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Returning Guest: John Van Deusen (Bandcamp)
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Topics:
Genre-bending worship music (3:36)
Holy misfits (13:15)
Alternative Christian music scene (22:34)
Big tent vs. niche art (31:27)
Performative politics (43:40)
Zooming out and small lives (56:28)
Afterlife and nonexistence (1:14:05)
Previous Episode's with John Van Duesen:
"Chrisitan Music": John Van Duesen (#94)
Emergency Pod: Processing the Capitol Insurrection with John Van Deusen
Still Christian: Tyson Motsenbocker & John Van Deusen (#234)
Episode with Andy Squyres:
Worries About Progressive Christianity
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From CCM to Existential Coaching (#417)
Monday, September 21, 2026 • Duration 01:45:52
Guest: Brad Johnson (Paradox Coaching)
Topics:
Pastor's kid in Texas (3:07)
Christian music career (11:15)
Losing the church job (33:21)
The tree of knowledge (37:45)
Terror management theory (1:03:45)
Coaching versus therapy (1:14:38)
Accountability in coaching (1:23:33)
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Therapy vs. Coaching (#416)
Tuesday, September 8, 2026 • Duration 01:23:41
Guests: Josh Gilbert and Kristen Tideman
Topics:
Therapy vs. coaching (3:48)
Licensure and regulation (11:20)
Scope of practice (20:47)
Actionable plans (38:00)
Existential psychology (45:14)
Religious landscape expertise (52:00)
Trauma and self-diagnosis (58:27)
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Peak Youth Group Era with Tyler Huckabee (RELEVANT, Sojourners) (#415)
Monday, August 31, 2026 • Duration 01:18:32
Guest: Tyler Huckabee | Sojourners, RELEVANT Megazine
Tyler's Article | Reckoning With the Youth Group That Raised Us
Topics:
• Adolescent development (8:36)
• Columbine and martyrdom culture (14:45)
• Braveheart (25:00)
• Youth group as third space (31:44)
• Summer camp autonomy (37:45)
• Deficit-based views of teenagers (56:55)
• Doubt and the exvangelical wilderness (1:02:48)
• Trump and belief (1:09:10)
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Dan in the Hot Seat with Tripp Fuller (#414)
Monday, August 24, 2026 • Duration 46:59
Guest: Tripp Fuller (Homebrewed Christianity)
Topics:
• Cognitive-existential therapy (11:56)
• Self-deception & “ultimate concern” (27:06)
• ADHD & embodiment (31:09)
Patron Half
• “The Hell of the Same” (43:00)
• Wasting your life in every era (1:00:45)
• Christian bookstore CDs & punk rock (1:20:14)
• College Counseling & Young Adults (1:44:31)
• The dark magic of rock and roll (1:47:02)
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Is "Spirituality" the Best We Can Do? (#413)
Monday, August 17, 2026 • Duration 01:27:11
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Guest: Jay Michaelson (Both/And)
Topics:
Why "spirituality" makes a bad communicator (3:07)
Reb Zalman Schachter-Shalomi, and inventing God in our own image (5:04)
Psychedelics, myth-making, and religion as "proto peer review" (16:56)
The case for spirituality's broadness (32:04)
Crystals, gurus, and spotting spiritual abuse (38:07)
Peak experiences, Kierkegaard's leap of faith, and the trouble with certainty (59:07)
Previous Episode with Jay:
Rabbi and Journalist Jay Michaelson (#366)
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GGCH: Nolan’s Odyssey & Tony’s New Novel (#412)
Monday, August 10, 2026 • Duration 38:25
Guests: Tony Jones & Josh Gilbert (Generation Gap Culture Hour returns!)
Topics:
Culture roundup: alliteration bios, Son of Helena, dude lit & Lonesome Dove (1:58)
The Odyssey: theater reactions, IMAX chaos & the OCD popcorn guy (14:33)
Nolan's rewrite: war, Xenia & the Christianization of the Odyssey (23:11)
Patron Half Begins (35:44)
Casting choices: Helen, Elliot Page & the "DEI" debate (36:19)
Oral tradition, the Emily Wilson controversy & Nolan/Bond rumors (44:27)
Agamemnon's sacrifice, Isaac & OCD scrupulosity (54:54)
Writing historical fiction: polenta, plums & Constantine's conversion (1:03:22)
AI as research assistant: therapy, health & the future of work (1:16:12)
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Dan Passed the Exam! & a Timely Rebroadcast
Monday, August 3, 2026 • Duration 01:41:41
Episode #370 | Trusting Yourself After Religious Change
*Original Description *
To Trust Your Experience (Dustin Kensrue) (#38)
Is experience potentially a direct pathway to the God of the universe? Or is it simply “the heart [being] deceitful above all things”? Can we trust our spiritual experience, and if so, which experiences are trustworthy? This topic was recommended by my guest Dustin Kensrue (singer/songwriter of the band Thrice, former worship director at Mars Hill Church in Seattle), and I jumped at it. In today’s episode, we go through Dustin’s own story, from young Christian punk rocker, to prominent Neo-Calvinist, to church scandal whistleblower (sort of), to reconstructed liberal Christian, all the while considering the role of experience in that journey.
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A Jewish Sex Educator Reads the Gospel of Matthew (#411)
Monday, July 27, 2026 • Duration 01:21:39
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Guest: Jenn Mason (WinkWink Boutique)
Topics:
Growing up Jewish in a small rural town and rediscovering Judaism as an adult (1:43)
National media attention, antisemitic harassment, and finding a spiritual framework (6:26)
Why read the Gospels: side-eye toward Christianity and swimming in a Christian culture (10:57)
Softness, disability, and getting "off template" (24:53)
First impressions of Matthew: the Sermon on the Mount and Jesus at the center (34:23)
Anti-Pharisee texts, the Great Commission, and the religion of Jesus vs. Christianity (43:32)
Jenn on Instagram | @jenniferidamason
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“Conspirituality” & Wellness Culture (#410)
Monday, July 20, 2026 • Duration 40:12
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Guest: Valerie Martin (Gaia Center / But For Real Podcast)
Topics:
Tarot, astrology, and Valerie's path into new age spirituality (4:57)
Wellness coaching, MLM culture, and spiritual bypassing (10:53)
Cialdini's Influence: social proof and identity enmeshment (24:03)
Money, ethics, and the "Wild West" of spiritual coaching (31:24)
Patron Break
The Telepathy Tapes: facilitated communication and the case for and against (43:51)
Near-death experiences, psi phenomena, and the limits of a materialist brain (1:00:53)
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