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No Boxes: Just Verses is where inspiring leaders reveal the songs and stories that shaped their journey. Join host Shannon Nash, a global C-suite leader, attorney, and CPA, as she goes beyond titles and trophies to explore the moments that truly defined today's top executives, entrepreneurs, and artists.

Each episode is a deep dive into a guest's personal "Leadership Playlist," uncovering the pivotal lessons and life-changing moments tied to the music that moved them. From career breakthroughs to personal reinvention, we explore the authentic, unboxed stories behind extraordinary success.

This isn't your typical leadership podcast. It's a rich blend of leadership development, personal storytelling, and musical discovery. Whether you're an aspiring leader, a seasoned executive, or simply a music lover, you'll find powerful insights and a vibrant community here.

Come for the stories, stay for the playlist. Subscribe now and join us as we redefine leadership, one verse at a time.

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In this inspiring Verses in Service episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we celebrate the journey of Elicia Pegues Spearman, CEO of Girl Scouts of Connecticut and a true trailblazer. Are you a leader trying to make a bold career pivot from law to operations, or looking to build a career defined by service and joy? Elicia's story is a powerful testament to the value of kindness, strategic networking, and why the "soft skills" you learn on the job are the real currency of the C-Suite. Tune in to hear the playbook for achieving firsts and leading with authentic joy.

Elicia Pegues Spearman is a force in executive leadership, known for her record of achieving historical "firsts." She is the Chief Executive Officer of Girl Scouts of Connecticut and was the first person of color hired into the C-Suite at General Dynamics Electric Boat. A former in-house lawyer who worked for the FBI, she successfully pivoted her career into Human Resources and operations. She is the first woman from Connecticut to serve as the North Atlantic Regional Director of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Incorporated.

Key Takeaways

• Kindness as a Foundational Skill: Learn how Elicia's childhood practice of always picking the last kid for the team instilled a lifelong core value of kindness and making space for others.
• The Strategic Move from Law to HR: Discover why Elicia voluntarily pivoted from being a lawyer to taking on roles in Human Resources—it taught her organizational design, compliance, and training—the crucial operational skills needed to run a business.
• The Power of the Lateral Move: Hear how she intentionally took a perceived lateral step (HR Business Partner) to gain intimate business knowledge right next to the finance clients, a skill that propelled her into executive leadership.
• Your Board of Advisors Should Be Well-Rounded: Find out why your most valuable mentors are often not CEOs but trusted friends and family who know you personally and will tell you the truth, knowing when "money's not everything."
• The Necessity of Asking for Grace: Understand why she had no regrets about asking for grace from her job and community leadership roles to be present with her father during his terminal illness—a vital lesson in prioritizing family over the clock.

Elicia Pegues Spearman’s journey is a powerful reminder that if you are grounded in kindness and constantly seeking knowledge, your career will be defined by an abundance of joy and purpose. Who do you need to add to your well-rounded Board of Advisors this week? Follow Elicia's journey of service and let her inspire your next move!

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Theme Song: Pedal to the Medal by Martin Luther (Spotify | Apple Music) 

In this special Verses in Service miniseries episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we sit down with powerhouse operator and servant leader, Nichole Jordan. Are you a leader battling imposter syndrome, navigating traumatic personal loss, or looking for the blueprint to authentic leadership in corporate America? Nichole's journey is a powerful testament to adaptability, resilience, and the core belief that self-worth is your ultimate superpower. From being the first Black woman in the Wharton West Coast program to scaling tech companies across five continents, this conversation provides the playbook for leading with vulnerability, trust, and purpose.

Nichole Jordan, COO of Indr, Inc., scales go-to-market strategies and builds customer success practices. Formerly COO at Remix Software (acquired by Via), she managed executive accounts for 400+ cities globally. Jordan is a national board member for Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. as Far Western Regional Director, and serves on the American Red Cross Bay Area Board of Directors (BioMed committee, sickle cell initiative). She is also a member of The Links, Incorporated (San Francisco chapter) and was President of the African American Art and Culture Complex Board (2011-2016). 

Key Takeaways:Learn how Nichole's childhood—moving to seven different elementary schools—taught her early lessons in adaptability, observation, and the critical skill of quickly building trust in any new environment.

• Discover why a leader's ability to show empathy and vulnerability and build non-work related connections is the foundation of trust, leading people to follow you because they know you genuinely care.
• Hear Nichole's struggle with imposter syndrome in her high-powered MBA program and how she learned to use the song "Masterpiece" as a mantra to remind herself that she was "perfectly made by God" and a masterpiece just as she is.
• Find out why Nichole quit her job after profound personal loss, only to be hired back with a promotion months later. She channeled her grief into personal rebuilding (therapy, fitness) and trusted that stepping out on faith would lead to a better role.
• Understand why her commitment to organizations like Alpha Kappa Alpha and the American Red Cross (in honor of her brother) is not a hobby, but a civil rights mission that provides community, sisterhood, and a foundation of lifelong service.

Nichole Jordan's journey is a powerful reminder that vulnerability is strength and that your ability to lead with authenticity is your true competitive edge. Where can you show up more authentically this week? Find Nichole's full playlist and start building your own blueprint for unboxed leadership!

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Theme Song: Pedal to the Medal by Martin Luther (Spotify | Apple Music) 

In this special edition of No Boxes: Just Verses, recorded live from Beverly Hills, we sit down with legendary MLB All-Star and current Senate candidate, Steve Garvey. Have you ever wondered what it takes to build a career defined by consistency and durability, both on and off the field? Steve's journey is a powerful testament to the value of mentorship, seizing opportunity, and the courage to reinvent yourself. This conversation goes beyond the baseball diamond to reveal the songs and stories that shaped a leader known for his reliability and integrity.

Steve Garvey is a former Major League Baseball first baseman, best known for his iconic years with the LA Dodgers and San Diego Padres. A 10-time All-Star and 1974 NL MVP, he holds the National League record for consecutive games played with 1,207. Celebrated for his consistency and leadership, Garvey has amassed over 2,600 hits in his 19-year career. He is currently a candidate for the U.S. Senate.

Key Takeaways:

• Mentorship Starts Early: Learn how a chance encounter with Jackie Robinson and Roy Campanella when he was a seven-year-old bat boy gave him a foundational lesson on working hard and doing well in school to have options beyond baseball.
• The Courage to Seize the Moment: Discover how a last-minute opportunity to play first base during a doubleheader changed his entire career trajectory and taught him to always be prepared to seize the moment, no matter how small the chance.
• Humility and Preparation for Life After the Game: Hear how Garvey used his off-seasons to work for companies and learn about business, recognizing that a professional career is short and that a leader must prepare for "after the cheering stops".
• Civility as a Leadership Principle: Learn how a conversation between President Reagan and Tip O’Neill inspired Garvey’s belief in the importance of political civility and discourse, even with people who have completely different ideologies.

Steve Garvey’s journey proves that the best leaders are those who are open to new experiences and never stop trying to make a difference. What lessons from his story will you carry with you?

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Theme Song: Pedal to the Medal by Martin Luther (Spotify | Apple Music) 

In this amazing episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we're joined by the one and only Shaun Robinson. Are you a leader trying to navigate a changing industry, find your purpose beyond your career, or make a lasting impact on your community? Shaun’s journey is a powerful testament to the value of hard work, strategic career-building, and using your platform to empower others. We explore her unboxed path from her Detroit roots to the red carpet, and how her friendships with music legends taught her some of the most profound lessons on leadership and self-worth.

Shaun Robinson is a television host, actress, and producer best known for her 16 incredible years with Access Hollywood and her role as the face of TLC’s 90 Day Fiancé reunion specials. A proud graduate of Spelman College, she is a passionate advocate for girls and women, running the Shaun Foundation for Girls to support programs in STEM, health, arts, and more. She has also written a book to help girls build self-esteem and has produced and acted in numerous films and TV shows.

Key Takeaways:

• The Power of Seeing It to Believe It: Shaun shares how seeing a Black female news anchor on TV as a child inspired her to become a journalist and gave her the conviction to succeed despite facing doubt.
• Longevity Comes from Skill: Learn how Shaun’s long and hard grind in local news markets prepared her for her big break at Access Hollywood and why a real skill set, not just being "cute," is the key to lasting success in a volatile industry.
• Turning a Platform into Purpose: Hear why Shaun left a 16-year career at Access Hollywood to create the Shaun Foundation for Girls, and how she built a nonprofit that supports other organizations in her community's pillars.
• Lessons from Legends: Discover the leadership wisdom Shaun gained from her friendships with Aretha Franklin and Prince, including the importance of reading a contract and owning your own content.

Shaun’s story proves that every step of your journey—from childhood dreams to professional pivots—is part of your purpose. Join us in building our leadership playlists and support the Shaun Foundation for Girls in their mission to empower the next generation.

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Theme Song: Pedal to the Medal by Martin Luther (Spotify | Apple Music) 

In this powerful episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we sit down with financial leadership expert Jack McCullough, founder of the CFO Leadership Council. Are you a leader battling imposter syndrome, navigating personal setbacks, or trying to build a career that goes beyond the numbers? Jack’s story is a masterclass in turning personal challenges into empathetic leadership. From being a wimpy kid (his words!) to leading a global network of thousands, he reveals how his journey forged a deep commitment to community, mentorship, and building a safe space for others.

Jack McCullough is a recognized financial leadership expert and the founder of the CFO Leadership Council, a global network of over 2,500 senior financial executives. A former CFO for multiple organizations, he has played a key role in helping CFOs expand their influence beyond finance to become strategic business leaders. Jack has published three books, including MBA for Lunch earlier this year, and serves a senior contributor to the Forbes CFO Network, and host of the Secrets of Rockstar CFOs podcast. His insights have been featured in The Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg, CNBC, and he has appeared on Fox Business Network and Your World with Neil Cavuto. Jack earned his MBA from MIT Sloan School of Management.

Key Takeaways:

• The Scars That Build Empathy: Jack shares how being a bullied, socially awkward kid gave him a lifelong mission to stand up for others and taught him that niceness is a sign of strength, not weakness.
• Overcoming Imposter Syndrome: Learn how Jack, despite his achievements, felt like an admissions error at MIT Sloan. He discovered that his unique background was a valuable asset that his classmates respected and sought advice from.
• From Personal Pain to Purpose: Hear how the defining challenge of his life—raising two autistic sons—made him a more patient, kinder, and empathetic leader, inspiring him to mentor others going through similar struggles.
• Building a Community from Rejection: Discover the origin story of the CFO Leadership Council, which was born after Jack was rejected by another professional group. He created the network he needed, fostering a judgment-free community of operators.

Jack’s story proves that a leader's true strength is not in a perfect background, but in the lessons they learn from their personal journey. 

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Theme Song: Pedal to the Medal by Martin Luther (Spotify | Apple Music) 

In this inspiring episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we're joined by trailblazing board director and former senior executive, Barbara Adachi. Are you a leader trying to navigate an unconventional career path or facing a moment of doubt? Barbara's journey is a masterclass in resilience, mentorship, and building a legacy of impact. We explore her upbringing in a diverse community, her rise through the ranks at Deloitte as the first minority and female partner to lead her practice, and her current mission to pay it forward by mentoring the next generation.

Barbara Adachi is a trailblazing board director and former senior executive known for her expertise in human capital strategy and inclusive leadership. As the first minority and female partner to lead the national human capital consulting business at Deloitte, she championed the firm's Women’s Initiative. She currently serves on the boards of VSP Vision and Old Republic International. Barbara is also the Lead Executive Advisor for Ascend Pinnacle, a network focused on increasing AAPI representation on corporate boards.

Key Takeaways:

• Discover how a diverse upbringing taught her the power of a supportive community and perseverance.
• Learn how a visionary mentor changed her career trajectory by seeing her potential and giving her a chance.
• Hear why she was willing to walk away from a job she wanted to stay true to her own principles.
• Find out why paying it forward through mentorship is a leader's most fulfilling work.

Barbara’s playlist is a joyful anthem of resilience, proving that anything can happen when you're willing to try. What songs have shaped your journey? 

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Theme Song: Pedal to the Medal by Martin Luther (Spotify | Apple Music) 

In this episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we're joined by global communications leader Debbie Frost, a woman who has helped build two of the biggest tech companies in the world: Google and Meta (formerly Facebook). Are you a professional feeling pressured to follow a specific career path? Do you want to pivot your career but fear the risk? 

Debbie’s journey is a masterclass in breaking free from expectations and finding your own lane. We explore how her upbringing across three continents shaped her into a leader who thrived during the hyper-growth of these tech giants and who now dedicates her time to philanthropic causes she cares deeply about.

Debbie Frost is a seasoned global communications leader who served as Vice President of International and Policy Communications at Facebook (now Meta). Prior to that, she built the Global Communications and Public Affairs function at Google during its super-hyper growth years. 

Debbie was a member of the executive leadership team at Facebook, where she helped grow the company from 100 million to over 2 billion users. Her journey is a testament to the power of following your own path and finding your purpose in the intersection of law, policy, and human impact.

Key Takeaways:

• Break Free from the Box: Debbie shares how she pivoted from a law career to public relations, teaching us that sometimes the path we're expected to follow isn't the one meant for us.
• The Importance of Global Context: Learn how a diverse upbringing across Hong Kong, Australia, and the UK prepared Debbie to lead international communications at a global scale and to understand the impact of policies on people.
• Building Resilience in Hyper-Growth: Discover how facing immense personal challenges while working at a high-pressure, scaling startup forged a "titanium" level of resilience.
• The Power of an Empathetic Leader: Find out how a compassionate boss during a difficult time taught Debbie the value of leading with empathy and supporting women in the workplace.

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Theme Song: Pedal to the Medal by Martin Luther (Spotify | Apple Music) 

In this episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we're joined by the multitalented actress, director, and producer, Terri J. Vaughn. Are you a leader trying to balance your career with your personal life, stay true to your purpose, or pivot when life throws you a curveball? Terri’s story is a masterclass in heart, humor, and honesty. This conversation goes beyond the spotlight to explore the roots of her resilience and the five songs that shaped her journey from a childhood in the Bay Area to a Hollywood powerhouse.

Terri J. Vaughn is an award-winning actress, director, and producer known for her iconic roles in shows like The Steve Harvey Show and films like Friday. She is also a three-time NAACP Image Award winner and a powerhouse behind the camera, directing for major networks and streaming platforms. Terri is the founder of the Take Wings Foundation, a nonprofit dedicated to mentoring young girls.

Key Takeaways:

• The Power of Purpose: Learn how Terri’s humble beginnings and family support led her to create a foundation to empower young girls and why finding your purpose is the key to a lasting career.
• Faith Over Fear: Discover how Terri took a leap of faith to pursue a career she never even dreamed of and how her belief in a higher power guided her steps when things got tough.
• The Leadership Lesson of the Pivot: Hear how Terri embraced an unexpected marriage and family, teaching us that true leaders must be willing to pivot and change their plans when life presents a new pathway.
• Leading with Joy and Empathy: Find out how Terri, as a director, uses music to shift the energy on set, bringing her team together with empathy and humor to create great content.

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Theme Song: Pedal to the Medal by Martin Luther (Spotify | Apple Music) 

In this episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we're joined by a true powerhouse couple, Leah and Dana Pump. Are you a leader trying to build a legacy, balance family and business, or find purpose after a setback? Leah and Dana share their incredible journey, from humble beginnings and tough life lessons to building a multi-million-dollar sports enterprise and two impactful foundations. This conversation is a masterclass in entrepreneurship, community building, and the power of a supportive partnership.

Leah Pump is the President and CEO of the Ladylike Foundation, a faith-based nonprofit empowering young women. An educator by trade, she has helped countless girls from under-resourced communities gain admission to top universities.

Dana Pump is the Co-founder, President, and CEO of the Harold and Carol Pump Foundation, which has raised millions for cancer care. He is also the co-founder of Double Pump Inc., a global sports and entertainment agency that has helped over 1,000 student-athletes earn college scholarships.

Key Takeaways:

• The Blueprint for Entrepreneurship: Learn how a childhood of hard work, an entrepreneurial father, and a business-minded mother laid the foundation for Dana's multi-million-dollar sports and philanthropy career.
• Turning Tragedy into Triumph: Discover how the passing of their parents inspired Dana and his brother to create a lasting family legacy by raising over $15 million for cancer care.
• The Power of a Visionary Coach: Leah shares how a trusted coach in her life helped her move past a painful past and embrace a new, "unboxed" future she never imagined, leading her to her husband and her life's purpose.
• Building Partnerships, Not Transactions: The couple's story highlights how a successful partnership, in both business and life, is rooted in mutual support, respect, and a genuine desire to help others without expectation of return.

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Theme Song: Pedal to the Medal by Martin Luther (Spotify | Apple Music)