Today on another brand new episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we give you part one of our conversation with Suzanne Lloyd, the granddaughter of silent film comedy star & Christmas tree obsessive, Harold Lloyd. Now, if the name (or the image) of Harold Lloyd doesn’t immediately ring a bell like Buster Keaton or Charlie Chaplin, this is one of the reasons we do this podcast, to make sure the legacy of legendary (or sometimes just working actors) are not forgotten. And after you hear Suzanne’s lengthy and almost encyclopedic remembrances of the man who raised her and why his name isn’t always mentioned as one of the three silent film comedians, you will understand it after listening to part one and next week’s part two. There is a reason. One we know all too well ourselves with the Ernie Kovacs estate.

On today’s episode, we discuss the silent era of film and names like Hal Roach, Colleen Moore, Mary Pickford, Daryl Zanuck, Irving Thalberg, Snub Pollard and more are bandied about like so many of Suzanne’s colorful stories about Harold Lloyd. We also hearabout Suzanne’s grandmother, actress Mildred Davis who was a pretty huge silent film star in her own right. It’s a whirlwind of information that fans of silent films won’t get enough of and fans who love old Hollywood but maybe don’t know the silent era well will want to learn more about.

Suzanne was a marvelous guest – someone who knows dates, places, studios, names and more like these things happened just yesterday. It’s clear that because she now controlls the Harold Lloyd Estate and his production company that she learned all this while also genuinely loving her grandfather who raised her like a daughter. It’s terrific stuff. So now podcast listeners, we bring you the story of Speedy aka Harold Lloyd on this episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast. Take a listen.

Welcome to another bonus edition of the Rarified Heir Podcast. Today we bring you something a little different. Just for fun. On Saturday September 28th and Sunday the 29th, 2024 the good folks at the VideoFest in Dallas presented Devo’s Gerald Casale with the Ernie Kovacs award. Since the 1997, Bart Weiss and the Video Association of Dallas has given out a (semi) annual Ernie Kovacs award with the help of Edie Adams and since her passing in 2009, her son, Rarified Heir Podcast host Josh Mills. Past recipients include Joel Hodgson, Paul Reubens, Amy Sedaris, Terry Gilliam, John Cleese, Mike Judge, George Schlatter, Kevin McDonald & Dave Foley of Kids in the Hall, Al Franken, Martin Mull, Michael Nesmith and more.

Thank you to Kyle Riche for recording the event, Bart Weiss and the VideoFest in Dallas Texas for holding an Ernie Kovacs award annually, Gerald Casale for being such an Ernie Kovacs fan, Jeff Winner for making this event happen, the good folks at the Texas Theater, DJ George Gimarc, all the VideoFest volunteers and everyone who has attended any of the Kovacs Awards through the years.

So Rarified Heir Podcast fans, this is not your typical episode, but we thought you all might want to hear some of what happened that weekend. And here it is.

Today on another encore edition of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to actor David Deluise, son of comedian/actors Dom Deluise & Carol Arthur. Ok, sure, we talk about the 80s cable TV classic film Hot Stuff a little bit too much on this episode but it’s one of the few films Dom directed and also featured his wife and family. And like the film, we hear from David that in many ways that film mirrored their life off camera. There was lots of food, laughter and spending time with friends and family when the camera’s weren’t rolling.

We discuss with David many of his father’s friends including Mel Brooks, Burt Reynolds, Dean Martin and more. When you have prominent roles in everything from Blazing Saddles to The Muppet Movie, there is a lot to talk about. Of course we talk about Dom’s other passion: food. Cooking, eating and procuring free food as well. Clearly the man lived to eat and that’s a man after our own hear.

We also talk about David’s acting and directing career on television shows like The Thunderman’s, Lab Rats and more. We also learn how the show Felicity got its name, the family’s favorite restaurants, being too nervous to meet Robert De Niro, dining with Martin Sheen & sending Anthony Hopkins a pizza as an introduction. You know, the typical things most kids grow up doing all over this great land of ours. So sit back, maybe order Chinese food for 50 people as the Deluise’s did and take a listen to this episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story.

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to Colin Cosell, grandson of legendary broadcaster and American cultural icon, Howard Cosell. Now, if you are born in the United States, you will definitely know Howard Cosell. But for those outside the US, that name night not be as well known. But in the 1970s and 80s, Cosell was at the Zenith of where celebrity, sports and pop culture mixed.

Famous for his “Tell it like it is” manner on air, Howard Cosell was as famous for his calls of the boxing, football, baseball & the Olympics while also being remembered for his voice, his wit and his sometimes prickly manner. He got as much hate mail as he got praise and he was often at the center of controversy for his comments on air as well as his opinions off air. For many of us, Howard Cosell will be remembered as the man who broke the news to America that John Lennon was shot and killed which we watched Monday Night Football. For others he will be remembered for  as the  butt playful jokes from one of his best friends Muhammad Ali. This was a man who famously parlayed his fame as a sportscaster to television, film and the larger pop culture zeitgeist of the latter half of the 20th Century as you will soon hear.

Talking to Colin, we get to see another side of Howard, a grandfather who doted on his family and young Colin. We discuss how the family all played board games together, the many dogs they grew up with and how he would see his grandfather every week or two growing up. Howard was a very present grandfather who could also pull some strings and arrange a meeting with a world famous athlete one day and hang with you eating bagels the next. Colin was a jovial guest who told  stories about the other Saturday Night Live Starring Howard Coselland how Cosell impacted the late night comedy juggernaut SNL we know today. We talk Monday Night Football with Frank Gifford and ‘Dandy’ Don Meredith as well as the time  Jon Bon Jovi came over to talk. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast and everyone has a story.

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to Brad James, son of game show host and television icon, Dennis James. We loved talking to Brad because of all the many connections his dad had to early – and we mean early – television that connected with host Josh Mills own family in early television. Fans of classic television should appreciate this episode as we talk about televisions earliest beginning when there were literally just a few hundred sets in the New York metropolitan area.

From there we discuss all the many game shows Dennis James was a part of including landmark shows like: The New Price is Right, Let’s Make a Deal and Name That Tune as well as obscure shows like Haggis Baggis, Cash and Carry and Name’s The Same. It’s why he was known as the “Dean of Game Shows.” We are just scratching the surface here as James worked on commercials, radio, movies and became a philanthropic juggernaut when he hosted the first-ever telethon for united Cerebral Palsy Associations as emcee that continued well into the 1990s. In fact, after his father passed away in 1997, Brad took over that role as host to help keep his father’s life work alive.

Along the way, we talk golf & Kevin Costner, a skinny kid from New Jersey like James named Sinatra who came up through the ranks together and how his father raised – get this $750 million dollars in his five decades of work for United Cerebral Palsy. There is also a story about Foster Brooks and a gun that entertained us to no end. So please, take a listen to the Rarified Heir Podcast with guest Brad James. Everyone has a story.

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to journalist Claudia Cowan who grew up the daughter of actress Barbara Rush and pioneering A-list publicist Warren Cowan. Claudia spoke with us about growing up with a mother co-starred with Paul Newman in The Young Philadelphians and whose father was Paul Newmand’s press agent. It was a difficult task to focus on both her mother and father because they both did so much personally and professionally – including marrying and divorcing – twice.

Along the way we hear about Claudia’s favorite LA restaurants, her mother’s disappointment at not singing a duet with Frank Sinatra in Robin and the Seven Hoods, how her father invented the “Top Ten list,” what it was like being on tour with her mother while she was starring in regional theater in Chicago and how her parents met The Beatles at a garden party the night after their famed Hollywood Bowl performance that her father was publicizing and so much more.

So what is it like to have a father who represented Clint Eastwood, Kirk Douglas, George Burns, Ronald Reagan and others while her mom was starring in movies with Rock Hudson, Dean Martin Marlon Brando, Hope Lange and Ernie Kovacs? You’ll just have to listen to this episode and find out. And let us say this, in honor of her father, when asked, who his favorite client was said “The next one,” let us just say that our favorite episode is the next one, which in this case is THIS one with Claudia Cowan. Another child of a celebrity interviewed by a child of a celebrity. Everyone has a story.

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to actor David Pressman and both delving into both of his actor parents, Lawrence Pressman and Lanna Saunders. Like our previous guest, Christopher Murray, David seemed destined to become an actor – not just because of his parents but also because his grandparents and even his great grandfather were actors as well – going all the way back to the Russian/Ukrainian stage before he emigrated to America. We are talking generations!

David spoke to us about his time growing up in Los Angeles with his mother Lanna who appeared on more than 500 episodes of the popular soap opera Days of Our Lives as Marie Horton and his father who is still going strong at age 85. Depending on how old you are, you will know Lawrence’s best from his roles in Nine to Five, Mulligan’s Stew, M*A*S*H, Doogie Howser and so much more. We also talk about both of his parents love of theater and their time on Broadway, working on the stage prior to their move out to Los Angeles when David was seven years old.

Along the way we speak about the such things as the CIA, Robby Benson’s gang film Walk Proud, the difference between overtime and golden time on set, a fear of flying that led to a marriage, partying with Steve Coogan on the set of Tropic Thunder, famous LA restaurants, Jane Fonda’s kindness at a dinner party and much more. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast and everyone has a story. Take a listen.

Today on another episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we continue our conversation with actor Christopher Murray and delve deeper into some fun and fascinating new stories about his mother actor Hope Lange, father actor Don Murray and step father Director Alan J. Pakula. Christopher talks to us about one of the most interesting connections he and his parents have – Director David Lynch. Hope Lange starred in Blue Velvet and both Christopher and Don played roles on Twin Peaks all in three separate decades. A totally weird Lynchian through line that is perhaps only rivaled by Laura Dern and Diane Ladd.

Moreover we discuss some of the backstage jealousies of making the film Bus Stop which his parents were both cast in – although no one knew they were married. It sheds a light on some of the insecurities and well documented frailties of Marilyn Monroe. We also discuss Sean Connery’s golf game, Scarlett Johansen’s first role in the film Just Cause, how you ingratiate yourself into the good graces of a Scotsman and more.

This leads to a Christopher’s reminisces of his truly remarkable stepfather Alan J. Pakula both at home and at work. From his time on the set of the film Klute where he met Jane Fonda to the trips Alan took he and his sister on to Morocco & Italy we really feel like we are getting a story very few know about. Part two of our conversation with Christopher is filled with beautiful memories and some tragic losses. Thanks for taking us along for the ride Chris. The Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story.

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast we are talking to actor Christopher Murray, who we find out, was quite literally born into show business. From both his maternal and paternal grandparents as well as both of his parents, Christopher likely couldn’t have escaped a career in front of the camera if he tried. So who are his parents? Well, both are Oscar nominated and his mother is a two-time Emmy award winner. Can you guess? None other than actors Don Murray & Hope Lange.

Between his parents, they have starred in films and TV productions with Marilyn Monroe, Elvis Presley, Robert Wagner, Charles Laughton, Roddy McDowell, Michelle Lee, Kathleen Turner, Joan Crawford, Glenn Ford, Suzy Parker and more. And if that isn’t enough, his stepfather was a giant of a director,  Alan J. Pakula who directed some of the best films of the 70s as well.

Our time  with Christopher was more a conversation than an interview and frankly, those are the ones we love best on this podcast. We jumped around a lot but the connections were never more apparent than when we were discussing how it is that Charles Nelson Reilly spent so much time at his house. We delved into just about everything with Christopher to the story of how his parents helped displaced European war refugees from WWII & the Korean War that still functions to this day as well as the fabulous dinner parties his mother gave that were a safe haven for gay Hollywood couples in an era when things like that were very rare.

This conversation that spans the stage, film and television and involves everyone from Hubert H. Humphrey to Eleanor Roosevelt, Sean Connery to Ed Harris & Freddy Kruger to Don Deer. But to hear all of those stories, we had to spread this episode into two parts – there was just too much great stuff to cut out. You’ll have to take a listen to this episode, part one,  of the Rarified Heir Podcast to begin this verbal scavenger hunt.  Everyone has a story.

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast we are talking to Christopher Lewis, son of entertainer & human juggernaut, the one, the only, Jerry Lewis. Chris was kind enough to reach out to us via a mutual connection at the Library of Congress and was pretty terrific about answering all our questions, big and small about the man known as “The King of Comedy.” The impetus for our chat was Chris’ book Jerry Lewis on Being a Person, a 300+ page book is packed with photos, ruminations, life lessons, antidotes and more. It’s a wonderful look at a complex comedian, director, writer, producer, golfer and philanthropist.

Chris talked to us about his father and was frank about why he looks at his father with “rose colored glasses,” his father’s lust for life and everything in between. Somehow we get to a vast amount of information on “Le Roi du Crazy” as the French called him. Our discussion hits everything from his love of audio and video technology to just how much of the Jerry Lewis archive was delivered to the Library of Congress. We also spoke about culturally significant high points like his guest appearance on Pink Lady and Jeff ans Slapstick (of Another Kind). Along the way we get to talking about The Day the Clown Cried, an true art imitates life Rupert Pupkin stalking situation that had everyone in the family on edge, why handshake deals were so important to Jerry and what comedians made Jerry Lewis laugh. All you have to do is sit back and listen to this episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast. Take a listen.

Today on another encore edition of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to Victoria Riskin, daughter of actress Fay Wray & screenwriter Robert Riskin. We first learned about Victoria in a Los Angeles Times interview with her about her book, Fay Wray and Robert Riskin: A Hollywood Memoir & boy are we glad we reached out. Better yet, Victoria was an engaging guest full of great stories about her mother and father, her years growing up in Los Angeles, long lost LA haunts, her mother’s fortitude over the years and her own career in Hollywood.

While the kids love the buzz word, ‘iconic’ these days, it’s also the only real word to capture Fay Wray. She had a wonderfully full career in Hollywood which we discuss but it’s her signature role as Ann Darrow in the 1933 film King Kong which fans remember as part of the golden age of Hollywood – and beyond. We also discuss her father, who wrote films for Frank Capra and we get a glimpse into their private life and courtship via our conversation about her memoir.

There’s also talk about Mary Tyler Moore, John Lithgow, Michael Caine, Bernadette Peters and Bob Hoskins. And if you’ve never heard of C.C. Brown’s Ice Cream Parlor, well you are missing out on more Hollywood lore you never knew existed. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast and everyone has a story.

Today on an encore edition of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are evolving into a new lifeform as we sit down with Julie Nimoy and husband David Knight to talk about Julie’s dad, Leonard Nimoy. Of course most of us know him as Mr. Spock, the Vulcan pop culture figure from the legendary TV show (and movies) Star Trek. But as you will hear from Julie, her father was a mercurial character who was fascinated with everything from cars to planes, from playwriting to photography, from painting to singing, there wasn’t much Leonard Nimoy didn’t do in his lifetime.

Julie & David let us in on everything you’d want to know about Leonard Nimoy including the documentary they made for PBS Remembering Leonard Nimoy to their second documentary Wilder! which came about due to an unlikely friendship between Leonard and actor Gene Wilder. Bonus points if you can tell us what film they met on. Somehow we work in Mission Impossible, Night Gallery, Baffled!, In Search of….and so much more. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast and everyone has a story.

Welcome to another bonus edition of the Rarified Heir Podcast. Today we bring you something a little different. Just for fun. On Saturday September 28th and Sunday the 29th, 2024 the good folks at the VideoFest in Dallas presented Devo’s Gerald Casale with the Ernie Kovacs award. Since the 1997, Bart Weiss and the Video Association of Dallas has given out a (semi) annual Ernie Kovacs award with the help of Edie Adams and since her passing in 2009, her son, Rarified Heir Podcast host Josh Mills. Past recipients include Joel Hodgson, Paul Reubens, Amy Sedaris, Terry Gilliam, John Cleese, Mike Judge, George Schlatter, Kevin McDonald & Dave Foley of Kids in the Hall, Al Franken, Martin Mull, Michael Nesmith and more.

Thank you to Kyle Riche for recording the event, Bart Weiss and the VideoFest in Dallas Texas for holding an Ernie Kovacs award annually, Gerald Casale for being such an Ernie Kovacs fan, Jeff Winner for making this event happen, the good folks at the Texas Theater, DJ George Gimarc, all the VideoFest volunteers and everyone who has attended any of the Kovacs Awards through the years.

So Rarified Heir Podcast fans, this is not your typical episode, but we thought you all might want to hear some of what happened that weekend. And here it is.

Encore! Encore! Yes, today we present another encore episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast, and this one was a doozy! Our guest today is Matt Asner, son of actor and activist of the beloved Ed Asner. Matt spoke with us on the podcast about a myriad of things such as his youth spent on the MTM backlot while his dad was playing Lou Grant on The Mary Tyler Moore Show, the story behind his dad’s controversial stint as head of the Screen Actors Guild,  films like Fort Apache The Bronx, Pixar’s Up, Elf and much more.

We also hear from Matt about his years as a musical youth in punk bands like Insect Idol & Grand Manner, time spent with his dad’s co-stars Ted Knight and Gavin McLeod as well as where his father liked to eat in Los Angeles. Most importantly we discuss Matt’s work at The Ed Asner Family Center, which provides virtual and in-person camps, adult day programs, relationship courses, arts, and vocational, enrichments for special needs individuals and their families as well as in-person and Telehealth counseling and support groups. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story.

Today on another encore edition of the Rarified Heir Podcast we are talking to Richard Duggan, son of actor Andrew Duggan. Andrew was kind enough to talk to us about his father who had so many credits and tangential pop culture references, we’ll have you saying, “Ah, yeah right!” Before you know it. A star of stage, screen, television, commercials and more, Richard Duggan most recently would be known for his TV show Lancer which plays a pretty major role in the Quentin Tarantino movie Once Upon a Time In Hollywood. Believe me, we dig right in on that one. We also hear about his father’s roles opposite everyone from James Coburn, Meryl Streep, Don Knotts, Dan Aykroyd and Larry Storch. I ask you, where can you find a resume like that? From In Like Flint to Doctor Detroit, we hear all about his dad’s career in front of the camera. There’s even a few curve balls, as Andrew was the voice of a series of popular commercials for Bud Light & even won a Clio for “Friend of the Family (Rust in Peace)”.

Richard also tells us about his career in comedy & film as he passes along some great first-hand accounts of Robin Williams (who went to the same college), Andy Dick and the cult film The Toxic Avenger. I mean, how could you go wrong hearing about Kirk Douglas and Toxie? The fact is you can’t. So set your internal clocks back a tiny bit and take a listen to this episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story. 

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to Hugo Morley, grandson of  actor Robert Morley. Depending on what age you are and what country you grew up in, you might know Robert Morley for different things. If you are an American, you know him from his stint as the spokesman for British Airways or possibly the film Who Is Killing The Great Chef’s of Europe with George Segal and Jacqueline Bisset. It was fascinating to find out from Hugo, that Robert actually had a lot of leeway in the BA commercials direction. But if you grew up in England or Australia, you might know Robert Morley from the stage where he performed in about 100 films and starred in/wrote many plays. His career spanned more than sixty years and in fact, his first film role garnered an Academy Award nomination in 1939 as King Louis XVI in Marie Antoinette, starring Norma Shearer and Tyrone Power. That’s one hell of a debut.

Hugo was open with us and told us about (free) trips he took with his grandfather and family thanks to British Airways, of meals he shared with him and time spent in Robert Morley’s back garden. There was swimming and cigars….for Robert, not Hugo. We also learn about Hugo’s theater critic/actor father, Sheridan Morley who was quite well known in England. We learn about his influence on the musical Les Miserables, how an interview with Carol Channing led to Hugo becoming her Godmother and how Yul Brenner played a part in their relationship. Along the way we talk about everyone from Eli Wallach to David Tomlinson, Griff Rhys Jones, to Joanna Lumley and more.

This is the Rarified Heir Podcast and everyone has a story.

Today on another encore episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to the son of actor Albert Eisenmann. While that name might be unfamiliar to some, if you grew up in Houston in the 1960s, you KNEW Albert Eisenmann. This episode is about local television stars and as we hear from guest Ike Eisenmann, the show Cadet Don was a massively popular children’s program when he was a boy in the NASA obsessed hometown of Houston.

Ironically, Ike decided to try acting when the family moved to Los Angeles where the plan was to have Albert’s acting career take off on a larger scale. However, it was Ike whose career took off in Los Angeles in fact, not his father’s. As you will hear, you all know Ike from films like Escape from Witch Mountain & Fantastic Journey as well as multiple television series and commercials from the 1970s onward. He was THE go-to child and young adult actor.

Ike spoke with us about the good stuff and the not so great stuff of growing up with a celebrity father whose career he eclipsed before he was even 10 years old. It’s a bit of a rough go hearing Ike’s story and we appreciated him talking so frankly about his father as well as his own career. Today, Ike co-hosts his own podcast, Pop Culture Retro with Jonathan Rosen. It’s a good one. Be sure and check it out after this episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story.

Today on another encore episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to Keaton Talmadge, great-granddaughter of silent film comedic genius Buster Keaton and silent film star Natalie Talmadge. It’s a good thing we love silent film as well as talkies because talkies we did with Keaton. What about you ask? Some things you might expect and some you might not. For instance, how at one time in her life, Keaton would mention the name Buster Keaton and get a blank stare. Was there ever such a time? We also talk about Buster’s legacy in the ‘20s……of the 21st century, not 20th.

We also learn about the outrageously famous and somewhat wacky Talmadge sisters. Los Angelenos today would know them from apartment buildings and street names in and around Hollywood.  But their legacy, and that of their mother is not so much a lost story but one that isn’t frequently told. It’s a good one, especially if you like the ‘golden age of Hollywood.’ We discussed at length on this episode

We also hear about Keaton carrying on the acting tradition, when so many family members prior did not. Her voice-over work you have surely heard. We learn about her time learning acting in college, auditions and a strange but not so strange new company she started recently that isn’t just for kids. This was a very fun episode and we learned a lot. And of course, this is the Rarified Heir Podcast and everyone has a story. This one goes back to the silent era.

Today on another encore edition of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to actress/director Jessica Pinfield, daughter of music personality & record exec. Matt Pinfield. Our conversation with Jessica was a very frank and open discussion that took us to some pretty fun places discussing early MTV and alternative radio and also to some pretty intense, dark places as well.

Through it all, Jessica is a fantastic and honest guest who talks to us about her early memories of growing up in New Jersey at alternative rock stations & indie record stores while also regaling us of stories of shows like 120 Minutes and more. Along the way however, we hear about a less than ideal side of the freewheeling world of 90s’s excess that she lived in with her dad and mom in a household that wasn’t quite Leave it to Beaver. Jessica is brutally frank about the things she saw as a kid but also as an adult in a slightly dysfunctional world of radio, television and the music industry in general. But thankfully, as we learn, Jessica and dad Matt are reconnecting and even living together in the same house all these years later, today in LA.

Better yet, we hear from Jessica about her acting and directing career she’s creating for herself today and it’s a beautiful counterbalance to everything that went on prior. Take a listen.

Today on another encore edition of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to two guests who have been on the podcast prior but not at the same time. We are speaking with David Jenkins, son of actor Paul Jenkins and Jordan Summers, son of actor Yale Summers.

This is a unique episode for a couple of ways, the first is that we don’t often have two guests on at the same time. And two, while they did not attend the same high school, both David and Jordan gravitated to music, rather than acting and began playing music in long gone LA clubs while still in high school, back in the 80s. What’s more is that that love of playing music never left them and they get together at the world famous (ahem) Kibbitz Room at Canter’s Deli in Los Angeles for monthly jam sessions. The thing is, these aren’t your regular jam sessions. Quite a few big name musicians have joined them on stage playing rock, soul, Motown, disco, pop and more. Like who you ask? Well, listen in to find out who was doing it in the “Middle of the Road” with a “Super Freak”

Talking to David & Jordan was like hearing to a strangely reminiscent version of host Josh Mills’ own youth as familiar names, places and people come up in our conversation, it’s almost like being there. Sort of. This encore episode is one is for all you music fans out there. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story.

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to James Tomlinson, son of actor David Tomlinson. James was incredibly gracious with his time and patient with the lag of an international podcast recording and really spent some time talking to us about the big, and small stuff, about growing up the son of Mary Poppins employer, Mr. Banks.

Of course we talk about the Disney films David Tomlinson was known for – the aforementioned Mary Poppins, The Love Bug and Bedknobs and Broomsticks but we also discuss his massive career prior to Walt & company on the British stage and screen. We hear about films like Warning for Warriors, Miranda and Up the Creek to name a few. We also hear about how a role in a light comedy on the London stage led him to his most famous character on the big screen.

James was also incredibly open as we discuss the tragedies his father endured and the very awkward family life that his father dealt him. We also discussed his dad’s time as a flight instructor for the RAF in WWII as well of that of his two brothers. Plus we hear about David’s own father who lived a very conventional life. I mean lives. I mean, more than one. We get into that shocking story and his grandfather’s backstory of WWI that is hard to believe.

This is the Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story. And this one, you won’t forget.

Today on another encore edition of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to actor/impressionist Jim Meskimen, son of actor Marion Ross. We speak to Jim (and his many guises – he really has an amazing ear for voices) about growing up the child of everyone’s favorite TV mum, Mrs. C., Marion Cunningham from the 70s TV juggernaut Happy Days. We also delve into his mother’s ‘issues’ with her onscreen husband Tom Bosley but you are going to have to read her book, My Days: happy and Otherwise for those juicy details.

Our conversation with Jim centers around his years growing up with a single parent mother who struggled to make it in Hollywood after her divorce from Jim’s father. But we also talk about the salad days as well – checking out the set of Happy Days and the very homey, family atmosphere that show provided.  What started as a chance meeting with a casting director led his mother to becoming a household name in very little time at all.

We also spoke to Jim about his years acting in film and TV and commercials (he was Colonel Sanders after all in numerous KFC ads), his then-recent film Gaslight as well as his ‘breakthrough’ on America’s Got Talent with his amazing impressions, I mean Jim-pressions. (Ahem). Plus we hear some terrific stories about Rich Little, Phyllis Diller and Clark Gable that you won’t want to miss. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast. Another child of a celebrity, interviewed by a child of a celebrity. Take a listen.

Today on another encore edition of the Rarified Heir Podcast we are talking to Charlie Matthau, son of actor Walter Matthau. We spoke to Charlie about his amazing father & their special relationship but also his incredible mother, actor/author Carol Matthau. We quickly learn that she was (wait for it), the basis for Truman Capote’s Holly Golightly from Breakfast at Tiffany’s. There is one small difference between the character and the person however and we discuss that too. We also discuss Carol’s first husband, author William Saroyan and Charlie’s grandfather Charles Marcus of Bendix Aviation – which are both bigger-than-life stories unto themselves.

Somehow we were able to parse all this out and discuss what it was like growing up the son of one of the most beloved actors of his generation. Be it comedy or drama, we get into Walter Matthau’s career on stage & film as well as the weird and wonderful curios of his career. An uncredited cameo in Earthquake? We discuss it. His viewing habits of the television version of The Odd Couple? We discuss that too.

Along the way we discuss the Malibu beach house Charlie inhabited when host Josh Mills & family along with Walter’s best pal Jack Lemmon took to Broad Beach road in the 1970s. Plus, we get to hear about Walter’s penchant for card tricks, Christmas’ spent at the Lemmon’s house as well as what it was like for Charlie to direct his father in a film, The Glass Harp. Along the way we discuss Gloria Vanderbilt and Oona O’Neill, Howard Hughes, the unsung film Mikey and Nicky his mom starred in and much more. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast and everyone has a story.

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to J.D. Lobue Jr., son of television director & at one time budding sunshine pop musician J.D. Lobue Sr. We reached out to J.D. Jr., after reading an article in a fantastic music magazine called Ugly Things about a band from the 1960s called The Gordian Knot. While reading the article, the name J.D. Lobue came up and host Josh Mills immediately thought, “That MUST be the father of my former little league baseball teammate!” After all, Lobue isn’t Smith, it’s a pretty unique name. With a little bit more research, we discovered our hunch was correct, it was the same person.

As we dug a little further, we realized that not only was Sr. a member of The Gordian Knot, but was also a well-known television director whose credits included multiple credits for iconic American shows like Soul Train, Soap, It’s A Living, Herman’s Head, Dharma and Greg and so many more. There were also credits for shows that didn’t make it like Norman Lear’s All’s Fair, Amanda’s By The Sea, Comedy Zone, You Take The Kids and more. So on this episode, we get into the weeds on what it was like in the booth watching your dad direct Soul Train and how your dad kept it together when things didn’t go right on the set of Soap.

We also discuss meeting the great Madeline Kahn, how he channeled The Bad News Bears Tanner as a member of the Dodgers at Studio City National Little League, iconic TV director Jay Sandrich, the jazz fusion band The Crusaders, sitting in Archie Bunker’s chair on the All in the Family set, playing tennis at Mel Torme’s house and much more. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast and everyone has a story. Take a listen.

Today on part two of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we continue our conversation with Patti Weidenfeld, daughter of stand-up comedian Pat Cooper. If you heard part one of our conversation last week, prepare yourself for part two because the second half of Patti’s story is unlike anything you have ever heard before.

An idyllic life as the only child of Pat Cooper and her mother Patti Prince, comes to a screeching halt after seeing Mickey Rooney and Ann Miller in Sugar Babies on Broadway at age 8. We learned in the first episode Pat Cooper wasn’t entirely truthful with his daughter about his first family and on this episode, for the first time ever, Patti tells us her remarkable story about how an idyllic life was pulled out from under her.  How family secrets her parents have kept rearing their ugly heads in the most intense way possible. It’s a story Patti’s never told anyone and we were honored she felt comfortable enough to share it with us. Thought it all, Patti maintains a grace and an understanding that are hard to believe. Ultimately, Patti’s story is one that could have made her bitter and angry and no one would have blamed her. Yet as you will hear, she is thoughtful, forgiving, contemplative and loving in ways we only wish we could be. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast. Another child of a celebrity interviewed by the child of a celebrity. And this is the first time, anyone has heard this story.

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast we are talking to Patti Weidenfeld, daughter of comedian/actor Pat Cooper. An entertainer for more than 50 years, Pat Cooper was known as a ‘comedians comedian’, someone who other comedians look up to as a genuine talent and a show business icon. Born in Coney Island Brooklyn, Pat Cooper embodied the Mad Men era comedy scene up until last year when he passed away at age 93. What Jackie Mason was for Jewish comedians, Pat Cooper did for Italian comedians. And believe me he wore his Italian heritage proudly. One of his comedy album Spaghetti Sauce and Other Delights featured Pat posing in spaghetti sauce a la Herb Alpert’s Whipped Cream and Other Delights.

Many comedy fans today know Pat Cooper from his guest spots on Seinfeld and films like Analyze This and Analyze That. Unfortunately he’s also remembered for his many appearances on The Howard Stern Show where he became famous as an outrage comic who told tough, real family stories on air airing his dirty laundry for all to hear.

Patti on the other hand, talks to us about growing up in 70s Las Vegas and travelling with her father and mother to casinos on the strip and on the Atlantic City boardwalk opening for entertainers such as Paul Anka, Frank Sinatra, Jerry Lewis, Tony Bennett, Liza Minelli, Sammy Davis Jr. and more. When he wasn’t doing club dates, he was doing guest hosting slots on The Merv Griffin Show and The Mike Douglas Show upwards of 60 times…each. His infamous 1981 spot on Tom Snyder’s Tomorrow show interview revealed too much about headliners demands that he felt were ridiculous and got him blackballed from working in his adopted home town Las Vegas for years. Once again, Pat aired too much dirty laundry.

Still, Patti had an idyllic life with her father and mother until one day when Patti realized that some things she heard from her parents just didn’t add up. We discuss this with at length with Patti on part one of our interview which you are about to hear right now. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast, everyone has a story. This one, you haven’t heard before.

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast we are talking to Ed Eckstine, son of singer Billy Eckstine and actress/model Carolle Drake. Our conversation with Ed was fun, fascinating, edifying and above all, full of stories of his life as the child of a celebrity but also his own career in the music industry. Our only regret was not keeping Ed for another 90 minutes because he has stories for days. We barely scratched the surface. Part two is a must.

Many of us only know Billy Eckstine as a jazz & pop singer whose baritone voice and smooth delivery made him one of the most in-demand singers from the 1930s well into the 1950s. But he also was a guitar player, trumpet player and this Billy Eckstine & his Orchestra was the first Bebop Big Band and his players and vocalists were a who’s who of Jazz -  Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Dexter Gordon, Miles Davis, Art Blakey,  Sarah Vaughan, Pearl Bailey, and Lena Horne all were part of the band in the 1950s.

By 1950, his popularity rivaled Sinatra - which as you will hear wasn’t a rivalry at all between these two friends. It was Eckstine’s talent as well as his good looks and dapper attire that made him perhaps the first black entertainer to become a crossover star in the segregated 1950s America. But as we learn from our conversation with Ed, one photo in a major American magazine essentially put an end to all that in the must ugly and vile way possible. But to hear Ed tell it, this terrible incident was a blessing in disguise as it opened up doors for him outside America and made him an international star, touring well into the 1980s in Europe, Australia and Japan.

Our conversation with Ed also focused on his own career in the music industry that took him from journalist to publicist to head of Quincy Jones Qwest Productions to stints at Polygram,  Arista and as the President of Mercury Records. As Nabil Ayers in the New York Times said, “Eckstine’s story is unique because he was the first black person to be let in — to be allowed by the predominantly white music industry to helm one of its largest entities.”

This is the Rarified Heir Podcast and everyone has a story. Ed Eckstine’s is like none other.

Today on part two of our encore episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we again talk to Alison Martino, daughter of singer Al Martino and guardian of her beloved LA and her Vintage Los Angeles social media properties. And because both Alison and host josh Mills are die hard denizens of the city of angels, there is a lot (and we mean a lot) of hand wringing over the changes that have happened to the city over the last few decades.

Of course we continue our conversation about what it was like growing up as the daughter of her popular singer pop as we again delve into Paramount+’s The Offer about the making of The Godfather. Or maybe it was the maiming of The Godfather. Well, it depends on the viewer of course. We also get into old  schoolLas Vegas and how it worked when it was run by ‘the outfit’ rather than corporations, why Vegas wasn’t on the Martino touring circuit and more. So sit back and take a second listen to the second part of our interview with Alison Martino. Another child of a celebrity, interviewed by the child of a celebrity. Take a listen.

Today on another encore edition of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to Alison Martino for the second time about growing up the daughter of singer/actor Al Martino. As the founder of Vintage LA, Alison has created an online juggernaut that has hundreds of thousands of fans wanting to know more about significant current landmarks as well as lost LA as well.

We spoke to Alison in part one of this conversation on the heels of the Paramount+ series The Offer, which is based on the alleged story behind bringing The Godfather to the big screen. Of course, Al Martino plays the role of Johnny Fontaine in Part One and sings “I Have But One Heart” in the film. We also delve into her founding VLA and how it started almost as a lark. We also speak to Alison about her other gig, on Spectrum TV, bringing television viewers a slice of Los Angeles on the small screen in addition to devices of all kinds.

It was great to talk to Alison, someone whose passion for LA is found in her collection of menu’s, matchbooks, ephemera and other collections she passionately collects. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast and everyone has a story. Here’s part one of our Alison Martino interview, now.

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to Katharine “Kat” Kramer, daughter of producer/director Stanley Kramer. Now, you might have heard of a few films Stanley directed like The Defiant Ones, Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner, Judgement at Nuremberg, On the Beach and a comedy called It’s A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World. So it’s appropriate that this episode is airing two days after the Academy Awards. Why? Because Stanley Kramer’s films have received more than 80 Academy Award nominations, have received 16 Academy Awards and Kramer was given an Academy Award, the Irving Thalberg Award, in 1961. To say the man directed (and produced) some groundbreaking films with actors like Spencer Tracy, Marlon Brando, Katharine Hepburn and Sidney Poitier would mean you are just scratching the surface of his illustrious career.  

We talk to Katharine about everything about the themes of her father’s films and somehow, because host Josh Mills’ mum starred in It’s A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World, we end up talking about that film - a lot. We also talk about Phil Spector – who would have thunk? – Katherine’s one woman show, a Mick Jagger tribute album she recorded with many Stones alumni, her career as an actorvist, singing Judy Garland songs to Liza Minelli as a kid backstage, her haunted house growing up, the Kennedy assassination and much more. Katharine is absolutely the most motivated person we’ve had on this podcast as her career in TV, stage, music, charity and as a member of too many boards to count, will attest. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story.

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast we are talking to Matt Axton, son of singer, songwriter, commercial pitchman and actor Hoyt Axton. If you’re first thought is that Hoyt Axton was the dad in the film Gremlins, you’d be correct but you’d only be scratching the surface of this well rounded entertainer. We learn from Matt how his father wrote the smash hit “Joy To The World” made popular by Three Dog Night, how he became the house performer in the 1960s at the world famous Doug Weston’s The Troubadour for close to a decade and how bands like Steppenwolf & The Kingston Trio recorded his songs before the general public ever really heard of the name Hoyt Axton.

Matt also tells us about his grandmother Mae Boren Axton aka the “Queen Mother of Nashville” who was one of only two (yes you heard that right) in the music business in Nashville in the 1950s. She also penned more than 200 songs, got her undergraduate degree in journalism when most women simply did not go to college and she happened to be the person who introduced Colonel Tom Parker to Elvis Presley. Yes, you heard us correctly. But that’s not even half of it. She wrote Elvis’ first #1 hit song. Can you guess what that song was? Because you definitely have heard it. And that’s still not even the whole story.

It was great to talk to Matt, the third in his family to go into the entertainment business, as he also is a singer/songwriter and performer who talks to us about his own career on stage, the difference between how he, his father and grandmother toured and made records and how he’s bringing his own “Joy To The World” by practicing what his dad preached. That was:  “Be a conduit for good music and hopefully you can also be the satellite dish that pulls in the songs as they come in.” This is the Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story.

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to Denise Gautier, daughter of singer, comedian and painter Dick Gautier. As we discuss, many folks remember Dick Gautier as Hymie the Robot from the 60s sitcom Get Smart but as you will find out Dick Gautier was no one trick pony. He was a Tony award nominee for his role as Conrad Birdie in the original cast of the Broadway hit Bye, Bye Birdie, he wrote several books and several volumes of books on painting and caricature and he was a ground breaking stand-up comedian who got his start in show business at the Hungry-I in San Francisco in the 1950s.

Denise was happy to talk about her liberal and free spirited father who suntanned by the pool, was friends with fellow actors Dave Madden and Kenneth Mars, spent holiday parties at The Magic Castle in Los Angeles and made a life with his second wife, actress Barbara Stuart. But Denise also recalled a dad who often tried to show his daughter that there was another life away from her Jehovah’s Witness Mother where she could receive birthday cards and Christmas presents along with a more “worldly’ lifestyle as we discuss.

We talk to Denise about everything from her father’s frequent game show appearances on shows like Tattle Tales & Win, Lose or Draw, his two film scripts he wrote for AIP with Hollywood Squares host Peter Marshall, his infamous Cadillac, being on the set of his short-lived Mel Brooks sitcom When Things Were Rotten and even his comedic take on Quasimodo in a one man show that we need to know more about. Phew that was a mouthful. We even speak a bit about the recent Hulu film Pam & Tommy that directly talks about her life and that of her family. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story.

Today on part two of our encore episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we continue our conversation with guests Daisy Torme and James Torme. And that can only mean one thing: more great stories about growing up the children of The Velvet Fog, Mel Torme, one of the greatest voices in all Jazz history.

We speak to Daisy and James not only about their father but also their mother, actress Janette Scott. Terrific stories abound. We hear about spending the Summer in Los Angeles with their dad, a bonkers story about how their parents met and there’s a heart-warming/hear breaking story about leaving their dad at the airport and returning home to England. Speaking of England, we learn more about their childhood as both their mother and grandmother Dame Thora Hild were nothing short of national figures in the U.K. I mean really, doesn’t everyone’s mother have an annual film festival in their honor or is namedropped in The Rocky Horror Picture Show. Isn’t everyone’s grandmother a three-time BAFTA winner? But what makes this episode so terrific in our view is how enthusiastic Daisy and James were to talk about their parents and how much love and affection they exuded in doing so. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story. Take a listen.

Today on another encore edition of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking with Daisy Torme and James Torme, the children of singer/musician Mel Torme actress Janette Scott. This episode was a true pleasure to record as not only were there terrific Mel & Janette stories but also some great stories about out host, Josh’s dad as well. You see Mel and Martin Mills were buddies from as far back as the fifties who were runnin’ young guns in the entertainment business in New York during the Eisenhower administration. They formed strong bonds in their youth and it extended into old age…with some more-than-occasional bouts of silence for some misperceived slight or two.

In a sense, our conversation was a familial one as it felt like the next generation was reliving their parents together with stories about everything from photography to chocolate, from childish pranks to hanging with Buddy Rich and Sammy Davis Jr and much more. We talk “The Christmas Song”, Mountain Dew, Night Court & even a little known movie of Mel’s “Challenge to Survive” with William Shatner.

What began as a Twitter message to Daisy became a lunch, then another lunch and soon it became a full-blown Rarified Heir Podcast episode. So take a moment, set your internal clock back and let’s take listen to Daisy and James Torme talk about their father, The Velvet Fog, Mel Torme. Lucky for you that this is only part one! Part two is next week! Everyone has a story.

Today on Part Two of another encore episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we continue our conversation with guest Peter Ackerman, son of actor Elinor Donahue & television executive Harry Ackerman. We covered a lot of ground on part one but on this episode, we dig deep into things like how insanely loyal Star Trek fans are as we discuss fan conventions and their lasting impact on both celebrities and attending fans. In fact, both Peter and host Josh Mills played the role of dutiful sons, chaperoning and being the ‘money person’ at celebrity conventions their mothers attended. It was a bonding moment.

We also discuss forgotten Los Angeles restaurants, the Los Angeles Rams and how they connect to Bewitched, music videos from Peter Frampton and Aerosmith, the soap opera Days of Our Lives, the film Pretty Woman & Peter’s current career which might surprise you. We jammed a lot into this episode and the last one as well and Peter was a lively and willing participant to discuss his life, growing up the child of a celebrity. In fact, you can read more about it in his new book, Mom, Dad, Me, and Classic TV - Growing Up with Classic Television's Harry Ackerman and Elinor Donahue – out now!

So get ready, here comes part two of our conversation with Peter Ackerman. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast and everyone has a story.

Today on Part two of our interview with Sam Nelson on the Rarified Heir Podcast, we talk about what it was like being the son of Rick Nelson and grandson of Ozzie & Harriet Nelson about growing up, well, Nelson. On part one we discussed with Sam how he became the keeper of the flame for the family business as the archivist & producer for the TV show & new DVD box set The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet. But on this episode, Sam opens up to us about all sorts of things. From the wonderful and exciting to the tragic and the spooky.

Sam grew up very much the stuff of tabloid fodder while just in elementary school. Imagine going to the supermarket and seeing your picture on the cover of People magazine or the National Enquirer. We get into it. We also get into some really terrific stuff as well. What was Rick Nelson favorite hobby? What was his favorite ice cream shop? A-ha…you are going to have to listen to part two for details on this hard hitting topic.

Plus, we learn about the history and the ghostly stories surrounding the Nelson household that are the stuff of legend. Once owned by another very famous Hollywood actor, Sam tells us some truly bizarre and hair (not heir) raising tales of this haunted house in the Hollywood Hills. Evidently, a famous pop star owns it now. Again, you are going to have to take a listen to this second episode of our interview with Sam Nelson on the Rarified Heir Podcast to learn more. We promise, it’s another all-encompassing, honest, raw and intense episode. Take a listen.

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast, it’s part one of our interview with Sam Nelson, son of the great Rick Nelson, nephew to David Nelson and grandchild of Ozzie and Harriet Nelson  If you grew up in America in the 1950s The Adventures of Ozzie & Harriet defined post War America. It was a massive hit and ran for 14 years. We take a deep dive into the restoration and recent release of the complete, 435 episode DVD box set of The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet. Beginning as a radio show in the 1940s (I betcha didn’t know that!) & coming to television in the early 1950s. The Adventures of Ozzie & Harriet was the longest running, live action sitcom on American television until 2021 when It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia celebrated it’s 15th year. To say that this show was part of the fabric of American life in the 1950s and today is part of it’s lexicon would be an understatement. Perhaps no other show from that era is as well-known or beloved that didn’t feature Lucy or The Beaver as this show.

On this first of two episodes, we spoke with Sam about the interest and hard work in being the sole heir of the Nelson clan that not only wanted to make something of this show after decades of semi-neglect but put in the time, the effort and the sweat equity to bring it back. It’s no small effort as Sam tells us how, why and what obstacles he had in making sure that people not only knew the name Ozzie & Harriet but knew the show again in 2024.

Of course we speak about his father, entertainer & rock star Rick Nelson & uncle David Nelson who starred on The Adventures of Ozzie & Harriet and how Rick, then known as Ricky, single handedly brought rock and roll into America’s homes. It was Rick, with his matinee idol good looks and spot on singing voice that perhaps kept this show on the air long after it likely should have petered out. And this is a topic that particularly interested host Josh Mills as legacies and archives are something he has been dealing with every day of his life for the past decade and a half.

This is the Rarified Heir Podcast and this is Part One of our interview with Sam Nelson. Take a listen.

Today on part two of our interview with Radames Pera, we continue our conversation with the former actor known best as Grasshopper from the TV-series Kung-Fu. Believe us when we say, we wish we had another hour or two with Radames to get to all the stories that make up his own story, that of his mother’s story and that of his absentee father whose invention became a worldwide success that he unfortunately didn’t patent it.

On this episode, we discuss the Coogan law, a law that if you don’t know about you will get a crash course in this episode. Radames, like all child actors was protected under this law that was enacted in 1939 but was never totally enforced. We also learn through a YouTube video Radames posted about his mother actress Lisa Para whose addiction disorder became so acute, it had to be documented. Why? We discuss that on the episode and really we don’t even scratch the surface due to time constraints. All we can tell you is, Radames has a healthy and wonderfully openness to plainly discuss some of the most personal stories from his life. And for that, we thank him. Take a listen to part two of our interview with Radames Pera on the Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story.

Today on the first part of a two part episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are speaking to Radames Pera whose name you might know as well as that of his mother actor Lisa Pera. Because this episode is so jam packed – and we honestly didn’t even get to half of the stuff we wanted to talk about- so we split this episode into two parts. On this episode, we discuss Radames’ being a child actor in not one but two of the 70s most beloved television series. He is best known as young Caine or Grasshopper, if you like, in the series Kung Fu, a show that not only launched the martial arts craze but also a film that launched a global phenomenon that still resonates to this day. Radames also starred in Little House on the Prairie in a recurring role as John Jr.

Lisa Pera on the other hand, got her start in film and television as well, beginning in 1965 on the show Combat! in an episode directed by Vic Morrow. From there, she starred in films like The Hindenburg as well as shows like Perry Mason, Get Smart Man from Atlantis and even Hawaii 5-0 where she starred with Radames as his mother. Novel casting, that.

Radames pulls no punches (no pun intended) on this episode as we explore his life being raised by a mother too young and emotionally unequipped to deal with raising a child after a horrific childhood of her own. Being a Ukrainian -Russian finding herself in Nazi Germany and eventually the United States after WWII is jaw dropping stuff that doesn’t seem real. Suffices to say, this Part one is a ‘buckle up, it’s going to be a bumpy ride’ episode. But it’s frankly just a palette cleanser for episode #2, coming next week. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story.

Today on this encore edition of the Rarified Heir Podcast we are talking to Nicky Trebek, daughter of Alex Trebek. Our conversation with Nicky was a fun one as host Josh Mills grew up on the same street as Nicky in the freewheelin’ 1970s San Fernando Valley and as we discuss those years as a starting point and off we went. Along the way we had many wonderful tangents including what famous director and his actress wife lived on that street, the personal connection their parents had with the Italian Stallion – Sylvester Stallone & his first wife Sasha, the NHL hockey connection that Alex had when the Los Angeles Kings played their games at the Fabulous Forum, the allure of Leif Garrett*, what it was like working on & with her dad on the game show Jeopardy!, Nicky’s mother Elaine who was a CBC broadcaster and even a discussion about fellow Canuck, comedian Eugene Levy whose impression of her dad on SCTV was letter perfect.

It was terrific to reconnect with Nicky as we learned so much about the icon as well as the father that was Nicky’s dad. We learned what times were best for taping Jeopardy! if you wanted to eat dinner at home and the personal battle Alex Trebek fought after a pancreatic cancer diagnosis that took his life only a year and a few months after his very public announcement. It’s one thing to be a fan pulling for Alex to get well, but it’s quite another to hear about his private battle behind the scenes. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story.

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast we’d like to wish you a Happy New Year 2024 with this encore episode for first episode of our third season. Our guest today is talking to musician Rachel Haden about her father, influential jazz bassist Charlie Haden. Rachel was kind enough to talk to us about so many things including her memories of growing up as a triplets and going for walks with jazz trumpeter Don Cherry when the Haden’s lived in New York. This led us down the path of many other genres of music including country, punk, jazz, indie rock and much.more as the Haden’s all sang and played instruments growing up. Thanks dad.

We learn about the Rachel’s time on the road with Todd Rundgren, her band That Dog, Brendan Perry of Dead Can Dance as well as Beck, Jimmy Eat World, Neil Hamburger and more. While we were at it we also discuss jaco Pastorius, Ornette Coleman, Ry Cooder, Jack White, Mike Watt and others. It’s a very fertile musical well we draw from when talking to a Haden family member like Rachel as there are so many avenues and styles of music she and her family are connected to.

The story spans 1930s Iowa where Charlie was part of The Haden Family Band, who rivaled the Carter Family in popularity in the Midwest and runs all the way to the 2020’s with the release of Rachel’s solo albums including making music with Charlie’s son-in-law, comedian Jack Black of Tenacious D. If you are a fan of music, this episode is the one for you. Take a listen, on the Rarified Heir Podcast encore edition with Rachel Haden, coming up here.

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to a Connecticut Yankee in Hal Prince’s Court. And while that might not make sense to you now, believe me, it will after you listen to this episode with guest Luke Yankee. Son of Oscar winning actress Eileen Heckart, Luke talked to us about his mother with great affection as well as great humor. You see Eileen didn’t suffer fools gladly and it made for some very pointed (but funny) asides which we read about in his book about his mother Just Outside the Spotlight and discuss here.

I ask you, on what other podcast can you hear first-hand accounts of both Soupy Sales and Elizabeth Ashley, Sophia Loren and Bette Davis as well as Marilyn Monroe and, you guessed it, Edie Adams? While Eileen’s love was Broadway and she played roles in everything from Butterflies Are Free to Barefoot in the Park, it was her roles in films lie The Bad Seed and the film version of Butterflies that fans might know her best from After all, she did win an Oscar for the latter and was nominated for the former.

Along the way we discuss roles as Aunt Flo on The Mary Tyler Moore Show, her drive for normalcy in New Canaan for her children and family while in show business and maybe one of the most poignant stories we’ve ever heard on this podcast that frankly, unexpectedly choked us up. Along the way we hear stories about the randy George Segal, the ‘bad boy’ Jack Cassidy and the play that Luke will have produced about his relationship with his mother in February 2024. So sit back and take a listen to this episode is the Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story.

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast…we bring you something very different. Today, we mixed up our format and decided to bring on three previous guests who have been on the podcast individually to see how it would work when we brought them all together. It was a bold experiment. Today we bring you Jenny Brill, Shawn Kay and Carnie Wilson, three friends who have known each other (and our host Josh Mills) since they were in pedal pushers. We really did try and get off on the right footing here and ask the pertinent questions but frankly, with this jovial bunch, it quickly evolved (or is it devolved?) into a nostalgic trip through memory lane of 1970s Los Angeles, swearing and grade school antics.

As any listener to this podcast knows, we talk a lot about the Oakwood School in Los Angeles quite often and because that’s where our guests solidified their friendship during the Carter Administration, this episode is one that gleefully goes off the rails almost from the word go. We discuss everything from the time Carnie and Shawn rode album covers down the carpeted stairs in the Wilson family home in Bel-Air, Jenny’s ‘on brand’ observations about the opposite sex, long gone beloved pets, carpools, famous children we all went to school with and famous Oakwood parents and more.

There was a lot of laughter, a few tears, a few a-ha moments and more twisted humor than you could find at one of our quarterly lunches. Ah the Rarified Heir Podcast, bringing people together. So how did the children of Mitzi McCall, John Kay, Brian Wilson & Merilyn Wilson get along? In a word? Famously.

This is the Rarified Heir Podcast. Take a listen.

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to professional photographer Donavan Freberg, son of actor, musician, author, advertising executive, comedian, musician & radio personality Stan Freberg & mother Donna Freberg. On the first part of this episode, we learn from Donavan about his years growing up in a somewhat dysfunctional (his words) but very loving home (also his words). We learn that every day was Christmas in the Freberg home and that school was more of an suggestion than a firm commitment. We also learn how and where Stan Freberg literally (my words, not his) came up with the term “Grammy”. 

On top of that we learn that mother Donna was Frank Sinatra’s assistant and likely was the person who booked both Stan and Josh’s mother Edie Adams on The Frank Sinatra Show in 1958. We also talk about Stan’s career in advertising where he won 21 Clio Awards, his puppet Orville the Moon Man and how his dad got into show business, when he literally (our words) got on a bus and said, “Take me to Hollywood,” and landed on the doorstep of a talent agent.

In the second half of this episode, Donavan was brutally honest & raw and frankly it gets a bit dark. We’ve tackled this topic of aging parents on previous episodes and it’s always a bit gut wrenching. It also hits home with our host Josh Mills who has his own story on this very topic. When hangers-on latch on to the celebrity, and look to grab whatever  specialness and the fame they crave for themselves,  in order to get what they want well…. take a listen to this episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story. And this one is all too familiar.

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast we are talking to someone who frankly, we didn’t know we absolutely needed to talk to a month ago. We are talking to actress/voice over artist Pamela Dillman. Pamela’s father was actor Bradford Dillman and her stepmother was supermodel, Suzy Parker. Yes, THAT Suzy Parker. But what makes this episode so special, at least for host Josh Mills, was that Pamela grew up with and was best friends with Josh’s sister Mia Kovacs. Sadly, Mia passed away in 1982 so there are very few people who remember Mia and who remember what she was like. So it was a true thrill for Josh to be able to ask Pamela questions about his sister as well as his mother Edie Adams.

We do our best to try and make sure we connect about Pamela’s life growing up in Beverly Hills at the very prim and proper John Thomas Dye school where she met Mia but also to talk about everything from how her father considered himself a working actor who just did his job and was honored to be an actor but how much of a cultural impact her stepmother Suzy made as literally the world’s first supermodel. Hell, The Beatles wrote a song about her!

So mea culpa (or would that be Mia culpa?), this episode does focus heavily on someone other than Pamela’s career and her famous parents. After all this is a podcast where a child of a celebrity interviews a child of a celebrity. But when you can finally talk to someone who knew your sibling when they were in elementary school, I hope you can forgive us for indulging a bit. Part therapy session, part remembrance and part fascinating foray into the San Francisco 49ers, RADA, moldy Chanel couture garments, Caesar’s Palace and Morgan Freeman, this episode of the podcast was a real thrill. Everyone has a story.

Today on another encore episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to Peter Ackerman, son of actress Elinor Donahue and television executive Harry Ackerman. Ironic isn’t it that just recently we have spoken to David Pressman, son of actor Lawrence Pressman who starred with Elinor in the short-lived TV show Mulligan’s Stew on episode #194 and here we are again discussing lost classic TV. No matter, because on this episode we really lock in on some iconic classic television shows which Peter discusses at length. Like what shows you ask? Nothing much really – just shows like I Love Lucy, Father Knows Best, Batman, The Monkees, Bewitched and other shows that were part of our childhood.

What’s more, Peter tells us what it was like from both in front of the camera and behind as well. With both parents traversing show business from different careers, Peter gives us a peek into what it was like growing up the child of a celebrity and the child of a Hollywood power broker. A unique story that is.

We loved hearing about Peter’s first kiss – from a fellow child of a celebrity while in grade school as well as the behind-the-scenes story of how and why, “Bewitched” ended. We also learn about how and why his mother left The Andy Griffith Show and much more. In fact, we got the story before his recent book, Mom, Dad, Me, and Classic TV - Growing Up with Classic Television's Harry Ackerman and Elinor Donahue was published earlier this year. So we consider this interview quite a scoop! If it sounds like a fun episode – it was. And this is only part one!

This is the Rarified Heir Podcast. Take a listen.

Today on part two of our interview with Lili Haydn on this episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we continue our story about how Lili grew up in the most unconventional way in Hollywood and came out of it a Grammy winner in spite of the amazing conclusion we discuss today.

In part one, Lili gave us the background on her mother Lotus Wienstock who was a trail blazing stand-up comedian who wrote books like The Lotus Position & opened The Comedy Store’s Belly Room for female comedians. She  found herself as one of the new faces of stand-up comedy just prior to the 80’s comedy boom that happened shortly thereafter. Lili’s bond with her mother was palpable in this episode but we also learn more about her father, a man named David Jove who counted among his friends the Grateful Dead’s L.S.D. connection/soundman Bear as well as musician Peter Ivers whose death as the host of a show conceived by Jove is still an unsolved mystery today,

This was one of those episodes that left us emotionally spent as Lili was incredibly open and honest about her complicated relationship with her father. She didn’t hold back which was a very brave thing to do in an interview and we thank her for it. Take a listen to part two of our interview w/ Lili Haydn on this episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast.

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast, we take a listen to part one of our conversation with Lili Haydn, the Grammy winning composer and performer who  has perhaps the most fascinating and most brutally honest story we’ve ever recorded. It was so jam packed and unbelievable that we didn’t even get a chance to ask her about what it was like starring in Easy Money with Rodney Dangerfield and Joe Pesci. And if you are a listener to this podcast, does that sound like something Josh would pass up? Well, part one of our interview with Lili will tell you all you need to know as to why.

Oh the things we learn on this episode. Lili and Josh connect on the fact that he was once at a Mose Allison show and Lili asked to perform with him at the Catalina in Los Angeles back in the 90s. What are the odds? But it’s Lili’s mother, stand-up comedian/writer Lotus Weinstock and her father David Jove that take up the bulk of the conversation. And for good reason. We touch on subjects as diverse as performing with Jimmy Page, her mother founding The Belly Room at The Comedy Store, Lenny Bruce, the infamous Redlands bust of the Rolling Stones, New Wave Theater, The Source Family, Stanley Owsley, Chevy Chase, Peter Ivers and Joan Rivers.

All we can tell you is that this barely scratches the surface. This part one episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast is one of the most intense, harrowing, amazing and truthful episodes we have ever done. Take a listen.

Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to actress and author Dinah Manoff. It was a real thrill to talk to Dinah about her own career – in iconic films like Grease and Child’s Play as well as her television career on shows like Soap and Empty Nest but we also loved talking about her mother, actress/director Lee Grant who is still with us at age 95. Or is it 97? Dates vary on the World Wide Web but either way we get to hear some fantastic stories about growing up the daughter of such a powerhouse entertainer.

Dinah was here to talk to us about her book The Real True Hollywood Story of Jackie Goldwhich was just released on audiobook and is out now. We spoke to Dinah about her not-too-far-off her own life book about a Hollywood actress who was either pushed or jumped & how she recounts her past from her hospital bed.

We also get to hear amazing stories about her mother and her early years dealing with being blacklisted, her roles in films like Shampoo where she won an Oscar as well as directing career. Dinah also talks to us her father, writer Arnold Manoff who wrote among many things, The Front about the blacklist. If names like Neil Simon, Marie Osmond and Marty Maraschino mean anything to you, you are in for a treat. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast.

Today on another encore edition of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we talk with Rain Pryor, daughter of the great comedian, writer and actor Richard Pryor. When you talk about stand-up comedy, Richard Pryor is a shoe-in to be on the Mount Rushmore of stand-up comedians. To this day, the legacy and humor Richard Pryor left behind is second to none and we talk about that with Rain along with much more.

Like her father, Rain does not pull punches and she doesn’t have an issue speaking her mind. We speak about race, religion, her Jewish mother, her Madam grandmother, her recent ascent into higher education, how ‘ho’s gotta eat too!’ as we discuss a wide range of topics. Along the way we learn about her scientist mother, how Rain had been to host Josh Mills’ house and he didn’t even know it, the chilly relationship she has with one of her father’s ex-wives, her many siblings, her dad’s drug use, her own search for normalcy and her years as a stand-up and actor in Hollywood.

Rain was a refreshing and wonderful interview and it was a huge thrill to talk to her as we REALLY wanted to talk to her for a very long time. So glad we got to and all you have to do is keep listening to the Rarified Heir Podcast like you are already to hear our conversation with Rain. Another child of a celebrity interviewed by the child of a celebrity. Everyone has a story.