In today’s episode, we shine a spotlight on Linc Thelen, a Chicago-based artist who plays a key role in Arthouse, an unscripted home design television show. Produced by Crewest Studio and supported by the nonprofit Arterial, NOT REAL ART’s fiscal sponsor, Arthouse aims to bridge the gap between talented artists and everyday people, redefining how art is experienced in personal spaces. With a mission to democratize art, Arthouse empowers viewers to curate authentic artwork that aligns with their tastes without straining their budgets. The show's concept centers on eliminating intimidation in art collecting, providing local artists with a platform to showcase their work directly to buyers.

To support this vision, Arthouse is launching a crowdfunding campaign to raise $150,000 to produce a full-length pilot episode. Set in Chicago, the pilot will follow an individual or family as they explore local art scenes, visit artist studios, and make informed purchasing decisions with the help of host Carmen Acosta. The campaign, running from June 10 to July 25, 2025, on Indiegogo, offers a unique opportunity for art lovers to contribute to a project that aims to transform the way we perceive and appreciate art in our daily lives.

As the featured artist in the Arthouse sizzle reel, filmed in Chicago last year, Linc brings a unique perspective on how this groundbreaking initiative is reshaping the relationship between artists and the public. With a mission to connect real people with authentic art, Arthouse aims to eliminate the barriers that often separate original artwork from everyday life. 

Linc also shares his artistic evolution, discussing the challenges he has faced while navigating the contemporary art scene. His involvement with Arthouse reflects his deep commitment to making art accessible to everyone, not just art collectors and gallery-goers. Throughout our conversation, Linc emphasizes the importance of fostering emotional connections through art, reminding us that the true value of a piece lies in its ability to resonate with individuals on a personal level. Listen to our conversation with Linc Thelen on the player above, or support Arthouse here. 

Links mentioned in this episode: 

Arterial

Arthouse

Arthouse on Indiegogo

ArtsvilleUSA

Crewest Studio

First Friday Exhibitions

Linc Thelen

Linc Thelen on Instagram

NOT REAL ART

NOT REAL ART Podcast

Remote Video Series

Scott “Sourdough” Power

For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/linc-thelen-arthouse

In today’s episode, we’re thrilled to welcome Carmen Acosta, also known as Jane Dope, back to the podcast. The experienced LA artist and curator will soon assume her new role as host of the unscripted home design television show “Arthouse.” Produced by Crewest Studio and supported by the nonprofit Arterial, NOT REAL ART’s fiscal sponsor, “Arthouse” aims to bridge the gap between talented artists and everyday people, redefining how art is experienced in personal spaces. With a mission to democratize art, “Arthouse” empowers viewers to curate authentic artwork that aligns with their tastes without straining their budgets. The show's concept centers on eliminating intimidation in art collecting, providing local artists with a platform to showcase their work directly to buyers.

To support this vision, “Arthouse” is launching a crowdfunding campaign with a goal of raising $150,000 to produce a full-length pilot episode. Set in Chicago, the pilot will follow an individual or family as they explore local art scenes, visit artist studios, and make informed purchasing decisions with help from Carmen. The campaign, running from June 10 to July 25, 2025, on Indiegogo, offers a unique opportunity for art lovers to contribute to a project that aims to transform the way we perceive and appreciate art in our daily lives.

Scott “Sourdough” Power, the creator of “Arthouse” and NOT REAL ART, as well as the visionary behind the nonprofit arts media platform Arterial, emphasizes that the show is more than just a way to sell art—it's about cultivating emotional connections between artists, buyers, and viewers. As Carmen steps into her role, she’s eager to lead this movement that celebrates creativity and makes art accessible for all. Don’t miss her insights on how “Arthouse” aims to reshape the way we engage with art and artists alike.

Links mentioned in this episode: 

Arterial

Arthouse

ArtsvilleUSA

Carmen Acosta

Carmen Acosta on Instagram

Carmen Acosta on NOT REAL ART

Crewest Studio

First Friday Exhibitions

NOT REAL ART

NOT REAL ART Podcast

Remote Video Series

Scott “Sourdough” Power

For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/arthouse-host-carmen-acosta

Is there life after layoff? Today, former creative director Carmen Acosta, aka Jane Dope, joins us to talk about resilience, the lessons she learned during her recent career transition, and how she found renewed passion in creative pursuits after leaving her corporate job. 

As the former creative director at Sofi Stadium, Carmen played a key role in shaping the stadium’s brand identity with her innovative ideas. From her debut group show in Los Angeles in 2008 to curating over 25 art exhibitions in various locations, Carmen’s story is one of purpose and dedication. 

In this episode, we dive into her unique experiences and her commitment to uplifting local artists while navigating the challenges of the entertainment industry. Carmen opens up about a major turning point in her career—her transition into voiceover work after a layoff—and shares her excitement about exploring this new avenue of artistic expression. 

We also touch on the idea of resilience—Carmen shares some personal and professional challenges she’s faced while adapting to change. Her journey is a powerful reminder to stay flexible and embrace new opportunities. Whether you’re an artist, an art lover, or just someone who enjoys a good story, this episode is packed with advice for navigating the ever-changing art ecosystem.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Arterial

ArtsvilleUSA

Carmen Acosta Website

First Friday Exhibitions

NOT REAL ART

NOT REAL ART Podcast

Remote Video Series

For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/carmen-acosta

The contemporary art establishment isn’t exactly known for its accessibility. In fact, the industry is far more notorious as a toxic purveyor of snobbery and pretentiousness than anything else. This exclusionary mindset discourages artists, art lovers, and buyers alike from ever venturing into the art world to discover their favorite works or develop their creative passions. 

On today’s podcast episode, NOT REAL ART digital strategist Juergen Berkessel hops into the interviewer’s seat for the first time to chat with our regular host and founder, Scott “Sourdough” Power. Scott discusses his vision for NOT REAL ART, explaining how the organization serves artists and art lovers by rejecting the elitism that defines much of the traditional art world. “We want to democratize the arts,” he says early in the interview. “We believe art is for the people and should be accessible to all the people. And so we wanted to speak to those people, and hopefully, let them know that we're for them.” 

With a passion for supporting emerging and upcoming artists, Scott designed NOT REAL ART to empower, educate, and inspire professional artists of all stripes. In his interview he shares some of the programming that lets NOT REAL ART support a wide range of talented artists year after year, including the annual grant, a growing network of podcasts, and the smARTtalks educational series. He also lets us in on the lightbulb moment behind the organization’s name: “When ‘NOT REAL ART’ hit me, it sort of hit me, as many good names do, right in the gut. I just knew that it was the right one, it resonated. I had a visceral reaction.”

You’ll also hear Scott’s thoughts on what art means to him, and why it’s the artists themselves who truly motivate him to do the work. After all, without the artists, there would be no art. Tune into this week’s podcast to hear all about NOT REAL ART from the founder himself. 

In Today’s Podcast Episode

Scott Power and Juergen Berkessel discuss…

• The story behind how NOT REAL ART got its name
• Why it was important for the organization’s name to resonate with artists
• The organization’s goal to democratize art and create a welcoming space for artists and art lovers
• How the organization expresses appreciation for artists through support and advocacy
• The annual NOT REAL ART grant for artists, how it’s grown, and how it’s changing
• The growing network of podcasts under the NOT REAL ART organization
• The NOT REAL ART School and what it has to teach artists about the business of art
• Why The NOT REAL ART School is such a great resource for artists
• Information on the smARTtalks education series and how you can take part
• Scott’s three wishes for the future of NOT REAL ART

For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/scott-sourdough-power-interview

Welcome back to part two of our very special series on the Nepal Street Art Project, a collaborative endeavor between Nepali artists and Crewest Studio co-founder Man One. If you missed part one, head to last week’s episode to catch up on the project’s impact on historic Nepali cities Janakpur and Kathmandu.

In today’s episode, NOT REAL ART founder and host Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with three key players of the Nepal Street Art Project to discuss how government exchange programs can benefit the arts. He’s joined by Project Curator Kailash K. Shrestha of Nepali art collective Artudio, Project Coordinator Sarah Knight of the US Embassy in Nepal, and street artist extraordinaire Man One, who was invited by the US Embassy to serve as an ambassador of American contemporary art.

Organized by Kathmandu-based art collective Artudio in collaboration with the US Embassy in Nepal, the Nepal Street Art Project showcases and celebrates socially excluded communities in the region with curatorial projects in Janakpur and Kathmandu. Combining research, cross-cultural exchange, and public workshops, the project’s main objective is to establish critical public discourse on key issues surrounding equity and diversity.

“It’s about inclusion,” says Project Curator Kailash K. Shrestha. “Sharing ideas, being on one platform, and talking about it, having [deeper conversations] about our art practices; that’s the pure form of inclusion and equity.” The three stakeholders chat with Scott about the impact of government-funded exchange programs like the Nepal Street Art Project, highlighting the benefits to artists, organizations, and taxpayers. “What’s the value [of art and cultural exchange programs] to an American taxpayer” asks Project Coordinator Sarah Knight. “World peace. But really, the exchange between people and communicating different policy areas in a way that reaches more people than some of our traditional programs would.”

Tune in to part two of our Nepal series to learn more about the cultural significance of graffiti and the unifying power of public art.

In Today’s Episode

Scott “Sourdough” Power and Man One discuss…

• The inspiration behind the Nepal Street Art Project
• The US Embassy’s partnership with Kathmandu-based contemporary art collective Artudio
• How (and why) Artudio encourages artists to practice art in public spaces
• Curator Kailash K. Shrestha’s inclusive selection process for the project artists
• How the project’s key themes of diversity, social inclusion, and equity evolved
• Why “the universal language of art” is so much more than just a phrase
• The value of creative exchange programs to American taxpayers
• Why the process behind a project like this is more important than “success”
• Why artists have to “create their own fate” and adopt an entrepreneurial attitude
• The lasting impact the Nepal Street Art Project created on its participants

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/nepal-street-art-project-part-two

Late in 2022 street artist extraordinaire Man One traveled to Nepal to participate in a cultural exchange program designed to celebrate the voices of Nepali minorities. Over a two week period, the California-based muralist—who also serves as co-founder of NOT REAL ART parent company, Crewest Studio—collaborated with Nepali artists on a unique public mural project promoting diversity, inclusion, and equality. 

In today’s podcast episode, NOT REAL ART founder and host Scott “Sourdough” Power discusses the Nepal Street Art Project through a series of man-on-the-street interviews. Scott chats with those intimately involved in the project, including Man One and Project Coordinator Sarah Knight, who calls the venture “a people-to-people exchange through the arts that is particularly [focused] on the topic of social inclusion and diversity.”

Combining research, cross-cultural exchange, and public workshops, the project’s main objective is to establish critical public discourse on key issues surrounding inclusion and equity. Powered by the creative potential of street art to inspire social change, the project showcases and celebrates socially excluded communities in the region with curatorial projects in Janakpur and Kathmandu. The final outcome is “The Wall of Unity,” collaborative mural designed by Nepali artists from diverse ethnic, geographic, and creative backgrounds. Organized by Kathmandu-based contemporary art collective Artudio in collaboration with the US Embassy in Nepal, the project featured the incredible talents of Khem Bahadur Palpali, Kiran Maharjan, Sudeep Balla, Manisha Shah, and Man One.

“There’s not a lot of data that we can show to say, ‘Look how successful this program was,’ says Project Coordinator Sarah Knight, who serves as the cultural affairs officer for the US Embassy in Nepal. “But when you’re here, when you’re seeing people interact and change their minds about [street art] and start important dialogues, you see the value happen. No matter how the art turns out, I’d say that it has been a very successful program.” 

Tune in today’s episode to hear more about the power of street art in the fight for social change. 

In Today’s Episode

Scott “Sourdough” Power discusses…

• Project Coordinator Sarah Knight’s crucial contribution to the exchange program
• Why the US Embassy and Artudio chose to work in Janakpur and Kathmandu for this project
• How Man One worked with a local Nepali school to teach the students about graffiti 
• Modern Mithila painting, a traditional style of art practiced in India and Nepal
• How Nepali artists honor tradition while making space for contemporary expression
• The significance of the location where the “Wall of Unity” appears, near Nepal’s Parliament
• The one word that summarizes the message of this mural: “ekata” (unity)
• The varied ways this project challenges conventional ideas about art in Nepal

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/nepal-street-art-project-part-one

Organization and management are important skills in a professional artist’s toolkit. In fact, organization is such an important part of being a successful artist that today’s guest has built an entire career around it. 

On today’s podcast episode, NOT REAL ART founder and host Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Artwork Archive co-founder Justin Anthony to discuss the platform’s mission to give artists, collectors, and organizations a better way to manage their art. Now over a decade strong, Artwork Archive provides a cloud database and inventory system for thousands of creative people and organizations in over 130 countries. “The three original tiers [of Artwork Archive were] get organized, manage your business, and share your art with the world, so those are the three things we have continued to double down on,” Justin tells us. 

A small company based in Denver, Artwork Archive works closely with their core client base to develop a system intuitive enough for emerging artists and powerful enough for complex organizations managing global collections. Justin gives us the scoop on Artwork Archive’s origin story, discusses their commitment to education, and shares his view on professional success: “If your ultimate goal is to put these wonderful [artworks] out in the world, I do think having some business savvy facilitates not just your creative process but your ability to grow.”

Scott and Justin also reflect on some paths artists can take to diversify and monetize their practice, and why mainstream or commercial work should be destigmatized. Whether you’re a lean, mean organization like NOT REAL ART or an emerging artist desperately searching for a way to manage your growing body of work, our interview with Justin Anthony is sure to spark your imagination. Tune in to today’s episode to learn more about how Artwork Archive is arming artists with the tools they need to succeed.

On Today’s Podcast Episode

Justin Anthony and Scott Power discuss…

• Artwork Archive’s origin story and mission 
• How Justin and his business partner manage Artwork Archive’s explosive growth
• Some of the “unsexy” things that are critical for driving an artist’s success
• Why a basic understanding of business is critical for contemporary artists
• How “selling out” can drive your practice forward without diminishing your body of work
• The benefits of creating smaller, limited-edition prints of your original work
• How artists, collectors, and organizations can manage their work with Artwork Archive’s robust inventory system
• Why artists should never underestimate the power of their personal story
• The recent obsession with digital art and NFTs: friend or FOMO?

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/artwork-archive

By most measures, time is priceless. But as mere mortals, we still need to take practical matters into consideration when it comes to selling our time, managing expectations, and paying bills.

On today’s podcast, NOT REAL ART founder and host Scott “Sourdough” Power is back to weigh in on the value of time in an artist’s life. “From a spiritual perspective, time is priceless and it’s precious and we need to honor it and guard it,” he says. “It’s sacred. We shouldn’t waste it. This notion of the preciousness and the sacredness of time has guided my life in many ways.”

Scott opens up about his own experiences with the complicated concept of time, explaining how living in the wilderness changed his perception of temporality. He also shares a hilarious anecdote about a certain time management seminar that should make listeners empathize while they howl with laughter. Ultimately, Scott sees time as a precious resource that deserves priority in our lives. “We need to be way more thoughtful and considerate and disciplined and rigorous about how we use our time and the choices we make and who we give our time to,” he says. 

A measured consideration of time will look different from person to person, especially those with creative careers. Scott encourages artists to think of their time as an investment that will yield health, wealth, and happiness with small, incremental steps. “We talk about return on investment,” he ponders. “What about return on time? What are we doing to get time back? How do we make choices, how do we invest our limited resources of [time, treasure, and talent] to actually get time back to perhaps make more art or be with our families or be with our friends or go for a walk on the beach?” 

Tune in today’s podcast to hear how you can get the best possible “return on time” from any project, activity, or investment.

Key Points From This Episode:

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/the-value-of-time

Have you ever felt compelled to put your artistic calling on hold when there are bills to pay and mouths to feed? Sometimes life’s day-to-day responsibilities keep us from realizing our true creative potential. That was the case for Sherita Herring, an artist, philanthropist, and single mother who pushed her artistic dreams to the back burner in order to raise her two sons.

Today, host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Sherita and her son Crushow Herring, aka ShowzArt, to discuss the duo’s powerful creative collaboration. A former guest on the NOT REAL ART podcast, Crushow is an artist, activist, and community organizer who works to uplift LA’s unsheltered population. “Art took me off the streets,” he shares with us. “I felt like it could take [my mom] out of what she was in. I’m honored and there is just so much joy and pleasure to do [this] for her.” 

In today’s episode, you’ll learn more about Sherita’s inaugural solo exhibition, Beverly Hills to Barnyard, which features more than 30 original artworks from the artist. Curated by the mother and son team, the event takes place at the Brewery Artist Lofts in downtown LA, with all proceeds going to Sherita’s non-profit organization, the Philanthropy Alliance Foundation. Working in collaboration with each other, Sherita and Crushow are dedicated to the growth and prosperity of those struggling in their community. 

Her advice for artists at the beginning of their creative journey? “Follow your inner gut,” she advises. “Continue to do what you love and all of it will lead you to the path that is best for you. That’s how I ended up here.” Tune in to today’s compelling episode with Sherita and Crushow Herring to find out how instinct can lead you to a more creative place.

On Today’s Podcast Episode

Sherita and Crushow Herring discuss…

• Their excitement over Sherita’s inaugural solo exhibition, Beverly Hills to Barnyard
• The correlation between Sherita’s work as a business coach and her work as an artist
• Why doing what you love is like having “shock absorbers” for life’s bumpy road
• Their belief that our journey always leads us to what truly feeds our soul
• The different ways that each and every one of us is an artist at heart
• How government-funded programs can improve education, health, and community
• The importance of creating your own narrative in life
• How the two view Sherita’s role as both an artist and mother
• The uplifting message they hope viewers will take from their work

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/sherita-herring

Every year NOT REAL ART chooses six artists who push the boundaries of what’s possible in the art world. Those artists are awarded our annual grant for open-ended use. Established in 2019, the grant is designed to empower contemporary artists through financial backing and creative support. In today’s podcast episode, our host and founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with 2022 NOT REAL ART grant winner Buena Johnson to discuss the artist’s philosophy on art and positivity. 

Based in Los Angeles, Buena is a multidisciplinary artist and educator who counts Oprah Winfrey, Halle Berry, and Queen Latifah among her collectors. Her work has been showcased in the Smithsonian, The Getty Collection, and MOCA Los Angeles. Known for her sensitive portraiture and imaginative compositions, Buena promotes Black visibility in the arts using a combination of historical and spiritual imagery. “There wasn’t anyone that looked like me that was put in a positive light in art history,” Buena tells NOT REAL ART. “When I decided to do my own work, I had made a vow to myself that I would [put] Black and brown figures and people in my work because we weren’t put in any positive light at all.”

In our chat with Buena, she shares her journey from commercial artist in Chicago to thriving fine artist in LA. She also offers insight into her creative practice by discussing the subjects and themes she’s drawn to: Black American history, Black music, and spirituality. “My aim is to promote advancement, to promote hope, to propel [wellbeing],” says Buena, who is an active member of her community and advocates for positive change as an artist and instructor. By visually retelling our past, Buena not only serves as a storyteller, she brings hope and acts as a catalyst for constructive change. “My work is timely,” she says. “If it’s a visual retelling of our past, hopefully, it can correct what is happening in our future.” 

On Today’s Podcast

Buena Johnson discusses…

• How she felt about being named a NOT REAL ART grant winner
• Why she believes her artistic ability is an innate gift from God
• The all-consuming role art has played in her life since she was a child
• Her journey from commercial artist in Chicago to full-time fine artist in LA
• How she chooses her subject matter, which prominently features women and people of color
• Why giving back to her community is one of her greatest accomplishments
• How she promotes positivity through her work as an art teacher
• Her upcoming body of work, which aims to empower and uplift women

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/buena-johnson

Happy New Year, creative brothers and sisters! To help you ease out of holiday mode, we have a very special guest joining us for the first episode of the NOT REAL ART podcast in 2023. 

Today, host and founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Renaissance man Zack Norman. Zack is a true creative legend, working not only as an actor, director, producer, writer, and comedian but also as a musician, painter, art collector, and real estate developer. As a painter, he is known as Zack Zuker and began his art career in New York City in 1976. He has guest-starred in wildly popular series like The A-Team, Baywatch, and The Nanny, and has also been featured in several TV movies. As Howard Zuker, he has produced, presented, or financed more than forty movies, including Hearts and Minds, which won the Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature in 1975. 

You’ll also gain some insight into Zack’s fascinating life story, from his television debut at just 12 years old to the creation of his first painting at 36. As a teenager, Zack worked in nightclubs and developed a longstanding appreciation for comedy, citing Lenny Bruce as an inspiration. In college, he would pursue a career in acting, absorbing everything there was to know about the movie industry in the late ’60s. When Zack’s focus shifted to fine art in the ’70, he crossed paths with Jean-Michel Basquiat, Andy Warhol, and Keith Haring, three artists who would wind up in Zack's impressive art collection. 

Zack also shares how art brings him enduring joy, helping him understand his emotions with greater depth. “This is the beginning,” he says. “I want to keep growing because, as a kid, I never looked at a piece of art, never saw it or thought about it, and now it’s an integral part of my life.” Tune into today’s episode for a joyful conversation with Zack Norman.

In Today’s Episode

Zack Norman discusses…

• How he discovered his passion for art at the age of 36
• Why Lenny Bruce inspired him to be a comedian and actor
• What he learned about working in the film industry as an actor
• The story behind his many name changes over the years
• His proudest moment as a producer and film financier: Oscar-winner, Hearts and Minds
• When crossed paths with and collected works from Basquiat and Warhol
• How to build an art collection that will bring you joy
• What makes art great, and the new dimension it’s added to his life
• Why he encourages everyone to make art an integral part of their lives

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/zack-norman

Love design in all its forms? Then you’ll want to join us for today’s episode, which features an in-depth look at DesignerCon (DCON), an annual art and design convention in Anaheim, California. 

Combining collectible toys and designer goods with underground art, this year’s convention included over 700 vendors, custom art shows, and live demonstrations galore. At booth 1221, NOT REAL ART’s parent organization, Crewest Studio, took part in the festivities, joined by longtime friends Man One, Anne Martin of Sugar Press Art, and Javie Lopez and OneSaints from Graffiti the City.

In this week’s episode, you’ll hear from a few of the incredible artists, creative professionals, and art lovers who attended DCON 2022. NOT REAL ART founder and host Scott “Sourdough” Power conducts a series of man-on-the-street interviews with a whole host of art world luminaries. From illustrator and Rugrats co-executive producer Dave Pressler to Adventures in Design founder Mark Brickey, you’ll hear insight and commentary straight from the mouths of DCON participants. Other interviews include artist and creative director Nina Palomba, Zully from ZooDoo Dolls, digital artist and toy creator Alex Solis, and surrealist painter Mary Jhun.

“[At DCON], you get to interface with the artists, you get to talk to them, you get to actually meet people,” says Dave Presssler I look forward to not only meeting fans and collectors, but I get to see all my industry friends too that I don’t get to see all year.” 

For a little taste of design magic, make sure to tune into today’s episode on DCON 2022. 

In Today’s Podcast Episode

• Mark Brickey shares his perspective on the “transformative year” at DCON 2022
• Zully from ZooDoo Dolls offers some insight into her cute, creepy creations
• A look at the whimsical work Nina Palomba created in collaboration with Pretty in Plastic
• Why Dave Pressler believes that artists have to continually reinvent themselves and their ideas
• How artmaking helps Mary Jhun connect with people and understand life better
• A peek at the classic 1930 Model A Ford that Man One painted for DCON 2022
• Why DCON 2022 feels like a homecoming to Juan Muniz (aka Ninobuni), who created an illustrated book this year
• How Alex Solis combines physical toys with blockchain at DCON 2022
• Why having your artwork tattooed on someone’s body is the ultimate compliment

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/designercon-2022

No matter where you turn these days, you’re likely to encounter some form of discourse about the impact of Web3, NFTs, and blockchain technology. Of course, art and tech comprise exciting new frontiers for making and selling art, but what do artists need to know about these new media? Do they represent a real and fundamental shift in the art market, or are they simply new tools for artists and art lovers to enjoy?

By now, you’ve probably heard us mention smARTtalks, a series of intimate learning sessions covering relevant topics for artists and creatives working in the 21st century. On November 12, 2022, Crewest Studio—NOT REAL ART’s parent company—produced its second smARTalks event, held at Helms Bakery District in Culver City. In today’s podcast episode, we look back at our fascinating conversation on NFTs, “Has Digital Art Finally Earned Respect? How Web3, NFTs, AR, VR, AI, and The Metaverse Are Impacting The Art World.”

Featuring the creative minds and expertise of Ronnie Pirovino, Daniel Nomad, and Rad Laser Falcon, this discussion explores how artists can get into the NFT space, ways they can create additional engagement with collectors and the creative community, and some of the benefits these emerging digital tools have to offer artists, collectors, and art lovers alike. By educating yourself about new technologies and platforms, you’ll be better positioned for future opportunities. Don’t miss this insightful conversation on the future of digital art.

In Today’s Podcast Episode: 

• Tips for integrating the contemporary art world into the NFT space
• Distinguishing between cryptocurrency, NFTs, and digital art
• How NFTs help artists and collectors track the provenance of an artwork
• Reflecting on the prevalence of crypto wallets among the general population
• How your digital wallet can form an extension of your identity
• How Web3 facilitates communication, while Web2 only aids broadcasting
• A look at why Web3 is a great space for collaborative, community-minded artists
• How artists can connect with collectors and customize their profit from secondary sales
• Responding to questions about minting, leveraging the blockchain, displaying digital art, and more from the audience

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/nfts

What happens when a two-time Emmy Award-winning television executive decides to flip the script on her career? In this episode of the NOT REAL ART podcast, host Scott "Sourdough" Power uncovers the remarkable story of Shannon Malone-deBenedictis—a creative entrepreneur transforming the media landscape. From sharing the screen with Hollywood legends to forging her own path with the artist mentorship organization Padlin Creative, Shannon’s story is a powerful testament to resilience and authenticity. 

Throughout our conversation, we explore Shannon’s history in documentary filmmaking, where she’s had the privilege of working alongside legendary figures like James Cameron and Sigourney Weaver. It’s fascinating to hear her reflect on her transition from the bustling world of television to launching her own venture, Padlin Creative. This new endeavor is more than just a career shift for her; it’s a heartfelt mission. With the media landscape in constant flux, she’s deeply committed to mentoring creatives and providing them with the essential tools they need to thrive. 

Shannon also opens up about her experiences as a plus-size woman navigating an often critical industry. She bravely shares the societal pressures she's faced and advocates for a culture that promotes acceptance and self-empowerment. Her workshop, Fully Unapologetic, is a powerful call to action for women everywhere to embrace their true selves without fear or hesitation. It's a refreshing perspective that encourages confidence and self-worth, and it highlights how essential authenticity is to the creative process. Whether you’re an established artist or just starting out, Shannon’s insights will inspire you to embrace your identity and cultivate your creative journey unapologetically. Join us as we explore her mission and discover how embracing your true self can redefine success.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Arterial

ArtsvilleUSA

First Friday Exhibitions

NOT REAL ART

NOT REAL ART Podcast

PADLIN CREATIVE

Remote Video Series

For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/shannon-malone-debenedictis-padlin-creative

A longtime friend and creative collaborator with NOT REAL ART, today’s guest has a name that matches her unique style. As you’ll discover in this episode, Katie Love writes, performs, and creates from the heart. Based in Los Angeles, Katie is a comedian, writing coach, producer, and the author of three books. Her latest title, Two Tickets To Paradise: From Cult to Comedy, was recently published by NOT REAL ART parent company Crewest Studio to critical acclaim. 

Katie’s personal memoir tells the humorous and heartbreaking story of an earnest, bible-toting kid intent on saving the world, and follows Katie’s metamorphosis into a boisterous comedian intent on saving herself through the healing power of humor. 

In today’s episode, Katie offers us an overview of the story she tells in Two Tickets To Paradise and explains how it knits together the comedy and tragedy of her life. “Comedy-tragedy is what I know and what I’ve had to live through, but it’s also the thing that healed me,” she tells host Scott “Sourdough” Power. “Without a sense of humor—even if I didn’t do comedy as an outlet—I don’t know where I would be.”

You’ll find out why Katie believes we are the gods of our own stories, what she means when she refers to herself as a “cunt tank,” and why she has dedicated this book to all the truth-seekers and misfits out there. Listeners everywhere are bound to find inspiration in Katie’s remarkable story, which ultimately ends in joy and laughter despite the darkness. Buy the book here, and don’t miss our heartfelt and hilarious conversation with the one and only Katie Love.

In Today’s Episode:

Katie Love discusses…

• The personal story she tells in her memoir, Two Tickets To Paradise
• Her writing process and the themes she explores throughout the book
• Why she describes the book as “80 percent funny and 20 percent not funny at all!”
• The hilarious irony of choosing to leave her religion at a resort called Paradise Island
• Religion versus spirituality and the devastating impact that religion can have
• Why reading the tragic parts of her story was more difficult than writing them
• How she used writing to help her understand her own experiences
• The immense healing power of humor

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/katie-love

Here’s something you may not know: artists and creative entrepreneurs form part of a nearly 2 billion dollar segment of the global economy. For those who want to negotiate their place in this complex financial ecosystem, understanding an artist’s true economic value is absolutely critical.

In today’s podcast episode, brought to you by your ever-faithful host and founder, Scott “Sourdough” Power, you’ll learn to appreciate (and evaluate) the unique value you have to offer the world. “When you know what you’re worth, you have more leverage,” Scott says. “You’re more empowered to hold firm and negotiate better deals for yourself.” Join us as we take a look at a global study on the economic and social contribution of Cultural and Creative Industries (CCI) to the world economy and discuss some of its key takeaways.

While quantifying the value of creativity might be an exercise in subjectivity, there are a number of objective tools and techniques you can use to help determine what your time is worth. Tune in to this week’s special episode with Scott to find out more.

In Today's Episode:

Scott "Sourdough" Power discusses...

• The importance of knowing your worth in the global art economy
• Why quantifying the value of art, creativity, and design has always been a challenge
• Why you should feel empowered to stand up for your worth
• Key takeaways from the 2015 "global map of cultural and creative industries’"study.
• How knowing your worth can help you negotiate better deals for yourself

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/creative-economy

Whether we realize it or not, most of us have experienced some level of trauma over the past few years as we learned to navigate the fallout of COVID-19. As a result, we are changed people (and artists)—but what have we learned? How do we begin to process the impact of the pandemic? And where do we go from here? 

By now, you’ve probably heard us mention smARTtalks, a series of intimate learning sessions covering relevant topics for artists and creatives working in the 21st century. On September 24, 2022, Crewest Studio—NOT REAL ART’s parent company—produced its first smARTalks event, held at Helms Bakery District in Culver City. In today’s podcast episode, we look back on an especially important discussion held during the inaugural event: “Who Are We Now? A Discussion About COVID, Trauma + Creativity. How Did The Pandemic Hurt or Help Us and Our Creativity?”

Moderated by your intrepid host, Scott “Sourdough” Power, alongside trauma experts Dr. Kim Cookson and Eric Weiss, this discussion centers on wellness in arts. “Whether we’re walking around traumatized—some people are, some people are not—but everyone is working under a new level of stress,” says Dr. Cookson. “They’re having to negotiate a new reality.” 

Tune into today’s episode to catch some much-need discourse on the intersection of trauma and creativity, and how you can use art-making as a form of self-care. 

In Today’s Episode:

Dr. Kim Cookson and Eric Weiss discuss…

• The inherent trauma that comes with navigating COVID-19
• How artists were affected by lockdowns and isolation
• How trauma can influence and impact creativity
• Art as therapy: how artists can use their creativity for self-care
• Budget-friendly ways to regulate and manage trauma
• Helpful therapeutic methods such as somatic therapy
• How to promote activities that bring you joy
• Tips for finding your “escape hatch” and focusing on the positive
• The silver linings in and around post-traumatic growth

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/trauma-creativity

Creativity is rarely a “lightbulb moment.” In fact it usually arrives through a winding and non-linear process that involves self-understanding, improvisation, and a whole lot of uncertainty. 

That’s the belief of today’s guest, Lorne Buchman, president emeritus of the ArtCenter College of Design in Pasadena, California. ArtCenter is known as a world-class leader in art and design education, with some even referring to it as the Harvard of art, design, and creativity. When Lorne took office in 2009, he quickly challenged students, faculty, staff, alumni, and trustees to redefine what a great art and design college should look like in the 21st century. 

As the host of Art Center’s podcast Change Lab, Lorne interviews leading artists and designers to explore the ideas behind their work and discover how the creative process can act as a catalyst for change. In today’s podcast episode, NOT REAL ART founder and host Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Lorne to discuss his recently published book, Make to Know: From Spaces of Uncertainty to Creative Discovery, which illuminates the long, winding creative process of today’s top artists, innovators, entrepreneurs, and designers. 

Join us for today’s episode with Lorne Buchman as we unpack what it means to be a maker, what defines creativity, and how the creative process allows us to understand the world around us in new, exciting ways.

On Today’s Episode 

Lorne Buchman discusses…

• How he unpacks the four characteristics of “making”: uncertainty, material engagement, problem-solving, and improvisation
• Why we tend to celebrate some forms of creative improvisation over others
• Expanding the narrow definition of what it means to make
• The profound significance of democratizing creativity
• The immense value of observation and collective engagement
• What the world would look like if “design thinking” were taught in K-12 education
• How the creative process opens up whole new ways of understanding
• His tips for wrestling with failure and entering into uncertainty 
• How sharing personal stories can help instill courage in young creatives
• Why the act of making is just as important as the end product

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/lorne-buchman

While there are a number of e-commerce platforms available to artists, there are very few—if any—that seek to integrate art and community and enable engagement between artists, buyers, art lovers, and critics too. Today, we’re joined by Michael Facchinello, who is the founder and CEO of Altamira, a unique community-oriented marketplace for artists. 

Prior to Altamira, Michael spent eight years at Clique Studios, a top national design firm headquartered in Chicago. There, he started as a UX designer before transitioning into launching and managing new offices—but he felt compelled to create something meaningful that combined his tech expertise with his love of art. Altamira was born, offering artists the opportunity to gain recognition, sell their work, and become part of a thriving creative community. It allows art fans, commentators, and collectors to discover new artists, bringing them all together in an accessible space, all without the gatekeeping and snobbery often associated with the traditional art ecosystem. 

In today’s episode, Michael shares his mission to democratize art and help artists make a better living by promoting their work and connecting them with buyers. We also discuss the importance of facilitating interaction, “growing the pie,” and appealing to a broad audience. To find out how Altamira is integrating art, community, and commerce, tune in to our fascinating conversation with its founder, Michael Facchinello.

In Today’s Episode:

Michael Facchinello discusses…

• Why he decided to name his platform “Altamira”
• Altamira’s focus on facilitating community first, then commerce
• The challenges of competing on crowded digital art platforms
• The benefits of designing for both ends of the spectrum, from art experts to total novices
• Why anyone who is interested in art should be able to participate in the conversation
• The need for more business models that empower artists to promote their work
• How traditional gallery spaces don’t “grow the pie” for artists
• Why galleries are still an important part of the art ecosystem
• The importance of democratizing art, from an individual to a societal level

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/altamira

Art has the power to make people think twice, change their perspectives, and heighten their consciousness around important issues. For Puerto Rican artist NiNo Alicea, the destruction caused by climate change is the most pressing issue of our time. In today’s podcast episode, NiNo chats with host Scott “Sourdough” Power about his mission to raise climate awareness through art.

“A lot of my art has become a vessel to create more climate change awareness,” says NiNo, who was deeply affected by Hurricane Maria, the near-Category 5 storm that roared across his home island of Puerto Rico in 2017. During this episode, NiNo explains how the natural disaster moved him to focus on art with a message about climate change.

Crafted from pizza pans and recycled metal, NiNo’s solar-powered installation for this year’s Burning Man (2022) was created in honor of Atabey, the Caribbean goddess of fresh water and fertility. In this week’s episode, you’ll hear about the challenges NiNo faced bringing this spectacular creation to life. “I’m the first Puerto Rican that has ever brought art to the Playa,” he tells NOT REAL ART. “I’m trying to inspire others; I don’t want to be the only one.”

Tune into our chat with the one and only NiNo, who shares his hopes and dreams for our future on planet Earth. 

In Today’s Episode

Nino Alicea discusses…

• The environmental and humanitarian crisis in Puerto Rico
• How Hurricane Maria inspired him to change to focus of his work
• The experience of creating “Atabey’s Treasure,” his 2022 Burning Man installation
• How he designed the 18-foot sculpture from recycled materials
• His future plans for “Atabey’s Treasure”
• How he became the lead production designer for Ricky Martin
• His upcoming tour with Ricky Martin and what the future holds for the coming year

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/nino-alicea

Halloween is right around the corner, which means we’re back with our infamous Art World Horror Stories series. We’re not talking about ghosts, ghouls, and goblins though—in today’s podcast episode, you’ll hear some truly terrifying tales from artists who brave the ugly side of the art world.

You’ll hear about malicious gallery owners, neglectful shipping companies, and one graffiti artist’s very stinky encounter on the streets of San Francisco. “It could happen to anybody,” muses host Scott “Sourdough” Power. “That’s what art world horror stories are about. That’s why we want to share them, because it could happen to you.”

Presented by NOT REAL ART’s parent company, Crewest Studio, Art World Horror Stories is a podcast about bad things that happen to good artists. In today’s crossover episode, we delve into the spine-chilling stories usually reserved for the spookiest podcast in Crewest’s network.

While we’d rather gobble down treats than suffer through tricks, these stories offer insight into some of the baddies you’ll encounter in the art world. So dim the lights and settle in with a mug of cider or a few fun-size Snickers—we’ve got a few stories to tell. 

Got an art world horror story of your own? Call the NOT REAL ART hotline at 833-668-7325 and tell us about it!

In Today’s Episode

Scott “Sourdough” Power discusses…

• Halloween traditions, updates, and new artists to check out
• The red flags textile artist Jeanne F Jalandoni wants to warn other artists about
• Why Los Angeles-based Linda Vallejo laughed when we asked for her art world horror stories
• Street artist Amanda Lynn’s gross-out encounter with poop while painting walls in San Francisco
• The perils of exhibiting your work outdoors, as detailed by collage artist Alexandra Chiou
• Neon artist Dani Bonnet’s experience with being scammed, and the financial pitfalls that followed
• How you can learn from these scary moments and prevent them from happening to you

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/art-world-horror-stories-2022

Victor "Marka27" Quiñonez is a phenomenal street artist working at the intersection of graffiti, contemporary art, and design. Blending elements of pop culture with Mexican and Indigenous aesthetics—a style he calls “Neo-Indigenous”—Marka27 creates vinyl toys, large-scale murals, and private commissions for major brands. His award-winning creative agency, Street Theory, activates communities and global brands through experiential marketing, bringing the vibrancy of art and street culture into all aspects of life and work. 

On today’s podcast episode, host Scott “Sourdough” Power chats with Marka27 about the power of controlling his creative narrative. “Imagine if the media pushed narratives that were uplifting, that were inspiring, that showed our people thriving,” the artist muses. “It would make somebody in a bad situation see themselves [differently].”

Scott and Marka27 also discuss the importance of family and faith, the tenuous balance between personal creative expression and paid work, and the artist’s dedication to the mentorship and support of formerly incarcerated creatives. Marka27 emphasizes his commitment to creating work that preserves culture and highlights the value of collaboration, advocacy, and upliftment, all of which form an intrinsic part of his practice. We also discuss the sometimes unsettling experience of belonging to more than one culture and how Marka27 authentically bridges these two worlds with his incredible work. 

Ultimately, Marka27 refuses to let labels or titles define him. He believes artists have the power to control their own narratives, create with passion and purpose, and stay true to the causes they believe in. For more words of wisdom, as well as some actionable advice that you can implement in your own artistic practice, tune into our insightful conversation with Victor “Marka27” Quiñonez!

In Today’s Episode

Marka27 discusses… 

• How he took his practice from passion to full-time profession
• Important lessons learned from working with brands in corporate America
• How to maintain your artist’s DNA, even when working with big brands
• Why he believes process is everything; there’s no “right”’ way to create
• Building partnerships that focus on complementary strengths and a common vision
• How to positively impact struggling communities with uplifting narratives 
• The importance of celebrating the work of BIPOC artists and activists
• His involvement with Right of Return, an organization that supports formerly incarcerated artists with mentorship and funding
• The root cause of many of mankind’s problems: division

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/marka27

World-building is the practice of bringing imagined environments to life, and it’s become a major part of artmaking today. With rapid advancements in emerging technology, artists are now able to create fully immersive artworks that transport viewers to another place. 

Enter BLINK, the nation’s largest light, art, and projection mapping experience, which returns to downtown Cincinnati this October for the first time since 2019. At the intersection of new technology and innovative art, BLINK embodies the spirit of world-building and brings artists together to create their own unique environments within the Cincinnati cityscape. 

Today, host Scott “Sourdough” Power speaks to the event’s first executive director, Justin Brookhart, to learn more about the 2022 installment of BLINK and how a large-scale immersive art experience like this not only invigorates the City of Cincinnati but provides a major economic boost to the region. 

With a background in the film and film-adjacent festival and production industry, Justin is equipped to organize an art event on this scale. In today’s episode he offers us insight into the logistics behind BLINK and some of the incredible artists participating this year. Tune into our illuminating conversation with Justin to learn more about this incredible event. 

BLINK runs October 13 - 16 in Cincinnati, OH. For specific times, locations, and prices, please visit BLINK here. 

In Today's Episode

Justin and Scott discuss...

• Why generous support for the arts in any city is important
• The amazing artworks and installations visitors can anticipate at BLINK 2022
• A few of the incredible artists participating in the event this year
• What to expect from BLINK’s first-ever drone show
• How BLINK approaches the inclusion of more thought-provoking artwork within this context
• How emerging technology intersects with innovative art to create an experience like this
• The economic impact of an event like this, and the interest it’s received from other cities
• The global appeal of large-scale immersive art experiences
• A shout out to organizations like ArtsWave that support the arts community in Cincinnati
• Tools and resources available to visitors to help them navigate BLINK

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/justin-brookhart

As many of you know, your faithful host of the NOT REAL ART podcast, Scott “Sourdough,” Power, has just returned from the Nevada desert, where he and tens of thousands of others experienced all the weird, wild, and wonderful happenings that made Burning Man 2022. 

After an event of this scale and magnitude, it’s important to decompress. There are all sorts of decompression parties and events to help Burners relive the magic of the Burn as they readjust to the “default world.” On today’s episode, Scott speaks to a few of these intrepid explorers as they go through the decompression process. You’ll hear from Newbie, a fellow podcast pro and Burner from the HeeBeeGeeBee Healers camp, who recounts her experience at this year’s Burning Man.

Every Burner, regardless of their level of experience, encounters a whole host of peculiar emotions in the days and weeks it takes to reintegrate into the “real world.” You’re not alone! Join us as we relive the strange synchronicities, serendipitous interactions, and magical moments that make Burning Man what it is.

In Today’s Episode:

Newbie and Scott discuss…

• How many Burns Newbie has attended, and how her fifth compares to her first
• The HeeBeeGeeBees Healers camp, how Newbie found them, and their gifts to the Playa
• How the HeeBeeGeeBees camp shaped and influenced Newbie’s experience
• Why many first-time Burners are caught off-guard by the freedom Burning Man affords them
• How a specific art installation helped Newbie find closure after her father’s death
• Why many first-time Burners are caught off-guard by the freedom Burning Man affords them
• Why Newbie believes a lot of people struggled to “drop in” at this year’s Burn
• Why it can sometimes be difficult to shake off the default world at the Burn
• The strange story of how Scott “met himself” in a dust storm
• Finding the sacred in the mundane as we readjust to the default world

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/decompressing-burning-man-newbie

Every brushstroke, every note, every pixel—what if your artwork could live forever? In this episode, you’ll discover why archiving your work isn’t just about saving files—it’s about preserving your legacy. Join host Scott "Sourdough" Power as he highlights the critical role of preserving artistic legacies for future generations, especially as creators navigate life's complexities and the reality of mortality.

Scott shares a straightforward, step-by-step guide to help artists inventory their creations and choose the best storage methods. Listeners will explore various strategies for effective archiving, including how to compile a comprehensive inventory, organize physical storage, and develop a system that emphasizes the significance of each piece. Scott also underscores the necessity of estate planning and the value of designating a legacy keeper to honor an artist's wishes after they're gone.

This episode serves as a rallying cry for artists to take proactive steps in documenting their work, alleviating pressure on their loved ones while safeguarding the integrity of their creative contributions. Tune in and discover how to ensure your artistic legacy lives on. 

Links mentioned in this episode:

Arterial

ArtsvilleUSA

Artwork Archive

NOT REAL ART

For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/archiving-artwork

Today, after a week’s hiatus, our founder and podcast host Scott “Sourdough” Power is back from Black Rock with a special treat. 

That’s right, today’s episode is all about Burning Man: the landscape, the people, the stories, and of course, the art. Scott hops on the mic to talk about his annual trek into the desert and this year’s party on the Playa. You’ll hear about the incredible interactive installations that populated the landscape of northwestern Nevada for a week in late summer. 

You’ll also learn more about the artists and musicians who contributed their remarkable creativity and talent to Camp Corny, the unicorn-themed camp that Scott calls his home in Black Rock City. Burning Man, at its core, is a performance art piece on a grand scale, one that Scott believes is a must-see for any creative professional. We hope today’s episode leaves you feeling inspired to use the power of art for escape, fantasy, and imagination.

Join us for this week’s episode as Scott decompresses from the madness and the magic that was Burning Man 2022!

Key Points From This Episode:

• What it was like to be back in Black Rock City after a three-year hiatus.
• A brief look at the history of Burning Man and its founder, artist Larry Harvey.
• The awe-inspiring scale of the Burn and its focus on radical self-expression.
• Using the power of art to escape the insanity that is the ‘default world’.
• Insight into Sourdough’s experience as part of Camp Corny.
• The extreme weather and environmental conditions you can expect in Black Rock City.
• How the Burning Man enterprise has positively impacted local economies.
• Criticism of Burning Man’s impact on the environment and indigenous communities.
• More about Camp Corny and their gift to the Playa: a spirit animal adoption center.
• How Camp Corny prioritizes music and dancing.
• Some of the musicians, DJs, and artists who share their creativity with Camp Corny.
• Why Sourdough’s highlights from this year’s Burn include the many kids that attended.
• How artist attribution could be improved on the Playa.
• Some of Sourdough’s favorite installations, including Paradisium, BLACK! Asé, and more.
• An understanding of the interactive nature of the artwork at Burning Man.
• Some of the incredible art cars, like Robot Heart and Mayan Warrior.
• A few weird, wonderful, and sometimes shocking stories from Burning Man 2022!
• Experience burn night from Sourdough’s perspective.
• The evolution of technology at Burning Man, from LED lighting to drone photography.
• Recounting the 10-hour drive it took just to get off Gate Road!
• The process of decompressing from Burning Man.

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/burning-man-2022

Today, we look at one of the art-world’s most fundamental questions: why is art important?

It’s not such an easy question to answer, which is why we’re mixing things up this week with a very special episode. In today’s podcast episode, you’ll hear from artists, experts, and art lovers who sound off on why art matters to them. 

Podcast host Scott “Sourdough” Power shares his perspective on the importance of art in his life. We also hear from Dana Alberson, Kendra Schellenberg, Rebecca Youssef, Leslie Arlette Boyce, and Douglas Dale.

From bringing joy and facilitating expression to creating new perspectives and reflecting on contemporary life, there are so many reasons art plays an important role in all of our lives. Tune in to today’s episode to hear just a few. Then call the NOT REAL ART hotline at 833-668-7325 to share your perspective on the importance of art.

Key Points From This Episode:

• An update on what you can look forward to, including smARTtalks and the Not Real Art Grant
• A look at some of the answers we received to the fundamental question: why is art important?
• Why we want to hear from everybody, from experts and academics to artists and art lovers!
• Sourdough speaks candidly about why art is important to him.
• Hear from these artists: Dana Alberson, Kendra Schellenberg, Rebecca Youssef, Leslie Arlette Boyce, and Douglas Dale.
• Call the Not Real Art Hotline on 833-668-7325 and share why art is important to you!

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/why-art-is-important

Storytelling—whether visual, verbal, or written—is an essential part of the artist’s toolkit. Stories forge connections, evoke emotions, and help people understand different ideas and perspectives. 

In this week’s podcast episode, NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power introduces a new member to the crew: Editor-in-Chief Morgan Laurens. With a background in printmaking, pop culture, and classic literature, Morgan is an arts writer from the Midwest who specializes in grant writing and narrative-based storytelling for mission-driven artists and arts organizations. 

“Being able to help people tell their stories, with visuals and with words, has been really gratifying for me,” she tells Scott. “We get so many positive messages from the artists that we work with.” 

In today’s episode, Morgan shares her vision for NOT REAL ART’s editorial, how big-picture narratives set the publication apart, and why purposeful storytelling is so important in today’s digital landscape. You’ll also gain some insight into Morgan’s journey from art school graduate to writer/editor, and learn about her enduring fascination with the Midwest arts scene. 

Lastly, Morgan offers her opinion on overblown, baffling “artspeak,” explaining how it severs the emotional connection artists need to establish with their audience. “If you’re trying to improve your writing, you should forget everything that you learned in school!” she says, adding that academic writing alienates the reader and teaches artists to distance themselves from their work. 

Learn more about Morgan’s mission to banish artspeak for good, help artists tell stories that stick, and foster emotional connections that resonate with art lovers and artists alike.

In Today’s Episode

Morgan Laurens discusses…

• NOT REAL ART’s  mission to make art and artists more accessible through storytelling
• Her exciting and innovative vision for the blog over the next few years
• Why NOT REAL ART publishes human interest stories rather than formal art criticism 
• The importance of creating thoughtful stories in a world already drowning in content
• What she finds most gratifying about her work as editor in chief, and what she believes sets the editorial apart
• The prevalence of pompous artspeak in the art world, and what you can do about it
• Why you should forget everything you learned in school if you want to be a better writer
• Some tactics for cutting stuffy academia and art-world snobbery from your writing
• Why and how she became an writer, even after graduating with a fine arts degree
• A few of her favorite things about the Midwestern arts scene

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/morgan-laurens

Have you ever been asked to “work for exposure?” We’re betting the answer is a resounding (and irritated) “yes!”

If this sounds like you, we’ve got a real treat on deck today. NOT REAL ART founder and publisher Scott “Sourdough” Power hosts this timely podcast episode on “exposure bucks,” or unpaid creative labor, as it’s known to everyone who’s dipped their toes in the freebies pool. Many creatives are regularly asked to work for experience, exposure, or prestige, a practice that’s become endemic in today’s art market, adding to a culture of exploitation. Today, we take a look at an age-old dilemma for artists: is it ever worthwhile to create free work in exchange for “exposure”? When should you work for free? How should artists think about exchanging freebies?

This week’s episode is part of a new “audiotorial” series that furthers NOT REAL ART’s mission to celebrate, elevate, and empower artists by addressing contemporary art-world issues affecting today’s creative market. Today’s episode dives into the ups and downs of unpaid labor in the contemporary art market.

Ultimately, Scott argues freebies have a place—but they have to be on the artists’ terms. “Artists have to advocate for themselves,” he says. "It [requires] us to stand up for ourselves, say no, and realize that when we say ‘yes’ to free work, we devalue art and the role of artists in the world.” Tune in today for a fresh perspective on exposure bucks, free labor, and freebies. 

In Today’s Episode: 

Scott “Sourdough” Power discusses…

• How brands and organizations exploit artists by asking them to work for “exposure”
• Why you shouldn’t always say “no” to these offers
• Approaching freebies on your own terms, in ways that benefit your career
• Redirecting clients to your portfolio rather than offering free work
• Looking at freebies like free samples—stickers are a great example
• How to turn a charity request into a paid sale
• Why saying “yes” to unpaid work should be the exception, not the rule

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/freebies

Networking. For many in the creative industry, it’s a dirty word. Most of us dread the prospect of hovering around a fountain of thawed shrimp cocktail, waiting for the right moment to ambush a key contact. The wine will give you a headache, and the people you need to meet simply aren’t there. 

Yet networking is a fairly essential skill for creatives in today’s market, one we think deserves a second look. Since 2019, Crewest Studio’s mission has been to empower the creative community through education, appreciation, and funding. With the help of our readers, we’ve expanded our platform into a supportive network of arts programming, including a robust online publication, an entire network of podcasts, and our annual NOT REAL ART artist grant. 

Today we introduce something entirely new to Crewest Studio, marking an evolution in our efforts to support the creative workforce. SmARTalks, an educational event series produced by Crewest Studio, aims to empower and inspire creative professionals in all stages of their careers. Presented in conjunction with Helms Design Center in LA’s historic Helms Bakery District, the in-person events provide a warm environment for artists to practice rubbing elbows after months of lockdown. 

“It’s going to be an intimate affair where you’re going to be inspired and learn a lot,” NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power says on today’s podcast. “You’re going to be able to meet these experts, meet other artists, meet other people. You’re going to learn, share, and grow. This is what [NOT REAL ART is] about!” 

Tune in to today’s podcast for more details on how to attend these can’t-miss events, which run September through December, 2022. 

In Today’s Episode:

Scott “Sourdough” Power discusses…

• His motivation for creating the smARTtalks series
• Crewest Studio’s new friendship with the Helms Bakery District in Culver City, California, where each event takes place
• The program for each smARTtalk, which runs the gamut from toy-making to art in the age of political unrest 
• How you can snatch a limited ticket to attend Crewest Studio’s smARTalks 2022!

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/smARTtalks-2022

When Heidi Luerra decided to enter the world of fashion, she quickly found the cards were stacked against her. Disappointed by the lack of support in the creative community, Heidi planned and produced her first fashion, music, and visual arts show with help from her most talented friends.

Nearly 20 years into her career, Heidi is still a force to be reckoned with. During recession-era down time, she built and bootstrapped RAW: natural born artists, a platform that provides independent artists with tools, resources, education, and exposure. Since being founded in 2009, RAW has become one of the world's largest independent arts organizations. Now a multi-million dollar global enterprise, RAW illustrates Heidi’s mission to elevate the underdog and create a space for art of all kinds to shine. 

In today’s episode, Heidi joins NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power to offer some insight into the multidisciplinary approach RAW embraces, and how she was forced to adjust her business model during COVID. 

Heidi also discusses her latest project, PLATFORM by RAW Artists, a licensing program that empowers creative entrepreneurs to own and operate event showcases. Whether through RAW, PLATFORM, or her boutique consultancy, Hatch, Heidi is always focused on creating opportunities for creative entrepreneurs and supporting them as they grow their businesses. She also has some practical, no-nonsense advice to share with entrepreneurial artists, so reach for a pen and paper, pull up a comfy chair, and tune into our chat with Heidi Luerra.

In Today’s Episode

Heidi Luerra shares… 

• Why she redefines art as anything that evokes emotion
• How building creative businesses allows her to fuel and nurture the artist inside
• How RAW decentralizes event showcases with their PLATFORM licensing program
• Details about her boutique consultancy for creative entrepreneurs, Hatch Planning & Strategy
• A peek into her personal life as a new mother 
• Her take on creativity, and why it means heading down the road untraveled
• Why she believes we’re all born with an immense amount of creativity

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/heidi-luerra

Galleries play a fundamental role in the art world, encouraging the success of an artist or the growth of a high-quality art collection. 

However, today’s guest believes there’s often too much emphasis on what gallerists do for artists, and not the other way around. In this week’s episode, legendary gallerist Merry Karnowsky of LA’s KP Projects joins us to talk about her highly influential career in street art and the lowbrow art movement. Merry’s work over the years has helped legitimize the careers of world-renowned artists like Shepard Fairey, Camille Rose Garcia, Todd Schorr, and Jeff Soto, to name just a few.

This year Merry celebrates her 25th anniversary at KP Projects, having opened the gallery in 1997. Today’s episode is all about celebrating Merry’s contributions to the art world as we learn more about her journey as a gallerist, a curator, and perhaps most importantly, an art lover. Merry shares her motivations for starting a gallery, and how she seeks to represent the work she loves with the reverence it deserves. We also discuss the importance of creating diverse business models in the art world, how the gallery system has evolved since the ‘90s, and what you can expect from KP Projects’ upcoming 25th anniversary exhibition. 

Ultimately, Merry believes the artists she represents inspired her to create an impactful legacy in the arts—one we hope persists for another groundbreaking 25 years. 

In Today’s Podcast Episode

Merry Karnowsky discusses…

• How she founded KP Projects, and what her motivations were at the time
• How she facilitated greater recognition for now-famous artists like Shepard Fairey
• Her relationship with pop surrealist Todd Schorr, who was one of her first exhibited artists
• Why she believes lowbrow art is sometimes overshadowed by the “scene” around it
• The unconventional trajectory of many lowbrow artists, and the hierarchies that often exclude them from blue chip representation
• Why she believes KP Projects wouldn’t have worked anywhere but LA
• How her artists have inspired her to create an impactful legacy for the arts community
• What she hopes the artists she’s worked with over the years will say about her
• What you can expect from KP Projects’ upcoming 25th anniversary exhibition

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/merry-karnowsky

Ever wanted to start an art collection of your own, but didn’t know where to start? Turns out it’s not as scary as you’d think.

Today, we introduce a very special “audiotorial” series from NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power. This week’s episode, on the ins and outs of art collecting, is the first in a series that aims to celebrate, elevate, and empower artists and art lovers by addressing topical issues and events in the art world. 

Blue chip art galleries often make art-buying seem exclusive and mysterious—but it doesn’t need to be that way. In this episode, Scott shares his personal reasons for buying art, and how you can follow suit. Learn why starting your own collection isn’t as intimidating as it seems and how buying original art can tip the scales in favor of the artists—not the billion-dollar home decor industry or the galleries that seek to keep the art market opaque.

Whether you’re a newbie to art buying or want to expand a small collection, this is one episode you don't want to miss. Join us for the first in a series of episodes that tackle contemporary art-world issues. 

In Today’s Episode 

Scott “Sourdough” discusses…

• Why lots of people feel intimidated when it comes to buying art
• Understanding that most original contemporary artworks out there are affordable
• Why it’s important for artists to nurture the mass market and grow demand for original, affordable art
• How existing business models in the art world fail to serve the majority of artists
• The importance of buying art that you love; it shouldn’t just serve as an investment
• Why he loves buying art, starting with how it makes him feel
• The value of owning something unique that supports small business owners
• The conversation-starting qualities of original art that mass-produced decor lacks

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/why-i-love-buying-art

Camille Rose Garcia was born into a creative family. 

The daughter of an activist filmmaker and a muralist, Camille began her artistic journey as a young apprentice to her mother, painting walls throughout the suburbs of Orange County. During this formative time Camille also visited Disneyland and attended punk shows with other disenchanted youth. Drawing from an eclectic range of influences, including authors Philip K. Dick and William S. Burroughs, vintage cartoons, outsider art, and politically aware bands like The Clash and the Dead Kennedys, Camille makes engaging, vividly colored work that blends nostalgic pop culture references with a satirical slant on modern society. Her psychedelic, eye-popping paintings, detailed drawings, toys, and books strive for both visual pleasure and incisive social criticism. 

In today’s episode, Camille sits down with NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power to share insight into the creative legacy she inherited from her parents. Believing she was destined to create and manifest her own reality, Camille reflects on the ways this thinking shows up in her work and life. She also discusses reconciling the opposing forces of capitalism and creativity as she works to build a practice that is accessible, thought-provoking, and impactful. Finally, we explore Camille’s deep compassion for the natural world and her fascination with the planets that exist beyond our own. 

Make sure to tune in for this poignant discussion about art, the universe, and everything in between with beloved pop surrealist Camille Rose Garcia.

In Today’s Podcast Episode

Camille Rose Garcia discusses…

• How she honors her parents’ creative legacy
• The essence of her brand and the message she imparts through her work
• Why she takes the act of creating so seriously 
• The challenges of keeping pace with innovations in the art world
• How she makes her artwork more accessible to the public through her online store
• The fundamental importance of showing compassion towards animals, land, and people
• The very specific “sonic requirements” she considers part of her art-making process
• Illustrating and writing The Cabinet of Dr. Deekay, a dystopian fairy tale published by Sympathetic Press
• Her most “far out” theories about life on planet Earth, and beyond

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/camille-rose-garcia

Everyone is talking about NFTs—but what do they really mean for artists and art collectors? 

Today, you’ll hear from Ronnie Pirovino, a widely recognized collector, curator, and appraiser who hails from Denver, Colorado. After his art collection grew to prominence, Ronnie left his successful career in digital advertising to focus on his passion for art. Today, his pursuits encompass a variety of entrepreneurial projects, including NFTs, which he believes are positioned to restructure the creative economy. 

He has partnered with Christie’s on Trespassing, an ongoing series of auction sales that trace graffiti’s influence on contemporary art, and he acts as chief curator at LGND.art, an innovative platform built by artists, for artists, at the intersection of art and technology. He is also well-known as the world’s largest collector of KAWS artworks. 

As you’ll discover in today’s episode, Ronnie helps artists and organizations understand and navigate the emerging world of NFTs and Web3. He’s a passionate advocate for making the NFT space accessible to everyone, not just the crypto natives. Tune in as NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power and Ronnie dive into ownership, security, and the growing responsibility that artists have to actively engage with their audiences. You’ll also learn how to meet the challenges of the new creative economy with vigor, embracing the many possibilities it presents.

Key Points From This Episode:

• Why Ronnie believes the NFT space is for everyone, not just the crypto natives
• How intimidating terminology and a cult aesthetic can act as gatekeeping devices
• Defining Web3: how it’s different from Web2, and what possibilities it opens up for creatives 
• How NFTs have brought young people to the previously elitist practice of art collecting
• Why the most successful NFT artists didn’t rush in, but used the medium to its fullest potential
• Why Ronnie suggests participating in the NFT community via channels like Discord
• Ronnie’s advice for artists entering the world of NFTs: be patient and view it as an extension of your existing practice
• Why Ronnie encourages galleries to revise their business models as artists gain more control over their own careers in the NFT space

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/ronnie-pirovino

This week, the NOT REAL ART podcast features Casey Fletcher, a grant recipient whose exploration of identity, faith, and artistic expression is both personal and provocative. As a biracial artist raised in a family committed to the Salvation Army, Fletcher's work reflects his own experiences while challenging societal norms and sparking meaningful conversations about culture, spirituality, and belonging. 

In this episode, he shares details about his recent project involving the Chamberlain Rock—a boulder removed from the University of Wisconsin campus because of its association with racist terminology. This initiative showcases Casey's dedication to confronting historical injustices and initiating dialogue about race and identity. For him, art transcends mere self-expression; it is a powerful means of cultivating community discourse that fosters understanding and healing. 

Throughout the episode, Casey articulates a vision of art that is deeply connected to his faith and personal convictions. He views his artistic practice as a journey toward truth, encouraging others to embark on their own paths of discovery. Ultimately, this episode highlights the transformative nature of art, demonstrating how creativity can serve as a catalyst for change and a bridge for empathy in an increasingly divided society.

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For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/casey-fletcher

Confused by NFTs? Meet the software developers who are making generative artwork a piece of cake. 

Today, we’re joined by two cutting-edge innovators: Ashton Owens and Andrew Medearis of Good Month Labs, a software development company that calls itself “the TurboTax of NFT deployment.” In this episode, Ashton and Andrew sit down with NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power to discuss their recent passion projects in the spheres of cryptocurrency and counterculture. 

You’ll learn how the two founded Good Month Labs and subsequently launched BAZ, a golf-inspired collection of NFT artworks numbering over seven thousand. Featuring the “violently pastel” works of Kyokill, the collection is available on OpenSea, and will likely appeal to patrons who adore its unique combination of golf, dinosaurs, and Web3 art. Discover the collection here.

Ashton and Andrew also dive into their recently launched Cake app, which will create a one-stop solution for artists in Web3 spaces—regardless of whether you’re an old pro or a total NFT neophyte. The two discuss how NFTs are shifting power back to artists, what Cake will do to facilitate this process, and how artists and NFTs can evolve together. 

We also touch on the definition of “programmable assets,” why NFTs can actually offer IRL experiences, and how blockchain technology can be kinder to our planet. Don’t miss our insightful conversation with Ashton and Andrew of Good Month Labs. 

Key Points From This Episode:

• Andrew explains how a passion for counterculture led him to NFTs
• Ashton shares his chance encounter with NFTs while working in sports marketing
• Ashton and Andrew relay their vision of accessible art at the intersection of golf and NFTs
• Ashton sheds some light on the BAZ TOUR Collection by Kyokill on OpenSea
• The two discuss Good Month’s Cake app, and how makes NFTs easier for artists
• Andrew acknowledges market value for art and NFTs can be borne out of confusion
• Ashton explains how NFTs can lead to real-world experiences and strengthen relationships
• The two software developers respond to environmental criticism of NFTs
• Lastly, the two talk about the hottest new industry event: NFT.NYC

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/good-month-labs

The democratization of art does not mean dumbing it down. It means increasing access for artists and audiences alike, an objective that today’s podcast guest, Melissa Richardson Banks, is super passionate about.

Melissa is an arts marketing specialist, podcast host, photographer, and the founder of CauseConnect, an art consulting firm that recently celebrated its 20th anniversary of “doing business by doing good.” She specializes in creating strategic marketing partnerships and is known for designing innovative, cost-effective solutions that produce results, from raising funds to raising awareness. Known as Downtown Muse for her photography of the Los Angeles and Houston art districts, Melissa is also an independent cultural producer. She plans, creates, funds, and executes events and projects, from museum exhibits, community festivals, and virtual and in-person speaker series to classical music concerts, influencer dinners, and salons. To date, Melissa has produced, marketed, managed, or funded over 100 museum exhibitions and managed several national tours of traveling exhibitions and art shows. 

In today’s episode, Melissa shares her observations on the legitimacy of so-called “real art” and offers some insight into her creative journey, from middle school artist to arts marketing specialist. We also touch on the dissolving divide between fine and commercial art, why what you call yourself as an artist matters, and the story behind her creative partnership with longtime comedian and art collector Cheech Marin. Tune in to the episode to find out how Melissa elevates and supports artists—then learn how you can do the same.

Key Points From This Episode:

• The importance of arts education and making art more accessible
• Why Melissa believes that art is all around us; all we have to do is seek it out
• Hear the story of the first time she acknowledged herself as an artist
• Reflecting on the dissolving divide between fine and commercial art
• Why what you call yourself matters, and the growing number of titles artists can choose from
• The fascinating story of how she came to manage Cheech Marin’s art collection
• How the two launched the Cheech Marin Center for Chicano Art and Culture, now open in Riverside, CA
• Why Melissa believes her role is to promote and support artists over herself
• Debunking some of the biggest misconceptions about Chicano art
• The intangible services Melissa has provided for artists over the years, and the tangible projects that are most significant to her
• The multitude of ways that you can support artists, from buying art to sharing their work
• A glimpse into the joy that Melissa’s art collection brings her on a daily basis

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/melissa-richardson-banks

Welcome to a special Father’s Day edition of the NOT REAL ART Podcast! Today, you’ll hear from Sol Guy, an incredible film producer and writer who believes we change and shape our world through the stories we tell.

His passion for art and social change has led him on a unique creative journey. From his early days as a founding member of groundbreaking Canadian hip-hop group the Rascalz to creating and presenting TV shows, producing and directing films, writing books, and managing other artists, Sol has always been very intentional about implementing business practices that are both innovative and socially-minded.

His most recent film, The Death of My Two Fathers, is a courageous exploration of identity, fatherhood, life, and death. In this episode, Sol shares how the film unpacks the meaning of family, explores race, and why we must all face where we come from for the sake of those who come after us. By offering the film as a resource, Sol’s hope is to inspire people to live intentionally, face difficult challenges head on, and be inspired to use creativity, conversation, and storytelling as a means for healing and honoring our loved ones. Tune in today for a powerful (and emotional) conversation about grief, reconciliation, and fatherhood.

Key Points From This Episode:

• A candid and emotional reflection on the unpredictable voyage of grief
• The importance of recognizing your mortality in order to get the most out of life
• Why Sol believes we can heal ourselves and one another through creative practice
• Recognizing that we can inherit beauty, truth, and gifts in the same way we inherit intergenerational trauma
• How Sol found the courage to explore difficult topics like fatherhood, reconciliation, and loss
• Why he believes it’s important to raise sensitive sons and encourage vulnerability in boys
• Hear about Sol’s experience of visiting his father’s first family in Kansas City
• How his sister, Travistine, helped Sol rediscover his roots, reexamine what it means to be Black in America, and reconnect with the people his father left behind
• How Sol came to understand the parallels in his own life as a better understanding of his father’s choices emerged
• Understanding the value of showing up as a witness, not a savior
• Sol shares what he believes is his love language: making art with someone.
• A look behind the scenes as Sol shares the process of filming The Death of My Two Fathers
• How his team helped him find the universal narrative in his personal story
• What Sol learned about collaboration and the true nature of abundance during the process
• The energetic resonance of the process that remains in the final creative product
• How Sol hopes to offer this film as a resource and where you can watch it

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/sol-guy

How many people would be willing to risk it all to pursue their dreams? Today’s guest, Danish artist Mikael B., packed his bags and flew to LA after selling the graphic design company he started with his twin brother. 

In 2014, while Mikael was working as a graphic designer, he created a colorful map to hang in his Copenhagen apartment. That work, “Vibrant World,” went viral after being posted online, spurring global demand for Mikael’s prints and providing a launchpad for the artist’s budding career. Encouraged by the response, Mikael and his brother sold their graphic design business and moved to LA to focus on art-making—and the rest, as they say, is history.

Blending Cubism with Wildstyle graffiti, Mikael began splashing his designs all over LA soon after arriving. Today he works with brands like American Express and Bentley Motors to create eye-catching projects and public murals that brighten the city. He credits his success to his brother’s business savvy, describing their partnership as “yin and yang.” 

In today’s podcast episode, NOT REAL ART founder and publisher Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Mikael B. to discuss how the young artist took control of his creative career. You’ll get a glimpse into Mikael’s creative journey, from Denmark to The City of Angels, and hear about his ongoing commitment to creating work he loves—not just art that sells. We also touch on the role social media plays in Mikael’s success, how to embrace the unknown with enthusiasm, and what you can learn from the crossover between fine and commercial art. 

Ultimately, Mikael believes taking an extraordinary leap of faith enabled his creative success. The artist shares a powerful and inspiring story about sacrifice, commitment, and vision—tune in today for insight from the intrepid artist.

Key Points From This Episode:

• Mikael’s introduction to art-making via graphic design
• How he felt called to express himself authentically rather than building corporate brands
• Why he describes his partnership with his twin brother as “yin and yang”
• The story of how "Vibrant World" went viral and kickstarted Mikael’s journey as an artist
• The role that social media played in enabling Mikael to take control of his own career
• Some of the sacrifices he had to make in order to get his business off the ground in LA
• What you can learn from the crossover between the commercial and fine art worlds.
• How Mikael has been inspired by graffiti and how it has influenced his signature style
• The value of embracing the unknown and getting out of your comfort zone
• Strategies from his agency days that Mikael applies to building his personal brand
• The importance of staying true to yourself: why Mikael paints what he loves, not what sells
• The dedication and commitment it takes for ordinary people to do extraordinary things
• How taking this leap of faith enabled Mikael to become a better version of himself
• Insight into his daily routines and rituals, from regular exercise to meditation and practicing gratitude, and how they contribute to his success
• How you can benefit from prioritizing self-care as a creative practitioner
• What's next for Mikael B, including his upcoming solo exhibition!

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/mikael-b

How do you turn your passion into a successful business? When Los Angeles-based artist and entrepreneur Ilse Valfré was just 22-years-old, she started a Tumblr blog that would propel her from preschool teacher to internationally sought-after artist.

Today, fans of her brand, Valfré, include Jessica Alba and Emma Roberts, as well as millions of girls and young women around the world. In this episode of our podcast, NOT REAL ART founder and publisher Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Ilse and her husband, Donald Eley, to discuss how they built a family business while raising two bchildren. You’ll gain insight into the challenges and rewards associated with building a successful brand in today’s tech-savvy world and learn about Ilse’s passion for drawing. We also touch on the importance of starting a creative business while you’re young, establishing a strong community to rally around you, and what it takes to forge your own path.

Prompting young artists to view hardships as gasoline for their creative fire, Ilse believes the challenges she’s endured shaped her success for the better. Her quirky, irreverent characters reflect this philosophy, smirking in the face of adversity even as tears fall from their eyes. A modern-day internet success story, Ilse urges creative entrepreneurs to follow their passions, jump in with both feet, and make mistakes—you never know what might happen! We also dive into the Web 3.0 and NFT world, where Ilse and Donald have created Valfrélandia, a collection of 600 unique, hand-drawn NFT artworks

Though Ilse credits her success to the incredible community she’s managed to build online, it’s the artist’s sunny disposition and relentless optimism that propels her work into the wider world. In today’s episode, Donald and Ilse share their magic formula for modern success as they reflect on what it’s like to have over a million followers in their community: “It keeps us inspired.”

Key Points From This Episode:

• Insight into Ilse’s upbringing and the Tumblr blog that launched her global brand
• Why Ilse encourages creative entrepreneurs to start young (and make mistakes!)
• Donald explains how the Valfré brand “rides the line” between fashion, art, and design
• The authenticity in her work that Ilse believes people are drawn to
• How the internet provided a space for Ilse to build her own world and forge her own path
• Viewing the internet as a window or a stage to introduce viewers to your work
• Discover how Donald and Ilse met and how their skillsets compliment one another
• How growing up surrounded by street food and urban art in Tijuana influenced Ilse’s practice
• A glimpse into Donald’s journey and how he became the businessperson that he is today
• Why Ilse says she has learned to trust the journey, even when it is challenging
• Understanding how Ilse’s characters reflect this philosophy, smirking in the face of hardship
• What it’s like for Ilse to have a million followers and how it inspires her to keep going
• The uplifting and positive messages her artwork spreads amongst the Valfré community
• Diving into the Web 3.0 and NFT world, where Ilse and Donald have created Valfrélandia
• How emerging technology can connect creators with their fans in a whole new way
• The benefits of having a family business and how Ilse and Donald advocate for each other

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/valfré

No matter how many accolades you receive, they will fade, and the plaques in your honor will eventually be removed and replaced with new ones. Of course, receiving recognition for the creative work you do is an important part of staying motivated as an artist, but today’s guest believes that it should be the work itself that inspires you, not the awards you collect for it. That being said, today, we are honored to welcome our first-ever Emmy Award-winning artist, Senior Vice President of Development and Production for Red Rock Films, Shannon Malone-deBenedictis! A former video installation artist, Shannon is a creative storyteller and a leading figure in film development and production spanning several genres. Notable projects include Secrets of the Whales, winner of the 2021 Emmy for Best Documentary or Nonfiction Series, as well as Penguin Town and Shark Week. In today’s episode, Shannon emphasizes the value of patience, determination, and collaboration, highlighting the critical roles that great storytelling and constant curiosity have played in her decades-long career as a documentary filmmaker. We also touch on why the ability to work well with others is more important than raw talent and discuss some of the challenges that come with pitching films to investors, before Shannon offers her practical advice for filmmakers, plus so much more! Make sure not to miss this down-to-earth and insightful conversation with the one and only, Shannon Malone-deBenedictis!

Key Points From This Episode:

• Insight into Shannon’s career trajectory; from an art degree to office work and back to film!
• Hear what it was like for Shannon and her team to win an Emmy for Secrets of the Whales.
• The epic undertaking of filming the series and the collaborations that made it possible.
• Studying the social, cultural traditions of whales, previously considered exclusive to humans.
• Shannon’s belief that studying the culture of whales will play a key role in our ongoing efforts to protect them.
• How advanced technology like drones enable us to capture footage in an ethical way.
• Some of the controversy that often accompanies documentary filmmaking.
• How Sigourney Weaver brought classic storytelling and emotion to Secrets of the Whales. 
• Find out how Shannon believes COVID contributed to this project winning the Emmy. 
• Two compliments that meant the most to Shannon, one of which was from a four-year-old.
• The surreal moment when Secrets of the Whales won the Emmy for Best Documentary or Nonfiction Series.
• Why Shannon prioritizes the work she does over any accolades she has received for it.
• Why simply having talent doesn’t mean you’ll get work; you can’t work in a vacuum.
• The importance of learning how to collaborate and work with others as an artist.
• Shannon and Sourdough share their mutual appreciation for the Jackass movies.
• The amazing travel opportunities that being a documentary filmmaker has afforded Shannon.
• Highlighting the roles that great storytelling and curiosity play in documentary filmmaking.
• Challenges that come with pitching documentary films, and Shannon’s advice for filmmakers.

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/shannon-malone-deBenedictis

The shifts and changes that have always characterized the creative industries have accelerated in the last few years with the rise of the blockchain and the introduction of NFTs into the popular lexicon. There are now more new avenues than ever for artists to explore and find themselves a niche in, and this is both exciting and daunting for many young creators. Here to talk about his journey through the creative life and his explorations into new possibilities is the amazing kaNO! Born and raised in New York and now based in Los Angeles for many years, kaNO is an artist, toymaker, animator, and generally a man of many talents! kaNO is also a family man, a thoughtful human, and someone we are so lucky to host on the podcast and share this space with. In today's episode, we speak about many different areas of kaNO's life, from how he approaches productivity and time management to his thoughts on education and community. The bulk of the second half of our chat is spent on the crypto space and how kaNO is thinking about his place in this burgeoning area of the art landscape, so to catch it all from a truly fantastic guest, hit that play button!

Key Points From This Episode:

• kaNO's attitude to juggling different projects and demands on his time. 
• The impact of education in kaNO's journey and the time he spent at art school. 
• Democratization of the art business; his philosophy and what enabled him to keep growing. 
• Why a network of peers and mentors are so important to any aspiring artist.
• Current projects that kaNO is busy with; his forthcoming exhibition, new toys, and forays into NFTs and the blockchain! 
• kaNO's perspective on NFTs currently and how they could change the game. 
• How the NFT world connects to the Metaverse and a new creative culture. 
• kaNO explains where he is at in his own process of learning about NFTs and where he wants to pour his energy.
• The shift away from physical and tangible products with the younger generation. 
• Staying relevant with the ways we acquire and share knowledge. 
• The attraction that young people have towards the open and free nature of NFT education.

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/kano

Today on the Not Real Art Podcast, we have the pleasure of introducing you to world-renowned artist, Andre Miripolsky. As colorful as the art he creates, Andre’s signature style of pop imagery is bright, whimsical, and energetic, and he has collaborated with the likes of Bette Midler, Quincy Jones, Robin Williams, The Rolling Stones, and MTV, among others. His work exploded onto the scene in the 1980s with the design of Elton John's famous ‘piano jacket’, and he is best known for his Fear No Art series, the Miripolsky Art Barbie, and his ‘Absolut Vodka illustrations from the ‘90s. In this episode, Andre shares some insight into his career, his upbringing around the world, and what led him to ultimately settle in Los Angeles. Tuning in, you’ll learn more about his iconic Viva LA! Program, which celebrates the power of collaboration and the incredible, dynamic people that make LA one of the most creative cities in the world, and we dive into how Andre is embracing cutting edge technology as he ventures into the world of NFTs with his distinctive shark characters. Andre believes he was born to be an artist, which is clearly evident as we dive into his story. So, for a fascinating discussion with one of the most brilliant creative minds of our time, make sure to tune in today!

Key Points From This Episode:

• What constitutes ‘real art’ and some of the unintended consequences of technology.
• An interesting story about why Andre isn’t a French citizen, despite being born in Paris.
• Why Andre says he received an art education “by osmosis" by the time he was two.
• How he found himself through art at a young age and sold his first painting at 10-years-old.
• The importance of branding as an artist, which Andre first discovered as a high school senior.
• The role of marketing and promotion in the NFT world and the challenges virtual art presents.
• Insight into some of the important partnerships that Andre has made in the NFT space.
• Why Andre says that he always felt like an old soul, even when he was a child.
• How he has embraced cutting edge technologies and processes throughout his career.
• Why he believes the epitaph on his tombstone should read, "In spite of myself.”
• The accident that led Andre to create one of his best-known bodies of work, Fear No Art.
• How he made rock and roll history by designing Elton John’s famous ‘piano jacket’.
• Why Andre attributes his success as an artist to his ability to adapt his energy to the different ecosystems and platforms of the art world.
• Understanding his involvement in the Viva LA Music Festival via his iconic Viva LA! Platform.
• Why he believes that the phrase, “Viva LA,” is behind the success of the brand.
• Information about Andre’s SharkTales Art Club NFTs, his partnership with the Beneath the Waves Foundation, and where you can find them.
• Where you can follow Andre on Twitter and Instagram.

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/andre-miripolsky

As much as we tend to separate ourselves from other species, human beings are animals too. Our natural ecosystems support all of us, not just the whales or the polar bears we want to save, and the only way we can sustain our lives and our health on this planet is if the planet is alive and healthy. Today’s episode centers around an incredible organization that is doing important work at the intersection of culture and environmentalism to further the conservation of our oceans. Led by Founder and Executive Director, Tré Packard, The PangeaSeed Foundation is an international nonprofit organization that seeks to raise awareness and create positive change using what they call ‘ARTivism’. Tré is a renowned public art curator and award-winning environmental photographer who marries art and activism to cultivate a new era in marine conservation and, in today’s episode, he shares some of the groundbreaking work that PangeaSeed has done with artists like Shepard Fairey and Nychos to raise awareness about the fragility of our oceans. We also gain some insight into what compelled Tré to look at conservation through a different lens and you’ll learn about their recently released book, Sea Change: A Decade of ARTivism for Oceans, which features a carefully curated selection of the purpose-driven artworks that PangeaSeed has collaborated on over the past 10 years. To find out how PangeaSeed is giving the oceans a voice through their unique blend of art and activism, make sure not to miss this insightful conversation with Tré Packard!

Key Points From This Episode:

• What compelled Tré to look at conservation through a different lens: art.
• Insight into Tré’s lifelong connection with, and passion for, the oceans.
• The value of art as a communication tool to drive change.
• How the Sea Walls public art program empowers and educates communities about the importance of protecting our oceans.
• How they collaborate with global partners and stakeholders to create a legacy of ARTivism.
• The special selection of artwork featured in Sea Change: A Decade of ARTivism for Oceans.
• Ocean pollution, microplastics, and the power that consumers have to drive change.
• Tré reflects on how religion and politics can influence our relationship with the environment.
• Tré’s hope for the next generation and how he believes young people can mobilize for good.
• Sea Walls in Churchill, Manitoba, which is known as the “polar bear capital of the world.”
• A sneak peek into some of the murals and creative productions coming your way this summer.
• Breaking down the seven chapters of Sea Change and what you can expect from the book.
• How you can support PangeaSeed by purchasing limited edition artworks from their shop.
• How PangeaSeed supports artists through their Printed Oceans and Sea Walls programs.
• Where you can find and stay up to date with PangeaSeed and Sea Walls on social media.
• Some of the ways that Tré takes care of himself so he can continue fighting for the cause.
• Sourdough tells the story of how he ended up living in Churchill, Manitoba, for a year.

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/pangeaseed-foundation

If Teddy Margas could give the world one message, it would be to embrace the power of creativity. He is a shining example of creative talent and dedication, and we are very lucky to have an amazing conversation to share with all of our listeners today! Actor, writer, comedian, performer; however you want to describe him, Teddy has his fingers in many pies and continues to grow and branch out, embracing new challenges and forms in order to stay inspired. In our chat, we talk about Teddy's upbringing and family, the moments in his childhood that left a mark on him, bringing the power of personal trauma into performance, and why connecting with an audience can be so powerful. We also touch on some of Teddy's amazing character work, which you find on his social media channels, and the lessons he learned about how to approach auditions. For Teddy, being creative doesn't have to mean dropping everything to make it in Hollywood, he just believes that allowing space for the magic of play and creativity can bring so much joy and fulfillment into our lives, a message we at the Not Real Art Podcast fully endorse! 

Key Points From This Episode:

• Teddy's early years, birth in North Carolina, and formative years in Philadelphia.  
• Reflections on the benefits of growing up in a cultural melting pot. 
• Moving to LA and leaving the small pond for a big city.
• Teddy's belief in nurturing the artistic impulses of young children. 
• The bravery it takes to get up on stage and why Teddy thinks everyone should try it!
• Thoughts on the connection between comedy and trauma.  
• How Teddy properly found his voice and truly connected with an audience. 
• Teddy's approach to describing his work and skillset in different situations.
• The work that goes into the development of Teddy's characters and his fascination with 'Karen'. 
• A look back at the important periods of learning in Teddy's journey.
• Teddy explains some surprising elements of successful auditioning techniques. 
• How Teddy uses silences and pauses in his routine. 
• The surprising roles and places that Teddy has found himself in through his love of creating!
• Teddy's perspective on the hurdles he faces at this point in his career, and his attraction to challenges. 
• Exciting information on upcoming projects and how to connect with Teddy online!

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/teddy-margas

In this episode, you’ll learn about an incredibly relevant topic: the connection between art, creativity, and climate change.

Today, host Scott “Sourdough” Power highlights the staggering impact of recent climate disasters on creative communities in Los Angeles and Asheville, North Carolina. When Hurricane Helene swept through Western North Carolina last September, it displaced hundreds of artists and flattened key creative spaces across 25 counties. As Scott explores the history of climate disaster, he also tackles the common but false belief that some places, like the Appalachian Mountains, are safe from its impacts. It’s a stark reminder that climate change doesn’t play favorites—it affects everyone, regardless of background.

Our conversation also touches on the Palisades and Eaton fires, two of the deadliest and most destructive wildfires in California history. An Angeleno himself, Scott witnessed firsthand how a trifecta of fire-friendly climate conditions turned entire neighborhoods into heaps of ash and soot this past January. 

While he stresses the importance of moving from passive observation to active engagement, Scott also celebrates the resilience of these communities in overcoming challenges through creativity. Ultimately, this episode emphasizes that creativity isn’t just about reflecting what’s happening around us; it’s also a powerful way to imagine and work towards a more sustainable future.

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Remote: A Video Series Exploring Public Art

Scott “Sourdough” Power

For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/creativity-and-climate-change

In these tough times we have all been living through, hope can seem a little elusive. Many of us want to work for change and make a positive impact, but it is not always clear where we should put our energy and money. Two young women from LA are providing us with a great example of what is possible, and we are joined by Zoey Hudis and Lucy Lipofsky of Art for Peace today, as well as their proud mothers! Art for Peace is an initiative and event founded in order to support the crisis in Ukraine right now, and Zoey and Lucy have managed to connect with an amazing roster of artists, who have donated work that will be sold for the cause. This inspiring project can show us all how we can work within our scope, in ways that suit our skills and interests, for a better world. The Art for Peace event was held on the weekend of April 15 through the 18th, and we cannot wait to see what these young art activists do next!

Key Points From This Episode:

• An introduction to the mission at Art for Peace!
• The process of creating the website and finding a gallery space.
• How Zoey and Lucy managed to involve such an impressive roster of artists!  
• The role that everyone can play by coming together and sharing skills and effort. 
• Why Zoey and Lucy's dedication and involvement have propelled the initiative. 
• A little about the two organizations that Art for Peace has partnered with.
• Details about the gallery space, and where to find out more about the event and project.
• The inspiration behind the logo and the symbolism of the dove that Lucy used.  
• Feelings of pride that Zoey and Lucy's moms are experiencing right now.

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/art-for-peace

Some people are extraordinarily unique and change the game completely. We here at NOT REAL ART are pleased to present last year’s episode on Juxtapoz Magazine founder and lowbrow art enthusiast Greg Escalante. Escalante was a bona fide maverick and trailblazer, carving out a space where so many of us could feel at home.

For this episode, originally aired April 9, 2021, some 30 artists and friends gathered to record personal audio messages in honor of Escalante’s birthday on April 17. To celebrate the episode’s one-year anniversary, we’re baking a cake, lighting the candles, and remembering Escalante’s impact for one more turn around the sun.

Juxtapoz, the publication Escalante co-founded with cartoonist Robert Williams, is still a leading work in the alternative and underground art space. Escalante's legacy is about far more than the magazine—it’s about the community he built and the lives he touched. During the show, you’ll hear tributes from many of the artists who were impacted by Greg, including Robert Williams, Shag, Shepard Fairy, Elizabeth McGrath, and Chaz Bojórquez, just to name just a few.

The episode is hosted by NOT REAL ART founder, Scott “Sourdough” Power, Heidi Johnson of Hijinx Artist Management & PR, and Wendy Sherman, who acted as Escalante’s personal assistant and gallery manager. Johnson and Sherman share their fondest memories of Greg, like his love of ice cream, their travels, and what a day spent with him would look like.

Tune in to this week’s episode to hear the profound impact Escalante had, not just on the art world, but on the many weird and wonderful people in it.

• The first time “Sourdough” heard about Escalante and Juxtapoz in 1995
• Hans's experience of being in Southern California in the center of the community Escalante was building
• Heidi's experience of working with Escalante and how they helped one another's careers
• Hear artists like Robert Williams, Mark Ryden and Scott Hess share stories about their dear friend, Escalante
• Merry Karnowsky, Ben Goretsky, Shag, Shepard Fairy, and Shana Nys Dambrot honor Escalante
• How Escalante changed Elizabeth McGrath's life and career forever
• What a day spend with Escalante in Chinatown would look like
• Heidi shares a story of a dinner she and Escalante went to when he had a rare drink
• Reflecting on some of Escalante’s wild birthday celebrations
• How Escalante approached studio visits with his characteristic generosity and openness
• More artists, including Marnie Weber, Natalia Faber, Timothy Robert Smith share what Escalante meant to them
• Escalante had a unique way of making people feel truly seen
• The timeline of starting Juxtapoz; it all happened very quickly after he met Robert
• What Juxtapoz means to the art world and artists who ordinarily would have been ignored
• The story of how Robert and Escalante connected and met
• Chaz Bojórquez shares the story of his and Escalante's friendship
• Some other artists tell stories of their memories with Escalante
• Escalante's experience of seeing Robert's work on the cover of Thrasher
• Escalante's relationships with gallerists were as special and unique as his ones with artists
• Insights into Escalante's generosity with his art collection and his penchant for giving art away.
• Reflecting on the fun that Escalante brought to the often serious art world
• Escalante’s varied music taste and his love for all genres
• Hear about Escalante's spiritual life and what he might have thought about The Vatican
• The story of how Wendy met Escalante after being interested in lowbrow art for many years
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Today on Not Real Art, we are joined by the one and only Jimmy Smith from Amusement Park Entertainment (APE), an advertising legend who has been in the game since 1985. He got his start working on the Nike ‘Just Do It’ campaign and his career has included stints at Wieden & Kennedy, where he created ‘Book of Dimes’, an ad starring LeBron James and Bernie Mac for Nike; BBDO, where he served as Executive Creative Director for Motorola; and TBWA/Chiat/Day L.A., where he was Group Creative Director for Gatorade. In 2012, Fast Company named Jimmy one of the Top 100 Most Creative People and, in today’s episode, he shares with us the power of ideas and why it’s so important for creatives, especially creatives of color, to treat their ideas as precious resources. We also discuss the difference between making an ad and creating a piece of culture that lives on long after the campaign is over and Jimmy shares the incredible story of how he convinced Luke Aikens to jump out of a plane without a parachute for Stride Gum in 2016. For more awe-inspiring stories from a true creative force to be reckoned with, make sure not to miss this episode with Jimmy Smith!

Key Points From This Episode:

• The importance of aligning yourself with the innovators and one-upping the ‘knuckleheads’.
• Why Jimmy believes the highest-paid people are oftentimes the givers.
• Some of the challenges that come with creating something completely new.
• Why you’re probably not innovating if you aren’t ruffling some feathers.
• The battles creatives have to go through sometimes to bring their visions to life.
• Why Sourdough encourages creatives to “take heart” when their ideas are stolen.
• Jimmy emphasizes the value of treating ideas as precious, especially as a Black creative.
• Insight into why APE co-owns ideas with the brands they work with.
• The difference between making an ad and creating a piece of culture that lives on.
• Hear the story of how Jimmy got Luke Aikens to agree to jump from a plane without a parachute for Stride Gum.
• The quote from Jo Muse that Jimmy lives by, which starts with “think the unthinkable."
• Jimmy cautions that, as crazy as your ideas are, they have to still serve the client.
• Some of the ideas he is working on right now, including an oil product that reduces smog.
• How he has seen the advertising game evolve and where he believes it is headed.
• Examples of how brands can leverage podcasting to their benefit.
• Jimmy closes with his belief that, if it isn’t going to be great, it’s time to go home!

For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/jimmy-smith