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A new season of Plan Sea17 Sep 202400:05:07

Carbon to Sea & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal announce a new collaboration for the second season of “Plan Sea” — a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions. Plan Sea will release episodes on a semi-weekly basis throughout Fall 2024, and is hosted by Wil Burns and Anna Madlener.

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Dr. Lennart Bach and Dr. Veronica Tamsitt on (Cost-)Efficiency of Iron Fertilization in the Southern Ocean05 Mar 202400:59:26

Our guests today, Lennart Bach, at the Institute for Marine and Antarctic Studies, University of Tasmania, and Veronica Tamsitt, Head of Oceanography at the mCDR MRV company, Submarine, are two of the authors of a very interesting research article recently published in the journal Global Biogeochemical Cycles, titled “Identifying the Most (Cost-)Efficient Regions for CO2 Removal With Iron Fertilization in the Southern Ocean.” 

Ocean Iron Fertilization (OIF) is really the “OG” of marine-based CDR approaches, with the Ocean Iron Hypothesis being advanced by oceanographer John Martin in the 1980s, and 13 field experiments ensuing over the course of two decades, beginning in 1993, with the last experiment conducted in 2009. 

It’s fair to say that interest in OIF largely fell into abeyance for a protracted period of time. However, recently, largely due to the efforts of researchers at Woods Hole, including Ken Buesseler, who we interviewed on a previous episode, as well as a spate of recent high-profile publications, OIF seems to be front and center again in the discussion of mCDR methods.

In this episode we discuss some of the most pertinent issues to assessing the potential role of OIF in a marine CDR portfolio, including costs, risks, and legal considerations. We hope this interview can do justice to some of the article’s most important conclusions.

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Mike Kelland of Planetary Technologies on Ocean Alkalinity Enhancement Policy and Community Engagement17 May 202301:08:05

Mike Kelland, CEO and co-founder of Planetary Technologies, an ocean alkalinity enhancement (OAE) startup from Canada, joins Plan Sea on this new episode.

Mike, Anna and Wil discuss the basics, science and challenges surrounding ocean alkalinity enhancement — a method whereby the capacity of ocean water to draw down additional CO2 from the atmosphere is increased by increasing the alkalinity of this water.
The better part of this episode focuses on the most recent challenges of Planetary around their community engagement and their first planned pilot site in Cornwall, UK. Mike shares learnings, insights and future outlook on the research needed for OAE to reduce uncertainties.

Some more resources to learn about OAE and Planetary:

Planetary website

Details about the Cornwall pilot

Carbon Removal Newsroom with Will Burt, Head of Ocean Science and Pete Chargin, VP of Commercialization and Community Relations

The Ocean Embassy at the Ocean Visions summit, featuring Will Burt on Monitoring, Reporting and Verification

The Ocean Embassy with Dr. Lennart Bach: What is Ocean Alkalinity Enhancement?

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Exploring the Risks and Riches of the Deep Sea Ecosystems in Climate Interventions: A Discussion with Lisa Levin02 May 202300:36:58

Our guest, Lisa Levin, is a distinguished professor at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography and the lead author of a recent article in the journal Science called "Deep Sea Impacts of Climate Interventions." She explains that most ocean-based carbon removal technologies involve dumping materials and carbon into the ocean floor, which could affect the many different ecosystems of the deep sea. The deep sea is vast and full of biodiversity, which plays a critical role in regulating the planet's climate and maintaining its health. Lisa identifies the risks associated with ocean-based climate interventions, such as changing the light regime and adding particles or nutrients to the ocean, which could have negative consequences for deep-sea ecosystems.

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Matt Long on the [C]Worthy initiative for MRV modeling frameworks12 Apr 202300:46:09

Matthew Long joins Wil Burns and Anna Madlener to discuss his role at the National Center for Atmospheric Research: Climate and Global Dynamics and the Cworthy project, a non-profit research organization to develop the scientific and technical tools associated with quantifying ocean carbon dioxide removal and leveraging those tools to bolster the monitoring, reporting, and verification of carbon dioxide removal.

Matthew discusses the research that he conducts and the successes and challenges that the research has identified. 

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Philip Boyd on Operational monitoring for Detection, Attribution and Determination of Side Effects of Marine CDR28 Mar 202300:55:38

Philip Boyd joins Wil Burns and Anna Madlener in this episode of the podcast to discuss  a recent publication, "Operational Monitoring of Open-Ocean Carbon Dioxide Removal Deployments: Detection, Attribution, and Determination of Side Effects". Phil discusses the technological and scientific focus areas necessary to enable operational monitoring as highlighted in the paper by him and his co-authors. This includes tools to be used, field implementation, reporting and verification and  three guiding principles they have identified to enable operational monitoring.

Philip Boyd is a professor of Marine Biogeochemistry at the Institute of Marine and Antarctic Studies at the University of Tasmania.

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Jessica Cross on The Pathways for Ocean-Based Carbon Removal Approaches14 Mar 202300:45:37

Dr. Jessica Cross joins Anna Madlener and Wil Burns on the podcast to discuss the driving and scientifically informed academic, entrepreneurial, and legislative pathways for ocean-based carbon removal approaches.

Jessica is a research oceanographer at the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Association (NOAA) where she leads the Carbon Dioxide Removal Task Force and manages the Carbon System Observing Research and Development for the Alaska and Pacific Arctic regions. 

Jessica, Anna, and Wil have a great discussion on the successes and challenges they are currently facing in the carbon removal field and three things she would like to see the industry focus on over the next year.


Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Cultivating and Sinking Sargassum for CO2 Uptake with Seafields Solutions01 Mar 202300:57:11

Dr. Franziska Elmer and John Auckland join Wil Burns and new cohost Anna Madlener on the podcast to discuss the startup Seafields Solutions. 

Seafields uses compressed sargassum bales to function as natural “carbon batteries.” The bales are sunk into the abyssal plain of the ocean, which will local away the CO2 for millennia. 

Franziska and John tell you about their company and their process where they discuss how their company will work towards getting permitting, third-party impact assessments, and navigating the rules of regulation in order to accomplish their goals. 

Seafileds Website: https://www.seafields.eco/ 

 

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Mowgli Holmes on How Carbon Sequestration will be Measured, Reported, and Verified (MRV) in the Future13 Feb 202300:47:44

Host Wil Burns and producer, Andrew Lewin, welcome Mowgli Homes to the podcast to discuss the measuring, reporting, and verification (MRV) of carbon sequestration in the future. Mowgli is the CEO of Submarine, which is hoping to help the industry navigate the shoals of MRV in a cost-effective and high-integrity fashion.

Mowgli discusses where the industry is going and how it will address some of the challenges in the future. 

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Arin Crumley and Christian Robinson on Pull to Refresh, a Carbon Reversal Program20 Jan 202300:51:51

Arin Crumley and Christian Robinson join Wil Burns and guest host (and producer), Andrew Lewin on the podcast to discuss their business called Pull to Refresh. The idea was borne out of a number of interactions on Clubhouse to help people and businesses reverse the effects of climate change.

Hear more from Arin and Christian on how the business was started and the company's approach to seaweed sequestration.

Pull to Refresh Website: https://pulltorefresh.earth/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/refreshingearth/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/refreshingearth
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/refreshingearth
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pulltorefresh/

 

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Romany Webb on Recommendations for Permitting Seaweed Cultivation in California03 Jan 202300:29:22

Wil Burns speaks to Romany Webb, an Associate Research Scholar at Columbia Law School and Deputy Director of the Sabin Center for Climate Change Law, about local legislation around coastal and ocean carbon removal. Romany recently authored a paper entitled "Permitting seaweed cultivation for carbon sequestration in California: barriers and recommendations" and is on the podcast to discuss her experience with state and local legislation on the matter. 

Romany Webb: https://climate.law.columbia.edu/directory/romany-m-webb

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Steve Crooks and Elizabeth Guinessey on The Seascape Initiative20 Dec 202200:36:26

Our inaugural episode is a critical one and one in which host Wil Burns explores often throughout this podcast how we qualify, verify, and report claims of carbon sequestration from ocean-based approaches. Wil is joined by two experts in the field, Steve Crooks, who is the co-founder at the consultancy Sylvestrum Climate Associates as well as a research associate with the Smithsonian Institution, and Elizabeth Guinessey, who is the manager of the Food and Blue Carbon Innovation node at Verra, which is a non-profit organization that among other roles, serves as a secretariat for the development and management of carbon market protocols. 

The conversation centers around the new Seascape Initiative and its potential role in carbon dioxide removal. 

Steve Crooks: https://www.silvestrum.com/the-team

Elizabeth Guinessey: https://verra.org/staff/liz-guinessey/

 

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

CarbonPlan's Freya Chay on Market Shaping and Uncertainty in Marine Carbon Dioxide Removal 13 Feb 202400:53:29

Our guest today is Freya Chay, Carbon Removal Program Lead at CarbonPlan, a non-profit organization in the US working on data and science for climate action by improving the transparency and scientific integrity of climate solutions with open data and tools. 

Carbon Plan and Freya have produced a number of stellar publications and tools, widely regarded in the field and insightfully crafted. Notably, the CDR primer is a bibliography of crucial concepts to understand if one wants to enter the world of CDR. Similarly, the CDR Verification Framework is an insightful and informative tool to explore detailed layers of CDR approaches.

In this episode, we discuss Freya's perspective on barriers to scaling, market responsibilities and market-shaping opportunities. We also discuss uncertainty and opportunities in Monitoring, Reporting and Verification. 

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Sara Nawaz and Terre Satterfield on Just, Responsible and Socially Viable Carbon Removal 23 Jan 202400:45:34

Welcome back to the Plan Sea Podcast as we kick off our final stretch of season 1. 
Today's episode focuses on the findings and observations in a recently published paper in the Journal of Environmental Science and Policy entitled 

Towards just, responsible, and socially viable carbon removal: lessons from offshore DACCS research for early-stage carbon removal projects


We welcome the paper's coauthors Sara Nawaz, Director of Research at the Institute of Carbon Removal, Law and Policy, and Terre Satterfield, Professor of Culture, Risk and Environment at the Institute for Resources, Environment and Sustainability, University of British Columbia to the episode.  

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Dr. Matt Eisaman and Frances Simpson-Allen on Ebb Carbon's Ocean Alkalinity Enhancement Approach and Developments06 Nov 202300:48:31

Dr. Matt Eisaman and Frances Simpson-Allen join Plan Sea to discuss Ebb Carbon's marine carbon dioxide removal approach and their latest developments. Matt is a cofounder and Chief Scientist as well as Associate Professor at Yale University in the Department of Earth & Planetary Sciences and the Yale Center for Natural Carbon Capture (YCNCC). Frances is their Director for Policy and Market Development. 

We discuss the necessity of field trials, challenges on their path to scaleup, as well as very importantly the relevance and importance of social engagement strategies. Particularly, we converse about Ebb's most recent public-private partnerships and plans for the upcoming year. As always, we also dive into the world of regulation and policy and how that interacts with Ebb's approach and operation. 

 

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

David Koweek of Ocean Visions on the Importance of Interdisciplinary Networks for Marine Carbon Dioxide Removal24 Oct 202300:45:54

Today’s guest is David Koweek, who holds a PhD from Stanford University in Earth System Science and is currently the Chief Scientist of Ocean Visions, a non-profit organization comprised of a network of leading universities and oceanographic research institutions and partners. Ocean Visions works to engage and focus resources from across this network for concerted action, catalyzing collaboration for the co-design, development, testing, and evaluation of solutions to the interlocking ocean-climate crisis.

David tells us about Ocean Vision's general work and thematic pillars. In particular, we discuss the importance of field trials in order for scaleup of mCDR approaches, as well as what is currently hindering scaling generally.  As we navigate these different thematic focus points, David presents Ocean Vision's amazing resources such as the Launchpad Program, CDR Roadmaps, and their curate CDR Community. 

Finally, David also sheds light on the important work they are doing on an international stage at the United Nations. 

We hope you enjoy this episode! 

Launchpad Program: https://oceanvisions.org/launchpad/

CDR Roadmaps: https://www2.oceanvisions.org/roadmaps/

CDR Community: https://community.oceanvisions.org/


Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Dr. Ken Buesseler on New Perspectives and Opportunities for Ocean Iron Fertilization10 Oct 202300:54:12

Dr. Ken Buesseler, senior scientist at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, joins us to discuss new perspectives and opportunities of ocean iron fertilization (OIF) as a carbon removal solution.

Ken explores with us how the journey of OIF has evolved as one of the first researched carbon removal solutions from about a decade ago to today. We discuss what OIF is, what the new effort  ExOIS, Exploring Ocean Iron Solutions, entails and why it is important for the development of OIF. We discuss the history of OIF as well as how new technology development could help answer some of those early risks, including progress on the front of monitoring, reporting and verification (MRV) of both carbon and environmental parameters. 

Learn more about ExOIS: https://oceaniron.org/

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

SEAO2_CDR: An Insight into the European Ocean CDR Space with Christopher Pearce, Patricia Grasse and Christine Merk26 Sep 202300:46:55

Today's episode features three representatives of the SEAO2-CDR project, a European effort to determine strategies for the evaluation and assessment of ocean based carbon dioxide removal. The project's aims range from a strongly interdisciplinary background and focus not only on scientific, but also economic, legal, political, social and ethical  aspects.

We are joined by 

  • the project’s Scientific and Technical Lead, Dr. Christopher Pearce from the National Oceanography Center in the UK.
  • Dr Christine Merk of the Kiel Institute for the World Economy, who co-leads WP4 Understanding public and stakeholder perceptions. 
  • Dr Patricia Grasse, University of Leipzig and GEOMAR Helmholtz Centre for Ocean Research, who leads WP7 Integrated assessment of ocean-based CDR deployment. 

The project is funded through the European Union’s Horizon Europe research and innovation programme under grant agreement No. 101081362. 

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Exploring the OAE Best Practice Guide with Jean-Pierre Gattuso and Andreas Oschlies12 Sep 202301:17:43

This episode's guests are Jean-Pierre Gattuso, CNRS research professor at Sorbonne University and Institute on Sustainable Development and International Relations, France, and Chair for Ocean Acidification and other ocean changes – Impacts and Solutions at Prince Albert II of Monaco Foundation; and Andreas Oschlies, professor and head of the biogeochemical modeling research unit at GEOMAR Helmholtz Centre for Ocean Research in Kiel, Germany.

Together they have led a crossdisciplinary, international research effort to produce a Best Practice Guide for Ocean Alkalinity Enhancement. The currently published pre-print of the guide consists of 13 chapters, written by 50+ scientific co-authors and covering all the relevant approaches available for ocean alkalinity enhancement (OAE) as a Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR) approach. The chapters’ topics range from covering current knowledge of the individual approaches and scientific uncertainties as well as recommendations for responsible research and innovation, public engagement, data reporting and sharing, and monitoring, reporting and verification (MRV).

Read each individual chapter and provide comments on the OAE Best Practice Guide website. 


Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Rose Sharifian of SeaO2 on Electrochemical Ocean Carbon Capture and the European Marine CDR Community29 Aug 202300:40:13

Rose Sharifian, CTO of the Dutch startup SeaO2, joins Plan Sea to talk about their electrochemical ocean carbon capture approach. 

Rose, Anna and Wil discuss SeaO2's technical roadmap, electrochemical membrane technology as well as challenges and opportunities they are facing in the European CDR market. Rose also shares how SeaO2 fits into the global picture of marine CDR startups and why she believes they are amongst the furthest in their development. 

Learn more about SeaO2 on https://www.seao2.nl/.

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Isometric’s Sophie Gill, Jing He, and Jennifer Yin on Marine Carbon Removal Certification19 Sep 202401:14:32

Plan Sea dives into the world of carbon removal certification, joined by experts Sophie Gill, Jing He, and Jennifer Yin from Isometric — a carbon credit certification platform and registry focused on high-quality carbon removal.

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

The U.S. Department of Energy’s Rory Jacobson on the evolving landscape of mCDR03 Oct 202400:49:24

Hosts Anna Madlener and Wil Burns discuss the evolving landscape of marine carbon dioxide removal (mCDR) with Rory Jacobson, Acting Division Director for Carbon Dioxide Removal at the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE).


Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Alex Gagnon on Banyu Carbon’s novel Direct Ocean Removal approach18 Oct 202401:13:50

In this edition of Plan Sea, hosts Anna Madlener and Wil Burns discuss a novel sunlight-driven approach to marine carbon dioxide removal (mCDR) with Alex Gagnon, co-founder and CEO of Banyu Carbon, a direct ocean removal startup based in Seattle, WA.

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Grace Andrews on Hourglass Climate’s Approach to Monitoring Ocean Alkalinity Enhancement31 Oct 202400:56:05

In today's episode, hosts Anna Madlener and Wil Burns are joined by Grace Andrews from Hourglass Climate. They discuss Hourglass' work on environmental monitoring and carbon removal quantification of Ocean Alkalinity Enhancement (OAE)  trials as a research non-profit.

To view the Ocean Visions webinar referenced on the podcast, click here: LINK.

Acronyms:

  • MRV (1:42) 
  • mCDR (3:28)
  • USGS (18:51)
  • EPA (19:32)
  • NOAA (20:51)
  • LCA (23:09)
  • pCO2 (25:02)

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Planetary Technologies’ Mike Kelland and Dr. Will Burt update on the company’s growth14 Nov 202400:50:31

In this edition of Plan Sea, hosts Anna Madlener and Wil Burns are joined by returning guest Mike Kelland, CEO and co-founder of Planetary Technologies, as well as Dr. Will Burt, Planetary’s Chief Ocean Scientist. Planetary is an ocean alkalinity enhancement (OAE) startup based in Halifax, Canada.

Link to Planetary's webinar on recent trial results here.

Listen to our first episode with Mike Kelland here.

ACRONYMS / CONCEPTS:

  • NOAA (19:39): National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Association
  • MRV (32:39): Monitoring, Reporting and Verification
  • ROMS (34:35): Regional Ocean Modeling System
  • EPA (53:06): Environmental Protection Agency
  • London Convention and Protocol (53:41)

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Captura’s CEO Steve Oldham discusses Direct Ocean Capture technology05 Dec 202400:58:02

In this edition of Plan Sea, hosts Anna Madlener and Wil Burns are joined by Captura CEO Steve Oldham to discuss Direct Ocean Capture technology. Captura is a Pasadena, CA-based company that is exploring the use of renewable energy to remove carbon from the ocean as a low-cost, large-scale climate solution.

Learn more about Captura’s DOC approach and propriety technology on their website here

Listen to our previous episode with Banyu Carbon’s Co-Founder & CEO Alex Gagnonon here.

Acronyms used throughout the episode:

  • DAC - Direct Air Capture (6:38)
  • RD&D - Research, Development, and Demonstration (21:21)
  • KPIs - Key Performance Indicators (22:17)
  • MRV - Monitoring, Reporting, and Verification (35:34)

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Dr. Jaime Palter and Dr. Dariia Atamanchuk Share Insights from Cutting-Edge OAE Field Research19 Dec 202401:00:58

This new episode features two OAE researchers and their insights from conducting field research as well as a special request to you, our listeners!

In this edition of Plan Sea, hosts Anna Madlener and Wil Burns are joined by two leading ocean alkalinity enhancement (OAE) researchers: Dr. Jaimie Palter from the University of Rhode Island’s School of Oceanography and Dr. Dariia Atamanchuk from Dalhousie University’s Department of Oceanography. Palter and Atamanchuk both lead field research sites studying OAE and are part of Carbon to Sea’s Field Research Steering Committee. 

Palter and Atamanchuk discuss their work leading field research sites studying OAE in coastal lagoon and ocean harbor settings, respectively, and share initial findings. The Plan Sea hosts and this episode’s guests underscore the importance of field research guiding the recommendation for scientifically robust, yet affordable and actionable monitoring, reporting, and verification (MRV) processes, and encourage greater collaboration between projects and across the sector.

Also: we would like to hear from you, our listeners, before our next episode! Let us know what 2024 milestone we should be celebrating or what you hope to see in 2025 by leaving us a voice message here that may be used in our next episode!

Acronyms used throughout the episode: 

  • NOAA NOPP –  National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s National Oceanographic Partnership Program (1:47) 
  • AGU - American Geophysical Union (2:00)
  • MRV - Monitoring, Reporting, and Verification (13:25)
  • pCO2 - Partial pressure of carbon dioxide (34:58)
  • EPA - Environmental Protection Agency (56:27)

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

CALLOUT: We want to hear from you! 10 Jan 202500:00:53

Hey listeners, we want to hear from you!

What 2024 milestone in the world of carbon removal should we be celebrating?

And what do you hope to see in the marine CDR field in 2025?

Leave us a quick voice message at www.speakpipe.com/planseapodcast

It only takes a few seconds, and you could be featured in our next episode. 

Thanks, and happy new year! 

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Submarine Scientific and Cascade Climate on Enhancing Carbon Removal Research Efficiency through Data Standardization and Sharing27 Feb 202500:50:25

In this episode of Plan Sea, hosts Anna Madlener and Wil Burns are joined by several guests to discuss new initiatives to improve data management and transparency in the carbon dioxide removal (CDR) industry. Jacki Long is an ocean scientist and co-founder of Submarine Scientific, a scientific consulting company focused on ocean modeling, expert verification support, and system wide strategy development for ocean-based carbon dioxide removal (oCDR). Jacki joins the Plan Sea hosts to discuss Submarine’s work pioneering a new initiative to standardize emerging data from ocean alkalinity enhancement (OAE) field trials. In collaboration with Carbon to Sea and the National Ocean Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), Submarine’s data protocol is undergoing an open comment period through March 7th, allowing researchers, partners, and community members to submit feedback. 

Brad Rochlin and Tannis Thorlakson join to discuss their work at Cascade Climate, a philanthropically-backed nonprofit working to accelerate natural climate interventions such as enhanced rock weathering (ERW). Brad and Tannis share insights from Cascade’s development of a data quarry method that could fill an important gap in existing carbon data quantification methods — and ultimately unlock greater scientific understanding of ERW.

During the episode, the guests and hosts consider how these data standardization and sharing efforts — across the OAE and ERW fields — are laying the foundation for enhanced research efficiency and increasing public trust in CDR methods as potentially viable solutions to slow the impacts of climate change. The ongoing work from Submarine Scientific and Cascade Climate aim to help researchers share learnings in real time, improve collaboration, and support data transparency. 

ACRONYMS / CONCEPTS:

  • CDR - carbon dioxide removal
  • ERW - enhanced rock weathering
  • OAE - ocean alkalinity enhancement
  • IP - intellectual property (29:38) 
  • NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (38:28)
  • CDRXIV (pronounced “see-dee archive”) (38:46)
  • Hourglass (Listen to a previous episode here) (38:53)
  • R&D - research & development (43:43)


Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

How current policies affect ocean-based carbon removal research and innovation in Canada13 Mar 202500:53:36

In this edition of Plan Sea, hosts Anna Madlener and Wil Burns are joined by Drs. Sara Seck and Neil Craik to discuss the current governance and public funding landscape for ocean-based carbon dioxide removal (oCDR) research and innovation in Canada. They focus particularly on jurisdictional challenges in Nova Scotia, related to an increase in oCDR R&D in the province over recent years, and discuss broadly how to strengthen future policymaker and public engagement.

Sara Seck is a Professor of Law at Dalhousie University’s Schulich School of Law, serving as the Yogis and Keddy Chair in Human Rights Law and the Director of the Marine & Environmental Law Institute. Dr. Seck sheds light on the complex and overlapping jurisdiction of land and ocean rights in Canada. She shares insights for oCDR stakeholders seeking to navigate this landscape to address permitting and other governance issues in coordination with the federal Canadian government, provincial governments, and First Nations leadership. 

Neil Craik is a Professor at the University of Waterloo, with appointments to the Basillie School of International Affairs (BSIA) and the School of Environment, Enterprise, and Development. He is also a Senior Fellow at the Centre for International Governance Innovation and Co-Lead of the Environment and Resources Research Cluster at the BSIA. Dr. Craik discusses legislation and public funding opportunities that can help support oCDR initiatives in Canada. He also explains current procurement strategies for carbon credits across both the public and private sectors, and how oCDR can work towards compliance to access this market in the future. 

During the episode, the Plan Sea guests and hosts consider the implications of good governance and policy on advancing the development and funding of oCDR initiatives. The oCDR field is reaching a pivotal moment, with many research projects now moving towards real-world field trials that will answer key scientific questions but also raise new challenges for navigating existing and emerging legislation. Doubling-down on public engagement and unlocking new funding opportunities will be increasingly important for advancing oCDR activities in Canada and elsewhere.

ACRONYMS / CONCEPTS:

  • CDR: Carbon Dioxide Removal 
  • mCDR: Marine Carbon Dioxide Removal 
  • MRV: Measurement, Reporting, and Verification 
  • BBNJ Agreement: Agreement on Marine Biodiversity of Areas beyond National Jurisdiction
  • TCA: Transforming Climate Action Research Program


Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Insights from the 2025 Ocean Visions Summit, Part Two17 Apr 202500:53:34

This episode of Plan Sea was recorded live at the Ocean Visions Biennial Summit 2025, and features conversations with experts from Ocean Visions, UArctic, and WHOI to discuss their work in the ocean-climate nexus. Host Anna Madlener is joined again by special co-host, Danny Gawlowski, Carbon to Sea’s Senior Manager of Communications and Policy. Listen to Part One of Plan Sea’s coverage of the Ocean Vision Biennial here.

Guests on this episode include: 

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Insights from the 2025 Ocean Visions Summit, Part One10 Apr 202501:06:53

This episode of Plan Sea was recorded live at the Ocean Visions Biennial Summit 2025, and features conversation with Ocean Visions CEO Brad Ack and other attendees to discuss their work in ocean-based carbon dioxide removal (oCDR). Host Anna Madlener is joined by a special co-host, Danny Gawlowski, Carbon to Sea’s Senior Manager of Communications and Policy.

Guests on this episode include: 

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Special Episode by Plan Sea and The Carbon Curve: Insights from the Carbon to Sea 2025 Annual Convening with Dr. Lennart Bach05 Jun 202500:34:08

In this edition of Plan Sea, host Anna Madlener is joined by Na’im Merchant, host of The Carbon Curve podcast and Executive Director of Carbon Removal Canada, for a special co-hosted episode of the two podcasts. Recorded live at the Carbon to Sea 2025 Annual Convening, Anna and Na’im speak with Lennart Bach, Associate Professor and ocean alkalinity enhancement (OAE) scientist at the University of Tasmania, to share insights and key takeaways from this year’s convening.


Last month, Carbon to Sea hosted its third Annual Convening in Washington, D.C., bringing together scientists, entrepreneurs, and policymakers to share recent progress and discuss a path forward for OAE. Bach, who previously spoke with Plan Sea on his work in ocean iron fertilization, was a speaker on this year’s “Scientific Research Progress and Updates” panel. Focused on the environmental impacts of OAE, Bach’s research aims to learn more about how OAE approaches may impact the marine ecosystem.


Building on conversations from the convening, Bach joins Anna and Na’im to share his optimism about the future of OAE, while also recognizing the potential challenges posed by a dip in the “hype cycle” that emerging scientific fields often face. However, Bach said he feels confident in progress that’s already been made and noted the importance of building on preliminary findings about OAE’s potential to conduct more targeted research. 


Na’im similarly addresses this challenging moment for the climate industry writ large, as it faces reduced funding and policy support in many areas, with new geopolitical headwinds. Drawing on his experience working across the carbon removal space, Na’im offers advice for how the OAE field can address this moment by prioritizing focused research, establishing an updated roadmap, and exploring new funding pathways. 


Looking ahead, both Na’im and Bach highlight the importance of aligning on MRV approaches, cross-sector partnerships, increased community and policymaker engagement, and exploring new funding pathways in order to advance OAE research. As this year’s convening exemplified, the immediate opportunities in OAE research have largely been addressed; what lies ahead is more complex and demands significantly greater coordination.

Listen to our previous episode with Lennart Bach here.


ACRONYMS / CONCEPTS: 

  • OAE (2:28)
  • MRV (18:06)
  • DAC (23:37)
  • CRCF (29:59)
  • ETS (29:59)
  • ERW (36:16)


Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

A Deep Dive on Principles for Responsible Ocean Carbon Removal Development & Governance17 Jul 202500:51:01

In this edition of Plan Sea, co-host Anna Madlener sits down with co-host (and one of this week’s guests) Wil Burns, Dr. Terre Satterfield from the University of British Columbia, and Dr. Chris Pearce from the UK’s National Oceanography Center. Burns, Satterfield, and Pearce are some of the lead authors on a new  report launched at the 2025 UN Ocean Conference, “Principles for Responsible and Effective Marine CDR Development and Governance.”

Commissioned by the High-Level Panel for a Sustainable Ocean Economy, the report outlines how to responsibly evaluate and potentially scale ocean-based carbon dioxide removal (oCDR) — also referred to as marine CDR — along three pillars: scientific and technological readiness, governance, and national implementation. The framework reflects months of collaborative research to help address how oCDR can begin to move from lab trials to real-world deployment — while maintaining high standards of scientific rigor, environmental protection, and public trust. Read the full report HERE.

Dr. Terre Satterfield, Professor of Culture, Risk and the Environment at the University of British Columbia, joins Wil and Anna to discuss the report’s recommendations for national strategies that can accelerate oCDR research and public engagement. She spoke about the importance of streamlining permitting processes for oCDR field trials, earmarking funding for lab networks for holistic oCDR evaluation, and investing in public engagement hubs to help co-design research efforts. 

Dr. Christopher Pearce, drawing from his research on oCDR science at the UK’s National Oceanography Center, discusses how the report offers six categories to assess scientific and technological readiness for various oCDR approaches. This aims to help policymakers better understand when and why, for example, an approach may be quite well-understood by scientists in the lab, but the environmental impacts associated with larger projects are less understood and require field trials for further evaluation. He also explains how tools like pre-permitted testbed sites and national lab networks can promote data sharing and create the infrastructure needed for safe and scalable mCDR projects. 

Looking ahead, Wil, Terre, and Chris discuss how international frameworks like BBNJ (Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction) can ensure accountability for future mCDR governance, and reflect on the major challenges facing the field—from limited public awareness and funding to the need for strong public oversight as the technology scales. The report offers important recommendations, such as creating pre-permitted testbed sites and national lab networks that can promote research efficiency and strong standards as oCDR continues to be evaluated, regulated, and tested. 

To learn more about the report’s findings, listen to the full episode HERE, subscribe with your favorite podcast service, or find the entire series here

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

ACRONYMS / CONCEPTS:

  • MRV (1:26); Monitoring, Reporting, and Verification
  • TRL (6:58); Technology Readiness Level
  • SRL (6:44); Scientific Readiness Level
  • BBNJ (38:03); Agreement on Biodiversity of Areas Beyond National Jurisdiction, also known a

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

Community Engagement and Trial Monitoring with Ebb Carbon’s Kyla Westphal and Mallory Ringham26 Jun 202500:48:05

In this edition of Plan Sea, hosts Anna Madlener and Wil Burns sit down with Kyla Westphal and Mallory Ringham from Ebb Carbon to discuss Project Macoma — the company’s pilot ocean alkalinity enhancement (OAE) study being conducted in Port Angeles, Washington this summer. A first-of-its-kind endeavor, Project Macoma aims to remove up to 1,000 tonnes of  CO2 from the atmosphere using Ebb Carbon’s electrochemical OAE technology. Kyla and Mallory join to share more about their journey engaging the local community on this proposed research, securing a permit from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), and establishing Monitoring, Reporting, and Verification (MRV) standards as this work gets underway. 


Project Macoma continues the work of the late Dr. Matthew Eisaman, Co-Founder of Ebb Carbon and a pivotal figure in the ocean-based carbon dioxide removal (oCDR) field. Matt dedicated his life to fostering a clear understanding of the scientific path forward for potential oCDR solutions, while also creating an inclusive and environmentally-responsible sector. For more background into Ebb Carbon and a deep dive into their approach, listen to our episode with Matt HERE


Kyla Westphal, Vice President of External Affairs at Ebb Carbon, joins Anna and Will to discuss her role developing safe and responsible deployment of OAE. Building on her experience working in what she calls “the intersection between technology and humanity,” Kyla oversees both the stakeholder engagement and ecological safety aspects of Ebb Carbon’s work. She shares how Project Macoma is building on years of foundational environmental research and engagement with Washington state regulators, community groups, and tribal governments to earn local buy-in and support. 


Mallory Ringham, Lead Oceanographer and Head of MRV, then discusses how Ebb Carbon secured the first-ever National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System (NPDES) approval for oCDR under the Clean Water Act. She shares how the permit requires a slow, careful, and continuously monitored operation to ensure water quality standards are met within prescribed mixing zones. Mallory also discusses how Ebb’s foundational research created a strong understanding of the seasonal and tidal variability in the region, allowing for more accurate monitoring and analysis of the project. This summer, Mallory will continue to oversee the monitoring process to ensure the project is operating safely, responsibly, and effectively.


Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.


ACRONYMS / CONCEPTS:

  • MRV (1:05); Monitoring, Reporting and Verification
  • NPDES (14:56); National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System
  • MCDR; Marine Carbon Dioxide Removal  (21:58)

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

WHOI’s Adam Subhas and Jennie Rheuban on the LOC-NESS OAE Field Trial23 Oct 202500:59:29

In this edition of Plan Sea, hosts Anna Madlener and Wil Burns kick off season three of the podcast with Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI) researchers Dr. Adam Subhas and Jennie Rheuban to discuss the LOC-NESS project — a small-scale, open-ocean research trial on ocean alkalinity enhancement (OAE). The project’s co-principal investigators join Anna and Wil to recount the process of receiving a first-of-its-kind permit from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the role of local community engagement, and the project’s early findings. 

A few weeks ago, WHOI completed its highly controlled research trial in the Gulf of Maine to study the environmental safety and efficacy of OAE as a carbon dioxide removal technique. Approved by the EPA after a two-year, rigorous permitting process, the LOC-NESS project introduced small amounts of purified sodium hydroxide – a compound often used to balance the pH of drinking water – to the ocean surface waters, along with a harmless red dye to help track it. This field study came after years of preparation and development, including extensive laboratory experiments, ocean modeling, and a growing body of scientific literature. 

Dr. Adam Subhas is an Associate Scientist at WHOI and the project lead for LOC-NESS. Adam credits the project’s success so far to the comprehensive preparation and collaboration between WHOI scientists and EPA staff — on everything from ocean modeling and biogeochemical impact evaluation, to engaging communities and local industries on what to expect from the research. He also talks about how their pursuit of the first-ever ocean carbon dioxide removal (oCDR) permit under the Marine Protection, Research, and Sanctuaries Act of 1972, helped the LOC-NESS team refine their procedures, improve their approach, and make the project more responsive to feedback from their community.

Jennie Rheuban is a WHOI Research Specialist and serves as a co-principal investigator for LOC-NESS. Jennie points to community engagement as a critical component of LOC-NESS’s development, recounting the project’s years-long effort to engage with questions from a range of stakeholders, including the fishing community. By emphasizing its position as an independent scientific research project without commercial ambitions, WHOI was able to cultivate credibility and gather important community inputs that shaped the scope and methodologies of the research. For example, the team spent additional time researching types of fish larvae in potential field trial regions to bring that information back to the local fisherman.

Looking ahead, LOC-NESS researchers will continue to analyze data gathered during this summer’s trial to understand the impacts and efficacy of the alkalinity dispersal. 

More information about LOC-NESS’s findings will be shared at the Ocean Sciences Meeting in February 2026.

Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal. 


Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

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