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Signature #7: Risk – Why Playing It Safe Is the Riskiest Move18 août 202600:27:03

Success might be the biggest threat to your team's next bold move. Brian Taylor, Tim Foot, and Toni McEwan close the series with Signature #7: Risk — the difference between a reckless gamble and a strategic bet, and how to tell which one you're about to make.

Signature #6: Friction – Turning Team Friction Into Momentum14 juil. 202600:27:52

If your team has zero tension, you might not be as healthy as you think. In this episode of the Reaching for Remarkable Podcast, Tim Foot and Matt Wright join host Brooke Hodnefield to explore Signature #6: Friction — engaging healthy conflict for remarkable growth. They unpack two traps that quietly derail teams, introduce a simple green-yellow-red framework for keeping friction healthy, and share the exact questions leaders can ask to invite pushback without letting it turn personal. Whether you're leading a church staff, a nonprofit team, or your own family, this conversation will help you stop fearing tension and start using it to move your mission forward.

Signature #5: Systems – Build to Scale, Not Burn Out23 juin 202600:25:52

Leadership is full of people problems — or so it seems. But what if the real issue is something hiding right underneath the surface?

In this episode of the Reaching for Remarkable Podcast, host Brooke Hodnefield is joined by Tim Foot (CEO of Slingshot Group and author of Reaching for Remarkable), Phil Bowdle, and Sarah Riebe (COO of Slingshot Group) to unpack the fifth key signature: Systems.

They share the story of Slingshot's own "Bonkers Year" — 54% growth in a single year — and what happened when the systems couldn't keep up. From the complacency trap to the hero-dependency cycle, this conversation is a wake-up call for any leader whose team is working harder and harder but somehow falling further behind.

Whether you love systems or quietly avoid them, this episode will change the way you think about what's really holding your mission back.

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Signature #4: Roles – Why Your Mission Has to Be Bigger Than You26 mai 202600:30:29

You don't build a mission—you build people, and then people build the mission. But that only works when everyone knows their lane.

In this episode of the Reaching for Remarkable Podcast, Brian Taylor sits down with Slingshot CEO and author Tim Foot, along with Matt Wright and Toni McEwan, to explore the fourth key signature of a remarkable team: Roles.

They unpack why job descriptions aren't enough, how to give every seat a clear "win," and the three traps that quietly erode healthy teams—the echo chamber, the comfort hire, and the shiny object. You'll also hear why chasing the "purple unicorn" candidate backfires, and how a one-line job description can bring clarity to your whole staff.

Whether you lead a church or a nonprofit, this conversation will help you align your people, strengthen your culture, and keep your mission moving forward.

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Signature #3: Culture – Shaping the Soul of Your Team12 mai 202600:27:21

Every team has a culture — whether you've shaped it on purpose or not. In this episode of the Reaching For Remarkable Podcast, host Brooke Hodnefield is joined by Slingshot CEO and author Tim Foot, alongside VP of Nonprofit Executive Search Toni McEwan, for a candid conversation on the third key signature of remarkable teams: Culture. Together they unpack what really defines culture (hint: it's not what's on the wall), the early warning signs that culture is drifting, and how relational equity quietly builds — or breaks — trust over time. Tim names the cultural traps every leader needs to spot, Toni shares what candidates can feel the moment they walk into your organization, and both offer practical wisdom for moving from self-awareness to team awareness. If you sense something is off but can't quite name it, this conversation will help you lead with greater clarity, courage, and care.

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Signature #2: Message – Everything Communicates21 avr. 202600:25:42

Your team is always communicating—whether they realize it or not. Every email, every meeting, every silence is sending a message. So what happens when those messages don’t line up? In this episode of the Reaching For Remarkable Podcast, Brian Taylor sits down with Slingshot Group CEO and author Tim Foot, alongside communications expert Phil Bowdle, to unpack the second signature of a remarkable team: Message. They explore why the best teams treat communication like musicians treat sound, how assumption traps silently erode alignment, and what it looks like to build a culture where listening drives clarity. Whether you’re leading a growing staff or navigating a season of change, this conversation will challenge you to close the gap between what you’re saying and what your team is actually hearing.

 

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Signature #1: Conviction – Why Mission Statements Aren't Enough07 avr. 202600:27:42

Every organization has a mission statement. But is your team actually convicted by it? In this episode of Reaching For Remarkable, Brooke Hodnefield is joined by Tim Foot, CEO of Slingshot Group and author of Reaching for Remarkable, and Matt Wright, VP of Church Executive Search, to dig into the first key signature: Conviction.

They explore the critical difference between belief and conviction, unpack the traps that cause even well-meaning teams to lose focus, and talk about what happens when the leader's conviction doesn't make it past the corner office. If your team knows the mission but can't seem to gain real momentum, this episode will help you find out why—and what to do about it.

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Reaching For Remarkable – Introduction07 avr. 202600:20:30

In the debut episode of Reaching For Remarkable, Brian Taylor sits down with Tim Foot, CEO of Slingshot Group and author of Reaching For Remarkable, to unpack why so many teams get stuck at functional and never break through. Tim shares the story behind the book, introduces the 7 Key Signatures that set remarkable teams apart, and offers a fresh framework called "team awareness" that every leader needs. Whether you're building a team from scratch or trying to move your current team to the next level, this conversation will challenge you to stop settling and start reaching for remarkable.

Toni McEwan + Phil Bowdle – 5 Time Suckers Every Leader Faces14 oct. 202500:32:46

Every leader knows the feeling—your day disappears, but your mission hasn’t moved forward.

In this episode of the Slingshot Group Podcast, Tim Foot sits down with Toni McEwan and Phil Bowdle to unpack five time suckers every leader faces.

From inbox overload and people pleasing to lack of focus, control, and reactive leadership, they’ll help you spot what’s draining your time and energy—and how to take it back.

If you’ve been leading at full speed but feeling stuck, this conversation will help you slow down, refocus, and lead with clarity—because your remarkable mission deserves remarkable focus.

Dr. Wes Beavis – Recognizing & Recovering From Burnout02 sept. 202500:37:16

In this episode of the Slingshot Group Podcast, Tim Foot sits down with psychologist, former pastor, and author Dr. Wes Beavis to unpack the six stages of burnout that every leader should know. Drawing from both research and personal experience, Wes shares why leaders often miss the warning signs, how burnout impacts teams and organizations, and practical rhythms to prevent and recover from exhaustion. Whether you’re leading in a church, nonprofit, or the marketplace, this conversation will help you slow down, pay attention to the “dashboard,” and take steps toward health and sustainability in your leadership.

Dave Ferguson – Leadership That Outlasts You30 juil. 202500:35:47

What does it take to build something that lasts beyond your leadership? In this powerful conversation, Tim Foot sits down with Dave Ferguson to explore how intentional succession, apprenticeship, and multiplication shape the future of the church. Drawing from his own transition at Community Christian Church and his leadership of Exponential, Dave shares the do’s and don’ts of raising up new leaders, the barriers holding churches back from multiplying, and the hopeful signs of a movement led by risk-taking, permission-giving cultures. If you want to grow leaders, not just fill roles—this is the episode for you.

Steve Cuss – Thriving in the Relationships That Matter Most11 juin 202500:39:55

Leadership is all about relationships—and how we manage them can make or break our impact. In this episode of the Slingshot Group Podcast, Tim Foot is joined by pastor, author, and leadership consultant Steve Cuss to explore the five core relationships that shape every leader's journey.

From the often-overlooked relationship with yourself to the people who stretch you the most, Steve offers practical wisdom for navigating relational dynamics, reducing leadership anxiety, and building emotionally healthy teams. No matter your role or experience, this conversation will help you lead with greater self-awareness, clarity, and care.

Shane & Shane – Fighting Ego and Finding Community08 mai 202500:26:51

In this episode, we sit down with worship leaders and songwriters Shane Barnard and Shane Everett — known collectively as Shane & Shane — for an honest, funny, and deeply insightful conversation about life in ministry, the dangers of ego, and why community matters more than ever.

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Jena Dunay – Uncertainty, Layoffs, and Landing Your Dream Job01 avr. 202500:35:32

The workplace is shifting—and leaders are feeling the weight.

From rising expectations to navigating team transitions, it’s a challenging season to lead and to job hunt. In this episode, leadership coach and founder of Recruit the Employer, Jena Dunay, joins us to talk about what it looks like to lead well when everything feels uncertain.

We cover: ✨ The unrealistic pressure for leaders to meet every employee need 🧭 How to approach layoffs with clarity and compassion 💼 Why job seekers should reflect before rushing to update their resume 🌱 How to develop your team with transitions in mind

This conversation is full of practical insight and encouragement—whether you're leading a team or stepping into what's next.

Mac Lake – Developing Leaders Who Develop Others26 févr. 202500:41:50

What does it take to build a thriving leadership culture? Slingshot Group CEO Tim Foot sits down with Mac Lake, Founder of Multiply Group, to explore why leading yourself is the key to developing others.

Mac shares his journey as a young leader and his passion for equipping churches and nonprofits with strong leadership pipelines. With practical insights on personal growth, mentoring, and leadership challenges, this episode will inspire you to lead with greater impact.

Jim Burgen + Jesse DeYoung – Behind the Scenes of Leadership at Flatirons Church12 févr. 202500:59:36

In this episode, Jim Burgen and Jesse DeYoung from Flatirons Church pull back the curtain on leadership transitions, developing leaders from within, and the power of trust in executive roles. They reveal what’s working—and what they’ve learned the hard way in navigating conflict, prioritizing staff health, and the role of sabbaticals in sustaining long-term leadership. If you're leading in a church or nonprofit, this conversation is packed with practical takeaways for building a thriving, mission-driven team.

Mindy Caliguire – Ignite Your Soul28 janv. 202500:32:39

In this episode, Tim Foot is joined by Mindy Caliguire, co-founder and president of Soul Care, to tackle the often-overlooked need for soul care among leaders. Together, they discuss the six key practices outlined in Mindy’s book, Ignite Your Soul, and how these practices can restore leaders facing burnout and deepen their relationship with God.

Megan Fate Marshman – Relaxed & Walking With Jesus22 oct. 202400:33:21

In this episode, Megan Fate Marshman discusses the power of small acts of obedience, stewarding our stories to point to the Gospel, and allowing the message to transform us first. She also shares insights from her new book, Relaxed: Walking with the One Who's Not Worried About a Thing.

Joey Odom – "Let Me Put Down My Phone"01 oct. 202400:37:06

In this conversation, Tim Foot and Joey Odom explore the profound impact of digital distractions on personal relationships and leadership. Joey shares a pivotal moment from his life that sparked a passion for addressing the issue of phone dependency, leading to the creation of Aro, a digital wellness tool. They discuss the reality of our relationship with technology, the intimacy crisis it creates, and practical strategies for leaders to foster healthier habits and connections.

Jenni Catron – Building Teams With Thriving Culture11 sept. 202400:45:20

In this episode, we chat with Jenni Catron, leadership expert and CEO of The 4Sight Group. Jenni shares her insights on building healthy team culture, shaped by her experiences in the music industry and executive leadership roles. She offers practical advice on diagnosing team culture health, distinguishing toxic cultures from toxic leaders, and aligning values during the hiring process. Whether you're leading a team or looking to improve culture, this episode offers actionable insights to help you lead well.

Glenn Packiam – Lessons From Leadership Transition21 août 202400:31:55

In this episode, we chat with Glenn Packiam, Lead Pastor of Rockharbor Church. Glenn shares his experiences moving from New Life Church in Colorado Springs to Rock Harbor Church in California, offering valuable insights on navigating change, honoring past leadership, and fostering collaborative environments. Whether you're a seasoned leader or stepping into a new role, this episode provides practical advice on managing transitions and building resilient teams.

Kadi Cole – Attracting and Retaining Top Talent06 août 202400:26:24

Kadi Cole joins us again to discuss what it takes to attract and retain top talent in today’s changing landscape. Kadi and Tim highlight the potential of Gen Z leaders, the missed opportunities with older leaders, and the importance of coaching and mental health within teams.

Phil Bowdle – Hiring Trends & Top Questions For Building Teams (Part 2)23 juil. 202400:25:34

In Part 2 of "Hiring Trends & Top Questions For Building Teams," we sit down with Phil Bowdle to explore how to do more with less in ministry. Uncover the surprising disconnect between senior leaders and their teams and learn how to bridge this gap.

Phil shares insights on embracing your role as a creative, pitching new hires, and best practices for interviewing. Discover effective strategies for casting vision to volunteers and ensuring your team is aligned and motivated.

Stay tuned for more insightful discussions, and don't forget to share and subscribe!

Brian Taylor – Hiring Trends & Top Questions For Building Teams (Part 1)09 juil. 202400:26:29

Join us on Part 1 of "Hiring Trends & Top Questions For Building Teams" as we sit down with Brian Taylor to answer the crucial questions you need to ask when building your team. Discover surprising hiring trends we're seeing in churches and nonprofit organizations nationwide.

Gain valuable tips on promoting the right individuals, handling difficult conversations, and ensuring your team is aligned and effective. This episode is packed with practical advice for leaders aiming to build resilient and high-performing teams in today’s ever-changing landscape.

Stay tuned for part two with Phil Bowdle, and don't forget to share and subscribe for more insightful discussions.

David Ashcraft – Staying Faithful & On Mission25 juin 202400:33:03

David Ashcraft, former leader of LCBC Church and current President and CEO of the Global Leadership Network, sits down with Tim Foot to discuss the impact of long-term leadership on organizational growth, the importance of perseverance during challenging times, and the transition from leading a local church to a national organization. This episode is packed with wisdom and valuable insights for leaders at all levels.

Tony Morgan – Top Tips for Keeping Your Team Unstuck11 juin 202400:43:46

Tony Morgan, Founder and Lead Strategist of The Unstuck Group, joins the podcast to talk through the latest Church Staffing Trends report, preparing for staff turnover, which roles to prioritize for the future, and top tips for keeping your team unstuck. 

Jackie Brewster – WorkingBetter Together, Enneagram, and Self-Awarenes21 mai 202400:42:56

Tim Foot chats with Jackie Brewster about the Enneagram, a fantastic tool for self-awareness, personal growth, and teamwork. They break down how the Enneagram goes beyond just labeling people and helps foster empathy and understanding for yourself and others. Tune in for an insightful conversation that can boost your leadership and team dynamics!

David Smallbone – Unsung Hero07 mai 202400:21:09

Get ready for an inspiring conversation on the Slingshot Group podcast as Tim Foot sits down with David Smallbone to explore the remarkable journey behind the hit movie "Unsung Hero." Many of you may know of David through his work in the music industry. Others may be familiar because of his family, including his children of Grammy award-winning artist Rebecca St. James and Joel and Luke Smallbone from the band For King + Country. Throughout the discussion, David imparts profound wisdom on navigating adversity as a family, the power of the Church in action, and staying aligned with one's purpose.

Matt Wright & Brooke Hodnefield – How Healthy Teams Handle Conflict23 avr. 202400:35:34

In this episode, Tim Foot, Brooke Hodnefield, and Matt Wright dive into the nuances of conflict within teams and organizations. From distinguishing between healthy and unhealthy conflict to navigating ideological and interpersonal tensions, they offer insights on conflict with your boss, conflict within teams, and generational conflict. 

Dan Reiland – How Healthy Teams Hire & Fire09 avr. 202400:51:34

Dan Reiland joins the podcast to discuss the characteristics of healthy organizations, the art of discerning cultural fit, and proven strategies for getting the right leaders in the right roles. From thoughtful hiring to difficult firing decisions, learn how the best teams navigate talent management to achieve their vision.

Brandon Cormier – Pioneering Through Messy Growth13 mars 202400:51:17

Brandon Cormier shares his journey of planting Zeal Church in Colorado Springs and leading through explosive growth. He discusses the challenges and lessons learned in leadership, surprises of being a lead pastor, growing teams, culture, and the moments where God showed up in powerful ways.

Laura Story – The Challenges and Rewards of Ministry27 févr. 202400:46:24

Laura Story, an accomplished author, worship leader, and Grammy and Dove award-winning songwriter known for hit songs like "Indescribable" and "Blessings", opens up about her captivating journey in worship ministry. Through her personal experiences, she sheds light on the crucial role authenticity and vulnerability play in leadership within the local church. This conversation is full of valuable insights as she talks about coping with disappointment, overcoming hardships, and embracing the challenges and rewards of ministry.

Clay Scroggins – How Leadership Is Changing13 févr. 202400:47:18

Explore the evolving landscape of leadership with Clay Scroggins, author of 'How to Lead When You're Not In Charge' and 'The Aspiring Leader's Guide to the Future.' In this insightful podcast episode, discover how leadership is transforming and the profound implications it holds for both you and your team. Clay covers the blind spots for leaders, the power of leading with influence rather than authority, and actionable steps to effectively shape your team for the future.

Tod Bolsinger – Canoeing the Mountains & Leading Change30 janv. 202400:37:56

What is adaptive leadership? Tod Bolsinger, an author and leader in the fields of church and nonprofit leadership, sits down with Tim Foot, CEO of Slingshot Group, to discuss the need for adaptive leadership in a changing world. He also shares the inspiration behind his book 'Canoeing the Mountains' and highlights the need for trust, alignment with God's purposes, and building remarkable and healthy church teams.

Tim Foot – Real Talk on Feeling Stuck, Promotions, Transitions & Self Development16 janv. 202400:57:51

Tim Foot, CEO of Slingshot Group, sat down with Jesse DeYoung, the Executive Lead Pastor of Flatirons Community Church in Denver, CO, and their staff to delve into topics that everyone is thinking about but rarely talks about. They explore subjects such as navigating promotions, overcoming role stagnation, and the vital responsibility of staying healthy through transitions.

Kevin Queen – Intimacy Over Impact12 déc. 202300:57:16

Kevin Queen sits down with Tim Foot, CEO of Slingshot Group, to share his journey to becoming the Lead Pastor at Cross Point Church in Nashville, TN. Kevin discusses the best advice he’s received that shapes how he leads, how to stay faithful in the midst of trials, and how you too can stay connected to Jesus through the challenges of ministry.

Matt Tresidder – Healthy Leader, Healthy Team28 nov. 202300:39:03

If you want a healthy team, it’s time to give up managing your people and start leading them. But how do you do that? Matt Tresidder, CEO and co-founder of Leadr, sits down with Tim Foot, CEO of Slingshot Group, to discuss ways to lead yourself well, develop your people, and create a healthy culture for your team to thrive in.

Jordan Raynor – Purposeful, Present, and Wildly Productive With Your Time14 nov. 202300:38:33

In a culture of constant connectedness, how can church leaders separate themselves from the noise to be the most productive and present leaders God created them to be? Jordan Raynor, entrepreneur and author, sits down with Tim Foot, CEO of Slingshot Group, to discuss ways to dissent from the kingdom of noise, manage your time like Jesus, and model productive rest for your team.

Kenny Jahng – How AI Can Save Time & Enhance Ministry31 oct. 202300:41:18

How can ministries embrace AI rather than fear it? Tim Foot, CEO of Slingshot Group, chats with Kenny Jahng, an online ministry expert, about ways to leverage AI and use it to further the mission of your organization. Plus, find out easy ways to get started with AI and encourage your team to join you in the learning process.

Todd Clark — Navigating Succession and Leadership Transition17 oct. 202300:39:07

How can a church or organization successfully guide a leadership transition? Join Tim Foot, CEO of Slingshot Group, as he sits down with Todd Clark, Senior Associate in Senior Leadership at Slingshot Group, to discuss what to do – and what not to do – when approaching a leadership transition. Also, learn what you should do in your first and last 90 days in ministry in this guide for healthy successions and leadership transitions.

 

Check out Christ Fellowship’s successful transition story here.

Stay or Go, and 5 Things You Need to Quit20 sept. 202300:27:31

Join guest host Brian Taylor, VP of Worship and Creative Arts, as he sits down with Tim Foot, CEO of Slingshot Group, to explore why ministry leaders are stepping down in record numbers and how to make that transition graceful. Also learn the 5 things to quit before you quit ministry and in this go-to guide for thriving in ministry.

Larry Osborne — Leading the Church in Our Current Cultural Context05 sept. 202300:43:10

In a culture that seems to be getting darker and more divided by the moment, what does it look like to follow Jesus every day? How do you overcome challenges to leading and loving your church? Dive in with guest Larry Osborne, a seasoned author, mentor, and pastor of North Coast Church, as he unpacks the transformative joy and simplicity of daily obedience to Christ. From how to better shepherd your church to embracing leadership as a team sport, Larry offers words of wisdom that will encourage every weary leader. Listen now for invaluable insights that can reshape your daily walk with Jesus and reenergize your leadership journey.

Nancy & Samantha Beach — Boomers and Millennials Healing Church Dysfunction22 août 202300:45:18

How do you stay hopeful for the future of the church when so many people are leaving due to hurt, disappointment, and woundedness? Join the conversation with co-authors, pastors, and mother-daughter duo Nancy and Samantha Beach as they address the church’s dysfunctions while casting a vision for a brighter future. Tune in for encouraging insights on how each one of us can help pave the way for a renewed, more resilient church.

Robby Gallaty — Suffering, Silence, and Listening for Revival08 août 202300:50:45

How do you tune your ear to hear the Holy Spirit? In this riveting episode, you’ll hear from Robby Gallaty—pastor of Long Hollow Church in Tennessee who was raised Catholic, was trained to be a UFC fighter, and battled a $200/day addiction to heroin and cocaine. Discover his remarkable story and how sitting in silence led to God bringing revival to Long Hollow in the form of 1,000 baptisms in 15 weeks.

Kevin Brown (Pres. of Asbury University) — Stories & Insights from Asbury Revival25 juil. 202300:49:48

In this captivating episode, Dr. Kevin Brown shares his firsthand experience of leading a remarkable and unexpected revival on Asbury University's campus. With awe-inspiring authenticity, he narrates the power of God's movement among the younger generation and the impact it had on transforming lives. Driven by a deep hunger for something genuine, Gen Z responded passionately to this uncoordinated humility. Join in as Dr. Kevin Brown shares profound insights on leading and investing in the church of the future, offering hope for a brighter future where authenticity and imagination pave the way.

Warren Bird + Léonce Crump – Cracking the Code of Resilient Teams11 juil. 202300:35:41

In this episode, Warren Bird and Léone Crump discuss the importance of building resilient teams and leading through challenges. They share insights from their experiences in sports and ministry, emphasizing the power of working together as a unit. They explore the need for teams to adapt in an ever-changing landscape, the detrimental effects of dysfunctional teams, and the key factors that contribute to team floundering. With a focus on resilience and embracing disruption, they provide practical steps for teams to flourish and make a lasting impact.

Mike Foster – Self Awareness and Finding Your Primal Question27 juin 202300:42:09

In this captivating episode, renowned leadership expert Mike Foster takes us on a profound journey of self-discovery and transformation. With a focus on authentic leadership, Foster delves into the power of primal questions and their role in achieving success. Drawing from his extensive experience and research, he reveals how embracing primal questions can unlock hidden potential, challenge conventional thinking, and pave the way for genuine leadership breakthroughs. This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking to lead with purpose, connect deeply with others, and make a lasting difference in their personal and professional spheres.

Natalie Runion — Church Hurt and Turning Pain Into Purpose13 juin 202300:30:49

What happens when church hurt and disappointment drive someone to the brink of quitting? Join this conversation with author Natalie Runion as she shares her personal journey from wanting to quit ministry to starting the Raised to Stay movement - a movement about persevering in faith and ministry when it feels like there are a million reasons to walk away. Host Brian Taylor and Natalie explore the reasons behind the increasing prevalence of church leaders facing these issues and the role of social media in amplifying them. Discover how reconciliation and unity are the keys to healing within the church. 

Rory Vaden — Self-Discipline, Redefining Success, and Personal Branding30 mai 202300:47:33

As a servant leader, you give your best to serve to others. But how can you make the most of your limited time? Join the conversation with NYT bestselling author and viral TED speaker Rory Vaden to explore strategies that will set you up to make a bigger impact. Discover how to reframe success, tap into your purpose, and multiply your time using a simple tactic called the significance calculation.

Irene Rollins — Lead Yourself and Your Home to Transform Your Team04 avr. 202300:37:06

It’s hard work pretending like you’ve got your life together. But that’s how so many church leaders are living… until they burn out or hit rock bottom. In this gem of a conversation  with Irene Rollins, pastor, consultant, wife, mother, and author of “Reframe Your Shame,” we talk about addiction, grief, self-care, leading your family, and more.

 

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