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How TV Exec Simmy Kustanowitz Turned Impractical Experience into Creative Problem Solving01 Dec 202500:33:31

Simmy Kustanowitz spent the bulk of his career working in television production. From the moment he took a job as an intern for "The Daily Show," he fell in love with the industry. After college, he climbed the ranks. His first job as an NBC page gave way to a gig as a production assistant for MTV, where he worked on a variety of shows. That's where he was given his first opportunity to produce TV shows.

With all that experience under his belt, Simmy eventually landed a role as an executive at the newly formed TruTV Network. That's where things really came together. Not long after he joined TruTV, Simmy became the network executive (or, the network suit) in charge of the rising comedy juggernaut "Impractical Jokers."

He oversaw that production for several years before leaving the network and jumping to the other side of the equation, working directly for the Jokers' production company. It didn't take long for Simmy to become the popular show's showrunner, the person who had overall creative authority and management responsibility for the show.

In spite of all that success, Simmy felt the need to find a lifeboat. As much fun as TV production was, there were signs that it might not be his long-term career path. He started searching for a career path that would make sense. As he shares in this inspiring episode, the result soon became Clock Tower Innovation, Simmy's creative consultancy for companies that don't have time for bloated processes or mediocre execution.

In this episode, Simmy shares details of his path that culminated in his running one of the most successful comedy shows ever to air on TV, how he made the difficult decision to leave TV behind, and what inspired him to draw on all his production experience to launch one of the most unique creative consultancies in the world.

To learn more about Simmy, you can find him on Substack (https://substack.com/@simmykustanowitz), YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5cTuZAeTy_xkQ18iPrGgSg) or Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/clocktowerinnovation/)

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His Second Act Began With A Double Espresso28 Oct 202500:23:23

If you like coffee, you're going to love Mike Ayar's second act.

Mike ran a highly successful software company for 24 years. With a niche focus, his organization served pest control companies, an industry Mike describes as "the absolute best service business in the world in terms of recurring revenue."

In 2002 a private equity company began pursuing the purchase of his company and in 2006 they made him a financial offer "he couldn't refuse." After the purchase, he continued to run the company but finally departed in 2009. Mike had "no idea" what he wanted to do next.

A few years earlier, Mike had developed an intense interest in speciality coffee and in particular coffee roasting. Surprisingly, he had never tasted coffee until he turned 45. Waiting for a flight, he entered an airport Starbucks and ordered a double espresso. He was hooked.

Mike took a range of courses and seminars from coffee experts around the country. In 2011, he launched Turnstile Coffee Roasters in Belmar, NJ. The company has grown into a thriving cafe which also offers online coffee sales and wholesale services to other coffee shops and area restaurants. It's a family affair with his nephew and two daughters actively engaged in the company.

Click here to learn more about Turnstile Coffee Roasters and their seventeen different blends of coffee from Costa Rica, Brazil, Guatamala, Ethiopia, Columbia, Nicarauga, Peru and Indonesia.

 

Lights, Camera, Education: C. Scott Votaw Shifts from Making Movies to Molding Minds10 Mar 202500:29:12

C. Scott Votaw is the Assistant Vice Chancellor of the University System of Georgia, where he is responsible for overseeing the Georgia Film Academy.

After growing up in Georgia and graduating from college, Scott packed his car and headed west without a plan. With no relevant experience in film and production, he eventually networked his way onto a crew as a runner. Just by being present and paying attention, he found a way to save the production money and was rewarded with an almost immediate promotion to second assistant director.

That auspicious start launched him into what would become an incredibly successful 25-year career in the film and production industry. His big break, a job working for Saban Entertainment on its new and wildly popular Power Rangers television show, set him on a course to work with Hollywood legends including George Lucas and Star Wars sound designer Ben Burtt.

Then came his moment of reckoning. After building a career that was largely unplanned, Scott returned home to Georgia to care for a relative and try something new. He eventually networked his way into opportunities in education, but the timing was serendipitous as Georgia was in the process of building the infrastructure to support the growing film industry in the state. Thanks to Scott's experience in both education and production, and his availability and willingness to take on something new, he found himself in a position to help launch and run the Georgia Film Academy.

In this episode, Scott shares his unplanned journey through the film industry, his tough decision to leave it behind and move back home to Georgia, and the incredible timing that set him on a course to transition from an industry insider to an educator at the highest level.

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Lifequakes & Life Transitions: 27 Minutes With Author Bruce Feiler28 Sep 202000:27:04

Bruce Feiler is the author of seven New York Times bestsellers (including Walking The Bible, The Secrets of Happy Families and Abraham), the presenter of two prime-time series on PBS and the inspiration for the NBC drama series "Council of Dads." He's also presented two TED Talks viewed by more than two million people. It's an honor to have him on Second Act Stories.

We sat down in the backyard of Bruce's townhouse in Brooklyn for a socially-distant interview focused on his latest book Life Is In The Transitions: Mastering Change At Any Age. It is a highly-relevant book for anyone exploring a second act and we've happily added it to our "Best Books About Second Acts" resource page.

For more on Bruce and his work, here's a link to his website.

After A 50-Year Hiatus, A Return To The Courtroom12 Sep 202000:18:11

Kiku Mehta was born in 1937 and grew up in the Gujarat Province on India. He was trained as a lawyer there but emigrated to the United States in 1964.

When he arrived here in the US, he set aside his work as a lawyer and went to work as a social worker for Children's Services Inc. in Philadelphia. It paid the bills and helped him and his wife Kira put their three daughters through college.

He stayed with Children's Services for 51 years. But when the organization shut down in 2017, Kiku was out of a job.

With the help of his youngest daughter and a family friend – both lawyers – Kiku want back to school to complete 41 continuing education credits and pursue the reinstatement of his law license. And today at the age of 83, he now practices immigration law in Philadelphia at the law offices of Stanley J. Ellenberg.

Kiku Mehta's advice to others considering a second act: "Do it to help people. My background as a social worker helped me to do it that way. So, money is the last thing on my mind. I joined the law profession to help people."

We learned about Kiku's story from a terrific article, "He Returned To The Courtroom At 82 For A Second Act As A Lawyer" in the Philadelphia Inquirer. Special thanks to Mari Schaefer for her excellent reporting.

A Revolutionary Change: How A Financial Planner Became Benjamin Franklin30 Aug 202000:21:49

We first read about Terry Kutz in a terrific article in The Wall Street Journal. Terry had a long career as a financial planner in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. But as a hobby he had become involved in revolutionary war reenactments with a group called the Northwest Territory Alliance (NWTA). And one day an organizer asked him if he'd be willing to play the role of Benjamin Franklin at an event they were putting on.

In retirement, his work interpreting Ben Franklin has become a part-time occupation (or what his wife now calls a full-time obsession). He's participated in dozens of historical re-enactments and events as a historical interpreter. When we met him at his home in New Berlin, Wisconsin, he came in full historical costume and wearing bifocals – which of course were invented by Ben Franklin. Click here for more on Terry and his work as a historical interpreter.

The bulk of today's episode focuses on Terry and his second act. But we'll start by going back to 1776 for an interview with one of America's founding fathers.

Out of Africa: An Executive Recruiter Launches "American Rhino" Clothing15 Aug 202000:22:28

Chris Welles was a 46-year-old executive recruiter in Boston, Massachusetts. He was happy in his job and he had no plans for a change. But in 2008 he took a summer vacation with his wife, four kids and two other families to Kenya. And the trip completely changed his life.

Today he manages "American Rhino," a growing clothing brand with a retail and online presence. The company sells shirts, pants, sneakers, canvas bags and now face masks. All of the manufacturing takes place in Africa. And 10% of our every purchase goes directly to supporting wildlife and land conservation in Kenya.

The products that American Rhino produces are truly outstanding. Kikoy is a wonderful breathable fabric that has the feel and look of linen. Please visit www.AmericanRhino.com and check the shirts, shorts, canvas bags, sneakers and more. And remember 10% of every purchase goes back to Kenya to support wildlife conservation.

Conversation With A Contact Tracer: A Look At America's Fastest Growing Job03 Aug 202000:20:22

We depart from our traditional format with this episode to offer a glimpse inside the world of contact tracing. This is the fastest growing job in America, with the need for an estimated 200,000 contact tracers to track infections and protect the U.S. population against the advance of the COVID-19 virus. For those in our audience who may now be unemployed or simply looking for a new challenge, we thought it would be interesting to learn how the job works and the qualities needed to excel in this role.

We connected with Daniel Okpare, a 30-year-old masters student in New York University's School of Global Public Health. In addition to getting an advanced degree, he is on the front lines of the COVID-19 crisis, working for New York City's Health and Hospitals Program. He was previously profiled in The New York Times.

One point of clarification...many of the contact tracer positions focus on connecting with individuals infected by the virus by telephone. Daniel's job is that of a "community engagement specialist." He goes out into the community to meet with individuals that can't be reached via the telephone. He typically conducts 4-6, face-to-face interviews per day. Interviews take place in the doorway of the infected individual's home and run for 20-30 minutes.

We regularly celebrate the doctors, nurses, physicians assistants and paramedics helping to combat the COVID-19 crisis. It's to add "contact tracers" like Daniel Okpare to this list of healthcare heroes.

Everybody Loves A Second Act ... 24 Minutes With Actress Patricia Heaton21 Jul 202000:24:38

Patricia Heaton starred in two wildly successful television series: Everybody Loves Raymond and The Middle.

But it was the not-so-successful series Carol's Second Act that led Patricia (or Patty she likes to be called) to author a new book called "Your Second Act." It shares her own story and her new work serving as an Ambassador for the non-profit organization World Vision. The book also details the "Second Act Stories" of 14 other, courageous individuals navigating major, life transitions. It's an inspiring read for anyone exploring a new path.

We normally conduct all of our podcast interviews face-to-face. But with travel challenges brought on by the COVID-19 crisis and the opportunity  to interview a three-time Emmy award winner, we made an exception for the chance to speak with Patricia Heaton via telephone.

Her new book, "Your Second Act," is on our "Best Books about Second Acts" list.

Humor Me: A Speech Pathologist Finds A New Voice13 Jul 202000:21:20

Susan Goldfein is 79 years old, in great shape and splits her time between Florida and Connecticut. For most of her professional career, she served as a speech pathologist in a range of different settings. She worked with elementary school students, provided home care for stroke patients and she taught at the university level.

Her last position was with the Alzheimers Association in New York City. But in 2008, the organization faced major funding challenges and had to reduce their staff. So at the age of 68, Susan was out of a job and completely lost in terms of what to do.

After some early struggles, she took an eight-week course in short story writing at a community center. And in the footsteps of Nora Ephron and Erma Bombeck, she found her voice as a successful humorist. She pens a blog called "Unfiltered Wit," has written two books and her stories are syndicated in eight different newspapers across the country. You can check out her writing on her website.

Concerned about COVID-19, we sat down outside in two folding chairs in a Westport, Connecticut dog park – yes a dog park – for an interview. So enjoy the conversation and a few extra background noises too.

With Socks, Snacks & Shampoo, Kevin Forms The Blessing Bag Brigade29 Jun 202000:16:45

Kevin Garrison worked the overnight shift for Amtrak helping to keep the trains running in an out of New York City. And in 2016, he was looking for a charitable Christmas project. An online post about a blessing bag – a plastic bag filled with everyday hygiene and food products caught his eye. It proved to be the start of the Blessing Bag Brigade – a non-profit that has delivered 65,000 blessing bags to those in need.

But in 2016, he was looking for a small charitable project to celebrate Christmas. On his computer, he saw a posting about a "blessing bag" – a small plastic bag filled with everyday hygiene and food products that could be distributed to those in need. With the help of his friends, he put together 200 blessing bags. After then after work, he walked around Penn Station and distributed the bags to homeless men and women. He did this for about two weeks.

Four years later Kevin has formed the Blessing Bag Brigade – a non-profit in New Jersey that has distributed over 65,000 blessing bags to the less fortunate. And last year, with the support of his fiancé, he retired from Amtrak and now manages this non-profit on a full time basis. And he couldn't be happier.

Click here to learn more about Kevin Garrison and the Blessing Bag Brigade.

At 75, Marty Herman Writes The First Of 5 Mystery Novels08 Jun 202000:20:17

If you've ever dreamed of writing the Great American Novel, this episode is for you.

For most of his professional career, Marty Herman was a business turnaround specialist. He would come into troubled companies, figure out what was wrong and implement a solution. And then he'd move on to the next company.

But he always had a love of writing – he even sold a couple of short stories in his life. So at the age of 75, and with the help and encouragement of his youngest daughter Aimee, he published his first mystery novel called "The Jefferson Files." Since then he's published four other mystery novels, a book of short stories and a biography of a local jazz musician.

Marty loves writing. But he also loves selling his books. Before the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, he attended 200+ book and craft fairs each year and estimates that he's sold 15,000-18,000 of his books in this manner.

Click here to learn more about his work and purchase one of his books. I read his latest mystery, "The First Tuesday Of The Month Murder Files," and it is terrific.

Legally Blonde Redux: From Lawyer To Burlesque Dancer22 May 202000:18:28

Over the course of the past two years, we've interviewed quite a few lawyers. Mark Salvacion was a corporate lawyer who found a more fulfilling life as a Methodist minister. Richard Turner was a trial attorney who found a path to becoming a very successful nature photographer. Michael Lowe left the law to start a Washington, DC gin distillery with his son-in-law. And Amy Yontef-McGrath was a former lawyer who experimented with 50 public service projects in celebration of her 50th birthday.

But nothing could have prepared us for Lora Cheadle's story. She went from practicing law in the insurance industry to burlesque dancing. We're not making this up. Actually that's only a piece of what she does. Lora is also as an author, a hypnotherapist, a podcast host and her favorite term self-coined term: a life choreographer. But burlesque is a big part of her second act story.

Click here to learn more about Lora Cheadle, her new book "Flaunt: Drop Your Cover and Reveal Your Smart, Sexy and Spiritual Self," her blog and her podcast.

 

Mad Men 2.0: Advertising Veteran Helps Launch "Geezer," New Agency For 50+ Market17 Feb 202500:20:35

Brent Rivard had a long, successful career in advertising, working for major ad agencies in New York and Toronto. But as he entered his 50s, Brent faced an industry that is focused on youth in both it's work and it's staffing. The average age of an individual working in advertising is just 29 years old.

Teamed with two advertising executives also in their early 50s, he is in the process of building a groundbreaking agency called "Geezer." The new company is different from traditional agencies in two major ways:

  • Geezer is focused on serving the 50+ market (the most lucrative segment of the population);
  • The agency is staffed by seasoned veterans – all with 25+ years of experience in the advertising profession.

According to Brent, "Ageism is a big problem in the advertising agency world and we need to do something about it."

Click here to learn more about Geezer and their unique approach to advertising.

Two Friends Ditch The Corporate Job Search; Launch "Second Act Women"10 May 202000:19:43

Barbara Brooks and Guadalupe Hirt are two, talented women based in Denver, Colorado. Both have entrepreneurial backgrounds but had the same plan as they approached their 50s: Get a stable, corporate job...Enjoy solid health benefits....And put away some retirement funds. But like many older workers they hit a brick wall called ageism.

After dozens of resume submissions and almost no interviews, they took a different direction. Barbara and Guadalupe formed an organization called Second Act Women. Not surprisingly, we love the name of their organization that helps women in their 40s, 50s and above navigate the latter stage of their professional lives. At the center of the group is an amazing event called "Biz Life Con" an active online community on Facebook. After a successful start in Denver, they are now in the early stages of taking their approach to other cities in the USA.

Click here to learn more about Second Act Women.

Mary Lost Her Father At 14: Today She Helps Kids Overcome Grief22 Apr 202000:18:53

Mary Robinson was just 14 when she lost her father. Throughout high school, college and her 20s, that grief stayed bottled up inside her. A therapist helped her get her life together by helping her share her story.

She landed a corporate job with Prudential Financial working in their information technology department and eventually running the company's volunteer programs. But after fourteen years, she concluded she was a "fish out of water" in Corporate America.

Mary kept a small sign on her bedroom mirror that said "Leap And The Net Will Appear." One day she marched into her boss' office with a resignation letter and announced her decision to leave Prudential. She had no idea what she was going to do. But "The Net" did eventually appear in her decision to launch "Imagine: A Center For Coping With Loss." Imagine is a free year-round grief support center for children ages 3 to 18, and young adults 18 to 30, and their parents, who have had a parent, brother, sister or other close family member die.

Mary was honored as a CNN Hero in 2019. "It was just so exciting, because it allowed us to shine a global spotlight on this issue of children's grief. One of the things that all of us who work in this field say is that our vision is that someday no child grieves alone. And I feel like with this recognition from CNN, that that is actually possible now in my lifetime."

We're honored to profile her on the Second Act Stories podcast.

For more information about Imagine: A Center For Coping With Loss, click here.

Life After COVID-19...Is It Time For My Second Act?05 Apr 202000:26:08

Expert estimates predict the U.S. unemployment rate could rise from anywhere from 10% - 32% in 2020. Whatever the final number, that represents millions of individuals who will be unexpectedly looking for work. As Americans struggle to find new positions, it may be the right time to ask "Is It Time For My Second Act?"

For perspective on this challenge as the world wrestles with the COVID-19 Crisis, we turned to two of the nation's most respected experts on the topic of career and workplace issues: Kerry Hannon and Marci Alboher.

Kerry Hannon has written 12 books in the area of career transitions and personal finance as well as literally hundreds of articles for The New York Times, Forbes, Money, USA Today, US News and World Report and AARP. Her latest book, Great Pajama Jobs: How To Land A Job Without The Commute, will be released in July 2020.

Marci Alboher is a Vice President at Encore.org, author of The Encore Career Handbook: How to Make a Living and a Difference in the Second Half of Life and former New York Times workplace columnist. You can also check out Marci's free "Encore Careers" course on LinkedIn.

You can follow Kerry and Marci on Twitter (@kerryhannon and @heymarci).

Telephone Repairman Follows His Dream: Designing Women's Shoes28 Mar 202000:23:14

Since his junior year in high school, Chris Donovan has been sketching women's shoes. It's been his quiet obsession for the past 30+ years.

At the age of 50, he was diagnosed with prostate cancer. And he knew it was time to leave his safe job at the phone company to pursue his lifelong dream. "I need to follow this. I need to find out why I have this passion for shoes."

Based on the recommendation of European shoe designer Aki Choklat, he was accepted to Polimoda, one of the best fashion design institutes in the world. He enrolled in an accelerated masters program and packed his bags for Florence, Italy. And while his first few months were difficult, he ended up graduating at the top of his class.

Since our initial interview with Chris in October 2018, he has figured out how to turn his amazing designs into an actual product. Take it from Tim Gunn of Project Runway: "It's like nothing you've ever seen before."

For more examples of Chris' amazing designs, visit www.ChrisDonovanFootwear.com.

At 63, He Joined The Peace Corps And Moved To Moldova18 Mar 202000:19:58

The majority of Peace Corps volunteers are idealistic, recent college graduates looking to make a difference in the world. But David Jarmul and his wife Champa are different. They joined the Peace Corps together in May 2016. Both were 63 years old.

David had been serving as the Associate Vice President of News and Communications for Duke University for 14 years. Champa was employed as a sonographer/ultrasound technician. For David, it was his second tour of service. Thirty-seven years earlier he had served as a Peace Corps teacher in Nepal.

He describes their experience working for two years in Moldova in a wonderful new book called "Not Exactly Retired. A Life Changing Journey On The Road and In The Peace Corps."

California Dreaming: A 3,000 Mile Journey Starts One Family's Second Act01 Mar 202000:21:27

Kathy and Gary Friedle and their two boys lived in New York City. Both had high-powered jobs – Kathy as an architect and Gary as an asset manager in a financial management firm. They worked long hours and increasingly felt they were on a treadmill that kept moving faster and faster. They dreamed of one day retiring and opening up a bed and breakfast.

But rather than waiting until their sixties they decided to make a move at 45. They talked with their two boys who were willing to relocate to California. And rather than opening up a bed and breakfast in New England, they bought a 16 room hotel in Palm Springs, California that was a working nudist resort at the time. They said goodbye to the nudists and brought the hotel back to its original name of the Monkey Tree Hotel.

 

After 25 Years, An NBA Referee Finds A New Calling16 Feb 202000:17:32

Steve Javie worked as an NBA referee for 25 years. He officiated nearly 1,500 games including 20 NBA finals. He was widely regarded as one of the best referees in the league.

But in his 24th year in the league, his knee started to give out. He returned for one final season – his 25th year -- but  that was it.

Steve is a religious man and after his basketball career, he asked God to help guide him. And that led him to the St. Charles Seminary and seven years of study to become a Catholic deacon. He was ordained in June, 2019.

An Extra Cheesy Second Act: Paulie Follows A Love Affair With Pizza04 Feb 202000:15:55

Paul Giannone (known to all as "Paulie Gee") grew up in Brooklyn, NY but moved to New Jersey as an adult. For most of his professional career he worked with AT&T and their subsidiaries as an information technology staffer and eventually a consultant. And candidly he never liked the work – he never felt he was very good at it either. But he needed to support his family so he stuck it out.

While he didn't love his work, he loved pizza -- absolutely loved everything about it. And at the age of 56, he took an incredible leap of faith – returning to Brooklyn and opening up Paulie Gees -- a pizza restaurant. He's been remarkably successful and "Paulie's Slice Shop" followed in Brooklyn as did Paulie Gees franchise restaurants in Chicago, Columbus and Baltimore.

Paulie secured 15 different investors that helped him launch the restaurant. But he also took out a home equity loan and put his own "skin in the game" to pursue his dream. It was a big risk but it has all worked out. As Paulie told us, "This is beyond my wildest dreams, I had no idea how happy I could be...I am doing what I was born to do, what I am wired to do."

*A slice of Paulie Gee's "HellBoy" pizza. All photos by Kenny Chung.

"I Want To Learn How To Weld"…Becoming An Artist at 4818 Jan 202000:17:55

Zammy Migdal arrived in the United States from Israel in his early 20s. He studied hospitality in college and built a career in Miami's hotel industry. And at a fairly young age he launched an art-deco, boutique hotel in South Beach called the Indian Creek Hotel. He operated it with great success for nearly two decades.

But the September 11th attack had a devastating impact on Miami's hotel industry. And the growth of the internet made it difficult for boutique hotels to compete. So at the age of 48, Zammy sold the hotel.

He had no idea what he wanted to do next. But he had always been interested in art and so he took a course in welding at a local art studio. And today he is a highly-successful artist focused on metal sculpture. His work is displayed around the world.

I sat down with Zammy in his home in Miami. He showed me his studio and a number of pieces that he has created. And we talked about his second act.

Best Of 2019 Episode: Goodbye Accounting...Hello Acting03 Jan 202000:19:13

As we start the new year, we're pleased to share the episode named by Second Act Stories listeners as the "Best of 2019."

Most of America already knows Kyle Merker. The Ancestry.com commercial where he "trades in his lederhosen for a kilt" has aired 22,000 times on broadcast television.

Kyle filmed the Ancestry commercial at the age of 53. And the experience sparked an old passion that encouraged him to pursue acting after 25+ years in the world of accounting and finance.

In just three short years, he's been remarkably successful being featured in range of other commercials, television programs, films and theater projects. But he took acting seriously enrolling in a two-year program at the Michael Warner Studio in New York City. And he prepares meticulously for each and every audition.

All Eyes on Justin Farmer: Veteran WSB-TV News Anchor Launches a Second Act in Public02 Feb 202500:44:00

Justin Farmer is one of the most recognizable people in Atlanta. He spent 17 years as the evening news anchor on WSB-TV, Atlanta's top-rated news station, and one of the biggest local market news stations in the country. News was a Farmer family business; Justin's father, Don Farmer, was an ABC news correspondent, a founding CNN anchor, and later the evening news anchor on WSB in Atlanta, a job he held until 1997. Ten years later, Justin landed the same job, at the same station.

But let's rewind: this all meant that Justin grew up with an inside track to history. While he graduated from Boston College with a degree in political science, his family legacy and several internships at WSB naturally led him to broadcasting. His first TV job was as a sportscaster in Albany, Georgia. But a life in TV news is nomadic, and Justin moved from market to market before eventually landing back home in Atlanta and working for WSB. In 2007, he finally landed at the anchor desk.

Everything was going well until the early 2020s, when in the span of 14 months, Justin lost both his biological parents and his beloved WSB co-anchor, Jovita Moore. This series of traumatic losses caused him to rethink what he wanted from life. He challenged himself to do something different, and his passion for investing and wealth management emerged as his new career goal.

It wasn't an easy path. Studying for the Series 65 - Uniform Investment Adviser Law Exam, is a full-time job itself, but Justin climbed that mountain around his very high-profile full-time job. He passed the first time he took it. Then, on November 26, 2024, he signed off from WSB-TV with three hilarious words and launched Exit Wealth, a private investment firm that works with ultra-high-net-worth individuals.

Our interview with Justin happened just weeks after he embarked on his second act. In this episode, Justin shares his history in TV news, some of the fun stories that are always part of live TV, his painful turning point, the thought process behind leaving what appears to be a "cushy" job, and the mountains he had to scale to make his second act a reality.

Learn more about Justin by Googling his name and learn more about Exit Wealth by visiting their website.

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Life's A Beach For Phil and Arthur: Two Lawyers Start AP Yoga22 Dec 201900:17:24

Arthur and Phil have been together for 20 years as a committed couple. Both had long careers as lawyers. Phil worked for 30 years as an in-house corporate lawyer for a large insurance company. Arthur concluded his legal career as the Dean of Students at New York University Law School.

They retired in their mid-50s and have followed a wide range of passions: art, music and travel. But at the top of the list is yoga instruction. They have created an amazing experience called AP Yoga. Yes, between Memorial Day to Labor Day, you'll find them on the beach in Asbury Park, NJ. Seven days a week they teach yoga seven-days-a-week to an enthusiastic group of regulars and tourists from 7:45 to 8:45 am.

During the winter months, they teach yoga on Saturday mornings in their local community center in nearby Interlaken, NJ. And that's where Second Act Stories had a chance to catch up with them and their students.

Special thanks to my friend Jodi Heinz who is a regular at AP Yoga and suggested this episode.

 

At 65, Descendant Of Georgetown Slaves Finds Second Act On Campus08 Dec 201900:22:04

Today's story goes back 181 years to 1838. That's when 272 men, women, and children were sold by an order of Jesuit priests and the proceeds of the sale was used to pay the debts of Georgetown College, now Georgetown University. The slaves had lived on plantations belonging to the Jesuits in Maryland. They were put on a boat and moved to their new owners in Louisiana.

Melisande Short-Columbe is a descendant of this group known as the GU-272. Two-and-a-half years ago she left her work as a chef in New Orleans and entered Georgetown University as a freshman. She was 63 years old.

She is now in her junior year at Georgetown. I visited her in Washington where she was house-sitting for one of her professors. She made me a cup of tea and we sat down for a candid discussion about her great, great, great grandparents Mary Ellen Queen and Abraham Mahoney and about becoming a full-time college student in her 60s.

Of All The Gin Joints In Washington: Retired Lawyer & Son-In-Law Launch Distillery20 Nov 201900:19:17

Michael Lowe was a corporate lawyer in Washington DC. When he left Verizon's legal department at the age of 59, he started doing yoga five days a week and reading like a fiend. But his wife was still working. And he was getting bored puttering around the house.

So what did he do? Michael launched Washington's first distillery in 100 years and started making "Green Hat Gin" with his son-in-law John Uselton.

Their success is very different than the traditional model of a family business started by a first generation and then grown by subsequent generations. Michael and John started the business together. Michael brought the regulatory experience and a large amount of the capital. John brought sales experience, a network of contacts from his years in Washington's alcohol and restaurant industry and the energy of someone in the early stages of a new career.

It's proven to be a powerful partnership. And out of that partnership came a great product. So if you find yourself in Washington one weekend, I suggest you stop in to their tasting room, say hi and sample a cocktail with Green Hat Gin.

 

Prescription for Change: From Pharmacist To Flight Attendant06 Nov 201900:19:22

Venetia Clark loved her job as a Walgreens' pharmacist for 30 years.

But as she approached 55 years of age, she had the opportunity to take advantage of an early retirement program with some significant financial benefits. And she also spent quality time with her 91-year-old father who was in the final year of his life. It caused her to conclude it was time for a change. A love of travel and the encouragement of two flight attendant friends led her to a new job opportunity.

She has been flying for the past five years and loving the new job with United Airlines.

Ready For A Career Pivot? Expert Interview With Marc Miller18 Oct 201900:23:54

Marc Miller has changed career paths a total of seven times. But after suffering a near fatal bike accident, he switched gears – no pun intended – and focused his talents on counseling friends and associates on their career journeys. And he realized that he had found his true calling.

From there, he wrote a powerful book called "Repurpose Your Career" that is now in its third edition…He launched the "Repurpose Your Career" podcast which now has nearly 150 episodes. And he started the "Career Pivot" online community.

We caught up with Marc at the Princeton Public Library where he was speaking on the topic of ageism.

 

A Passage To India: Her Second Act Started With A Trip07 Oct 201900:20:33

Shila Desai's life has an intriguing and international timeline. She is of Indian descent – with her grandparents coming from the country's Gujarat province. But she was born in Kenya and grew up there. She got her professional degree in the United Kingdom. And at the age of 24, Shila relocated to Canada where she spent most of her adult life.

She arrived in Canada and didn't know a soul. She met her future husband in the first few weeks in Toronto, they married and started a family. And they bought a bankrupt garment manufacturing company and turned it into a home run success.

On the outside it looked like a wonderful life. But Shila struggled with depression and thirsted for something that she could call her own. At the request of her writer's group, she put together a tour that brought nineteen of her friends to India. The experience was such a success she turned it into a travel company called Eat Your Heart Out Tours (or EYHO Tours for short).

As you'll hear in the podcast, EYHO Tours has developed a particular expertise in textile tours essentially bringing visitors and textile artisans in India, Morocco, Madagascar and Uzbekistan together. You can learn more about Shila's company at www.eyhotours.com.

 

A Dream Deferred: How A Banquet Waitress Became A Doctor At 4523 Sep 201900:23:51

Ruth Lavigne grew up in Cincinnati, Ohio. Her father was a doctor (a radiologist) and she used to fill-in the date on patient sheets when her dad reviewed their films at home. As Ruth followed her father around his hospital, she always thought "that will be me someday."

She ended up studying French in college and then business in graduate school. After marrying, starting a family and relocating to California, she found herself working as a banquet waitress in a San Diego hotel. She enjoyed the work and the flexible schedule which gave her time with two kids.

Ruth's dream of becoming a doctor re-emerged one night as she held her oldest daughter Ariel in her arms and told her "you can be anything you want when you grow up." And Ruth thought, "one day this kid is gonna look back up at me say, so you wanted to be a waitress all your life?"

With financial help from her parents and childcare support from her in-laws, she went back to school at 31 to take the necessary pre-med coursework. At 36, she returned home and entered medical school at the University of Cincinnati. At 40 she began a four-year residency to become a radiation oncologist. And at 45-years-of age, she finally became Dr. Ruth Lavigne.

Ruth's story of persistence and overcoming obstacles is as inspirational as they come.

 

At 70, Jim Found A New Passion: Helping Others Get Fit06 Sep 201900:19:45

Jim Owen is 78 years old and he is in awesome shape. He works out regularly and part of his routine is doing three sets of 50 push-ups. That's pretty amazing for a man of his age.

But for most of his life he was a self-described, "certified couch potato." On his 70th birthday, his life changed when he watched a video of himself going on stage to give a speech. "My shoulders were hunched over. My knees were shot, so I was sort of shuffling along. And I had chronic back problems. It was humiliating."

Jim lost 50 pounds, hired an experienced trainer and got serious about working out. And the impact on his life has been incredible.

He wanted to share his new passion with others so he wrote and published a book called "Just Move: A New Approach to Fitness After 50." For anyone who has ever said late in life, "Gee, I wish I could get in shape," this book is for you.

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Encore! Encore! Leaving Wall Street For The Non-Profit Sector26 Aug 201900:19:26

Russell Abbott spent most of his career on Wall Street working in the management of hedge funds. About two years ago, he transitioned to working for a non-profit based in Brooklyn, New York called Extreme Kids and Crew. The organization is a community center where children with disabilities and their families can socialize, create and play. He's a whole lot happier in the new job.

Russell was first introduced to Extreme Kids and Crew via the Encore Fellowship Program. Run by a group called Encore.org, it's essentially a matchmaking service that connects senior corporate executives with non-profit organizations looking for experienced talent. The program is now in it's tenth year and has placed over 2,000 executives in positions in 50+ cities across the United States.

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Ready to Start A Business After 50? Expert Advice from Kerry Hannon08 Aug 201900:24:42

Kerry Hannon is an absolute rock star in the world of career transitions and personal finance. She has written 12 books in this area as well as literally hundreds of articles for The New York Times, Forbes, Money, USA Today, US News and World Report and AARP. She is a sought- after speaker and expert who has appeared on everything from ABC News to NPR to The Dr. Phil Show.

Her latest book is "Never Too Old To Get Rich: The Entrepreneur's Guide To Starting A Business Mid-Life." We caught up with Kerry before a book signing in New York City for her perspective on the emerging trend of late-in-life entrepreneurs. It's a fast-paced discussion littered with nuggets of Kerry's wisdom from years studying second acts.

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For more about Kerry and her work, here's a link to her website.

Special thanks to Encore.org's Marci Alboher for connecting me with Kerry.

Sparking Climate Conversations Across the USA: Kathleen Biggins' Second Act21 Jan 202500:21:44

Kathleen Biggins is a prime example of an ordinary person doing extraordinary things.

The genesis of Kathleen's second act began in 2006 when she was asked to attend the Garden Club of America's National Legislative Conference in Washington on behalf of her local garden club. That's where her education about climate change began and ultimately led to the formation of C-Change Conversations. The organization is dedicated to helping people across the political spectrum understand the science behind climate change.

Kathleen and her colleagues have made presentations to 21,000+ individuals across 33 states. To learn more about C-Change Conversations, you can visit their website at www.c-changeconversations.org.

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Goodbye Accounting...Hello Acting: Meet Ancestry's "Lederhosen Guy"29 Jul 201900:18:01

 

Most of America already knows Kyle Merker. The Ancestry.com commercial where he "trades in his lederhosen for a kilt" has aired 22,000 times on broadcast television.

Kyle filmed the Ancestry commercial at the age of 53. And the experience sparked an old passion that encouraged him to pursue acting after 25+ years in the world of accounting and finance.

In just three short years, he's been remarkably successful being featured in range of other commercials, television programs, films and theater projects. But he took acting seriously enrolling in a two-year program at the Michael Warner Studio in New York City. And he prepares meticulously for each and every audition.

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Special thanks to friend and neighbor Sue Check for connecting me with Kyle Merker.

 

A Reluctant-Preneur: Laid Off at 51, Jane Launches Grownup Travels18 Jul 201900:17:26

Jane Canapini was a 20-year-veteran of the advertising world in Toronto, Canada. She worked as a creative director for both large and small advertising agencies. But in 2012, her last agency downsized and she was laid off at the age of 51.

Rather than landing another job in advertising, she decided it was time to make a major career change. She pursued her life-long passion by launching a travel blog called Grownup Travels.    

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Pittsburgh's Next Act: A Region Prepares For The Next 75 Years25 Jun 201900:21:42

Today's episode is different. Rather than focusing on an individual's "second act," we're going to look at a region of the United States that has emerged as the leading example of a "second act" or "turnaround" community. I'm talking about Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

I traveled to Pittsburgh at the invitation of the Allegheny Conference on Community Development, a group that has been focused on advancing the region's future over the past 75 years. In fact, this podcast will debut later this month at an event in Pittsburgh called "Our Next 75 Summit."

During my visit, I had the chance to sit down with more than a dozen leaders from the area. We talked about the past and difficult challenges the region has faced. But mostly we talked about the future of Pittsburgh and southwestern Pennsylvania – essentially what I'm calling the Pittsburgh's next act.

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THEN: Homeless, Addicted & Convicted...NOW: Time's "100 Most Influential People"08 Jun 201900:22:02

For the past 15 years, Time magazine has selected it's list of the "100 Most Influential People in the World." The 2019 issue includes Lady Gaga, Donald Trump, Michelle Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Mark Zuckerberg and Dwayne Johnson.

It also includes Desmond Meade, a name you've probably never heard before. In 2005, Desmond Meade had three strikes against him. He was homeless. He was a drug addict. And he was a convicted felon. Reaching the lowest point in his life, he was prepared to commit suicide by jumping in front of a moving train. But according to Meade, the train "never came that day." And he opted to check himself into a rehabilitation facility instead.

He set a new path for himself earning an associates, bachelors and law degree. And then Desmond set his sights on the passage of Florida's Amendment 4. Officially known as the Voting Rights Restoration for Felons Initiative, Amendment 4 was a ballot initiative to restore the voting rights of an estimated 1.5 million Floridians with felony convictions. Political pundits gave the initiative very little chance of ever getting on the ballot let alone passing with the required 60% approval by the electorate.

It took Desmond and his team at the Florida Rights Restoration Coalition nearly a decade. But on November 6, 2018, Amendment 4 passed with 65% of the vote.

According to Meade, "I tell people that on November 6th, on election night, the country got to see love winning the day. We had over 5.1 million votes, a million more than any candidate received. And those votes weren't based on hate and fear, they were based on love, forgiveness, and redemption. Love actually won the day. Love destroyed that Jim Crow law."

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Click here to read the Time magazine article about Desmond Meade, penned by Stacey Abrams, former Democratic Minority Leader for the Georgia House of Representatives.

Never Too Old To Rock N' Roll: Meet Tom "The Suit" Forst29 May 201900:20:02

Tom
Forst was 57 years old. He was a regional vice president with Cox Media, a huge
communications company. He was jetting around the country on private planes. He
had an army of people reporting to him. He was making a hefty salary.

That was 10 years ago. He decided to quit his corporate gig to pursue a life-long passion – music. He put out his first blues-rock album as Tom "The Suit" Forst. He did a month long tour of China as the headlining act. And now he's back in the studio now working on his next album. You can check out his music at www.TomTheSuitForst.com.

He also launched the "Chasing The Blues" podcast which is well worth a listen. As the Jethro Tull song concludes, "You're never too old to rock n' roll." 

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The Proximity Principle: Ken Coleman's Formula for Second Act Success13 May 201900:25:05

Ken Coleman is a highly-successful ,broadcast personality and career coach who hosts a daily radio show, aptly called "The Ken Coleman Show." Every day, he counsels thousands of listeners on how to best find their dream job. He also hosts the highly-successful EntreLeadership podcast which consistently ranks among the top five business podcasts on the iTunes charts.

Ken is a genuine "Second Act" success story himself. At the age of 34, Ken started to pursue a broadcast career despite zero background and training in the profession.

Nine years later, he has written a book that draws heavily on that personal experience as well as literally hundreds of telephone calls with his listeners. It's titled "The Proximity Principle" and it is a strong guide for anyone exploring a second act. The simple formula described by him in his book and this episode:

The Right People + The Right Places = Opportunities

Special thanks to McKenzie Masters and Madison Crowder for the assistance in facilitating this interview. It was an honor to meet and interview Ken Coleman.

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A Midlife Shake-up: Stay-At-Home Mom Pursues A Year Of Public Service08 May 201900:20:39

This episode is a bit different (and we love "different" here at Second Act Stories). Today, we'll introduce you to Amy Yontef-McGrath. She lives in Montgomery County, Maryland and is the proud mother of three.

Amy found herself in a bit of a funk as she approached her 49th birthday. She loved her job as a stay-at-home mom. But as her children were getting older and starting to leave the nest, it was clear that she needed something new. As she put it, I needed to "shake-up my life."

In a stroke of creative genius, she came up with "Follow Me To Fifty," a year-long journey to complete 50 public service projects in advance of her 50th birthday. Amy joined a group of volunteers in kayaks to clean-up the Anacostia River. She helped a refugee family settle into their new home. She did a monthly-long stint as a food coordinator at the local food bank. She placed American flags on the graves of war veterans on Veterans Day. And along the way, she documented each of these projects in her "Follow Me To Fifty" blog.

Amy's choice for the 50th project? She took a fifty mile walk along the Pacific Coast Highway in California. "I wanted to go somewhere I'd never gone before. Exploring new things was the theme of the whole year and I wanted the same for the walk."

Amy Yontef-McGrath giving her "Volunteer of the Year" acceptance speech at Montgomery Serves Annual Awards Ceremony.

Last month Amy was selected as "Volunteer of the Year" by the Montgomery County Volunteer Center. In her acceptance speech, she asked the crowd to "Please keep following me. I'm not done yet."

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No Kid Sleeps On The Floor In Our Town: A Christmas Project Sparks A Second Act24 Apr 201900:22:10

I first learned about Luke Mickelson and Sleep in Heavenly Peace, a non-profit that he founded in 2012, via the CNN Heroes Program. I immediately thought to myself "I have to interview this man." Then I found out he lives in Twin Falls, Idaho – a mere 2,369 miles from my home in New Jersey.

But as luck would have it, I was traveling to Salt Lake City for a business conference. So I rented a car and drove three hours across Idaho's wide open spaces to the national headquarters of Sleep in Heavenly Peace.

So what is Sleep in Heavenly Peace? It's an amazing non-profit with 150 chapters across the United States. In 2018, they built 4,144 bunk beds for children whose families can't afford a bed for them. In 2019, they expect to build over 10,000 beds.  

On the wall behind Luke Mickelson's desk, is a framed photo of the 2012 Facebook post that helped launch Sleep in Heavenly Peace.

Those might seem like a lot of beds but here's a scary number. Sleep in Heavenly Peace estimates that 1.5 to 2.0 million kids in America sleep on the floor each night.

Here's the story of how Luke and his wife Heidi founded "Sleep in Heavenly Peace." Included in their journey was a decision for Luke to quit his full-time job in order to focus on the organization's rapid growth.  

Luke and Heidi Mickelson stand in front of the map of Sleep In Heavenly Peace's 150+ chapters across the United States.

Click here to learn more about and/or donate to Sleep in Heavenly Peace. It is an amazing organization doing amazing work across the United States (with plans to expand internationally in the year ahead).

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Ready To Live Forever? Surprising Advice From Marc Freedman10 Apr 201900:43:12

You don't have to freeze your body. No need for bionic limbs. And you can hold off on eating mountains of kale (thank goodness). If you want to live forever, then focus on building a legacy via meaningful work with younger generations.

Last month, I sat down for an hour with the man who is essentially the creator of the encore career movement. His name is Marc Freedman and he appropriately heads up an organization called Encore.org. Here's a quick summary of some of his accomplishments:

  • Marc is the winner of the 2018 Eisner Prize for Intergenerational Excellence;
  • He was named a "Legend in Mentoring" by Mentoring.org;
  • He was named an "Influencer in Aging" by PBS' Next Avenue; 
  • Marc is the author of five books including his latest work, "How To Live Forever: The Enduring Power of Connecting the Generations."

"How To Live Forever" gives dozens of fascinating examples of intergenerational experiences from across the United States and the globe. It lays out a road map for finding purpose and happiness later in life.

Marc introduces us to a range of engaging characters successfully connecting, mentoring and collaborating with younger generations. My favorite adage from Freedman's book: "The real fountain of youth is the fountain with youth."

I loved "How To Live Forever" and thoroughly enjoyed my conversation with Marc. Today's podcast is longer than our usual episodes but candidly the conversation was so rich in content it was just too good to cut down.

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A Culinary Instructor's Second Act Brings Fine Dining To A Soup Kitchen29 Mar 201900:17:23

Warren Schueller (on the left in the purple t-shirt) worked for 28 years as a chemistry teacher in Staten Island, New York.

But at the age of 57 he began working with a group called Careers Through Culinary Arts (CCAP) and transitioned to being a culinary instructor. He trained a wide range of schools including the French Culinary Institute (New York City), Culinary Institute of America, Johnson and Wales and the New York Restaurant School and helped prepare New York City high school students for culinary careers. He retired in 2012.

But you'll find him cooking every Tuesday at the St. Marks Center for Community Renewal in Keansburg, New Jersey. At this area "soup kitchen," Warren and his team are producing upscale meals for 60+ hungry, "down on their luck" individuals each week.

Warren will turn 74 years old next month. And he hopes to keep cooking at St. Mark's soup kitchen "forever."

Earlier this year the St. Mark's Center for Community Renewal embarked on a $50,000 campaign to renovate the kitchen. You can donate to the program by sending your check to Deacon Rose Broderick, St. Mark's Center for Community Renewal, 247 Carr Avenue, Keansburg, NJ 07734.

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This week's post has the added benefit of an accompanying video for the podcast by award-winning filmmaker Paul Kaplan.  

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Best of 2024: Leaving Real Estate To Hunt Pythons In The Everglades11 Jan 202500:27:42

Second Act Stories Annual "Best of" Episode give us an opportunity to re-share a remarkable story from the past year and welcome new listeners by offering a taste of what we do: profile courageous individuals pursuing a more rewarding life in a second act.

In the "Best of 2024" episode Scott interviews Amy Siewe, an amazing woman who left lucrative career as a real estate broker to hunt pythons in the Florida Everglades. Amy proudly shares that she's 5' 4", 120 lbs., and captures pythons as big as 180 lbs. by physically jumping on them and wrestling them into submission.

We hope you enjoy Amy's incredible profile and tune in for more Second Act Stories in 2025!!!

 

Finding New Life As A Hospice Chaplain23 Mar 201900:15:02

Today's episode focuses on someone I've known for a long time. Don Hessemer and I were part of a Saturday morning running group when I lived in Central New Jersey. He had a 38-year career as an environmental consultant in New York and New Jersey. But in 2018, Don decided it was time for a change.

So at
the age of 61, a time when many people are counting the days to retirement, Don
decided to switch careers and become a hospice chaplain. Everyday
he works with patients and their families as they approach the end of
life. 

When I read Don's announcement about this new position on Facebook, I remember thinking to myself, "What an awful and difficult job." But Don doesn't think of it awful or difficult. And in some ways, he doesn't even think of it as a job. It took him nearly 40 years but he feels that he has found his true calling.

Don's path to his work as a hospice chaplain began shortly after his ordination as a deacon in the Catholic Church. "One of the priests in our parish would frequent the Center for Hope Hospice in Scotch Plains right here in town. And he would say mass maybe once a month. And he kind of introduced me to the whole hospice world. I mean, I really knew nothing about hospice. Hospice was a place where people went to die."

Today, Don works 40 hours a week helping patients and families negotiate difficult, "end of life" challenges.

Don's role as a deacon allowed him to officiate at his daughter Brittany's wedding. He walked her down the aisle in a three-piece suit, made a "superman change" into his vestments in the sacristy and then conducted the ceremony.

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The Making Of A Modern Elder: Chip Conley Joins The Millennials At Airbnb09 Mar 201900:21:38

In the hospitality industry, Chip Conley is a legend. Back in 1987, he created Joie de Vivre, that grew to 52 hotels in California and set off a boutique hotel craze. But after 24 years of managing the company, he decided to retire and pursue other ventures. Writing. Speaking. He was on the board of the Burning Man Festival. He created a new website called Fest 300 which celebrated the best festivals in the world. He kept busy.

But then out of the blue, he was contacted by Brian Chesky, a 31-year-old CEO of a start-up company with a new concept called home-sharing.  The company was called Airbnb. And Brian said, "Come work with us and help me democratize hospitality."

Chip said "yes." So over the past six years, his second act has been a fascinating ride at Airbnb. And it led to Chip's latest book titled "Wisdom at Work: The Making of a Modern Elder."

So what exactly is a modern elder? According to Chip it is someone who can "marry an air of gravitas with a spirit of humility." In a business setting, that means serving as a sage counselor and learning like a wet-behind-the-ears intern at the same time.

In today's episode, we'll also meet Sarah Goodnow Berry, Airbnb's Global Director of Brand. She is one of the millennials running Airbnb and one of Chip's mentees. Below is a photo Sarah took of Chip delivering his "farewell address" to the entire Airbnb staff in 2016 and the emotional post which she uploaded to instagram.

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Click here for more information on the Modern Elder Academy. And click here to purchase "Wisdom At Work: The Making Of A Modern Elder."

Special thanks to Marci Alboher of Encore.org for connecting me with Chip Conley. It's good to have friends in high places.

Facing The Music: A DJ Side Hustle Turns Into A Full-Time Gig02 Mar 201900:18:07

After a twenty-year career in hospitality sales and management at Marriott, Amani Roberts decided to turn his weekend passion as a disc jockey playing music at clubs and special events into a full-time career.

Today, he has made it as a sought-after DJ, teacher of aspiring DJs, writer and podcast creator.   

A combination of dedication and education fueled his success over the past sevens years. He reports that he is working harder than ever but he's happier than ever too.

Amani and I met in a study room at the public library in Manhattan Beach, California.

Tell learn more about Amani Roberts, check out his website which includes The Amani Experience podcast.

Special thanks to Alex Petrarca, Booking Agent at Interview Connections, for suggesting Amani as a profile for Second Act Stories.

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