Paratopia Talk Story was an incredibly short-lived and glitchy Youtube video talk show. On this inaugural episode, The Jeff & The Jer welcome experiencer Deb Kauble to talk about how the paranormal has evolved in her life since the days of her possible "alien pregnancy." Are pregnancies themselves gateways to the paranormal? We shall find out!

The Jer channels his inner Mel Blanc to bring you a very special interpretation of the Citizen's Hearing on Disclosure, in this, the first-ever Paratopia radio play. (originally aired: 05.03.2013)

On this the final Paratopia Live, Jeff and Jer say goodbye and thanks to their audience and tell their latest high strangeness experiences. Features special call-in guests, including Deb Kauble! Want to say Thank You back? Please consider tossing a couple of bucks to The Jer at: www.ko-fi.com/jayvay.

Call-in guests galore on this episode!

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Philip Coppens, author of The Ancient Alien Question, joins us for the full two hours to explore the evidence that ancient humanity had a little help in society building from interplanetary visitors. (originally aired: 11.10.2011) Wanna help The Jer out with his expensive life? Visit www.ko-fi.com/jayvay to day and donate—ALSO TODAY!

Help keep Our Undoing Radio going. Donate whatever small amount you can today at: www.ko-fi.com.jayvay Because the Paratopia podcast just wasn't enough, Paratopia Live was born. Here Jeff Ritzmann, Jeremy Vaeni, and the official unofficial third host, Lee Townsend, talk about their high strangeness experiences and take calls live!

James, a longtime listener and lifetime experiencer of the highly strange, shares with us audio of an interview with his mother. This is the first time they have ever spoken about the paranormal in their lives and the first time he has spoken publicly about it at all. We listen to the audio and dive in deeper with James about not only the manifestations, but the possible confluence of ingredients that make them happen. This ties together nicely some of the threads we've been pulling on in recent weeks. What a way to kick off our new direction of experiencer-driven shows! (originally aired: 11.03.2011)

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This one's the follow-up to our Ouija Board Special episode. And this one is special, too, featuring more audio from Jeremy Vaeni's high school Ouija Board sessions, as well as what was then the latest revelation about Jeff's shrouded visitor as sort of a cosmic psychotherapist. Pretty Please support this work. Donate today at: www.ko-fi.com/jayvay

The Jer once did a midweek Paratopia Live special that began with answering questions readers had about his book, Urgency., and ended in listeners calling in. This is that special. Get ready to hear all about that most paranormal experience of all: Love.

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Tracey and Paul, two of Jeremy's high school friends, join us to relive the nightmarish soap opera that became their teen years. For some, the nightmare is parents. For others, it's puberty. For them, it was an addiction to a Parker Brothers Ouija Board. Good times! (originally aired: 10.27.2011)

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UnknownCountry.com's other favorite author, Anne Strieber, joins us to talk about why the Visitors might be abducting people from a scientific point of view. This springboards Jeff & Jer into an insightful afterchat where they narrow down the necessity for fear in these experiences. But first, Jeff has captured an amazingly clear voice in a room of his house too clear to be a typical EVP. (originally aired: 10.19.2011)

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Because the Paratopia podcast just wasn't enough, Paratopia Live was born. Here Jeff Ritzmann, Jeremy Vaeni, and the official unofficial third host, Lee Townsend, talk about their high strangeness experiences and take calls live! Help keep Our Undoing Radio going. Donate whatever small amount you can today at: www.ko-fi.com.jayvay

Jeff's final solo episode of Paratopia covers where we've been over the long journey of the program--which includes a special mystery guest to talk of the future. But Jeff also delivers a critical message about where communication regarding the '"alien" encounter goes in moving forward, how it cannot be stopped, why we have to take the mighty leap of faith, and speak of it as it truly is, and not be coerced by the machinations of the past or present day ufology. No-man's land never stays that way for long. We must all lay claim to the middle ground. (originally aired: 06.07.2012)

Jeff & Jer announce some new directions coming to the show, then have an insightful conversation about the paranormal that kicks off with Jeff's recent, brief visit from the shrouded man. (originally aired: 10.13.2011) Support Our Undoing Radio. Help keep this going: www.ko-fi.com/jayvay

Alta & Chad Dillard walk us through a timeline of their individual and shared high strangeness experiences, which run the gamut of paranormal manifestations. This is the perfect show for the week we launch Project Core! (originally aired: 10.07.2011)

This week, Jeff flies solo as Jeremy completes his move from NYC. Our guest? None other than parapsychologist, Loyd Auerbach! Loyd stops by to define what parapsychology actually is and discuss ghosts, hauntings, data collection & technology, psi, and PK.

Loyd details an amazing case of two-way discussion with a "ghost," and the ghost’s perception of itself. This is an interview not to be missed!

Oh, and there's chocolate too. That's right. Chocolate. 

Afterwards Jeff and Jeremy get ready to deploy Project Core, and have some final words before the site begins it's work.

Visit Loyd Auerbach's website, The Forever Family Foundation, at: http://www.foreverfamilyfoundation.org (originally aired 09.29.2011)

Ever hear the cliche about the teenage girl who causes paranormal activity around her by repressing her rage? Meet Briana. She's living proof that this happens. 

The Jer flies solo on this one, interviewing her, babbling incoherently, and—ultimately giving up on being a solo act—making a call to a surprise second guest who has been haunted in a completely different, yet related, way. (originally aired 09.22.2011)

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Jeff & Jer reveal a new and broad longterm study into paranormal accounts of all kinds that they will be spearheading with Dr. Tyler Kokjohn and Dr. Kim Cooper. Then, they tackle some of the weightier questions about ufology, consciousness, spirituality, and free will vs. destiny. (originally aired: 09.15.2011)

This episode is a lesson in contrasts. Which is deeper, more interesting, and speaks to a reality most can't fathom: ufologists narrating experiencer stories at a UFO conference, or the actual story of an experiencer in the audience? 

Kelly Johnson is an experiencer who traveled a very long distance to listen to professional ufologists at the 2011 Exeter UFO Festival in New Hampshire. Little did she know that what she would hear onstage wouldn't reflect the reality she lives. This is some of her spectacular life story contrasted with Jer's deflating road trip audio, which features guests John Flynn, Tina Sena, and Tim Binnall. 

This is what paranormal reality sounds like when it's not edited for expectations! (originally aired: 09.08.2011)

Lobo, from the Project Archivist podcast, joins us for a frank discussion about his extraordinary experiences. This could very well be the first case of a person with all outlier phenomena attached to them. Two words: just listen. (originally aired: 09.01.2011)

The pseudonymous “Roejen” from Project Archivist joins us to talk about his thoughts on the paranormal and share his own paranormal experiences. Then, Jeff & Jer tackle why certain aspects of how experiencers feel about their role as experiencers are hard to articulate and might be misinterpretations of the situation. 

Be sure to check out the Project Archivist podcast here: www.projectarchivist.com

Mirage Men author Mark Pilkington joins us to explore his book and some of the real life characters and situations that have shaped the mythos of ufology. Mark is also a crop circle maker, so we go down that road as well. This one is as straightforwardly sane as it is weird and fascinating!

But first... Jeff tells of two days he'll not soon forget. Namely, the last two. His story is not paranormal but it is absolutely hysterical and, trust us, that will be enough. (originally aired 08.18.2011)

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Jason Offutt returns to talk about his disenchantment with the ghost hunting scene and explore some of the quirkier aspects of various phenomena, from hauntings to shadow people to black eyed kids. (originally aired: 08.11.2011)

Tom Cheetham can't get Jeremy Vaeni's voice out of his head, an inner critic, telling him that what he's teaching about Henry Corbin and company is irrelevant because the spiritual trump card is the only card to play--and that is letting go of everything. Is his inner Vaeni right? What does outer Jeremy Vaeni have to say about it? Thus begins this week's continuing conversation.

Frank Kimbler believes he may have found some alien wreckage debris in the sands of Roswell. And he may be right! Frank discusses the science involved in trying to figure out the origin of this mysterious metal. But first, Jeff & Jer make a huge announcement about their new call-in show, Paratopia Live! Sundays will never be the same! (originally aired: 08.04.2011)

Rachel Baker of the ghost research outfit MRIPA returns to discuss her work and her purpose in the ghost biz, but what she reveals has very little to do with ghosts and ultimately leads into the type of rare and pivotal episode that has come to define Paratopia. Learn more about Rachel at www.mripa.net

(originally aired: 07.28.2011)

Jeff & Jer explore the often overlooked details of their experiences, asking new questions, starting with: What does it mean to be an adult if that is stripped away and one feels like a child in the face of the enigma? (originally aired 07.21.2011)

Marian Apparitions Are Real! author, Kevin Cook, joins The Jeff & The Jer to talk about mass visions of the Virgin Mary from around the world. To follow along this episode with the photos we'll be talking about, and to learn more about Kevin and his book, you’re out of luck. I cannot find any functioning homepages for Kevin in 2024. But you can still get his book on Amazon and elsewhere. (originally aired: 07.14.2011)

Originally an archive-only special, here Jeremy Vaeni explains the situation surrounding Phil Imbrogno being discovered as a liar where his education and military record were concerned--including what Phil Imbrogno wrote to him that made Jeremy initially hold back. (originally created: 06.15.2013)

The Jeff & The Jer recorded a full episode with Lee Townsend on Wednesday. The first half dealt with the recent allegations that Phil Imbrogno forged his education credentials. Anything we had to say was purely speculative because Phil's public response has been to leave the paranormal field and go silent. That's publicly. But a funny thing happened on the way to Thursday: Phil personally emailed Jeremy his side of the story out of the blue and so the first half of the show had to be scrapped as irrelevant in light of new information--information Jer still cannot really share with the audience, but can talk around.

And that's only the beginning of the problems they faced with this week's episode. In fact, the way they ended with Lee was bizarre and the way Jeff & Jer ended their afterchat on Thursday was impossibly weird. Is there a ghost in the machine? Imbroglios indeed!

Thankfully, what was salvaged and cobbled together is seamless enough and full of the Paratopia mind food we all crave. (originally aired 07.07.2011)

The Path of Energy author, Dr. Synthia Andrews, joins Jer to clearly define chakras, the aura, and other ethereal energy systems that are a part of us and yet unproven by science. What are these things? How do they work? Are they interconnected? How do we know anything about scientifically unproven phenomena?

That, plus the problem of evil and the question of aliens are up for discussion in this illuminating talk. Then, Jeff & Jer explore some of Jeff's ''alien'' encounters with fresh questions that cut deeper than they've ever sliced before. This is one of those ''wow'' after-chats that will leave you stunned and pondering. (originally aired: 06.20.2011)

Occult expert Donald Tyson talks about his book, The Dream World of H.P. Lovecraft, which launches us into a fascinating conversation on magick, sigils, the power of intention, and the structure of things unseen. (originally aired: 06.23.2011)

A discussion about Jeff's unique hypothesis on the Gulf Breeze sightings leads into theorizing about what this phenomena is the likes of which you've never heard before. This is two hours of the the deep stuff you simply cannot find on another show. (originally aired: 06.16.2011)

Is computer tech all about us yearning for the oneness whom we are and are repressing? Are Jeff Ritzmann and Jeremy Vaeni two old farts screaming at kids to get off their lawn?

Picking up on themes in Paratopia Episode 120: Bill Birnes - Everything Asked, The Jeff & The Jer go back and forth on computer tech and the state of a future being dictated to us by rich men living in fear of death. Subjects include nanobots in the bloodstream (yes, kids, people were talking about it a decade before the pandemic), video games, Transcendent Man, a documentary on inventor and futurist, Ray Kurzweil, and, sure, let's throw in Lady Gaga for good measure.  (originally created: 06.16.2011)

Episode 103 ran long and The Jeff & The Jer had yet more to say. This is that more. Jer in 2025 says, "I'm finishing up a book on Kundalini due later this year and then writing one more 'alien abduction' book. What you're about to listen to will play a heavy role in that book. Watch out for it in 2026!" (originally released to subscribers in February 2011)

UFO Hunters star & UFO Magazine publisher William J. Birnes joins Jeremy to discuss what he really thinks of Ancient Aliens, what he really thinks of Phil Corso, what Charles Halt told him about Jim Penniston's binary code, what he really thinks of Bentwaters, and if we really did change anything with our exposés on Jacobs/Hopkins. He also answers the question most nagging Paratopians for years: Why did he tell that abductee guy he was a hybrid alien on the most infamous episode of UFO Hunters?

All of this plus we get a behind the scenes tutorial in what it's like to produce television and be a high-profile author in ufology. This is, indeed, the ultimate Bill Birnes episode! (originally aired: 06.09.2011)

Ted Roe returns to update us on NARCAP's alliance with the Chilean government, tell us of his studies at a secret spot in Arizona where earthlights are viewed regularly, and weigh in on the growing debate over dolphin sentience. Did you read that description correctly? Yes you did. Wipe your eyes and unclog your ears--this one is a wild, looping voyage on the high seas of strangeness! (originally aired: 06.02.2011)

We say goodbye to Lisa Ritzmann who passed away December 19th, 2023. Lisa was and is a beautiful soul. And then we carry on.

Just in time for the Rapture, The Jeff and The Jer explore the cult mentality with survivor Taylor Galloway. But first, it's a marathon intro hour covering everything from the topic at hand to reactions to last week's episode about Jim Penniston's outrageous new claims. This one's different but it's still serious and still fun. Some things never change! (originally aired: 05.26.2011)

The Jeff & The Jer dissect a brilliant episode of another podcast, The Joiner Report, where host Angelia Joiner (may she rest in peace) puts enough great questions to Rendlesham Forest Incident witness Jim Penniston that his testimony implodes.

Though often hailed as one of the greatest UFO cases of all time, Jeff & Jer have to ask: Is the Bentwaters/Rendlesham Forest Incident dead? If so, who killed it and why? They lay out possible scenarios, but ultimately the listener must decide what's going on here. (originally aired: 05.19.2011)

Legendary author and experiencer, Whitley Strieber, joins Jeff, Jer, and guest co-host Lee Townsend to discuss the new edition of 'his book, The Key. A riveting read, The Key contains perhaps the most important conversation about reality and the human future ever had. We still don't know who the mysterious man who barged into Strieber's hotel room back in 1998, whom Whitley calls, "The Master of The Key," is. But in this episode, we do learn a lot more about Strieber, a multi-dimensional man in his own right. (originally aired: 05.12.2011)

Binnall of America host, Tim Binnall, joins Jeff & Jer in the first half of the show to talk about his hypnosis session, his disillusionment with the 9/11 Truth Movement, and the possibility that there really is a coordinated desensitization to the alien presence on Earth. Then, in the second half of the show, Jeff and Jer explore two experiences Jeff hadn't the words to describe... until now. (originally aired: 05.05.2011)

Jeff & Jer take questions from the listeners. And Jeff says one of the smartest things about real disclosure Jeremy has ever heard. (originally aired 04.28.2011)

What started as a business-like 15 minute pitch for Paratopians to help finance Dennis McKenna's memoirs turned into its own 90+ minute memoir with a raw, emotional end chat about his brother Terence's final days and beyond. Jer is nowhere to be found and Jeff mostly listens as Dennis takes us back to his days of journeying through the Amazon and the mind with Terence McKenna. (originally aired: 04.26.2011)

It's that time again--Time for a Halloween special on Jeff Ritzmann's favoritest of holidays, Halloween! This one has been a long time coming. First, we dissect a message to us all from a highly strange being Jeff had chats with for a while, with fresh eyes. Then, we will learn the 2 revelations he refused to make public at the time and why. Finally, we get a visit from Binnall of America's Tim Binnall and have a fantastic discussion with him about his interest and evolution in a variety of paranormal fields. Wait, what did I say was first? First is a comedy sketch that is sure to be triggering for #ufotwitter and therapy for the rest of us. So carve a pumpkin and carve some time. This is a brand new full-length Paratopia!

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What do ghosts, witches, Bigfoot, bad luck, giant animals, UFOs, orbs, zombies, cults, and crime have in common? According to our guest, and Dark Woods author, Chris Balzano, they all reside in the Freetown State Forest. And according to the Wampanoag Tribe, they are intricately connected to tiny, magical monster people called ''Pukwudgies.''

Christoper Balzano is a paranormal investigator and folklorist who doesn't just collect stories but is given actual cases to investigate from the police. What is going on here? Jeff and Jer consider the possibilities in new, broad, abstract ways.

Also, Jer gets Jeff to say the word ''Pukwudgie.'' And finally, Jeff admits that his home may have been visited by a creature like this if not the very being itself! (And, as you by now expect from evidence of the paranormal, he has photos that support what he's saying yet prove nothing.)

[originally aired: 04.21.2011]

In this astonishing season finale of Our Undoing Radio, host Jeremy Vaeni takes us on an unlikely, multilayered journey through personal and collective time to understand the roots of our modern sense of evolving, which, it turns out, is a justification for the furtherance of patriarchy and war. Want more free content just like this on a website where you will not be tracked or advertised to? Please visit: https://www.ourundoing.com

Scott Crownover has invented a new way to take photos of ghosts--and it works! It works so well that his best shots pass Jeff's personal sniff test. He's here to talk about those photos, what he does to get them, and a variety of stories and anecdotes one expects from a ghost hunting episode. All that plus 2 highly controversial EVPs. Are they too good to be true or just true? You decide! (originally aired: 04.14.2011)