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| 414. The Disengaged Teen with Rebecca Winthrop and Jenny Anderson | 02 Jul 2025 | 01:10:15 | |
Why do so many kids seem unmotivated at school, and what can we do about it? In this episode of Psychologists Off the Clock, we’re taking a look at what’s really going on with student engagement, especially during those tricky adolescent years. Our guests, Rebecca Winthrop and Jenny Anderson, co-authors of The Disengaged Teen, join Emily to break it all down. From the four types of learners—the Passenger, Achiever, Resistor, and Explorer—to how we can help kids tap into curiosity and motivation, this conversation is full of eye-opening insights for both parents and educators. They also unpack the pressures of today’s achievement culture, the influence of tech and AI, and most importantly, how parents and teachers can support teens in becoming more confident, engaged learners. Listen and Learn:
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https://www.instagram.com/drrebeccawinthrop/?hl=en https://x.com/rebeccawinthrop?lang=en https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-winthrop-b36b0617
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jennyandersonnyt https://x.com/jwestanderson?lang=en https://www.instagram.com/jennyandersonwrites/?hl=en About Rebecca Winthrop and Jenny Anderson Rebecca Winthrop is a leading global authority on education, the director of the Center for Universal Education at Brookings and an adjunct professor at Georgetown University. She is dedicated to ensuring that every child has the opportunity to thrive in life, work, and as an engaged citizen. She leads cutting-edge research and initiatives aimed at transforming education systems around the world to better support children's learning and development. Rebecca is a trusted advisor to both school communities and national and international organizations. Her expertise is sought by many including parent networks, schools, district education leaders, the White House, the United Nations, and Fortune 500 companies. Rebecca's work is centered on developing and advocating for evidence-based strategies that bring people together—families, educators, policymakers, and companies—to help children maximize their potential. She holds a PhD from Columbia University’s Teachers College, an MA from its School of International and Public Affairs, and a BA from Swarthmore College. Jenny Anderson is an award-winning journalist, author, and speaker with more than 25 years of experience. Her work has appeared in some of the world’s leading publications, including The New York Times, where she was on staff for 10 years, TIME, The Atlantic, the Wall Street Journal and Quartz. Related Episodes:
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| 413. Validate with Caroline Fleck | 25 Jun 2025 | 00:57:00 | |
What’s a skill that can instantly improve your relationships, communication, and even your influence? In this episode, Yael talks with Caroline Fleck, a licensed psychologist and author of Validation, to unpack exactly that. Caroline explains what validation really is, how it’s different from empathy or sympathy, and why it can be so powerful in both personal and professional relationships. They walk you through how validation first gained traction in therapy, especially in dialectical behavior therapy, and Caroline shares simple techniques like attending, copying, and proposing that anyone can use. You’ll get Caroline’s take on the challenge of validating someone when you strongly disagree, the role of self-disclosure in connection, and how our understanding of emotions has shifted from classic microexpressions to a more nuanced view of emotional experience. If you’re looking for practical ways to build better relationships and truly connect, this episode is full of insight. Listen and Learn:
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About Caroline Fleck: Dr. Caroline Fleck is a licensed psychologist, writer, and corporate consultant who has served as a supervisor and consultant for some of the most rigorous training programs in the country, including Dr. Marsha Linehan’s program at the University of Washington, the Department of Psychiatry at Stanford Medical Center, and the VA Palo Alto. She is a respected voice in psychology and has been featured in national media outlets, including The New York Times, Good Morning America, and The Huffington Post. Her new book, which we’re here to discuss, is the first of its kind to make the specialized validation skills therapists master to get through to anyone available to everyone. Related Episodes:
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| 404. Raising Loving Siblings with Jonathan Caspi | 23 Apr 2025 | 01:02:09 | |
You’ve tried reasoning with your kids, setting boundaries, and even taking away privileges, but the conflict just keeps bubbling up. When nothing seems to calm the chaos, where can you turn as a parent who’s simply worn out and craving peace in your home? For this conversation, Emily brings in guest Dr. Jonathan Caspi, an internationally recognized sibling expert and professor at Montclair State University. Jonathan offers insights from his book, Raising Loving Siblings, on the parental role in sibling conflict, the importance of sibling closeness, and strategies to manage and improve sibling relationships. Tune in if you are interested in learning about parental involvement and guidance for cultivating positive sibling relationships and reducing conflict.
● Jonathan's book Raising Loving Siblings: How to Stop the Fighting and Help Your Kids Connect ● Jonathan’s websites: https://siblingexpert.com/author/caspij/ ● Connect with Jonathan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/siblingexpert/ Jonathan Caspi, PhD, MSW, is Professor of Family Science and Human Development at Montclair State University in New Jersey. Dr. Caspi is an internationally recognized sibling expert. In addition to researching, writing, and teaching about families and siblings, he has been a family therapist for over 30 years and has a private practice in New Jersey.
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| 315. Hot & Bothered: Menopause with Jancee Dunn | 09 Aug 2023 | 01:03:29 | |
It’s time to talk about menopause. Despite being such a pivotal stage in a woman's development, it does not always receive the acknowledgment it deserves. And with half of the population affected by menopause, it’s about time we started talking about it loud and proud! Helping us unpack the whirlwind of physical and emotional changes women experience as they go through this transition is Jancee Dunn, columnist, perimenopause warrior, and author of Hot and Bothered, who shares her insightful thoughts. As we laugh and learn about the ups and downs of menopause, you’ll hear about the 30+ symptoms (yep, you read that right!), and we've got you covered with intimacy tips, the best treatments to ease the discomfort, and even some surprising positives about this stage of life. No matter your gender identity, we welcome everyone to join us for this refreshingly hilarious and eye-opening journey!
Jancee Dunn is the New York Times bestselling author of nine books, including a memoir and a biography of Cyndi Lauper. Her essay collection Why Is My Mother Getting a Tattoo? was a finalist for the Thurber Prize for American Humor. Her last book, How Not To Hate Your Husband After Kids, was published in twelve languages. She is a frequent contributor to The New York Times, Vogue, and Health. She was a sex columnist at GQ and had a column that addressed ethical dilemmas in O, The Oprah Magazine. She lives in New Jersey with her husband, the author Tom Vanderbilt, and their daughter.
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| Bonus Episode: Nobody Should Believe Me with Andrea Dunlop | 04 Aug 2023 | 00:28:21 | |
If you enjoyed our most recent episode, Episode 314, Munchausen by proxy with Andrea Dunlop and Marc Feldman on Munchausen by Proxy syndrome, you won’t want to miss Andrea’s podcast, Nobody Should Believe Me. In this special bonus episode, we are bringing our listeners the very first episode of Nobody Should Believe Me. Andrea shares how she first became captivated by the story of Hope Ybarra–who spent ten years in prison for Munchausen by Proxy–and begins to unpack the many similarities between Hope’s case and Andrea’s own family story. About Andrea DunlopAndrea Dunlop is the host and creator of NOBODY SHOULD BELIEVE ME, an investigative true crime podcast that is consistently in the top 20 on the Apple True Crime charts. Andrea is the founder of Munchausen Support, an online resource and non-profit that supports survivors and families. She is a member of the American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s Munchausen by proxy committee where she serves alongside some of the country’s foremost experts. Andrea is the author of four novels: Losing the Light (Atria; 2016), She Regrets Nothing (Atria: 2018), We Came Here to Forget (Atria; 2019), and Women Are the Fiercest Creatures (Zibby Books; 2023) Her work has been featured in places like Vanity Fair, People, Entertainment Weekly, ABC News Live, and elsewhere. She is currently working on a non-fiction book based on the podcast, co-authored with Detective Mike Weber that is forthcoming from St. Martin’s Press in 2024.
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| 314. Munchausen by Proxy with Andrea Dunlop and Marc Feldman | 02 Aug 2023 | 01:15:36 | |
Munchausen by Proxy Syndrome (MBPS) is a psychological disorder that you may have heard whispers about in the media in which a person, usually a parent, fakes or induces a medical condition in another person to gain attention. In most cases, it is the mother of a child who pretends or even causes medical symptoms the child does not actually have. To shed light on this highly complex topic, we brought in the expertise of Andrea Dunlop, founder of Munchausen Support, and Marc Feldman, a renowned specialist in factitious disorder, Munchausen syndrome, and Munchausen by proxy. Through personal experiences, real-life cases, and scientific research, they educate us on the underlying motivations behind this behavior, including the desire for attention and emotional gratification. The conversation also touches on the range of behaviors associated with Munchausen by Proxy, from subtle forms of overmedicalization to extreme cases involving active induction of illness. Andrea and Marc stress the need to acknowledge and address these behaviors, as well as provide support and resources for survivors and their families. Find out how we can support people affected by these complex disorders by tuning in.
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| 313. ACT-Informed Exposure for Anxiety with Brian Pilecki and Brian Thompson | 28 Jul 2023 | 01:03:04 | |
In the treatment of anxiety, panic disorder, and OCD, exposure therapy has long been recognized as the gold standard. But what if there was an even more powerful approach to confronting your fears or trauma? For this episode, we welcome two esteemed guests, Dr. Brian Thompson and Dr. Brian Pilecki to uncover the transformative impact of blending traditional exposure therapy with the principles of ACT. Through practical examples from their groundbreaking book, ACT-Informed Exposure for Anxiety, we learn about the significance of acceptance, values, and how clinicians can incorporate ACT concepts into exposure sessions, emphasizing the power of creativity and psychological flexibility in the therapeutic process. This is a must-listen for anyone seeking a deeper understanding of cutting-edge anxiety interventions. Tune in for an experience that could radically change your relationship with anxiety forever! Listen and Learn:
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| 312. Throwback Episode! The Invisible Gorilla with Christopher Chabris | 19 Jul 2023 | 00:57:19 | |
Have you ever considered that, while being super focused can be a positive quality, it may also have its drawbacks? Think about it: when you channel your attention so intensely on one thing, you could be neglecting a whole realm of valuable information and stimuli out there. Embark on a journey with us into the mysterious world of illusions! Piggy-backing off of the previous episode on the science of deception, we are taking you back in time to revisit an eleven-year-old conversation between Debbie and Christopher Chabris for the New Books Network about, "The Invisible Gorilla: How Our Intuitions Deceive Us ". Through this captivating book, you’ll discover how to view the world through the lens of illusions and how our perceptions can be deceived. From the illusion of attention, flashbulb memory, and The Mozart Effect to the illusions of confidence and knowledge, challenge your assumptions and gain insight into how our brains can be tricked and our decision-making influenced.
Dr. Christopher Chabris is a cognitive scientist who has taught at Union College and Harvard University and is a Fellow of the Association for Psychological Science. His research focuses on decision-making, attention, intelligence, and behavior genetics. Chris received his Ph.D. in psychology and A.B. in computer science from Harvard University. He is a chess master, poker amateur, and games enthusiast; for three years he wrote the “Game On” column in The Wall Street.
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| 311. Nobody's Fool with Daniel Simons and Christopher Chabris | 12 Jul 2023 | 01:06:44 | |
Deception is everywhere. Fake psychics, dodgy investment deals, cults, and pesky scam calls can be hard to detect, even for the smartest or most vigilant individuals. This poses the question of what makes us vulnerable and what precautions we can take? Joining us for this episode are two exceptional cognitive scientists, Christopher Chabris and Daniel Simons. Through studies and findings from their highly anticipated book, "Nobody's Fool, Why We Get Taken In, and What We Can Do About It" they provide us with valuable insight into how to navigate the treacherous world of deception. In this fascinating conversation, Christopher and Daniel unveil the cognitive biases that plague us all while offering practical ways to safeguard ourselves from being duped. Drawing upon real-life situations, they come equipped with an arsenal of tactics that can be incorporated into your daily life and that won't breed paranoia or leave you in a perpetual state of vigilance—quite the opposite! Their goal is to provide you with the knowledge to navigate life confidently, cautiously, and securely.
Daniel Simons and Christopher Chabris are the authors of the 2010 New York Times Bestseller, The Invisible Gorilla: How Our Intuitions Deceive Us, which has been translated into 20 languages. They have collaborated on research for more than 25 years, and they jointly received the 2004 Ig Nobel Prize (given for research that "first makes you laugh and then makes you think"). They have contributed to The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, Slate, and other national publications, and their work has appeared in science museums worldwide. They spent nearly a decade researching and writing Nobody’s Fool.
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| 310. The Expectation Effect with David Robson | 05 Jul 2023 | 00:59:43 | |
Our expectations can shape how we navigate life in more ways than one. Expectations help us prepare, but not just through action; there are actual physiological changes that occur when we're anticipating certain things. David Robson, "an award-winning science writer who focuses on the extremes of the human brain, body, and behavior", joins us for this episode. Through practical takeaways founded on scientific theory from his book, The Expectation Effect: How Your Mindset Can Change Your World, David opens our minds to a fun and transformative look at the fantastical power that the mind has in making expectations a reality. Learn useful tools that you can use to your benefit, both in terms of increasing positive experiences and better managing the harder experiences that are unavoidable. Tune in for this game-changing episode that will shift your perspective and day-to-day experience in some fascinating and surprising ways. Listen and Learn:
David Robson is an award-winning science writer specializing in the extremes of the human brain, body and behavior. He’s written for the Guardian, the Atlantic, New Scientist, Men’s Health and many more. His first book was The Intelligence Trap and his second, discussed in this episode, is The Expectation Effect: How Your Mindset Can Transform Your World. Related Episodes
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| 309. The Language of Emotions with Karla McLaren | 28 Jun 2023 | 01:00:42 | |
Get ready to tap into the power of your emotions, because they hold invaluable wisdom! From guilt to panic and everything in between, each emotion we feel has a story to tell. And who better to guide us through this emotional journey than Karla McLaren, an emotion and empathy expert? With more than a decade of research under her belt, Karla has mastered the intense power of language in identifying and regulating emotions. Described as an ‘emotional guidebook’ for navigating the highs and lows of your feelings while heightening your intuition, enhancing your relationships, and broadening your self-awareness, we’re here to dissect the latest edition of Karla’s book, The Language of Emotions: What Your Feelings Are Trying to Tell You. As we break down anger, envy, forgiveness, anxiety, and even some lesser-known emotions that you might not even realize you're feeling, you'll discover how emotions can be instrumental in healing trauma and why having a negative approach to emotions can be problematic. If you’re looking to have your mind truly blown, join us as we explore the exhilarating world of emotions and learn how to decode them like a pro!
Karla McLaren, M.Ed. is an award-winning author, educator, workplace consultant, and social science researcher. Her work revalues even the most “negative” emotions and opens startling new pathways into self-awareness, effective communication, and healthy empathy. She is the founder and CEO of Emotion Dynamics Inc. She is also the author of many books, including The Language of Emotions, The Power of Emotions at Work, and Embracing Anxiety, and she is the developer of the online learning site EmpathyAcademy.org. She is online at KarlaMcLaren.com.
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| 308. Identifying and Surviving Gaslighting with Robin Stern | 21 Jun 2023 | 01:00:33 | |
Are you familiar with the term "gaslighting"? It’s been a popular topic for discussion in recent days, but how many of us actually understand its true meaning and, perhaps more importantly, how to identify it? Join us for this thought-provoking interview with Psychoanalyst and co-founder of the Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence, Dr. Robin Stern, who gives us a fresh and detailed perspective on the subject. Shedding light on decades of research and heaps of knowledge as the author of The Gaslight Effect and The Gaslight Effect Recovery Guide, Dr. Stern offers guidance on how to recognize the different stages of the gaslight effect, indicating who is most susceptible and offering strategies to escape from it. Don't tolerate emotional abuse in silence any longer; tune in to learn how to spot the signs of gaslighting while moving forward toward a brighter future filled with kindness and respect—which you deserve! Listen and Learn:
Dr. Robin Stern is the co-founder and senior advisor to the director of the Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence and has 30 years of experience as a licensed psychoanalyst. She is the author of The Gaslight Effect: How to Spot and Survive the Hidden Manipulation Others Use to Control Your Life and The Gaslight Effect Recovery Guide: Your Personal Journey Toward Healing from Emotional Abuse. She hosts the Gaslight Effect podcast.
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| 307. Navigating Social Media As a Parent with Cara Goodwin | 14 Jun 2023 | 00:52:50 | |
The journey of parenting requires a unique approach for every family. Don’t get discouraged by claims that there is one right way to raise a child; this is simply not true. Dr. Cara Goodwin, an experienced child psychologist, author, and mother, was amazed at the volume of misinformation shared online by self-proclaimed 'experts'. To combat this, she created the “Parenting Translator”- a source of trustworthy, science-based research and information on parenting and child development. As a well-known voice in the online parenting world, we are super fortunate to have Cara join us to help us learn how to recognize pseudoscience, interpret research accurately, and use social media more strategically. Her message is clear: No single approach to parenting fits everyone, and we should be mindful of research that does not take individual differences into account.
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Cara Goodwin, Ph.D., is a licensed clinical psychologist and a mother to three children. She received a Ph.D. in child clinical psychology from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, a Master’s in Developmental Psychiatry from Cambridge University, and a Master’s in Child Psychology from Vanderbilt University, and she completed a postdoctoral fellowship at Duke University. She specializes in child development and has spent years researching child psychology and neuroscience and providing therapy and clinical services for children of all ages. She has published 18 research articles in peer-reviewed academic journals, written two book chapters, and completed numerous conference presentations. She also recently wrote a children’s book titled What to Do When You Feel Like Hitting which gives children evidence-based strategies to use when they are dysregulated. Goodwin translates recent scientific research into information parents can access and implement in their everyday lives through her Instagram account @parentingtranslator and her website. Related Episodes:
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| 403. Conflict Resilience with Bob Bordone and Joel Salinas | 16 Apr 2025 | 00:56:46 | |
What if your next disagreement could actually bring you closer to someone instead of driving you apart? In this episode, we’re diving into Conflict Resilience: Negotiating Disagreement Without Giving Up or Giving In with co-authors Bob Bordone, a conflict resolution expert from Harvard, and Joe Salinas, a behavioral neurologist and founder of Isaac Health. Together with Yael, they have a down-to-earth conversation about what it really takes to stay present in conflict and why that matters for your relationships and your brain. You’ll hear personal stories, surprising research, and powerful insights on why it’s so important to get comfortable with discomfort, listen with an open heart, and know when (and how) to engage in tough conversations. Listen and Learn:
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Robert C. Bordone is a Senior Fellow at Harvard Law School, founder and former director of the Harvard Negotiation and Mediation Clinical Program, former Thaddeus R. Beal Clinical Professor of Law at Harvard Law School, and founder of The Cambridge Negotiation Institute. He is co-author of Designing Systems and Processes for Managing Disputes, and co-editor of The Handbook of Dispute Resolution. Bordone was ranked among 2025’s World’s Top 30 Negotiation Professionals by Global Gurus. Joel Salinas, M.D. is a behavioral neurologist, scientist, and Clinical Associate Professor of Neurology at the NYU Grossman School of Medicine, founder and Chief Medical Officer at Isaac Health, and former Harvard Medical School faculty. He is the author of Mirror Touch: A Memoir of Synesthesia and the Secret Life of the Brain.
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| 306. Screaming on the Inside: The Challenges of American Motherhood with Jessica Grose | 07 Jun 2023 | 00:59:40 | |
Let’s end the unrealistic expectations placed on mothers and give them the freedom to make choices that benefit themselves, their children, and their communities. Join Debbie and Jessica Grose, a writer for The New York Times, as they jump deep into the systemic and cultural challenges of modern motherhood. Through highlights from her book, “Screaming on the Inside”, Jessica offers insights backed by science on how to navigate the tough journey of parenting and answers the big question of whether there is hope for a better future for mothers. With engaging discussions about societal expectations, generational differences in motherhood, and the importance of validation and compassion in the process, Jessica brings a treasure trove of valuable information and guidance. Whether you are a new mom or an experienced parent, this is a thought-provoking conversation that will leave you feeling supported and empowered. Listen and Learn:
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Jessica Grose is an opinion writer at The New York Times. Her new book “Screaming on the Inside: The Unsustainability of American Motherhood” (Mariner Books) is out now! Jess was the founding editor of Lenny, the email newsletter and website. She also writes about women’s health, culture, and grizzly bears. She was named one of LinkedIn’s Next Wave top professionals 35 and under in 2016 and a Glamour “Game Changer” in 2020 for her coverage of the pandemic. Her second novel, SOULMATES, was published in 2016. It’s about a broken marriage, a spiritual awakening, and a murder at a yoga retreat. Soulmates is “delightfully sly” according to Elle, “a killer read” per Cosmopolitan, and “compelling, funny, painful and wry,” says the Globe and Mail. Her debut novel, SAD DESK SALAD, came out in 2012. It takes place at a women’s website and Jess refers to it as “the devil wears sweatpants.” Glamour called it “Dishy, zingy, hilarious.” She was formerly a senior editor at Slate, and an editor at Jezebel. Her work has appeared in The New York Times, New York, the Washington Post, Businessweek, Elle, Cosmopolitan, and many other publications. She lives in Brooklyn with her husband and daughters. Follow her on Twitter @JessGrose and Instagram @JessGroseWrites.
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| 305. The Power of Saying No with Vanessa Patrick | 31 May 2023 | 01:06:13 | |
We’ve all been there: saying yes when we really wanted to say no. It happens all the time, from work requests and invitations, or favors for friends. Saying no can result in offense, awkwardness, and sometimes even trouble with relationships and reputations, so we often choose yes instead. However, in this episode, our guest encourages us to change our mindset. Saying no can actually empower us and should be seen as a valuable skill. Author Vanessa Patrick graces this episode to teach us the ins and outs of effective no-saying in her book, The Power of Saying No: The New Science of How to Say No That Puts You in Charge of Your Life. With experience, research, and sage advice to offer, Vanessa emphasizes why mastering the art of "no" is crucial and how to use our own values to make the right decisions.
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Vanessa Patrick, PhD, is the Associate Dean for Research, the Bauer Professor of Marketing, and lead faculty of the Executive Women in Leadership Program at the Bauer School of Business at the University of Houston. She has a PhD in business from the University of Southern California and an MBA in marketing and a BS degree in microbiology and biochemistry from Bombay University in India. Patrick is a regular speaker at both academic and practitioner conferences. She lives in Houston, Texas.
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| 304. The Emotional Lives of Teenagers with Lisa Damour | 24 May 2023 | 01:01:38 | |
Teenagers naturally experience a rollercoaster of emotions, making everyday pressures and transitional changes overwhelming for parents and adolescents alike. Our guest Lisa Damour, a clinical psychologist, and best-selling author of ‘The Emotional Lives of Teenagers’ emphasizes the integrality of validating teenagers' emotions while also providing a framework on how to understand and support them. In this episode, Lisa reveals what to expect from teenage emotional development, and why we need to change the way we approach adolescent mental health. Learn effective ways to maintain open lines of communication, clearly articulate values, cope with common challenges such as too much gaming time and disengaging at school, and foster deeper bonds. With research-informed explanations and real-life examples, this episode gives parents the tools needed to support their teens through this difficult stage in life.
The Emotional Lives of Teenagers: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780593500019 Untangled: Guiding Teenage Girls Through the Seven Transitions Into Adulthood: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780553393071 Under Pressure: Confronting the Epidemic of Stress and Anxiety in Girls: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780399180071 Dr. Lisa Damour is the author of three New York Times best sellers: Untangled, Under Pressure, and The Emotional Lives of Teenagers. She co-hosts the Ask Lisa podcast, works in collaboration with UNICEF, and is recognized as a thought leader by the American Psychological Association. Dr. Damour is also a regular contributor to The New York Times and CBS News. Dr. Damour serves as a Senior Advisor to the Schubert Center for Child Studies at Case Western Reserve University and has written numerous academic papers, chapters, and books related to education and child development. She maintains a clinical practice and also speaks to schools, professional organizations, and corporate groups around the world on the topics of child and adolescent development, family mental health, and adult well-being. Dr. Damour graduated with honors from Yale University and worked for the Yale Child Study Center before earning her doctorate in Clinical Psychology at the University of Michigan. She has been a fellow at Yale’s Edward Zigler Center in Child Development and Social Policy and the University of Michigan’s Power Foundation. She and her husband are the proud parents of two daughters.
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| 303. Both/And Thinking with Marianne Lewis | 17 May 2023 | 01:02:15 | |
Life is an incredible journey full of paradoxical demands that can sometimes feel overwhelming. But what if we could embrace both sides of the equation and turn these tensions into opportunities for growth? This is exactly what our guest Marianne Lewis teaches us in the groundbreaking book Both/And Thinking: Embracing Creative Tensions to Solve Your Toughest Problems that she coauthored with her colleague, Wendy Smith. Delving into the risks of either-or thinking and the vicious cycles that can arise, Marianne and cohost, Yael discuss how binary thinking affects our lives. Packed with tools and lessons that will help you see the world with fresh eyes, you’ll learn tips on how to reframe questions, embrace paradoxes, as well as navigate complex tensions. If you're interested in exploring new ways of thinking and solving tough problems, this episode is for you!
About Marianne Lewis Marianne W. Lewis is dean and professor of management at the College of Business, University of Cincinnati. She previously served as dean of the Business School at City, University of London. A thought leader in organizational paradoxes, she explores tensions surrounding leadership and innovation. Lewis has been recognized among the world’s most-cited researchers in her field and her work has appeared in media outlets, such as Harvard Business Review, Fast Company, and Newsweek. Her latest book Both/And Thinking: Embracing Creative Tensions to Solve Your Toughest Problems is co-authored with her colleague, Wendy Smith. Related Episodes:
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| 302. Say the Right Thing with David Glasgow | 10 May 2023 | 01:06:45 | |
In today's world, society is more polarized than ever before. With people taking positions on issues related to identity, diversity, and justice, engaging in these conversations can seem like a daunting task. Yet, this is precisely what we need to do if we want to build a more just and equitable society. In this regard, our latest episode where Jill Stoddard interviews author David Glasgow is a must-listen. Glasgow's book, "Say the Right Thing: How to Talk About Identity, Diversity, and Justice" provides valuable insights on how to approach these sensitive topics in a way that fosters understanding, empathy, and positive change. The discussion delves into the controversial "cancel culture" and the need to show compassion and understanding towards those who make mistakes. Additionally, he emphasizes the importance of embracing a growth mindset and illustrates strategies to overcome conversational traps and navigate disagreements respectively. Take advantage of this opportunity to learn how to engage in challenging and compassionate conversations. Listen to the episode now! Listen and Learn:
David Glasgow is the executive director of the Meltzer Center for Diversity, Inclusion, and Belonging and an adjunct professor at NYU School of Law. He has written for a range of publications including the Harvard Business Review, HuffPost, and Slate, and served as an Associate Director of the Public Interest Law Center at NYU School of Law. Please visit him at david-glasgow.com. Related Episodes:
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| 301. Seven Daily ACT Practices for Living Fully with Diana Hill and Debbie Sorensen | 02 May 2023 | 00:50:39 | |
Join host Debbie Sorensen and former co-host and guest Diana Hill as they discuss the power of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and introduce their new resource: The ACT Daily Card Deck. Through personal anecdotes and examples, they emphasize the importance of living in the present moment and taking committed action that aligns with personal values. They also touch on the concepts of self-doubt, impermanence, and the role of emotions in our lives. With their creative exercises, like visiting their younger selves and the watering seeds exercise, they help listeners break down complex therapeutic concepts into everyday language that is easy to understand. Discover practical tools for leading a more fulfilling life that bridge the gap between theory and action. Listen now and learn how you too can benefit from ACT and become the master of your mind. Listen and Learn:
Diana Hill, PhD is a clinical psychologist, international trainer and sought-out speaker on Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and compassion. Host of the podcast Your Life in Process and co-author of ACT Daily Journal, Diana works with organizations and individuals to develop psychological flexibility so that they can take wise action toward fulfilling and impactful lives. Integrating her over 20 years of meditation experience with yoga and psychological training, Diana blogs for Psychology Today, and guest teaches at InsightLA, Blue Spirit Costa Rica, PESI, Praxis Continuing Education, Yoga Soup and Insight Timer Meditation. Diana practices what she preaches in her daily life as a mom of two boys and bee guardian. Dr. Debbie Sorensen is a clinical psychologist with a private therapy practice in Denver. She specializes in providing individual Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) for adults experiencing burnout, chronic stress, and anxiety. Debbie has a Ph.D. in Psychology from Harvard University, and a bachelor’s degree from the University of Colorado, Boulder. She is a co-author of the book ACT Daily Journal: Get Unstuck and Live Fully with Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, and a co-founder and co-host the popular psychology podcast Psychologists Off The Clock. She speaks and gives workshops nationally and internationally to mental health providers, schools, and organizations. She loves living in her home state of Colorado and enjoying the Rocky Mountains with her husband, two daughters, and dog.
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| 300. Celebrating 300 Episodes with Us | 26 Apr 2023 | 00:57:08 | |
Let's raise a glass to Debbie, Jill, and Yael as they reach a milestone of 300 episodes on the fabulous Psychologists Off The Clock podcast! Can you believe it? Six-plus years of incredible conversations, phenomenal guests, mind-blowing ideas, and moments have uplifted us all. As they share their reflections on this journey, we get a glimpse of how POTC has transformed their understanding and application of psychology, impacted their lives, and connected them with listeners from all corners of the world. And can we stop to appreciate the wisdom, dedication, and passion they bring to this amazingly valuable show? We are so grateful to be part of this incredible community, and we know Debbie, Jill, and Yael share the same gratitude for all of us listeners who have supported them along the way.
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| Bonus Episode: Positive Working Parenthood with Cara Goodwin | 20 Apr 2023 | 00:33:16 | |
Welcome to this exciting bonus episode where POTC co-host Yael Schonbrun joins the incredible Child Psychologist, Cara Goodwin, for an empowering conversation exploring the artful science of working parenthood on Cara’s podcast, The Parenting Translator. Discover how to use parenting science to guide healthy choices and transform guilt into a powerful tool that aligns with your core values. You'll also gain insights into developing self-compassion and cultivating a growth mindset. Get ready to be inspired to take your parenting journey to the next level. Don't miss this incredible opportunity to learn and grow! Listen and Learn:
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Cara Goodwin, is the founder of Parenting Translator, a mother to three young children, and a licensed psychologist with a PhD in child clinical psychology. Before she had her second child, she spent her days doing research in child psychology and neuroscience, assessing children for developmental problems, doing therapy with children of all ages, and training parents on how to use the most recent scientific findings to help their children. After taking some time off to be with my own children, she became desperate for an intellectual outlet so, on the brink of the COVID-19 pandemic and pregnant with a third child, she decided to start an Instagram account (@parentingtranslator) and website (www.parentingtranslator.com) with the purpose of taking recent scientific research and translating it into information that parents can use in their everyday lives. That IG account has taken off, with considerably over 100K followers, a newsletter, a podcast, and she’s also the author of a kids book titled, What to Do When You Feel Like Hitting: A No Hitting Book for Toddlers.
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| 299. Leadership and the Changing Workplace with Chris Shipley | 19 Apr 2023 | 01:01:25 | |
Over the past few decades, the workplace has undergone tremendous changes. With the rise of technology and globalization, companies operate in a more complex and interconnected world. This has created new challenges for leaders, who must now navigate a wide range of cultural, technological, and economic factors to succeed. We are privileged to have Chris Shipley as our guest on this episode. As a Technology Analyst and Future of Work Strategist, she has honed her expertise in developing effective leadership strategies in today's rapidly evolving and unprecedented workplace. Her recent book, The Empathy Advantage: Leading the Empowered Workforce, provides valuable guidance for leaders at all levels. From how to cultivate empathy and emotional intelligence, build trust, and lead a diverse, and multi-generational workforce. Whether you're an entry-level manager or a seasoned executive, her insights are invaluable for anyone looking to improve their leadership skills. We're delighted to have her share her wisdom with us, and we're confident that you'll be left feeling empowered, inspired, and resilient. Listen and Learn:
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Chris Shipley has documented, influenced, and predicted the impact of technology on business and society for more than 30 years. As a journalist, she covered the tech industry for leading publishing companies. As an analyst, she identified innovative startups and gave them a stage to launch their market-making products. As a catalyst, she has advised hundreds of early-stage companies on positioning, business modeling, and innovation practices. Today, Chris focuses her work on the human and organizational challenges in the face of technology-and economically-driven disruption.
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| 298. Drama Free with Nedra Tawwab | 12 Apr 2023 | 01:03:19 | |
Dysfunctional family relationships can be complicated and extremely challenging to navigate, but it's essential to remember that we have the power to change the narrative. Whether you’re dealing with overbearing or abusive parents, toxic siblings, or any other form of unhealthy behavior, it can be difficult to know how to break free from these patterns and create more positive connections. This is where our guest Nedra Tawwab, a renowned therapist, New York Times bestselling author, and relationship expert, comes in. We are thrilled to welcome Nedra back to Psychologist's Off the Clock to discuss her latest book, Drama Free. A Guide to Managing Unhealthy Family Relationships. With her relatable and practical guide, Nedra provides valuable tips on identifying and managing unhealthy family relationships that may be causing distress and turmoil in your life. Her expertise will empower you to take control of your life, move away from toxic behavior, and build stronger, healthier connections. Remember that you have the strength and resilience to overcome any obstacles. Don't let your past define your future!
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About Nedra Glover Tawwab Nedra Glover Tawwab, MSW, LCSW, is a New York Times best-selling author, licensed therapist, and sought-after relationship expert. She has practiced relationship therapy for 15 years and is the founder and owner of the group therapy practice, Kaleidoscope Counseling. Every day she helps people create healthy relationships by teaching them how to implement boundaries. Her philosophy is that a lack of boundaries and assertiveness underlie most relationship issues, and her gift is helping people create healthy relationships with themselves and others. Nedra earned her undergraduate and graduate degrees from Wayne State University in Detroit, MI. She has additional certifications in working with families and couples and in perinatal mood and anxiety disorders, plus advanced training for counseling adults who've experienced childhood emotional neglect. Nedra has appeared as an expert on Red Table Talk, The Breakfast Club, Good Morning America, and CBS Morning Show to name a few. Her work has been highlighted in The New York Times, The Guardian, and Vice and has appeared on numerous podcasts, including Good Life Project, Sofia with an F, and Therapy For Black Girls. She runs a popular Instagram account where she shares practices, tools, and reflections for mental health and hosts weekly Q&As.
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| 402. Harm Reduction for Addiction with Kristin Dempsey | 09 Apr 2025 | 00:57:02 | |
Breaking the cycle of addiction is both possible and challenging, but even just rethinking your relationship with it can be a powerful first step toward change. Offering an alternative to strict abstinence models is Kristin Dempsey, the author of The Harm Reduction Workbook for Addiction, who invites you to reconsider your approach to addiction, offering a tangible, compassionate, and science-backed method of recovery known as harm reduction. Through reflective listening, motivational interviewing, curiosity, and "change talk," Kristin talks to Michael about just a few of these helpful strategies for reassessing your relationship with addictive substances (and even other areas of your life) and navigating change in a way that feels both supportive and sustainable.
Kristin L. Dempsey, EdD, LMFT, LPCC, is a psychotherapist, counselor educator, and trainer. For thirty years, she has supported individuals with exploring their own relationships to substances. She is a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) and has been privileged to provide motivational interviewing (MI) training to thousands of people in behavioral health, primary care, public health, school, corrections, and human services organizations.
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| 297. School of Hard Talks with Emily Kline | 05 Apr 2023 | 01:02:38 | |
If you find yourself struggling to connect with the adolescents in your life, don't worry, you're not alone! The truth is, building relationships with teens and young adults can be challenging, but with the right mindset and approach, anything is possible. Get ready to be inspired by our guest, Emily Kline, a Harvard-trained clinical psychologist who has written a practical and research-backed guide called "The School of Hard Talks: How to Have Real Conversations with Your (Almost Grown) Kids". Whether you're a parent, teacher, mentor, or just someone who wants to connect better with the younger generation, this book is a must-read for improving communication and building stronger relationships with young people. So, let's dive in and explore some of the key insights and tips that Emily has to offer. Listen and Learn:
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Emily Kline is a clinical psychologist and writer who has held faculty positions in psychiatry at Boston University and at Harvard Medical School. She created a simple motivational interviewing curriculum for family caregivers and The School of Hard Talks Online free e-course, and her book, The School of Hard Talks: How to Have Real Conversations with You Almost Grown Kids is now available. Emily lives with her husband and children who graciously beta-test her experiments in family communication and a dog who can’t be reasoned with at all.
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| 296. Money and Love with Abby Davisson | 29 Mar 2023 | 01:02:48 | |
When it comes to money and love, the two are inextricably linked. Whether it's choosing where to settle down, starting a family, or taking that new job opportunity, our financial situation and our relationships always come into play. Thankfully, with the expert guidance of our guest Abby Davisson who co-authored the brilliant resource, "Money and Love: An Intelligent Roadmap for Life's Biggest Decisions" we can navigate these tricky waters with grace, ease, and confidence. Using Abby’s 5Cs framework, she offers guidance on how to strike a harmonious balance between love and money. With research-based insights and real-life examples, we learn how to holistically make value-driven decisions that are both financially sound and emotionally fulfilling. So let's dive in and discover the easy and practical steps to make strategic decisions that yield better results, without having to compromise your professional or personal life. Listen and Learn:
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Abby Davisson is a social innovation leader and career development expert. Most recently, she spent nine years at global retailer Gap Inc., where she served as president of the Gap Foundation and co-founded the company’s employee resource group for parents. You can find more information on her book “Money and Love: An Intelligent Roadmap for Life’s Biggest Decisions” at https://www.moneylovebook.com. Press information is available at https://www.moneylovebook.com/press-kit. Related Episodes:
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| 295. Buyer Beware: Pseudoscience and the Wellness Industry, featuring Pooja Lakshmin | 22 Mar 2023 | 01:00:10 | |
When it comes to self-help, it's important to be cautious of information that seems too good to be true. Especially, in today's world of digital wellness influencers where there is a lot of misinformation out there that could cause you more harm than good. Subsequently, it's essential to thoroughly research products and services before making any decisions or commitments. To raise awareness about this issue, we (Debbie, Jill, and Yael) got together to co-host an episode dedicated to this very important conversation. We also invited Pooja Lakshmin, a board-certified psychiatrist and author of the book ‘Real Self-Care: A Transformative Program for Redefining Wellness’ to discuss the nuances of pseudoscience and what it means to practice real self-care. Expect evidence-based self-care methods, in addition to tips on how to do your due diligence as a consumer.
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Podcasts Pooja Lakshmin is a psychiatrist, New York Times contributor, an assistant professor at George Washington University, and a leading voice at the intersection of mental health and gender with a focus on helping individuals escape the tyranny of self-care. In 2020, she founded Gemma, a physician-led women’s mental health platform centering on impact and equity. She also maintains a private practice where she treats women struggling with burnout and perfectionism, as well as clinical conditions like depression and anxiety. Her new book which we are here to discuss, Real Self-Care: A Transformative Program for Redefining Wellness (Crystals, Cleanses, and Bubble Baths not Included) is out now.
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| 294. Yes And: Improv in Psychology with Kelly Leonard | 15 Mar 2023 | 01:18:53 | |
Let's talk about the magic that is improvisation, or what us cool kids call "improv." It's an art form that's all about unleashing your creativity and performing without a script or plan. Sure, you may have heard of it as a side-splitting comedy act, but improv goes a lot deeper than that. From acting to business to mental health, improv skills can be applied in various areas of life. Enter Kelly Leonard, the VP of Creative Strategy, Innovation, and Business Development at the infamous Second City in Chicago. Kelly, who over the decades has produced hundreds of original revues with comedians such as Stephen Colbert, Tina Fey, and Seth Meyers (to name a few) has a unique understanding of behavioral science through the lens of improv. Regaling us with lessons and stories from his career and book, ‘Yes And’, we learn how to utilize improv to help us adapt, empathize, communicate, trust, and collaborate better. We are reminded that saying ‘yes’ to new ideas and experiences sparks creativity and can lead to beneficial outcomes. From deepening our relationships with others by practicing active listening and learning to accept and appreciate new ideas, regardless of their origin. It also teaches us to think on our feet and work together to create innovative solutions to problems.
Kelly Leonard is the Executive Director of Learning and Applied Improvisation at Second City Works. His book, “Yes, And: Lessons from The Second City” was released to critical acclaim in 2015 by HarperCollins and was praised by Michael Lewis in Vanity Fair who called it “...an excellent guide to the lessons that have bubbled up in Second City’s improv workshops.” Kelly is a popular speaker on the power of improvisation to transform people’s lives. He has presented at The Aspen Ideas Festival, The Code Conference,TEDx Broadway, Chicago Ideas Festival, The Stanford Graduate School of Business and for companies such as Coca Cola, Microsoft, Twitter, Memorial Sloan Kettering and DDB Worldwide. Kelly co-created an initiative with the Center for Decision Research at the Booth School at the University of Chicago, The Second Science Project, that looks at behavioral science through the lens of improvisation. He also hosts the podcast, “Getting to Yes, And,” for Second City Works and WGN radio that features interviews with academics, authors and leaders such as Brene Brown, Adam Grant, Michael Lewis, Lindy West, Ash Carter and Amy Edmondson. For over twenty years, Kelly oversaw Second City’s live theatrical divisions where he helped generate original productions with such talent as Tina Fey, Stephen Colbert, Amy Poehler, Seth Meyers, Steve Carell, Keegan Michael Key, Amy Sedaris, Adam McKay and others. In 2019, Arts Alliance Illinois awarded Kelly and his wife Anne Libera with their Creative Voice Award.
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| 293. Quit with Annie Duke | 08 Mar 2023 | 01:31:47 | |
Quitting is often viewed as a sign of failure, but in some cases, it might be the best decision. Whether it's quitting a bad habit, a job, or an unhealthy relationship, it is always important to know when to call it quits. Annie Duke, an expert in decision-making and author of Quit: The Power of Knowing When to Walk Away, inspires us to feel empowered and proud when we choose to quit. She encourages us to embrace the freedom and opportunity that comes with knowing when to let go and move on to something better. So, let us be bold and confident in our choices to quit, and relish the journey of growth and self-discovery that follows.
Annie is an author, corporate speaker, and consultant in the decision-making space, and a former professional poker player who is the only woman to have won the World Series of Poker Tournament of Champions and the NBC National Poker Heads-Up Championship. Annie’s previous book, Thinking in Bets, is a national bestseller, and her latest book Quit: The Power of Knowing When to Walk Away is, in our humble opinion, nothing short of transformative. We are here to discuss Quit today. 211. Subtract with Leidy Klotz 200. Growing Grit with Angela Duckworth 291. Finding Freedom From Regret with Robert Leahy
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| 292. Adult Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers with Stephanie Kriesberg | 01 Mar 2023 | 00:58:08 | |
Having a narcissistic parent while growing up can be incredibly difficult and painful. The emotional instability of the relationship can be detrimental to one's sense of self-worth, making it hard to trust others and form healthy relationships. Furthermore, the lack of consistent support and nurturing can lead to feelings of insecurity and the fear of being abandoned. Be inspired by our guest Dr. Stephanie Kriesberg, a clinical psychologist and author of ‘Adult Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers: Quiet the Critical Voice in Your Head, Heal Self-Doubt, and Live the Life You Deserve’. Through her research on narcissistic parenting, Stephanie has dedicated her work to helping adults lead healthier and happier lives. If you experienced a childhood with a narcissistic parent, let Dr. Kriesberg guide you in managing the difficulties of this complex relationship so you can live life on your own terms. Listen and Learn:
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Dr. Stephanie Kriesberg brings over twenty-five years of experience to her practice. She has extensive training in the treatment of anxiety disorders and in the use of clinical hypnosis. Recently she was honored to be elected as President-Elect of the New England Society for Clinical Hypnosis. She is the author of the book Adult Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers: Quiet the critical voice in your head, heal self-doubt, and live the life you deserve.
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| 291. Finding Freedom From Regret with Robert Leahy | 22 Feb 2023 | 01:12:12 | |
We have all experienced a feeling of regret at some point in our lives. It can be a deep sadness and disappointment that results from realizing how we could have done things differently or a feeling of guilt or shame that we experience when we make a mistake. Regret is a powerful emotion, one that can send us spiraling. However, it is possible to move beyond it and not become stuck in the feeling of despair. Discussing his remarkable guide, If Only...: Finding Freedom from Regret, we are honored to be joined by renowned psychologist and the Founder of the American Institute for Cognitive Therapy, Dr. Robert Leahy. As we explore the impact of regret, we gain insight and actionable exercises from Robert on how it can be utilized as a valuable tool to create opportunities and inform our decisions in more productive ways. Listen in to understand and manage regret, so that it doesn't control your life!
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About Robert L. Leahy Robert L. Leahy is the Founder and Director of the American Institute for Cognitive Therapy in NYC, Clinical Professor of Psychology in Psychiatry at Weill Cornell Medical College, and Past-President of the Association of Behavioral and Cognitive Therapies, The Academy of Cognitive Therapy, and The International Association of Cognitive Therapy. He is the recipient of the Aaron T. Beck Award for outstanding contributions in CBT, is the author of 29 books and is a frequent keynote speaker and presenter of workshops worldwide. His new book is If Only...Finding Freedom from Regret.
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| 290. Shared Sisterhood: Collective Action for Racial and Gender Equity at Work with Tina Opie and Beth Livingston | 15 Feb 2023 | 01:18:49 | |
To make our world a more harmonious and equitable place, we must take the time to build bridges across the divides of race and gender. This can be challenging, but it is an essential step to take in order to remove bias, reduce tensions, forge deeper connections, eliminate disparities, and create respect, trust, and greater understanding among all people. Dr. Tina Opie and Dr. Beth A. Livingston, co-authors of Shared Sisterhood, How to Take Collective Action for Racial and Gender Equity at Work, join us for this episode to discuss how they are driving gender and racial equity in organizations. Their groundbreaking book provides leaders and individuals with effective guidance and tools on how to establish a safe, and equitable work environment. Learn why gender equity cannot be realized without also striving for racial equity, and how we can move beyond individual solutions toward collective action to effectively bridge the gap. Hear first-hand stories and get practical tips on how we can work together across challenging divides and develop collaborative approaches that can transform the workplace and our lives.
Dr. Tina R. Opie is an associate professor of management at Babson College, and an award-winning teacher, researcher, and consultant. She is a sought-after speaker and has advised large firms in the financial services, entertainment, media, beauty, educational, and healthcare industries. Her research has appeared in such outlets as O Magazine, the Washington Post, the Boston Globe, and Harvard Business Review, and has been published in multiple academic journals.
Dr. Beth A. Livingston is an Associate Professor in Management and Entrepreneurship at the University of Iowa’s Tippie College of Business. She is a researcher, speaker, and consultant, working with large companies and nonprofits. Her research has been highlighted in the New York Times, Harvard Business Review, and on NPR and has been published in several top academic journals. Together, they have co-authored the book Shared Sisterhood, How to Take Collective Action for Racial and Gender Equity at Work.
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| 289. Happily Even After with Jonah Paquette | 08 Feb 2023 | 01:01:50 | |
It can be hard to find feelings of happiness in our lives. After all, life is unpredictable and we’re all facing our own unique challenges. Nonetheless, it is possible to find happiness, even during difficult times. Specializing in the science of well-being, Clinical Psychologist, Jonah Paquette is dedicated to helping us understand the significance of positive psychological principles in achieving happiness. Drawing from learnings in his book, Happily Even After: Daily Practices to Recover Joy After Hardship, Heartache, and Heartbreak, Jonah offers us practical exercises to strengthen our 'emotional fitness', reduce suffering and build resilience even amid challenging times. Whether you’re facing a challenging situation in life, or simply want to know how to cultivate more happiness and peace, this episode will provide you with actionable steps on how to do just that.
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About Jonah Jonah Paquette, PsyD, is a psychologist, author, and speaker who specializes in the science of well-being and emotional fitness. He is the author of four books including Happily Even After, Awestruck, The Happiness Toolbox, and Real Happiness. Jonah’s writing aims to provide readers with practical, research-backed strategies to foster greater well-being and connection in our everyday lives. In addition to his clinical work and writing, Jonah offers training and consultation to organizations on the promotion of well-being and conducts professional workshops for clinicians around the country and abroad. He is a sought-after media contributor, having been featured regularly in print, online, radio, and podcast outlets. To learn more about Jonah and his work, visit www.jonahpaquette.com. Related Episodes:
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| 288. The Fun Habit with Mike Rucker | 01 Feb 2023 | 01:00:56 | |
We all want to live a fun and fulfilling life, but the hustle and bustle of everyday life can leave us feeling overwhelmed and exhausted. That's why it's so important to make time for fun, even as an adult. From reducing stress to better relationships and improving mental and physical health, carving out time for fun activities can have a transformative impact on many aspects of our lives. Mike Rucker, an organizational psychologist, is here to share his best practices for incorporating fun habits into our day-to-day lives. Illustrating scientific evidence from his book, The Fun Habit: How the Pursuit of Joy and Wonder Can Change Your Life, we discover why fun is beneficial and what fun habits you can create to make life more enjoyable. So, let's dive in and learn why fun isn't just for kids—it's an essential part of adult life too.
Dr. Mike Rucker is an organizational psychologist and charter member of the International Positive Psychology Association whose work has been published in the International Journal of Workplace Health Management and Nutrition Research. His ideas about fun and health have been featured in The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, Fast Company, The Telegraph, Psychology Today, Forbes, Vox, Thrive Global, mindbodygreen, and more. Named one of ten digital changemakers by the Healthcare Information and Management Systems Society, he currently serves as a senior leader at Active Wellness.
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| 401. The Doors You Can Open Through Sponsorship with Rosalind Chow | 02 Apr 2025 | 00:52:43 | |
Success isn’t just about how hard you work. It’s also about who’s advocating for you even when you’re not in the room. In this episode, Debbie talks with Rosalind Chow, an associate professor at Carnegie Mellon University, about her new book, The Doors You Can Open A New Way to Network, Build Trust, and Use Your Influence to Create a More Inclusive Workplace. They get into the real difference between mentorship and sponsorship, why both matter, and how having the right sponsor can completely change the game for your career. Rosalind shares her perspective on the challenges of systemic racism and inclusion and how being intentional about sponsorship can actually create real opportunities for people who need them. Concluding the interview, Debbie and Yael give their take on what it means to build relationships that open doors, not just for ourselves but for others, too.
Rosalind Chow is an Associate Professor of Organizational Behavior and Theory at Carnegie Mellon University, where she studies the power of social hierarchy and its impact on diversity and inclusion efforts within organizations. She uses her research expertise to direct executive leadership programs aimed at accelerating participants' careers, with a particular focus on the advancement of women and members of marginalized groups. Her forthcoming book, The Doors You Can Open (PublicAffairs, April 8, 2025), introduces the concept of sponsorship as a way we can use our social connections to change the relationships we have with other people and the relationships that other people have with one another in the service of creating greater communal good.
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| 287. Think, Act, Be with Seth Gillihan | 25 Jan 2023 | 00:58:59 | |
Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) is a powerful practice that has been proven to effectively reduce symptoms of depression and anxiety. But, while CBT can help bring us relief in the short term, it doesn't always create lasting change. That’s why many mental health professionals are now combining CBT with another technique - mindfulness. By combining the two practices, we can start to create long-term improvements in our behavior, thoughts, and attitudes. Here to discuss research-based practices from his recently published book, Mindful Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, A Simple Path to Healing, Hope and Peace, is best-selling author and psychologist, Seth Gillihan. Seth offers a model of fresh and practical strategies that build upon traditional techniques of CBT to transcend our capacity to control negative thinking and take the right steps to live in the present and enjoy life. Tune in to learn how these powerful practices can unlock a new path to healing.
Seth Gillihan, PhD, is a licensed psychologist who specializes in mindful cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT). He was a full-time faculty member at the University of Pennsylvania from 2008 to 2012, and taught in the Psychology Department at Haverford College from 2012-2015. He has been in private practice since 2012. Seth completed a doctorate in psychology at the University of Pennsylvania. He is the author of multiple books on mindfulness and CBT, Therapy Advisor with the self-therapy app Bloom, a medical reviewer for Everyday Health, and host of the Think Act Be podcast.
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| 286. Not Drinking Tonight with Amanda White | 18 Jan 2023 | 01:05:07 | |
Alcohol is a pervasive part of many of our lives, but have you ever questioned your relationship with alcohol? Taking an honest look at the way we use alcohol can be a powerful tool in identifying our motivations behind drinking, allowing us to make more conscious decisions and better manage our consumption. Therapist, Author, and Founder of Therapy for Women, Amanda E. White is determined to challenge the traditional “black-and-white” outlook on “alcoholism” by encouraging people to unlock a deeper understanding of their relationship with alcohol. Exploring practices from Amanda’s books Not Drinking Tonight, A Guide to Creating A Sober Life and Not Drinking Tonight: The Workbook: A Clinician's Guide to Helping Clients Examine Their Relationship with Alcohol, we examine how to identify the purpose alcohol serves in your life and how to use this knowledge to recognize patterns of unhealthy behavior, develop boundaries and create a healthier lifestyle. Listen and Learn:
About Amanda E. White Amanda E. White is a licensed therapist and the creator of the popular Instagram account @therapyforwomen. She is the author of the book “Not Drinking Tonight: A Guide to Creating A Sober Life You Love,” and the corresponding workbook by the same title. She is the founder and owner of the group therapy practice, Therapy for Women Center, based in Philadelphia serving clients across the country. In her clinical work, she specializes in substance use disorders. People are drawn to Amanda’s unique expertise, accessible approach to healing and mental health. She has been featured in notable publications such as Forbes, Washington Post, Self, Shape, Women’s Health Magazine, and more.
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| 285. What Do You Want Out of Life? Values Fulfillment Theory with Valerie Tiberius | 11 Jan 2023 | 01:05:11 | |
Taking the time to reflect on our values and goals is an essential practice for living a meaningful life. By considering what is most important to us, we can gain a greater understanding of our place and purpose in this world. It can help us to determine what direction to go in and how to prioritize our time and energy. Reflecting on our values and goals can also help us to stay motivated and inspired as we work towards achieving them. Valerie Tiberius, Professor of Philosophy, is here to provide us with a practical look at how to define and fulfill our values and goals. Through illustrative examples from her book, What Do You Want Out of Life?: A Philosophical Guide to Figuring Out What Matters, Valerie guides us in finding our true purpose in life and how to get there. With her wise words and actionable advice, you’ll unlock the power to create the life you want and overcome obstacles to achieving it. Don't let this opportunity pass, take the chance to define your aspirations and make the most out of life! Listen and Learn:
Valerie Tiberius is the Paul W. Frenzel Chair in Liberal Arts and Professor of Philosophy at the University of Minnesota. Her work explores the ways in which philosophy and psychology can both contribute to the study of well-being and virtue. She is the author of The Reflective Life: Living Wisely With Our Limits (Oxford 2008), Moral Psychology: A Contemporary Introduction (Routledge 2015), Well-Being as Value Fulfillment: How We Can Help Others to Live Well (Oxford, 2018), and What Do You Want out of Life?: A Philosophical Guide to Figuring Out What Matters (Princeton University Press, 2023). She has published numerous articles on the topics of practical reasoning, prudential virtues, well-being, and moral psychology, and has received grants from the Templeton Foundation and the National Endowment for the Humanities. She served as President of the Central Division of the American Philosophical Association from 2016-17.
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| 284. Things We Love with Aaron Ahuvia | 04 Jan 2023 | 01:01:55 | |
We often form deep emotional relationships with things that are important to us, from cherished items to hobbies and more materialistic possessions. But why do we become so emotionally attached to the things that we love and how does this affect our lives? Here to delve deeper into the topic and talk about his book, The Things We Love: How Our Passions Connect Us and Make Us Who We Are, is author and expert on non-interpersonal love, Dr. Aaron Ahuvia. We explore the psychology of how passions shape our identity and connect us in meaningful ways, as well as offer advice for optimizing how we love and use our things to live more value-aligned lives.
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About Dr. Aaron Ahuvia Dr. Aaron Ahuvia is the most widely published and cited academic expert on non-interpersonal love. A scientific study listed him as one of the top 20 most influential scientists studying consumer behavior, out of thousands US researchers working on related topics. Dr. Ahuvia has been at the forefront of this research since he published the first major scientific study on this topic entitled I Love It! Towards a Unifying Theory of Love Across Diverse Love Objects, over twenty years ago. Professor Ahuvia has over 100 academic papers and conference presentations. His research has been quoted in Time, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Glamour, and major publications in Europe and Japan. Dr. Ahuvia has also appeared on public radio talk shows as well as popular Television shows such as the Oprah Winfrey Show.
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| 283. Healthy Habits with Dayna Lee-Baggley (Re-release) | 28 Dec 2022 | 00:45:00 | |
Happy New Year, dear listeners! As we begin this new year, it's a great time to start developing some new healthy habits. It may seem like a challenge, but we can do it! Let's make this year a time for taking care of ourselves and striving for the best version of ourselves. If you're serious about your health but don't feel the urge to jump out of bed, drag yourself to the gym, and reward your progress with a kale smoothie, this episode is for you! We all know what constitutes a healthy lifestyle, but it can be hard to stay consistent, especially when it feels like a chore! Join Debbie for an engaging discussion with Dr. Dayna Lee-Baggley, author of Healthy Habits Suck: How to Get Off the Couch and Live a Healthy Life….Even if You Don’t Want To, about evidence-based strategies on how to overcome the internal obstacles that make behavior change hard, and how to sustain lifelong healthy habits. Listen and Learn:
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About Dayna Lee-Baggley Dr. Dayna Lee-Baggley is a Registered Clinical Psychologist in Nova Scotia, British Columbia, Ontario and Alberta with reciprocal agreements for clients in Atlantic Canada and Quebec. For close to 15 years she worked as a Clinical Health Psychologist for medical, surgery, and cancer care units at the hospital. She has taken all this experience to open Dr. Lee-Baggley and Associates, a virtual health psychology clinic offering clinical interventions, training for healthcare providers, and educational courses on health related topics. She holds an Assistant Professor appointment in the Department of Family Medicine and a cross-appointment in the Department of Psychology and Neuroscience at Dalhousie University and an Adjunct Professor appointment in the Department of Industrial and Organizational Psychology at Saint Mary’s University. She is an internationally recognized trainer in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. Related Episodes:
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| 282. Toxic Positivity with Whitney Goodman | 21 Dec 2022 | 00:52:29 | |
Toxic positivity is a phenomenon that has become increasingly prevalent in recent years. It is characterized by the constant reinforcement of an overly optimistic attitude, to the point of ignoring, invalidating, or minimizing the hardships or feelings faced by individuals. This can create a sense of disconnect between people. It can also be detrimental to those struggling with mental health issues, as it invalidates their experiences and makes them feel like they are not allowed to have genuine emotions. To address the concept and challenges of toxic positivity to individuals and relationships, we consulted Psychotherapist, Whitney Goodman. Walking us through her book aptly titled Toxic Positivity: Keeping It Real in a World Obsessed with Being Happy, Whitney helps us understand how to create an atmosphere of open communication, where people can be honest about their feelings without fear of judgment or invalidation. Listen and Learn:
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About Whitney Goodman Whitney Goodman, LMFT, is the radically honest psychotherapist behind the hugely popular Instagram account @sitwithwhit. She is also an author and the owner of The Collaborative Counseling Center, a virtual therapy practice in Florida. Whitney's debut book TOXIC POSITIVITY: KEEPING IT REAL IN A WORLD OBSESSED WITH BEING HAPPY, shows readers how to shift the goal from being happy to being authentic in order to live fully. A millennial on a quest to make mental health information accessible and easy to understand, Whitney helps people who want to improve their relationships and emotional wellness. She earned her undergraduate degree at Tulane University and a graduate degree in Counseling Psychology from The University of Miami. Whitney has a column in Psychology Today and has been featured in several publications, including The New York Times, Teen Vogue, NY Magazine, and Good Morning America. Related Episodes:
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| 281. Belonging Uncertainty and Bridging Divides with Geoffrey Cohen | 14 Dec 2022 | 01:09:00 | |
Belonging uncertainty is a common experience in social life. It is a feeling of not fitting into a particular social group or environment. People who experience this may feel like an outsider, isolated from those around them, or unable to connect with people in their environment. Professor of Psychology, Geoffery L. Cohen is here to remind us of the importance of fostering self-awareness to better understand our feelings and the actions we should take when faced with a sense of belonging uncertainty. Geoffery's book Belonging: The Science of Creating Connection and Bridging Divides provides a fascinating look into the realm of social psychology and how it can be used to combat the daunting feeling of not belonging. Through Geoffery's knowledge and insight, you will gain a clear understanding of the changes that can be made to conquer feelings of belonging uncertainty. His work is invaluable in the effort to empower individuals to create strong, meaningful connections and build bridges of understanding and empathy. Listen and Learn:
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Geoffrey L. Cohen is a Professor of Psychology and the James G. March Professor of Organizational Studies in Education and Business at Stanford University. He is a social psychologist by training and received his PHD at Stanford and his BA at Cornell. Professor Cohen’s research examines the processes that shape people’s sense of belonging and self-concept, and the role that these processes play in various social problems. He has studied the big and small threats to belonging and self-integrity that people encounter in school, work, health care settings, politics, communities, and relationships. He and others have developed concrete, science-backed strategies to create more welcoming spaces for people from all walks of life. He believes that the development of psychological theory depends not just on descriptive and observational research but on theory-driven intervention. He has long been inspired by Kurt Lewin’s quip, “The best way to understand something is to try to change it.” Related Episodes:
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| 280. Choose Growth with Scott Barry Kaufman | 07 Dec 2022 | 00:55:47 | |
Striving for what you want in life can be difficult, especially when you find yourself in a stagnant situation or lack direction. However, with the assistance of Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, a Cognitive Scientist, and Humanistic Psychologist, you can learn how to implement the steps necessary to achieve your ambitions. Take a journey with us as we explore the life-changing work of Dr. Scott and Jordyn H Feingold in their new book, Choose Growth: A Workbook for Transcending Trauma, Fear, and Self-Doubt! This episode is full of empowering insights that will help you unlock your potential and create an inspiring new path for yourself. We talk about all kinds of exciting topics from reaching our goals through nontraditional paths, the growth that comes from embracing uncomfortable experiences, and the importance of finding the harmony between overusing and underusing your strengths. Listen and Learn:
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About Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman Scott Barry Kaufman is a cognitive scientist and humanistic psychologist exploring the mind, creativity, and the depths of human potential. He is a professor at Columbia University and founder and director of the Center for the Science of Human Potential. Scott hosts the super popular The Psychology Podcast and uses his research to help all kinds of minds live a creative, fulfilling, and self-actualized life. He is the author and editor of 10 books including his newest, Choose Growth: A Workbook for Transcending Trauma, Fear, and Self-Doubt that he co-authored with Jordyn Feingold and that we’ll be discussing today. Welcome Scott! Related Episodes:
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| 279. ACT for Healing Black Racial Trauma with Jennifer Shepard Payne | 30 Nov 2022 | 01:05:20 | |
Racial trauma has been caused by centuries of discrimination and violence against African Americans; a legacy of injustice that has had a long-term impact on mental, emotional, and psychical well-being. While there is no one-size-fits-all approach to healing Black racial trauma; transformation and change are still possible. A powerful tool to help those who have been impacted by racism is Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT). We talk with Research Scientist and Clinician, Jennifer Shepard Payne who in her book, Out of the Fire: Healing Black Trauma Caused by Systemic Racism Using Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, offers a thorough examination of the application of ACT to the unique problems that African Americans face. Jennifer describes how she is culturally adapting traditional ACT practices, and how this therapy can help African American communities heal from generations of oppression.
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About Jennifer Shepard Payne Jennifer Shepard Payne, Ph.D., LCSW, is a Research Scientist and Clinician for the Kennedy Krieger Institute in the Center for Child and Family Traumatic Stress (CCFTS) and theCenter for the Neuroscience of Social Injustice. She is also an Assistant Professor in the John Hopkins University School of Medicine with a primary appointment within the Department of Psychiatry, Division of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry. She serves as the coordinator of the Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) Clinical Services within the adult segment of CCFTS. Dr. Payne received her doctorate from the UCLA School of Public Affairs and is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with many years of experience in mental health clinical practice and administration. Her research interests include developing culturally tailored community-based depression and trauma interventions and addressing minority mental health disparities. For several years, Dr. Payne has been working on culturally tailoring Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) for African American communities experiencing racial trauma. She developed a culturally-tailored ACT intervention called POOF® and is training and consulting on the model: www.POOF-PullingOutOfFire.com. Additionally, she is a board member of MEND, an international organization of clinicians of color who are trauma-trained to help oppressed communities (www.mendminds.org). Her new book is called Out of the Fire: Healing Black Trauma Caused by Systemic Racism Using Acceptance and Commitment Therapy.
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| 278. The Gift with Edith Eger and Marianne Engle | 23 Nov 2022 | 01:00:23 | |
As we go through life, we all have experiences, both positive and negative, that shape who we are. Sometimes, we focus too much on the negative experiences and start to think "why me?". In order to counter this negative spiral, we can choose to focus on the positive and use this to empower ourselves. Instead, ask yourself "what now?". You can improve your outlook on life by changing your mindset. This in turn will help free yourself from limiting beliefs, heal and move forward. With great admiration and gratitude, we welcome an inspiring mother-daughter duo, Dr. Edith Eger, and Dr. Marianne Engel who through their expertise as Clinical Psychologists, work together to promote healing, positivity, and personal growth. In this deeply personal, yet profound interview, we take a look at the learnings presented in the latest edition of Dr. Eger’s uplifting and actionable guide to healing, The Gift: 14 Lessons to Save Your Life. Paralleled by lessons from the book, we also learn about Edith’s courageous story of surviving Auschwitz and finding her path to freedom, as well as Marianne’s own experience as the child of an immigrant parent and holocaust survivor, navigating marriage and raising children. Focusing on overcoming adversity, relationships, giving up shame, and living with purpose, we bring you a powerful and thought-provoking episode that inspires you to take on any obstacles life presents. Listen and Learn:
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Dr. Edith Eger is a sought-after clinical psychologist and lecturer who brings a message of healing and personal growth in her speaking and in her books The Choice and The Gift. She uses her past as a Holocaust survivor and thriver to inspire people to tap their full potential and shape their very best destinies regardless of their circumstances. It’s a message of CHOICE to move from recovery to discovery and beyond and encouragement to find the gifts of even the most painful situations. About Marianne Engle: Dr. Marianne Engle, is Edith’s daughter and collaborator. Marianne is also a psychologist with training in sports psychology. As a child, Marianne watched her mother struggle in the aftermath of the Holocaust. In fact, Edith didn’t tell Marianne about her experiences in the Holocaust until Marianne discovered it by finding a book in her parent’s collection and put the pieces together. Edith and Marianne are an inspiring mother-daughter duo working together to bring healing and positivity to the world and we’ll be focusing on messages offered in the newest edition of Dr. Eger’s book, The Gift: 14 Lessons to Save Your Life, which is colored with Marianne’s influence
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| 400. Behind the Scenes with Us | 26 Mar 2025 | 00:53:15 | |
Off-the-clockers, it's time to celebrate because Psychologists Off The Clock just hit 400 episodes! 🎉 For this special milestone episode, the cohosts wanted to pull back the curtain on the podcast: why we do it, how it’s changed our lives, behind-the-scenes blunders, keeping the podcast financially afloat, and the incredible friendships we’ve built along the way. You all sent in questions for the team, and we’re answering them! Wondering how we choose guests or which co-host gets to interview which guest? We’re revealing it all. And as an extra treat, our podcast production manager, Jai, will be joining us to chat about editing, hilarious bloopers, memorable lessons and episodes, and give you a peek at what really happens in post-production. And to close out the episode, we’re giving a huge shoutout to some of our amazing Patreon supporters who are helping us deliver the podcast ad-free and making it possible for us to continue bringing you great science-backed psychology content! So please grab your favorite drink, hit play, and come celebrate with us! Resources:
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| 277. Silence is Golden with Justin Zorn & Leigh Marz | 16 Nov 2022 | 01:03:55 | |
Finding moments of silence can be difficult in our chaotic, constantly-connected world. But, Justin Zorn and Leigh Marz, co-authors of ‘Golden: The Power of Silence in a World of Noise’, say it's worth the effort. Shedding light on the many dimensions of silence, Justin and Leigh explore how cutting through the clutter can lead to greater clarity, structure, and improved health in our lives. You'll discover how to transcend the noise and uncover a more fulfilling life and edified mind in the process. Listen and Learn:
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Justin Talbot Zorn has served as both a strategist and a meditation teacher in the US Congress. A Harvard-and-Oxford-trained specialist in the economics and psychology of human thriving, he has written for the Washington Post,The Atlantic, Harvard Business Review, Foreign Policy, and other publications. Justin is the coauthor of Golden: The Power of Silence in a World of Noise, published by HarperCollins in the US, Penguin/Random House in the UK, and globally in 11 other languages. He is cofounder of Astrea Strategies, a consultancy that bridges contemplation and action, helping leaders and teams envision and communicate solutions to complex challenges. Justin lives in Santa Fe, New Mexico, with his wife and three children. Leigh Marz is a collaboration and leadership coach for major universities, corporations, and federal agencies as well as a longtime student of pioneering researchers and practitioners of the ritualized use of psychedelic medicines in the West. She has led training programs to promote an experimental mindset among teams at NASA and a decade-long cross-sector collaboration to reduce toxic chemicals in products, in partnership with Green Science Policy Institute, Harvard University, IKEA, Google, and Kaiser Permanente. Leigh is the coauthor of Golden: The Power of Silence in a World of Noise, published by HarperCollins in the US, Penguin/Random House in the UK, and globally in 11 other languages. She is the co-founder of Astrea Strategies. Leigh lives in Berkeley, California, with her husband and daughter. Related Episodes: 139. Neurodharma with Rick Hanson (Part 1) 140. Neurodharma with Rick Hanson (Part 2) 177. Mind-Body Practices for Stress and Overwhelm with Rebekkah LaDyne 201. Fierce Compassion with Kristin Neff 210. Strategies for Becoming Safely Embodied with Deirdre Fay 232. Grounded to Soar Into 2022 with Brad Stulberg
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| 276. Assertive Communication Skills with Randy Paterson | 09 Nov 2022 | 01:07:05 | |
Assertive communication is one of the most important skills when it comes to human relationships. Be it in the workplace, with family, or in friendships, it is a skill that you must learn to develop in order to communicate in ways that are respectful, clear, and effective. Without assertive communication, your goals will be difficult to meet. Joining us for this episode is Randy Paterson, Psychologist, Director of Changeways Clinic, and Author of The Assertiveness Workbook. Randy breaks down the significance of assertive communication and associated misconceptions, when assertiveness is not always the best approach, and the different communication styles you can use to confidently express your needs, wants, and opinions in your personal and professional life. Listen and Learn:
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About Randy Paterson: Dr. Randy Paterson is a psychologist in Vancouver, British Columbia. He is the director of Changeways Clinic; and provides training programs across Canada and internationally on evidence-based mental health practice. He is the author of several books, including: How to Be Miserable, How to Be Miserable in Your Twenties, Private Practice Made Simple, and The Assertiveness Workbook, which is now in its second edition. He offers courses for professionals and the public through his online teaching website, psychologysalon.teachable.com. Related Episodes:
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| 275. Work, Parent, Thrive with Yael Schonbrun | 02 Nov 2022 | 01:04:41 | |
Working parenthood is not for the faint of heart. Sometimes the stress of toggling between family and professional roles can feel like too much! And... it can also be a meaningful source of joy, inspiration, and creativity. In this extra special episode, we talk to our very own co-host, Dr. Yael Schonbrun about her new book, Work, Parent Thrive: 12 Science-Backed Strategies to Ditch Guilt, Manage Overwhelm, and Grow Connection (When Everything Feels Like Too Much). Yael draws on psychology research as well as her own experience as a working mom of three, to offer ideas that will help even the most stressed of working parents! This book banishes the idea that the key to ultimate working parenthood is the ability to do it all. Instead, the key is to learn how these roles, together, help you thrive. Listen and Learn: ● How Yael’s own experience as a hard-working mother of three informed her ideas for her book. ● How to shift from a “work family conflict mindset” to a “work family enrichment mindset” ● Why interruptions that feel really annoying might actually be good for you. ● Whether or not finding perfect work-life balance is a realistic goal (spoiler alert: it’s not) ● The role of values in making choices about work and family ● How to deal with parental guilt effectively ● How working parenthood offers opportunities for growth ● About how cooking has offered Jill a lesson in when to grit and when to quit ● The power of rest, and what Yael is up to on her tech-free Saturday sabbath days Resources: ● Get your copy of Work, Parent, Thrive! ● Check out Yael’s webpage and her POTC episodes! ● Read Yael’s New York Times article on working parenthood, and other media appearances in the Wall Street Journal, Greater Good Science Center, Behavioral Scientist, Kveller, Lilith Magazine, The Wise Brain Bulletin, Psychology Today, and Motherly. ● Grab your copy of all our favorite books at bookshop.org/shop/offtheclockpsych. ● Check out Debbie, Yael, and Jill’s websites to access their offerings, sign up for their newsletters, buy their books, and more! About Yael: Dr. Yael Schonbrun is a co-host of the greatest podcast of all times, Psychologists Off the Clock, and that’s all you need to know about her. Just kidding! Yael Schonbrun, Ph.D., is a clinical psychologist, assistant professor at Brown University, co-host of Psychologists Off the Clock, and mother of three. She has a Ph.D. in clinical psychology from the University of Colorado, Boulder, and completed her postgraduate training at Brown University. Yael’s academic research explores the interaction between relationship problems and mental health conditions. She has authored the book Work, Parent Thrive: 12 Science-Backed Strategies to Ditch Guilt, Manage Overwhelm, and Grow Connection (When Everything Feels Like Too Much), as well as chapters in several books and dozens of scientific articles. In her private practice, writing, and podcasting, Yael uses evidence-based science to help individuals and couples learn to manage work, parenting, and marriage in more effective and fulfilling ways. Yael’s writing on work, parenting, and relationships has appeared in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Greater Good Science Center, Behavioral Scientist, Kveller, Lilith Magazine, The Wise Brain Bulletin, Psychology Today, and Motherly. You can follow her on Twitter, where she posts about the science and practice of work and family. Related Episodes: - 24. Choosing Both: Straddling Meaningful Career and Parenthood with Yael Schonbrun - 33. Couples with Young Children: Relationship Challenges and Strategies with Yael Schonbrun - 83. The Tao of Work and Family Balance with Tod Perry and Carl Totton - 174. How to Work and Parent Mindfully with Lori Mihalich-Levin - 211. Subtract with Leidy Klotz - 267. You are Not a Horrible Parent with Carla Naumburg
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