Welcome to "Peaceable and Kind," the podcast where we explore the transformative power of living out Jesus' call to peace and kindness in our everyday lives. Each week your host, Derek Vreeland, will delve into the stories, Scriptures, and practical steps that help us embody these essential Christian virtues.
Join us as we talk with inspiring guests, reflect on Scripture, and discover ways to bring peace and kindness into our homes, communities, and the world. Whether you're seeking encouragement, guidance, or a deeper understanding of your faith, "Peaceable and Kind" is here to support and uplift you on your spiritual journey.
Let's embark together on this path of grace, compassion, and love, living out the true essence of our faith. Thank you for tuning in, and may the peace of God be with you always.
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Episode 104: Why Tolkien Still Matters for Christian Faith
Episode 104
Thursday, May 28, 2026 • Duration 49:43
In this episode of Peaceable and Kind, Derek Vreeland continues the journey into Tolkien’s world this time joined by longtime friend and guest Walter Rogero. Together, they explore why The Lord of the Rings and Tolkien’s broader legendarium continue to matter for Christian faith today.
Walter brings both pastoral experience and deep familiarity with Tolkien’s writings, offering insight into how Middle-earth functions not just as a story, but as a world shaped by a distinctly Christian imagination stepped in the virtues and values of the Middle Ages.
The conversation also explores the role of imagination, story, and myth in shaping a mature and resilient faith. Derek and Walter reflect on their shared spiritual journeys from Pentecostal/charismatic roots into a deeper appreciation for liturgical traditions and how Tolkien’s work has brought them both enjoyed and helped form a richer imagination for the work of God in the world.
This episode is an invitation to see Tolkien not as an escape from reality but as a way of seeing reality more clearly.
Key Takeaways
• Tolkien’s work reflects a deeply Christian vision without relying on direct allegory.
• Imagination, myth, and story play a vital role in shaping mature faith.
• Tolkien helps recover a sense of mystery, beauty, and moral depth often missing in modern faith expressions.
• Spiritual formation is shaped not only by doctrine, but by the stories we inhabit.
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Episode 103: Questioning the Just War Assumption
Episode 103
Thursday, May 21, 2026 • Duration 37:56
In this episode of Peaceable and Kind, Derek Vreeland reflects on the ongoing reality of war and offers a thoughtful critique of Just War Theory, a framework long embraced by both Catholic and Protestant traditions.
Beginning with the classical principles of Just War as articulated by Thomas Aquinas and developed in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, Derek acknowledges the theory’s historical role in restraining violence. At its best, Just War thinking treats war as tragic but permissible only under strict conditions. But Derek raises a critical question: even if it limits war, does it also legitimize it?
Drawing from Scripture, church history, and personal experience, Derek explores how the coming of Jesus reframes the conversation about violence. Jesus’ teachings to love your enemies, turn the other cheek, and put away the sword radically reorient how with think about war. The question is no longer “When is war justified?” but “What does faithfulness to Jesus look like in a world shaped by war?”
This episode challenges listeners to reconsider long-held assumptions and to take seriously the possibility that the way of Jesus calls us beyond justified violence toward a life shaped by nonviolence, peacemaking, and costly love.
Key Takeaways
• Just War Theory has historically functioned to limit violence but may also legitimize it.
• The criteria for “just war” are often interpreted by those who benefit from war.
• Jesus reframes violence through the perspective of enemy love and nonviolence.
• The early church consistently leaned away from violence in its witness.
• Just War Theory can shrink our moral imagination by keeping war as an available option.
• Christian discipleship calls us to ask what is faithful, not merely what is justifiable.
Scriptures Mentioned
• Galatians 3:24
• Matthew 5–7 (Sermon on the Mount)
• Isaiah 2
Resources Mentioned
Article: Questioning the Just War Assumption by Derek Vreeland
https://missioalliance.org/questioning-the-just-war-assumption/
Safeguarding Peace from the US Conference of Catholic Bishops
https://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/war-and-peace/excerpts-from-catechism-of-the-catholic-church-safeguarding-peace-1997
A Field Guide to Christian Nonviolence edited by David C. Cramer & Myles Werntz
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Episode 102: The Kingdom of God Is Not What You Think
Episode 102
Thursday, May 14, 2026 • Duration 33:01
In this episode of Peaceable and Kind, Derek Vreeland takes a fresh look at the central theme of Jesus’ ministry, the kingdom of God. While the phrase is familiar to many Christians, it is often misunderstood, reduced, or distorted.
Jesus proclaimed, taught, and demonstrated the kingdom by announcing good news, explaining its implications, and embodying its power through healing. But the kingdom is not what many assume. It is not merely a future reality in heaven, nor is it simply good works, church activity, or private spirituality. It is not aligned with political ideologies or national agendas.
Instead, the Kingdom of God is the rule of God in Christ on the earth through the church. Derek challenges both common misunderstandings: the idea that the kingdom is only future (held by many evangelicals) and the idea that it is something we must build through human effort (held by many progressives). The truth, he argues, is found in the tension—what theologians call the “already and not yet.”
This episode also explores the political nature of the kingdom, not partisan, but deeply political in the sense that it confronts and reshapes how power is understood and exercised. Rooted in the Sermon on the Mount, the kingdom calls followers of Jesus into a new way of living, one that resists both cultural polarization and ideological captivity.
The invitation of Jesus is not simply to believe in the kingdom but to enter it, live under its authority, and bear witness to it in a divided world.
Key Takeaways
• The kingdom of God is the central message of Jesus’ ministry.
• The kingdom includes proclamation, teaching, and demonstration.
• The kingdom is not heaven, good works, or private spirituality.
• It is the rule and reign of God through King Jesus on the earth.
• The kingdom is both present (“already”) and future (“not yet”).
• The kingdom is political—but not partisan.
• Followers of Jesus are called to live under God’s rule, not build their own version of the kingdom.
• Allegiance to political ideologies can distort our understanding of the kingdom.
Scriptures Mentioned
• Matthew 9:35
• Matthew 3:2
• Isaiah 2:2–4
• Hebrews 12:22–24
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Episode 101: The Elves of Middle Earth
Episode 101
Thursday, May 7, 2026 • Duration 50:16
In this episode of Peaceable and Kind, Derek Vreeland returns to Middle-earth for one final “dip into Tolkien,” reflecting on the Elves of The Lord of the Rings—ancient, wise, and quietly powerful figures who stand at the fading edge of an age.
Though not the central heroes of the story, the Elves serve as keepers of memory, bearers of wisdom, and guardians of beauty. Derek explores how characters like Elrond and Galadriel function as guides rather than rulers, offering clarity, provision, and encouragement to those tasked with carrying the future. Their presence echoes something familiar in Scripture. They are like angels as they illuminate truth, bring comfort, and point others toward courage without seeking power for themselves.
Through the Council of Elrond and the gifts of Galadriel, we see a different kind of leadership marked by wisdom, restraint, and the ability to recognize where true responsibility lies. The fate of Middle Earth is not entrusted to the strongest or the wisest, but to the humble. And the Elves are wise enough to let that happen.
In the end, the Elves remind us that true greatness is not found in holding onto power, but in preparing others, playing your part faithfully, and knowing when to let go.
Key Takeaways
• The Elves are not the central heroes, but essential to the story’s unfolding. • They serve as keepers of memory, wisdom, and beauty in Middle-earth. • Elrond models leadership through listening, guidance, and historical awareness. • Galadriel embodies spiritual insight, testing, and provision. • True wisdom resists the temptation to seize power. • The future is shaped by humility, not dominance. • Faithful leadership prepares others rather than controlling outcomes. • Knowing your role—and embracing it—is a mark of maturity and wisdom.
Books Mentioned
The Fellowship of the Ring by J.R.R. Tolkien
Resources Mentioned
Malcolm Guite YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@MalcolmGuitespell
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Episode 100: Celebrating 100 Episodes
Episode 100
Thursday, April 30, 2026 • Duration 41:32
In this milestone episode, Derek reflects on the journey of Peaceable and Kind, 100 episodes exploring what it means to follow Jesus in a way marked by peace and kindness. Rather than introducing a new topic, this episode looks back at the themes, questions, and conversations that have shaped the podcast so far, from spiritual formation and Scripture to politics, reconciliation, and the life of Jesus. At the heart of it all is a vision of becoming people who reflect the character of Jesus in a fractured world.
Derek revisits key movements in the podcast, including early teachings on prayer and formation, thoughtful engagement with cultural and political tensions, and a deep theological dive into the cross and resurrection especially through the atonement series and engagement with The Crucifixion by Fleming Rutledge. He also highlights the importance of the Nicene Creed, the rhythms of the Christian calendar, and the formative power of stories, literature, and imagination.
A major highlight of the podcast has been its 23 interviews, conversations with pastors, authors, and theologians that embody humility, curiosity, and a shared pursuit of truth. These dialogues reflect the core heartbeat of the podcast: listening well and learning together.
As the episode looks ahead, the direction remains clear: continue exploring Scripture, engaging culture, and pursuing the way of Jesus with depth and honesty. The goal is not easy answers, but faithfulness to the way of Jesus
Key Themes
Christlikeness as the goal of spiritual formation
Scripture as a formative story, not a weapon
Faithful engagement with politics and culture
Reconciliation, justice, and the church as a place of belonging
The life, death, and resurrection of Jesus as central
The value of historic Christian faith and sacred time
The role of imagination and storytelling in spiritual growth
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Episode 99: An Unlikely Hero
Episode 99
Thursday, April 23, 2026 • Duration 39:19
In this episode of Peaceable and Kind, Derek Vreeland returns to Middle Earth to reflect on one of the most overlooked characters in The Lord of the Rings: Samwise Gamgee. While the story is filled with kings, warriors, and wizards, Derek makes the case that the true hero of Tolkien’s epic is not Gandalf, Aragorn, or even Frodo, but a humble gardener from the Shire.
Sam is not a typical powerful or ambitious hero. He never seeks greatness. Yet through his steadfast loyalty, courage, and humility, he emerges as the one who quietly carries the story forward. In moments of fear, darkness, and overwhelming evil, especially in Shelob’s lair and in the Land of Mordor, Sam chooses love over fear, service over status, and faithfulness over power.
This episode explores how Sam’s courage is not the absence of fear, but the willingness to do what is right in spite of it. His humility keeps him grounded, even when he briefly feels the seductive pull of the Ring. He resists the Ring’s temptation and chooses to remain who he is: a gardener, a servant, and a faithful friend.
In the end, Sam’s story reflects something deeply Christian. True heroism is not found in domination or self-exaltation, but in sacrificial love, humility, and the quiet strength to remain faithful. Sam shows us that the most unlikely people often become the most important because they refuse to abandon love.
Themes Explored in This Episode
• The contrast between cinematic heroism and quiet faithfulness
• Courage as action rooted in love
• Humility as resistance to the temptation of power
• The corrupting nature of power (the Ring)
• Mercy, loyalty, and friendship as transformative forces
• Sam as a Christlike figure in posture and character
• The importance of knowing who you are and remaining grounded
Books Mentioned
• The Fellowship of the Ring – J.R. Tolkien
• The Two Towers – J.R. Tolkien
• The Return of the King – J.R. Tolkien
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Episode 98: A Trip to Middle Earth
Episode 98
Thursday, April 16, 2026 • Duration 43:08
In this episode of Peaceable and Kind, Derek Vreeland invites listeners on a journey into the world of The Lord of the Rings. Not as an expert, but as a fellow traveler, Derek reflects on his first deep reading of Tolkien’s epic and the way Middle Earth reshapes how we think about power, mercy, and hope.
Tolkien built a world with its own languages, history, and moral imagination. And unlike fast-paced modern storytelling, this is a story meant to be walked slowly. As Derek explores the parallels between Middle Earth and stories like Star Wars. He highlights a familiar pattern which Joseph Campell described as “The Hero’s Journey”, the story of the unlikely hero drawn into a larger conflict.
At the center of the story is the Ring, a symbol of power that promises control but ultimately enslaves. Tolkien shows that no one is immune to its influence, not even the wise or the good. And yet, woven through the story is a surprising theme: mercy. Acts of pity, especially toward Gollum, become essential to the story’s resolution. In the end, evil is not overcome by strength or heroism alone, but through a mysterious interplay of mercy, weakness, and grace.
Derek reflects on how Tolkien’s story echoes deeply Christian themes: the danger of power, the strength of humility, and the quiet, often unseen work of grace. Even in failure, the story is not over. Middle Earth becomes more than a fictional world. It becomes a lens through which we can better understand our own.
Themes Explored in This Episode
• The Hero’s Journey and Tolkien’s unique twist on it
• Middle-earth as a fully developed world with language and history
• The contrast between Frodo and characters like Luke Skywalker
• The corrupting nature of power
• Mercy as a force that shapes the outcome of the story
• The role of weakness and failure in redemption
• The connection between Tolkien’s storytelling and Christian theology
Resources Mentioned
In Deep Geek YouTube Channel:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVTclEEyY1SKFumpT86h-y6jikkEUKIAH&si=TK7h1wSebJVOxf98
Books Mentioned
• The Fellowship of the Ring – J.R. Tolkien
• The Two Towers – J.R. Tolkien
• The Return of the King – J.R. Tolkien
• Hero with a Thousand Faces – Jospeh Campbell
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Episode 97: Celebrating the Resurrection
Episode 97
Thursday, April 9, 2026 • Duration 34:40
In this Easter episode of Peaceable and Kind, Derek Vreeland celebrates the resurrection of Jesus and reflects on why Easter stands at the very center of the Christian faith. While many churches may not follow the traditional rhythms of the Christian calendar, nearly all Christians celebrate Easter, and for good reason. If Jesus did not rise from the dead, then the entire Christian story collapses. The resurrection is the lynchpin of our faith and the event that explains why Christianity exists at all.
Drawing on insights from N. T. Wright, Derek explores the historical shock of the resurrection in the first-century Jewish world. In the time of Jesus, people believed resurrection would happen at the end of history not in the middle of it. That is why the empty tomb and the appearances of the risen Jesus stunned even his closest followers. As the apostle Paul insists in 1 Corinthians 15, if Christ has not been raised, then Christian preaching and faith are meaningless.
The resurrection also reshapes Christian hope. Easter is not simply about life after death. It is about God’s promise of new creation. Just as God raised Jesus from the dead, God will one day raise his people and renew the whole world. The Christian hope is not escape from creation but the restoration of creation. Because resurrection is our future, what we do in the present matters. Our bodies matter. God’s creation matters. Easter proclaims that death has been defeated and that one day God will make all things new.
Books Mentioned
• The Resurrection of the Son of God — N. T. Wright • Surprised by Hope — N. T. Wright
Scriptures Mentioned
• John 11:23–24 • 1 Corinthians 15:12–14
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Episode 96: Make Me an Instrument of Your Peace: A Conversation with Mark DeYmaz
Episode 96
Thursday, April 2, 2026 • Duration 39:56
In this episode of Peaceable and Kind, Derek Vreeland sits down with Mark DeYmaz, the founder of Mosaic Church of Central Arkansas and a leading voice in the multiethnic church movement. They talk about Mark’s newest book, Make Me an Instrument of Your Peace. Drawing from the Prayer of St. Francis, Mark offers a vision for becoming more like Jesus in a divided world.
Mark shares his spiritual journey from a Catholic upbringing and Jesuit education to a personal awakening of faith during his college years. They talk about their shared love for the music and passion of Keith Green and how formative it was for them both. Mark also reflects the challenging of leaving a successful youth ministry in order to plant a multiethnic church, which was anchored in his family’s motto: faith, courage, and sacrifice.
Together, Derek and Mark explore the church’s credibility crisis in a culture marked by division, the importance of embodying good works before speaking good words, and why peacemaking must hold together both love and justice. They also discuss the role of fear in fueling division and what it means for Christians to faithfully engage a fractured world without retreating into silence or reacting without wisdom.
Books Mentioned
• Make Me an Instrument of Your Peace — Mark DeYmaz
Scriptures Mentioned
• Matthew 5:16 • Isaiah 61
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Episode 95: Recapitulation and Final Thoughts on The Crucifixion
Episode 95
Thursday, March 26, 2026 • Duration 35:46
In this Holy Week episode of Peaceable and Kind, Derek Vreeland concludes the Lenten journey through Fleming Rutledge’s The Crucifixion. This episode reflects on the meaning of the cross through the final biblical motif Rutledge explores: recapitulation. Derek also offers his final thoughts on Rutledge’s book.
Recapitulation is the idea that Jesus “sums up” the human story and lives it again the right way. Where Adam failed, where Israel failed, and where we fail, Jesus succeeds. Drawing on the theology of Irenaeus and the apostle Paul’s description of Christ as the “second Adam,” this image shows how Jesus restores humanity by living a life of perfect covenant faithfulness and undoing the damage introduced by Adam. Through Christ’s life, death, and resurrection, a new humanity is born, one no longer ruled by Sin and Death but brought into the life of the new Adam.
The crucifixion reveals both the depth of humanity’s captivity to Sin and the power of God’s righteousness to set things right. God’s righteousness is God’s power to rectify what has gone wrong in the world. While Christians are called to pursue justice, the ultimate restoration of creation belongs to God alone. Derek closes the series by reflecting on why The Crucifixion remains one of the most important books he has read on the death of Jesus, while also noting the importance of recovering the kingdom implications of the cross, that is, how the crucified and risen Jesus is revealed as the true King of the nations.
Books Mentioned
• The Crucifixion — Fleming Rutledge
• The Day the Revolution Began — N. T. Wright
• N.T. Wright and the Revolutionary Cross — Derek Vreeland
Scriptures Mentioned
• Matthew 26:26–28
• Genesis 12
• Romans 5:14–15
• 1 Corinthians 15:22
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