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Paul Klee loved working in a wide variety of styles at once in his paintings: abstract, representational, runic or symbolic. His oeuvre literally contains multitudes. I recently saw a show of his late works in New York at the Jewish Museum and was amazed at how many mediums and approaches to painting were on display. This episode honors him and his radical reconsideration of Painting with a side detour on Magritte. Come along for a wild ride!
Klee works mentioned: Around the Fish 1926, Suffering Fruit 1934, Struck from the List 1933, This Star Teaches Bending 1940, Angel, Still Female 1939, Drinking Companion 1931
Magritte works mentioned: Le Stropiat (version 1 and 2-both 1948), Jean-Marie 1948, A Stroke of Luck 1948, Seasickness 1948, The Famine 1948, The Pictorial Content 1948
Host note: “The Famine” cheekily referenced the characters in a popular French comic series of the day called Adventures of the Pieds Nickelés (nickel plated feet)* created by Louis Forton and told the story of 3 bumbling and good for nothing criminals who constantly fail at their mission.
Artists mentioned: Paul Klee, Hilma af Klint, Agnes Martin, Giorgio Morandi, Hannah Wilke, René Magritte, Pablo Picasso, Emil Nolde, Wassily Kandinsky, Henri Rousseau, Ludwig Meidner, Richard Seewald, Oskar Kokoschka, Henri Matisse, Giorgio de Chirico, Gerhard Richter, Pierre-Auguste Renoir, André Breton, Diego Velázquez (Las Meninas 1656)
Writers mentioned: Ralph Waldo Emerson, Sarah Gottesman, Charles W. Haxthausen, Wilhelm Hausenstein, Louis Scutenaire, George Kubler, Michael Foucault
Links:
Paul Klee: Other Possible Worlds exhibit at the Jewish Museum 2026
Ep 99: Collage, Lee Krasner and Jess w/ Jennifer Coates
Season 1 · Episode 99
Thursday, August 20, 2026 • Duration 01:49:32
We're talking collage! Jennifer Coates joins me in a quest to get to the heart of why collage is such a powerful generator in the studio. We also take a look at 2 artists who used collage in different ways: Lee Krasner and Jess. Krasner used collage at certain key moments to bridge bodies of work, and Jess used collage as his main ecstatic medium spanning more than 4 decades of his output. As Krasner teaches us: "Knife or scissors...no tear! "
Works by Lee Krasner mentioned: Seated Figure 1938-9; Milkweed, Stretched Yellow, Desert Moon, Bird Talk, Blue Level (all 1955); Imperfect Indicative 1976 (Visit Kasmin Gallery for images)
Works by Jess mentioned: Blasted Beauty 1954, The Translations series, Paste-Ups series, Assemblies series, Necrofacts series, Salvages series, Narkissos series 1976-1991, The Unentitled Graces 1978, Dyslecstasy 1991 (See all of his works at https://jesscollins.org/)
Glue Tawk™: Jennifer prefers Matte Medium and Amy agrees but suggests using UHU stick for thin papers
Ep 98: Book Talks: Drawings & Observations by Louise Bourgeois / Lawrence Rinder w/ Mandolyn Wilson Rosen
Season 1 · Episode 98
Sunday, July 5, 2026 • Duration 01:15:59
Louise Bourgeois Part 2!
Mandolyn Wilson Rosen is back in her Book Talks seat to help me dissect a new delicious art book: Drawings & Observationsby Louise Bourgeois with Lawrence Rinder. Bourgeois referred to these sketches as her "thought feathers" and revealed her thinking behind the reproduced works in recordings transcribed by curator Lawrence Rinder. It was so cool to get these direct insights into her imagery.
This episode is a sequel to the recording right before this one (about our trip to view Louise Bourgeois' NYC home). Check out Part 1 if you missed it!
The Book/Monograph:
Louise Bourgeois: Drawings and Observations, by Louise Bourgeois with Lawrence Rinder, pub 1995
The Exhibition that the monograph accompanied:
"Louise Bourgeois: Drawings" University of California, Berkeley's University Art Museum (UAM) from January 24 to March 24, 1996
Page 68-9 "Untitled" 1949 red ink and charcoal on paper
Page 76-7 "Untitled" 1947 crayon, pen & ink and pencil
Page 104-5 "Untitled" 1950 charcoal
Ep 97: Visiting the Louise Bourgeois House w Beka Goedde and Mandolyn Wilson Rosen
Season 1 · Episode 97
Monday, May 25, 2026 • Duration 01:02:52
Beka Goedde and Mandolyn Wilson Rosen join me this episode to unpack our experience visiting renowned artist, Louise Bourgeois' home in NYC. We entered her historic brownstone and were immediately transported to another world and time. Louise lived a full life but was very much an artistic homebody. She made her home her studio in every sense of the word, stuffing each room full of materials to be on hand whenever inspiration struck. She found a way to balance family life with making her work and rode out long career lulls with grace and determination. Come along with us as we discuss our peek inside her sanctuary.
Great film about Louise Bourgeois:Louise Bourgeois: The Spider, the Mistress, and the Tangerine 2008
Bourgeois works mentioned: "Arched Figure" 1993, "Maman" 1999
Bourgeois exhibitions mentioned: The Women at Peggy Guggenheim's Art of This Century gallery NYC 1945, Eccentric Abstraction, curated by Lucy Lippard at The Fischbach Gallery NYC 1966
Beka mentioned, master printmaker and co-founder of , a fine art print publishing studio who made so many Bourgeois prints.
Ep 96: Book Talks: Notes from the Woodshed by Jack Whitten w/ Mandolyn Wilson Rosen
Season 1 · Episode 96
Thursday, March 12, 2026 • Duration 01:35:11
In this new Book Talks episode, Mandolyn Wilson Rosen is back to help me review a new art book: Jack Whitten: Notes From the Woodshed, Edited by Katy Siegel for Hauser & Wirth. Equal parts profound, strident and hilarious, Jack Whitten's (1939-2018) 50 year studio log packs a wallop. And it's meaty at 581 pages, so we had lots to discuss! Stick around to hear some sage advice, inspiring tales of studio experimentation and even some positive affirmations from this incredible painter and sculptor.
Artists mentioned: Willlem DeKooning, Robert Blackburn, Romare Bearden, Jacob Lawrence, Norman Lewis, Barnett Newman, Franz Kline, Gerhard Richter, Richard Serra, Ron Gorchov, Sol Lewitt, Frank Stella, Caravaggio, Berrisford Boothe, Kerry Downey, Amy Sillman, Jake Berthot
Ep 95: About Dawn Clements w/ Judy Glantzman
Season 1 · Episode 95
Monday, January 26, 2026 • Duration 01:03:07
Artist, Judy Glantzman, is back on the pod this week to discuss her friend and incredible artist, Dawn Clements (1958-2018). Come along with me as I hear more about this brave, innovative artist who celebrated the idea of the ungovernable doodle. Her ink and gouache drawings span walls and rooms, yet she often made them folded up on trains and while lying in bed. It was wonderful to hear Judy's recollections of this artist I have long-admired.
Ep 94: Women Mystics in Art w/ Jennifer Coates (Part 2)
Season 1 · Episode 94
Saturday, December 6, 2025 • Duration 59:42
We're back for Part 2! Artist, Jennifer Coates joins me again to discuss 2 modern-day women mystic artists: Cornish Visionary, Ithell Colquhoun and Desert Transcendentalist, Agnes Pelton.
Ithell Colquhoun links and mentions:
"Papers of Ithell Colquhoun (1906-1988)" archive at Tate Modern
Ep 93: Women Mystics in Art w/ Jennifer Coates (Part 1)
Season 1 · Episode 93
Friday, November 14, 2025 • Duration 01:15:00
In this episode, Jennifer Coates returns to help me explore the spookily wonderful topic of Women Mystics and their connection to art and artists. In Part 1, we cover mystics from the Pythia of Ancient Greece to ecstatic visionaries like Hildegard von Bingen of the late Medieval era.
P.S.: Keep an eye out for Part 2 where we dip into our fave 20th-century mystical artists.
Ancient Mystics mentioned: The Pythia, priestesses of Apollo and the women behind the Oracle at Delphi (Greek) and the process of Dream Incubation by the Dream Oracles (Greek)
Pythia/Oracle of Delphi deep dive (thanks, Gary!):
Artists, Jennifer Coates, David Humphrey and Catherine Haggarty and are back for Part 3 of our series on Drawing. This time we switched things up and each artist brought both an artwork from art history and a related work of their own to discuss. Get ready to hear some vivid "ekphrasis" on our drawing picks (new vocab word unlocked-thanks, David!).
This is an episode about how acting on dumb ideas in the studio can be just the thing to get you out of artist's block or help you make a big change. Get ready for some choice bon mots from the likes of Weird Al Yankovic, Laurie Anderson, William Kentridge and others on the sage subject of being open to studio stupidity.
Mentions: Weird Al Yankovic, Laurie Anderson, William Kentridge, Jack Whitten, Epictetus, Susan Sontag, Mister T, Twyla Tharp
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Proto-collage and assemblage objects & installations: Opificio delle Pietre Dure - Florence, Limoges Casket/Reliquary 13th c, Musée des Beaux-Arts de Lille, Capuchin Crypt under Santa Maria della Concezione dei Cappuccini, Rome, Shell Grotto, Margate, Kent, Paper lace valentines of the Victorian era, Wishing Trees of Cornwall
Artists mentioned: Hannah Hoch, Lee Krasner, Jess, Artists of the DADA movement, Georges Braque, Pablo Picasso, Wangechi Mutu, Mark Bradford, Chris Martin, Thomas Lanigan-Schmidt, Henri Matisse, Hans Hoffman, Piet Mondrian, Illuminators of the Book of Kells, Anne Ryan, Paul Klee, Amy Sillman, Lari Pittman, Marcel Duchamp, Clyfford Still, Hieronymus Bosch, Joseph Cornell, Andrea Burgay, Max-o-matic, Richard Diebenkorn, Robert Motherwell, Henri Matisse, Max Ernst, Kurt Schwitters, Grete Stern
Writers mentioned: Art Reporter and Critic: Stuart Preston; Poets: Robert Duncan and John Ashbery; Gail Levin; Charles Baudelaire; Edgar Allen Poe
Page 126-7 "Untitled" 1967 ink and gouache on paper
Page 156-7 "Untitled" 1988 Watercolor and Pencil on paper
Artists mentioned: Jen Schwarting, Jean Michel Basquiat, Paul Klee, Joan Miro, Robert Gober, Nina Bovasso, Vicki Sher, Jack Whitten, Meret Oppenheim, Peter Halley
Other books mentioned:Peter Halley: Recent Essays 1990-1996 Edgewise Press, Inside the Studio: Two Decades of Talks with Artists in New York by Independent Curators International, New York, Jack Whitten: Notes from the Woodshed Hauser & Wirth
Thank you to my guest Mandolyn Wilson Rosen! Find her online at:
Further reading: Louise Bourgeois: Drawings and Observations, Ed. Lawrence Rinder; Runaway Girl: The Artist Louise Bourgeois , a YA book by Jan Greenberg (with Sandra Jordan); "New York Real Estate and the Ruin of American Art" by Josh Kline / October
Thank you to my guests, Beka Goedde and Mandolyn Wilson Rosen! Find them online at:
Whitten works mentioned: "The Messenger: For Art Blakey," "Homecoming: For Miles," "Black Monolith 2: Homage to Ralph Ellison, The Invisible Man," "Head IV Lynching," Homage to Malcolm," "King's Wish (Martin Luther's Dream)," "King's Garden," The Slab Paintings, "Asa's Palace," Gray Paintings, Greek Alphabet Paintings, "Dead Reckoning I," "9-11-01," "Apps for Obama," "Nine Fire CDS: For the Fire Spitter (Jane Cortez)," "Zeitgeist Traps (For Michael Goldberg)," "Quantum Wall VIII for Arshile Gorky (My First Love in Painting)," "Crystal Palace: For Jeanne Siegel"
Philosophers Jack loved: Immanuel Kant, Martin Heidegger, Edmund Husserl, Taha Hussein (Egyptian, Arab Renaissance), Friedrich Nietzsche, Slavoj Žižek
Other artist logs:
Day Book by Anne Truitt
The Andy Warhol Diaries Edited by Pat Hackett
Philip Guston: Collected Writings, Lectures and Conversations Edited by Clark Coolidge
Agnes Martin: Painting, Writings, Remembrances Edited by Arne Glimcher
Residencies mentioned: Sint Trudo Abdij (Maele, Belgium), MacDowell, Yaddo, Civitella Ranieri Foundation
Other artists mentioned: Janet Fish, Fra Angelico ("Noli me tangere", 1440–42. Fresco from the convent of San Marco, Florence), Jane Freilicher, Catherine Murphy, Morandi, David Wojnarowicz, Vija Celmins, George Condo, Gina Ruggeri, Charles Burchfield, Charles Garabedian, Mary Temple
Book mentioned: "Looking at the Overlooked" by Norman Bryson
Dawn's favorite art materials: PAPER • Fabriano Accademia roll paper, 80-lb., and Strathmore 400 drawing roll paper, 100-lb. INKS AND PENCILS • Sumi ink (both black and vermilion)• ballpoint pen (Bic Crystal or PaperMate medium point black)• No. 2 pencils WATERCOLOR • Sennelier GOUACHE: • Winsor & Newton BRUSHES • soft round watercolor
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Thank you to my guest, Judy Glantzman! Don't miss her upcoming solo show:
Other artworks mentioned: The Sketchbooks of John Constable, Eugene Delacroix and JMW Turner, Catherine Murphy "In the Grass" 2011, Kerry James Marshall "Untitled" 2009, Paul Klee "Untitled (Last Still Life)" 1940, "Still Ugly Angel" 1940, "Vigilant Angel" 1939, "Bell Angel" 1939, "Doubting Angel" 1939, "Angel in a Crisis II" 1939 , "Mis- Angel " 1939, "Angelus Novus" 1920, "Angel of Care on a Steep Road" 1931
Books mentioned: "Hunchback of Notre Dame" and "Les Miserables" by Victor Hugo, "The Angels of Paul Klee" by Boris Friedewald, "Exploring Masterpieces : a Fact-Filled Coloring Book" 1990
Artists mentioned: Victor Hugo, Odilon Redon, Catherine Murphy, Paul Klee, John Constable, Eugene Delacroix, JMW Turner, Kerry James Marshall, Josephine Halvorson, Jasper Johns (his Mind/Mirror retrospective at Whitney Museum), Judy Glantzman, Franz Marc, Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres, Jane Fine, James Esber, Erica Svec, Zachary Wollard
Jennifer and David have work at 1Gap Gallery in "2>1" Curated by Michael Holden thru Jan 5, 2026 (Brooklyn)
Amy has work in:
"Eyes in the Sky" (solo) at theNextWaveGallery at SHOWROOM at Guerra Paint & Pigments curated by Nicole Castaldo thru Oct 31, 2025 (Maspeth-Queens)
"Often I am Permitted to Return to a Meadow" at Active Space curated by Patrick Bower and Robert Zurer of Immaterial Projects Nov 7 - Nov 22, 2025 (Bushwick-Brooklyn)
"A Gnawing Thought " at Utopia Gallery curated by Mandolyn Wilson Rosen Dec 6 -Jan 24, 2026 (Kingston, NY)
"Relic" at Platform Project Space curated by Alyssa Fanning, Michael Lee and Patrick Neal Jan 30-Feb 5, 2026 (Dumbo-Brooklyn)
Congrats to Catherine and Andrew Prayzner on their beautiful baby girl, Juliette Margaret!
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