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Mason Duncan is a horse trainer as well as the President and General Manager of Texas Fueling. Mason grew up in a ranching community in rural Utah and was exposed to horses and ranch life from an early age. Mason grew his horse training business through training a variety of different disciplines, but ultimately had the goal of being a reining trainer. With a thriving and profitable training business, Mason made the decision to change careers to the oil and gas industry to provide more opportunity for his family. Today, Mason is an accomplished business executive who also runs his own personal 2 year old program. Joe sits down with Mason to discuss his approach to business success and how he feels horse trainers can apply these principals to do what they love in a sustainable and profitable way. Tune in for an extremely informative conversation about how to grow and thrive in the horse industry.

#horsetraining #horsebusiness #reining

David Sharp is a rope horse trainer from Dublin, Texas. Originally from Louisiana, David always had a passion for horses and all things cowboy. Through the mentorship of his father and local horseman, David learned to start colts and develop a love of team roping. In his early 30s, David decided to bet on himself and move to Texas in hopes of becoming a fulltime trainer. Through dedication and persistence, David carved out a business for himself in the competitive area of North Texas. Today, David runs Sharp horses with his wife where they develop head horses and barrel horses. Tune in for a motivating conversation about horsemanship, hard work and the value of never giving up.

#ropehorse #teamroping #horses

John Haskell is a rancher and entrepreneur from Sheridan, Wyoming.  He is the owner of Ranch Right, LLC, a consulting business dedicated to helping ranchers understand their financials and make decisions to create profitable and sustainable businesses.  From an early age, John wanted to be a cowboy. He had the opportunity to work on a variety of different ranches across the American west as he honed his skills in horsemanship, stockmanship and ranch management. John shares how mentors such as Bud Williams and Allan Savory helped shape his skill set and perspective as a cowboy and rancher. Ultimately, John came to the conclusion that most ranches suffered from one distinct problem, a lack of financial understanding. Today John runs a large multi-state cattle enterprise as well as Ranch Right, LLC. Tune in for a fun conversation about cowboying, stockmanship and the “un-sexy” but vital parts of the ranching lifestyle.

#stockmanship #ranching #ranchingforprofit

Lane Thiessen is a rawhide braider and cowboy from Gem, Alberta. Growing up in rural Alberta as the son of well known cowboy poet, Bryn Thiessen, Lane was exposed to the western lifestyle and quality cowboy gear from an early age. Lane learned to braid his first hackamore out of necessity and thanks to mentors such as Bill Black, he now runs LT Braiding and has become an accomplished braider in his own right. Lane joins Joe to discuss all things hackamores including composition, styles, training applications and care. Tune in for a fun conversation about what it means to be an aspiring hackamore man.

#hackamore #rawhide #rawhidebraiding

Justin Sorenson is a cowboy, rancher and horse trainer from northern Nevada. Justin grew up in a ranching family, learning to ride in the mountain country. As a teenager, Justin was exposed to the foundation of horsemanship through Brian Neubert. As an adult Justin began his own training business as he continued to cowboy and work on and off for cowhorse trainer, Nick Dowers. Justin joins Joe to share his experience of growing in his horsemanship from colt starting to the show pen and how he's managed to grow his business while raising a young family. Tune in for a great conversation and learning on the job and finding the "why" in what you are learning.

#cowhorse #cowboy #ranching

Jeff Mundell is the manager of the Gabilan Cattle Company in Central California. Today, Jeff manages this ranch using holistic principles in an effort to improve the landscape through a profitable cattle enterprise. Jeff also has a rich passion for the traditional California style of horsemanship and he cares deeply about preserving these traditions through his own horsemanship and educating others. Jeff shares his life story that began as a young aspiring cowboy who became a horse trainer and was eventually called to pursue holistic ranching. Topics discussed include traditional bridle horse gear, the highs and lows of horse training and how ranching fits on the modern landscape.

#ranching #bridlehorse #californio

Charlie Venezia is the owner of Holly Hill Transport. A horse shipping company that specializes hauling hunter/jumper horses in the eastern United States. Charlie joins Joe to share his story of building a his business in the equine industry from scratch, as well as his journey in cowboying and big loop roping. Topics discussed include the importance of persistence, building a reputation and tips for hauling your horse.

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#horsehauling #cowboy #horses

Crockett Carothers, cowboy, rancher, and businessman, shares how a love for ranching led him to niche down in the world of ag industry payments—and win. What if the real key isn’t just working hard but working smart within the right community?

In this episode, Crockett reveals how he transitioned from riding colts and helping neighbors into building a scalable, profitable media and financial empire—all while staying true to his cowboy roots.  Crockett joins host, Joe McDonald, to discuss the importance of niching down, using relationships over transactions, and leveraging social media to multiply your reach. Crockett shares his step-by-step approach to creating a business that enhances his life’s passions—ranching and cowboying—rather than detracting from them. 

Thank you to our sponsor, Holly Hill Transport

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#cowboy #business #entrepreneur

Marilyn Obie is the Horsemanship Director at Triple R Ranch in Chesapeake, VA. Marilyn is a life long horsewoman with a wide range of experience including working for the Ringling Brothers Circus and large ranch outfits in Hawaii. Her professional and personal journey has led her to become a student of the horse in many areas including training, breeding, podiatry, and dentistry. Today, she runs the horse program at Triple R Stables where she oversees a herd of over 60 horses that provides many people their first interaction with horses through trail rides and other experiences. Tune in for a fun conversation about learning in the horse industry and the ever growing barrier to entry newcomers face.

Holly Hill Transport: https://www.facebook.com/HollyHillTransport/

Johnny Flores is a Ranch Horse trainer and AQHA professional horseman based in Acton, California. Born in southern California, Johnny grew up riding horses and competing in various disciplines throughout his childhood. He joins Joe to share his story of becoming a trainer and learning a deep appreciation for bridle horsemanship and the vaquero tradition. Today Johnny starts colt, trains ranch performance horses, teaches clinics, and makes custom bridle horse gear. Tune in for a fun conversation about bridle horses, competition and building a business.

#vaquero #ranchhorse #bridlehorse #AQHA

This episode is brought to you by Holly Hill Transport.

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Most veterans turn to therapy or medication — but what if healing begins with something else? On this episode of On The Move, Joe McDonald hosts Jake Corwin and Bob Caughey from the National Center for Healthy Veterans, where horses are transforming trauma recovery. Discover how a nine-month residential program in Altavista, Virginia, is helping veterans regain their purpose through resilience training, horsemanship, and equine-assisted therapies. Jake and Bob break down the unique spiritual approach rooted in faith and relationship with Jesus that sets their program apart. They share powerful stories of veterans battling PTSD, isolation, and trauma, and how working with horses teaches emotional regulation, trust, and the courage to face life's storms.

#Veterans #Cowboy #VeteranMentalHealth #Horses

Steve Ross is a horse trainer, commentator and business mentor from Scottsdale, Arizona. Steve runs Steve Ross Reining Horses, a horse consignment business that specializes in marketing and selling quality reining horses. He also runs the Steve Ross Academy, a program designed to teach professionals in the horse industry how to improve their business and prosper in their profession. Steve joins Joe to share his thoughts on equine business and what he feels allows a professional to be successful in the the industry today. Topics covered include the value of work ethic, the evolution of NRHA and what it means to be an Equine Entrepreneur.

To learn more about Steve's program you can visit his website at https://steverossacademy.com/

#horses #business #reining #NRHA

Jim Greendyk is a reining horse trainer, clinician and social media influencer from Scottsdale, Arizona. From colt starting in Canada, to showing arabs, to getting out of horses all together, Jim shares his journey of becoming a successful horseman in the reining horse industry. Today, Jim trains and shows reining horses, garners a large social media presence, teaches online classes and offers several clinics around the country including Power Clinics at his own facility in Scottsdale. Tune in for a fun conversation about the importance of faith, positivity and consistency.

Jim Greendyk Performance Horses

https://jimgreendykhorses.com/

#reining #horses #cowboy #horseshow #NRHA

Joe recaps his first 60 days of The Rider Movement Program. For the last two months, Gus Olds of the Rider Movement Program has been helping Joe with his workout routine and nutrition. Gus is a fitness trainer who specializes in helping equestrian athletes perform at their best. To find out more about The Rider Movement you can visit their website:https://theridermove.com/

#fitness #equestrian #horses

Rob Leach is a horse trainer from Tamworth, NSW Australia and is a Wild Card Competitor in the 2026 Road To The Horse Competition. Rob grew up in Mansfield, Victoria in the Australian Alpine region where he participated in a variety of equine disciplines. Upon reaching adulthood he moved to the Northern Territory to work on some of the most remote cattle operations in the world. After meeting his wife, Rob relocated to the United States to start colts and train horses for a variety of different western events including reined cow horse. Rob now lives in Tamworth, Australia where he is an accomplished trainer, clinician, breeder and stockman. Rob joins Joe to share his adventures from the Australian Outback to the winner's circle.

#Campdraft #Cowboy #Aussie #Australianstockhorse

Sadie Fisher is wife, mother, horse trainer, clinician and entertainer from Pennsylvania. Growing up Amish in Lancaster, PA, Sadie grew up surrounded by horses and developed a love of working with them from an early age. Breaking the social norms of her community, Sadie continued to pursue her passion for horses and at the age of 20 had the opportunity to go through Josh Lyons' certification program. From there, she started her training business, Sadie Unbridled Equine, where she trained horses, presented at expos, taught clinics and continued to grow her skill set. Topics discussed include what to do when you don't fit in, motherhood and the power of faith. Sadie is a Wild Card Competitor at the 2026 Road To The Horse Colt Starting Competition.

#horsemanship #rtth #horses #horsetraining

Elisa Wallace is an American 5 Star Three Day Eventer, Mustang Trainer, and YouTuber based in Ocala, Florida. Elisa is one of the competitors in the 2026 Road To The Horse Colt Starting Championship. Elisa joins Joe to share her unique journey in the horse world which has included mustang makeovers, world class eventers and at one point, converting her basement into a set of stalls. Tune in to learn the value of versatility, scrappiness, and the willingness to pour yourself into a horse.

#mustang #eventing #horsemanship #horses

Jason Irwin is a horse trainer, clinician and TV personality from Ontario, Canada. He is a Wild Card Competitor at the 2026 Road To The Horse Competition. Jason grew up in a horse family and was a key part of his family's business of buying, raising and selling horses from an early age. Through this business, Jason learned how to start colts and make solid, buyer friendly horses to sell to the public. As his skill set and reputation grew, Jason began teaching clinics and demonstrating at horse expos all across the United States and Canada. Today Jason and his wife, Bronwyn, run their multifaceted horsemanship business which includes clinics, expos, horse sales and their very own TV show on RFD Canada, The Horse Trainers.

https://www.thehorsetrainers.com/

#Horsetrainer #horsemanship #cowboy

Rod Dowers, father of former podcast guest Nick Dowers, is a farmer and rancher from Dyer, Nevada. Rod joins Joe to share the story of how he and his father moved to Nevada in the mid-80s to carve out a life for themselves and their families. Topics discussed include the history of the Dowers in the United States, growing a business while avoiding debt, and the importance of developing your passion.

Joe McDonald sits down with Ryan Rose, a horse trainer, clinician and YouTuber from Wisconsin. Joe explores Ryan's transformative journey from traditional horse training to becoming a clinician and social media influencer. Ryan shares his philosophy of aligning the horse's idea with his, discusses his thoughts on colt starting competitions, and highlights the critical role of networking in the horse industry. Tune in to discover how Ryan leverages social media to expand his reach and prepare for the 2026 Road to the Horse competition.

#horsemanship #roadtothehorse #horses

JD Thacker is a reined cowhorse trainer and 7th generation Nevada cowboy. JD grew up cowboying in n his family’s ranch, and later starting colts and showing horses with his Uncle, Dave Thacker. At the 2024 NRCHA futurity, JD had a stand out performance on his stallion, Casino Cat, placing 3rd in the Level 1 futurity and qualifying for the Limited and Intermediate Finals. JD joins Joe to talk about life as an up and coming horse trainer, working for Nick Dowers and cowboying in the Nevada desert.

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Dalton Darnell is a ranch roping clinician, the CEO of 3:10 Ranch Life and the host of the Art of Suffering Podcast. 3:10 Ranch Life is a company that sells ropes, tack and apparel in addition for I hosting ranch roping competitions and clinics. Dalton joins the show to share how he’s been guiding the growth of his company and his approach to managing his team members. In addition to 3:10 Ranch Life, Dalton runs 3:10 EDU, an online educational service focused around teaching people roping, riding, stockmanship and other cowboy skills. Dalton explains his journey of becoming a clinician and his approach to teaching others and running clinics. Tune in to a fun conversation about business, faith, identity and what it means to truly love one another.

Gus Olds is a fitness trainer from the UK who specifically trains horseback riders. Gus' company, The Rider Movement, helps equestrian athletes from cowhorse, polo, dressage and many other disciplines improve their biomechanics to better fit the horse and prevent injury. Joe sits down with Gus to discuss his journey in building The Rider Movement and what he is doing today to help so many horses and riders. Topics discussed include why riders so frequently suffer back pain, the difference between stretching and strength training, and the importance of preparation when attempting to perform at a high level. Tune in for a in depth conversation about what horseback riders can do to have a longer and more effective career in the saddle.

The United States is currently being impacted by an EHV-1 outbreak causing barns to quarantine and events to be canceled and postponed. Joe sits down with Veterinarian and PhD in Molecular Biology, Caroline Leeth, to discuss the equine herpes virus, its impact on the horse industry and what owners can do to protect their horses.

For updated information on EHV in the United States, you can visit the following websites:

Equine Disease Communication Center

https://www.equinediseasecc.org/

American Association of Equine Practitioners

https://aaep.org/

Tuli Dowers is the 2025 NRCHA Non-Pro Boxing Futurity Champion. Daughter of former guest, Nick Dowers, Tuli joins Joe to tell the story of showing The Rizzler at the 2025 NRCHA Snaffle Bit Futurity. After losing cow in the herdwork, the decision was made to have Tuli show the 3 year old stallion in the Non-Pro Boxing. Adjusting on the fly, Tuli was able to navigate the young stud, keep her mind focused and even make it to her homecoming dance. Tune in for a fun episode with one of the most exciting young riders in the NRCHA!

JR Robles is a reining horse trainer from Beaverton, Oregon. JR had a unique entry into the horse world, as he was not involved in horses until after college. From humble beginnings, he slowly but surely built a name for himself in the industry. Including being a Road To The Horse contestant in 2023 and an NRHA professional. Today, JR owns and runs JR Horse Training and helps to manage Clover Oak Ranch in Oregon. Topics discussed include getting started in the horse industry, the dangers of burnout and the importance of putting yourself out there.

Ben and Joe sit down to reflect on the past three and a half years of the On The Move Podcast. They discuss what they've learned through meeting their heroes and how that has shaped their own life. Lastly, Ben announces his farewell from the podcast and his plans for the future. Thank you to everyone who as supported us these last three years, we're excited to see what the future holds for the show!

Tristen Baroni is the Head Trainer, Equine Manager and Cattle Relocation Specialist at the Freeman Ranch in southeastern Colorado. He is also the owner/operator of Notorious Horsemanship, his personal training and education business. Tristan has spent his adult life in pursuit of better his horsemanship and finding the objective truth about what makes horses tick. His commitment to these goals has lead his to run a thriving horse program and have success in the show pen. Topics discussed include training a horses mind, breeding horses for the general public and being willing to break the norms of an industry.

Freeman Horses: https://freemanhorses.com/

Freeman Ranch: http://www.thefreemanranch.com/

Mark Bossert is farrier, day worker and self proclaimed buckaroo from Winner, South Dakota. He and his wife, Bailey, also breed horses and operate Kow Gal Supply, a website that sells various home and ranch goods such as tallow lotions, calving books and ranch ropes. Though growing up in the Dakotas, Mark has always had a love to the buckaroo style horsemanship, roping and stockmanship. Today, him and his wife share their passion for the buckaroo lifestyle through their social media. Topics discussed include being comfortable with being different, the joys and challenges of training mules, and the importance of being teachable.

Mark and Bailey can be found on Facebook and Instagram under the names Mark Bossert and Bailey Bossert. To view their website go to https://kowgalsupply.com.

Elias Hutchinson, also known as "The Start Up Cowboy" is a social media influencer known for his instructional videos in a variety of topics such as roping, cowboy etiquette and horse training. Elias is also manages the arena at the University of Wyoming's research farm, is the Wagon Master for UW's draft horse team, and is an advisor to the school's ranch horse team. Elias joins Joe to share what lead him to start making educational content online and where he hopes to take The Startup Cowboy brand. Topics discussed include the taboo's of teaching in the western industry, the unique circumstances of working for a university, draft horses vs. saddle horses and much more!

Pace Freed is the founder of X Factor Roping, a video and production company that specializes in producing instructional team roping content and roping livestreams. Originally from Idaho, Pace spent much of his early life working to become the best roper he could be. On this journey he realized there was a need in the market for instructional content and thus, X Factor Roping was born. Today, Pace and his wife run X Factor which is one of the most prominent production companies and instructional apps in the team roping space. Join Joe and Pace as they discuss struggles of building a business, the incredible consistency needed to be a competitive team roper, rope horse futurities, and much more.

To find out more about X Factor Roping, you can go to https://xfactorteamroping.com/ and get started with a free trail today!

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Casey Bieroth is a rancher and cowhorse trainer from Mountain City, NV. Join Joe as he sits down with another "founding father" of Cowboy Week as he share his story from the ranch to the show pen. Topics discussed include conditioning futurity prospects, the increasing value of the ranch horse, and the slow process of becoming a better trainer.

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Dr. Fabian Roa is a doctor of veterinary medicine currently working for the Virginia-Maryland College of Veterinary Medicine in Blacksburg, VA. Originally from Costa Rica, Dr. Roa developed his passion for animals while working on his family's cattle ranch and learning to ride the Costa Rican Pasos his family bred. Once graduating vet school, he spent time in Weatherford, Texas and Dubai before coming to Virginia for his residency. Dr. Roa joins Ben and Joe to share his international experience in veterinary medicine. Topics discussed include life on a Central American ranch, dancing horses, and the people side of veterinary medicine.

In this episode of On The Move, Ben and Joe welcome a very special guest Kayleigh Burke, a horse trainer from Blacksburg, Virginia, and Joe’s wife and business partner.

Kayleigh shares her journey from growing up in a Northern Virginia lesson program to riding on a collegiate team and later coaching college riders herself. The trio dives into the realities of running a horse training business with your spouse, and Kayleigh offers her honest perspective on teaching in lesson programs, the importance of foundational horsemanship, and how those early experiences shape her approach to training and showing today.

Together, Joe, Ben, and Kayleigh explore the balance of life, horses, and horses and running Joe & Kayleigh's business, McDonald Equine.

Tune in for an open, down-to-earth conversation about building a life—and a program—around a shared passion for horses.

Vernon Purdy is a saddle maker and farrier from Greenville, Texas. Vernon owns and operates Vernon Purdy Saddles which specializes in making a wide range of western saddles with Vernon’s specialty designed saddle tree. This saddle tree came from Vernon’s career as a farrier which had lead him on a deeper journey to understand soundness in a horse. It became evident to Vernon that one of the biggest impacts on a horse’s soundness was saddle fit, which led him to design his own tree and start his own saddle shop. Vernon joins Ben and Joe to share his story of pursuing soundness in a horse and what he’s learned along the way.

Steve Meadows is a horseman from Staunton, Virginia who has made a living showing in various disciplines within the AQHA and APHA. Originally from West Virginia, Steve is fourth generation in the horse industry. Rising to prominence in the AQHA, Steve was the first rider to ever win the triple crown of Western Pleasure in 1999. In 2012, Steve chose to change his focus to the Ranch Horse events where he has had sustained success on a national level. Steve joins Ben and Joe to share his journey as a horseman and discuss the Ranch Horse discipline. Topics discussed include the importance of giving a horse a job, staying motivated as a horseman and what it takes to be successful in the show pen.

In this episode of On the Move, horseman Dustin Sippola shares his remarkable journey through the world of colt starting, ranching, and horsemanship. From competing in Road to the Horse to cowboying at the legendary Gang Ranch in British Columbia and even working for a sheik, Dustin recounts the lessons, challenges, and humor that shaped his path. He reflects on mentorship, the art of training horses, the balance between competition and personal growth, and the importance of self-belief. With stories from the saddle and insights from the arena, this episode captures the spirit of a life dedicated to horses, hard work, and continual learning.

We sat down for our for our first solo episode in a while, catching up and talking through everything from horse clinics to the day-to-day realities of working with horses and running a training business. We dug into the differences between one-day and multi-day clinics, what it takes to help horses and riders make real progress, and how staying adaptable in your approach keeps the work interesting. Tune in and enjoy!

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Joe sits down with Max Morin, a reining horse trainer based in Aubrey, Texas, who’s built a name for himself developing top-tier 2-year-old prospects. Originally from France, Max’s love for horses started young—even when he had to learn from horsemanship videos in a language he barely understood. He shares how he made it to the U.S., landed a job with legendary trainer John Lyons, and eventually carved out a place of his own in the performance horse world.

Max opens up about his journey, the mentors who shaped his horsemanship—like John & Josh Lyons and Nick Dowers—and how he’s now focused on blending strong fundamentals with elite performance. It’s a story of grit, passion, and the pursuit of excellence in and out of the arena.

Cole Cameron is a horseman, clinician, and competitor from Bluff Dale, TX. In this episode of On the Move, Ben sits down with Cole to discuss his journey in horsemanship, from personal experiences and career-defining moments to the evolving landscape of clinics and expos. They dive into the challenges of teaching, the importance of financial literacy for trainers, and the realities of balancing family life with a demanding career. As a past Road to the Horse competitor, Cole shares his insights on the event, reflecting on his experience in the competition and its impact on the industry.

Joseph Bentz is a horse trainer and rancher from Jentura, Oregon. Joseph grew up on his family's ranch in eastern Oregon. After deciding that college was not the path he wanted to take, he worked for Nick Dowers for two years in Dyer, Nevada. In Dyer, Joseph not only honed his horse training ability, but also learned to manage people and better run a ranch. Today, he heads up the colt starting program at his family's Spur Brand Horse Program in Oregon. Every year the Bentz family puts on the Ranchers Horse Sale. For more information you can visit their website at www.ranchershorsesale.com.

Joseph will be competing in the Road to The Horse 2025 as a wild card competitor. If you'd like to watch him in Road to The Horse, he will be competing starting March 27th in Lexington, KY. A livestream is available at Road to The Horse's Youtube Channel.

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Tommy Kilgore is a farrier and clinician from Morris, Oklahoma. Tommy has made a living shoeing everything from backyard kid ponies to high end western performance horses. Graduating from Oklahoma Farrier's College at the age of 17, Tommy had the opportunity to be mentored by the legendary Bud Beaston. For over 35 years Tommy has worked to continue his education and improve on every aspect of his work, from the routine trim, to corrective shoeing. Today, in addition to his farrier work, Tommy travels the country teaching clinics to help people trim and shoe in a way that better helps the horse. Join Joe as he sits down to learn more about Tommy's story and his goals for the future.

Rye McKay is a cowboy from Northern Nevada and a founding father of Cowboy Week. Rye grew up in the ranching industry, learning his foundation for stockmanship and horsemanship from his father. At 18, Rye got his first camp job and has been working with horses, cattle and dogs ever since. Joe sits down with Rye to discuss cowboy week, learning from others and developing a sense of self.

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Ty Evans, along with his wife Skye, owns and operates TS Mules. Ty has made a name for himself in the mule world as a clinician and trainer. Originally from Utah, Ty grew up around mules and horses and was later influenced by teachers such as former podcast guest, Brad Cameron. Today, Ty travels the country with his family teaching "mulemanship" clinics in addition to online teaching, writing articles and producing a podcast. Ty joins Ben and Joe to visit about his unique lifestyle and his horsemanship philosophy. You can find out more about Ty and his business by going to https://tsmules.com/ or following TS Mules on Instagram and Facebook.

This week on On the Move, Ben and Joe chat with Chris Dickinson, a renowned Western photographer known for his hands-on approach to capturing powerful, iconic images. Driven by a passion for creative exploration, Chris goes to great lengths to get the perfect shot, often in challenging conditions. Inspired in his youth by National Geographic and LIFE magazines, Chris now captures intimate, authentic moments with the people of the American West, gaining unique access to ranches and families. His work has been featured in top publications like American Quarter Horse Association, Cowgirl Magazine, and Western Horseman, and in ad campaigns for brands like KFC and Choice Hotels. Based in Utah, Chris also leads photography retreats for aspiring photographers. Discover his work on Instagram and Facebook and listen to him now here on On the Move.

Website: https://www.cdphotog.com/

Instagram: @cdphotog

Facebook: Chris Dickinson Photography

Cliff Williamson joins us for an in depth look at changes coming to the horse industry in 2025. From new laws and regulations to how these shifts could impact horse owners, trainers and businesses. We also dive into a lively, good natured debate about opposing political views that led to a meaningful discussion centered on what kind of reform we wish to see come from the highest office in the land. And of course we couldn't help breaking down the season finale of Yellowstone, commenting on the quirks of modern filmmaking.

Ricky Quinn is a farrier and horse trainer from North Platte, Nebraska. Ricky comes from a strong ranching background and has spent years working as a clinician in the horsemanship world. Most recently, Ricky has begun to train and compete in the ranch and cowhorse disciplines. Joe and Ricky sit down to debrief about the horsemanship ideas from Ricky’s most recent clinic. Topics discussed include the importance of balance to a horse and being willing to solve a problem yourself. Joe also talks with Ricky about his cowboy background and some of the men he admired in his formative years. Ricky shares how this cowboy mentality shaped him into who he is today. Tune in for some exciting stories about life out with the herd and what it takes to be a hand.

Jake Corwin is the General Manager for Valor Farm, a working farm and community designed to help veterans live and perform dignified work while participating in resilience, trauma recovery, and career preparation programs. Jake spent his early life pursuing his dream of being a cowboy, working for ranches and horse trainers all over the eastern United States. While running the commercial side of a large cattle operation, Jake couldn’t help but feel that he was called to do something more. It was at this time he was presented the opportunity to work for the National Center for Healthy Veterans. Over the last four years, Jake has been able to use his horse and ranching experience to help build Valor Farms into a facility that allows veterans to create a better life for themselves. 

On November 10th, 2024 the National Center for Healthy Veterans lost their barn and indoor arena in a fire. No humans were killed or injured in the incident, but they did lose two donkeys used for therapy as well as all their saddles and tack. While operations continue at the farm, the NCHV now faces the long road of rebuilding their equine facility and replacing the gear and equipment that was lost. If you would like to help in their rebuild effort, please go to healthyveterans.org to donate or learn how to get involved. 

Nevada Miller is a talented silversmith, jeweler, and founder of the Be A Maker School. Raised in California, Nevada grew up immersed in entrepreneurship and craftsmanship, learning valuable lessons from her parents that shaped her work ethic and dedication.

Nevada shares how her upbringing influenced her journey as an artist and entrepreneur, inspiring her to create the Be A Maker School—a platform where students can learn directly from skilled craftspeople in fields like saddle making, rawhide braiding, leatherworking, and jewelry making. She also reflects on her experience adapting to life in a small, rural town in southern Nevada as a young woman fresh out of college.

Jaton Lord is a Reined Cow Horse Trainer from California. Jaton was exposed to the horse world through the help of his grandfather, Ray Hunt. As a teenager, Jaton travelled the world with grandpa Ray, riding colts and getting exposed to thousands of horses and riders. When he came of age, Jaton opted to start his career in the performance horse industry. Jaton joins Joe to share his journey of cowboying, showing and helping people with their horses. Topics discussed include the relationship between horsemanship and horse showing, the importance of not forcing things to happen, and what it takes to be successful in the horse business.