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BONUS: Gypsy Rose Blanchard's Partner Ken Urker Has Died
Season 27
Saturday, October 3, 2026 • Duration 15:01
Ken Urker, Gypsy Rose Blanchard's partner and the father of their daughter, Aurora, died on October 1, 2026, his 34th birthday. The sheriff is still investigating, and no official cause of death has been released. Gypsy has said publicly that she believes it was an overdose, and that she doesn't know whether it was intentional or accidental.
Throughout The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Gypsy told me that Ken was struggling with relentless online harassment. The night he died, she texted me three words: "They killed him." In this bonus episode, I talk about what we know so far, who Ken was to Gypsy, what the research says about online harassment, and why I'm worried about Aurora and Gypsy.
Whatever you think about Gypsy, a little girl lost her dad this week. Before you post about a real person, remember that a real person is reading it.
If you or someone you know is struggling, call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline.
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According to the anti-Gypsy camp, they've found it. The smoking gun. Gypsy Rose Blanchard has a rare genetic disorder, a microdeletion on chromosome 1, and depending on who you ask online, that one word explains the feeding tube, the leukemia, the paralysis. All of it. Which means, according to them, Dee Dee Blanchard wasn't abusing her daughter at all. She was just a mom trying to help a sick kid.
So I brought in a genetic counselor and made her explain this thing to me like I'm five, because I am not a geneticist and neither is anyone else arguing about this on TikTok.
Kira Dineen, a genetic counselor, walks through what a microdeletion on chromosome 1q21.1 actually is and what it can and can't explain.
Featuring
Kira Dineen, genetic counselor and host of DNA TodayAndrea Dunlop, host of Nobody Should Believe MeGypsy Rose BlanchardBree, Fancy Macelli, Audacious Audrey, and Amber & Alaura of Into the Weeds
Credits
Written and hosted by Javier LeivaEdited by Puneeth Shenoy with The Podcast PunditsTheme music by Joe Basile, thechicken.net
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It's like getting to the end of a movie and discovering the twist, then going back to the beginning because every scene means something else. That's what I've been doing all week with the Rick and Tanya Fernandez interviews. This time we're looking at Shelbey Fernandez's surgeries, what the doctor told police in 2019, and new audio from Shelbey Fernandez herself, recorded before her arrest.
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The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 3
Season 27 · Episode 3
Tuesday, August 25, 2026 • Duration 37:22
Long before Gypsy Rose Blanchard's mother was murdered, the tension inside that house was already at a breaking point. The private videos between Gypsy and Nick Godejohn that nobody was supposed to see. The evidence of violence that the HBO documentary never showed you. And the text messages from the night of June 9th, 2015, read out loud, minute by minute. They are not what you expect.
Gypsy's critics say she was the violent one all along. That it was Dee Dee who had reason to be afraid.
Chapters
00:00 Everyone Has A Hot Take02:26 The BB Gun04:09 Chained To The Bed05:11 Why Not Just Run Away?07:23 Nancy Simpson: She Was Shopping For A Man09:22 That Bitch Is Dead10:40 Victim Doesn't Mean Innocent11:19 The Plea Deal13:17 When Nick Became The Victim16:16 Functions Like A 10-Year-Old17:52 I Still Love Her18:43 Activating The Dark Side20:34 The Texts From June 9, 201523:58 What Gypsy Makes Of It25:15 Andrea Dunlop On The Autism Argument26:56 Grace And Accountability28:01 Why Don't They Show You The Same Grace?29:35 On The Plea Deal30:15 Is It In All Of Us?
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Written and produced by Javier Leiva. Edited by Puneet Shenoy with The Podcast Pundits. Theme music by Joe Basile, thechicken.net.
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The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 2
Season 27 · Episode 2
Tuesday, August 18, 2026 • Duration 42:18
Her critics say Gypsy Rose Blanchard can't keep her story straight. So I sat down with her for almost three hours and asked about all of it. The pills through the feeding tube. The video where she tells Nick Godejohn she'd been hiding that she could walk since she was seven. And the Demona videos she has never addressed in front of a reporter.
You'll also meet the mother-daughter team behind Into the Weeds (youtube.com/@into-the-weeds-podcast), whose records requests produced what the internet calls the Gypstein Files.
Binge the first three episodes now, ad-free, on Patreon (patreon.com/pretendpodcast) or PRETEND+ on Apple Podcasts.
Chapters:
(00:00) Beignets And A Drive Into The Bayou
(01:50) The Questions Her Critics Say She Dodges
(02:36) No Mansion, Just A Fourplex
(04:48) The Breaking Point Was A Throat Surgery
(06:47) This Is My Voice
(08:19) Vicodin Through The Feeding Tube
(09:53) Did She Ever Go To School?
(11:46) Into The Weeds Files The Records Request
(12:59) What's Actually In The Gypstein Files
(15:59) The Video Where She Walks
(17:46) What Her Medical Records Say
(20:43) I Ask Gypsy To Settle It
(23:04) Videos Never Meant To Be Public
(25:56) Slave, Master, And An Old Facebook Account
(28:23) Dan Glidewell Testifies Under Oath
(29:46) The Demona Video
(34:25) Those Videos Were Disgusting
(35:14) Isolation And The Price Of Freedom
(36:10) Next Time On Pretend
Written by Javier Leiva. Edited by Puneet Shenoy with The Podcast Pundits. Theme music by Joe Basile, thechicken.net.
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