Nine Deeps of Space – Details, episodes & analysis

I've had an axe to grind with this overrated episode for a long time. I thought a long, hard look at recent news had finally crystallized that, but maybe not.

It's about stuff.

Ignore what I say in the supplemental; it's our second season but Deep Space Nine's first. 

We talk a little bit about this season past, the future of characters and stories, and how likeable flawed characters have to be.

The future of Nine Deeps of Space is currently undecided, but regular episodes of The Beige and The Bold are starting today over there. https://anchor.fm/tbntb

We're talking about jumpsuit padding, shapeshifter leather, and putting Siri in a runabout this week as hardened investigator and goo of the world Odo is taken in by an alien who knows nothing about anything.

Also, this Odo/Quark tension is getting palpable in the rewatch. I get it now, Quodo shippers. You are seen.

I guess my final read on Crodin is that he was doing all these criminal things for his daughter. That's good. But maybe I'm irrationally judgey over how comfortable he is with those criminal things. Committing a hold-up of strangers for a ship is reasonable, but he's really good at lying, he projects that he's comfortable with murder, and he's a really good liar. Like really good. Like Nathan Lane in The Producers telling him how good he is at lying. Am I being too harsh?

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.

This one took a bit longer because I did some additional editing work on it.

Welcome to our apolitical show where the SOCIALIST actor mocks the RICH, LIBERTARIAN FATCATS of our day. We have NO strong feelings about Jordan Peterson!

But honestly, Zek is a pretty canny operator in this one. The downfall of many leaders is the issue of succession and the ability of nepotistic transfers of power confer the skills of earning power to someone born into it. Despite the fact that it goes over the top more than doomed regiments in the Somme, it has a great B-story and tells us a lot about The Ferengi?

Is it in the middle of Deep Space Nine's annual (sometimes more than annual) Ferengi episodes? There's some wild swings in there and I answered off the cuff. Is it really four of seven (eight?).

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.

It's The Heartbreaker. "Move Along Home" broke Derek; it's a show that can break a man. So I'm happy that Kit and I can rip on it for 45 minutes because it's SO BAD!

So come along with us as we talk Mousetrap (and other board games), Armin Shimmerman's acting, and whatever accent Lt. Primmin is affecting (HE IS NOT SOUTHERN!). 

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep  Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night  at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and  The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.

We get into it pretty quickly. There are a lot of questions. Well, one question, "Who is Vantika?"

It's answered in the teaser, but we also get to see Odo act out and talk a bit about Sisko doing admin. So there's a lot happening here.

Also, Lt Primmin is not a Southerner! This is a point of contention!

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.

Jadzia Dax is on trial for the, alleged, crimes committed by Kurzon Dax and we spend a plurality of our time discussing Trill probate law and an app called Spotz that lets you hire Trill to point at other Trill. So it's a good one. What can we say?

We can say that your parents are probably still having sex and once the sentient slug inside of you is put into a new, younger host body, that slug will have parents-having-sex knowledge for each life you've lived...except you're the parents!

Moore's Law was from 1965, not the 70's so I will continue to make jokes at Trek's expense over their stupid, stupid data storage solutions.

Because of the unplanned break, I'll be doubling up and putting new episodes up until we're squaresies, which should be around "The Nagus."

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.

There's so many things wrong with this episode--actually, just the one thing wrong. The all-powerful being harassing his powerless ex without a moral core, lesson learned, or any point to it really except for how we're supposed to find the cruelty funny. 

Also, there's a sci-fi "thing" that's so token I feel you could lose it at Quark's dabo table.

The Skeleton War was 2014, not 2012. I apologize to all veterans of the Skeleton War and thank you for your service.

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.

It's our first O'Brien episode. No, he doesn't get tortured. Why would you even ask that?

"Captive Pursuit" captures a lot of early Deep Space Nine. There's a lot of TNG's mystery stories, but with more action. The characters are actual characters, but without their throughlines or an ungrayed moral lesson, it can feel pointless. In the series' urgent attempts to ingratiate itself with fans, like including the Duras sisters a few weeks ago and Q next week, it feels like it's ignoring the strengths of Star Trek and its own strengths.

I do wonder how TNG, TOS, Voyager, or even Discovery would have handled an episode like Captive Pursuit.

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.

So we've moved past the humor/horror of "isn't this happening now, lol," TV logic, and into the forgetting references. Titus Andronicus was the Shakespeare play. The Scrubs episode was Season 5, Episode 12 "My Cabbage."

DS9, like its predecessor, features officers who know how to make a scene dramatic. Starfleet sends out surveys for this kind of thing.

I feel like we don't have a big idea here. Things happen and while it's a good ensemble episode that's closer to mediocre than bad, I just don't see the point of it. It illustrates how people can be selfish in a crisis, but the story doesn't really care about that; it just works around it.

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.