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Off the Pitch

Matt Cunningham and David Kinnear

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Frequency: 1 episode/12d. Total Eps: 25

A podcast where we chat with individuals working within and shaping the game of soccer from Off the Pitch.

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From Courtrooms to Soccer Pitches with Atlanta United's SVP of Strategy: Dimitrios Efstathiou | Ep. 25

Episode 25

Thursday, March 6, 2025 • Duration 01:00:14

Grab a pair of headphones and join us for a chat with Dimitrios Efstathiou, Senior Vice President of Strategy at Atlanta United FC. Dimitrios, a seasoned strategist in the world of Major League Soccer, took us through his unique journey from legal courtrooms to the soccer pitches of the US and beyond, shedding light on the intersections of law and sport through his own experiences.

Dimitrios recounted his transition from working as an Investigative Analyst at the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office to diving into the sports industry, revealing what it was like to switch from a strictly legal career to one deeply embedded in the dynamic world of soccer. He shared the challenges and surprises that came with moving into his role at Atlanta United FC, especially as he shifted from focusing on soccer operations to a broader strategic outlook.

Ever wondered how a legal mind tackles sports strategy? Dimitrios broke it down for us, offering stories from the frontline that illustrate how legal thinking can significantly enhance sports management and operations. He highlighted some groundbreaking projects he's championed that have not only spurred Atlanta United's growth but also pioneered new ways to engage fans and succeed as a club on and off the pitch.

Dimitrios also gave us a glimpse into his vision for the future, discussing the trends that excite him most and his predictions for the evolution of soccer in America over the coming years.

This episode is full of personal anecdotes, professional insights, and forward-looking thoughts that make Dimitrios' story a compelling narrative of strategic mastery in the world of professional soccer.

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Inside the Modern MLS Stadium with VP of Operations at S.I. Stadium: Shaun Oliver | Ep. 24

Episode 24

Thursday, February 27, 2025 • Duration 01:02:18

In this insightful episode, we spoke with Shaun Oliver, the current Vice President of Operations at Sports Illustrated Stadium (formerly Red Bull Arena). Shaun detailed how he began working part-time for the New England Revolution just as MLS was getting off the ground, which quickly led to him becoming the Director of Operations at the newly rebranded New York Red Bulls.

We spoke with Shaun about his unique journey to where he is today, sharing funny stories from the early days of MLS, highlighting the professionalism Red Bull brought to the league, and diving into the specifics of keeping an aging stadium modern for the best fan experience.

The insights we gained—from the evolution of MLS to the nitty-gritty operational changes between international and league matches—were eye-opening, to say the least.

If you’re a fan of MLS or simply curious about how a premier soccer stadium operates in the United States, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.

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Building TST's $1 Million Tournament From Scratch: Matt Bilodeau | Ep. 23

Episode 23

Friday, February 21, 2025 • Duration 01:01:54

Join us for a conversation with Matt Bilodeau, the Chief Strategy Officer of The Tournament, renowned for orchestrating the exhilarating TST (The Soccer Tournament) and TBT (The Basketball Tournament), each featuring a $1 Million prize for the winning team.

Since leaving his 10+ career at Reebok and joining The Tournament in late 2023, Matt has been instrumental in driving forward the ambitious vision for TST, drawing on his extensive background in sports marketing. He revealed the strategic thinking behind launching TST, including how they navigated the challenges of attracting the first teams to managing unexpected hurdles with composure.

Matt passionately discusses the importance of gender equality in sports, highlighting The Tournament's commitment to equal prize money for the women's competitions—a pioneering move that not only bolstered the brand but also set a new standard in the industry. With the women's devision set to double in size this summer, Matt shared his excitement and future aspirations for TST, envisioning its significant role in the expanding landscape of U.S. Soccer and beyond.

If you're a fan of TST, sports business in general or simply enjoy listening to a true behind the scenes of launching a successful sports event, this conversation with Matt is one you will not want to miss.

Unpacking USL's Club Strategy Playbook: Kevin Couture | Ep. 22

Episode 22

Wednesday, February 12, 2025 • Duration 01:07:12

In this insightful episode, we dit down with Kevin Couture, the Senior Vice President of the USL's Club Performance Group, who brings a wealth of experience from his diverse career in sports marketing and management. Starting as a college soccer player at Merrimack College in Massachusetts, Kevin transitioned into a significant role with USA Hockey, where he climbed the ranks over 19 years to become the Director of Corporate Marketing.

Kevin delved into his recent move to the USL at the end of 2023, explaining what drew him back to soccer and the unique opportunities he saw within the league. He outlined the scope of his role, highlighting the strategic initiatives he's implemented to enhance club performance across the league. We also explored the recent success in attracting new partners to the USL, discussing the strategies that have fueled revenue growth at both the league and club levels.

Kevin's insights into ground-level tactics and strategies for smaller clubs and particularly enlightening, offering actionable advice for other sports organizations. reflecting on his own achievements, Kevin shared a heartwarming personal moment of pride that stands out in his career, giving us a glimpse into the dedication and passion that drive his professional life.

If you're a fan of sports business, partnership marketing, or sponsorships, this masterclass from Kevin is an episode you will not want to skip.

A Masterclass in Sports Marketing from MLS's CMO: Radhika Duggal | Ep. 21

Episode 21

Thursday, November 21, 2024 • Duration 54:25

In this standout episode, we sit down with Radhika Duggal, the Chief Marketing Officer of Major League Soccer, who brings a wealth of experience and a unique perspective to one of the fastest-growing sports leagues in the world.

Radhika shared her journey, reflecting on her upbringing detailing how her childhood interests and earl exposure to sports helped shape her path towards a career in marketing. Radhika recounted the strategic decisions that have defined her career so far, from her initial professional aspirations to her roles across various industries before stepping into the world of MLS.

As CMO of MLS, Radhika detailed her initial impressions and strategic priorities upon joining the league. She discussed her approach to enhancing fan engagement through understanding consumer behavior, revealing some trends among MLS fans. The conversation naturally turned to the seismic impact of Lionel Messi's presences in the league, and Radhika unpacked both the immediate excitement and the long-term strategies involved in leveraging such a high-profile figure to elevate the league's global presence.

Looking ahead, Radhika shared her predictions for the future of the sport here in the United States especially in light of the upcoming major soccer tournaments coming to the country, articulating her vision for how MLS could play a pivotal role in the global sports narrative.

Radhika's story is not just one of professional success but also of personal growth and the relentless pursuit of excellence in the competitive world of marketing. If you're looking for a sports marketing masterclass or simply want to hear an inspirational journey, this episode is not one you'll want to skip.

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Lessons From a Decade of Building a Pro Soccer Club From Scratch: Nick Ragain | Ep. 20

Episode 20

Wednesday, November 6, 2024 • Duration 01:11:40

In this compelling episode, we explored the journey of Nick Ragain, President of USL Championship side Colorado Springs Switchbacks FC. Nick opened up about his unconventional path into the world of soccer, a sport that was not a part of his life until he spearheaded the Swtichbacks. He shared insights into his personal background and the unlikely story of how he transitioned from a newcomer to the game to leading a successful soccer franchise.

Nick recounted the intriguing beginnings of the Switchbacks in 2013, including how the team's name was chosen through a fan contest–revealing some of he alternative names that were considered. He described the early days of setting up the franchise, the whirlwind of activities required to transform an idea into a professional team, and the community's role in shaping the club's direction.

Delving into the complexities of launching a running a soccer club, Nick explained his approach to gathering knowledge and guidance, from consulting with seasoned professionals to studying examples of other successful franchises. He candidly discussed the challenges he faced, from unforeseen operational hurdles to the strategic decision that guided the development of the team's own stadium, Weiner Field, which opened in 2021.

The opening of Weidner Field marked a significant milestone for the Switchbacks, fundamentally changing the club's dynamics both on and off the field. Nick reflected on the impact of having a dedicated space that they can call home and how it has fostered a deeper connection with fans and bolstered the team's performance.

As he looked back on his journey with the Switchbacks so far, Nick identified a specific moment of personal pride that stood out–a testament to his dedication and collective efforts of everyone involved with the club. Tune in to hear how Nick navigated the challenges of founding and growing a soccer club, his vision for its future, and the lessons learned along the way.

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Pioneering Women's Soccer Leadership with Utah Royals' President: Michelle Hyncik | Ep. 19

Episode 19

Wednesday, October 23, 2024 • Duration 01:06:46

In this episode, we delved deep with Michelle Hyncik, President of Utah Royals, exploring her remarkable transition from a law career to spearheading a major NWSL club. Michelle began with an overview of her legal background and her initial foray into the sports industry, highlighting the skills and experiences that prepared her for leadership in soccer.

Michelle discussed the strategic decisions involved in her move from New York to Utah, the complexities of legal transitions within MLS, and how these experiences equipped her for future challenges. She outlined the process of taking the legal helm during Real Salt Lake's ownership transition, detailing the meticulous approach required to secure the club's future.

As we talked about the revival of the Utah Royals, Michelle revealed how past experiences shaped her approach to relaunching the team. She discussed the early strategy sessions, the drive to build something great from scratch, and the ongoing mission to elevate women's soccer not only in Utah but across the United States.

Michelle also touched on the personal attributes that have supported her career progression and the lessons learned from overseeing both legal and operational aspects of a soccer club. She concluded by sharing her proudest moment in her journey, which encapsulates her achievements and her vision for the future of the Utah Royals.

Don't miss this behind-the-scenes look at Michelle's unique path from the courtroom to the soccer field, filled with lessons on leadership, resilience, and the power of following your passion with one of the soccer industry's most impressive executives.

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Recipe for Sports Marketing Success with Minnesota United's CMO: John Guagliano | Ep. 18

Episode 18

Thursday, October 3, 2024 • Duration 01:00:11

In this episode, we're joined by John Guagliano, the Chief Marketing Officer of MLS club Minnesota United FC. John shared his fascinating journey through professional sports, which spans across major sports leagues including the MLS, NBA, MLB, and NHL, detailing the path from his humble beginnings to now being at the helm of the marketing department for Minnesota United FC.

John dove into his early love for sports, particularly soccer, and how it shaped his career aspirations. He reminisced about his unique start in sports in the NBA with the Charlotte Hornets, starting as a Mascot Coordinator (yes, that's a job!) later returning to spearhead the game-day energy and fan engagement, crafting memorable experiences that went beyond just watching a game.

Transitioning to soccer, John discussed his move to Minnesota United prior to their MLS debut in 2017, highlighting the challenges and triumphs of joining a new club transitioning to America's premier soccer league. He reflected on the strategic marketing shifts necessitated by the move from a large college stadium to the more intimate, soccer-specific environment of their new home in 2019, and how he drew inspiration from other clubs globally to create a unique fan culture.

John opened up about his most recent rewarding project - recently working with the Make a Wish Foundation to fulfill a child's dream of scoring a goal in front of his great grandparents at Allianz Field. He shared the profound impact of integrating community service into the club's identity and how these efforts resonate deeply with fans and staff alike.

Finally, John touched on the broader trends in sports marketing and soccer's growing place in American culture, offering insights into how MLS clubs like Minnesota United are not just competing on the pitch but in the hearts of their communities.

Whether you're a sports fanatic looking to get a peek into the brain of one of the soccer industry's sharpest marketing minds, or simply enjoy stories showcasing how hard work and determination is always the recipe for success, you're going to want to listen to this one.

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The MASL Commissioner's Plan to Revitalize Indoor Soccer: Keith Tozer | Ep. 17

Episode 17

Wednesday, September 25, 2024 • Duration 01:00:21

In this episode, we're joined by the visionary Commissioner of the Major Arena Soccer League (MASL), Keith Tozer. Keith shared his extensive journey and deep passion for the sport, offering insights into his career and what draws him to the fast-paced nature of indoor soccer.

Keith explained the unique appeal of indoor soccer, addressing common misconceptions about the MASL and highlighting to excitement and strategic depth that the game offers. He dove into the league's approach to corporate partnerships, articulating the strengths and value points that make MASL an attractive platform for businesses looking to engage with vibrant, sports-loving audiences.

With a recent merger set to reshape the landscape of indoor soccer, Keith outlined his visionary plans for the future of the MASL and discussed the necessary steps to enhance the league's popularity and ensure it captures a broader fan base, emphasizing the importance of strategic marketing and attracting influential new owners o the league.

Keith also gave us a behind-the scenes look at the league's annual combine (which is taking place in October!), explaining how this key event fits in to the MASL's broader operations and its role in nurturing new talent and maintaining high competition standards.

If you're a fan of the indoor soccer scene, Keith's name is one you will recognize and know that this is an episode you are not going to want to miss. And, if you aren't a fan or don't know much about this side of the sport, we are confident you'll want to tune in and learn about why this is something you should be paying more attention to as the game continues to grow here int he United States.

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The Journey From MLS Player to Apple TV Analyst: Calen Carr | Ep. 16

Episode 16

Friday, September 6, 2024 • Duration 01:11:10

Join us as we dive into the intriguing career of Calen Carr, former MLS star turned top TV analyst for Apple TV's MLS Season Pass. In this episode, Calen opens up about his transition from playing professional soccer to shaping its narrative behind the scenes.

Calen shared how his passion for storytelling emerged during his playing days and the catalysts that pushed him into the media realm. He's been committed to shining a light on the underrepresented aspects of the game, tackling tough topics with both sensitivity and a keen eye for the untold story, and he talked us through his creation "The Movement," revealing how this project became a personal mission to highlight crucial social issues within the sport.

Remember that one-on-one interview with Zlatan Ibrahimović? Calen broke down what it was like to be given the responsibility of introducing Zlatan to the league’s fans, and how “the lion”'s on-screen persona is not a mask, but his true self. Calen reflected on his transition to full-time studio analysis, comparing his previous roles to the bustling and dynamic environment of live broadcasting. Calen also outlined how his preparations for covering multiple teams over consecutive weekends require meticulous planning and a deep understanding of the teams performing in the games he’s involved in.

If you’re a fan of the MLS, sports media, or interested in the behind the scenes of studio broadcasting, this episode is one you won’t want to miss.

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