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523 | How the Number One Tool for Mass Deportations Might be Unconstitutional w/Eric Fish08 oct. 202600:56:52

On this episode, Hunter speaks once again with Professor Eric Fish about a law review article he published about our immigration system. Since it was implemented in 1996, expedited removal has become the number one tool for deportations in America. However, Eric is here to explain how the whole system might be unconstitutional and ripe for challenge.

 

Guest:

Eric Fish, Professor of Law, UC Davis School of Law

 

Resource:

Read Eric's Article Here

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=6568060

 

Contact Eric

https://law.ucdavis.edu/people/eric-fish

Show note: Hunter mentions a U.S. citizen deported to Mexico after agents refused to let him get his birth certificate. That's Brian José Morales García, born in Denver and deported in April 2026 after a traffic stop in Texas. He returned to the United States on Aug. 30, 2026, after the federal government reached an agreement with his lawyers in his lawsuit. Read the Texas Tribune's reporting:
https://www.texastribune.org/2026/04/23/texas-united-states-citizen-deported-ice-detention-brian-morales/
https://www.texastribune.org/2026/08/30/texas-us-citizen-deported-central-texas-returns-america/

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522 | After Nearly Two Decades as an Immigration Judge, Why Did She Decide to Leave Under the Second Trump Administration? w/Judge Mimi Tsankov06 oct. 202600:57:21

On this episode, Hunter speaks with Judge Mimi Tsankov, former president of the National Association of Immigration Judges (NAIJ). Over nearly two decades on the bench, she served under five administrations and led the association that speaks for the country's immigration judges. Now she joins the show to explain what's broken in a court system that answers to the Justice Department, and why she decided to leave.

Guest:
Judge Mimi Tsankov, Former President, National Association of Immigration Judges

Resources:
Judge Tsankov's website: https://neutralstrategy.com
National Association of Immigration Judges: https://www.naij-usa.org/
TRAC Immigration: https://tracreports.org/immigration/reports/judgereports/00291NYC/index.html

 

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521 | How the Media is Missing What is Really Causing Alaska's Legal System to Fail w/Amanda Harber and David Case01 oct. 202601:00:36

In this episode, Hunter speaks with two criminal defense lawyers and former Public Defenders from the state of Alaska, Amanda Harber and David Case. For the entire 21st Century, the Alaska Legal System has been in a crisis. Too few lawyers. Too much space to cover. And recently, a tough on crime Governor who has pushed to solve social problems with incarceration. Along the way, many in the media have missed what is causing the Alaska legal system to fail.

 

Guest:

Amanda Harber, Criminal Defense Lawyer and Former Public Defender, Alaska

David Case, Criminal Defense Lawyer and Former Public Defender, Alaska

 

Resource:

Read More About Alaska Here


https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/crime-courts/2025/03/25/alaska-supreme-court-places-new-limits-on-pretrial-delays/

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/crime-courts/2025/02/14/alaskas-chief-justice-vows-to-reduce-trial-delays-we-must-and-we-will-improve/

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/crime-courts/2025/01/09/the-neverending-case-how-10-years-of-delays-have-prevented-a-horrendous-sexual-assault-allegation-from-going-to-trial/

https://www.adn.com/politics/alaska-legislature/2026/01/21/alaska-lawmaker-calls-for-hiring-more-prosecutors-and-public-defenders-to-reduce-extreme-delay-in-criminal-cases/

Contact Amdanda and David

https://www.49thstatelaw.com/

 

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520 | Can Prisons be Reformed? What History Tells Us About the Failed Attempts w/C.J. Ciaramella30 sept. 202601:05:18

On this episode, Hunter was joined by C.J. Ciaramella of Reason. Recently, C.J. authored an article for Reason that provides an overview of different eras of prison policy and failed reform. In their discussion, Hunter and C.J. explore these eras of prison policy, the reasons why reforms failed, and what those failures tell us about the hope for future prison reforms.

 

Guest:

C.J. Ciaramella, Reporter, Reason

 

Resource:

Read the Article Here

https://reason.com/2026/09/08/the-american-prison-experiment/

Find More of C.J. here

https://reason.com/people/cj-ciaramella/

https://bsky.app/profile/cjciaramella.bsky.social

Read More of Reason Here

https://reason.com/

 

 

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519 | How the Maryland Defender Union is Organizing for Better Working Conditions, Pay, and Workloads w/Rachel Kiefer, Alexis Rossetti, and Kalia Woods29 sept. 202601:19:43

On this episode, Hunter speaks with three members of the Maryland Defender Union, Rachel Kierfer, Alexis Rossetti, and Kalia Woods. They join to explain the recent victory the union secured to enforce their current contract and how the union is finding its voice to fight for better pay and workloads.

 

Guest:

Rachel Kiefer, Assistant Public Defender, Baltimore County, Maryland

Alexis Rossetti, Assistant Public Defender, Southern Maryland

Kalia Woods, Administrative Aide, Prince George's County, Maryland

 

Resource:

Read the Report Here

https://dbm.maryland.gov/budget/FY2026Testimony/C80B00.pdf

Follow the Union Here

https://www.instagram.com/marylanddefendersunion/ \

 

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518 | Did the Supreme Court Finally Ensure the Fourth Amendment Protects Our Data? Part 2 w/Andrew Ferguson24 sept. 202601:03:01

On this episode, Hunter speaks once again by Professor Andrew Ferguson to discuss the Fourth Amendment and the right to privacy. Previously, Hunter spoke with Jumana Musa of the Fourth Amendment Center to discuss the recent Supreme Court case of Chatrie v United States. Now, Andrew and Hunter theorize how this case might be used to further protect our data in this digital age.

 

Guest:

Andrew Ferguson, Professor of Law, GW School of Law

 

Resource:

Read Chatrie

https://www.scotusblog.com/cases/chatrie-v-united-states/

Read Andrew's Article Here 

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=7174398 

Read Judge Carlton Reeve's Decision

https://www.courtwatch.news/p/judge-rules-tower-dumps-search-inherently-unconstitutional

Contact the Fourth Amendment Center

https://www.nacdl.org/Landing/FourthAmendmentCenter

Contact Andrew

https://www.law.gwu.edu/andrew-guthrie-ferguson

  

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517 | Did the Supreme Court Finally Ensure the Fourth Amendment Protects Our Data? Part 1 w/Jumana Musa22 sept. 202601:02:20

On this episode, Hunter speaks once again Jumana Musa, Director of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyer's Fourth Amendment Center. Hunter and Jumana discuss the recent landmark case of Chatrie vs United States. In that case, the Supreme Court took a major step towards ensuring our data is protected by the Fourth Amendment.

 

Guest:

Jumana Musa, Director, Fourth Amendment Center, National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers

 

Resource:

Read Chatrie

https://www.scotusblog.com/cases/chatrie-v-united-states/

Read Judge Carlton Reeve's Decision

https://www.courtwatch.news/p/judge-rules-tower-dumps-search-inherently-unconstitutional

Contact the Fourth Amendment Center

https://www.nacdl.org/Landing/FourthAmendmentCenter

 

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516 | Will a New Commission Finally Get California to Fund Public Defense? w/Chesa Boudin17 sept. 202600:47:21

On this episode, Hunter spoke once again with Chesa Boudin. This time, the two discussed a new commission in California tasked with studying the best path forward for a state wide solution for Public Defense.

Guest:

Chesa Boudin, Executive Director, UC Berkeley Law's Criminal Law and Justice Center

Resource:

Learn More About the Commission Here

Follow Chesa's Work

https://www.law.berkeley.edu/research/criminal-law-and-justice-center/

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515 | How Public Defense is Failing in Rural California w/Rio Scharf and Josh Schwartz15 sept. 202600:54:48

In this episode, Hunter speaks with Rio Scharf and Josh Schwartz to discuss a report detailing the incredible failing of public defense in rural California.

 

Guest:

Rio Scharf, Staff Attorney, UC Berkeley Law's Criminal Law and Justice Center

Josh Schwartz, Principal, Wren Collective

 

Resource:

Read the Report Here:

https://wrencollective.org/contracted-to-fail-part-2-how-flat-fee-contracts-undermine-the-right-to-counsel-in-california/

 

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514 | How the Prison System fails to Offer Second Chances w/Jesse Crosson10 sept. 202601:01:53

In this episode, Hunter speaks with Jesse Crosson about his book The Best Part of Prison: The Power of Second Chances and Reclaiming Life Out of Darkness. Jesse spent nearly 20 years incarcerated for a robbery and non-fatal shooting. Now, he is describing his journey through the legal system, how he was able to get back on his feet, and how our current approach to giving people a second chance is woefully failing.

 Guest:

Jesse Crosson, Author, The Best Part of Prison: The Power of Second Chances and Reclaiming Life Out of Darkness

 

Resource:

Pick up a Copy of the Book Here

https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Best-Part-of-Prison/Jesse-Crosson/9781637748015?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=24186787124&gbraid=0AAAAADv-uEl7dSEWJK_Ld-ZgXzL0srEzj&gclid=Cj0KCQjwteTUBhD4ARIsAEYjs3pEPvLQ3xUroeMHBqjQl7-Z91iaFe5lplMmTHpV98KW6kEJq3yp3ZAaAgNwEALw_wcB

 

Follow Jesse Here

https://www.instagram.com/second_chancer434/?hl=en

https://jessecrosson.com/

 

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513 | How to Teach Kids to Think like a Public Defender w/Emily Galvin Almanza08 sept. 202600:54:02

In this episode, Hunter speaks once again with Emily Galvin Almanza about a new book she is publishing. While her last book sought to teach adults about the failings of our criminal legal system, Emily's newest book, Andromeda Diaz and the Reasonable Doubt, is aimed at teaching kids about legal principles through a public defender's lens. In doing so, Emily hopes to instill a different type of civic education in schools around the country.

 

Guest:

Emily Galvin Almanza, Co-Founder and Executive Director, Partners for Justice

 

Resource:

Pick up a Copy of the Book Here

https://www.amazon.com/Andromeda-Reasonable-Doubt-Galvin-Almanza/dp/B0G5WVXFSQ

 

Follow Emily's Work

https://www.emilygalvinalmanza.com/

https://www.instagram.com/galvinalmanza/?hl=en

 

Learn More About Partners for Justice

https://partnersforjustice.org/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=15231703396&gbraid=0AAAAAoL1I_LuXR_6d_5khg4qkdAQN6d77&gclid=Cj0KCQjwteTUBhD4ARIsAEYjs3otlUtZa1n7oPjFoT0NWL_Lg3CFUNJVuvKxK0xJQZKRHXg2j1D9zvkaAlSbEALw_wcB   

 

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512 | How Public Advocacy Secured Missouri Public Defenders Pay Parity and Much More w/Matthew Crowell and Jet McDonald03 sept. 202601:01:51

In this episode, Hunter revisits with Matthew Crowell, Director of the Missouri State Public Defender, and for the first time Jet McDonald, MSPD's newest Comms Strategist. They discussed how Matthew was able to use public and private advocacy to secure desperately needed pay raises for the system and their plans to continue expanding their public advocacy to fight for even more improvements to the system.

 

Guest:

Matthew Crowell, Director, Missouri State Public Defender

Jet McDonald, Communications Strategist, Missouri State Public Defender

 

Resource:

Learn More about the Office

https://publicdefender.mo.gov/

Contact Jet

Jet.McDonald@mspd.mo.gov

Read the Article Here

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/162r6fsCin_ROQLdhfgAYEZFpl1-HdujG?usp=drive_link

 

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511 | God Forgives, Brothers Don't: The Long March of Military Education and the Making of American Manhood w/Jasper Craven01 sept. 202601:09:16

On this episode, Hunter spoke with Jasper Crave, author of the book God Forgives, Brothers Don't: The Long March of Military Education and the Making of American Manhood. While this episode takes us away from the world of Public Defense, this conversation is an illuminating look at how military education like JROTC, ROTC, and the Service Academies help shape American masculinity. By understanding the culture inculcated at these institutions, we are better able to understand how that hyper violent culture spreads to police departments and other young men around the country.

 

Guest:

Jasper Craven, Investigative Reporter

 

Resource:

Follow More of Jasper's Work Here

https://x.com/Jasper_Craven

 

Pick up a copy of the book Here:

 

https://bookshop.org/p/books/god-forgives-brothers-don-t-the-long-march-of-military-education-and-the-making-of-american-manhood-jasper-craven/ff6d1cf46c2d9b69

 

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510 | What are a Defense Lawyer's Ethical Obligations When They Use A.I.? w/Mason Clark27 août 202601:11:08

On this episode, Professor Mason Clark joins to discuss a new white paper he authored for the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers titled Parity in Practice: The Defender's Duty to Ethically Use AI.

 

Guest:

Mason Clark, Associate Professor of Law, St. Mary's School of Law, Texas

 

Resource:

Read the Report Here

https://www.nacdl.org/Document/ParityinPracticeDefenderAIUse

 

Contact Mason Here

https://law.stmarytx.edu/academics/faculty/mason-clark/

 

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509 | How to Create Workload Standards for Public Defenders w/Malia Brink25 août 202601:04:08

Since the release of the National Public Defender Workload Study, Malia Brink travelled the country helping Public Defenders create and implement workload standards. Now, she joins the show to discuss the new tool the Deason Center created to help Public Defenders create their own workload standards.

 

Guest:

Malia Brink, Policy Director, Deason Criminal Justice Reform Center, Southern Methodist University

 

Resource:

Deason Center Website

https://www.smu.edu/law/centers-and-initiatives/deason-center

Access the Workload Tool Here

https://www.smu.edu/law/centers-and-initiatives/deason-center/work/news/articles/2026-7-28-workload-release

 

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508 | Will Underfunding Push the Defenders Association of Philadelphia to Stop Accepting New Cases? w/Keisha Hudson20 août 202601:06:10

In the last budget cycle, Keisha Hudson, Chief Defender of the Defender Association of Philadelphia, asked the city for $5 million. Instead, the city council and the mayor gave her office $0. Now, Keisha is looking at cutting back client services and even potentially refusing to accept new DUI and drug possession cases. On this episode, you will hear Keisha explain how this all happened and what comes next for the office.

 

Guest:

Keisha Hudson, Chief Public Defender, Defender Association of Philadelphia

 

Resource:

Defender Association of Philadelphia's Contact

https://phillydefenders.org/

https://www.facebook.com/phillydefenders/

https://www.instagram.com/phillydefenders/

https://x.com/phillydefenders/

 

 

 

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507 | Robin "Rocky" Myers was Wrongfully Convicted of Murder. Was his Defense Lawyer in the Ku Klux Klan? w/Leah Nelson18 août 202601:25:04

The State of Alabama sentenced Robin "Rocky" Myers to death after he was convicted of murder in 1994. Over the next 30 years, Rocky fought to prove his innocence, and with each passing year, the evidence of his innocence continued to grow. There was a lack of DNA evidence. Inconsistent witness testimony. Police and Prosecutorial misconduct. On top of all that, there were serious problems with the verdict itself. Taken together, these factors pushed Governor Kay Ivey to commute Rocky's death sentence. Yet, Rocky is still serving a life sentence. Now, our guest, Leah Nelson, is here to present evidence that Rocky's trial lawyer might have been in the Ku Klux Klan.

 

Guest:

Leah Nelson, Special Investigator, Alabama

 

Resource:

Justice 4 Rocky Website

https://www.justice4rockymyers.com/

Undisclosed Podcast

https://www.undisclosedpod.com/seasons-cases/rockymyers

https://open.spotify.com/episode/40VBEwOtdaO6suwPRx8SLa

 

 

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506 | Pink Crime: How to Fight the Criminalization of Motherhood, Pregnancy, and Queer Identity w/Valena Beety13 août 202601:08:50

Hunter is joined once again by Professor Valena Beety. Valena joins the show to discuss her new book, Pink Crime: Fighting Against the Criminalization of Motherhood, Pregnancy, and Queer Identity. In it, she discusses the cognitive biases, junk sciences, and the systemic policies used to surveil, police, and incarcerate women and queer communities.

 

Guest:

Valena Beety, Professor of Law, Indiana School of Law

 

Resource:

Pick up a Copy of the Book Here

https://thenewpress.org/books/pink-crime/

 

Contact Valena

https://www.linkedin.com/in/valenabeety/

https://law.indiana.edu/about/people/details?name=beety-valena

https://valenabeetyjd.com/

 

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505 | Will Automation Make it Harder to Keep Junk Science out of Court? w/Lisa Waters11 août 202600:56:09

Hunter is joined once again by Professor Lisa Waters to discuss her law review article, Automating Junk Science. In it, Lisa details a troubling trend where police officers are using automated technology to "verify" that gun matches a bullet found at the scene of a crime. The only problem? The underlying tool mark science is complete junk. How can defenders respond to this automation of Junk Science? Lisa offers a few insights.

 

 

Guest:

Lisa Waters, Professor of Law, CUNY School of Law, New York

 

Resource:

Read the Article Here

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5440637

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https://www.law.cuny.edu/faculty-profile/lisa-waters/#profile

 

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504 | By Helping Victims and Perpetrators, Domestic Violence can Be Solved Without Relying on the Criminal Legal System w/Liz Ortenburger06 août 202601:02:21

Hunter is joined by Liz Ortenburger, the CEO of Safe Nest. Liz and her team at Safe Nest operate a shelter and aid center for victims and perpetrators of domestic violence. As Liz sees it, the conventional approach to domestic violence, policing and incarceration, is simply insufficient to end the cycles of violence that lead to domestic violence. Liz joined the show to discuss the different approach Safe Nest takes to try and eradicate domestic violence.

 

Guest:

Liz Ortenburger, CEO, Safe Nest, Clark County, Nevada

 

Resource:

Check out Safe Nest Here

https://safenest.org/

 

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503 | Why is the NDS Union on Strike? UPDATE THEY WON!! w/Ashley Munger, Katherine Shamsie, and Samantha Rudelich04 août 202601:08:34

Breaking  news: As the evening of Aug 4, the NDS Union won a contract!!

 

Hunter is joined by Ashley Munger, Katherine Shamsie, and Samantha Rudelich of the NDS Union. The union, representing NDS Harlem, NDS Detroit, and NDS Texas, have been on strike. Hunter sits down with them to discuss why they went on strike, what they hope to accomplish, and what management needs to do to end this strike.  

  

Guest:

Ashley Munger, Staff Attorney, Criminal Division, NDS Detroit

Katherine Shamsie, Staff Attorney, Criminal Division, NDS Texas

Samantha Rudelich, Staff Attorney, Family Defense Division, NDS Harlem

 

Resource:

SUPPORT THE STRIKE FUND HERE

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502 | How a Not Guilty Verdict in a Homicide Case Shows the Promise of Idaho's Statewide Public Defense System w/Eric Fredericksen and Doug Nelson30 juil. 202600:52:26

Today, Hunter was joined once again by two guests from the Idaho State Public Defender System. Eric Fredericksen, State Public Defender, and Doug Nelson, Litigation Director, join the show to provide an update on the Idaho State System and to highlight a case that shows why the state wide system is better for the people of Idaho.

 

 

Guest:

Eric Fredericksen, State Public Defender, Idaho

Doug Nelson, Litigation Director, Idaho

 

Resource:

Learn More about the System Here

https://spd.idaho.gov/

 

 

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501 | Why Public Defenders Need the Insights and Expertise of Formerly Incarcerated People in Their Offices w/Jennifer Jennison and Sammy Provencio28 juil. 202600:58:20

Hunter is joined once again by Jennifer Jennison and joining us for the first time is Sammy Provencio. After spending more than 30 years in custody, Sammy has joined the Stanislaus County Public Defender Office to help run their newest community-centred initiative, the Hub. Jennifer and Sammy join the show to share what the Hub is, what it does, and to share the power of having formerly incarcerated people work in a Public Defender Office.

 

Guest:

Jennifer Jennison, Chief Public Defender, Stanislaus County, California

Sammy Provencio, Client Support Specialist, Group Facilitator, Stanislaus County, California

 

Resource:

Learn More Here

https://www.stancounty.com/publicdefender/

https://www.instagram.com/p/DVhDRWsEoYD/

https://www.facebook.com/thehubcenterforchange/

 

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500 | Public Defense is Underfunded, but by How Much? Putting a Conservative Number on the Cost of the Right to Counsel w/Ben Polk23 juil. 202600:55:52

Hunter is joined by Ben Polk, Director of the Transformative Justice Project at New York University School of Law, Robert and Helen Bernstein Institute for Human Rights to discuss a recent law review article he authored where he conservatively estimated it would cost $28 billion to fund Public Defense nationwide.

   

Guest:

Ben Polk, Director, Transformative Justice Project and Research Scholar, New York University School of Law,  Robert and Helen Bernstein Institute for Human Rights,

Resource:

Read the Article Here

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=6359060

 

Ben's Faculty Page

https://www.law.nyu.edu/centers/bernstein-institute/team

 

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499 | When Delays in the Appointment of Counsel Violate the Constitution w/Eve Primus21 juil. 202601:08:23

Hunter is joined once again by Professor Eve Primus to discuss another excellent law review article about Public Defense. This time, Professor Primus details how delays in the appointment of counsel can and do create Constitutional violations that PDs can challenge.

 

 

Guest:

Eve Primus, Professor of Law, University of Michigan

 

Resource:

Read the Article Here

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=6288018

 

Contact Eve

https://michigan.law.umich.edu/faculty-and-scholarship/our-faculty/eve-brensike-primus

 

MDefenders

https://michigan.law.umich.edu/mdefenders

 

 

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498 | How the Allegheny County Public Defender is Getting their Clients Out of Custody and into Care w/Alena Chulick16 juil. 202600:53:40

Today, Hunter was joined by Alena Chulick, the Co-Founder and Project Manager of Project Rehabilitate out of the Allegheny County Public Defender. Thanks to a federal grant, Project Rehabilitate has been able to keep people out of custody and kept them in the care they need to get back on their feet.

 

Guest:

Alena Chulick, Co-Founder and Project Manager, Project Rehabilitate, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania

 

Resource:

Project Rehabilitate

https://www.alleghenycounty.us/Government/Court-Related/Public-Defender/Project-Rehabilitate

Allegheny County PD Website

https://www.alleghenycounty.us/Government/Court-Related/Public-Defender\

 

 

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497 | How Did the Tribal Defenders Office of the Confederated Salish and Kootenai Tribes Build a Model Holistic Defender Service w/Ann Miller, Susette Billedeaux, and Josh Cahoon14 juil. 202601:02:11

Today, Hunter was joined by Ann Miller, Susette Billedeaux, and Josh Cahoon from the Tribal Defenders Office of the Confederated Salish and Kootenai Tribes. They joined the show to the tell the history of this office and how they've built it into a model holistic office.

 

 

Guest:

Ann Miller, Managing Attorney, Tribal Defenders Office of the Confederated Salish and Kootenai Tribes, Montana

Susette Billedeaux, Holistic Programming Director Tribal Defenders Office of the Confederated Salish and Kootenai Tribes, Montana

Josh Cahoon, Lead Case Manager Tribal Defenders Office of the Confederated Salish and Kootenai Tribes, Montana

 

 

Resource:

 

https://cskt.org/tribal-defenders-office/

 

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496 | Why the Lawyers Handling 80% of Massachusetts's Public Defender Cases Stopped Taking New Cases Part 2 w/Shira Diner09 juil. 202600:55:30

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Professor Shira Diner. Last time she was on the show, she explained why the bar advocates in Massachusetts stopped accepting new cases. This time, she joins to explain how the Legislature and Judiciary responded and what comes next for the state.  

 

Guest:

Shira Diner, Professor of Law, Boston University

 

Resource:

 

Read the Case Here

 

https://statecourtreport.org/case-tracker/committee-public-counsel-services-v-middlesex-and-suffolk-county-district-courts

 

Updated Coverage

https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2026-03-17/following-high-court-ruling-mass-bar-advocates-turn-to-lobbying-lawmakers

https://www.masslive.com/news/2026/05/defense-lawyers-sue-over-mass-law-they-say-stops-them-from-fighting-for-better-pay.html

https://www.bostonherald.com/2026/04/04/massachusetts-continues-to-address-bar-advocate-shortage-with-incentive-plan/

 

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495 | Will a Severe Budget Deficit in Santa Clara County Require the Public Defender to Stop Taking New Cases? w/Damon Silver07 juil. 202601:16:51

Today, Hunter was joined by Damon Silver Chief Defender of the Santa Clara County Public Defender. Home to Silicon Valley, Santa Clara County is struggling with a large budget deficit due to federal budget cuts. As such, the Public Defender Office has lost full time positions and is facing a severe workload crisis.

 

Guest:

Damon Silver, Chief Public Defender, Santa Clara County, California

 

Resource:

 

Read More Here

https://sanjosespotlight.com/santa-clara-county-public-defenders-crushed-by-caseloads/

https://www.sfgate.com/news/bayarea/article/san-jose-spotlight-santa-clara-county-public-22236000.php

 

 

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494 | Why did the Spokane County Public Defenders Sue the County Over New Workload Requirements? w/Colin Charbonneau and Victoria Blumhorst02 juil. 202601:07:24

Today, Hunter was joined by Colin Charbonneau and Victoria Blumhorst, two Public Defender leaders from Spokane, Washington. They joined the show to explain why they decided to sue their county over the workload standards the county recently imposed.

 

Guest:

Colin Charbonneau, Director, Spokane County Public Defenders, Washington

Victoria Blumhorst, Director, Counsel for Defense, Spokane, Washington

 

Resource:

Read the Complaint Here

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1j9QTRxm6VXpiZQTmvdkgY9HHwgauBt_L?usp=drive_link

 

Read more about the story here

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2026/may/11/public-defenders-sue-spokane-county-over-work-stan/

https://www.kxly.com/news/public-defenders-sue-spokane-county-over-excessive-caseloads/article_fc46807b-d0f0-4171-9533-0c5acdf2a59f.html

https://www.inlander.com/news/spokane-county-public-defenders-challenge-their-caseloads-in-court-and-at-the-bargaining-table/article_e883ca3a-4f51-4373-959c-2684f35ccf31.html

https://www.spokanecounty.gov/m/newsflash/home/detail/6067

https://www.krem.com/article/news/local/spokane-county-sued-public-defender-caseload-limits/293-568f4e4c-a03c-4671-a74f-d3c0fcf081ec

https://www.spokanecounty.gov/m/newsflash/Home/Detail/6049

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CHARBONNEAU@spokanecounty.gov

vblumhorst@spokanecounty.gov

 

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493 | Two Oregon Public Defenders Sued the Oregon Public Defense Commission and Won. Now What? w/Shannon Wilson and Stacey Lowe30 juin 202601:13:22

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Shannon Wilson and Stacey Lowe. The last time these two Public Defender Leaders in Oregon were on the show, they discussed why they were suing the Oregon Public Defense Commission. Today, they join to discuss their victory in court and what it means for Public Defense in Oregon.

 

  *** Note for the show: After recording, editing and publishing the show, Carl McPherson, the Executive Director of The Metropolitan Public Defender in Portland, responded to my request for comment with the following statement: "Regarding the current contract, our office is already using an internal workload model and believe we have ethical caseloads.  So, the lawsuit is not impacting our current practice.  The lawsuit will impact negotiations for our next contract (and terms) that will begin on July 1, 2027." Please keep that in mind when you listen to the episode! 

 

Guest:

Shannon Wilson, Executive Director, Public Defender of Marion County Inc., Oregon

Stacey Lowe, Executive Director, South West Oregon Public Defender Services, Oregon

 

Resource:

Check out the Trial Transcript Here

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LoISTUXKRJ8lO9W7uogBRW9l3bf_1UR9?usp=drive_link

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https://www.pdmarion.org/

 

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492 | How Will Pennsylvania Respond to its Supreme Court Striking Down Mandatory LWOP for Felony Murder Convictions? w/Nia Holston and Sean Damon25 juin 202601:10:29

Today, Hunter was joined by Nia Holston from the Abolitionist Law Center and Sean Damon of Straight-Ahead to discuss a case out of Pennsylvania. In Commonwealth v. Lee, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court  struck down mandatory life without the possibility of parole for felony murder convictions because those sentences violated the states prohibition on cruel punishments.

 

 

Guest:

Nia Holston, Staff Attorney, Abolitionist Law Center

Sean Damon, Director of Strategic Partnerships, Straight-Ahead

 

Resource:

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https://statecourtreport.org/case-tracker/commonwealth-v-lee

Contact ALC and Straight-Ahead

https://abolitionistlawcenter.org/person/nia-holston/

sean@straight-ahead.org

 

 

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491 | The Hidden Punishments in Pre-Trial Detention That Disproportionately Impact LGBTQ People w/Deborah Lolai24 juin 202601:01:18

Today, Hunter was joined by Professor Deborah Lolai to discuss her law review article, Out of the Closet, in on Bail. In the article, Deborah details the systemic issues within the bail system, especially as they relate to LGBTQ+ individuals. She explores how pretrial detention disproportionately impacts queer and trans people and how Public Defenders can help get their clients the individualized considerations they deserve.

 

Guest:

Deborah Lolai, Clinical Professor and Lecturer, Harvard Law  

 

Resource:

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https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5172965

 

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490 | How the Civil Rights Corps Secured a Massive Victory in the Fight Against Cash Bail w/Salil Dudani and Carson White23 juin 202600:58:34

Hunter is joined by Salil Dudani and Carson White from the Civil Rights Corps. Since they were founded, the Civil Rights Corps has been one of the leaders in the fight to end cash bail. Today, Carson and Salil joined to explain the recent California Supreme Court Case, In re Gerald Kowalczyk, and what it means for the fight against cash bail.  

 

 

Guest:

Carson White, Supervising Attorney, Civil Rights Corps

Salil Dudani, Senior Attorney, Civil Rights Corps

 

Resource:

More from Civil Rights Corps Here

https://civilrightscorps.org/case/kowalczyk-california-bail-pretrial-detention/

 

Read the Case Here

https://courts.ca.gov/opinion/published/2026-04-30/s277910

 

 

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489 | Why did a 35 Year Career Prosecutor Walk Away from the DOJ Under the Second Trump Administration? w/John Haried18 juin 202601:04:12

Today, Hunter was joined by John Haried a career prosecutor in the Department of Justice. After more than 30 years with the Department, John walked away after seeing the abuses in under the Second Trump Administration. Today, he joined the show to help us understand why he left.

 

Guest:

John Haried, Former Director of Electronic Litigation, Department of Justice

 

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488 | How Public Defenders Can Fight for Our Clients and for Funding by Engaging with the Media w/Maggie Shepard and Bob McGovern16 juin 202601:03:10

Today, Hunter was joined by Maggie Shepard and Bob McGovern. Bob and Maggie serve as communications directors for Public Defender agencies, and they joined to discuss how they are helping Public Defenders better engage with the media.

 

Guest:

Maggie Shepard, Director of Communications, Law Offices of the Public Defender, New Mexico

Bob McGovern, Director of Communications and Special Counsel, Committee for Public Counsel Services, Massachusetts

 

Resource:

New Mexico LOPD

https://www.lopdnm.us/offices/

CPCS

https://www.publiccounsel.net/

 

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maggie.shepard@lopdnm.us

 

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487 | Iowa Public Defender Secured a Major Victory for Workload Controls, but will New Tough on Crime Policies Send the System into a Crisis? w/Eric Tindal11 juin 202601:09:31

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Eric Tindal, a criminal defense lawyer in Iowa. He joined to explain issues Public Defenders in Iowa are facing. While the contract system is on the verge of breaking, the Public Defenders secured a major win for the right to stand up against excessive workloads. With the challenges the system faces, the two discuss if new tough on crime polices will be the straw that breaks the camels back?

 

Guest:

Eric Tindal, Criminal Defense Lawyer, Iowa

 

Resource:

Contact Eric

eric@keeganlegal.com

 

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486 | How to Ensure Local Governments Cannot Cooperate with Federal Immigration Enforcement w/Alex Kornya09 juin 202601:10:45

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Alex Kornya. In this episode, Alex and Hunter discuss a range of topics including court fines and fees in Iowa and how to pass policies that stop local governments from co-operating with federal immigration enforcement.

 

Guest:

Alex Kornya, Litigation Director, Legal Aid Justice Center, Virginia

 

 

Resource:

No Immigration Fines

https://noimmigrationfines.org/

 

Legal Aid Justice Center

https://www.justice4all.org/

 

Ability to Pay Calculator

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485 | Will Utah Force Homeless People to Move to a Camp Outside of Salt Lake City? w/Nate Crippes04 juin 202600:59:02

Today, Hunter was joined by Nate Crippes of the Disability Law Center in Utah. Nate joined to discuss the proposed 1,300 bed homeless camp that might be built outside of Salt Lake City. Hunter and Nate discussed why this is happening, the danger it poses to the homeless community of Salt Lake City, and what Public Defenders can do to better represent those who are homeless or who have disabilities.

 

Guest:

Nate Crippes, Public Affairs Supervising Attorney, Disability Law Center, Salt Lake City, Utah

 

Resource:

DLC Website

https://disabilitylawcenter.org/

 

Learn More About the Camp Here

https://utahnewsdispatch.com/2025/09/03/utah-homeless-campus-site-unveiled-after-secretive-search/

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/04/us/politics/utah-homeless-camp-stalls.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/29/us/politics/utah-trump-homeless-campus.html

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2025/11/19/massive-slc-homeless-shelter-plan/

 

 

 

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484 | How the Hamilton County, Ohio Public Defenders are Holding Police and Prosecutors Accountable w/Angela Chang and Sean Vicente02 juin 202600:57:22

Today, Hunter was joined by Angela Chang and Sean Vicente of the Hamilton County, Ohio Public Defender Office. They joined the show to explain how they, along with their community, are fighting to hold police and prosecutors accountable for their unethical and illegal actions.

 

Guest:

Angela Chang, Youth Defense Director, Hamilton County Public Defender, Ohio

Sean Vicente, Municipal Director, Hamilton County Public Defender, Ohio

 

 

Resource:

Contact the PDs

https://www.hamiltoncountypd.org/

https://www.instagram.com/hamcopubdef/

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Issues around policing/accountability and intersection with discovery/defense

    1. Overview of Cincinnati Collaborative Agreement 
      1. https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/police/collaborative-agreement-refresh/
      2. https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/police/collaborative-agreement-refresh/documents-and-media-resources/

Discussion of Ohio Public Records law change/ attempts to circumvent discovery exchange by the prosecutor/police

    1. https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-149.43
      1. The bill with the redlined amendments https://www.legislature.ohio.gov/legislation/135/hb265 
    1. https://www.wosu.org/politics-government/2025-11-25/ohio-supreme-court-rules-police-officer-identities-can-be-hidden-from-public-under-marsys-law
    2. https://www.cleveland.com/news/2025/06/ohio-lawmakers-step-back-from-sweeping-police-secrecy-measure.html

 

 

 

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483 | How Progressive Politics can Abolish ICE and Build a More Humane Immigration System w/Senator Julie Gonzales29 mai 202600:45:18

Today, Hunter was joined by Colorado State Senator Julie Gonzales. Senator Gonzales was instrumental in shaping Colorado's progressive immigration policies. She is running against Senator John Hickenlooper in the Democratic primary for Colorado's Senate seat. Julie hopes that she will be able to bring her progressive politics to D.C. so she can challenge the status quo.

 

Guest:

Julie Gonzales, Colorado State Senator and Candidate for U.S. Senate

 

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482 | How the Colorado State Public Defender's Policy on Workloads Might Violate a Lawyer's Ethical Obligations w/Jim Castle28 mai 202601:03:31

Today, Hunter was joined by long time criminal defense lawyer Jim Castle. Jim is here to help people understand the legal ethics related to workload limits and to explain where the Office of the State Public Defender gets these ethics wrong.

 

Guest:

Jim Castle, Criminal Defense Lawyer, Colorado

 

Resource:

Google Drive with Relevant Documents 

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NVuuL9L6BUH8xBggXKnUMvsqJvSygk38?usp=drive_link

 

Link to ABA Formal Opinion 06-441

https://www.in.gov/ccaa/files/ABA.Ethics06-441.pdf

 

 

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481 | Was a Former Colorado Public Defender Fired for Raising Concerns over his Workload? Part 2 w/Travis Weiner27 mai 202602:11:57

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Travis Weiner, the former Colorado Public Defender who is suing the Colorado Public Defender System. On a previous episode, Travis detailed that he sued the state because he believed that OSPD retaliated against him for trying to do something about his unethical workloads. Today, Travis joins to discuss the most recent substantive hearing in his case to discuss the important take aways.

 

Guest:

Travis Weiner, Public Defender, New Mexico

 

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480 | Did the Colorado Public Defender Retaliate Against Me for My Speech on the Podcast?26 mai 202601:30:43

Today, Hunter shared the results of unfair labor complaint against the Colorado State Public Defender system.


 

Guest:

 

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479 | What Data Tells Us About the Public Defender Well Being Crisis Part 2 w/Jenny Andrews, Matthew Thiese, and Sara McCarthy21 mai 202601:01:55

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Jenny Andrews and for the first time Matthew Thiese and Sarah McCarthay. As was the case on Tuesday, this episode is a continued discussion about the National Public Defender Well-Being Study. This time, the focus is on the upcoming phase two that people can participate in starting June 1.

 

 

 

Guest:

 

Jenny Andrews, Director, Be Sustained

 

Matthew These Ph.D., Professor, Utah University School of Medicine

 

Sarah McCarthy, Chief Assistant Public Defender, Santa Clara, California

 

Resource:

 

Find Everything About the Study Here

 

https://besustained.org/

 

Contact Matthew Here

 

https://medicine.utah.edu/faculty/matthew-s-thiese

 

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478 | The Effect of Public Defender and Support Staff Caseloads on Incarceration Outcomes for Felony Defendants w/Aaron Gottlieb and Melissa Mahabir20 mai 202600:51:27

Today, Hunter was joined by Aaron Gottlieb and Melissa Mahabir to discuss how excessive workloads drive worse outcomes for the people public defenders work for.

Guest:

Aaron Gottlieb, Associate Professor, University of Chicago Crown Family School of Social Work, Policy and Practice

Melissa Mahabir, Social Worker and Former Mitigation Specialist

Resource:

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https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/712924

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https://crownschool.uchicago.edu/directory/aaron-gottlieb

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477 | What Data Tells Us About the Public Defender Well Being Crisis Part 1 w/Jenny Andrews and Jon Jachimowicz19 mai 202601:13:07

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Jenny Andrews and for the first time Professor Jon Jachimowicz. Over the past year, Jenny, Jon, and the amazing team working with Be Sustained have been conducting a study about Public Defender Well Being. This episode details the findings from phase one of that study.

 

Guest:

Jenny Andrews, Director, Be Sustained

Jon Jachimowicz, Assistant Professor, Harvard Business School

 

Resource:

Find Everything About the Study Here

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https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/profile.aspx?facId=1175257

 

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476 | What Can Public Defender Organizations Do to Help People With Their Student Debt? w/Jane Fox and Alexi Shalom14 mai 202601:07:12

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Jane Fox and for the first time Alexi Shalom. These two have been working tirelessly to develop programs that can help members of their union deal with crushing student debt. Today, these two join to explain those programs and what else Public Defender leaders can do to help their people with student debt.

 

 

 

Guest:

Jane Fox, Legal Aid Society and Unit Chair, ALAA Local 2325

Alexi Shalom, Ed Rep, UAW Region 9A

 

Resource:

Learn More Here

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475 | Why is Cook County's State Attorney Fighting to Keep Exonerated People From Getting Certificates of Their Innocence w/Dan Hinkel13 mai 202600:58:16

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Dan Hinkel. Dan is an investigative journalist with Injustice Watch, and today, he joined the show to talk about the third instalment of his series called "Denying Innocence." This series details how the new Cook County State Attorney, Eileen O'Neil Burke has changed how her office handles wrongful convictions. This episode is about how Burke's office is now fighting to keep exonerated people from getting certificates to show their innocence.

 

 

 

Guest:

Dan Hinkel, Investigative Journalist, Injustice Watch

 

Resource:

Read the Series Here:

https://www.injusticewatch.org/projects/denying-innocence/

 

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474 | The Lawyer Who Will Take on Corporations and Corrupt Government as Colorado's Attorney General w/David Seligman12 mai 202601:02:57

Today, Hunter was joined by David Seligman, a civil rights, workers' rights, consumers' rights lawyer and candidate for Attorney General in Colorado. David joined the show to discuss why he decided to run and the ambitious plans he has to use the office of the Attorney General to fight for working class Coloradans.

 

 

 

Guest:

David Seligman, Candidate for Attorney General, Colorado

 

Resource:

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