In this transformative episode, Lorna Davis—former CEO of Danone North America and trailblazer of the B Corp movement—invites us into a conversation about what it really means to lead, live, and grow through the lens of radical interdependence. From her upbringing in South Africa to her global career across seven countries and five continents, Lorna shares why she believes that heroism is outdated—and that meaningful change depends on our willingness to rely on one another. This isn’t just about leadership. It’s about building lives, organizations, and societies that thrive on trust, empathy, and purpose. TED Talk, A Guide to Collaborative Leadership: https://www.ted.com/speakers/lorna_davis Books: It's That Simple, Mavis Karn; Raising Hare, Chloe Dalton; Memorial Day, Geraldine Brooks; Consolations, David White; Eckhart Tolle’s work Please support the Rhino's at Care For Wild: https://careforwild.co.za/ Thank you to our Sponsors:Amelia Risk - ⁠https://ameliarisk.com/⁠ The Big Favorite - ⁠thebigfavorite.com⁠ get 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠⁠@thebigfavorite⁠⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠⁠@theplantiful⁠⁠ El’s IG: ⁠⁠@the_elturner

In this conversation, Eleanor and Isabelle sit down with Jeni Britton—entrepreneur, artist, and founder of the iconic Jeni’s Splendid Ice Cream and her new brand, Floura, which is the most diverse fiber bar on the market. Jeni shares her path from struggling art student to industry visionary, diving deep into the emotional and creative roots of her journey. From her early days running “Scream,” to building Jeni's into a national brand, to stepping away and starting over, this episode explores reinvention, curiosity, and the power of slowing down, synchronicity, and building businesses that reflect your soul. In This Episode, They Cover: Jeni’s unconventional childhood and how it shaped her boldness Why she dropped out of college and knew she’d be her own boss Creative burnout and knowing when to walk away Lessons learned through failure—not success Launching Floura and why she’s obsessed with fiber and food systems How motherhood fits into the founder experience Why she says Lord of the Rings is the best business book she's ever read And why “creativity is finding efficiencies”—a mindset every founder needs Resources Mentioned: Floura: https://www.floura.com/ Jeni’s substack: https://substack.com/@jenibritton Books Jeni likes: The Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman,The Apothecary's Wife by  Karen Bloom Gevirtz and The Mayflower by Nathaniel Philbrick Instagram: @jenibrittonbauer Thank you to our Sponsors:Amelia Risk - https://ameliarisk.com/ The Big Favorite - thebigfavorite.com get 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠@thebigfavorite⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠@theplantiful⁠ El’s IG: ⁠@the_elturner

Join us for an enlightening conversation with Zoe Paknad, the visionary founder of Goldune, as we delve into the world of sustainable retail. Discover Zoe's inspiring journey in creating a company that makes sustainability approachable and accessible. She shares the triumphs and challenges of her mission to transform consumer habits and offers insights into the future of eco-friendly products, and reveals what she’s up to today with First Rodeo and more! Zoe’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zoe-paknad Zoe’s substack First Rodeo: https://1strodeo.substack.com/ Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi ! Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite! The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you.  The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/ The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavorite Follow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Isabelle’s IG: @theplantiful El’s IG: @the_elturner

Welcome to episode 5 of the Say More Podcast. Today, we have a very special guest with us, Eva Goicochea. Eva is the brilliant mind behind Maude, a modern sexual wellness company that’s redefining intimacy and self-care. With a background in healthcare and brand strategy, Eva has been a trailblazer in creating products that prioritize simplicity, quality, and inclusivity. In this episode, we dive deep into Eva’s background, and what led her to ultimately start Maude. Maude website: https://getmaude.com/ Maude IG: https://www.instagram.com/getmaude/ Eva IG: https://www.instagram.com/evagoicochea/ Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi ! Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite! The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you.  The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/ The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavorite Follow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Isabelle’s IG: @theplantiful El’s IG: @the_elturner

Today, we have the pleasure of hosting David Fudge, a visionary entrepreneur and co-founder of Aplós, the trailblazing non-alcoholic spirit brand that's redefining social drinking. With a background as one of the first hires at Bonobos, David brings a wealth of experience in brand building and innovation to the table. At Aplós, he's on a mission to create sophisticated, mood-boosting beverages that offer the same social experience without the alcohol. Join us as we dive into David's journey, the challenges of launching a disruptive brand, and the lessons he's learned along the way. Aplos Website: https://www.aplos.world/ Aplos IG: https://www.instagram.com/aplos.world/ David IG:  https://www.instagram.com/davidfudge/ Famous Party in the USA music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ezfk7s1NyY Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi ! Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite! The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you.  The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/ The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavorite Follow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Isabelle’s IG: @theplantiful El’s IG: @the_elturner

Join us for an insightful conversation with Erica Anderson and Ingrid Nilsen, the co-founders of The New Savant. Erica brings her extensive experience from working as an early employee and changemaker at Twitter and Google, while Ingrid draws on her successful career as an OG YouTube creator. Together, they create unique, artisanal fragrances that bring comfort and joy to everyday moments. Learn about their inspiration, the creative process behind their one-of-a-kind scents, and their vision for the future. The New Savant website: https://thenewsavant.com/ The New Savant IG: https://www.instagram.com/thenewsavant Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi ! Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite! The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you.  The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/ The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavorite Follow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Isabelle’s IG: @theplantiful El’s IG: @the_elturner

Today we welcome Ryan Babenzien on the show. He’s a visionary entrepreneur who has revolutionized not one, but two industries. First, he took the footwear world by storm with Greats, the first digitally native sneaker brand, which he successfully sold to Steve Madden. Now, he’s making waves in the beauty and wellness sector with Jolie Skin, a brand that’s redefining how we think about water purity and its impact on our skin and hair. Ryan’s journey from managing clients at ICM Partners to founding and scaling two groundbreaking companies is nothing short of remarkable. In this episode, we’ll dive into his entrepreneurial journey, the challenges he’s faced, and who Ryan, the human, is behind all the successes. Jolie website: https://jolieskinco.com/ Jolie IG account: https://www.instagram.com/jolieskinco/ Ryan’s IG account: https://www.instagram.com/ryanbbabenzien Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi! Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite! The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you. The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/ The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavorite Follow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Isabelle’s IG: @theplantiful El’s IG: @the_elturner

Welcome to the Say More podcast! In our first episode, we dive into our personal backgrounds: El’s journey from fashion to co-founding Argent and launching The Big Favorite in 2020, and Isabelle’s path from tech to food, culminating in the creation of Lupii in 2019. This episode is a candid exploration of what drives us, the challenges we’ve faced, and how we’ve overcome them. We also discuss the inspiration behind starting the Say More Podcast, focusing on the “why” behind entrepreneurial success. Join us for an exciting first season with inspiring guests who embrace vulnerability and honesty. The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/ The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavorite Follow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Isabelle’s IG: @theplantiful El’s IG: @the_elturner Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi ! Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee

Say More is a podcast that delves into the 'why' behind successful entrepreneurs and creators. We believe true success stems from aligning personal passion, skills, and goals with your business, not just tactical execution. In interviews, we go beyond just building a business to explore the hearts and minds of founders, builders, and creators to prove our hypothesis and establish the throughlines of success and longevity. Follow us on Instagram @thesaymorepodcast Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast