Next Up with Grant Skeldon – Details, episodes & analysis

In this episode, our own Grant Skeldon sits down with Grant & Madi Troutt for a raw conversation on what it looks like to follow Jesus when the world—and even the church—is obsessed with platform.

Are we using God as a stepping stone to build our own influence, or is He truly our cornerstone? Grant and Madi open up about their whirlwind of transition moving to Nashville and the counter-cultural rhythms they're leaning into to stay grounded in the Spirit.

In this conversation, they dive into:

✅ How silencing the digital noise helps us become more present to the Holy Spirit and the people right in front of us. 

✅ How letting the Word dwell richly in their life has become the Troutts' ultimate defense against the comparison trap we all face.

✅ The beauty of prioritizing being known in their own living room and by their neighbors rather tha n just being a face on a stage. 

✅ The tension between our personal ambitions and the actual leading of the Spirit, especially in the gray areas of life.

If you're a young leader feeling the weight of performing your faith, this episode is a much-needed reminder to stop looking at the jumbotron and start looking at the One we're actually running the race for.

Follow Madi on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/madiprew/
and Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@madiprew/

Madi's Website: https://www.madiprew.com/

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Get more from the THINQ Podcast Network:

Rhythms for Life with Rebekah and Gabe Lyons: https://www.youtube.com/@rebekah_lyons

The InFormed Parent with Suzanne Phillips: https://www.youtube.com/@InFormedParent

UnderCurrent with Gabe Lyons: https://www.youtube.com/@gabe_lyons 

NeuroFaith with Curt Thompson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/neurofaith-with-curt-thompson-md/id1613240148

THINQ Podcast with Gabe Lyons: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thinq-media-podcast/id1072608281

What happens when you reach the peak of cultural influence and realize it's actually a cage?

To start off this new season of NextUp, podcaster and former OnlyFans star Nala Ray joins the conversation to pull back the curtain on the platform world. From navigating the relentless microscope of social media to finding a deeper identity in Christ, Nala shares with us the raw reality of leaving behind a massive platform to find true surrender. Listen as she explores the tension between building a name for yourself and discovering a calling in Christ that actually lasts.

In this episode, we discuss:

✅ The trap of "living your truth" and the search for objective reality.

✅ Navigating public scrutiny without losing your soul.

✅ Why surrender is the most courageous move a leader can make.

✅ Practical discernment for the next generation of leaders.

Nala's journey offers a powerful framework for what it means to lead with a servant's heart and finish well, whether you're leading a business, a ministry, or simply crafting your own digital footprint.

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Unlock the THINQ Summit 2025 All-Access Pass before it's released to the public: https://thinqmedia.com/access25

Get more from the THINQ Podcast Network:

Rhythms for Life with Rebekah and Gabe Lyons
The InFormed Parent with Suzanne Phillips
UnderCurrent with Gabe Lyons
NeuroFaith with Curt Thompson

In this episode, Grant sits down with author and entrepreneur Alan Hirsch to talk about why the Church has suppressed the language of the five-fold ministry—the apostle, prophet, evangelist, shepherd, and teacher—and why rediscovering it is the key to unlocking the potential of the next generation. If you've ever felt like a misfit in the church, like you have an angst or a passion that doesn't quite fit the mold, this conversation is for you!

Watch as Alan breaks down these callings as a direct extension of the ministry of Jesus himself and helps you understand your own unique wiring so you can move from feeling like a rebel to becoming the healthy, effective leader God created you to be. This isn't just another personality test; this is about activating the full potential of the body of Christ!

Check out Alan Hirsch's website: https://www.alanhirsch.org//

Follow Grant on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grantskeldon

Visit Grant's website: https://www.grantskeldon.com/

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Attend THINQ events where you can gather with like-minded leaders, ask better questions and have conversations that lead to wisdom: https://events.thinqmedia.com/

Sign up for THINQ Summit 2025 October 2-4 in Nashville, TN: https://events.thinqmedia.com/2025summit


Get more from the THINQ Podcast Network:

Rhythms for Life with Rebekah and Gabe Lyons: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rhythms-for-life/id1477541494

The InFormed Parent with Suzanne Phillips: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-informed-parent-with-suzanne-phillips/id1708269607

UnderCurrent with Gabe Lyons: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/undercurrent-with-gabe-lyons/id1683005631

NeuroFaith with Curt Thompson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/neurofaith-with-curt-thompson-md/id1613240148

Special Note: This episode addresses the subject of suicide and suicide prevention. If you are struggling with thoughts of suicide or would just like someone to talk to, please call or text 988 to speak to a counselor. The 988 Lifeline is free, confidential, and available 24/7/365.

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In this heavy episode, Grant sits down with Jacob Coyne, the founder of the incredible "Stay Here" movement. He shares the powerful story of how a conversation in Dallas led to a partnership with 57 NFL quarterbacks for a suicide prevention campaign that reached over 200 million people.

Jacob debunks the #1 myth that holds most leaders back from helping those who are struggling. He gets practical about what to do and say when someone you know uses language like, "I don't want to be here anymore." This isn't just about awareness; it's about action. It's about having the courage to be direct and the compassion to build communities where people can actually find healing.

If you're a pastor, a youth leader, or just someone who wants to know how to love people who are struggling well, this is for you.

For suicide help or prevention resources visit https://988lifeline.org/

Check out Stay Here: https://www.stayhere.live/

Follow Jacob on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jacobcoyne/

Visit Jacob's website: https://www.jacob-coyne.com/

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Sign up for THINQ Summit 2025 October 2-4 in Nashville, TN: https://events.thinqmedia.com/2025summit

Get more from the THINQ Podcast Network:

Rhythms for Life with Rebekah and Gabe Lyons: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rhythms-for-life/id1477541494

The InFormed Parent with Suzanne Phillips: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-informed-parent-with-suzanne-phillips/id1708269607

UnderCurrent with Gabe Lyons: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/undercurrent-with-gabe-lyons/id1683005631

NeuroFaith with Curt Thompson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/neurofaith-with-curt-thompson-md/id1613240148

In this episode, Grant sits down with JJ and Kait Tomlin for a deep dive into the latest trends transforming dating, singleness, and relationships in the church today. From navigating the paradox of choice, online dating, and social media, to biblical insights on singleness and community accountability—this conversation is packed with practical wisdom for next-gen leaders shaping a generation.

Whether you're leading a church, mentoring next gen, or just want to understand the cultural shifts around relationships, this episode will challenge and inspire you to steward love and singleness in a way that honors God and builds community. Let's equip the church to love well and lead intentionally in this new era.

Check out Heart of Dating: https://www.heartofdating.com/

Follow JJ on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jjtomlin/

Follow Kait on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kaitness/


Follow Grant on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grantskeldon

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Get more dating insights at THINQ Summit 2025 in Nashville, October 2-4! Along with a full lineup of dynamic speakers, Dr. Henry Cloud will give a keynote on The Dating Dilemma. Get your tickets today: https://events.thinqmedia.com/2025summit

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Attend THINQ events where you can gather with like-minded leaders, ask better questions and have conversations that lead to wisdom: https://events.thinqmedia.com/

Lead "Let's Talk Relationships" and "Let's Talk Mental Health" conversations with your family or small group: https://events.thinqmedia.com/relationships

https://events.thinqmedia.com/mentalhealth

Sign up for THINQ Summit 2025 October 2-4 in Nashville, TN: https://events.thinqmedia.com/2025summit

Get more from the THINQ Podcast Network:

Rhythms for Life with Rebekah and Gabe Lyons: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rhythms-for-life/id1477541494

The InFormed Parent with Suzanne Phillips: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-informed-parent-with-suzanne-phillips/id1708269607

UnderCurrent with Gabe Lyons: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/undercurrent-with-gabe-lyons/id1683005631

NeuroFaith with Curt Thompson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/neurofaith-with-curt-thompson-md/id1613240148

In this conversation, Dr. Glenn and Phyllis Hill reveal simple, life-changing tools called "Connection Codes" to transform your relationships—whether at home, in church, or in the workplace. You'll discover how we understand, process, and connect through our emotions, and you'll learn practical strategies to foster deeper authenticity, safety, and love.

Tune in and tap into your God-given design for connection and start creating relational breakthroughs today!

Learn more about Connection Codes here: https://connectioncodes.co/


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Attend THINQ events where you can gather with like-minded leaders, ask better questions and have conversations that lead to wisdom: https://events.thinqmedia.com/

Lead "Let's Talk Relationships" and "Let's Talk Mental Health" conversations with your family or small group: https://events.thinqmedia.com/relationships

https://events.thinqmedia.com/mentalhealth

Sign up for THINQ Summit 2025 October 2-4 in the heart of Nashville, TN: https://events.thinqmedia.com/2025summit

Get more from the THINQ Podcast Network:

Rhythms for Life with Rebekah and Gabe Lyons: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rhythms-for-life/id1477541494

The InFormed Parent with Suzanne Phillips: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-informed-parent-with-suzanne-phillips/id1708269607

UnderCurrent with Gabe Lyons: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/undercurrent-with-gabe-lyons/id1683005631

NeuroFaith with Curt Thompson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/neurofaith-with-curt-thompson-md/id1613240148

In this episode, Grant sits down with friend and pastor of Legacy Church in Nashville, Lyle Phillips, as they dive deep into the misunderstood world of speaking in tongues, church planting, and the heart behind generous ministry. Lyle shares powerful stories of God's faithfulness, urban mission, and the importance of collaboration within the body of Christ.

Whether you're looking to unlock biblical truth, challenge misconceptions about the Holy Spirit, or simply ignite your faith, this episode is packed with inspiring insights for the next generation of Christian leaders. Tune in now!

Follow Lyle on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lylebphillips/

and on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lylebphillips/


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Visit Grant's website: https://www.grantskeldon.com/

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Attend THINQ events where you can gather with like-minded leaders, ask better questions and have conversations that lead to wisdom: https://events.thinqmedia.com/

Lead "Let's Talk Relationships" and "Let's Talk Mental Health" conversations with your family or small group: 

https://events.thinqmedia.com/relationships

https://events.thinqmedia.com/mentalhealth

Sign up for THINQ Summit 2025 October 2-4 in Nashville, TN: https://events.thinqmedia.com/2025summit


Get more from the THINQ Podcast Network:

Rhythms for Life with Rebekah and Gabe Lyons: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rhythms-for-life/id1477541494

The InFormed Parent with Suzanne Phillips: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-informed-parent-with-suzanne-phillips/id1708269607

UnderCurrent with Gabe Lyons: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/undercurrent-with-gabe-lyons/id1683005631

NeuroFaith with Curt Thompson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/neurofaith-with-curt-thompson-md/id1613240148

In this inspiring conversation, Grant Skeldon and Megan Fate Marshman break down the biggest lies we believe as young leaders that keep us stuck in stress and anxiety. From the misconception that growth is all on us to the myth that we need to figure everything out alone, Megan offers fresh biblical insights and practical steps to invite God into every part of our journey.

Whether you're leading a team, walking through personal struggles, or just want to better align your heart with God's plans, this chat will help you see stress in a whole new light—and discover how to experience lasting peace by opening your heart to Him. Let's move from striving alone to walking in divine response together.

Get more from Megan here: https://www.meganfate.com/

Follow Megan on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/meganfate/


Follow Grant on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grantskeldon

Visit Grant's website: https://www.grantskeldon.com/


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Attend THINQ events where you can gather with like-minded leaders, ask better questions and have conversations that lead to wisdom: https://events.thinqmedia.com/


Lead "Let's Talk Relationships" and "Let's Talk Mental Health" conversations with your family or small group: https://events.thinqmedia.com/relationships

https://events.thinqmedia.com/mentalhealth


Sign up for THINQ Summit 2025 October 2-4 in Nashville, TN: https://events.thinqmedia.com/2025summit


Get more from the THINQ Podcast Network:

Rhythms for Life with Rebekah and Gabe Lyons: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rhythms-for-life/id1477541494

The InFormed Parent with Suzanne Phillips: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-informed-parent-with-suzanne-phillips/id1708269607

UnderCurrent with Gabe Lyons: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/undercurrent-with-gabe-lyons/id1683005631

NeuroFaith with Curt Thompson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/neurofaith-with-curt-thompson-md/id1613240148

Join Grant and Pastor Dino Rizzo as they dive into the heart of biblical principles like honor, respect, and living with humility in leadership. This inspiring conversation uncovers practical ways to cultivate a culture of honor within your church, ministry, or personal life—especially for the next generation of Christian leaders. Discover biblical insights from the Hebrew word kabad, learn how honor can open doors instead of closing them, and explore how prayer and intentional relationships build a foundation for lifelong impact.

This episode is perfect for young pastors, emerging leaders, and faith-driven influencers wanting to lead with integrity and grace in today's fast-paced world. Watch now to be encouraged, challenged, and equipped to elevate your leadership through honor.

Follow Dino on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/dinorizzo/

and on Twitter/X here: https://x.com/dinorizzo/

Follow Grant on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grantskeldon

and at his website: https://www.grantskeldon.com/

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Create a free THINQ Account and download the THINQ Media app on your smart TV to access more trusted content like this on topics from all channels of culture at https://thinqmedia.com

Apply the THINQ Framework as you think through cultural topics: https://thinqmedia.com/videos/thinq-framework

Attend THINQ events where you can gather with like-minded leaders, ask better questions and have conversations that lead to wisdom: https://events.thinqmedia.com/

Lead "Let's Talk Relationships" and "Let's Talk Mental Health" conversations with your family or small group: https://events.thinqmedia.com/relationships

https://events.thinqmedia.com/mentalhealth

Sign up for THINQ Summit 2025 October 2-4 in Nashville, TN: https://events.thinqmedia.com/2025summit

Get more from the THINQ Podcast Network:

Rhythms for Life with Rebekah and Gabe Lyons: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rhythms-for-life/id1477541494

The InFormed Parent with Suzanne Phillips: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-informed-parent-with-suzanne-phillips/id1708269607

UnderCurrent with Gabe Lyons: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/undercurrent-with-gabe-lyons/id1683005631

NeuroFaith with Curt Thompson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/neurofaith-with-curt-thompson-md/id1613240148

Discover the art of meaningful conversation with author and pastor Carey Niehwhoff in this inspiring episode. Grant dives deep into how asking the right questions—with genuine curiosity, humility, and intentional listening—can unlock deeper connections, transform leadership, and fuel authentic influence.

Designed for the next generation of Christian leaders, this conversation explores how to lead with integrity, foster trust, and build relationships that truly make a difference—one question at a time. Whether you're seeking wisdom for your calling or looking to strengthen your influence, this episode will leave you inspired to listen, learn, and lead with purpose.

Find more from Carey here: https://careynieuwhof.com/

Subscribe to Carey's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/CareyNieuwhof/

Follow Carey on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/careynieuwhof/

Follow Grant on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grantskeldon

and at his website: https://www.grantskeldon.com/

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Apply the THINQ Framework as you think through cultural topics: https://thinqmedia.com/videos/thinq-framework

Attend THINQ events where you can gather with like-minded leaders, ask better questions and have conversations that lead to wisdom: https://events.thinqmedia.com/

➡︎Lead the "Let's Talk Relationships" conversation with your family or small group: https://events.thinqmedia.com/relationships

Sign up for THINQ Summit 2025 October 2-4 in Nashville, TN: https://events.thinqmedia.com/2025summit

Get more from the THINQ Podcast Network:

Rhythms for Life with Rebekah and Gabe Lyons: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rhythms-for-life/id1477541494

The InFormed Parent with Suzanne Phillips: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-informed-parent-with-suzanne-phillips/id1708269607

UnderCurrent with Gabe Lyons: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/undercurrent-with-gabe-lyons/id1683005631

NeuroFaith with Curt Thompson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/neurofaith-with-curt-thompson-md/id1613240148