Explore every episode of the podcast No Safe Words with October and Tony Gonzalez

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Tony and Tobie kick things off by letting you into their world; from their similarities and differences to the story of how they first met at Dennis Rodman’s bar… while Tobie had a boyfriend. They also pay tribute to Dolly Parton, reflecting on her decades-long marriage to Carl Dean and how the couple managed to balance love, independence and life in the spotlight. Tony and Tobie explore whether being opposites can actually make a relationship stronger, and get surprisingly candid about what happens when “till death do us part” becomes a reality. Finally, they break down their own “rules” of marriage, the boundaries and habits that have worked for them, and what they believe has helped their relationship last more than 20 years.

It’s love, marriage, death and Dennis Rodman. No topic is off-limits, and there are definitely no safe words.

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