Comedy, case law, chaos. Practicing attorney and TikTok gal @rebmasel breaks down bizarre, chaotic, and intriguing cases and anecdotes from the legal field you've (probably) never heard of. Listen to Reb's hilarious and informative takes on the weird, the awesome, the horrifying, the inspiring, and the everything-in-between happening inside and outside the courtroom.
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(WATCH THIS EPISODE ON YOUTUBE) What do you call a 6-week period in which you and a handful of very recent acquaintances get drunk every day at lunch, sleep through the afternoons, sell weed to each other, smoke weed with each other, and whip out a few bags of cocaine to snort when the time feels right?
For a group of twelve people in Florida in 1987, they would call it jury duty. That’s right. Since 1987, jury misconduct stories only got crazier and crazier...including one where a jury convicted a man of double homicide by breaking out a Ouija board and asking the victims' ghosts. Yep.
Reb tops off a martini and hosts a seance in Tanner v. United States (1987).
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0:00 - Intro
2:17 - Facts of Tanner v. United States
12:39 - Trial (Coke, Booze, and Court)
23:00 - Rule 606(b) and SCOTUS Majority Opinion
40:53 - SCOTUS Dissenting Opinion
54:11 - Juror misconduct still haunts us
56:19 - SCOTUS heard our complaints and ignored them<3
58:59 - Remedies for juror misconduct
1:01:10 - Case after case after case (Delusional, sleeping, drunk, racist jurors)
1:10:00 - The Ouija Board Jury
1:19:35 - Reb's Rebuttal
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27: The Lost Boys of Rikers Island
Season 1 · Episode 27
Thursday, July 18, 2024 • Duration 01:07:16
(WATCH THIS EPISODE ON YOUTUBE) In the early hours of Saturday, May 15, 2010, Kalief Browder and a friend were returning home from a party in the Belmont section of the Bronx. He was 16 years old. Browder saw a police car driving toward them. More squad cars arrived, and soon Browder and his friend were squinting in the glare of a police spotlight. An officer said they had robbed a man. “I didn’t rob anybody,” Browder replied. “You can check my pockets.” . . .
Reb shares the cases of Kalief Browder and Inmate H, and thousands of other children and adults held in pretrial detention in the United States without ever being convicted of a crime. Some people say cash bail “creates Hell on Earth.” You might just believe them.
**CONTENT WARNING** Violence against children
Links:
https://www.facebook.com/KaliefsLegacy?mibextid=LQQJ4d
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-case-for-cash-bail-reform/
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2:21 - Kalief Browder
14:45 - Rikers Island
17:33 - Pretrial Detention, Cash Bail, and Depravity
22:38 - Inmate H
31:29 - Rikers Island Origins / #CloseRikers
37:18 - Cash Bail Reform
45:45 - A Murderer, A R*pist, and A Traffic Violator
47:38 - Cash Bail Reform
57:40 - Reb's Rebuttal
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17: The Cadaver Meet And Greet
Season 1 · Episode 17
Saturday, December 2, 2023 • Duration 01:12:45
Plug your nose and cross your heart - a rotting corpse is on the stand. 1,126 years ago, Rome was going through Popes like napkins at a BBQ cook-off. Most of them were killed, tortured, maimed, spit on...by each other. Eventually, Desperate Housewives and the Catholic Church collided to exhume a body and strap him to a chair. Why did we put a dead body on trial in 897 AD...and again in 2013? Oh, and can you marry someone after you die? As always, Reb gives you the answers, blessings, and vengeance in Cadaver Synod.
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Special, special thank you to @tanicaesar at Unhinged History for having me on her pod in September 2023 to ramble about this case with vodka and laughter.
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18: The Airman Is Alive
Season 1 · Episode 18
Saturday, December 2, 2023 • Duration 01:31:28
Pararescue is the most highly decorated Air Force-enlisted force, executing the most perilous, demanding, and extreme rescue missions at anytime, anywhere around the globe. Their motto is: "These Things We Do, That Others May Live." Pararescue Staff Sergeant James D. Pou was so legendary, he became the "gold standard" for how the Air Force drills its trainees. He died a hero.
So why did the June 2, 1993 L.A. Times headline read: "Bigamist, Deserter Escapes From Air Force Brig"....? Grab a parachute and jump into the interstate scandal of one legendary Airman/escape artist, two wives, two affairs, five kids, one bank robbery, and a military prison break. Reb debriefs the military's very own "justice" system and why you can't lead a triple life if you can't keep your gun dry in U.S. v. Pou (1995).
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INTRO: 00:00 to 8:09
CASE BEGINS: 8:10
Alternate Title: These Things We Do, That Douglas May Live.
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16: The (Rhymes With Corn-O) Trolling Law Firm
Season 1 · Episode 16
Saturday, December 2, 2023 • Duration 02:24:58
Illinois attorneys John Steele and Paul Hansmeier had an X-rated dream: to represent the “little guys”. The wrongfully accused? The juvenile delinquents? The small businesses? Porn production companies, of course. What started out as a seemingly legitimate copyright business model snowballed into what Federal Judge Otis D. Wright II called “a porno trolling collective”. Yes, there are court transcripts.
Wolf of Wall Street meets Suits meets adult film stars meets iconic court transcripts. Hear Reb unzip the epic saga of Prenda Law and Ingenuity 13 LLC v. John Doe (2012).
INTRO: 00:00
CASE STARTS: 11:10
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Sources/Articles/Transcripts/Court Orders
Defense attorneys: Prenda litigation is 'unbelievable', 'just epic' - Washington Examiner (Dec. 23, 2012) (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/defense-attorneys-prenda-litigation-is-unbelievable-just-epic)
What Prenda Law is facing in Los Angeles - Ken White, Pope Hat (Mar. 6, 2013) (https://www.popehat.com/2013/03/06/what-prenda-law-is-facing-in-los-angeles/)
Copyright Troll Case Tossed For 'Fraud On The Court' After Abbott & Costello-Worthy Hearing - Mike Masnick, TechDirt (Dec. 3, 2012) (https://www.techdirt.com/2012/12/03/copyright-troll-case-tossed-fraud-court-after-abbott-costello-worthy-hearing/)
John Steele's Property Caretaker Intervenes in Copyright Trolling Case, Alleging Identity Theft - Mike Masnick, TechDirt (Dec. 7, 2012) (https://www.techdirt.com/2012/12/07/john-steeles-property-caretaker-intervenes-copyright-trolling-case-alleging-identity-theft/)
Prenda Law's Attorneys Take The Fifth Rather Than Answer Judge Wright's Questions - Ken White, Pope Hat (April 2, 2013) (https://www.popehat.com/2013/04/02/prenda-laws-attorneys-take-the-fifth-rather-than-answer-judge-wrights-questions/)
Deep Dive: Prenda Law Is Dead - Ken White, Pope Hat (April 2, 2013) (https://www.techdirt.com/2013/04/02/deep-dive-prenda-law-is-dead/)
Judge Orders Prenda Law Group Beamed Out Into Space - Lowering The Bar (May 7, 2013) (https://www.loweringthebar.net/2013/05/judge-orders-prenda-law-group-beamed-out-into-space.html)
Judge Wright's Sanctions Order (May 6, 2013), https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.popehat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/PendaSanctionsOrder.pdf
'Look, you may hate me': 90 minutes with John Steele, porn troll - Joe Mullin, ArsTechnica (May 10, 2013) (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/05/look-you-may-hate-me-90-minutes-with-john-steele-prenda-porn-troll/)
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15: The U-Haul Family Dynasty
Season 1 · Episode 15
Saturday, December 2, 2023 • Duration 01:49:25
Pro Tip: When you become a billionaire overnight, use protection (or get coup insurance). The true story of the U-Haul family feud that lasted 40 years (and counting). Listen to Reb dodge brotherly punches in Shoen v. Shoen (1993).
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14: The Penalty Is Death
Season 1 · Episode 14
Tuesday, September 5, 2023 • Duration 01:07:13
A prison break, the oldest biker gang in the world, 558 death sentences, a body in a river, and the man who tried to dodge death just to run straight into it. Twice. The Supreme Court in 1976 had no idea it would set off a chain of events worthy of a biopic and a newfound appreciation for Harley Davidsons, bro code, and a really catchy crime syndicate slogan.
Rev (Reb?) your engines. It's about to get bloody. The penalty is death in Gregg v. Georgia (1976).
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13: The Dirty Liars
Season 1 · Episode 13
Sunday, August 20, 2023 • Duration 01:18:17
Since 1969, the police have been legally allowed to lie to you. Yes, you. About anything. Anywhere and everywhere. And they do. All the time. One of their favorite tricks is to use the “false evidence ploy” to convince you to take a lesser guilty plea instead of risking a trial. Despite millions of guilty pleas entered in this country based on deception and misinformation, the Supreme Court has repeatedly held that it is okay for cops to be dirty liars. Reb teaches you when and how to shut your mouth as she runs through Frazier v. Cupp, Miranda v. Arizona, the "Interrogation Bible" used to train cops in the US, and the rights everyone should know how to exercise.
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SOURCES CITED:
"FROM FALSE EVIDENCE PLOY TO FALSE GUILTY PLEA: AN UNJUSTIFIED PATH TO SECURING CONVICTIONS" by Katie Wynbrandt, Yale Law Journal (2016)
"PUBLIC TRUST AND POLICE DECEPTION" by Julia Simon-Kerr, Northeastern University Law Review (2019)
Time Magazine Article: "Law Enforcement Experts on Why Police Shouldn't be Allowed to Lie to Suspects," by Saul Kassin (Dec. 16, 2022)
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12: The Smile And Wave, Boys (How To Get Away With Burglary)
Season 1 · Episode 12
Friday, August 11, 2023 • Duration 01:11:55
Never underestimate the power of a smile and a slow walk during a good old-fashioned B&E. Learn your way around the thin, thin lines between burglary, larceny, robbery, and Goldie Locks catching a felony charge. Reb unpacks why a burglary defendant with yard work to do got his conviction overturned in State v. Bertram (2023).
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11: The Kidnapper Who Sued His Hostages
Season 1 · Episode 11
Friday, July 28, 2023 • Duration 51:37
A fugitive wanted for murder stares at two newlyweds through a window on their back porch in Dover, Kansas on a Saturday morning in 2009. He makes them an offer: $10,000 to hide him, please. Cheetos, Dr. Pepper, and a Robin Williams movie seal the deal. Or did it? In State v. Dimmick, Reb begs you to either get it in writing or lock your door.
CASE STARTS: 4:50
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