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In this episode, we dive deep into the parable that challenges our notions of fairness and generosity. Why do we feel envy when others receive blessings we think they don’t deserve? This story isn’t just about labourers; it’s a message about the kingdom of God where everyone has enough.

What if the true essence of this parable is a reminder that generosity can redefine our understanding of fairness? It’s not about what we earn but the grace we receive.

So, let’s reflect: Are we ready to embrace a world where generosity reigns over competition? What does that look like for you?

This series was originally preached at James’ church Wellspring Worship Centre - a diverse and Jesus loving community found in Toronto.

In this engaging interview, Meredith Miller shares her insights on teaching the Bible to children and adults, emphasizing wonder, imagination, and faithfulness. Discover how her approach transforms biblical storytelling into a space of curiosity and trust, fostering a deeper connection with God’s story.

You can check out Meredith’s substack here (and you really should)

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Mark 10

And as he was setting out on his journey, a man ran up and knelt before him and asked him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. You know the commandments: ‘Do not murder, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother.’” And he said to him, “Teacher, all these I have kept from my youth.” And Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him, “You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.” Disheartened by the saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.

And Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, “How difficult it will be for those who have wealth to enter the kingdom of God!” And the disciples were amazed at his words. But Jesus said to them again, “Children, how difficult it is to enter the kingdom of God! It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.” And they were exceedingly astonished, and said to him, “Then who can be saved?” Jesus looked at them and said, “With man it is impossible, but not with God. For all things are possible with God.” Peter began to say to him, “See, we have left everything and followed you.” Jesus said, “Truly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or lands, for my sake and for the gospel, who will not receive a hundredfold now in this time, houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions, and in the age to come eternal life. But many who are first will be last, and the last first.”

Summary

In this episode of "Right Side Up," Danielle Strickland and James Sholl explore the concept of viewing the world through a different lens, particularly in how we interpret the Bible. They discuss the importance of challenging traditional perspectives and the impact of wealth on spiritual life.

The conversation delves into the story of the rich man in the Bible, emphasizing Jesus' unique expression of love towards him and the broader implications of wealth as a perceived blessing. The hosts reflect on societal norms, inherited wealth, and the transformative power of generosity, encouraging listeners to practice giving as a way to combat scarcity mindsets. They also touch on cultural insights from the Blackfoot tribe, contrasting them with Western individualism.

This series was originally preached at James’ church Wellspring Worship Centre - a diverse and Jesus loving community found in Toronto.

Acts 6

In those days when the number of disciples was increasing, the Hellenistic Jews among them complained against the Hebraic Jews because their widows were being overlooked in the daily distribution of food. So the Twelve gathered all the disciples together and said, “It would not be right for us to neglect the ministry of the word of God in order to wait on tables. Brothers and sisters, choose seven men from among you who are known to be full of the Spirit and wisdom. We will turn this responsibility over to them and will give our attention to prayer and the ministry of the word.”

This proposal pleased the whole group. They chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Spirit; also Philip, Procorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas, and Nicolas from Antioch, a convert to Judaism. They presented these men to the apostles, who prayed and laid their hands on them.

So the word of God spread. The number of disciples in Jerusalem increased rapidly, and a large number of priests became obedient to the faith.

Summary

In this episode of "Right Side Up," Danielle Strickland and James Sholl explore themes of inclusion, power dynamics, and community within the early church, as depicted in Acts 6. They discuss how the early church addressed issues of neglect and racism by empowering marginalized groups, specifically the Hellenists, to lead and distribute resources. This approach is highlighted as a model for modern communities to correct systemic imbalances and foster inclusivity. The conversation emphasizes the importance of listening to underrepresented voices and sharing power to reflect the spirit of the gospel.

This series was originally preached at James’ church Wellspring Worship Centre - a diverse and Jesus loving community found in Toronto.

John 4

Now Jesus learned that the Pharisees had heard that he was gaining and baptizing more disciples than John— although in fact it was not Jesus who baptized, but his disciples. So he left Judea and went back once more to Galilee.

Now he had to go through Samaria. So he came to a town in Samaria called Sychar, near the plot of ground Jacob had given to his son Joseph. Jacob’s well was there, and Jesus, tired as he was from the journey, sat down by the well. It was about noon.

When a Samaritan woman came to draw water, Jesus said to her, “Will you give me a drink?” (His disciples had gone into the town to buy food.)

The Samaritan woman said to him, “You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me for a drink?” (For Jews do not associate with Samaritans.)

Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.”

“Sir,” the woman said, “you have nothing to draw with and the well is deep. Where can you get this living water? Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his livestock?”

Jesus answered, “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”

The woman said to him, “Sir, give me this water so that I won’t get thirsty and have to keep coming here to draw water.”

He told her, “Go, call your husband and come back.”

“I have no husband,” she replied.

Jesus said to her, “You are right when you say you have no husband. The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. What you have just said is quite true.”

“Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”

“Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”

Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he.”

Just then his disciples returned and were surprised to find him talking with a woman. But no one asked, “What do you want?” or “Why are you talking with her?”

Then, leaving her water jar, the woman went back to the town and said to the people, “Come, see a man who told me everything I ever did. Could this be the Messiah?” They came out of the town and made their way toward him.

Meanwhile his disciples urged him, “Rabbi, eat something.”

But he said to them, “I have food to eat that you know nothing about.”

Then his disciples said to each other, “Could someone have brought him food?”

“My food,” said Jesus, “is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work. Don’t you have a saying, ‘It’s still four months until harvest’? I tell you, open your eyes and look at the fields! They are ripe for harvest. Even now the one who reaps draws a wage and harvests a crop for eternal life, so that the sower and the reaper may be glad together. Thus the saying ‘One sows and another reaps’ is true. I sent you to reap what you have not worked for. Others have done the hard work, and you have reaped the benefits of their labor.”

Many of the Samaritans from that town believed in him because of the woman’s testimony, “He told me everything I ever did.” So when the Samaritans came to him, they urged him to stay with them, and he stayed two days. And because of his words many more became believers.

They said to the woman, “We no longer believe just because of what you said; now we have heard for ourselves, and we know that this man really is the Savior of the world.”

This series was originally preached at James’ church Wellspring Worship Centre - a diverse and Jesus loving community found in Toronto.

John 8:2-11

At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”

“No one, sir,” she said.

“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

Painting by Yongsung Kim

This series was originally preached at James’ church Wellspring Worship Centre - a diverse and Jesus loving community found in Toronto.

Matthew 14:22-31

Immediately Jesus made the disciples get into the boat and go on ahead of him to the other side, while he dismissed the crowd. 23. Later that night, he was there alone, 24 and the boat was already a considerable distance from land, buffeted by the waves because the wind was against it.

25 Shortly before dawn Jesus went out to them, walking on the lake. 26 When the disciples saw him walking on the lake, they were terrified. “It’s a ghost,” they said, and cried out in fear.

27 But Jesus immediately said to them: “Take courage! It is I. Don’t be afraid.”

28 “Lord, if it’s you,” Peter replied, “tell me to come to you on the water.”

29 “Come,” he said.

Then Peter got down out of the boat, walked on the water and came toward Jesus. 30 But when he saw the wind, he was afraid and, beginning to sink, cried out, “Lord, save me!”

31 Immediately Jesus reached out his hand and caught him. “You of little faith,” he said, “why did you doubt?”

Can’t you just hear the disappointment

Once again Peter you’ve tried and you failed.

Much better to be those disciples who didn’t try at all. And the artwork around this…really reflects Peter’s failure.

But what if we read this differently. What if read this as Jesus helps Peter walk on water.

This series was originally preached at James’ church Wellspring Worship Centre - a diverse and Jesus loving community found in Toronto.

For the next few weeks we shall be focusing on some of the sub-headings in the bible - things that translators have added to help make the bible more accessible. But also take a closer look at how they can sometimes miss a lot of the story.

These sub-headings shape our reading of the text. If a sub- heading tells me about a prodigal son I’m not likely to pay as much attention to the other characters in the parable. Ultimately these subtitles were put there by people, often with very good intentions to help make the bible easier to read…but sometimes they miss the point. And sometimes scripture is just so rich that there is no way that a few words could sum it up.

So join us as we flip the script and dig deeper into the scripture that we love so much.

Here is the picture of the NIV translation team that we mentioned in the podcast

This series was originally preached at James’ church Wellspring Worship Centre - a diverse and Jesus loving community found in Toronto.

Summary

Pastor Brian Zahnd shares his spiritual journey from the Jesus movement to a more contemplative faith, emphasizing the importance of prayer, pilgrimage, and prophetic witness in today’s church. The discussion explores themes of deconstruction, renewal, and the transformative power of slow, intentional spiritual practices.

“I try to write what I cannot not write.”

Key Topics

Spiritual journey from the Jesus movement to contemplative faith

The role of prayer and prayer school in spiritual renewal

Pilgrimage as a spiritual discipline and renewal tool

The impact of cultural and political shifts on faith and church

This book looks even more beautiful in real life!

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Brian Zahnd

02:51 Brian’s Journey and Transformation

05:43 Critique of American Christianity

08:32 The Role of Prayer in Spiritual Awakening

11:09 The Importance of Liturgy and Community

13:42 The Future of Brian’s Work and Writing

16:36 Pilgrimage and Spiritual Practices

24:09 The Camino de Santiago: A Journey of Transformation

28:33 Walking into Peace: The Impact of Pilgrimage

30:03 The Slow Pace of Life: Embracing Simplicity

33:36 Contemplative Leadership: A New Model for the Church

38:12 Navigating Conflict with Grace: The Cost of Compassion

43:16 Finding Wisdom in Stillness: A Prayer for Patience

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Summary

In this episode of "The Right Side Up," hosts James Sholl and Danielle Strickland engage in a profound conversation with Dorothy Greco about her book, "For the Love of Women: Uprooting and Healing Misogyny in America." The discussion delves into the complexities of misogyny, exploring its pervasive impact across various spheres of life, including healthcare, the workplace, and the church. Greco shares her personal journey, highlighting her experiences as a woman navigating a male-dominated world and the importance of addressing misogyny to foster healing and empowerment for women. The conversation emphasizes the need for men to listen, learn, and become allies in the fight against misogyny, ultimately advocating for a more inclusive and equitable society.

'You can't heal what you won't name and talk about.'

Takeaways

* ‘You can’t heal what you won’t name and talk about.’

* ‘Misogyny is a persistent, insidious belief that men’s ideas are more important than women’s.’

* ‘If you don’t fit the stereotype, you feel the effects of rejection and identity issues.’

* ‘Change is hard work, and it takes a long time to challenge presuppositions.’

* ‘Men need to learn what it means to listen to and value women.’

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Dorothy Greco and Her Book

01:04 Dorothy’s Background and Journey

08:55 Defining Misogyny and Its Impact

16:37 Men as Allies in the Fight Against Misogyny

23:55 The Role of the Church in Addressing Misogyny

30:16 Transformative Change and Empowerment for Women

40:35 Hope for Future Generations

Follow more of Dorothy’s work here

James, Danielle’s co-host, is the pastor of Wellspring Worship Centre in Toronto which you can find out more about here

Right Side Up: Danielle Strickland is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.

Summary

In this conversation, James Sholl and Danielle Strickland engage with Brian Recker, author of ‘Hell Bent’, discussing his journey from fundamentalism to a more expansive understanding of faith. They explore themes of deconstruction, the implications of hell in Christianity, and the importance of justice over punishment. The conversation emphasizes the need for authenticity in spirituality and the liberating experience of finding Jesus beyond traditional frameworks.

‘I began, very strongly, to feel that who we were in Evangelicalism did not reflect the spirituality of Jesus’

Takeaways

* Brian Recker’s book ‘Hell Bent’ explores the fear of hell in Christianity.

* Deconstruction often begins with questioning fundamental beliefs.

* The political climate can significantly impact one’s faith journey.

* Grieving the loss of traditional faith structures is a common experience.

* Finding Jesus outside of traditional frameworks can be liberating.

* The concept of hell often reflects a punitive view of God.

* Justice in Christianity should focus on restoration, not punishment.

* Fear-based spirituality can hinder genuine connection with God.

* Authenticity in faith leads to deeper belonging and community.

* The journey of faith can be both challenging and transformative.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background Noise

01:53 Introducing Brian Recker and His Book

03:51 Brian’s Journey from Fundamentalism to Evangelicalism

07:26 The Impact of Politics on Faith

11:23 Deconstruction and the Search for Authenticity

14:45 Encountering Jesus Amidst Deconstruction

18:33 Prayer and Spiritual Practices

22:04 Listening to Marginalized Voices

25:40 The Concept of Hell and Its Implications

29:57 The Nature of God’s Justice

32:20 Rethinking Judgment and Redemption

33:56 God vs. Empire: A New Perspective

35:56 The Consequences of Spirituality

37:48 The Role of Hell in Faith

42:56 Love Over Fear: A New Approach to Faith

47:36 Connecting with the Right God

53:51 Finding Genuine Belonging

Join us for an incredible conversation with Zach Lambert about his book ‘Better Ways to Read the Bible’ where we talk about just what is happening with Christianity today, the ways that the Bible has been weaponized, and the way that we can reclaim it!

Summary

In this conversation, Danielle Strickland and Bette Dickinson explore the themes of spiritual flourishing, the importance of embodied encounters, and the need to dethrone the powers of industrialization in our spiritual lives. They discuss the significance of quality over quantity in spiritual growth, the role of relationships in flourishing, and the concept of creating an understory of mutuality. The conversation also delves into the cyclical nature of life, the importance of rest and dormancy, and God’s desire for our flourishing. Ultimately, they emphasize the need for a prophetic imagination to awaken us to a different way of living that prioritizes connection and community.

00:00 Introduction to The Art of Vine Making

01:19 Spiritual Flourishing in a Productivity-Driven Culture

03:55 Embodied Encounters and Spiritual Formation

05:45 Dethroning the Powers of Disconnection

09:38 The Contrast Between Industrialized and Organic Approaches

13:26 Quality Over Quantity in Ministry

17:00 Creating an Understory of Flourishing

18:25 The Role of Shepherding in Deliverance

22:59 Awakening to Prophetic Imagination

27:46 Flourishing vs. Productivity

33:16 The Cycles of Life and Ministry

38:52 Seasons of the Soul

44:25 Embracing Flourishing and Surrender

‘Does God view us like a microwave?’

Takeaways

* Spiritual flourishing is a journey that requires community engagement.

* Embodied encounters with nature can deepen our spiritual experiences.

* Dethroning the powers of industrialization is essential for spiritual growth.

* Quality of spiritual life is more important than quantity of output.

* Relationships are key to flourishing in our spiritual lives.

* Creating an understory of mutuality fosters a sense of belonging.

* Shepherding is a model for liberation and care in our communities.

* The prophetic imagination can awaken us to new possibilities.

* Each season of life has its own significance and purpose.

* God desires for us to flourish and grow in our spiritual journeys.

Check out Bette’s wonderful website here -

https://www.bettedickinson.com/

Summary

In this conversation, Joash P. Thomas discusses his book ‘The Justice of Jesus’ and explores the themes of justice, faith, and the impact of colonization on modern Christianity. He emphasizes the importance of centering marginalized voices and the need for the church to engage in justice work without the constraints of colonial frameworks. The discussion also touches on the complexities of mission work, the role of empathy, and the call to live a flourishing life now, rather than focusing solely on the afterlife.

‘Justice is a communal exercise’

Takeaways

* Joash wrote a book called ‘The Justice of Jesus’.

* Justice should not be pigeonholed into biblical or social categories.

* All justice is ultimately God’s justice.

* We can’t change the past, but we can be faithful in the present.

* The gospel centers marginalized voices.

* Decolonization is essential for understanding justice.

* Empathy is crucial in addressing historical injustices.

* The church must engage in justice work today.

* Mission work can have both beautiful and harmful outcomes.

* Living a flourishing life now is a key aspect of faith.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background of Joash P. Thomas

02:41 The Justice of Jesus: A New Perspective

05:45 Decolonizing Justice and Faith

08:04 The Impact of Colonization on Justice

10:50 Understanding the Complexity of Colonization

13:37 The Duality of Good and Harm in Mission Work

20:04 The Complexity of Divine Action Amidst Human Atrocity

21:59 The Now of the Gospel: Living in Abundance

23:44 Reckoning with Colonial Narratives and Their Impact

26:09 Centering Marginalized Voices in the Gospel

27:56 Transformation Through Empathy and Understanding

29:43 Navigating the Tension Between Prophetic and Priestly Calls

32:16 Historical Trauma and Its Effects on Power Dynamics

36:16 Co-opting Liberation: The Need for Reflection

37:52 Hope in the Global Church: Moving Forward Together

Summary

In this episode of the Right Side Up podcast, hosts Danielle Strickland and James Sholl engage in a profound conversation with Karissa Sovdi about the complexities of singleness within the church. They explore the societal and theological implications of viewing singleness as a problem to be solved rather than a valid and fulfilling life choice. The discussion touches on the idolatry of marriage and family, the importance of celebrating life milestones beyond traditional markers, and the need for genuine community and friendship. Karissa shares her personal journey of dismantling the ‘future wife’ identity and embracing the gift of singleness, while also addressing the burdens and misconceptions surrounding it. The episode concludes with practical advice for living a fulfilling single life and the importance of inclusivity in church communities.

Check out more from Karissa at Surviving Christianity Unmarried

‘I never really identified as a person; I identified as a future wife’

Takeaways

* Singleness is often viewed as a problem rather than a valid life choice.

* The nuclear family is idolized in North American Christianity.

* Celebrating milestones beyond marriage is essential for community.

* Eternal life and fulfilment can start now, not just in marriage.

* Celibacy and singleness can be gifts that allow for deeper connections with God.

* Friendship is crucial and often overlooked in discussions about singleness.

* Comparison can lead to feelings of inadequacy and loneliness.

* The church needs to create inclusive spaces for singles.

* Marriage should not be seen as the ultimate goal or solution to loneliness.

* Practical steps can help individuals embrace and celebrate their singleness.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Karissa Sovdi

01:32 Exploring Singleness in the Church

03:50 Dismantling the Future Wife Identity

07:43 The Idolatry of Family and Marriage

11:02 Celebrating Life Beyond Marriage

14:41 The Gift of Singleness and Celibacy

18:50 Understanding Celibacy and Singleness

21:15 The Role of Friendship in Singleness

24:54 The Burden of Singleness in Church

29:37 Reimagining Community and Connection

32:11 Jesus’ Example of Singleness

35:17 The Crisis of Loneliness and Friendship

38:29 Practical Steps for Living Singleness Well

42:52 Conclusion and Resources

Summary

In this engaging conversation, Sheila Wray Gregoire discusses her groundbreaking work, 'The Great Sex Rescue,' which reveals the dissatisfaction of evangelical women in marriages due to toxic beliefs about gender roles. The discussion emphasizes the importance of mutual respect, healthy communication, and the need for empowerment and non-compliance in challenging patriarchal structures and her latest book ‘The Marriage You Want’. Sheila highlights the role of religion in relationships and the necessity of addressing toxic teachings within the church. The conversation concludes with a call to action for individuals to seek healthier, more fulfilling marriages based on equality and partnership.

“Healthy communication is the key to a successful marriage.”

"Healthy communication is key to a successful marriage."

Takeaways

* The Great Sex Rescue highlighted the dissatisfaction of evangelical women in marriages.

* Toxic beliefs about gender roles can lead to harmful practices in relationships.

* Religiosity can be beneficial, but toxic teachings can negate those benefits.

* Healthy marriages are built on mutual respect and partnership.

* Women should not feel obligated to fulfill male desires at the expense of their own needs.

* Doubt and deconstruction can lead to a deeper understanding of faith.

* Empowerment and non-compliance are essential for women in toxic environments.

* Healthy communication is key to a successful marriage.

* The church must address and change toxic teachings about gender roles.

* Jesus' teachings promote equality and mutual respect in relationships.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Sheila Wray Gregoire

00:58 The Great Sex Rescue: A Turning Point

04:34 Research Findings on Women's Satisfaction

09:13 The Impact of Toxic Beliefs

13:48 Challenging Patriarchy in Marriage

18:52 The Role of Religion in Relationships

23:44 Navigating Toxic Church Environments

28:29 Building Healthy Marriages

33:10 Empowerment and Non-Compliance

38:04 The Importance of Mutual Respect

42:49 The Future of Marriage and Relationships

47:42 Conclusion and Call to Action

56:29 Black and White Bold Modern Podcast YouTube Intro.mp4

Melinda Tankard Reist is an author, speaker, media commentator, blogger and advocate for women and girls. She is best known for her work addressing sexualisation, objectification, harms of pornography, sexual exploitation, trafficking and violence against women.

Summary

In this conversation, Danielle Strickland and her co-host James Sholl engage with Melinda Tankard Reist, a passionate advocate against the exploitation of women and children through pornography. They discuss the alarming rise of harmful sexual behaviors among youth, the cultural attitudes that normalize pornography, and the role of technology in perpetuating exploitation. Melinda shares insights from her research and experiences, highlighting the urgent need for collective action to combat these issues. The conversation emphasizes the importance of empathy, awareness, and advocacy in creating a safer world for women and girls.

Takeaways

* Melinda Tankard Reist is a passionate advocate against pornography and exploitation.

* The rise of harmful sexual behaviors among youth is alarming and needs urgent attention.

* Cultural attitudes often normalize pornography, making it difficult to combat its effects.

* Technology plays a significant role in perpetuating exploitation and harmful behaviors.

* Empathy is crucial in understanding the impact of pornography on individuals and society.

Collective action is necessary to address the systemic issues surrounding pornography.

* There is hope for change, as many individuals are beginning to recognize the harms of pornography.

* Education and awareness are key in fighting against the normalization of pornography.

* The fight against exploitation requires both personal and political action.

* We must not be naive about the dangers posed by the pornography industry.

Sound bites

"We need a global ban on AI deep fake."

"We are losing empathy and this is my biggest fear."

"We deserve more than porn. We deserve to be loved."

Important Links

For parents:

What you need to know: https://culturereframed.org

Discussing with kids: https://parents.thorn.org/situation/

Parental online controls: https://www.bark.us

Fighting Back:

Fight The New Drug: https://fightthenewdrug.org

Resisting porn: https://resistporn.org

READING LIST

'Behind the Classroom Door', MTR, Eureka Street ,https://melindatankardreist.com/2025/05/behind-the-classroom-door-sexual-harassment-is-becoming-routine/

‘P*rn’s grooming starts young’, MTR, Eureka Street https://melindatankardreist.com/2023/07/prns-grooming-starts-young-mtr-eureka-street-essay/

“It makes my skin crawl”: sexual moaning rise in schools’, MTR, https://melindatankardreist.com/2022/06/it-makes-my-skin-crawl-sexual-moaning-rise-in-schools/

'Secondary Schools and a duty of care to keep students safe from harmful sexual behaviours', 'Off The Cuff' podcast, Kelly Humphries with guests Melinda Tankard Reist and Maha Melhem: https://kellyhumphries.com/podcast_episodes/maha-melhem-melinda-tankard-reist-the-complex-storm-harmful-sexual-behaviours-prn/

'Digital Dangers: AI Weaponization and Online Exploitation', 'Off the Cuff' podcast, Kelly Humphries with guests Melinda Tankard Reist and Maha Melhem: https://kellyhumphries.com/podcast_episodes/digital-dangers-ai-weaponization-and-online-exploitation/

Digital Dangers: AI Weaponization and Online Exploitation | Kelly Humphries

AI weaponization, sextortion, and the exploitation of young people are on the rise, creating a digital nightmare for vulnerable youth. Join me, along with Melinda Tankard Reist and Maha Melham, as we delve into this digitally dark world of online exploitation.

kellyhumphries.com

'Adolescence: It's time for Katie's story', MTR, MTR blog: https://melindatankardreist.com/2025/05/adolescence-its-time-for-katies-story/

Never Again? Addressing Sexual Violence Must Include P*rnography’, Melinda Tankard Reist, ABC Religion & Ethicshttps://www.abc.net.au/religion/never-again-addressing-sexual-violence-must-include-pornography/10094568

‘Growing Up in P*rnland: Girls Have Had It with Porn Conditioned Boys, Melinda Tankard Reist, ABC Religion & Ethics,https://www.abc.net.au/religion/growing-up-in-pornland-girls-have-had-it-with-porn-conditioned-b/10097244

‘In a society where male violence seems inevitable we need much more than education and awareness’, Michael Salter, The Guardian, Tuesday April 30,

2024 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/30/in-a-society-where-male-violence-seems-inevitable-we-need-much-more-than-education-and-awareness

‘Sexual violence is pushing girls out of school’, UK Agenda Alliance https://www.agendaalliance.org/news/sexual-violence-absenteeism-girls-school/

Children now ‘biggest perpetrators of sexual abuse against children’https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/jan/10/children-now-biggest-perpetrators-of-sexual-abuse-against-children?utm_source=linkedin&utm_medium=social&utm_content=ap_qf09zbmvhm

‘There are reports some students are making sexual moaning noises at school. Here’s how parents and teachers can respond’, Daryl Higgins, Gabrielle Hunt, The Conversation, January 31, 2024 https://theconversation.com/there-are-reports-some-students-are-making-sexual-moaning-noises-at-school-heres-how-parents-and-teachers-can-respond-220136

‘Child sexual abuse by different classes and types of perpetrator: Prevalence and trends from an Australian national survey’, Ben Mathews et al, Child Abuse & Neglect, Vol 147, January 2024, 106562https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0145213423005501?via%3Dihub

Our Watch P*rnography, young people and preventing violence against women https://media-cdn.ourwatch.org.au/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/11/20022415/Pornography-young-people-preventing-violence.pdf

National Plan to Address Violence Against Women https://www.dss.gov.au/ending-violence#:~:text=The%20National%20Plan%20outlines%20what,stop%20it%20before%20it%20starts.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Conversation

02:15 The Dark Reality of Pornography

10:49 The Impact of Pornography on Youth

16:58 Cultural Attitudes Towards Pornography

23:00 The Role of Technology in Exploitation

32:14 The Fight Against Exploitation

42:45 Hope and Change in the Fight Against Pornography

Jemar Tisby is a New York Times bestselling author, national speaker, and public historian on a mission to deliver truths from the Black experience with depth and clarity.

Summary

In this conversation, Danielle Strickland and James Scholl engage with Dr. Jemar Tisby, a historian and author, to explore the complex relationship between racism and spirituality. They discuss Tisby's personal journey into racial justice, the impact of the Black Lives Matter movement, and the importance of moving from racial reconciliation to racial justice. The conversation delves into the historical context of racism in America, the role of the church, and the spiritual nature of racism. Tisby emphasizes the need for collective action, the significance of unsung heroes in the fight for justice, and the importance of discipleship in addressing systemic injustices. The discussion concludes with practical steps for church leaders to foster a commitment to justice within their communities.

Take-aways

* Racism is a spiritual issue that requires a collective response.

* The church has a responsibility to address systemic injustices.

* Racial reconciliation often lacks the depth needed for true justice.

* Understanding history is crucial to addressing current racial issues.

* The Curse of Ham has been misused to justify racism.

* Women played a vital role in the civil rights movement.

* Discipleship should include a commitment to justice.

* Awareness, relationships, and commitment are key to racial justice.

* Activism often starts with small groups or individuals.

* Hope exists in the ongoing fight for justice.

Links

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Summary

In this conversation, Hakeem Bradley shares his journey from growing up in the 5% Nation to becoming a biblical scholar. He discusses the contrasting views on scripture between Islam and Christianity, his transition from pastoral ministry to biblical research, and the significance of Genesis in understanding powers and principalities. Hakeem emphasizes the importance of equity in the creation narrative and explores the cultural context of Genesis in relation to ancient Near Eastern texts. He also highlights the influence of Genesis on the Epistle of James and the role of the church in spiritual warfare. In this conversation, Hakeem Bradley and Danielle Strickland explore the themes of spiritual warfare, the power of love and generosity, the concept of original sin as passive participation, and the awakening potential of scripture. They discuss the authority given to humanity, the wisdom from above, and the true nature of power as demonstrated by Jesus. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of living generously and the transformative power of love in combating darkness.

Takeaways

* Hakeem Bradley's journey from the 5% Nation to biblical scholarship is profound.

* The Bible can be a tool for liberation, not oppression.

* Understanding the cultural context of scripture is crucial.

* Genesis sets the foundation for understanding powers and principalities.

* Equity is inherent in the creation narrative of Genesis.

* The line of the woman and the line of the snake represent spiritual allegiances.

* The wisdom from above is accessible to all believers.

* The church has a role in crushing spiritual oppression.

* Hakeem's work aims to equip families for biblical literacy.

* The narrative of Genesis challenges patriarchal interpretations. We join in with Christ's mission to defeat darkness.

* Living generously and hospitably is a form of spiritual warfare.

* Original sin is about passive participation in evil.

* Scripture serves as an awakening tool for believers.

* Authority was given to humanity to rule wisely.

* The snake symbolizes twisted authority in creation.

* True power is often perceived as weakness in the world.

* Choosing not to retaliate reflects true strength.

* The wisdom of God is accessible to us now.

* Engaging with scripture shapes our understanding and actions.

About Hakeem

Hakeem is a biblical scholar, teacher, blogger, and researcher. He has served various communities across the United States and Canada through preaching, teaching, and research. He holds a Master’s of Theological and Biblical Studies from Western Seminary and is a Ph. D. candidate in New Testament Studies at Ridley College (Melbourne). He works as an Associate Scholar at BibleProject, and serves as the chaplain for the College Park Skyhawks. Lastly, he is an Academic Fellow with the Center for Hebraic Thought.

Summary

In this conversation, Danielle Strickland, James Sholl, and Dr. Hilary McBride explore the complex relationship between religion, mental health, and societal systems. They discuss how religion can serve as both a source of support and a potential source of harm, particularly when it becomes a toxic system that prioritizes itself over the well-being of individuals. The conversation delves into the nuances of how charismatic leadership can manipulate followers and the importance of understanding the disconnection that can occur within religious contexts, ultimately leading to a deeper exploration of identity and belonging. In this conversation, Danielle Strickland and Hillary McBride explore the profound connection between embodiment, spirituality, and trauma. They discuss how disconnection from our bodies can lead to various forms of suffering and how reconnecting with our physical selves can be a pathway to liberation and healing. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of recognizing the value of our bodies, understanding cultural narratives that devalue them, and the spiritual significance of listening to our bodies. Through personal anecdotes and professional insights, they highlight practices for fostering a deeper connection with oneself and the world around us.

Takeaways

* Religion can be both a source of support and harm.

* Cultural practices around spirituality can disconnect us from our spiritual longings.

* Systems can serve their own purposes at the expense of individuals.

* Charismatic leaders can create environments that feel safe but are toxic.

* Attachment styles influence how individuals relate to systems.

* Disconnection from self can lead to compliance in toxic systems.

* Religious practices can exacerbate mental health issues for some.

* Understanding the sacred purpose of systems is crucial.

* Disconnection is a key factor in understanding oppression. Disconnection from the body can lead to suffering.

* Embodiment is a pathway to spiritual and political liberation.

* Recognizing the value of bodies is essential for healing.

* Cultural narratives often devalue the body, especially for women.

* Listening to our bodies can reveal deep truths about ourselves.

* Trauma can create a disconnect from our physical selves.

* Practices for embodiment can help reconnect with our bodies.

* Spirituality is intertwined with our physical existence.

* Memory is held in our bodies and influences our experiences.

* The body can be a source of wisdom and guidance.

Dr. Hillary McBride

"We are in desperate need of a new economic story."

Ched Myers

Summary

In this episode of the Right Side Up podcast, Danielle Strickland and James Sholl engage with Ched Myers to explore the interconnected themes of principalities and powers, biblical theology, activism, and social justice. They discuss the importance of apocalyptic literature as a form of resistance against oppressive systems, the role of the church in advocating for social justice, and the concept of Sabbath economics as a means of community engagement. The conversation emphasizes the need for practical steps towards resistance and change, encouraging listeners to reimagine economic narratives and engage in meaningful action.

Takeaways

* Ched Myers emphasizes the importance of discussing principalities and powers in relation to social justice.

* The conversation highlights the need for a holistic understanding of biblical theology and activism.

* Apocalyptic literature serves as a vital tool for resistance against oppressive systems.

* The church has a significant role in advocating for social justice and confronting empire.

* Sabbath economics is presented as a framework for community engagement and mutual aid.

* Ched Myers calls for a new economic story rooted in biblical principles.

* The podcast encourages listeners to engage with their local communities and resist economic injustice.

* Stories are essential for understanding our history and fighting against oppression.

* The conversation underscores the importance of recognizing the interconnectedness of faith and economics.

* Ched Myers invites listeners to join the ongoing river of social justice activism.

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Links

Chapters

00:00 Exploring Principalities and Powers

10:07 Ched Myers' Journey to Faith

17:10 The Role of Apocalyptic Literature

25:08 Sabbath Economics and Resistance

34:07 The Jubilee Tradition and Economic Justice

35:34 The Biblical Foundation of Mutual Aid

37:02 Jubilee Language in Luke's Gospel

38:29 Understanding Affluenza as a Disease

39:58 Jesus and the Rich: Unmasking Plutocracy

42:37 Restoring Kinship Through Redistribution

44:05 The Role of Scripture in Political Imagination

48:55 Practical Steps Towards Economic Justice

53:13 Investing in Community Development

54:59 Challenging the Monopoly Mentality

01:00:29 The Power of Stories in Social Justice

"We live in the tension between two worlds."

Bob Ekblad

Summary

In this conversation, Danielle Strickland, James Sholl, and Bob Ekblad delve into the complex themes of powers and principalities, exploring their nature, the role of Jesus in exposing them, and the implications for social justice and activism. They discuss the idea of redemption versus destruction of these powers, the finite nature of systems, and the call for Christians to resist and reform while living out their identities in Christ. The conversation emphasizes the importance of recognizing the limitations of earthly powers and the need for a deeper understanding of faith and action in the world.

Take-aways

* The powers and principalities are not just spiritual but also manifest in systems and institutions.

* Redemption does not mean that everything will be saved; some things must be destroyed.

* Jesus's authority is demonstrated through servanthood and sacrifice, not through power and dominance.

* The church must resist the temptation to equate political power with divine authority.

* The narrative of the Exodus illustrates the futility of trying to reform oppressive powers.

* Social justice efforts must be rooted in the understanding that God is the ultimate savior, not human systems.

* The church's identity should transcend national and ethnic boundaries, focusing on unity in Christ.

* Living out our faith means divesting from the powers that seek to control and dominate.

* The tension between the kingdom of God and earthly powers is escalating, requiring a faithful response.

* We must acknowledge the finite nature of our world while actively caring for creation.

Jesus's authority is demonstrated through servanthood and sacrifice, not through power and dominance.

Links:

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Context of the Conversation

02:42 Exploring Powers and Principalities

05:29 Redemption and Destruction of Powers

12:10 The Role of Jesus in Authority

18:21 The Dangers of Reforming Powers

27:47 The Finite Nature of Powers and Creation

33:34 Theological Reflections on Fear and Power

39:06 The Nature of Authority and the Role of Jesus

45:05 Living Out Our Heavenly Identities

51:19 Divesting from Powers and Principalities

57:08 Stewardship and the Call to Action

To reject conformity to this age (aion) is to actively resist patterns of domination that distort our humanity.

JR WOODWARD

Summary

In this episode of the Right Side Up podcast, hosts Danielle Strickland and James Sholl engage with JR Woodward, the National Director of the V3 Movement and author of 'The Scandal of Leadership.' They explore the burdens of leadership, the powers at play within institutions, and the temptations leaders face regarding identity and purpose. The conversation emphasizes the importance of community, the deceptive nature of powers, and the necessity of imitating Christ in leadership. Woodward discusses the scapegoat mechanism and the call to resistance against systemic issues, urging leaders to reflect deeply on their roles and the impact of their decisions.

Takeaways

* The burden of leadership often feels heavy and requires deep reflection.

* Understanding the powers at play in leadership can help navigate challenges.

* Institutions can shape leaders in ways that may not align with their values.

* Living in the world requires discernment to not be of the world.

* Leaders face temptations that challenge their identity and purpose.

* The powers can be deceptive, leading to justifications for unethical behavior.

* Imitating Christ is essential for authentic leadership.

* The scapegoat mechanism can create temporary peace but leads to deeper issues.

* Community and proximity to people are vital for effective leadership.

* Resistance to the powers is a necessary call for leaders today.

Links:

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Right Side Up Podcast

02:26 The Burden of Leadership and Writing The Scandal of Leadership

06:12 Understanding Powers and Principalities in Leadership

10:02 The Role of Institutions and Ideologies

14:11 The Temptations of Leadership and Identity

18:16 Unmasking the Powers in Today's Context

22:08 The Call to Church Leaders and Overcoming Evil

29:51 The Impact of Interpretation on Scripture

31:10 Navigating Deception and Humility in Leadership

32:11 Understanding Mimetic Desire and Its Implications

35:33 The Scapegoat Mechanism in Society

39:10 Imitating Christ: A Path to Overcoming Powers

42:59 The Role of Honor and Identity in Leadership

46:35 Proximity to People: A Key to Authentic Leadership

50:40 The Dangers of Exceptionalism in Leadership

53:34 Faithful Resistance: Embracing the Journey of Self-Emptying

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In this engaging conversation, Danielle Strickland, James Sholl, and Aaron White explore the themes of powers and principalities, the harrowing of hell, and the complexities of the gospel. They discuss the sacredness of life, the corruption of good systems, and the idolatry of self, while emphasizing the importance of aligning with the marginalized and understanding the true nature of God's power. The conversation challenges traditional views on hell and encourages a deeper exploration of liberation theology and the good news of Jesus. In this conversation, the speakers explore the themes of death, judgment, and the nature of hell, emphasizing the influence of Dante's imagery on contemporary beliefs. They discuss the biblical stories of the rich man and Lazarus, the concept of refinement and transformation, and the significance of Jesus' descent into hell as a means of liberation. The dialogue also touches on the nature of free will, the role of mercy in justice, and the importance of recognizing and liberating those trapped in shadows of despair. Ultimately, they advocate for a vision of good news that emphasizes love, liberation, and the relentless pursuit of God.

Takeaways

* The power of babies serves as a reminder of sacredness.

* Powers and principalities are often misunderstood in evangelicalism.

* The harrowing of hell reveals the depths of God's love and justice.

* Good systems can become corrupted and serve self-interests.

* Idolatry often stems from a desire for self-preservation.

* Jesus invites us to die to our self-serving agendas.

* The true power of the gospel liberates and transforms lives.

* Understanding hell requires a nuanced theological perspective.

* Liberation theology emphasizes the voices of the marginalized.

* The conversation challenges traditional views on God's judgment and mercy. We often create an allegiance with death and judgment without realizing it.

* Dante's portrayal of hell has shaped modern Christian beliefs.

* The story of the rich man and Lazarus illustrates a great reversal.

* Refinement and transformation are essential aspects of faith.

* Jesus' descent into hell signifies victory over death and liberation for captives.

* Free will is directed towards the good, but many remain trapped in shadows.

* Jesus is the bait that leads to the liberation of souls from hell.

* Justice is ultimately trumped by mercy in God's economy.

* Evil is a shadow, and light must shine to remove it.

* The call to action is to harrow hell and liberate those in despair.

Titles

* Exploring Powers and Principalities

* The Harrowing of Hell Explained

* Understanding the Gospel's True Power

* The Corruption of Good Systems

* Idolatry and Self-Preservation

* The Invitation to Die with Jesus

Summary

In this episode of the Right Side Up podcast, host Danielle Strickland and co-host James Sholl engage with James Stinson, who shares his journey from Australia to the UK and his involvement with Alpha International, focusing on youth ministry. The conversation explores the challenges and opportunities in reaching today's youth, particularly through the lens of recent research on the 'open generation.' Stinson discusses the importance of authenticity, empowerment, and connection in engaging young people, as well as the role of the church in addressing their needs and questions. In this conversation, Danielle Strickland and James Stinson discuss the nature of Jesus, the importance of social justice, and how to effectively communicate the gospel in today's context. They emphasize the need to empower the next generation, innovate church leadership, and the critical role of food in ministry. The dialogue highlights the challenges faced by the church and the ongoing relevance of Jesus's message in a world seeking good news.

Takeaways

James Stinson moved to the UK to pursue football and ended up in youth ministry.

Stinson emphasizes the importance of local church involvement for newcomers.

Alpha International aims to reach marginalized youth through innovative approaches.

The new Alpha Youth series focuses on engaging Generation Z and Generation Alpha.

Research shows that young people are spiritually open and curious about Jesus.

Authenticity is a key value for today's youth, who can see through inauthenticity.

Young people desire empowerment and autonomy in their faith journeys.

The church must listen to young people's needs and perspectives.

Connection without control is essential for engaging youth today.

The research on the open generation reveals a longing for safe spaces to explore faith. The character of Jesus is central to understanding his message.

Contextualizing the gospel is essential for reaching today's generation.

Empowerment over control is key for engaging young people in the church.

Innovative approaches are necessary for effective church leadership.

Food plays a significant role in building community and sharing faith.

The next generation is focused on social justice and helping others.

Church leaders should be willing to take risks and innovate.

Building relationships through meals can facilitate deeper conversations about faith.

The gospel remains relevant even amidst challenges in the church.

Good news must be communicated in a way that resonates with people's experiences.

Sound Bites

"We're a church for the city."

"They want to own things."

"Is God good?"

"Blow the roof off."

"Jesus responds to their faith."

"Food is central to the gospel."

"Good news in a good way."

"Share more meals together."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background of James Stinson

03:32 Journey into Youth Ministry and Alpha International

08:30 The Role of Alpha in Reaching Youth

12:39 Research Insights on the Open Generation

19:22 Empowerment and Connection in Youth Engagement

20:10 Exploring the Nature of Jesus

23:02 The Importance of Contextualizing the Gospel

24:31 Empowering the Next Generation

30:00 Innovative Approaches to Church Leadership

37:11 The Role of Food in Ministry

39:03 The Good News Amidst Challenges

Summary

In this conversation, Danielle Strickland and James Scholl engage with Daniel Yang from World Relief, exploring his personal journey as a refugee and his work with immigrants and refugees in America. They discuss the historical context of refugee resettlement in the U.S., the challenges posed by current political climates, and the vital role of the church in welcoming and supporting vulnerable populations. Daniel shares his reflections on identity, faith, and the importance of maintaining a prophetic voice in a complex cultural moment. In this conversation, Daniel and Danielle explore the themes of Christian nationalism, the call to holiness, and the importance of welcoming the stranger. They discuss the historical context of Christian nationalism, the role of power in faith, and the need for resistance training in spiritual practice. The conversation emphasizes the cost of discipleship, the significance of biblical literacy, and the necessity of participating in acts of love and acceptance towards immigrants and refugees. Ultimately, they highlight the importance of moving from cynicism to hope through active engagement in faith communities.

Takeaways

Daniel Yang shares his journey from being a refugee to working with World Relief.

The church has historically played a crucial role in supporting immigrants and refugees.

Current political climates pose significant challenges to refugee resettlement in the U.S.

Daniel emphasizes the importance of the church's presence in addressing cultural issues.

He reflects on the emotional impact of recent policy changes on his identity as a refugee.

Daniel believes that immigrants are key to the future of Christianity in America.

The conversation highlights the need for the church to adapt to new cultural realities.

Daniel expresses concern about the church's holiness and its role in society.

He advocates for a prophetic voice that speaks truth to power without being politically aligned.

The discussion underscores the importance of faith and community in navigating complex issues. This is a moment that we're in, but that doesn't mean be passive.

We lack the spiritual depth and discipline.

Holiness is about being different and resistant.

The rise of Christian nationalism has historical roots.

American civil religion has influenced Christian identity.

Christians should be subversively involved in all aspects of life.

Welcoming the stranger is an act of protest.

Cynicism is fueled by spectating; hope is fueled by participating.

Understanding the stories of immigrants is crucial for the church.

Discipleship involves welcoming others as part of our faith.

Sound Bites

"The church welcomed us."

"This work was no longer needed."

"I worry if I'm holy enough."

"The fear of the stranger."

"We have to reconcile with that."

"Hope is fueled by participating."

"Cynicism is fueled by spectating."

"This is a part of our own discipleship."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Daniel Yang and His Journey

07:02 The Role of Immigrants in Christianity

08:33 Challenges Facing Refugee Resettlement

10:59 Navigating Complexities of Current Policies

17:07 Personal Reflections on Identity and Faith

22:35 The Call to Holiness and Refinement

23:30 Resistance Training in Faith

24:53 The Church's Response to Evil

25:59 Understanding Christian Nationalism

27:00 Historical Context of Christian Nationalism

29:46 The Role of Power in Faith

32:59 Welcoming the Stranger

35:50 The Cost of Discipleship

38:32 Biblical Literacy and Understanding

41:15 Closing the Proximity Gap

43:40 Participation vs. Cynicism

Summary

In this conversation, Danielle Strickland and James Sholl engage with poet Drew Jackson, exploring his journey from a conservative Baptist background to his current role at the Center for Action and Contemplation (CAC). They discuss the intersection of poetry, spirituality, and social justice, emphasizing how poetry serves as a powerful tool for questioning dominant narratives and fostering deeper connections with scripture and community. Drew shares his experiences of using poetry as a means of spiritual practice and social commentary, highlighting the risks involved in speaking out against societal injustices. In this conversation, Drew Jackson and Danielle Strickland explore the profound impact of poetry as a means of prophetic witness and truth-telling. They discuss the importance of maintaining hope and emotional health amidst societal challenges, the legacy of black writers, and the transformative power of scripture when approached through a poetic lens. The dialogue emphasizes the need for resistance against cultural powers and the significance of community connection in fostering resilience and vitality.

Takeaways

Drew Jackson is a poet and Managing Director at CAC.

His poetry serves as a spiritual practice and social commentary.

Contemplation and justice are deeply intertwined in his work.

Poetry invites questions rather than providing answers.

Drew's background influences his approach to spirituality and poetry.

He emphasizes the political nature of poetry.

Drew's work has helped others reconnect with scripture.

The pandemic prompted Drew to explore poetry more deeply.

He faces risks in addressing social issues through his poetry.

Drew believes he speaks not alone, but as part of a larger tradition. Drew Jackson feels a connection to the lineage of black writers.

Writing is a communal act, influenced by past and present voices.

Prophetic witness reveals uncomfortable truths about society.

Resistance to truth is expected in the journey of a prophet.

Contemplative practices are essential for maintaining hope.

Emotional connection is vital for navigating societal challenges.

Mantras can help reinforce a sense of unity and purpose.

Cultural powers often push against our emotional health.

Poetry can express doubts and fears that society wants to suppress.

Scripture's poetic nature enriches its meaning and relevance.

Sound Bites

"I found poetry to be a balm for me."

"Poetry is a political act."

"Poetry is telling it slant."

"Poetry invites us to drop our defenses."

"I don't write alone."

"We should expect resistance."

"We need one another to feel it all."

"Christ is all and is in all."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Drew Jackson

03:00 Drew's Journey and Role at CAC

06:01 The Influence of Contemplation on Justice

08:58 Drew's Connection to Poetry and Spirituality

11:59 The Role of Poetry in Social Commentary

14:56 The Power of Questions in Poetry

17:56 Navigating Risks as a Poet

20:56 The Impact of Poetry on Faith and Community

25:22 The Legacy of Black Writers and Poets

27:03 The Role of Prophetic Witness in Poetry

28:46 Practices for Maintaining Hope and Vitality

30:35 The Gift of Tears and Emotional Connection

32:51 Practicing Mantras for Connection and Hope

34:58 Resistance Training Against Cultural Powers

37:33 The Depth of Scripture and Poetic Interpretation

40:40 The Transformative Power of Poetry in Scripture

45:51 Engaging with Drew Jackson's Work

Summary

In this engaging conversation, Danielle Strickland and James Scholl discuss with Jared Brock the themes of evil, the nature of Satan, and the insights from his book 'A Devil Named Lucifer'. They explore the misconceptions surrounding the devil, the importance of human agency, and the dynamics of spiritual warfare. The discussion also touches on the relevance of biblical teachings in understanding modern issues of morality and choice. In this conversation, the speakers explore the complex themes of freedom, autonomy, and the influence of the devil in contemporary society. They discuss the paradox of freedom as seen through the lens of Jesus' sacrifice, the misconceptions surrounding demonic influence, and the need for discernment in understanding mental illness versus spiritual oppression. The conversation also delves into the economic injustices that reflect satanic principles, the false gods of modern society, and the importance of recognizing God's sovereignty over evil. Ultimately, they emphasize the Christian mission of liberation and the necessity of right-sizing both God and the devil in our understanding of faith and life.

Takeaways

The devil is not an equal opponent to God.

Satan's role is often misunderstood in modern Christianity.

Human agency plays a crucial role in resisting evil.

The concept of possession is more about individuals holding onto demons.

Footholds and strongholds can be identified in our lives.

Freedom is about choosing the virtuous, not autonomy.

The devil's influence is often through lies and deception.

Understanding the historical context of evil can reshape our views.

Revelation reflects cycles of rebellion and salvation throughout history.

The portrayal of Satan in popular culture is often inaccurate. Freedom is often misunderstood in the context of autonomy.

Demonic influence is prevalent in popular culture but often misrepresented.

Exorcism is a fundamental aspect of Jesus' ministry.

Discernment is crucial in distinguishing between mental illness and demonic influence.

Economic systems can reflect satanic principles of greed and injustice.

Modern society has diversified its false gods.

The devil serves a purpose in God's plan for growth and character development.

Deliverance is a universal need for all individuals.

Right-sizing God is as important as right-sizing the devil.

Liberation is a core mission of the Christian faith.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Powers and Principalities

03:09 Jared Brock's Journey and Background

06:04 Exploring the Book: A Devil Named Lucifer

08:56 Understanding the Nature of Evil

11:46 The Misconceptions of Satan

14:47 The Devil's Influence and Human Agency

18:02 Footholds and Strongholds in Life

21:06 Possession and the Nature of Demons

23:55 Revelation and the Cycle of History

26:58 Freedom vs. Autonomy

27:56 The Paradox of Freedom and Autonomy

29:15 Understanding the Devil's Influence Today

30:13 The Role of Exorcism in Christianity

32:39 Discernment Between Mental Illness and Demonic Influence

34:55 The Economic and Social Implications of Evil

36:28 The False Gods of Modern Society

39:16 The Satanic Nature of Economic Systems

41:34 Using Adversity for Growth

43:55 Right-Sizing God and the Devil

48:45 Liberation as a Christian Mission

Links:

https://www.jaredbrock.com

Summary

In this episode of the Right Side Up podcast, host Danielle Strickland and guest Alexia Salvatierra discuss the current state of immigration in America, focusing on the challenges faced by immigrants and refugees. Salvatierra shares her extensive experience in immigration advocacy and highlights the drastic changes in policies that have made it increasingly difficult for individuals seeking asylum and temporary protected status. The conversation delves into the legal processes surrounding immigration, the implications of recent executive orders, and the political motivations behind anti-immigrant sentiment.

Salvatierra emphasizes the importance of recognizing the contributions of immigrants to society and advocates for a humane and ethical immigration system. In this conversation, Alexia Salvatierra and Danielle Strickland explore the themes of fear, faith, and the role of immigrant communities in the current socio-political landscape. They discuss the metaphor of an uncontained fire to illustrate the fear politicians face, the importance of faith in overcoming fear, and the revival brought by immigrant churches. They emphasize the need for Christians to act with courage and sacrifice, support immigrant communities, and seek trusted voices amidst misinformation.

The conversation calls for a collective movement towards love and understanding, urging listeners to engage with and support those in need.

Takeaways

Alexia Salvatierra has been involved in immigration advocacy for over 45 years.

Current immigration policies are unprecedented and draconian.

Temporary protected status is being removed for many vulnerable individuals.

Legal processes for asylum seekers are being undermined.

Venezuelan refugees face unique challenges due to their government's refusal to accept them back.

The immigration system is broken, with limited pathways for legal entry.

Deferred deportation status is now a priority for deportation.

Political motivations often drive anti-immigrant sentiment.

Immigrants contribute significantly to the economy and society.

A humane immigration system is essential for the country's prosperity. The experience of an uncontained fire symbolizes political fear.

Faith can help us overcome fear and take action.

Immigrant churches play a crucial role in spiritual revival.

Moving towards those we fear can lead to understanding.

Courage and sacrifice are essential for Christians today.

Building relationships with immigrant churches is vital.

We must support those in crisis as brothers and sisters.

Finding trusted voices is crucial in navigating misinformation.

Liberation comes from understanding and embracing others.

Asking good questions can lead to meaningful action.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Immigration Issues in America

01:25 Alexia Salvatierra's Background and Experience

03:49 Current State of Immigration Policies

06:47 Understanding Temporary Protected Status

10:00 Legal Processes and Their Implications

12:52 The Situation of Venezuelan Refugees

14:27 The Broken Immigration System

18:21 Deferred Deportation and Dreamers

22:20 The Political Landscape of Immigration

26:57 Ethical Immigration Practices

29:47 The Uncontained Fire: A Metaphor for Political Fear

32:25 Faith Over Fear: A Biblical Perspective

35:55 The Role of Immigrant Churches in Revival

39:51 Moving Towards the Stranger: A Call to Action

46:39 Courage and Sacrifice: The Christian Response

51:41 Building Bridges: Supporting Immigrant Communities

57:05 Finding Trusted Voices: Navigating Misinformation

Links:

https://www.juntosencristo.org

https://worldrelief.org

https://www.pcusa.org/about-pcusa/agencies-entities/interim-unified-agency/ministry-areas/immigration-issues

https://www.umc.org/en/how-we-serve/social-issues/immigration

https://www.catholiccharitiesusa.org/what-we-do/immigration-services/

http://www.alexiasalvatierra.com/media.html

SummaryIn this conversation, Danielle Strickland and James explore the themes of the Gospels, particularly focusing on the book of John. They discuss the unique characteristics of each Gospel, the concept of the Cosmic Christ, and the radical identification of Christ with human suffering. The dialogue delves into the significance of creation, the essence of God as love, and the importance of seeing Jesus as the ultimate revelation of God. They emphasize the need to rediscover Jesus beyond traditional interpretations and to understand the profound implications of His incarnation.

Takeaways

* Each Gospel has its unique style and message.

* John's introduction is a poetic reflection on creation.

* The concept of the Cosmic Christ connects all matter to Jesus.

* Christ's incarnation signifies God's solidarity with the oppressed.

* The light of Christ brings order to chaos and new beginnings.

* All people are created in the image of God, challenging hierarchical views.

* God's essence is love, as revealed through Jesus.

* Understanding Jesus is key to understanding God.

* The Bible points to Jesus as the Word of God.

* Rediscovering Jesus can transform our understanding of scripture.

Titles

* The Gospels Unveiled: A Journey Through John

* The Cosmic Christ: Light in Darkness

Sound Bites

* "John's like an art film."

* "The word became flesh."

* "God is love."

Chapters

00:00Exploring the Gospels: A Unique Perspective

03:21The Cosmic Christ: Understanding John 1

06:21Radical Identification: Christ and Human Suffering

09:15Creation and New Beginnings: The Light of Christ

12:17The Essence of God: Glory and Revelation in Christ

15:08The Nature of God: Love and the Incarnation

18:03Rediscovering Jesus: The Word of God

21:04The Power of Poetry: Advent Reflections

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SummaryIn this episode of the Right Side Up podcast, Danielle Strickland and James explore the Gospel of Luke, emphasizing the importance of perspective in understanding scripture. They celebrate the voices of women in the Advent story, particularly through the lens of pregnancy as a metaphor for discipleship. The conversation delves into the vulnerability of the Nativity, the flow of power in the biblical narrative, and the revolutionary message of Mary's song. They also discuss the need for transformation in how we view power dynamics and the significance of the Nativity Project, which offers a fresh perspective on the Christmas story.

Takeaways

* Perspective matters in understanding scripture.

* Women's voices are often marginalized in biblical narratives.

* Pregnancy can be a metaphor for discipleship and surrender.

* The Nativity story highlights vulnerability and strength.

* The flow of power in Luke's Gospel subverts traditional hierarchies.

* Mary's song is a revolutionary message of hope and justice.

* Decolonizing the Bible involves recognizing different perspectives.

* The invitation to transformation is open to everyone.

* Art and storytelling can enrich our understanding of scripture.

* The Nativity Project offers a fresh perspective on the Christmas story.

Titles

* The Right Side Up Podcast: Advent Perspectives

* Celebrating Women's Voices in the Nativity

* Pregnancy and Discipleship: A New Lens

Sound Bites

* "We're putting the vent in advent."

* "Perspective really matters."

* "Mary's perspective is key."

* "What about the men?"

* "God speaks through wombs."

* "The invitation is open to you."

Chapters

00:00Introduction to the Right Side Up Podcast

00:48The Importance of Perspective in Understanding Scripture

02:32Celebrating Women's Voices in the Advent Story

05:47Pregnancy as a Metaphor for Discipleship

10:04The Vulnerability of the Nativity

15:39Decolonizing the Bible: The Flow of Power in Luke

20:05Mary's Song: A Revolutionary Message

26:11The Invitation to Transformation

32:13Exploring the Nativity Project

KeywordsAdvent, Gospels, Jesus, Mark, Good News, John the Baptist, Non-Compliance, Resistance, Social Transformation, Wilderness

SummaryIn this episode, Danielle Strickland and James Sholl explore the themes of Advent through the lens of the Gospel of Mark. They discuss the fast-paced nature of Mark's writing, the political implications of the good news, and the role of John the Baptist as a figure of resistance. The conversation emphasizes the importance of non-compliance and individual action in the face of empire, as well as the transformative power of the wilderness. They also delve into scriptural references and the call to social transformation inherent in the good news of Jesus.

Takeaways

* Advent is a time of progressive revelation of Jesus.

* Mark's Gospel is characterized by its immediacy and urgency.

* The good news subverts the empire's narrative.

* John the Baptist embodies radical non-compliance.

* Non-compliance can be a powerful form of resistance.

* Individual actions can lead to collective change.

* The wilderness serves as a training ground for transformation.

* Scriptural context enriches our understanding of the message.

* The good news calls for both personal and social transformation.

* Living out the good news requires intentional resistance to the status quo.

Titles

* Adventing Through the Gospels

* Mark: The Gospel of Urgency

Sound Bites

* "Mark just gets on with it."

* "I refuse to comply."

* "There's more adventing to come."

Chapters

00:00Adventing: A New Perspective on the Season

06:17John the Baptist: The Rebel Voice

11:48Resistance Training: Embracing the Wilderness

17:54The Call to Transformation and Justice

23:27Baptism: A Declaration of Social Transformation

29:30Finding Freedom in Resistance

32:54Introduction to the Conversation

32:54Exploring Personal Growth and Transformation

KeywordsAdvent, Jesus, Gospels, Matthew, Genealogy, Inclusion, Women, Faith, Community, Theology

SummaryIn this conversation, Danielle Strickland and James Sholl explore the significance of Advent and the different ways the Gospels introduce Jesus. They discuss the context of Jesus' birth, the genealogy presented in Matthew, and the cultural implications of these narratives. The conversation emphasizes the role of women in the genealogy, the complexity of biblical stories, and the radical inclusion of marginalized voices in the narrative of Jesus. The hosts encourage listeners to reflect on their own faith journeys and the communal aspects of spirituality.

Takeaways

* Advent symbolizes the light emerging and the unveiling of Christ.

* The context of Jesus' birth reflects a time of great political fear and oppression.

* The genealogy in Matthew serves to place Jesus within the story of God's people.

* Cultural perspectives can enrich our understanding of the Gospel narratives.

* Women in the genealogy of Jesus challenge patriarchal norms and highlight God's inclusivity.

* Biblical characters should be seen as mirrors reflecting our own complexities.

* God sees and includes all people, regardless of their past.

* The genealogy of Jesus emphasizes the importance of community and ancestry.

* Radical inclusion is a central theme in the introduction of Jesus.

* The stories of marginalized individuals are crucial to understanding the fullness of the Gospel.

Titles

* Exploring Advent: The Gospels and Jesus

* The Context of Jesus' Birth: A Historical Perspective

Sound Bites

* "Familiarity breeds contempt."

* "This is a story of stories."

* "Happy Advent!"

Chapters

00:00Introduction to Advent and Its Significance

06:04Exploring the Genealogy of Jesus

11:53The Role of Community in Faith

17:57The Complexity of Faith and Community

24:21Theological Significance of Inclusion

30:09The God Who Sees: Acknowledging the Marginalized

35:37The Challenge of Genealogy: Us vs. Them

39:17New Chapter

This season of The Right Side Up is drawing to a close, and we are thrilled to welcome a dear mentor for so many of us, theologian Scot McKnight, to speak on Mary. Scot has written extensively about the empowerment of women in the church and the significance of Mary in the biblical narrative. In this conversation he also speaks to the erasure of women's voices throughout church history. We explore Scot's personal journey in understanding women's roles in ministry, he offers advice for male leaders, and emphasizes the importance of intentional action to create a more inclusive church environment. Expect to hear a lot about Mary's influence on Jesus and her role as a prototype of discipleship. This one really sums it all up.

Show Notes

Link to order the book: Need to Know: Empowering Female Leadership and Why It’s Essential for the Future of the Church

Ben Wildflower’s Magnificat Print: https://benwildflower.com/products/magnificat-print

takeaways

* The empowerment of women is essential for the future of the church.

* Mary's role in the biblical narrative is often overlooked.

* The erasure of women's voices in church history is a significant issue.

* Male leaders need to take intentional action to support women in ministry.

* Mary serves as a prototype of what it means to bear Christ.

* The Magnificat is a politically subversive text that has even been banned in some contexts.

* Women should be represented in leadership roles to change church dynamics.

* Intentional inclusion of women's stories is crucial for a balanced narrative.

* The church must recognize and celebrate the contributions of women.

Sound Bites

* "We, especially white men, often need to move over and get replaced by women."

* "Mary is the first prototype of a Christian."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

05:33 The Erasure of Women from the Church's History

08:44 Scot's Journey and Changing Views on Women in Leadership

13:29 Advice for Male Leaders in a Patriarchal World

20:05 The Importance of Mary's Song and the Erasure of Women's Stories

26:28 The Significance of Mary in the Biblical Narrative

32:46 Mary as the Prototype of a Christian

38:22 Mary's Struggle and the Importance of Her Example

43:26 Conclusion and Blessing of Danielle's Leadership

In this episode of Need to Know we welcome book contributors Liz Ríos and Lisa Rodriguez-Watson to discuss resistance against empire, and embracing the confrontation of the Jesus-way. We explore the lived experiences of women leaders, the role of resistance against oppressive structures, and the significance of listening to marginalized voices. Liz and Lisa each emphasize the necessity of love, community, and the rejection of fear even as we deal with those who don’t agree with us, as we move towards a flourishing church.

Show Notes

Link to order the book: Need to Know: Empowering Female Leadership and Why It’s Essential for the Future of the Church

takeaways

* Women’s empowerment is essential for the flourishing of the church.

* Collaborative leadership is necessary to counteract the influence of empire.

* Listening to marginalized voices is vital for understanding the impact of empire.

* Resistance against oppressive structures is ongoing work.

* Maintaining grace and hope is important for leaders facing challenges.

* The church's decline is often due to a failure to embrace justice and inclusivity.

* Love and community are foundational for church growth and health.

* Education and awareness are critical for understanding the complexities of leadership.

keywords

church leadership, empowerment of women, collaborative leadership, resistance, allies, voices from the margins, Billy Graham rule, community, love, justice

Sound Bites

* "The church needs women."

* "Don't be afraid."

* "The empire runs on fear."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Need to Know book

03:28 The Impact of Empire and the Kingdom Way of Doing Things

06:32 Collaborative Leadership and the Need for Change

10:46 The At Odds Nature of Empire and the Church

16:31 Choosing Life and Undoing the Co-Opting of the Church

19:07 Shifting the DNA of the Church and Fostering Community

21:23 The Importance of Love and Following Jesus

26:49 The Holy Work of Resistance

28:08 Subverting Tokenism and Embracing Real Influence

29:15 Challenging the Billy Graham Rule and Fear-Based Mindsets

33:39 Education, Awareness, and Listening as Tools for Change

On this episode of the Right Side Up podcast, we finally talk about the Apostle Paul and his issues with women. We are joined by our good friends Lucy Peppiatt and Aaron White, who discuss Aaron’s contributions to the book based upon Lucy’s scholarship and theology. We delve into the complexities and often misunderstood teachings of Paul regarding women, discussing how these scriptures have been weaponized and misinterpreted. Lucy emphasizes the importance of viewing Scripture with a holistic and contextual lens, and being honest about the things we just don’t understand in Paul’s letters. We call once again for men to be allies and for the church to embrace a fuller understanding of gender equality as part of its mission for the future.

Show Notes

Link to order the book: Need to Know: Empowering Female Leadership and Why It’s Essential for the Future of the Church

Learn more about Lucy, the school she leads, and her books.

keywords women in ministry, biblical scholarship, paul, culture, context, early church, women leaders, theology, allies

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Right Side Up Podcast

00:53 Meet the Hosts and Guests

02:01 Discussing Paul's Views on Women

06:26 Reinterpreting Paul's Teachings

15:24 Challenges of Women in Leadership

19:39 Men's Role in Supporting Women

23:49 Engaging with Difficult Scriptures

29:32 Reflecting on a Friend's Life and Legacy

30:22 Lucy's Work and Its Impact

30:46 Youth Camp and Challenging Verses

32:06 Invitation to Deeper Understanding

34:44 Launching the Need to Know Book

35:52 The Role of Allies

37:33 Humility in Scriptural Interpretation

39:49 Confronting Difficult Passages

46:35 Hope for Change and Future Generations

51:33 Lucy's Current and Future Projects

54:52 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

We’re back with Episode 8 of the Need to Know season, digging deeper into the women who are overlooked in church history, especially the time of the Patriarchs and the Early Church. Our guests are Julie Faith Parker, and Anita Giardina Lee, both contributors to Need To Know, the book. They share about the historical contributions of women, the importance of rediscovering their stories, and how these narratives can reshape the future of the church. We emphasize the need for the inclusion of women’s voices and the power of all marginalized voices being welcomed in redefining discipleship and church leadership in this next era of the church. You’ll also hear of groundbreaking new research into Mary Magdalene, and what that means for our imagination of the apostles.

Show Notes

Link to order the book: Need to Know: Empowering Female Leadership and Why It’s Essential for the Future of the Church

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All women mentioned in the Bible: womeninthebible.org

keywords women in ministry, discipleship, early church, genealogy of Jesus, marginalized voices, church history, women leaders, faith, theology, church reimagining

takeaways

* Women have been active in ministry as long as men.

* Rediscovering women's roles in the early church is crucial.

* Discipleship examples from women in the Bible are abundant.

* The domestic sphere was central to early church leadership.

* Jesus' genealogy includes radical figures like Tamar and Rahab.

* The erasure of women's stories in church history is problematic.

* We must reclaim the narratives of our foremothers.

* Marginalized voices should be at the center of church discussions.

* This generation can build on the legacy of women in faith.

* Reimagining the church involves acknowledging and including diverse voices.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction: Need to Know

01:15 Julie's Chapter: Addressing the Abuse of Women in the Bible

09:08 Anita's Chapter: The Erasure of Women in Church History

10:42 The Early Church and the Domestic Sphere

12:36 The Church's Reinvention Every 500 Years

15:17 The Power of Hospitality and Relationships in the Church

24:02 The Importance of Telling Women's Stories in the Bible

26:21 The Bible as a Catalyst for Deeper Thinking and Change

29:53 Rediscovering the Stories of Women in the Church

31:26 Challenging the Erasure of Women's Contributions

32:36 The Potential of Embracing Women's History

34:44 Empowering Women to Speak and Lead

37:58 The Consequences of Treating Women Badly

42:38 Reimagining the Church: Embracing Inclusivity and Equity

44:26 Women Leading the Reimagination of the Church

49:56 Mary the Tower: A Prominent Apostolic Witness

52:13 God's Design for the Church

The amazing Beth Allison Barr joins us to share her contribution towards Need To Know: the historical prevalence of women leading in the church. We discuss her journey as a historian and a woman in the church herself, including the strong pushback she receives. You’ll hear some personal narratives that shape these discussions, as well as the challenges faced by those who speak out against patriarchal structures. We review the importance of allies in advocating for an end to women's subjugation within Christianity, and emphasize the need for male leaders to listen to and support women in ministry.

Show Notes

Link to order the book: Need to Know: Empowering Female Leadership and Why It’s Essential for the Future of the Church

keywords

Biblical Womanhood, Empowerment, Church Leadership, Allies, Personal Narratives, Future of the Church, Male Leaders, Women in Ministry, Patriarchy

takeaways

* Beth Allison Barr's books address the subjugation of women in the church.

* Personal narratives are crucial for understanding the impact of church teachings.

* Speaking up for women often comes with significant personal costs.

* Allies play a vital role in supporting women's empowerment in the church.

* The church's future depends on the inclusion of women's voices.

* Men in leadership should listen to women's experiences and concerns.

* Women have historically played significant roles in church leadership.

* The narrative of women's subjugation is deeply rooted in church history.

* There is hope for a transformative future in the church.

Sound Bites

* "The subjugation of women became gospel."

* "The devil hates women, and he should."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Book Discussion

10:03 Writing the Book and Facing Reactions

19:22 What Male Leaders Need To Do

27:13 Awakening in Men: Moving Beyond Defense

31:59 Marriage and Ministry: Challenging the Narrative

42:36 Exposing Patriarchal Power Dynamics in the Church

In this episode of the Right Side Up we welcome our good friend and frequent collaborator Jo Saxton, to discuss the critical gaps in women’s empowerment in a wide variety of church roles. We explore the growing disillusionment many influential women feel within the church, the importance of allies, and the need for diverse voices in leadership. Our conversation highlights the impact of cultural norms on women's identities and the erasure of women's contributions to church history. We also touch on the prevalence of abuse and toxic culture within church settings and emphasize the importance of listening to women's stories. This is yet another call for hope and restoration for women in the church, especially encouraging leaders to recognize and celebrate the gifts and contributions of the women right in front of them.

Show Notes

Link to order the book: Need to Know: Empowering Female Leadership and Why It’s Essential for the Future of the Church

keywords

women empowerment, church leadership, identity, allies, church history, listening, cultural norms, abuse, restoration, hope

takeaways

* The empowerment of women is essential for the future of the church.

* Allies play a crucial role in supporting women's leadership.

* Understanding women's identity in scripture is vital for church leaders.

* There is a significant disconnect between women and the church.

* Listening to women's stories is key to understanding their experiences.

* Raising women up in leadership requires intentionality and support.

* Cultural norms often limit women's roles in the church.

* The erasure of women in church history needs to be addressed.

* Diverse voices in leadership enrich the church community.

* Addressing abuse and toxic culture is necessary for healing and restoration.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and the Need for Women's Leadership

02:02 The Biblical Foundation for Women's Equality

08:16 Women Leaving the Church

14:30 Tools for Empowering Women

26:28 The Impact of Not Seeing Women as They Were Designed to Be

28:22 Addressing Abuse and Toxic Behaviors in Leadership

30:09 Redeeming Women's Identities and Restoring the Church

36:17 The Power of Listening to Women's Voices

39:52 Finding Hope in Embracing Our True Identities

In this episode we welcome Need to Know contributors Mariah Humphries and Carolyn Whatley, to discuss the role of gender empowerment and cultural awareness in building a flourishing future church. From an Indigenous and Indigenous-informed perspective, they share about the importance of lamenting injustices, the need for diverse voices in leadership, and how men can become allies in supporting women. We reflect on the necessity of personal spiritual transformation and the responsibility of individuals to engage wholeheartedly in these discussions. You’ll also find many resources and recommendations to continue your journey.

Show Notes

Link to order the book: Need to Know: Empowering Female Leadership and Why It’s Essential for the Future of the Church

keywords

Need to Know, empowerment, women in church, cultural awareness, allyship, lament, healing, diversity, inclusion, spiritual transformation

takeaways

* Empowerment of women is crucial for a flourishing church.

* Allies play a significant role in supporting women and marginalized voices.

* Lamenting injustices is essential for healing within the church.

* The future church must embrace diversity and inclusion.

* Spiritual transformation is a personal responsibility.

* Men need to actively support women in leadership roles.

* Diverse voices and perspectives are vital for a healthy church.

* Reading works by diverse authors can enhance understanding and empathy.

* The Need to Know book serves as a resource for leaders seeking to create equitable spaces.

Sound Bites

* "There has to first be lament over injustice."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to 'Need to Know' and the Authors

07:46 The Future of the Church and the Importance of Lament

14:12 Men's Emotions and the Healing of the Church

31:05 Prioritizing Growth and Change Over Comfort in the Church

31:37 The Beauty of Humility and Backtracking

32:15 Embracing Discomfort and Reflecting on Marginalized Voices

33:39 Addressing Fragility and Shifting Mindsets

36:00 Diversifying Reading and Amplifying Marginalized Voices

37:27 The Role of Male Leaders in Creating an Inclusive Church

In this episode, we feature a special guest who did not contribute to the book, Need to Know: Paul Young. Well-known as the author of The Shack, Eve, and other books, Paul has always impressed me as someone who truly values and elevates women. We discuss the power of storytelling, the role of women in the church, and the importance of truth-telling for pastors. Paul shares his powerful personal story detailing how women were safer figures for him than men, the impact of early childhood trauma on his faith, and the need for authenticity in leadership. We also explore metaphors for God and the rehabilitation of Eve’s reputation in the Biblical narrative.

Show Notes

Link to order the book: Need to Know: Empowering Female Leadership and Why It’s Essential for the Future of the Church

keywords

Need to Know, Paul Young, The Shack, Eve, women in the church, storytelling, trauma, faith, authenticity, theology, redemption

takeaways

* Women play a crucial role in the future of the church.

* Trauma can significantly impact one's faith and identity.

* Authenticity in leadership is essential for church growth.

* Truth-telling is vital for pastors to foster genuine connections.

* The metaphors we use for God shape our understanding of God.

* Eve's story highlights the need for women's empowerment.

* Healing and restoration are necessary for personal and communal growth.

* Community and connection are vital for overcoming trauma.

* Men must become allies in the movement for women's flourishing in the church.

Sound Bites

* "The unexposed is the unhealed."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

03:23 The Power of Fiction and Storytelling

07:35 Encountering God Outside of Traditional Beliefs

09:57 Questioning Assumptions and Theology

13:46 The Impact of The Shack and Authenticity in Art

18:49 Healing and Personal Growth as a Foundation for Writing

20:27 Navigating Success and Criticism

27:32 Exploring Women's Stories and Challenging Traditional Beliefs

28:30 The Power of Metaphors in Shaping Our Understanding of God

31:47 Challenging Gender and Racial Stereotypes in 'The Shack'

37:02 Confronting Brokenness and Embracing Love and Humility

38:11 Addressing the Damage of Abuse and Creating a Healthier Church

45:34 Advice for Male Pastors: Truth-Telling, Challenging Doctrines, and Prioritizing Love

51:44 A word to the perpetrators

Up next on the Need to Know season of The Right Side Up podcast, we discuss clergy sexual abuse. This episode includes content that may be difficult to hear for some people, so we encourage you to listen to your body as you engage with this important topic. Our guests are book-contributors Lori Anne Thompson and Angela Lam. Lori Anne shares her personal journey of writing about her experiences with clergy abuse, the challenges of confronting such trauma, and the importance of sharing narratives to foster understanding and empathy. Angela speaks to the role of church leadership in addressing abuse, the bravery of survivors, and the need for systemic change within religious institutions. We reflect on the significance of spiritual reckoning, accountability, and the hope for healing and resurrection amidst darkness.

Show Notes

Link to order the book: Need to Know: Empowering Female Leadership and Why It’s Essential for the Future of the Church

Recommended Resources On Clergy Sexual Abuse

Limited Series

Shiny Happy People on Amazon Prime : while showcasing an very conservative strain of Christianity, the subtlety of spiritual manipulation, the effects of purity culture and the “group think” that allows/protects abuse to happen in plain sight are seen in far broader contexts in modern evangelical Christianity

Keep Sweet, Pray & Obey on Netflix: speaks to the coercive power of religious authority and the compliance training women especially have been subjected to. This series is a radical case of both but this actually makes it easier to see. The same roots of these things (coercive power and compliance training of women) are deeply embedded in the dynamics we’re seeing play out in all Christian denominations

The Secrets of Hillsong by FX on Hulu: demonstrates the systemic nature of how abuses of various types are normalized to such a degree that the general populace is somewhat inoculated to seeing it.

BooksThe #MeToo Reckoning: Facing the Church Complicity in Sexual Abuse and Misconduct#ChurchToo: How Purity Culture Upholds Abuse and How to Find HealingA Church Called Tov: Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power & Promotes HealingRedeeming Power: Understanding Authority & Abuse in the ChurchWhen Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community from Emotional and Spiritual Abuse

Websites

http://www.clergysexualmisconduct.com/http://www.adultsabusedbyclergy.org/https://www.hagarsvoice.com/

Articles

Clergy Sexual Abuse as Moral Injury: Confronting a Wounded and Wounding ChurchDisabusing the Church (the value of trauma-informed churches)

Social Media Feeds

https://www.instagram.com/religious.harm.recovery/https://www.instagram.com/restoredvoicescollective/https://www.instagram.com/brokentobeloved/

episode keywords

clergy abuse, personal narrative, resilience, faith, accountability, survivors, church leadership, trauma, healing, hope

takeaways

* Writing about trauma requires descending into painful experiences.

* Identifying with the crucified Christ helps in understanding clergy abuse.

* Sharing personal narratives can cultivate empathy in others.

* Bravery in confronting abuse often comes with immense personal cost.

* Church leadership must prioritize accountability over self-protection.

* Systemic change is necessary to address the culture of abuse.

* Spiritual reckoning is essential for healing within the church.

* Understanding betrayal trauma is crucial for recognizing abuse.

* Hope and resurrection can emerge from the darkest experiences.

* Leaders are invited to break ranks and stand with survivors.

Sound Bites

* "Writing was an ascent into an incredibly dark and painful personal hell."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Overview

01:59 Angela Lam's contributions and background

06:18 Lori Anne Thompson's Lived Experience and Contribution to the Book

11:17 Reading an Impactful Excerpt from Lori Anne Thompson's Chapter

14:36 The Power of Narrative and Identifying with the Crucified Christ

23:31 The Shift in Public Response and the Importance of Media Coverage

25:17 Encouragement for Survivors and Allies

29:00 Breaking Ranks: Challenging the Status Quo

38:42 The Crucifixion of Jesus: Exposing Systems of Evil

55:37 The Invitation to Stand with Jesus: Finding Hope in Resurrection

Happy Thursday! Continuing the Need to Know season of The Right Side Up podcast, today we get into our first conversation with two contributors to the book. My dear friend Bob Ekblad is joined by Janet Munn, an author, speaker and leader in the Salvation Army. In this conversation, we explore the intersection of gender, power, and faith within the church. We reflect on need for a reimagined understanding of God that transcends traditional male-centric views. What is the church’s history of female leadership? What power dynamics distort equality today? How do allies get involved? Find answers to all those questions and more.

Show Notes

Link to order the book: Need to Know: Empowering Female Leadership and Why It’s Essential for the Future of the Church

Keywords

God, gender, power, church, leadership, women, equality, community, advocacy, nonviolence

Takeaways

* God is described as both male and female in scripture.

* The distortion of power dynamics harms both men and women.

* Women must be empowered to lead and serve in the church.

* The church needs to reimagine its structures to be more inclusive.

* Active nonviolence is essential in addressing social injustices.

* Voices of women are crucial for the health of the church.

* Encouragement to persist in advocacy for gender equality.

* The original biblical narrative supports mutuality between genders.

* Jesus' choice of women as the first witnesses to the resurrection is significant.

* Allies are needed to help amplify women's voices in the church.

Sound Bites

* "God is not male."

* "We need allies who will help us."

* "Distortion of power causes great damage."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Need to Know season and the book

01:55 Reimagining God's Gender

09:39 The Gap Between Theory and Practice

24:08 Rethinking Power and Spiritual Authority

34:16 Practical Steps for Gender Equity

42:04 Holding Leaders Accountable and Leaving Spaces that Do Not Value Women

46:24 Reimagining Church Structures and Systems

Friends! Welcome to the Need to Know season of The Right Side Up. This season is all about supporting the forthcoming compilation book, Need to Know: Empowering Female Leadership and Why It’s Essential for the Future of the Church. In this introductory episode I share why empowering women is so important for the future of the church. You’ll hear me emphasize the importance of collaboration between men and women, the need for systemic change, and the role of theology in promoting gender equity. I reflect on the historical context of female leadership, the challenges of addressing abuse within church systems, and the necessity of honest hope and lament in the journey towards transformation.

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keywords

female leadership, church, empowerment, theology, equity, abuse, collaboration, hope, transformation, systemic change

takeaways

Empowering female leadership is essential for the future of the church.

Cultural awareness is crucial for understanding gender dynamics.

The cost of allyship can be surprising for men.

Theology plays a significant role in gender equity discussions.

Church systems often perpetuate abuse and harm.

Historical examples, like the Salvation Army, show the impact of female leadership.

Collaboration between genders is vital for church growth.

Honest hope requires acknowledging and lamenting past injustices.

Transformation involves a deep personal and collective metanoia.

Listening and learning are the first steps towards living differently.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction: The Need to Know

02:27 The Cost and Challenges of Empowering Female Leadership

06:09 The Interconnectedness of Power, Empire, and Leadership

08:01 The Importance of Doing Exegetical Work on Women

11:20 The Historical Role of Women in the Church

18:48 A Call to Repentance, Learning, and Living Differently

Bob is someone I have long admired for his witness of the ways of Jesus. He talks with us about his own story, the need to break allegiances with our dominant cultural idols (even national ones), and the ongoing journey of being faithful to Jesus in an age of rising nationalism disguised as Christianity. This is so eye opening and beautiful.

tierra-nueva.org

peoplesseminary.org

Wow. What is the perfect body anyway?! So many good questions and an invitation to explore disability from a Kingdom perspective. Fascinating, challenging, and always a little fun!

wellspringtoronto.ca

Aaron White: The Pedagogy of Education... Learning a curiously different way and the deep and wide academy.

How we think about thinking? Yep, kind of. Challenging assumptions of learning and the inflexible way we've made knowledge about sitting still and why there are better ways... a great discussion!

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Julie Faith Parker: Eve Isn't Evil - a feminist Old Testament Scholar helps us see the scriptures afresh! WOW. This is an eye opening conversation about how we've often viewed women (especially in the Old Testament) in ways that are not faithful to the text and have limited the Sacred story because of our own assumptions and prejudice. Get ready to be amazed and to get introduced to Eve Isn't Evil a new book that helps us explore the full range of women in the Bible! juliefaithparker.com

Micah is a gifted creative who hails from Long Beach, California. He is an incredible spoken word poet, a musician, and a speaker. I've shared the stage with Micah at many events around the world and have always been impacted by his faithful witness. Micah shares his journey, creative insights, and a lot on love. Don't miss this one! micahbournes.com

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The delightful and complicated journey out of patriarchy and how God sees women. Terran is South African. He is a gifted leader, church planter, bridge builder, and theologian. We catch up with his own story of awakening to the liberating good news from the scriptures and how that has lead him to help others and empower everyone! Incredibly insightful and exciting interview.

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