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Steve Giordano left a senior captain seat at Allegiant to build Nomadic Aviation Group, one of the most trusted ferry operations in the business. He breaks down how a ferry flight actually gets quoted and flown — lessors, permits, DARs, tankering fuel at $18 a gallon — what trips really cost, the margins behind them, and what he looks for when contracting pilots. Plus the Alice Springs COVID runs, Equatorial Africa thunderstorms, and the operational failure in Korea he still calls his worst.

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Nik Fialka has watched pilots lose the job before they ever sat down.

The Spitfire Elite coach and Ready 4 Pushback host joins us to walk through his ten rules for the airline interview — five things to do, five things that'll sink you.

The first one starts tonight, not the week your application gets picked up. Nik's habit: after shutdown, open your notes app and write down one thing that happened on that flight. The disagreement with your instructor. The divert. The passenger you went out of your way for. Do it for a year and you'll never be the candidate staring blankly when someone asks for a conflict story.

We get into paperwork nobody wants to think about until they need it, and why a gap you find today can take months to fix. Logbooks, too — Nik's line is that your logbook is your dissertation: you don't just present it, you defend it. Cover page, totals that add up, no white-out, addendums for the errors you find. As one airline logbook reviewer told him, don't make me pull out a calculator.

Then the other half. Why hiding or shading your data ends the interview faster than you'd believe. Why adding a previously undisclosed failure after you've been invited is a very different conversation than adding a new type rating. The pilot whose expunged record still got him fired for failure to disclose. And the one Nik is best known for — the candidate in a conference room full of finalists who dropped an F-bomb at the wrong moment and never made it to the logbook review.

The bigger point underneath all of it: from the second you leave your house, you're being interviewed. Be good to the Uber driver, the gate agent, the hotel desk. Jobs get won and lost when you least expect it.

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In 1999, a handful of people gathered at a dusty Namibian airfield to meet two men flying weight-shift microlights around the world. One of them was Mike Blyth. Watching from the crowd was a boy who had never left the country, whose family couldn't afford much flying, and who had no real concept of where these men had come from — only that whatever they were doing, he wanted to do it too.

Twenty-five years later, JP Schulze has flown around the world himself, built the first Sling High Wing off the line — designed by the same Mike Blyth — and become one of the most distinctive filmmakers in aviation.

This one took a while to make happen. We finally met at Oshkosh this year, and JP is candid about being a naturally shy person who ended up with a career in front of a camera.

He grew up in Namibia with no art classes and no creative outlets, thinking in German and Afrikaans, teaching himself English from the Discovery Channel at eight years old. He was taking the controls of his dad's microlight at ten. He funded his first licence by free-diving for crayfish, selling snake venom, and restringing tennis rackets.

The around-the-world trip nearly didn't happen twice. Sponsors walked after a Cirrus ditched near Hawaii and the CAPS pull ran on every news channel — nobody wanted their logo on a small plane over an ocean. So JP and Louis Cole self-funded it, and JP is honest about what that cost: the fourteen-hour legs, the multi-hour shouting match somewhere between Fiji and Kiribati, and the weight of being responsible for a non-pilot's life for the first time.

In this episode:

• Meeting Mike Blyth in 1999 — and building his airplane twenty years later
• Growing up flying "sketchy" weight-shift trikes over the African bush
• Why Southern Africa has a GA scene almost nobody expects
• Moving to New Zealand at seventeen and rebuilding from scratch in a third language
• Meeting Louis Cole on a sand dune and having his life change in a day
• Signing with Discovery, then watching the money disappear
• What flying around the world actually took — and why he'd do it again
• Insisting on being the first to build the Sling High Wing, then helping write the manual
• Why he refuses to post weekly, and what that has cost him
• The sunglasses he built because a $350 pair costs $10 to make
• Why print still matters, and what we both think is at stake

We also recorded a second conversation about the around-the-world flight itself — that one is exclusive to the magazine, with the audio released free a year after publication.

Happy Flying,
Justin

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Mark Woglom has bought and sold roughly a dozen airplanes in twenty-five years — a new Cessna 182 he learned to fly in, a Baron he never got comfortable in, a pressurized 414, a Cheyenne II XL, four separate Cirrus SR22s, a Vision Jet, a TBM 960, a Citation M2, and the CJ3+ he flies today. Six weeks ago he added an Icon A5, because you can't go sightseeing in a jet.

Along the way he built a framework for making the decision the rest of us agonize over.

In this episode we cover:

• The three F's — finances, features, and function — and why mission is the one most buyers skip
• The "fourth F": buying the wrong airplane, and how to avoid it
• Why he never trusts manufacturer range claims, broker enthusiasm, or forum consensus
• His normalized fuel reserve method for comparing aircraft honestly, apples to apples
• Real rules of thumb for insurance, capital cost, maintenance, and the ancillary costs that ambush new owners
• Why he took a five-year break from flying while still owning an airplane
• What changed when he decided to earn a type rating in his mid-fifties
• Why his wife's headset ended a turboprop purchase
• Never get plane poor — and why a fuel stop isn't the end of the world

Whether you're saving toward your first 172 or wondering whether the step up is worth it, this one's a masterclass in buying with your head instead of your heart.

Happy Flying,
Justin

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Kyle Skylaski had never been on an airplane — not even as a passenger — until his senior year of high school. A local orchardist flew him across Washington in a Cessna 172 so he could make a state playoff baseball game. He got there as the game started, changed in the car, and hit a three-run homer off a future big leaguer to win it.

That flight sent him to the Air Force Academy and into 23 years in the cockpit: F-15s at Holloman, F-16s as an aggressor during the fall of the Soviet Union, an exchange tour with the Navy in the F/A-18, and later a modified 727 as a test pilot for Raytheon.

In episode 366 we get into what sports actually teaches you about flying, why leadership is service and nothing else, the three C's every team needs, what it feels like at Mach 2 versus 300 feet and nine miles a minute, losing seven friends early in his career and what it changed about how he takes risk, and where electric and hybrid training aircraft might actually make sense.

Kyle's book, The Sky Less Traveled: The Maverick Life of Leadership, Resilience, and the Pursuit of Purpose, is on Amazon now, with the audiobook coming this fall.

In this episode: first flight over the Cascades • Air Force Academy football and gliders • pilot training at Laughlin, where half the class washed out • F-15 vs F-16 vs F/A-18 • the aggressor years • flying the 727 as a test pilot • the squadron bar, call signs, and crud • three things he'd tell anyone starting over

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Pete Stavridis was nine years old, watching the Challenger explode on live TV, when he decided he was going to fly airplanes. No pilots in the family. No money for it. So he enlisted in the Navy out of high school in 1995 — not the optimal path to fighters — flew P-3 Orions as an enlisted aircrewman on counter-drug ops over Panama and Colombia, and worked his way into a commission. He selected #1 out of T-34s, got the Super Hornet, and flew combat over Iraq and Afghanistan.

Now he's an Airbus first officer (by design), an FAA examiner with roughly 700 checkrides behind him, an aircraft management guy specializing in the Piaggio, and he runs upset recovery training in the L-39. He also raced at Reno in the gold jet class at 500 mph, four to six feet off another airplane — until he watched his friend and competitor Aaron Hoag G-LOC and go into the ground in front of him in 2022.

We get into:

• Why enlisting first was a risk he'd take again
• What a Navy flight surgeon prescribed when Pete was struggling in T-45s (hint: Halo)
• Being shot off a carrier deck, and why nothing else compares
• Fighter pilot ego vs. actual humility — and why humility can't read as weakness
• What air racing really takes: micro-knots, wake vortices, and why pole position changes everything
• Losing Aaron, "stem power," and how he got the jet on the ground
• Why the DPE shortage isn't a DPE problem, it's an FAA problem
• What he can read about an applicant in the first two minutes
• Honesty, knowledge, determination — his three traits of a good captain, FO, or wingman
• Exposing your kids to aviation without pushing it

"When we get in an airplane, we're in a survival situation. We're not supposed to be there."

Happy Flying,

Justin

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Big thanks to Textron Aviation for sponsoring this week's episode of Pilot to Pilot! This week I'm joined by Jason Rhode as we talk bout his unconventional journey in aviation - from where he started to what ultimately led up to step up into larger aircraft.

Don't miss this opportunity to hear how the right aircraft can help you take the next step in your aviation journey!

What happens when a public company CEO gets tired of the airlines and decides to fly himself? Jason Rhode, former CEO of Cirrus Logic, joins Justin to share one of the most unique aviation journeys we've featured — one that started not with a childhood dream of flying, but with a sweaty preflight in 110-degree Austin heat and a finance guy's ForeFlight demo.

In this Textron Aviation-sponsored episode, Jason walks through every aircraft in his progression — DA40, DA62, Kodiak, TBM, and finally the Citation CJ3+ — and why Textron Aviation was the throughline that made each transition smoother than the last. He breaks down what the pro ownership program actually looks like from the inside, how Textron connected him with the right mentor pilots and Flight Safety simulator training, and why the M2-to-jet transition is far less intimidating than the insurance market wants you to believe.

In this episode:

• Why owning a plane extended Jason's career as a CEO by four to five years
• How Textron's pro ownership program handles maintenance tracking, mentor pilots, and service center coordination
• The CJ3+ acquisition story: buying a plane that had been in a ditch, flying it to 45,000 feet before the seller had
• Finding the right insurance underwriter for jet transitions (and why your broker matters more than you think)
• Pilot and Paws missions, concert chasing in the Citation, and the lifestyle that makes it all worth it

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Some people are drawn to the sky. Others are forged there.

Rob “Scratch” Mitchell grew up surrounded by aviation legend — his grandfather flew Spitfires over occupied Europe, his father patrolled Cold War skies in a Royal Canadian Air Force jet. By the time Scratch sat down to choose his own path, there was never really a question. He wanted to fly fighters. He wanted to be the best. And through relentless focus, iron discipline, and a willingness to outwork everyone around him, that’s exactly what he became.

In this episode of the Pilot to Pilot Podcast, Scratch takes us from the crucible of Canadian military pilot training — where attrition rates hovered near 50% — through the unforgiving world of F-18 tactical flying, into the bright lights of the Canadian Forces Snowbirds, where he eventually led the team as commanding officer. Along the way, he opens up about the fatal accident that occurred on his watch during his very first airshow weekend as team lead, and what it taught him about leadership, humanity, and what it truly means to hold a team together when the world falls apart.

What you’ll hear in this episode:

• How Scratch finished number one in his pilot training class to guarantee a fighter slot — and why second place wasn’t an option
• The story behind his callsign, involving a French tanker, the wrong basket technique, and a very expensive canopy
• What 95 airshows in a single season does to a team — and to a marriage
• The moment during the Snowbirds’ first airshow of the season when his wingman was lost, and how Scratch led nine pilots back to earth when the world had just gone silent
• Why ego has no place in the debrief room — even when you’re debriefing your commanding officer
• The civilian world’s hardest lesson for a fighter pilot: sometimes skill and effort aren’t enough, and luck is a variable you cannot control
• His pivot from the cockpit to the camera — and why aviation storytelling was always the through line

Whether you fly airliners, light aircraft, or simply love the world above the clouds, this is an episode about what it means to commit completely — to a mission, to a team, and to yourself.

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His uncle flew F-18s in the Marines before becoming a UPS MD-11 captain. His dad plays organ. His twin sister teaches choir in Texas. And David spent the better part of a decade as a professional tuba player before a global pandemic, a family hotel, and one YouTube rabbit hole set him on an entirely different flight path. In this episode, David traces every step of a career change that most people would have talked themselves out of — the 141 versus 61 debate, the flight school that felt like family, the stage check that became his most memorable moment as a CFI, and the three-to-five-minute orchestra audition that taught him everything he needed to know about showing up prepared. His advice is simple, honest, and hard-won: don't chase the end goal. Just be the best version of wherever you are right now.

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Sponsors — please support the people who support the show: • Avemco Insurance — Save 5% as a Pilot to Pilot listener. Call (888) 635-4297 or visit avemco.com/4297-owner (owners) or avemco.com/4297-non-owner (non-owners) • Textron Aviation — Built for lifelong aviators. Plan your next chapter at txtav.com/stepup • Garmin — Plan, file, fly, log with the Garmin Pilot app • Allworth Airline Advisors — Register for their latest webinar at allworthfinancial.com/justin • Learn the Finer Points — Save 10% off your first year at learnthefinerpoints.com/justin. https://allworthfinancial.com/airlines/lp/runway-for-retirement-webinar?utm_campaign=airlines+-+more+runway+for+retirement?lmls=Partner+Channel&lmld=Pilot+to+Pilot&ad_version=Social

Canadian pilot Mike Andrews has never taken the direct route — and that's exactly what makes his story worth hearing. Growing up in Southern Ontario, Mike got his start through Canada's Air Cadet program, earning a glider license at 16 and a private pilot license at 17 before nearly going the Canadian Armed Forces fighter pilot route. A heart murmur medical delay, a backpacking trip to New Zealand, and a hard reset later, he found himself building a flight school from scratch on Vancouver Island with one airplane and a jacket that said "ask me about flying."

Now based on Vancouver Island in British Columbia, Mike is one of Canada's leading instructors on the Pipistrel Velis Electro — the country's first electric aircraft approved for primary flight training — and he's about to embark on a brand new chapter as a bird dog pilot doing aerial wildfire fighting in BC's rugged mountain terrain.

In this episode, Justin and Mike dig into the Canadian pilot training system, what it's actually like to fly and teach in an electric airplane, the unique aviation culture of the Pacific Northwest coast, and what draws a variety-hungry pilot to a career where low-level mountain flying meets public service. Plus — Mike shares what it was like to nearly make it into Canadian fighter pilot selection before a three-day paperwork deadline changed everything.

Topics Covered:

• Canada's Air Cadet program and glider scholarships
• Canadian vs. American pilot training and instructor rating systems
• Flying the Pipistrel Velis Electro — Canada's first electric flight trainer
• Electric aviation: where it works today and where it's headed
• Aerial wildfire fighting and the bird dog role
• Building a sub-base flight school on Vancouver Island from the ground up
• The TBM 960's "Home Safe" emergency automation features
• Why variety — not the airlines — has driven Mike's entire career

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Marci Veronie is the Senior Vice President of AVEMCO Insurance, and she's one of the most fascinating people in aviation — not because she's a pilot, but because she's spent nearly four decades watching what happens when things go wrong. Landings. Taxiing. Overconfident airline pilots in light sport aircraft. She's seen it all, and she's got the data to back it up.

In this episode, Marci opens up about her wildly unexpected path from a Pittsburgh girl chasing a paralegal certificate to becoming the first non-pilot sales underwriter at AVEMCO — and eventually SVP. She talks about the calls she dreads taking on Monday mornings, what separates a superior pilot from a scary one, and why 60% of pilots are leaving real money on the table every single year.

She also gets candid about being a woman in a male-dominated industry for decades, her work with Women in Aviation International, and what it actually takes to build a 39-year career at one company.

Whether you fly a J-3 Cub or a 737, this episode will change how you think about risk, training, and what it means to truly be a safe pilot.\

Happy Flying,
Justin

Spirit Airlines officially ceased operations on May 2 at 3am, and in this episode Justin sits down with Jim Higgins, Professor of Aviation at the University of North Dakota, to unpack what happened and what comes next.

They dig into the chain of events that brought one of the country's most recognizable low-cost carriers to a halt — from a business model under pressure, to two Chapter 11 reorganizations, to the spike in oil prices that finally pushed Spirit past the point of recovery. Jim breaks down why the federal bailout package fell apart, why no other airline stepped in to acquire Spirit despite multiple asks, and how $9 billion in debt made a merger virtually impossible.

The conversation also turns to the roughly 2,000 Spirit pilots now entering an already active hiring market. Justin and Jim talk through how the majors are likely to respond, what this means for regional pilots and pilots holding CJOs, and why Spirit aviators have a strong reputation among hiring departments across the industry. They also cover the resources available through ALPA, the importance of leaning on the aviation community, and the often-overlooked mental health side of losing a job you loved.

Whether you're a Spirit pilot, a regional pilot watching the hiring landscape shift, or simply someone trying to make sense of what just happened to a 34-year-old airline with an impeccable safety record, this episode offers context, perspective, and a reminder that the industry takes care of its own.

If you know a Spirit pilot, reach out. A letter of recommendation, a connection, or just a conversation can go a long way.

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State of the Industry!

Spirit's on the brink, Scott Kirby is publicly floating a United–American merger, and the entire airline industry feels like it's holding its breath. Welcome to silly season.

Jim Higgins, professor of aviation at the University of North Dakota and former MEC chair, returns to the Pilot to Pilot Podcast to break down everything happening across the majors right now — and what could happen next.

In this episode, Justin and Jim dig into:

• Where pilot hiring actually stands in 2026 (and the FAPA numbers that tell the real story) • What verbiage in earnings calls and press releases signals trouble before furloughs hit • Fuel prices, the Strait of Hormuz, and how a war on the other side of the world hits your paycheck • The Spirit situation and what bankruptcy vs. liquidation would actually mean • The United–JetBlue rumors — and whether "merging with American" was a smokescreen • Seniority list integration, ALPA merger protocols, and why Southwest hired an M&A law firm • What Delta, Alaska, and Southwest would HAVE to do if a United mega-merger goes through • The Allegiant–Sun Country deal nobody's talking about • Could Delta go international by buying foreign carriers outright?

Drop a comment with YOUR merger prediction. We'll be wrong together.

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This is one of the most raw, honest, and inspiring aviation stories you'll ever hear. Evan Davis didn't take a traditional path to becoming an Alaska pilot—he fought through addiction, FAA scrutiny, and personal demons to get there. His story proves that your past doesn't define your future, and that the aviation community has room for second chances when you're willing to do the hard work. Evan Davis was eight hours into his flight training when his AME asked the question that changed everything: have you ever struggled with alcohol? He told the truth — and the FAA grounded him before he ever soloed. More than a decade later, Evan is a PC-12 medevac captain based in Wasilla, Alaska, flying out of Kotzebue two weeks a month, north of the Arctic Circle. In this conversation, he walks Justin through the whole arc: getting honest on his medical application, a Valentine's Day slip two months into sobriety, the HIMS program, and the year of breathalyzers, AA meetings, and flight simulator hours that rebuilt his life. From there, it's the flying story pilots come here for — a 90-hour trip into the Frank Church, a Cessna 182 used to commute to work, a chance resume drop in Homer that turned into a job offer, and eventually Bettles, the Brooks Range, and medevac work on the western coast of Alaska. Evan talks honestly about the weather that moves differently above the Arctic Circle, why saying "no" is the most important skill in the cockpit, what four months of darkness does to you, and why the pilots who make it in Alaska are almost always the ones who can live with other humans in a village for two weeks at a stretch. A story about addiction, second chances, and what it actually takes to fly in one of the last wild places left.

Happy Flying, 

Justin

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What does it take to walk away from a two-decade law enforcement career — including 13 years on SWAT — and start over as a pilot? Josh Schirard did exactly that, and in this episode he breaks down every step of the journey.

Josh is now a corporate pilot flying Hawker 800s and Lear 60s, a professional skydiver with the REMAX Skydive team, and the author of the upcoming book Burn Your Boats. He's also one of the most thoughtful guests we've had on the show when it comes to the mindset side of aviation.

In this episode we talk about:

• How skydiving pulled him back into aviation after years away
• His ATP flight training experience — the good, the hard, and what he'd do differently
• How SWAT-level decision-making and crew resource management overlap more than you'd think
• Building flight time as a jump pilot and why he skipped the CFI route
• How he landed his first corporate gig through pure networking
• Whether the airlines are in his future — and why he keeps his options open
• His philosophy on personal minimums, comfort zones, and why you need to push the gap between the two

Whether you're thinking about a career change into aviation, grinding through your ratings, or already flying professionally and wondering what's next — this episode is for you.

Happy Flying, 
Justin

Most pilots dream of smooth 10,000-foot runways.

Tyler Flagg trained to land a 30,000-pound aircraft on a 25-foot dirt strip… in total darkness.

After 9/11 changed his life trajectory, Tyler went from zero aviation background to flying Special Operations missions around the globe. With minimal information and maximum responsibility, he deployed into multiple combat theaters — moving elite teams into places most people will never see on a map.

In this episode:

1. The unconventional path into Air Force Special Ops
2. What it feels like to deploy with barely 250 flight hours
3. Flying through Saharan fuel-risk zones and Pacific icing
4. The culture differences inside military aviation
5. Why humility matters more than ego in elite units
6. Building a company after walking away from a “dream job”

This one is raw, honest, and packed with perspective.

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He's the most-requested guest in Pilot to Pilot history — and the wait was worth it. Trent Palmer, recreational bush pilot and one of aviation's most recognized YouTube creators, finally sits down with Justin for a raw, unfiltered conversation about the highs and lows of a life built around flying and filmmaking.

Trent opens up about his journey from RC helicopters and drone cinematography in Hollywood to becoming a full-time content creator — including how FAA regulations ironically pushed him into getting his pilot's license in the first place. But this episode goes far deeper than flying cool places and making beautiful videos.

Trent shares the gut-wrenching details of his engine failure in the Nevada backcountry, what it actually feels like when the prop stops and you have 45 seconds to find a field, and why the flight home may have been scarier than the emergency itself. He talks candidly about watching a close friend crash — and somehow survive — and how each close call reshapes your relationship with risk.

Then there's the FAA battle that nearly broke him. Trent walks through both investigations, the $50,000 in legal fees, the four-year court fight that went all the way to the Ninth Circuit, the license suspension he wishes he'd just accepted, and the personal toll of having your character questioned publicly.

This one is honest, emotional, and packed with lessons — whether you're a pilot, a content creator, or just someone who loves a great story.

What you'll hear:

1. From drones on Hollywood sets to bush pilot YouTuber
2. Engine failure over remote Nevada — the full story
3. Watching a friend crash and survive a "unsurvivable" impact
4. Two FAA investigations, $50K in legal fees, and hard lessons learned
5. How YouTube became his full-time career (and why he almost walked away)
6. Advice for pilots who want to start creating content
7. What's next: floats, new adventures, and maybe finally starting that podcast

Ever wonder what it's like to fly slower than freeway traffic — on purpose? Chancy Arnold is a banner tow pilot flying a Super Cub up and down the San Diego beaches, and in this episode he breaks down everything about the job. From the dive-and-hook pickup technique to four-hour flights strapped into a tiny seat with no breaks, Chancy gives an honest look at one of aviation's most unique time-building gigs. We talk about what it's really like flying at 50 knots indicated (and 15 knots ground speed in a headwind), how he built connections on the FBO ramp that got him the job, the territory system between banner towing companies, and flying over Padres games, golf tournaments, and gender reveals. Chancy also shares why he skipped the CFI route, why IFR was actually his favorite phase of training, and how he's stacking hours toward the airlines. Plus — look for Chancy in Volume 2 of the Pilot to Pilot Magazine with a full spread on building your time through banner towing.

What does it take to run one of the world's largest aviation events? Gene Conrad, President and CEO of the Aerospace Center for Excellence and Sun 'n Fun Aerospace Expo, pulls back the curtain on Florida's premier aviation gathering. Growing up in Oshkosh as the son of an airport director, Gene counted aircraft at EAA AirVenture as a teenager to see who had more planes. Now, he's running Sun 'n Fun—a six-day event that costs $7 million to produce, attracts over 60,000 attendees, and requires coordination with everyone from the U.S. Navy Blue Angels to Amazon Air operations. In this episode, you'll discover: - The real costs of running a major aviation event ($700K just for tents!) - How Sun 'n Fun coordinates with Amazon's massive Lakeland hub - Why they're making major schedule changes for 2025 - The difference between running an airport vs. running an air show - Future expansion plans including new 40,000 sq ft air-conditioned exhibit buildings - What makes Gene happiest: closing the airport because there's no more parking space - Behind-the-scenes secrets like the Island, the Swamp, and Chick-fil-A coming to the event Gene also shares candid insights about working with 3,000+ volunteers, learning from his biggest mistakes (like the WiFi disaster), and why his ultimate measure of success isn't attendance or revenue—it's making sure everyone goes home safe. Whether you're planning to attend Sun 'n Fun, curious about aviation event management, or just love air shows, this episode delivers insider knowledge you won't find anywhere else.

In Episode 351, Justin sits down with Ariel Johnson (@whiskeyflies on Instagram), a North Carolina-based flight instructor who earned her Citation type rating at just 800 hours. At not even 21 years old, Arielle shares her accelerated journey from discovering aviation at Sun ’n Fun to teaching students and flying corporate jets—all while completing her aviation degree.

This conversation explores the realities of flight training, the power of networking in aviation, and what it takes to break into corporate flying. Ariel discusses her experience getting typed in a Citation, the differences between Part 91 and 135 operations, and her approach to building a career through genuine relationships and hard work. She also offers candid advice for aspiring pilots on making the most of every rating, avoiding common pitfalls, and maintaining passion throughout the journey.

Whether you’re a student pilot wondering about your path forward, a CFI building time, or someone curious about corporate aviation opportunities, this episode delivers practical insights from someone who’s living proof that age is just a number when you combine dedication with smart networking.

Topics covered:

∙ Transitioning from private pilot to corporate jet operations

∙ The value of mentorship and networking in aviation

∙ Part 91 vs Part 135 flying: what to expect

∙ Getting a jet type rating early in your career

∙ Building flight time efficiently as a CFI

∙ Social media’s role in aviation careers

∙ North Carolina flying destinations (Wilmington, Oak Island, and more)

Ever wondered what air traffic controllers actually see on their screens when you check in? Or why they sometimes seem frustrated with certain pilot behaviors? In this eye-opening conversation, Marcus Miller (aka Prop Hat Cat) from Houston Center pulls back the curtain on the world of ATC.

Marcus shares his unique journey from controlling virtual aircraft in his mom's bakery at age 14 to managing real traffic at one of the nation's busiest centers. We dive deep into:

What Controllers Actually See:

1. Breaking down the data block: what all those numbers and symbols mean
2. Why TRACON controllers don't know your destination
3. The technology behind the scope (and why it's from the 1960s)

Making Controllers' Lives Easier:

1. Why you should WAIT before checking in (it's not a race!)
2. The cross-coupling problem that causes frequency chaos
3. How CPDLC is changing everything

Demystifying Phone Numbers (Brasher Warnings):

1. What actually happens when you get "the number"
2. Why 90% of pilot deviations are learning opportunities, not punishments
3. Marcus reveals he's never had to give out a phone number

Controller Pet Peeves & Favorites:

1. The weather question epidemic
2. Pilots trying to "outsmart the system"
3. What makes a controller's day great (hint: your attitude matters)

The Future of ATC:

1. New technology coming to centers
2. Why consolidation might be on the horizon
3. How the Enhanced CTI program is changing controller training

Plus: Academy training secrets, the personality test you never knew existed, why Florida is the "wild west" of aviation, and the real reason controllers need your help with flight following.

Whether you're a student pilot, airline captain, or aviation enthusiast, this episode will transform how you communicate with ATC and understand the critical work happening on the other end of the frequency

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In this episode, I sit down with Luke, a flight instructor based in Utah who's currently at around 900 hours and grinding his way toward the airlines. Luke shares his experience going through ATP Flight Training in just 8.5 months, the reality of being a CFI without the guaranteed job he expected, and how social media helped him land his current position as chief instructor at a flight school in Provo.

We discuss the challenges of building time in today's aviation environment, the pros and cons of the ATP route, and what it's really like to be in the trenches as a CFI. Luke opens up about his ultimate goal of flying for Delta, his concerns about being an aviation influencer while job hunting, and the valuable lesson he's learned about building relationships in this industry.

Whether you're currently grinding toward 1,500 hours, considering flight training, or just finished your ratings, Luke's honest perspective on the realities of early career aviation will resonate with you. This is the grind—unfiltered and real.

Topics covered:

1. Why Luke chose ATP and if he regrets it
2. The hidden costs and realities of accelerated flight training
3. Finding CFI work without the ATP guarantee
4. Building time through aerobatics and upset recovery training
5. Balancing social media presence with professional aviation career
6. The importance of mentorship and networking in aviation

Not every pilot's journey starts with dreams of flight—some begin with a challenge and a bottle of Eagle Rare bourbon.

In this episode, we sit down with Nick Fialka, captain at a major airline, host of the Ready for Pushback podcast, and interview coach at Spitfire Elite. Nick's path to the cockpit is anything but conventional. From attending The Citadel (not exactly known for churning out pilots) to flying helicopters in the Navy, then leaving it all to build a successful RV park in Florida—Nick thought the airlines weren't in his future.

That changed when a retired Delta captain rolled into his RV park with a $700,000 rig and convinced him over whiskey that he belonged at 35,000 feet.

We dive deep into what it really takes to land a job at a major airline in today's market. Nick pulls back the curtain on the interview process, sharing the mistakes that sink applications before they're even read, the logbook disasters that cost pilots their dream jobs, and why spending $600 on interview prep for a $22 million career is the easiest decision you'll ever make.

We also tackle the reality of aviation's boom-and-bust cycles, what the 2026 hiring landscape looks like, and why even the most senior pilots need to keep one eye on their next move. Whether you're building hours at a regional, prepping for your first major airline interview, or just trying to figure out if this career is right for you—this conversation is packed with real talk and actionable advice.

Plus, Nick shares why leading with empathy beats canned answers every time, and how your attitude might matter more than your flight time.

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Thinking about making the jump from fractional to the airlines—or wondering which path is right for you? In this episode, I break down my personal experience going from flying the Citation Latitude at a fractional operation to flying a 737 as a major airline pilot.

We cover the real pros and cons of each career path: the seven-day work weeks and FBO life of fractional flying versus the "turn left and you're done" simplicity of airline operations. From quality of life changes after becoming a parent to the grind of short-call reserve, I try to give an honest, no-holds-barred comparison of both worlds.

Whether you're chasing Garmin avionics and owner interactions or looking for longer overnights and schedule predictability, this episode will help you understand what to expect from each side of the professional pilot world.

Topics covered:

• Quality of life: 7 on 7 off vs. airline scheduling
• Customer service and crew dynamics
• The reality of short-call reserve
• Making the decision that's right for your family

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Building the Ultimate Flight Simulator: Inside Microsoft Flight Sim 2024 with Jorg Neumann & Sebastian Wloch

Podcast Description:

Join host Justin Seams as he sits down with Jorg Neumann (Head of Microsoft Flight Simulator) and Sebastian Wloch (CEO of Asobo Studio) for an in-depth look at one of aviation's most influential training tools. Discover how Microsoft Flight Simulator has evolved since its 2020 release, with groundbreaking additions like career mode, wake turbulence simulation, and photorealistic graphics that even fool experienced pilots.

In this episode, Jorg and Sebastian share behind-the-scenes stories about:

• Working with real test pilots from Boom Supersonic, Red Bull Air Race, and Boeing
• The painstaking process of achieving 99.9% realism in atmospheric lighting
• Simulating complex airport ground operations with thousands of moving parts
• How Flight Simulator inspires the next generation of pilots (an estimated 50% of all pilots started with the sim!)
• Partnerships with manufacturers like Boeing for virtual airplane training programs
• The future of flight simulation as a legitimate pilot training tool

Whether you're a seasoned pilot, aspiring aviator, or passionate sim enthusiast, this conversation reveals the incredible dedication and innovation behind the game that continues to spark the aviation bug in millions worldwide.

In this powerful Thanksgiving episode, host Justin Siems sits down with A320 Captain Jake Tishman to discuss one of the most inspiring aviation journeys you'll hear. Jake shares his decade-long battle with an autoimmune disease that threatened to derail his dream of becoming an airline pilot at every turn—from getting medically disqualified from the Naval Academy to facing multiple surgeries and hospital stays while trying to complete his flight training.

Despite the setbacks, Jake persevered through:

• Multiple hospitalizations during college and flight training
• Completing all his ratings from instrument through CFI/CFII in just 5.5 months
• Taking medical leave from his first airline job
• Navigating the corporate aviation world when airlines rejected his applications
• Finally landing at his current carrier after nearly giving up

This episode goes beyond the typical aviation career story to explore resilience, gratitude, and finding perspective through adversity. Jake's candid discussion about learning to appreciate the smallest victories—even just having the energy to get out of the car—offers valuable lessons for anyone facing challenges in their career or life.

Whether you're a student pilot facing obstacles, an instructor dealing with setbacks, or an airline pilot who rushed through training, Jake's story reminds us all to appreciate where we are and recognize that our unique paths shape who we become.

Plus, there's plenty of good-natured ribbing about Ohio State vs. Florida State football, corporate aviation perks, and the reality of chasing airline seniority numbers.

Former Air Force F-15 pilot Roy “Deacon” Qualls shares incredible stories from a 38-year aviation career that includes scrambling to intercept Air Force One on 9/11, crash-landing a burning OV-10 at McCarran Airport, and taking NFL legend Drew Brees for the ride of his life.

In this episode, Deacon reveals:

• How watching Top Gun literally changed his life in four days—from graduate student to Air Force recruit

• Landing a flaming OV-10 off-runway in Las Vegas after being given the wrong winds

• The Vice President’s authorization to shoot down aircraft on 9/11 and what it was like scrambling to intercept Air Force One

• Transitioning from F-15s to Boeing 777s—his first landing of anything bigger than a fighter was a triple seven at Charles de Gaulle with 290 passengers

• Why Drew Brees asked to pull MORE Gs and what made him such an incredible person to fly with

Deacon just released his book “Pilot’s Edge: Think, Train, and Fly Like a Pro” with 25% of profits funding aviation scholarships for the next generation.

Happy Flying,

Justin

In this state-of-the-industry episode, host Justin Seals sits down with Dr. Jim Higgins, Professor of Aviation at the University of North Dakota, to break down what's really happening in aviation right now.

They cover:

• Why hiring has slowed and what it means for aspiring pilots
• Boeing's production increase from 38 to 42 jets—and why that signals major changes ahead
• Spirit Airlines' double bankruptcy and what it reveals about low-cost carrier economics
• The government shutdown's impact on air traffic control and safety
• Privatization of ATC: Is it the answer?
• The $725 billion backlog of aircraft orders
• What pilot contract negotiations will look like when money's already good

Whether you're considering a pilot career, navigating the current market, or just curious about where the industry is headed, this conversation cuts through the hype to give you the real picture.

Key Topics: pilot hiring, Boeing, Spirit Airlines, government shutdown, ATC staffing, airline economics, contract negotiations

We're diving deep into how to save money in flight training, which is no small feat! In this episode, Jason Miller joins us to share valuable insights on managing the financial burden of becoming a pilot, especially for those of us who are navigating tight budgets. We talk about practical strategies that cater to both novice student pilots and those looking to transition into professional flying, emphasizing the need for a solid foundation in those early hours of training. From leveraging dry time effectively to understanding the importance of consistent practice, we cover how to make every dollar count while ensuring you build the skills necessary for success in the cockpit. So, whether you're dreaming of taking to the skies or already in the air, we've got tips to help keep your training costs in check and your flying aspirations alive!

Takeaways:

• The importance of using the Garmin Pilot app to streamline your flying experience before, during, and after each flight.
• Understanding that the cost of flight training can vary widely, with private pilot licenses costing anywhere from $8,000 to $25,000 depending on location and training methods.
• The necessity of consistent flying to maintain proficiency and reduce overall training costs in the long run, avoiding long gaps between flights.
• Utilizing dry time and procedural training effectively can save significant money, allowing students to practice key skills without incurring aircraft rental costs.
• The value of setting clear objectives for each flight lesson to maximize efficiency and focus during training sessions.
• Emphasizing the importance of standardization in training processes, which can enhance safety and proficiency while also simplifying the flying experience.

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In this episode of the Pilot to Pilot podcast, host Justin Siems chats with Thomas, a 737 airline pilot and the founder of Hangar 22 Coffee Roasters. Thomas shares his inspiring journey into aviation starting at age 4, navigating the challenges of COVID-19 right after flight school, and balancing a demanding flying career with building a thriving aviation-themed coffee business. From commuting between Atlanta and Toronto, to roasting coffee in hangars, partnering with Textron and EAA at Oshkosh, and dreaming of an airport coffee shop, Thomas discusses the highs and lows of pilot life in Canada vs. the US, the 1500-hour rule, family sacrifices, and why great coffee fuels every adventure. Whether you're a pilot, coffee lover, or aspiring entrepreneur, this conversation is a perfect blend of passion and perseverance. Tune in for aviation insights, business tips, and a rapid-fire Q&A!

Ryan Graves, a former F-18 pilot and Executive Director of Americans for Safe Aerospace, joins us to delve into the intriguing and often perplexing world of UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena). We kick off the conversation by exploring Ryan’s journey from aviation novice to military aviator, discussing the intense training and experiences that shaped his career. He shares some mind-boggling encounters with mysterious objects during his service, including near misses that raise eyebrows and questions about airspace safety. Our discussion also touches on the growing concerns surrounding autonomous aircraft and AI in aviation, and how these technologies might impact the future of flying. As we wrap up, Ryan emphasizes the importance of transparency and reporting in addressing UAP sightings, inviting listeners to engage with their own experiences through his organization.

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In Episode 339 of the Pilot to Pilot Podcast, host Justin Siems chats with Leah Froehlich, a passionate flight instructor and Instagram content creator. Leah shares her unexpected journey into aviation, sparked by a flight with her stepdad after pursuing physical therapy. She opens up about overcoming early confidence struggles, the realities of CFI life, the importance of humility in flying, and how she balances instructing with creating motivational videos that inspire aspiring pilots. From tips on starting flight training to navigating career paths beyond the airlines, this episode is packed with relatable insights for anyone in aviation. Don't miss Leah's rapid-fire answers and her take on building a fulfilling flying career. Follow Leah on Instagram @Leahthal_inflight for more CFI adventures!

Flying High with Charlie Gasmire: Lessons from the Cockpit and Beyond

Join us as we soar into the world of aviation with Charlie Gasmire, the brain behind Airplane Academy. With a family legacy of aviators, Charlie’s journey from a young boy inspired by his grandfather and father to a successful pilot and entrepreneur is nothing short of inspiring. In this episode, we dive deep into Charlie's experiences, discussing the ups and downs of becoming a pilot, the importance of mentorship, and the entrepreneurial spirit that drives him to create valuable content for aspiring aviators.

Charlie shares his insights on what it takes to own an aircraft, the process of buying a 182, and the joys and challenges of flying with family. From the thrill of soloing on his 16th birthday to the practicalities of aviation ownership, Charlie's story is a testament to the dedication and passion required in this field. We also touch on the importance of creating community and encouraging others to pursue their dreams of flying, making this episode a must-listen for anyone with a passion for aviation.

Whether you’re a seasoned pilot or just starting out, Charlie's experiences and advice provide a wealth of knowledge and encouragement. Tune in to discover how you can embark on your own aviation journey and perhaps find your own place in the skies.

Takeaways:

• Becoming a pilot is a journey filled with adventure, and it's essential to embrace the process, taking actionable steps towards your dream, just as Charlie did from a young age.
• Owning a plane like the Cessna 182 provides flexibility and freedom, allowing spontaneous trips and memorable family adventures, reinforcing the joy of aviation.
• The transition from renting to ownership comes with unique financial realities, where the unexpected costs can be daunting, but the rewards of flying make it worthwhile.
• Charlie emphasizes the importance of sharing mistakes in aviation to help others learn, showcasing the value of community and support among pilots.
• Airplane Academy is not just a business; it's a passion project aimed at inspiring others to pursue their aviation dreams, emphasizing that anyone can become a pilot.
• Having a mission, whether it's flying for fun or taking friends up, helps maintain enthusiasm for flying, even when busy schedules try to hold you back.

Evan Luft joins us on the podcast today, and he's here to share his unique journey through the world of aviation as a contract pilot. One of the standout points we discuss is that you don't have to follow the traditional path of becoming an airline pilot to enjoy a fulfilling and lucrative career in aviation. Evan's experiences flying over the stunning landscapes of Canada, from the Rocky Mountains to sunny Mexico, showcase the adventures that await outside the airline cockpit. We dive into the importance of networking, building relationships, and how being personable can open doors to incredible opportunities in the flying world. Whether you're just starting out or looking to carve your own niche in aviation, Evan's insights will inspire you to embrace the journey and explore the vast possibilities that come with it.

Takeaways:

• Evan Luft emphasizes the importance of networking and building relationships in aviation, as many opportunities arise from personal connections.
• He shares that flying in Canada offers unique adventures, with stunning scenery and diverse flying experiences not typically found in the U.S.
• The podcast highlights that you don't need to be an airline pilot to have a fulfilling and financially rewarding career in aviation.
• Evan discusses the flexibility of contract flying, allowing pilots to enjoy their work while exploring incredible destinations like Banff and Mexico.
• Justin and Evan agree that being a personable and friendly pilot can significantly impact job opportunities and client relationships.
• The episode showcases how technology, particularly Garmin avionics, enhances safety and efficiency for pilots flying in challenging weather conditions.

Erin and Paul, the dynamic husband-wife pilot duo, have taken their passion for aviation to new heights by building their very own Bearhawk 5. In this episode, they share the incredible journey of finding the perfect aircraft, navigating the world of airplane kits, and the challenges of construction, all while balancing their personal and professional lives. Their story is not just about the mechanics of building a plane; it's also about the adventures that flying brings, including their recent experience at Oshkosh, where they celebrated the culmination of their hard work. Along the way, they discuss the importance of community and support in aviation, the exciting features of their new plane, and their plans for a nomadic lifestyle in the skies. Join us as we dive into their inspiring journey and discover the joys and challenges of becoming owners of a custom-built aircraft.

Takeaways:

• Building your own airplane can be a rewarding experience, especially with a supportive builder assist program to guide you through the process.
• The journey of becoming pilots has opened up new adventures and opportunities for Erin and Paul, allowing them to explore their passion for aviation.
• Their Bearhawk 5 is designed to be versatile, capable of fast cruising and slow landings, making it suitable for various flying experiences.
• The couple plans to transform their Bearhawk into a modular camping setup, allowing for a nomadic lifestyle filled with travel and exploration.
• Leveraging advanced avionics like Garmin and Sirius XM enhances safety and situational awareness when flying, particularly during challenging weather conditions.
• Support from the aviation community, including mentors and friends, plays a crucial role in navigating the challenges of building and flying an aircraft.

Avination, welcome back to Episode 335 of the Pilot to Pilot podcast! Host Justin Siems sits down with aviation expert Jim Higgins, a former airline pilot and University of North Dakota professor, and Elise Dominguez, a Certified Financial Planner at Allworth Airline Advisors, for a deep dive into the airline industry and pilot financial planning. They unpack the cyclical nature of pilot hiring—citing 12,000–13,000 pilots hired in 2023–2024, now leveling to a still-strong 4,000–4,500 annually, per FAPA data. Justin shares his journey from a fractional company to a major airline, facing a $120,000 pay cut, while Jim reflects on his wife’s choice to stay a senior FO for schedule flexibility. Elise offers actionable advice for pilots at every stage: new hires like a 24-year-old check airman should start saving early to leverage time, mid-career pilots should max out 401(k) contributions (increasing by 1% yearly) and diversify with Roth IRAs or taxable accounts, and those nearing 65 should explore catch-up contributions ($7,500 at 50, $11,250 super catch-up at 60–63). They also tackle the pilot retirement age debate—will it hit 67?—and how it impacts young pilots’ seniority or senior pilots’ earnings. From avoiding lifestyle creep to planning for “what if” scenarios like furloughs or early retirement, this episode is packed with insights to keep your aviation career soaring. Visit Allworth Airline Advisors for a free consultation to build your personalized financial plan!

I hope you enjoy this podcast and if you're interested in reaching out for more financial information make sure you check out Allworth Airline Advisors!

Hope to see you all at EAA Ariventure!

Justin

Takeaways:

• The state of the airline industry is currently experiencing a hiring slowdown compared to the record-high years of 2023 and 2024, but opportunities still exist.
• Elise emphasizes the importance of starting financial planning early in a pilot's career to build a solid foundation for retirement and future investments.
• It’s crucial for pilots to diversify their investments outside of 401(k)s to avoid over-relying on employer-sponsored plans for retirement income.
• Discussing the emotional aspects of financial decisions is important, as pilots often need guidance to navigate the ups and downs of their careers and personal finance.
• Investing in a health savings account can provide significant tax advantages, especially for pilots with high deductible plans, making it a smart move for long-term financial health.
• Addressing the potential changes in the retirement age from 65 to 67, it's essential for pilots to consider the impact on their career plans and future earnings potential.

The episode features an engaging discussion with Hagai Makov, the Vice President of Business Development at Skypath, a revolutionary application designed to enhance the aviation experience through innovative technology. Makov shares his personal journey, revealing how his aspirations shifted from joining Special Forces to becoming an attack helicopter pilot in the Israeli Air Force. This transition laid the foundation for his subsequent endeavors in the aviation industry, ultimately leading him to Skypath. The conversation provides a compelling narrative on the importance of resilience and adaptability in pursuing one’s passions, as Makov reflects on the pressures and challenges he faced during his military training.

The dialogue transitions into a detailed exploration of Skypath's functionalities, particularly its ability to provide real-time turbulence alerts to pilots. Makov elucidates how this feature greatly enhances flight safety and passenger comfort, allowing pilots to proactively manage turbulence during flights. The discussion underscores the significance of effective communication among flight crews and the role technology plays in facilitating these interactions. Makov emphasizes the app’s unique capability to integrate seamlessly into existing aviation workflows, ensuring that pilots, dispatchers, and cabin crew are all aligned in their efforts to create a safe and enjoyable flying experience for passengers.

As the episode draws to a close, Makov offers insights into the future of Skypath and its aspirations for growth within the aviation sector. He expresses a commitment to continuous improvement and innovation, highlighting the company's dedication to addressing the evolving needs of the industry. This episode serves not only as an exploration of Skypath’s technological advancements but also as a reflection on the broader implications of personal growth, teamwork, and the relentless pursuit of excellence in the aviation field.

The focus of this episode revolves around the captivating journey of Steve, a former F15 pilot and now an accomplished airline pilot, who shares his remarkable experiences, including a harrowing incident involving a forced water landing that tested his mettle and resilience. Steve recounts his transition from military aviation to civilian flying, emphasizing the importance of mentorship and the invaluable lessons gleaned from both successes and failures throughout his career. He articulates the profound influence of early aviation experiences, particularly the initial inspiration garnered from a neighbor's airplane construction project, which ignited his passion for flight. The discussion further delves into the nuances of backcountry flying, underscoring the freedom it affords compared to the structured environment of commercial aviation. Ultimately, Steve's narrative serves as a testament to the spirit of adventure, the significance of continuous learning, and the enduring bonds formed within the aviation community.

Takeaways:

• The importance of utilizing advanced avionics and mobile applications for enhanced flight safety and efficiency cannot be overstated, particularly in today's aviation landscape.
• The conversation highlights the profound connection between athleticism and aviation, underscoring the necessity for rigorous training and practice in both domains to ensure peak performance and safety.
• The episode recounts a harrowing personal experience involving an emergency landing in a river, illustrating the critical nature of situational awareness and decision-making in aviation.
• Listeners are reminded of the significance of mentorship in aviation, as experienced pilots can profoundly influence the next generation by sharing knowledge and fostering passion for flying.
• The discussion emphasizes the need for humility, approachability, and credibility as essential traits for pilots, which contribute to a safer and more collaborative flying community.
• The narrative reveals the evolution of personal ambitions and the transformative nature of aviation experiences, advocating for pursuing one's passion even in the face of adversity.

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welcome back to episode 332 of the Pilot to Pilot podcast. In todays podcast episode we talk about the journey of Tom, a commercial pilot transitioning from a successful engineering career to pursue his lifelong aspiration of becoming a professional pilot. Throughout the discussion, we delve into Tom's experiences with aircraft ownership, specifically his acquisition of a Cessna 150 and subsequently a Mooney, highlighting the financial aspects and the unique challenges associated with each. Tom shares valuable insights into his training process, which includes both traditional flight instruction and self-driven initiatives, underscoring the importance of perseverance in the face of uncertainty within the aviation industry. We also explore the emotional dynamics of pursuing such a significant career change, particularly regarding family support and the inherent risks involved in aviation. This episode serves as an inspiration for those contemplating a similar path, reinforcing the notion that dedication and passion can ultimately lead to the fulfillment of one's dreams in aviation.

Companies mentioned in this episode:

• Garmin
• Sirius XM Aviation
• Ground School
• Southern Illinois University
• NetJets
• Flexjet
• Mooney
• Cessna
• Paradigm Aerobatics

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The salient point of this podcast episode centers on the innovative advancements in turbulence detection and management provided by Skypath, as articulated by its Chief Product Officer, Guy. Throughout our dialogue, we explore Guy's fascinating journey from flying fighter jets to developing software solutions that enhance aviation safety. The conversation delves into the critical role of data in improving real-time turbulence reporting, which significantly contributes to passenger and crew safety. Additionally, we discuss the evolution of Skypath from a basic turbulence data app to a comprehensive platform that integrates multiple data sources, thereby ensuring a safer flight experience. This episode offers a profound insight into how technology is reshaping the aviation landscape, ultimately aiming to enhance the quality of flight and ensure the well-being of all aboard.

The salient point of this episode revolves around the remarkable journey of Marco Bouw, who transitioned from a career in regional airlines to becoming a major airline pilot while also pursuing his passion for aerobatics. Throughout our discourse, we delve into Marco's early inspirations, including his experiences at the Oshkosh Airshow, which ignited his desire to fly. We share insights into the challenges and triumphs associated with our respective aviation paths, emphasizing the importance of adaptability and perseverance in the face of adversity. Notably, Marco recounts a harrowing incident involving a flat spin that necessitated his emergency ejection from the aircraft over water, a narrative that underscores the unpredictable nature of aviation. As we navigate through these experiences, we reflect on the intricate balance between professional commitments and personal aspirations, particularly in the context of family life and the pursuit of one's passions in aviation.

Avination, welcome back to episode 329 of the Pilot to Pilot podcast today’s episode is with my buddy, Mike Pardillo. Mike and I were in the same class at our major airline and were a day apart in our 737 training. In this episode, Mike, talks about why he went the military route, what the Growler life was like and how the transition to 121 life has been!

The Pilot to Pilot Podcast dives deep into the current state of the aviation industry, with host Justin Seams engaging in a thorough discussion with Dr. Jim Higgins, a professor of aviation. The conversation begins with a candid update on the challenges faced by the podcast team, including illness and scheduling difficulties, setting a relatable tone for listeners. As they transition into the heart of the episode, Justin and Jim address the evolving landscape of pilot hiring, particularly focusing on regional airlines. Jim shares insights into how hiring practices have shifted, highlighting a trend towards stricter minimum requirements and the competitive nature of the current pilot market. He emphasizes the importance of building a robust resume and the need for aspiring pilots to remain adaptable in a fluctuating job market.

Moreover, the episode touches on the implications of supply chain issues with major manufacturers like Boeing and Airbus, which have led to a slowdown in aircraft availability and consequently affected hiring rates. Jim elaborates on how these factors interplay with broader market dynamics, including the economic pressures that have historically shaped pilot recruitment and retention strategies. They reflect on how the pandemic has altered perceptions and expectations within the aviation community, urging listeners to maintain perspective and resilience as they navigate their career paths in this unpredictable environment.

As the conversation unfolds, the duo also explores the importance of mental health and support systems for pilots, particularly in light of recent alarming incidents within the industry. Jim introduces the HIMSS program, a critical resource for pilots facing substance abuse issues, reiterating the necessity for individuals to seek help proactively. This segment serves not only as a cautionary tale but also as a beacon of hope, illustrating that recovery and successful reintegration into the profession are possible with the right support. The episode wraps up with a call to action for listeners to engage with the podcast and share their experiences, fostering a sense of community among aviation enthusiasts and professionals alike.

Caroline Blaze Jensen, a former Thunderbird pilot and accomplished fighter pilot, shares her incredible journey through aviation, including her experiences flying combat missions and performing in air shows. She emphasizes the importance of determination and resilience, highlighting that success often comes from overcoming failures and learning from them. Caroline discusses the unique pressures of being a military pilot, transitioning from combat to the Thunderbirds, and the significance of teamwork in high-stakes environments. She also reflects on her role as a mentor and inspiration for the next generation of pilots, especially women in aviation. With insights into her personal experiences and future aspirations, Caroline illustrates the profound impact of pursuing one’s dreams while navigating the challenges of a demanding career.

Takeaways:

• Caroline Blaze Jensen shares her journey from childhood fascination with flying to becoming a Thunderbird pilot, emphasizing the importance of perseverance.
• The transition from military flying to performing in air shows involves a shift in focus from combat to entertainment while maintaining high performance standards.
• Despite facing challenges and doubts, Caroline's determination and hard work led her to achieve her dream of flying fighter jets.
• The camaraderie and teamwork within military aviation are vital for success, showcasing the importance of relationships in high-stakes environments.
• Caroline highlights the significance of representation in aviation, inspiring future generations to pursue their dreams regardless of gender.
• Her experiences flying in combat and performing as a Thunderbird illustrate the diverse roles pilots play in both service and public outreach.

Zean Nielsen, the CEO of Cirrus, joins Justin on the Pilot to Pilot podcast to discuss the evolving landscape of general aviation and the exciting innovations at Cirrus, including the recently launched G7. Nielsen emphasizes the significant investment Cirrus is making in research and development to enhance safety and customer experience. He shares insights into the challenges and opportunities presented by the current aviation market, particularly in light of regional travel needs exacerbated by the pandemic. The conversation also touches on the potential of electric vertical takeoff and landing (eVTOL) aircraft, with Nielsen expressing cautious optimism while highlighting the technological and regulatory hurdles yet to be overcome. Throughout the episode, the importance of pilot training and safety remains a central theme, showcasing Cirrus's commitment to fostering a new generation of aviators.

Takeaways:

• The general aviation market remains ripe for disruption, especially in regional travel.
• Safety is a core value for Cirrus, with a focus on pilot training.
• The G7 model showcases innovative technology that integrates seamlessly with existing systems.
• Cirrus prioritizes high-quality craftsmanship and fit and finish in their aircraft design.
• Electric and EVTOL aircraft face significant hurdles in terms of infrastructure and technology.

Bob Werderich, a professional pilot and executive vice president of Spartan Flight Operations, shares his inspiring journey into aviation, emphasizing the importance of personal connections in flight training. He discusses how his early experiences with his father, a pilot for North Central Airlines, shaped his love for flying, leading him to a career he never initially intended to pursue. As he reflects on his transition from sports to aviation, Bob highlights the significance of adapting to challenges and the value of teaching in a personalized manner. The conversation delves into the evolution of his flight school, Illinois Aviation Academy, and its recent acquisition by Spartan, which has allowed for growth and innovation while maintaining a commitment to quality education. Ultimately, Bob's passion for aviation and dedication to fostering a supportive environment for students shines through, making a compelling case for why learning in challenging conditions can better prepare aspiring pilots for their future careers.

Takeaways:

• Bob Werderich journey into aviation was inspired by his father's career as a pilot, which shaped his passion for flying from a young age.
• Overcoming a football injury led Bob to reassess his life choices, ultimately pursuing flight training more seriously.
• Teaching aviation presents unique challenges, especially when adapting to different learning styles among students of varying ages and experiences.
• Bob emphasizes that flying in challenging weather conditions, like those in Chicago, prepares pilots better for real-world flying scenarios.
• The acquisition of Illinois Aviation by Spartan was a lengthy process that aligned with Bob's vision for quality aviation education.
• Bob aims to maintain a personalized approach in flight training, ensuring each student feels valued and supported in their journey.

Darren Byrd, a dedicated airline pilot with nearly two decades of experience, recounts his inspirational journey into the aviation industry, highlighting the pivotal moments that shaped his career. Starting with a childhood fascination for flight simulators, Darren's desire to become a pilot was initially stifled by self-doubt regarding his math skills and eyesight. It wasn't until his wife pushed him to pursue his dream that he embarked on the rigorous training required to become a commercial pilot. The discussion covers the intricacies of his flight training experience, emphasizing the need for commitment and the sacrifices made along the way. Darren's candid reflections on the financial challenges of flight school and the emotional hurdles faced during training resonate with aspiring aviators, showcasing the importance of determination and support systems in achieving one’s goals.

The episode takes a deeper dive into the realities of working as a junior pilot during the economic downturn in the late 2000s, shedding light on the uncertainties and challenges that come with the profession. Darren shares his experiences of being furloughed and the emotional struggle of remaining hopeful in a tumultuous industry. He underscores the value of networking and proactive career management for pilots, advising that building relationships within the aviation community can significantly enhance opportunities for advancement. This narrative not only serves as a guide for new pilots but also offers a sobering reminder of the unpredictable nature of the aviation industry, encouraging listeners to be prepared for both the ups and downs of a flying career.

Darren's journey doesn't stop at flying; he also delves into the world of social media and its impact on aviation. He discusses the responsibility that comes with being an aviation influencer, emphasizing the need for professionalism and caution in how pilots represent themselves online. Through his engaging storytelling, Darren highlights the importance of transparency in sharing the realities of being a pilot, aiming to educate and inspire the next generation of aviators. His mission to demystify the aviation profession while providing authentic insights serves as a compelling call to action for those considering a career in flying, making this episode both informative and motivational.

Maya Shpak, CEO of SkyPath, shares her journey from a military helicopter pilot to leading an innovative aviation technology company focused on turbulence reporting. With a unique app likened to "Waze for turbulence," SkyPath empowers pilots by harnessing real-time data to enhance flight safety and comfort. Maya discusses her passion for flying, the thrill of helicopter aviation, and the importance of teamwork in the cockpit. The conversation also highlights the challenges of introducing new technology to the traditional aviation industry, emphasizing the need for collaboration among airlines to share valuable turbulence data. As the episode unfolds, listeners gain insight into the future of aviation technology and how SkyPath aims to serve both commercial and general aviation pilots.

Takeaways:

• Maya Shpak shares her journey from military pilot to CEO of SkyPath, emphasizing her passion for aviation.
• The SkyPath app utilizes crowd-sourced data to help pilots avoid turbulence during flights effectively.
• Maya encourages more women to pursue careers in aviation, highlighting the importance of education and representation.
• The app's technology relies on existing iPad sensors, making it accessible and easy to implement for pilots.
• Maya discusses the challenges of introducing innovative technology to the traditional aviation industry.
• The importance of teamwork in aviation is reinforced, especially during challenging flying conditions.

Tom Heidema, an experienced American Airlines pilot, shares his incredible journey from becoming a flight instructor to navigating the highs and lows of his aviation career, including a life-altering cardiac arrest. He discusses the importance of maintaining health and fitness as a pilot, emphasizing that flying is just one part of a more significant identity. The episode details his near-death experience and the profound insights he gained about family and life beyond aviation. Tom also highlights essential qualities sought in pilot candidates during the hiring process, such as technical proficiency, interpersonal skills, and the ability to advocate for others. As he promotes his book, "Flying and Dying," he aims to inspire and educate others on the importance of mental health and resilience in the aviation community.

Tom Heidema, a seasoned pilot with American Airlines and author of the book *Flying and Dying*, shares his compelling journey from aspiring aviator to airline captain. He recounts his early fascination with flying, sparked at the age of four when he first boarded an airplane. This passion propelled him to begin flight lessons at 14, despite initial skepticism from his family about his commitment to aviation. As he narrates his journey, Heidema reflects on the pivotal moments that shaped his career, including his experiences as a Certified Flight Instructor (CFI) and his subsequent transition to flying for commuter airlines before finally joining American Airlines. Throughout the conversation, he emphasizes the importance of having a supportive network, including mentors who inspired him and colleagues who have become friends over the years.

The episode also delves into Heidema's near-death experience due to cardiac arrest, which occurred in November 2020. He vividly describes the harrowing moments as he lost consciousness and was revived through CPR and an AED, emphasizing the critical importance of being prepared for emergencies. This experience not only reshaped his view on life and health but also inspired him to advocate for the installation of AEDs in public spaces. Heidema discusses how he transformed his ordeal into a mission to save lives, pledging a portion of the book's proceeds to support cardiac arrest awareness and education. This narrative serves as a powerful reminder of the fragility of life and the impact one can have on others by sharing their story.

Listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own passions and the importance of pursuing them, while also understanding the significance of health and community. Heidema's story is one of resilience, demonstrating that even in the face of adversity, there is an opportunity to grow and give back. The episode wraps up with Heidema discussing his book, which not only chronicles his life and experiences in aviation but also seeks to inspire and educate others about the realities of being a pilot and the importance of mental health in aviation. By sharing his journey, Heidema hopes to motivate aspiring pilots and remind current aviators of the importance of connection, health, and the legacy they leave behind.

Josh Flowers and Justin Seams reflect on their recent flight adventure to Olathe, Kansas, highlighting critical lessons learned from navigating challenging weather conditions. The main takeaway emphasizes that a good outcome does not equate to good decision-making, as they encountered severe turbulence and convective weather that tested their flying skills and judgment. As they delve into their pre-flight planning mistakes and the complexities of flying a small aircraft in a busy airspace, the discussion underscores the importance of humility and thorough preparation in aviation. The pair share their personal experiences, revealing the value of debriefing and learning from every flight, even the ones that don't go as planned. With humor and camaraderie, they reminisce about their time together, reinforcing the bond formed through shared challenges in the cockpit.

Takeaways:

• Effective flight planning is crucial for a safe and smooth flying experience, particularly with unpredictable weather.
• Pilots should communicate their intentions clearly with air traffic control to ensure safe navigation through busy airspaces.
• Flying in a single-engine aircraft at night should be carefully evaluated against the risks involved, including weather conditions.
• Debriefing after flights and learning from mistakes is essential for personal growth and safety in aviation.
• Using reliable weather data, such as SiriusXM, can significantly enhance situational awareness during flights.
• Good outcomes do not always equate to good decision-making; it's vital to analyze and learn from each flight.