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Why the Refugee Crisis Isn’t Just a Government Problem with Colin Browne06 Nov 202500:27:29

In this episode of Not Really Strangers, Suzanne sits down with Colin Browne—newly appointed board member at USA for UNHCR. His experience as a former global supply chain leader, and someone who’s lived in nine countries, offers a rare behind-the-scenes perspective on displacement. From a powerful refugee simulation in Hong Kong to the role businesses can play in humanitarian crises, Colin shares what connects us, why the private sector matters, and why he believes we’re not really strangers.


Topics Discussed:

  • How a 24-hour immersive simulation reshaped Colin’s understanding of the refugee experience
  • The surprising ways global supply chains intersect with displacement crises
  • Why most refugees are hosted in low- and middle-income countries, not wealthy nations—and what that means for humanitarian response
  • The critical role the private sector can play alongside governments in addressing global crises
  • Why the phrase Not Really Strangers reflects our shared humanity, no matter our backgrounds


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Health, Migration and the Power of Imagination with Thoại Ngô16 Oct 202500:37:43

In this episode, host Suzanne Ehlers speaks with Dr. Thoại Ngô, an internationally recognized scientist and the Chair of the Heilbrunn Department of Population and Family Health at Columbia University. Thoại’s work lies at the intersection of global public health, gender equality and sustainable development, and he has dedicated his career to improving health and social outcomes for young people and marginalized communities around the world. From founding the GIRL Center at the Population Council to launching the Adolescent Data Hub, his leadership has shaped how the global community understands and responds to issues like adolescent well-being, climate justice and migration. In this conversation, Thoại shares both his professional expertise and his personal story as a former refugee from Vietnam, reminding us how resilience, imagination and community can dissolve distance and build a more just future.


Topics Discussed:

  • Thoại’s personal story of being displaced from Vietnam at age 12 and resettling in the U.S.
  • How home can be both a place and a web of relationships, stretching between New York City and Vietnam
  • The intersection of public health, forced displacement and climate migration
  • Why migration should be seen as a solution, not a threat, to global challenges like aging populations and labor shortages
  • Faith communities and the surprising role they’ve played in refugee resettlement and welcome
  • Thoại’s reflections on “stranger” as an opportunity for curiosity, connection, and discovery


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How Lien Ta Used Her Restaurants to Turn Strangers into Community02 Oct 202500:55:41

I’m deeply honored to have restaurateur and writer Lien Ta on the show today. I found her Instagram during the pandemic and I’m grateful to say that she’s now a friend. In our conversation, Lien shares what it means to her to belong and how we build spaces that help others feel they belong too. We talk about her parents' harrowing journey as Vietnamese refugees and how this has impacted their family through generations. Lien shares how connection emerged as her most essential value, one that shaped her life in hospitality and continues to guide her next chapter. We also explore what it means to be a “stranger,” and how the simple act of asking a question or noticing a detail can bridge worlds. This conversation highlights grief and generosity, family legacy and found community, plus the courage it takes to see and be seen and the powerful trust that grows in between.

Topics:

  • Lien’s childhood dreams of cozy sitcom bedrooms and how this helped her create a sanctuary for herself in Silver Lake, believing that home can be something we construct for ourselves, often for the first time.
  • Lien’s family’s escape from Vietnam, fleeing by boat, then their time in Thai refugee camps, and their eventual resettlement in the U.S.
  • How, through therapy, Lien rediscovered her core values after burnout during the pandemic and why connection now anchors her relationships, career, and creativity.
  • From All Day Baby to Here’s Looking At You, Lien opens up about the intentional ways she designed her spaces to be spaces where strangers become community.
  • What the hospitality and restaurant industries have taught Lien about trust, grief, and generosity – especially after loss. 


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Kat Graham on Family, Resilience, and Advocating for Refugees18 Sep 202500:53:58

In this episode, I talk with actor, musician, and UNHCR Goodwill Ambassador Kat Graham about her deep personal connection to refugees. Kat shares both sides of her family’s stories of displacement from Liberia to the Holocaust, the moments that have stayed with her from visiting camps around the world, and why she believes small acts of giving can create lasting change. We also discuss the power of education, art, and shared humanity and why refugees are never really strangers.

Topics discussed:

  • Kat’s personal connection to refugee issues through her own family’s history from a Liberian father and a Jewish mother whose family survived the Holocaust
  • The resilience and generosity that Kat has witnessed in refugee camps in Syria, Jordan, Sudan and more and how it puts the abundance in refugee camps on display 
  • Why education and creative expression are vital for displaced children and how this was really shown to Kat via a school visit in the middle east 
  • The story behind Kat performing Peace Talks at the Nansen Refugee Awards and the moments that stood out to Kat the most 


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Introducing: Not Really Strangers31 Jul 202500:01:20

Discover just how connected the refugee experience is to our everyday lives, and to the social issues that matter to us most. Join host Suzanne Ehlers, Executive Director and CEO of USA for UNHCR, the UN Refugee Agency, as she and her eclectic guests share personal stories and frontline insights. We’re more connected than we may think.

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Dignity in Livelihoods: The Power of Economic Inclusion with Jina Krause-Vilmar13 Nov 202500:37:15

What if the key to a thriving workforce and stronger communities lies in removing barriers that keep refugees from contributing to the full extent of their abilities and gifts? In this episode, Suzanne speaks with Jina Krause-Vilmar about what economic inclusion really means for immigrants and refugees. Jina shares her personal story as the daughter of Indian immigrants raised by a fiercely determined single mother, some of the lessons she learned throughout her childhood, and what happens when we deny people the right to work. They also talk about workforce barriers; policy changes that can make it easier for refugees to resume their careers in their new homes; and the power of livelihood to strengthen identity, dignity, and belonging. Jina’s insights are both practical and deeply human, and will encourage you to reflect on the universal human desire to feel useful. This episode is about resilience, but even more, it’s about recognizing the profound level of skill and talent that refugees bring to every community they join. 


Topics:

  • How Jina’s upbringing shaped her views on home, strength, and belonging
  • The vital link between livelihood, dignity, and identity for refugees
  • Why refugee women face unique challenges and lead bold transformations
  • Common myths about refugee skills and the systemic barriers they face
  • How workforce inclusion benefits not just individuals, but entire economies


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Home in Many Places: Thao Nguyen on Heritage, Art and Connection04 Dec 202500:54:42

Musician Thao Nguyen joins Suzanne this week on Not Really Strangers for a heartfelt conversation about family, heritage and the power of art to process identity and loss. Thao shares her parents’ remarkable journey as Vietnamese refugees, the emotional experience of returning to Vietnam with her mother decades later, and how her albums A Man Alive and Temple became tools for self-discovery and liberation. They explore what it means to call multiple places “home,” the role of language as a personal and artistic currency, and the unique way live performance connects strangers in moments of shared humanity. This episode is a moving reflection on belonging, bearing witness and the stories that shape who we are.


Topics

  • Thao’s childhood in Falls Church, Virginia, growing up in a close-knit Vietnamese refugee community
  • Thao’s parents’ story of leaving Vietnam, meeting in a refugee camp, and building a new life in the U.S
  • How returning to Vietnam with her mother reshaped her understanding of home, loss, and heritage
  • The role of music, specifically her albums A Man Alive and Temple, in helping Thao process identity, grief, and self-love
  • Why words and language became Thao’s most valuable tools for expression
  • How performance creates space for authentic connection between strangers


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Human Rights and Democracy in the Age of AI: A Conversation with Malika Saada Saar11 Dec 202500:49:23

In the latest episode of Not Really Strangers, Suzanne sits down with Malika Saada Saar, a human rights lawyer and tech policy strategist whose career spans grassroots advocacy to leadership roles at Google and YouTube. Malika shares how she fought to end the shackling of incarcerated women in childbirth, founded Rights4Girls to combat child trafficking and worked to embed human rights into global tech platforms. Together, they explore the intersections of displacement, vulnerability and innovation and why designing from the margins creates stronger, more just systems. Malika also reflects on collapsing the concept of “stranger” and reimagining belonging in our communities and technologies.


Topics:

  • Malika’s path from community organizing to human rights law and why she chose that framework over civil rights
  • Her groundbreaking advocacy to end the shackling of incarcerated pregnant women
  • The intersection of displacement, trafficking and technology — and how refugees face heightened vulnerabilities
  • Lessons from embedding human rights into Google and YouTube’s policies, products and partnerships
  • Collapsing the concept of “stranger” and reimagining community, belonging and design from the margins


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Building Home, Far From Home: The Power of Education, Family and Refugee Voices with Nabin Dhimal16 Dec 202500:34:53

Today Nabin Dhimal joins Suzanne for the final episode of season one of Not Really Strangers Suzanne originally met Nabin in Geneva at the Global Refugee Forum, where he helped her feel at home and confident in her then-new position as the executive director and CEO of USA for UNHCR. Nabin was born in a refugee camp in Nepal after his family was displaced from Bhutan, and he later resettled in Portland, Oregon. Today, he’s a master’s student at Georgetown University, an advocate for refugees, and a community builder. In this conversation, he and Suzanne explore what it means to call a place “home,” how food and education shape identity and why being a “stranger” is so often just a matter of being misunderstood. Nabin’s story invites us to see how deeply intertwined our lives really are and how, by listening more closely, we start to realize we’re not really strangers after all.


Topics Discussed:

  • Nabin’s journey from Bhutan to a refugee camp in Nepal, and eventually to Portland, Oregon
  • The emotional toll and hope embedded in the refugee resettlement process
  • The meaning of home, belonging and identity as a Bhutanese-Nepali refugee
  • How education, vulnerability and storytelling helped Nabin build community in the U.S.
  • The role of food and tradition in maintaining cultural roots across continents


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What Actor Kristin Davis Witnessed as Families Flee Sudan’s Brutal War16 Apr 202600:31:20

In the inaugural episode of season two of Not Really Strangers, host Suzanne Ehlers speaks with Kristin Davis, internationally acclaimed actress and UNHCR Goodwill Ambassador, fresh off a visit to South Sudan to see the organization’s response to the deepening emergency caused by the war in Sudan. Kristin shares how an encounter at a Hollywood party first connected her to UNHCR, and what she witnessed at the Joda border crossing and Renk transit center: families arriving with nothing, safe spaces shuttered due to funding cuts and the gut-wrenching reality of women and children receiving only a high-calorie biscuit as their first meal after harrowing journeys through a war zone. But alongside the devastation, she also found extraordinary resilience in a group of teenage girls reclaiming their voices at a program called Girl Shine, and in a woman named Jacqueline who, after being displaced three times, opened a tea shop and hired her first employee. Kristin and Suzanne reflect on the difference between humanitarianism and politics, what it means to truly see another person and why — no matter where in the world Kristin has traveled — she has never once felt like a stranger.

Topics Discussed:

  • How a chance encounter at a Hollywood party connected Kristin to UNHCR and set the course of her advocacy work
  • What Kristin witnessed at the Joda border crossing and Renk Transit Center — and what was devastatingly missing
  • The human impact of funding cuts: safe spaces closed and hot meals gone for families arriving with almost nothing after violent and dangerous journeys
  • Girl Shine: the safe space near Juba where displaced teenage girls are learning to use their voices, understand their rights and imagine different futures
  • Jacqueline's tea shop: the story of a woman displaced three times who built a small business from scratch and hired her first employee
  • Why Kristin believes humanitarianism must be separated from politics and why it's everyone's responsibility
  • What "stranger" means to someone who has never felt like one and the shared humanity that makes that possible

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Caring in Crisis and Responding to Hate: Dr. Suzanne Barakat’s Story23 Apr 202600:38:16

In this episode of Not Really Strangers, host Suzanne Ehlers welcomes her "name twin" — Dr. Suzanne Barakat, physician, humanitarian, and a leading voice on refugee health, asylum medicine, and countering Islamophobia. 

Dr. Barakat, who is from North Carolina, traces her connection to the refugee experience back to her own roots: from summers in Syria and then two years of high school there, to watching as an adult as the Syrian crisis forced her her extended family— who once all lived on the same street — to relocate  across the globe. She describes her journey as a doctor caring for those in crisis, including returning again and again to the Syrian-Turkish border, and shares her most recent trip topost-regime Syria to bear witness and help forge the country’s forensic response .

Dr. Barakat also shares the gripping story she shared in her popular TED Talk: when she was still a medical student, a white supremacist broke into her family members’ home in Chapel Hill, North Carolina and murdered them while they were eating dinner. She asks the question: What if rather than “otherize” her relatives, the perpetrator of this hate crime had sat down and gotten to know them? And what can we learn from this unspeakable tragedy about the power of asking, as leaders, “Who is not at this table, and needs to be?”

This conversation raises important questions about our shared humanity and gets to the heart of what the Not Really Strangers podcast is all about.  

Topics Discussed:

  • Growing up between North Carolina and Syria; two formative years of high school in Idlib
  • The slow, devastating displacement of Dr. Barakat's extended Syrian family
  • Volunteering on the Syria-Turkey border: clinical work under impossible conditions, language barriers, and dignity of care
  • Otherization as the root cause of violence and genocide
  • The 2015 Chapel Hill murders of Dr. Bakarat’s family and her fight to have them recognized as a hate crime
  • Visiting Syria six weeks after the fall of the Assad regime; bearing witness to the destroyed town of Wulta
  • Shaping Syria's national forensic response: missing persons, mass graves, and the imperative of local leadership
  • Why justice, including narrative acknowledgment, is inseparable from peace
  • Confronting implicit bias and the moral courage required to act
  • Finding purpose after personal trauma: the SF Muslim Fellowship
  • The dinner table as a question of inclusion: who is not here and needs to be?

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Dance or Die: Ahmad Joudeh on Statelessness, Belonging, and the Body as Home30 Apr 202600:27:22

In this episode of Not Really Strangers, host Suzanne Ehlers sits down with internationally acclaimed ballet dancer, choreographer, author, and humanitarian Ahmad Joudeh. Born stateless in 1990 in Yarmouk, a Palestinian refugee camp in Damascus, Ahmad carries a story that is both extraordinary and deeply representative of the millions of people around the world who exist without nationality, without a passport, and without a country that claims them as its own. When Syria's civil war broke out, Ahmad faced death threats from extremists simply for dancing; he responded by performing in the ruins of Palmyra's Roman amphitheater and having "Dance or Die" tattooed on the back of his neck.

The conversation moves from the body as a home that carries East and West, grief and resistance, within a single dance to what it felt like to finally hold a Dutch passport and "see life in colors." Ahmad also reflects on his upcoming role as Young Gilgamesh in a new opera as a meditation on power, love, and the kind of legacy that outlasts any government. Lastly, when asked what he wants on the dinner table, his answer is immediate: "I don't care what is on there. I care who is in there." This is an episode about the distance — real and invented — between those we call strangers.

Topics Discussed:

  • What statelessness actually means, how it differs from being a refugee, and navigating borders without a passport
  • The generational cycle of Palestinian statelessness in Syria, from the Arab-Israeli war to the present day,
  • The role documentary filmmaker Roozbeh Kaboly played in bringing Ahmad's story to the world and how the Dutch National Ballet changed the course of his life
  • How Ahmad merges classical ballet with Sufi dervish tradition in his dance, and what it means to carry culture, ancestry, and resistance in physical movement
  • What the Dutch passport represented: belonging as a privilege, not just a right,  and what it feels like to "see life in colors"
  • Why Ahmad continues to post on social media: reaching young people in the Middle East who deserve to see that freedom is possible
  • The myth Ahmad most wants to bust about displacement, identity, and what it actually means to be a stranger


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From Assumption to Curiosity: Susanna Pollack on Immersive Media and the Distance Between Us07 May 202600:27:21

Susanna Pollack, President of Games for Change and a cross-sector leader with over 25 years of experience in traditional and interactive media, joins host Suzanne Ehlers for a conversation that bridges virtual worlds and lived realities. From Clouds Over Sidra — the UN's landmark VR film set inside a Syrian refugee camp — to the immersive theater of The Jungle, the award-winning text-based game Bury Me, My Love, and Minecraft Education's use in displaced communities, Susanna illustrates how games and immersive media can build empathy, teach skills, and restore agency in ways few other mediums can match. She also reflects on Games for Change's growing partnership with the UN through the Games and SDG Summit, and on her experience with USA for UNHCR's innovation hub, The Hive, before closing with one of the episode's most resonant ideas: that a stranger is simply someone whose story you haven't heard yet, and that the shift from assumption to curiosity is where belonging begins.

Topics:

  • Home as community, belonging, and shared purpose beyond a physical address
  • Games as education and skills-building tools within refugee camps and integration classrooms
  • Minecraft Education's use in displaced communities for digital literacy and future-building
  • Games for Change: 20+ years at the intersection of the gaming industry and social impact
  • USA for UNHCR's Hive innovation hub: where creativity meets humanitarian context
  • Gaming's global scale: 3+ billion players; the industry is larger than film, TV, and radio combined
  • Cross-sector partnerships as the engine of meaningful social change
  • The stranger as potential: moving from assumption to curiosity

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Grit, Gathering and Going for It: Maryam Banikarim on Living Life Wherever You Find Yourself14 May 202600:39:55

In this episode of Not Really Strangers, host Suzanne Ehlers sits down with Maryam Banikarim, an Emmy Award-winning storyteller, community builder, and host of The Messy Parts podcast, for a conversation that moves from the streets of Chelsea to the streets of Tehran, and back again. Maryam, who fled Iran as a child and arrived in the United States in the middle of the hostage crisis, reflects on what it means to build a sense of home when home is not a fixed place. She shares how New York City became the city where she found her voice, raised her family, and  began setting the longest table in the neighborhood. She also opens up about the experience of cultural estrangement and offers hard-won wisdom for young people who have had to flee — joining, doing, and refusing to wait to be invited. Throughout, she returns again and again to the idea that belonging is not something that happens to you, but rather something you build, one long table at a time.


Topics Discussed:

  • The concept of home as a visceral feeling, not a fixed geography
  • What it means to be a stranger and conversely, to be welcomed
  • Growing up displaced: Maryam's experience fleeing Iran as a child
  • "Cultural estrangement" and the longing that comes with forced departure
  • Building community in New York City: NYCNext and The Longest Table
  • The role of the private sector in supporting displaced communities
  • Advice for young people who have had to flee their home countries
  • How displacement can be a driver of innovation and resilience
  • Returning to Iran in 1993 — and finding her childhood bedroom frozen in time
  • What it means to pull up the piano bench and make room for one more


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Building Better Futures for Refugees: The Power of Education21 May 202600:30:04

In this episode of Not Really Strangers, Suzanne Ehlers sits down with two UNHCR DAFI scholarship recipients and leaders of the Tertiary Refugee Student Network (TRSN) — Monicah Malith, a law graduate from South Sudan now completing her Advocates Training Program in Nairobi, and Krista Rivas, a Nicaraguan architecture and international relations student finishing her final semester in Mexico City. Together, they explore what home means when you've been displaced, the unexpected ways education equalizes and amplifies, and what they want people who've never met a refugee to understand about our shared humanity. The episode also shines a light on the practical advocacy both are doing: Monicah coaching new DAFI applicants on how to connect their story to their scholarship application, and Krista and TRSN building a centralized website and English-language YouTube channel for refugees in Mexico navigating higher education without a scholarship. Both guests reflect honestly on self-doubt alongside pride — Monicah on walking into her first law orientation in a suit and feeling out of place; Krista on managing social anxiety before a high-stakes internship interview. And both return to the same conviction: that education gave them a voice they intend to use for others still on the path behind them.


Topics:

  • What "home" means after displacement for Monicah and Krista
  • The DAFI (the Albert Einstein German Academic Refugee Initiative) scholarship experience and current educational journeys
  • Monicah's election as first international student president at the University of Nairobi
  • Krista's hospital design thesis and internship news
  • The funding gap: no new DAFI scholarships for Mexico in 2025, and Building Better Futures
  • What refugees and non-refugees share — empathy, migration, and adapting to new places
  • Pride, self-doubt, and being the first in your family to graduate
  • What it means to be a "stranger" to both women and how you stop being one


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“It’s a Power Question”: On Wakanda, Funding Change, and Compassion Across Oceans with Global Leader Ada Williams Prince28 May 202600:31:11

In this episode of Not Really Strangers, host Suzanne Ehlers sits down with global leader and major sci-fi fan Ada Williams Prince to discuss how her career spanning multiple continents has shaped the way she thinks about the best way to fund social change. Ada shares how she first came to feel a personal connection to the issue of forced displacement and why it’s not just a humanitarian crisis – it is also a political crisis, a gender crisis, and a climate crisis. Ada also makes a compelling case for what she calls a “liberation practice”: designing investment strategies not in boardrooms but by and with the communities most affected on the frontlines of a crisis. Threaded throughout this episode is a meditation on power, and how people having power over systems is what creates lasting change. 


Topics Discussed:

  • Ada’s time working as an emergency program manager in Aceh, Indonesia after the 2004 tsunami and the reminder that compassion crosses oceans, and the visceral connection between forced migration stories.
  • Understanding that forced displacement is never just a humanitarian crisis but a political crisis, a gender crisis, a climate crisis, and a failure of systems.
  • The centering of women and children in displacement narratives: chronic underfunding, the dangers of defaulting to male-centered imagery, and the specific vulnerabilities that women and girls face inside protracted displacement.
  • Reframing philanthropy as a liberation practice where we have to shape the investment strategy itself; not just funding change, but changing who gets to define what change is.
  • Meaningful examples of progress within the humanitarian aid system (water placement in South Sudan camps, lights on paths to latrines in Guinea) and the question of what the transformational next move looks like.
  • Who gets portrayed as a worthy recipient of aid, whose suffering is made legible, and who gets to construct those stories.
  • How strangeness/otherness is being weaponized and entire populations are made to feel like strangers in countries they built


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