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| Alistair Smith, Head of Real Estate at Border to Coast – Building a £2bn Pension Property Platform | 10 Nov 2025 | 01:03:37 | |
What does it take to design and deliver a £2 billion real-estate platform serving over a million UK pensioners - while keeping a long-term focus in a short-term world? This week, I sat down with Alistair Smith, Head of Real Estate at Border to Coast Pensions Partnership, to unpack his 30-year career spanning advisory, private-equity, and institutional real estate - and the leadership lessons learned through every market cycle. Alistair's journey includes senior roles at abrdn, where he led European real-estate investment management, before joining Border to Coast in 2022 to launch its UK Direct and Global Indirect Pooled Funds - now managing roughly £2 billion across 11 partner funds. We discuss navigating mergers, restructuring portfolios, and how to build enduring value in an industry defined by change. Key Topics Covered In This Episode ✅ From Advisory to Institutional - The path from chartered surveyor to head of real estate ✅ Mergers & Change - Lessons from the abrdn / Standard Life integration ✅ Redundancy & Resilience - How to rebuild and refocus after a career shock ✅ Building Border to Coast - How to pool 11 pension funds and create a £2 billion platform ✅ Long-Term Value - Why durable income beats short-term churn in real-estate investing ✅ Market Outlook - Where he sees opportunity as core real estate rebalances Oh, and one last thing… In every episode, I ask each guest: Who are the People, what Property, and which Place they'd invest in if they had £500 million at their disposal? Alistair's answer reflected discipline, clarity, and a decades-long belief in the power of durable income and quality assets 💷 Got thoughts or questions about this episode? Drop them in the comments - I'd love to hear from you. And if you're enjoying what I'm putting out, don't forget to hit subscribe and turn on notifications so you never miss an episode. The People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne – Recruiting Leadership & Future Leadership hires for Real Estate Funds, Owners, Investors & Developers. 🔊 LIKE ➡ SHARE ➡ SUBSCRIBE 👉 http://peoplepropertyplace.com/ | |||
| Will Rowson, Founder of Newland Capital Partners – Reinventing Through Every Cycle | 03 Nov 2025 | 00:56:20 | |
What does it take to stay relevant through four decades, across every market cycle, and still have the hunger to build something new? This week, I sat down with Will Rowson, Founder of Newland Capital Partners, to unpack his 35-year journey across global real estate — from gritty East London industrial estates to leading Europe's largest investment platform — and what it really takes to adapt, evolve, and keep learning. Will's career includes senior roles as EMEA CIO at CBRE Investment Management, Equity Partner at Hodes Weill, and CEO of Global Student Accommodation (GSA), where he helped raise over $2 billion in equity. Now, through Newland Capital Partners, he advises leading European managers on capital strategy, equity raising, and navigating a market in flux. We discuss the power of reinvention, lessons from leadership, and where he believes opportunity lies in the "living" and logistics sectors over the next cycle. Key Topics Covered In This Episode: ✅ From Strutt & Parker to CBRE — Lessons from the early days of valuation and leasing ✅ Across the Cycles — What 35 years in European real estate has taught him about timing ✅ Facing Cancer — How a life-changing diagnosis reshaped his outlook and leadership ✅ The Squeezed Middle — Why mid-sized fund managers must adapt or consolidate ✅ Continuation Funds — What they reveal about today's market ✅ Living & Logistics — Why these two sectors still offer the best risk-adjusted returns
Oh, and one last thing… In every episode, I ask each guest: Who are the People, what Property, and which Place they'd invest in if they had £500 million at their disposal? Will's answer was pragmatic, data-driven — and full of hard-won perspective 👌
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| #140 James Craig, Co-Founder of Oval Real Estate | 28 Aug 2025 | 00:51:44 | |
James Craig, Co-Founder of Oval Real Estate, joins me on the People Property Place Podcast this week. We discuss James's journey from surveying to running a diversified real estate investment business. He reflects on pivotal career decisions, key deals, and the thinking behind Oval's sector-agnostic strategy. James shares lessons from launching Oval in a down market, building high-trust partnerships, and navigating complex development and regeneration projects. He also gives his view on current market dynamics, the role of public-private collaboration, and what it takes to build a successful, enduring real estate business. If you're interested in real estate entrepreneurship, platform-building, public-sector partnership, or value-add investing, this episode is for you. Key Topics Covered in This Episode: · Betting on Fit Over Convention · Why he walked away from his APC and corporate surveying path early, in favour of an entrepreneurial property trading-led environment. · Skill stacking – how he learned to originate, manage, and exit deals across Europe · Reality of trying, (unsuccessfully) to match deals with capital, and the lessons learnt · Oval's origin story, approach to business, investment thesis and partnership philosophy · How they have pivoted during market cycles, and have deliberately avoided single-sector exposure. · Inside scoop on what it takes to have a successful public & private partnership · We discuss key deals, from Digbeth and the Langham Estate to Mayfair offices and the £900m Henderson portfolio · Message to would-be founders: "Don't wait. It doesn't matter if it's a good or bad market. You've just got to go for it." And finally... With £500m to invest, which People, what Property, and which Place would he choose? Enjoying the show? Follow and turn on notifications so you never miss an episode. The People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne: Giving real estate investors a difficult choice, who to hire. If you're serious about hiring top real estate talent in 2025 and want to do it differently, DM me on LinkedIn. #realestate #property #podcast #regeneration #realestateinvestment #placemaking #offices #birmingham #london | |||
| #50 Robert Wolstenholme, Founder of Trilogy Real Estate LLP | 30 Nov 2023 | 01:06:52 | |
Robert Wolstenholme Founder of Trilogy Real Estate LLP Trilogy is a UK-focused investment and development management business Robert set up in 2015. He is a charismatic, creative and ideas-driven founder and a top thought leader in the education and innovation real estate space.He started his career at JLL before moving to Resolution Property where he held the title of Investment Director. Robert has a degree in Architecture from the Bartlett School of Architecture, UCL and a qualification in Chartered Surveying (MRICS), as well as a diploma in Finance from the Securities Institute. I sat down with Robert to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
How he got into real estate Why the business is called Trilogy Creating creative destinations Building educational institutions for the talent of tomorrow Opportunities in the market FOCUS - being an inch wide mile deep investor Raising money
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| #49 Tobias Evans, Founding Partner and Chief Investment Officer at Blue Noble LLP | 23 Nov 2023 | 01:10:53 | |
Tobias Evans, Founding Partner and Chief Investment Officer at Blue Noble LLP. Blue Noble was founded in 2017 by a team of experienced real estate professionals from HSBC Alternative Investments - During their tenure with HSBC, the team transacted in and managed over $5 billion of real estate assets across the US, Europe and Asia. Blue Noble offers specialist real estate investment management, through club deals, segregated accounts and funds on a global basis. Toby's role here is focused on delivering bespoke investment opportunities, strategic business development, managing existing client relationships, and sourcing new capital. Toby started his career at Knight frank, having graduated from both the university of Bristol, having studied Mechanical engineering and Cass Business school where he picked up his MA in Property Valuation and Law. I sat down with Toby to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
What is the difference between a single and multi-family office? Dealing with HNWI as clients Challenges setting up a business What is marriage value Getting comparable evidence as a first mover How he got into real estate Opportunities in the market Naming the business
Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place would Toby invest should he have £500m of capital at his disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Spotify, Apple and Youtube from Thursday this week. The People Property Place Podcast 🎙 is powered by Rockbourne Who do you want to see on the Podcast? Link in the comments below 👇🏻 #podcast #realestate #property #peoplepropertyplace
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| #48 Tyler Goodwin, Founder & CEO of Seaforth Land | 16 Nov 2023 | 01:10:16 | |
Tyler Goodwin, the Founder and CEO of Seaforth Land. Tyler has 30 years of global real estate experience and has worked in property development, advisory, investment banking, principal investment, and investment management, and has lived and worked in North America, Asia and Europe. He has held positions at firms including – JP Morgan, Deutsche Bank, Urban Land Capital, Lodha and set Seaforth Land up in 2015 to revitalise iconic buildings and resalise inspiring schemes, with a focus on central London commercial real estate. I sat down with Tyler to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: Working overseas Working across agency, principal investment, lending and operator side Learnings from global crashes Repurposing real estate Setting up Seaforth Land Earning the commute Retrofit & refurbishment Having a fiduciary duty to investors
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| #47 Hugo Llewelyn, Founder & CEO of Newcore Capital Management LLP | 09 Nov 2023 | 01:06:15 | |
People Property Place Podcast Hugo Llewelyn – Founder & CEO of Newcore Capital Management LLP Newcore is a specialist investor in social infrastructure real estate in the UK and it invests in assets that are integral to society's needs. The business was founded with a belief that capital managers can provide strong returns for investors and intentionally create a positive impact for people and the planet. Hugo is answerable to all Newcore's stakeholders for managing the business and its investment strategy, including achieving the objectives of each of its separate account and co-mingled fund clients. Prior to Newcore, Hugo was co-founder and Head of Investment at Protego Real Estate Investors, which was set up in 2004 and sold to Cornerstone Real Estate Advisers (now Barings) in 2010. I sat down with Hugo to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
How he got into real estate Creating investment thesis' Fund raising Changes in the capital management space Balancing good business and social value Learnings from his first business Social infrastructure investment Distributing 10% of company profits to charity
Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Hugo would invest should he have £500m of capital at his disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Spotify, Apple and Youtube from Thursday this week.
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| #46 James Lass, Head of Operational Real Estate, Swiss Life Asset Managers UK | 02 Nov 2023 | 01:00:15 | |
James Lass, Head of Operational Real Estate, Swiss Life Asset Managers UK Swiss Life Asset Managers has more than 125 years' of experience as a real estate investment manager in Europe. In the UK, they provide three principal investment services to a broad investor base – UK Core funds, UK Separate Accounts and Joint Ventures and UK Value add Strategies. Prior to joining Swiss Life James worked at Schroder's as a Fund Manager responsible for the Schroder UK Real Estate Fund. He started his career at Allsop, before moving to Savills. I sat down with James to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
Operational real estate View on the market Where values lie Growth areas Advice he would give to those entering the market Taking risks in your career Closing the skill gap – moving from agency to the principal side Role of a Fund Manager
Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place would James invest should he have £500m of capital at his disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Spotify, Apple and Youtube from Thursday this week. The People Property Place Podcast 🎙 is powered by Rockbourne Who do you want to see on the Podcast? Link in the comments below #podcast #realestate #property #peoplepropertyplace | |||
| #45 Sarah Jones, Head of Asset Management at Brightbay Real Estate Partners | 26 Oct 2023 | 00:59:26 | |
Sarah Jones – Head of Asset Management at Brightbay Real Estate Partners Sarah has 15 years of experience in real estate and has worked at Brightbay Real Estate Partners, formally RDI REIT since July 2015. She specialises in creative hands-on asset management in a range of commercial real estate sectors. Prior to this she was at ExxonMobil where she worked across EMEA looking at innovative solutions to the real estate needs of the company. Sarah started her career at DTZ completing her qualification with experience in valuations and corporate recovery. I sat down with Sarah to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
How she got into real estate Early career moves & learnings Differences between working for a REIT & Private Equity Business Active asset Management Benefits of working with a career coach Winning Gold at the World Cup How focusing on your strengths is a winning strategy
Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place would Sarah invest should she have £500m of capital at her disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Spotify, Apple and Youtube from Thursday this week. The People Property Place Podcast 🎙 is powered by Rockbourne Who do you want to see on the Podcast? Link in the comments below #podcast #realestate #property #peoplepropertyplace | |||
| #44 Ian Marcus OBE, Senior Adviser, Eastdil Secured | 19 Oct 2023 | 00:52:56 | |
People Property Place Podcast Ian Marcus OBE – Senior Adviser, Eastdil Secured Ian is a graduate of the University of Cambridge having studied Land Economy. Since then, he has held roles at Bank of America, UBS, NatWest, Deutsche and Credit Suisse. He currently sits on the board of 12 companies – everyone from Eastdill Secured, Elysian Residences, Town Centre Securities PLC, Work.life, Shurguard Self-Storage along with a number of others outside the real estate world. I sat down with Ian to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: How he got into real estate People, People, People Network & relationships Risk aversion Job selection criteria Capital structures Balancing 12 jobs! Opportunities in the market Favourite deals Real estate heroes
Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Ian would invest should he have £500m of equity at his disposal.
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| #43 Stuart Mitchell, Managing Director, Group Property at The Jockey Club | 12 Oct 2023 | 00:59:38 | |
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Stuart is responsible for all real estate investment, asset and development management across The Jockey Club's multi-billion pound portfolio. Prior to this Stuart was a Director and Head of Third Party Asset Management at NewRiver REIT, and he started his career at BNP Paribas. How he got into real estate Early career moves Why he moved to the Jockey Club Asset class transferable skills Managing work / family life Opportunities in the portfolio Growth plans Managing risk
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| #42 Jacob Sandelson, Founder of Compound | 05 Oct 2023 | 01:09:52 | |
People Property Place Podcast Jacob Sandelson – Founder of Compound Compound is an owner-operator with significant firepower raised from a prominent family office and will be targeting a trio of operational asset classes spanning 'consumer industrial' – self storage, open storage and multi-let industrial. Prior to Founding Compound, Jacob was the CEO and Co-Founder of General People, a specialist operator of serviced office and multi let light industrial workspace. Prior to this he was a Principal at General Projects where he led the acquisition, development and management of the properties that General People operate. Jacob started his career at leading residential developer, Galliard Homes.
I sat down with Jacob to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: How he got into real estate Upskilling outside of his day job Importance of network / asking for advice Capital Raising Macro trends and creating micro strategies Operational real estateHow he went about starting his business Investment criteria
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| #41 Sascha Lewin, Founder & CEO of WRE | 28 Sep 2023 | 01:06:32 | |
Sascha Lewin, Founder & CEO of WRE. With over 20 years of commercial real estate experience Sascha founded WRE in 2013 with a clear focus on value added investment opportunities that improve the spaces we work, play and live in. Prior to establishing W RE Sascha was a partner at Stenham Property, a real estate PE fund where he managed value-added strategies with a volume in excess of £1.5bn across Germany, USA, Switzerland and the UK. I sat down with Sascha to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: How he got into real estate Reality of starting a business What came first – business plan, assets, money? Having conviction in your strategy yet enough humility to pivot State of the market Office management agreements What he is excited about
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| #139 Kevin Mofid, Head of Industrial & Logistics Research at Savills | 21 Aug 2025 | 01:11:30 | |
Kevin Mofid, Head of Industrial & Logistics Research at Savills, joins me on the People Property Place Podcast 🎙️ this week. We discuss his journey into real estate, the evolution of research in the sector, and key insights into the UK and European logistics markets. Kevin shares his data-driven view of market trends, rental growth dynamics, build-to-suit versus existing stock, and the increasing importance of supply-side fundamentals when making investment decisions. If you're active in the industrial or logistics real estate market across the UK & Europe, and you're interested in data-driven decision-making, or the forces shaping demand and supply in the sector, this episode is for you. Key Topics Covered in This Episode: · Kevin's unconventional path into real estate, and his pivotal early career moves · The evolution of research from a back-office function to a front-line, strategic, in demand tool · What the UK logistics data is really showing, and why build-to-suit deals are under pressure · Rising vacancy in a market with strong demand, and what that disconnect tells us · Speculative development trends, and how they're shaping short-term supply risks · Why second-hand stock is growing fast, and how much of it is actually usable · The real drivers of industrial demand, and why retail still dominates · Nearshoring, reshoring, and how they are reshaping long-term European strategy · Rental growth that's defying historic vacancy relationships, and why · The evolving role of AI in warehousing and supply chain decision-making · Why smart investors are prioritising supply-side data over demand forecasts · Kevin's take on the biggest risk facing the sector today, and the data point he's watching most closely Enjoying the show? Follow and turn on notifications so you never miss an episode. The People Property Place Podcast 🎙️ is powered by Rockbourne: Giving real estate investors a difficult choice, who to hire. If you're serious about hiring top real estate talent in 2025 and want to do it differently, DM me on LinkedIn. #realestate #property #podcast #logistics #data #industrial | |||
| #40 Rob West, Managing Partner & Co-Founder, Clearbell Capital | 21 Sep 2023 | 01:08:59 | |
Rob West – Managing Partner & Co-Founder Clearbell Capital Robs specific responsibilities are for developing new business and deal origination and he is also a member of the Investment Committee and Head of the ESG Committee. Over his 30 years in the real estate industry, he has been involved in the leasing, investment, and asset management of approximately £2.5 billion of UK property. I sat down with Rob to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: How he got into real estate Operational real estate – PBSA, SFH, Self-Storage Capital raising + types of capital Importance of network Learnings from downturns Attack vs Defence How to stand out in an interview Future strategies + plans
Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Rob would invest should he have £500m of equity at his disposal. | |||
| #39 Claire Dawe, Head of Asset Management, Stanhope. | 14 Sep 2023 | 01:02:48 | |
Claire Dawe – Head of Asset Management, Stanhope. Claire joined Stanhope in September 2018 from Grosvenor Britain & Ireland where she lead the Asset Management team for the Belgravia portfolio. At Stanhope she leads the Asset Management team which is responsible for a portfolio of just under 6 million sq ft and £4bn of assets under management. As well as her day job Claire is also a Mentor for Stanhope-backed initiative Mentoring Circle. I sat down with Claire to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: The role of real estate in talent acquisition Landlords serving occupiers Shifting from Asset Manager to running a team of Asset Managers Innovation real estate The board you can't afford Hiring into your team Complex real estate Mentoring circle
Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Claire would invest should she have £500m of equity at her disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Spotify and Apple from Thursday this week. The People Property Place Podcast ? is powered by Rockbourne. Who do you want to see on the Podcast? Link in the comments below
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| #38 Chris Webb, Co-founder and Executive Board Director of Firethorn Trust | 07 Sep 2023 | 01:05:48 | |
Chris Webb – Co-founder and Executive Board Director of Firethorn Trust. Firethorn presently runs two strategies, their Industrial & Logistics team is focused on developing market-leading, sustainable spaces across the UK and their Living team is committed to delivering high-quality PBSA and BTR buildings. Chris co-leads on strategic direction and decision-making, and is responsible for overseeing Firethorn's asset and investment portfolio, and its finance operations. Before setting up Firethorn, Chris was Head of UK and Ireland Asset & Portfolio Management at Tristan Capital Partners, managing its UK portfolio of over £2bn. Chris has also worked at Rockspring Property Investment Managers LLP and Cushman & Wakefield. I sat down with Chris to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: How he got into real estate How he got into real estate Early career experience Setting up Firethorn Trust Adjusting the strategy 6 months in Keeping this simple Setting up a living platform Oh and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Chris would invest should he have £500m of equity at his disposal.
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| #37 Artem Korolev, Founder & CEO at Mission Street | 31 Aug 2023 | 01:06:41 | |
Artem Korolev - Founder & CEO at Mission Street. Mission Street is a specialist investor, operator and developer focused on the delivery of creative solutions for the evolving Science and Innovation sector. Mission Street have a rapidly growing development portfolio, with more than 1.3m sq ft of committed projects in strategic locations within Oxford, Cambridge and Bristol. Artem founded Mission Street in 2017 and leads the Mission Street team, with overall responsibility for the company's investment activities and delivery of its rapidly growing portfolio. He was previously Head of UK Acquisitions and a member of the founding team of BentallGreenOak. I sat down with Artem to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: Innovation Real Estate Reality of starting a business Becoming a niche specialist Assembling an advisory board Gaining LP & GP experience Building propriety data Oh and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Artem would invest should he have £500m of equity at his disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Spotify and Apple from Thursday this week. People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne Who do you want to see on the Podcast?
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| #36 Richard Saul, Head of Asset Management and Development in the UK at Ivanhoé Cambridge | 24 Aug 2023 | 01:12:48 | |
Richard Saul - Head of Asset Management and Development in the UK at Ivanhoé Cambridge. Ivanhoé Cambridge develops and invests internationally alongside strategic partners and major real estate funds across dynamic cities around the world. Through subsidiaries and partnerships, the company holds interests in 1,500 buildings, primarily in the industrial and logistics, office, residential and retail sectors. As of 31st December 2022 Ivanhoé Cambridge held $77 billion CAD worth of Real Estate. Richard is responsible for driving value across Ivanhoe Cambridges UK portfolio. He has previously held roles at Lendlease, HB Reavis and CIT. I sat down with Richard to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: How he got into real estate Skill stacking Different real estate business models What is a "Green IRR" Working with JV / Operating partners Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Richard would invest should he have £500m of equity at his disposal.
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| #35 Nneka Ejindu, Senior Asset Manager at LaSalle Investment Management. | 17 Aug 2023 | 01:03:12 | |
Nneka Ejindu- Senior Asset Manager - LaSalle Investment Management. Nneka was responsible for the proactive asset management and asset transformation of business space (primarily offices and industrial) assets in the London & South East of England. As well as driving results across various portfolios she manages she is passionate about Diversity, Equity and Inclusion. I sat down with Nneka to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: How she got into real estate Disappointing her family with her career choice Early career moves Reverse mentorship Changes in the industry Asset management Diversity, Equity & Inclusion Oh and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Nneka would invest should she have £500m of equity at her disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Youtube, Spotify and Apple from Thursday this week. People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne. | |||
| #34 Oliver Knight - Head of Workplace at Landsec | 10 Aug 2023 | 01:05:52 | |
Oliver Knight - Head of Workplace at Landsec.
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| #33 Karolis Adlis - International Investments Executive Director at WP Carey | 03 Aug 2023 | 00:58:12 | |
Listed on the New York Stock Exchange, W. P. Carey is one of the largest diversified net lease REITs, specializing in the acquisition of operationally critical, single-tenant properties in North America and Europe. Karolis worked in banking and has held roles at UBS and Jefferies before moving to WP Carey in 2015. He has responsibility for Sale-Leaseback, Build-to-Suit Finance and Net-Lease Acquisitions across Europe. I sat down with Karolis to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: How he got into Real Estate
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| #32 Jessica Piltz - Head of Sustainable Investing, Private Markets at Fiera Capital | 27 Jul 2023 | 00:59:10 | |
Jessica Piltz - Head of Sustainable Investing, Private Markets at Fiera Capital.
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| #31 Chris Hunt, Co-Founder & Director at V7 | 20 Jul 2023 | 00:56:19 | |
V7 is a creative and forward-thinking asset and development management company, passionate about transforming mismanaged office buildings or sites into dynamic, highly sustainable service-led workspaces.
Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Chris would invest should he have £500m of equity at his disposal?
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| #138 Philip Stott, Co-Founder of Caisson IO | 14 Aug 2025 | 01:18:30 | |
Philip Stott, Co-Founder of Caisson IO, joins me on the People Property Place Podcast this week. We discuss his early career journey to co-founding Caisson IO, a boutique investment management firm that integrates data and technology to, invest and manage multi-let industrial assets across the UK. Philip shares valuable insights on the role of data in real estate, building a tech-enabled investment platform, and how their approach to asset management has evolved. If you're interested in real estate investment management, data-driven strategies, or scaling a specialised platform in the industrial sector, this episode is for you.
Key Topics Covered in This Episode: · Early exposure to real estate and how Philip's family business influenced his entrepreneurial mindset · How Philip's career evolved from traditional surveying to tech sales and then pivoting into investment management · Insights from his experience at Yardi, including building their European platform and understanding financial systems and applying this learing to the investment management space · How they launched the business - raising capital from friends and family · How data-driven insights help Caisson IO identify market trends and opportunities in multi-let industrial assets · The resilience and appeal of multi-let industrial assets as a stable income-generating asset class · Building a strong, collaborative team and fostering a culture of empowerment for business growth · Caisson IO's plans for future growth, leveraging specialixed expertise and data-backed strategies
And finally... With £500m to invest, which People, what Property, and which Place would Philip choose? Enjoying the show? Follow and turn on notifications so you never miss an episode. The People Property Place Podcast 🎙️ is powered by Rockbourne: Giving real estate investors a difficult choice, who to hire. If you're serious about hiring top real estate talent in 2025 and want to do it differently, DM me on LinkedIn. | |||
| #30 Hugh Macdonald Brown, Co-Founder and CEO of Roebuck | 06 Jul 2023 | 01:16:57 | |
Roebuck is an an institutional grade pan-European real estate logistics investor who identify and create investment strategies across the risk spectrum, including core, core + and value add. Their current portfolio spans 7 countries, with more than 100 assets and a value in excess of €2.6bn. Hugh is a graduate of Cass Business School (now Bayes) and started his career at BNP Paribas – he has since transacted more than €3.25bn within the logistics sector and has key relationships with the key investors, occupiers, developers and lenders in all of Roebucks target markets. I sat down with Hugh to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
Oh and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Hugh would invest should he have £500m of equity at his disposal. Catch the newest episode on Spotify and Apple Podcast every Thursday. Who do you want to see on the Podcast? The People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne. If you're loving what you hear, we kindly ask you to take a moment and show your support by leaving a rating and review for the People Property Place podcast. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ | |||
| #29 Tom Larsson, Founder of Grow Places | 22 Jun 2023 | 00:53:44 | |
Grow Places are a creative and compassionate property developer and development manager who build long term relationships to unlock complex problems found in the built environment, focused on future trends and design excellence. They bring fairness and compassion to the development process for all stakeholders, combining a growth mindset and approach. Tom has worked in real estate since 2009, initially as an architect before moving to Stanhope where he spent 10 years working on some incredible schemes as a Development Director and latterly Design Director. He set Grow Places up in March 2023, along with launching his Podcast, People Grow Places and a foundation called The Grow Foundation. I sat down with Tom to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
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| #28 Wajeha Qureshi, Associate Director at Cadillac Fairview | 15 Jun 2023 | 01:05:43 | |
Cadillac Fairview is a globally focused owner, operator, investor, and developer of best-in-class real estate across retail, office, residential, industrial and mixed-use asset classes. Wholly owned by the Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan, CF manages in excess of $40 billion of assets across the Americas, Europe, and Asia. In the past couple of years, Cadillac's landmark European investments have included establishing a €3bn logistics joint venture with Boreal IM, investing into a £1.5bn BTR partnership led by Long Harbour Ltd, and buying into a £700m pound life sciences project - Oxford North and acquiring a stake in Stanhope PLC. Wajeha is a graduate of both Cornell University and Harvard University – where she studied a Bachelor of Architecture and a Masters in Real Estate Finance. She has held roles at leading real estate institutions such as GIC and Hines, and her work has taken her across the USA and Europe. I sat down with Wajeha to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
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| #27 Anne Copeland, Co-Head of Social Infrastructure at Alpha Real | 08 Jun 2023 | 01:12:55 | |
Alpha is a specialist real assets investment manager focused on secure income strategies with over £4 billion of assets under management. They invest in UK and European assets with predictable secure long term cash flows – these investments cover commercial ground rents, UK renewable infrastructure, social real estate and secured lending, combining operational real estate expertise and fixed income skills. Anne is an experienced fund manager and has worked at Aegon Asset Management, Aviva and Schroders in one guise or another. She studied Land Management and Development at Reading University and is a Chartered Surveyor, and even finds the time to sit on the AREF Corporate Governance Committee. I sat down with Anne to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
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| #26 Bert Broadhead, Co-Founder of ALTERX Real Estate | 01 Jun 2023 | 00:52:14 | |
Bert Broadhead has worked for a number of leading firms from DTZ, Rockspring as well as Och-Ziff Capital Management before setting up Alterx in 2014 as a 'value investor' focused on the Western European real estate market. Today, the business operates in three countries and controls over 2m sqft of commercial assets and over 30,000 residential plots. Bert is also the host of a real estate podcast – Building Our Future. I sat down with Bert to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
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| #25 Issie Armstrong, Director - Global Alternatives Specialists at DWS Group | 25 May 2023 | 01:10:49 | |
The DWS Group (DWS) – formally Deutsche Asset Management is one of the worlds leading asset managers and currently boasts €841bn of assets under management. Issie studied Real Estate at the Royal Agricultural University before joining Deutsche Bank as an Analyst. She has since held roles at Eden Rock Group, LaSalle, Aviva Investors, and her experience spans investment, investment specialist, real estate development and asset management. Outside of work, Issie is a passionate Mentor for Moving Ahead and GAIN two social impact organisations advancing workplace inclusion and diversity. In 2021 Issie was a finalist in the Investment Weeks Woman of the Year award. I sat down with Issie to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
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| #24 Paul O'Grady, Portfolio Director for the London Estate at Grosvenor | 18 May 2023 | 00:47:03 | |
Paul is responsible for the strategy, placemaking, stakeholder management, capital allocation and strategic direction of the London Estate. He has previously held roles in investment, asset management and portfolio management across Grosvenor Europe and has managed three cross-border retail funds on behalf of various international investors, and he also set up Grosvenor's Stockholm Office. Paul is a Scholar at Christ's College, Cambridge. He holds an MSc in Real Estate Investment and Finance from the University of Reading. He is a Member of the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors. I sat down with Paul to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
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| #23 Johan Eriksson, Co-Founder of Oryx Real Estate Partners | 04 May 2023 | 00:44:34 | |
Johan set the business up with partner Fawaz AlRajhi in 2019 to provide international investors, typically from the GCC region, direct access to UK and European real estate investment opportunities, asset management and advisory services. Prior to setting up the business Johan was the Head of International Real Estate at AlRajhi United, managing a multi sector real estate portfolio across the US, UK, continental Europe and the UAE. Johan has held senior positions with several real estate private equity fund managers such as Benson Elliot and Queensgate Investments, having started his career in the real estate investment banking team of Merrill Lynch in London. I sat down with Johan to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
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| #22 Ben Segelman, Global Capital Markets Lead & Real Estate Solutions at DHL Supply Chain | 20 Apr 2023 | 00:53:48 | |
Ben leads the team at DHL Supply Chain, tasked with stepping up its acquisition, disposal and development programme. Previously Ben was Managing Director at Round Hill Capital, building its logistics platform. He has experience across all the major asset classes and has held asset management, fund management and investment positions throughout his career spanning the UK, European and Global markets. I sat down with Ben to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
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| #21 Lloyd Lee, Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Yoo Capital | 06 Apr 2023 | 00:49:55 | |
Lloyd Lee is the Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Yoo Capital. He has over 24 years of experience in real estate private equity and principal investing and has been involved in £12 billion of real estate acquisitions, public and private corporate opportunities, special situations and asset management turnarounds across the UK, Europe, US and emerging markets. He graduated from both Harvard and Cornell University and has worked at Starwood Capital and Marathon Asset Management before setting up Yoo Capital with serial entrepreneur, John Hitchcox. I sat down with Lloyd to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
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| #137 Philip Gadsden - Managing Partner at Orchard Street Investment Management | 07 Aug 2025 | 01:16:17 | |
Philip Gadsden, Managing Partner at Orchard Street Investment Management, joins me on the People Property Place Podcast 🎙️ this week. We cover his 40+ year career in institutional real estate - from Jones Lang Wootton and Gatehouse, to building Invista, and now leading Orchard Street's shift into impact investing. We get into his views on separate accounts, discretionary capital, asset-level execution, decarbonisation, and the evolution of investor expectations. If you're interested in UK fund management and real estate's shift toward ESG and impact, this one's for you. Key Topics Covered in This Episode:
And finally... With £500m to invest, which People, what Property, and which Place would Philip choose? Enjoying the show? Follow and turn on notifications so you never miss an episode. The People Property Place Podcast 🎙️ is powered by Rockbourne: Giving real estate investors a difficult choice of who to hire. If you're serious about hiring top real estate talent in 2025 and want to do it differently, DM me on LinkedIn, lets talk!
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| #20 Vanessa Davey, Equity Partner at Quadrant | 30 Mar 2023 | 01:03:33 | |
Quadrant work with a variety of best in class LP's from KKR, Tristan, Aimco, Blackrock and Oaktree and invest in UK real estate assets across the risk spectrum, with a focus on managing, repurposing and developing offices, out of town retail and leisure assets. Vanessa has worked at the business since 2014 from CBRE and has had a meteoric rise up the ranks. I sat down with Vanessa to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
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| #19 Ainslie McLennan, Managing Director and Head of U.K. Balanced Funds at Nuveen | 23 Mar 2023 | 01:05:52 | |
Ainslie joined Henderson Global Investors in 2002 and remains with the business today having gained extensive experience running commercial property mandates investing in the U.K. and European markets. In 2016, Ainslie was recognised by City A.M., as one of the city's 100 most influential women. She was short-listed for Investment Week's "Fund Manager of the Year" in 2017, Janus Henderson U.K. Property PAIF received the Portfolio Adviser Platinum Award in January 2018. I sat down with Ainslie to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
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| #18 Andrew Ferguson, Executive Development Director of LCR Property | 16 Mar 2023 | 00:57:46 | |
Andrew has had two careers – first with the RAF as a helicopter pilot, and secondly in the Real Estate Development world working at Skanska before moving to LCR Property. At LCR he is an executive board member with national P&L responsibility for their development and property portfolio. He has oversight and leadership of 30+ staff to motivate and the delivery of 50+ projects. I sat down with Andrew to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
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| #17 Michael Whitney, Director of Areli Living | 09 Mar 2023 | 00:55:09 | |
Set up in 2022 by Andrea Vanni – in a 50:50 joint venture with Invel Real Estate, Areli Living is making a push into the UK real estate market. Michael's experience spans direct investment, asset management, and development of both residential and commercial real estate and he also has extensive experience across equity and debt funding covering all asset classes. I sat down with Michael to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
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| #16 Alex Kim, Director of Workplace The Crown Estate | 02 Mar 2023 | 00:53:27 | |
Alex Kim is Director of Workplace at the Crown Estate. Here he is responsible for the entire Central London Workplace Portfolio 2.5m+ sqft. Alex is responsible for refurbishment, and development of the workplace assets as well as developing The Crown Estate's workplace product line to ensure it is fit for use in the ever-changing market. Alex started his Real Estate career as a leasing agent, before moving to the principal side in an Asset Management capacity. I sat down with Alex to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
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| #15 Ekaterina Avdonina, CEO & Co-Founder at Mirastar Real Estate Investment Management Limited | 23 Feb 2023 | 00:54:18 | |
Ekaterina set the business up alongside Anthony Butler in 2019 with a vision to create a new pan-European business dedicated to the development, investment, and management of logistics assets across key metropolitan areas in Europe. The team has grown rapidly to over 34 people, across 5 European offices with £bn's AUM. In 2018 Biz now profiled Ekaterina in their top 51 most influential women in UK real estate, calling her The Queen of Sheds…. I sat down with Ekaterina to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
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| #14 Zac Goodman, Founder of TSP | 16 Feb 2023 | 01:15:55 | |
TSP is a vertically integrated Real Estate Investment Company with an award-winning property management capability. Their mission is to build an investment business that remains relevant to its time and place. One that chooses rehabilitation over ruin. Partnerships over rivalries. Responsibility over excuses. Zac studied Politics at Nottingham University before joining Goldman Sachs as a Graduate. Since leaving Goldman he has gone on to set up multiple real estate ventures. I sat down with Zac to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
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| #13 Jon Strang, Managing Director of Blackbrook Capital | 09 Feb 2023 | 00:59:13 | |
Blackbrook Capital is a specialist real estate investment firm focusing on future-proof supply chain infrastructure across Europe. The team behind Blackbrook has a combined real estate investment track record of deploying over 20 billion Euros in more than 20 countries across Europe and North America. Jon Strang joined Blackbrook Capital in September 2020 from the logistics investor Clarion Gramercy, where he was a Vice President. Prior to this, he was an Investment Banking Analyst at JP Morgan having graduated from Oxford University with an MEng in Engineering Science. I sat down with Jon to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
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| #12 James Farmer, Co-Founder of Boreal Investment Management | 02 Feb 2023 | 00:47:55 | |
Headquartered in London, Boreal is an opportunity driven investment manager with a current focus on logistics and light-industrial properties across Europe. Set up in 2022, it is led by its founding partners former Blackstone, TPG and Europa execs who secured €1bn of equity from Canadian pension giant Cadillac Fairview, with a plan to create a €3bn pan European portfolio. I sat down with James to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
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| #11 Nick Blackburn, Co-Founder & Partner of Blue Current Capital | 26 Jan 2023 | 01:02:35 | |
Blue Current Capital is an ESG-focused real estate investor, developer, and operator enabling and accelerating the electrification of commercial fleets across the UK and Continental Europe.
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| #136 Marcus Meijer - Founder and CEO of MARK | 31 Jul 2025 | 01:19:39 | |
Marcus Meijer, Founder and CEO of MARK, joins me on the People Property Place Podcast 🎙️ this week. We talk through his journey from third-generation developer to building one of Europe's leading independent investment managers. We get into how Marcus thinks about platform creation, market timing, team building, and where he sees the next wave of opportunity. If you're interested in real estate private equity, specialist strategies, or scaling across Europe, this one's for you.
Key Topics Covered in This Episode: · Growing up around real estate and what he learned from early exposure to market cycles · Lessons from Hines and Goldman Sachs that shaped how he builds teams and makes decisions · The origins of MARK and how they raised their first fund · Pivoting away from generalist value-add funds and toward sector-specific platforms · How they built VR Outlets into a €1bn+ platform with APG and Value Retail · Lessons learnt from Crossbay 1 and the validation from the sale to Prologis, and plans for Crossbay 2 · How winning third-party mandates leverage the existing teams' skills, and generate fees while giving MARK an investment edge · His take on the market, the challenges, opportunities and future of real estate · What success looks like to Marcus and how he thinks about legacy and ownership
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| #10 Audrey Klein, Board Member SFO Capital Partners & Planet Smart City | 19 Jan 2023 | 00:30:32 | |
Audrey Klein has 25 years of global real estate experience – she has run her own business, held positions at Blackstone, Cromwell Property Group, Kennedy Wilson where she has raised £bn's of equity. Passionate about ESG and impact investing she is a UK founding member of WIRE - an organization dedicated to providing a networking venue for women in the private equity real estate business. Audrey currently serves on the board at SFO Capital Partners and Planet Smart City and the Corporate Board for Great Ormond Street hospital where she has served for the last 11 years. We sat down for a time-pressured, but very enjoyable conversation where we discussed the following:
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| #9 Bianca Tristao, Co-founder Coleford Capital | 12 Jan 2023 | 00:46:46 | |
Coleford Capital is a UK & European focused real estate investment and asset management business dedicated to building and managing bespoke portfolios that meet our clients' requirements, whilst guided by our experience, knowledge and insight of the real estate market. Before launching Coleford Capital, Bianca Tristao was a Senior Investment Manager at a European real estate Asset Manager where she was responsible for sourcing, underwriting and executing UK and European investment opportunities. Prior to this Bianca worked for Knight Frank. Bianca has worked across all major sectors in property on both the consulting and client sides, with a particular focus on transaction and asset management. I sat down with Bianca to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics:
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| #8 Lucy Gordon, Director Farley Cove | 10 Nov 2022 | 00:25:32 | |
Lucy is the Founder of Farley Cove, a London-based Real Estate consultancy offering bespoke financial modelling expertise, debt advisory and transaction assistance.
Having started her property career in 2012 working at Mountgrange Investment Management (later to become Clearbell Capital) Lucy specialises in financial modelling, acquisitions, and debt financing, including creating and maintaining excellent banking relationships.
Since launching Farley Cove, Lucy has helped start-ups, established investors, and M&A specialists create robust financial forecasts and provided invaluable support throughout the investment cycle.
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