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Reanimator: AI and Shared Histories04 Jun 202500:51:05

Hans confronts the technological, moral, and philosophical impacts of using Artificial Intelligence to animate still photos, including those of both personal and historical significance.

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Animating History

Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. This episodes contributing producer was Tori Dominguez Peek. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta.

Never Post is a production of Charts & Leisure

Hentai and the Post-Platform Internet23 May 202500:54:46

Mike talks with Morgan Sung of KQED’s Close All Tabs podcast and PhD Media and Technology researcher Aurelie Petit about hentai and platforms. Georgia talks with WIRED gear reviews editor Boone Ashworth about the tariffs coming for your fashion microtrends. ALSO: Ask an Expert with Avery Dame-Griff.

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Ask an Expert

The Post-Platform Internet

MFW They Come for the Little Treats

Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. This episodes contributing producer was Tori Dominguez Peek. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta.

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The Day The Vibes Died26 Feb 202501:01:42

Georgia talks with Matt Pearce – journalist, former president of Media Guild of the West, and senior policy advisor for Rebuild Local News – about the info environment on Tiktok around its 12 hour ban in the US. The team asks WHAT IS GOING ON HERE. Also: Computer Whiz!

Intro Links

  • William McFarland Pleads Guilty In Manhattan Federal Court To Defrauding Investors And A Ticket Vendor Of Over $26 Million, justice.gov
  • EXCLUSIVE: Fyre Festival 2: Dates, location and how to get tickets, Today
  • Microsoft CEO Admits That AI Is Generating Basically No Value, Futurism
  • Microsoft Dropped Some AI Data Center Leases, TD Cowen Says,  Bloomberg
  • How Temu’s supply chain is changing, RetailBrew
  • Temu Overhauls Supply Chain on Tariffs, Risking Price Hikes, Bloomberg
  • UK users are losing a key Apple security feature, raising questions about the future of privacy, CNN

Tiktok’s Leftovers Hours

What Is Going On Here

Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta.

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Mad Chat14 Feb 202500:52:57

Mike talks with artist, researcher and online harassment expert Caroline Sinders about blocking people online. What’s it for, and what kinds of feeling do we have when using it? Then, friend of the show Meghal Janardan speaks to children’s book author Laura Dower about her series “From the Files of Madison Finn”, an early exploration about what it was like being young, and online, at the turn of the millennium. Also: ssshhhhhh library asmr


Intro Links

  • Wired Establishes Itself as the Digital Thorn in Elon Musk’s Side, The Wrap 
  • Introducing ChatGPT Gov, OpenAI
  • As Trump Offers Buyout to Get Rid of as Many Government Workers as Possible, OpenAI Announces New Version of ChatGPT Designed to Do Government Work, Futurism
  • Union lawsuit seeks to block ‘deferred resignation’ program, Federal News Network
  • EU sets out guidance on banning harmful AI uses, TechXplore
  • The Impact of Generative AI on Critical Thinking: Self-Reported Reductions in Cognitive Effort and Confidence Effects From a Survey of Knowledge Workers, Advait.com
  • Google drops pledge not to use AI for weapons or surveillance, Washington Post
  • Google scraps its diversity hiring goals as it complies with Trump’s new government contractor rules, APNews
  • Vance gets the TikTok portfolio, Punchbowl

What If There Were Fewer Connections?

Journalists’ Use of Social Media Disconnection Practices: ‘I Try Not to Block People, but…’

Dr Dawn Wheatley, dcu.ie

Find Caroline:

From the Files of Madison Finn

Find Laura:

Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta.

The soft rumor of spreading weeds. The sound of things ruined by the wind. The come to me as if I were the heart of all that exists. I would like to be dead, and also to go inside another’s hear

Mailbag #605 Feb 202500:58:10

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Here’s Looking at You29 Jan 202500:58:46

Georgia talks with politics and internet reporter David Mack about whether disgraced politicians are attempting to launder their reputations on Cameo. Plus, Hans finds out what it feels like to answer an unanswerable question about how many cameras there are in the world. Also: the sounds of our collective TikTok Journey.


Intro Links

Cameo’s Reputation Machine

Find David:

How Many Cameras Are There?

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State of the Pod: 202515 Jan 202500:50:56

To celebrate the 1-year anniversary of launching Never Post, Mike, Jason and Hans gather to talk about how it went; and to break down how many people listened, how much money changed hands, and what to expect from the show in 2025.


Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta.

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Post-Mortem: 202431 Dec 202401:07:10

A three-round trivia game with 6 of our favorite internet professionals to send off 2024

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Thanks to EX Research and The Pudding for their help writing questions for Post-Mortem 2024!

Our Esteemed Panel:

Nerds of a Feather / The Lilybrary of Tomgress

The Dog Hots

The Garbage Men

Assorted links you may be interested in:

  • Why Chappell Roan Told MTV VMAs Attendee to "Shut the F--k Up" - E!Online
  • Netflix, Paramount Ask Canada Court to Amend New Trudeau Tax – Yahoo! Finance
  • Not even Spotify is safe from AI slop – The Verge
  • The #3 Most Viral Song in the World Is an AI-Generated, Xenophobic Parody – PCMag
  • “Dodgers Gawr Gura” on eBay
  • “mistakes into miracles” on DeviantArt (potentially NSFW)
  • emojistats.bsky.sh
  • The Willy Wonka Event’s Lead Actor Speaks Out: ‘It Was Just Gibberish’ - WIRED

Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta.

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The One Thing You Can Do For Yourself18 Dec 202400:52:23

Georgia talks with beauty reporter and critic Jessica DeFino about the capitalistic excesses of
“self-care” online; Mike talks with Today in Tabs’ Rusty Foster about logging off. Also: UNBOXING.



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Intro Links

  • TikTok CEO meets with Trump while asking for Supreme Court to take up ban appeal – UPI
  • Hawk Tuah Haliey Welch's Crypto Team Nets £2.59M Amid Botched Token Launch, Fans File SEC Complaints – IBTimes
  • Researchers Consider the Relationship Between Misinformation, Outrage, and the Sharing of Content on Social Media – TechPolicy
  • Online influencers need ‘urgent’ fact-checking training, warns Unesco – The Guardian
  • Teens, Social Media and Technology 2024 – Pew Research

The Horrors Persist, But So Do The Little Treats

Find Jessica:

Segment Links:

Touching Trail

Find Rusty:

Most of the TikTok users (64%) and almost half of the Instagram users (48%) were prepared to pay to be off them, so long as others were off them, resulting in average valuations across all use

Leaving Social Media Roundtable04 Dec 202401:07:45

Georgia, Hans, Jason, and Mike discuss their experiences leaving social platforms behind.

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Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta.

On the last evening on this earth, we sever our days
from our trees, and count the ribs we will carry along
and the ribs we will leave behind, right here . . . on the last evening
we bid nothing farewell, we don't find the time to end who we are . . .
everything remains the same, the place exchanges our dreams
and exchanges its visitors. Suddenly we are incapable of satire
since the place is ready to host the dust . . . here on the last evening
we contemplate mountains surrounding clouds: a conquest and a counterconquest
and an ancient time handing over our door keys to the new time

Excerpt of Eleven Planets At The End Of The Andalusian Scene by Mahmoud Darwish


Never Post is a production of Charts & Leisure

Looks Great!20 Nov 202400:55:45

Mike talks with Jon Greenaway, aka litcritguy, about the horror of online food videos; Georgia talks with Katie Notopoulos about why you can’t personalize your social profiles a la MySpace anymore; ALSO leaf crunches! 



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Intro Links

Food Gore

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Don't Panic07 Nov 202400:58:26
A Remembrance of Things Flash07 May 202500:54:16

Dr. Martin Shelton tells us what Signal is, and how end-to-end-encryption works. Then: was this show always going to devolve into a poetry reading? Probably. Finally: contributing producer Tori Dominquez Peek wonders what happened to the COUNTLESS FLASH GAMES of the early aughts. Also: Wildflowers!

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What Is Signal?

Are You There, Chat? It’s Me, Mike.

A Remembrance of Things Flash

Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. This episodes contributing producer was Tori Dominguez Peek. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta.

You are so opaque

to me your brief moments

of apparent transparency


seem fraudulent windows

in a Brutalist structure

everyone admires


The effort your life

requires exhausts me.

I am not kidding


Excerpt of They Were Not Kidding in the Fourteenth Century

by Maureen N McLane


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Post from the Field: Mike Goes to the Studio in the Rain06 Nov 202401:01:04

Episode coming later this week. For now: something meaningless.

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Mailbag #501 Nov 202401:12:01

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A Feed to Call One’s Own23 Oct 202400:50:22

Georgia talks with communications scholar and privacy researcher Alice Marwick about “Are We Dating the Same Guy?” groups, and how hard it is to keep private communities private. Contributing producer Noah Hertz files a story about the best, smallest social network you’ve never heard of. Also: MIKE DIES??? 🎃 👻


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Are We Dating the Same Guy?

David Social

Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta. 

when I first died, I stole a lock of your hair while you slept

Now I dip it in ink when the mood strikes

and the times you visit and kneel so pretty on the grass above me,

that’s not scratching you hear. It’s writing. 


except of Poem to Line My Casket with, Ramona, by Josh Bell


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Our Dearly Decommissioned09 Oct 202400:51:42

We visit the funeral for CrowdTangle, a social listening app that was used by disinformation and human rights researchers. Mike talks with Dallas Taylor, host of the podcast 20k Hertz, about why podcasts sound the way they do. And also: videogame menu music!


Intro Links

  • Brazil's top court says X paid pending fines to wrong bank – Reuters
  • Musk's X paid $5 million in fines to the wrong bank, Brazil's Supreme Court said - Business Insider
  • After weeks of drama, SF tech CEO gives workers $30,000 to quit – SFGate
  • 159 employees are leaving Automattic as CEO’s fight with WP Engine escalates – TechCrunch
  • How to Delete Your 23andme Data Amid the Company's Turmoil – MSN
  • California enacts laws to protect child influencers' financial security – NBC
  • DoNotPay has to pay $193K for falsely touting untested AI lawyer, FTC says – ArsTechnica 

CrowdTangle, We Barely Knew Thee

Why Do Podcasts Sound Like That, with Dallas Taylor

Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta. 

Having been taught by fools, how else could i have ended up but as I am? a man who panics at the sound of his own voice, a blusterer, afraid that within the five pointed maple leaf there lies another name he never knew; ready, always, to be found wrong. 


Excerpt of ON FIRE by Andrew Feld


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The State of Podcasting Roundtable, Oct. 202403 Oct 202400:55:40

Senior producer Hans Buetow leads a conversation with three makers and thinkers in the podcast space — Mia Lobel (Freelance Cafe, fmr. Pushkin Industries), Lauren Passell (Tink Media) and Ronald Young, Jr. (Weight For It). We perform a health check on the podcast industry, to see who it’s working for, and who not.


Links:

Find Our Guests:

Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta. 

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Where I'm At Right Now25 Sep 202400:53:26

Georgia talks to Cliff Lampe, Professor of Information at the UMich School of Information about how Find My has become indispensable technology of friendship in a hypergamified social-media landscape. Then, Hans talks with Dr. Brooke Erin Duffy, associate professor in the Department of Communication at Cornell University, about the need to be vulnerable as an influencer. And also: [REDACTED]


Intro Links

  • Elon Musk's X blinks in standoff with Brazil – Yahoo.com
  • Elon Musk’s X Backs Down in Brazil – NYT
  • Lionsgate Inks Deal With AI Firm to Mine Its Massive Film and TV Library – Hollywood Reporter
  • Runway Partners with Lionsgate – runwayml dot com
  • Three Mile Island to Host New Disaster in Exclusive Deal to Power Microsoft AI – Splinter.com
  • Microsoft deal would reopen Three Mile Island nuclear plant to power AI – WaPo
  • After CEO’s arrest, Telegram says it will now turn some bad actors’ data over to law enforcement – CNN

  • Read Oldster!
  • Find me on Something Rotten talking about Spec Ops: The Line
  • Jacob Geller’s Swordstream 2024 Announcement
  • Find me on Jay Springett’s Experience.Computer on Sept. 26th

Find My Friend Surveillance

Vulnerableposting

Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta. 

Now I promise the shriek that the pressure of days, the pressure of days will be weapon. We drive and we drive, we blare music, we go on. On the highway of our lost intentions, all sign

Flashing Eyes In Which My Hopes Rise11 Sep 202401:03:40

Mike talks with Know Your Meme Editor-in-Chief Don Caldwell about the prevalence and decline of the Laser Eyes Meme, and the ever shifting place of internet memes in presidential election season; the staff then talks about posts that baffle and confound us. And also: fair play.


Intro Links

  • EU top court ruling paves way for Apple to pay Ireland over €13bn in taxes – Irish Times
  •  Judge Rules $400 Million Algorithmic System Illegally Denied Thousands of People’s Medicaid Benefits – Gizmodo.com
  • Brazil Blocks Musk’s X After Company Refuses to Comply Amid Feud With Judge – Time
  • Elon Musk Has Backed Himself Into a Corner in Brazil – WIRED
  • What to know about Elon Musk’s ‘free speech’ feud with a Brazilian judge – AP
  • Who are Tim Pool, Benny Johnson, Dave Rubin? The 6 commentators linked to Tenet indictment – USA Today
  • Who Are Tim Pool And Benny Johnson? What To Know About The Six Right-Wing Commentators DOJ Alleges Were Funded By Russia. – Forbes
  • YouTube Deletes Tim Pool’s Embarrassing Kremlin-Backed Videos – Gizmodo
  • Media start-up from Benny Johnson, Tim Pool, and Dave Rubin was secret Russian influence campaign, indictment alleges – DailyDot
  • cohost to shut down at end of 2024 – cohost 

Laser Eyes

  • Laser Eyes – KYM
  • Dark Brandon – KYM
  • Dark Brandon Explained – KYM
  • Fell Out of a Coconut Tree – KYM
  • What Can Be, Unburdened By What Has Been – KYM

Find Don:

XOXO Fest Live28 Aug 202400:49:19

Georgia talks with marketing consultant Bryce Whitwam and takes us in and out and further in – maybe further in than any of us have ever wanted to go – to the TikTok shop; Mike talks with media studies professor Shannon Mattern about Drafts – writing while it is still in progress – and how it feels to POST them. Also: Audience participation!


Find the slides for this live performance on our website.

Intro Links

  • J.K. Rowling and Elon Musk Named in Cyberbullying Lawsuit Filed by Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif After Olympic Win (EXCLUSIVE) - Variety
  • “it was so nice when you were following legal advice to shut the fuck up” – death angel
  • Swifties for Trump? Not so fast-Taylor Swift fires back at Donald Trump's AI-generated endorsement – Marca
  • Fans Suspect Taylor Swift Just Subtly Addressed Donald Trump's AI Image Scandal in New Statement – parade.com
  • Donald Trump Shares Fake Taylor Swift Endorsement Using AI-Generated Images – Stereogum
  • Trump shares AI-generated images of Taylor Swift and her fans supporting him – NBC
  • anyway here's the story of how i worked with a cafe (isshiki matcha) to import the olympic village muffins for a popup in nyc… – @kelin_online

The Shop Zone

More of Bryce Whitwam:

Writing is Death

Find Shannon Mattern:

Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta. 

It’s slow writing

on re-admission of the abyss

so if this body is sleepy-tired

please walk around


Suddenly there’s nothing

in the laws of the alphabet

that breaks open revealing

what buoyancy am I.


Excerpt of Puberty of Puck, by Mark Hyatt


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#MemeingTheNews14 Aug 202400:54:34

Hans talks with Lia Haberman of the newsletter ICYMI about the ostensible death of the hashtag; Georgia talks with media scholar Whitney Phillips about catching breaking news via internet memes. Also: Hit Em!


Intro Links

  • Google has an illegal monopoly on search, judge rules. Here’s what’s next – MSN.com
  • Crooked Media, Producer of ‘Pod Save America,’ Reaches Deal With Union, Which Withdraws Claim Company Engaged in Union-Busting Tactics – Variety.com
  • After Walkout, Crooked Media Union Reaches Tentative Deal With ‘Pod Save America' Company – MSN.com
  • Spotify is full of AI music, and some say it’s ruining the platform – FastCo
  • Cartoon Network Website Shuts Down, Warner Bros. Discovery Kicks Visitors Over to Max – Variety.com
  • 5 Podcasts for the Constantly Online – NYT
  • XOXO 2024 Schedule!

#DeathoftheHashtag

Find Lia:

Meming the News, Newsing the Memes

Find Whitney:

Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta. 

The idea, the teacher said, was that there was a chaos

left in matter – a little bit of not-yet in everything that was –


so the poets became interested in fragments, interruptions–

the little bit of saying lit by the unsaid–


was it a way to stay alive, a way to keep hope,

leaving things unfinished?


as if in completing a sentence there was death–


– Excerpt of Ars Poetica (the idea) by Dana Levin<

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Roundtable: Is The Internet Driving You To The Brink?30 Apr 202500:59:23

Friends! A Very Special Never Post for you!

In this one, Georgia, Hans, Jason, and Mike discuss their screen time stats and habits and what it even means to be informed.

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  • Garbage Day - Did You Hear About The Protest This Weekend?

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To BRB Or Not To BRB31 Jul 202400:59:12

Contributing producer Victoria Dominguez attempts to understand the practice of digitally resurrecting deceased loved ones using artificial intelligence. Also: home movies.


Intro Links

BRB AI Links

Find Tori: 

Find Elreacy Dock:

Find Elizabeth Schandelmeier:

Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta. 

One winter, he held a rope, lowered me 

by the ankles to the wells bottom. 

I ascended upside-down through the dark thermometer 

with a blood orange in my teeth. He had a beard 

of new snow. I held cold to his pant leg 

while our dog left and snapped at a sound 

in the air only he could hear. When I fell 

in love, he reached out to me and held me down 

Life in Plastic, It's Fantastic17 Jul 202400:47:25

Mike chats with EX Research about their new report which goes deep on Roblox, the massively multiplayer online game played by HALF of all American teenagers. Georgia takes a look at Love Island UK – as many people have over the last few weeks – and asks why so much of that looking is preoccupied with plastic surgery. Also: the sound of touching grass.


Intro Links

Once Day, We’ll All Be In There

Love Island Face

Everything Old Embeds Again03 Jul 202400:58:10

Mike talks with unsung internet pillar DylanPDX, steward of vxTwitter and others, who single-handedly does what Big Social doesn’t want - keeping your embeds working. Senior producer Hans gets the ambrosia from Tallulah Trezevant, an antiquities scholar who ran an experiment to see how fast she would get flushed down the alt-right pipeline when expressing an interest in ancient history online. Also! Some of your favorite hidden corners of the internet.


Show Notes:

Intro Links

vxTwitter with Dylan

Find Dylan:

Antiquity to Alt-Right Pipeline, with Tallulah Trezevant

Find Tallulah:

Other Sources of hope in Antiquity:

Favorite Corners of the Internet

Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta. 

So much of any year is flammable,
lists of vegetables, partial poe

The Sound Files of Summer19 Jun 202400:45:56

An episode-long staff round-table about music library management with special guest Meghal Janardan. 

Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta. 

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Mailbag, Episodes 7-1014 Jun 202401:02:14

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LINKS!



Moss’ Email


​​Hi Never Post!


My name is Moss (she/her) and I am trans.


Your recent segment on before and after pics got me thinking about the particular variety of before and afters that are shared online in the trans community. I think that this became a lot more visible to me after being witness to the early chaos of unconstrained trans horniness and wild openness in the early formation of Bluesky last year, which is a whole fascinating bit of platform ecosystem history, especially seeing how much Bluesky has leveled out into something much more "presentable" and twitter-like now that it's operating at scale—but I digress.


On sites like Twitter and Bluesky (and surely elsewhere...) there is an established trend of trans beings (queer beings) sharing before and after pictures of themselves. These are occasioned by trans holidays, like Transgender Day of Visibility, by personal events like transition anniversaries, and by quote chains of such pics (not to mention special occasions of steps taken towards transition). I think it's important to mention these not only as a queer phenomenon, but as something that illuminates how before and afters work for everyone in a variety of situations (as is the case with many things related to transness—it's not [only] about being trans: it's about living more freely). The trans case highlights a few aspects that I want to explore here:


1) The pics, by virtue of being in a trans discourse, would seem to point to something deeper about how life is structured—an identity, a gender—rather than merely an aspect of life—weight, appearance, dwelling, &c.—not of course that identity and gender are not merely aspects of life nor that what seem to be mere aspects are not structuring, but thinking about the weight these are given culturally. What does it mean to see one photo and then another and think, and be encouraged to think by the poster, to see the second as more in line with their gender, as "more woman," "more animal," "more thing," "more man," "more..."? But perhaps above all "MORE THEMSELF." I think we can reasonably be quite ambivalent about this: as your segment points out, the after of the before and after is actually a changing state, and that perhaps it's harmful to over-fix (and that it might fix norms that should be taken as fluid and contextual), but, on the other hand, the fixing function of the before and after photo may be precisely the point for the trans poster—a trans performance to reinforce self. We might further ask, what is visible and what is invisible about transition—does the before and after pic over-reinforce the visible (and how does it then interact with the endless discourse of "passing")? There is also of course a great potential for rupture with norms with queer people—the after often completely rejects standard norms (but then is it rejection or creation...? and so on and so on and so on).


2) The before pic is possibly quite contentious for trans beings, when it is understood to be a pre-transition pic (and not say, both before and after being after the start of transition). This is because

Who Hires the Hiring Bots?05 Jun 202400:50:03

Georgia chats with Emmy Award-winning investigative reporter Hilke Schellmann about the job market, and the increasing prevalence of Artificial Intelligence in hiring. Mike talks with comedian, writer and podcast host Jamie Loftus about her show Sixteenth Minute (of Fame), and the curse of becoming an Internet Main Character. Also! Every YouTube video the team watched in the last two weeks.


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Looking For Love In All The Wrong Places22 May 202400:56:06

Georgia digs deep into the enshittification of dating apps, and pays dearly as a result. Mike talks to Aftermath co-founder Luke Plunkett about recent, massive changes to Google’s Page Rank algorithm, and the risk of reconfiguring entire industries to pander to search traffic. And also: An AI Voice Clone of Mike is set to *maximum chaos*. 


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Everyone is a Journalish11 May 202400:58:54

The second and final installment of our two part collab with Slate’s ICYMI! Mike talks with mis- and disinformation researcher Joan Donovan about the line between gossip and conspiracy; then ICYMI’s Candice and Rachelle join us to talk about what it feels like swimming in the wide open sea of monocultural event discourse. Also: C-SPAN’s earliest internet memories!


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vertigo of too many nuances

don’t drown in their rapidity

choose the nuances you love

and settle down with them


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ICYMI x NP: How Kate Middleton's Disappearance Redefined Monoculture08 May 202400:51:07

This week, we got TWO episodes coming at you - one today and one on Saturday. Both are a collaboration with the incredible team at the Slate Podcast ICYMI.

In today's episode, the first of our collaboration, Mike guests on ICYMI, where they break down one of 2024’s biggest internet stories and ask: what's the recipe for a rare monocultural event?

It's been more than a month since Kate Middleton announced she'd started preventative chemotherapy treatments following a cancer diagnosis. Which means it's also been just over a month since conspiracy theories about the princess ran rampant across the internet. As an increasingly algorithmic internet silos us further into our own little content niches, all-consuming events like Kate Middleton's disappearance are fewer and far between. So what does it take, in 2024, to capture the internet's attention and create these rare monocultural moments?

ICYMI is produced by Se'era Spragley Ricks, Daisy Rosario, Candice Lim and Rachelle Hampton.

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Car Tok26 Apr 202400:55:03

Senior producer Hans Buetow investigates the transit vacuum that’ll result when Uber and Lyft leave the Twin Cities; Mike looks at how the car has become a default setting for vertical, short form video. Also: PLANES, TRAINS… BIKES


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Smooth Moves23 Apr 202500:57:04

Jason talks with Hannah Pivo about charts, graphs, truth and proof; Georgia talks with Julian Chokkattu about where all the buttons went. And also: DATA CENTERS

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The aim of constructive uncertainty

lies in the corner between two windows. Such that

we, welcoming the indistinct, unlocks the door

because it likes the sound.

We abstracts the whistled body

of the world. The hazards of this opposition

become clear: the ear listens to what

becomes it, the blood flowing through it.


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It’s easier to read the mind of a fox than to guess   

what a man’s about to say when he returns   

from the woods         head full of roots         veins   

more like branches         shoes in one hand         feet   

blistered         and none of this necessarily   

an indication of how the feet feel         what miles   

uphill and back have done to the soles   

and to the small bones that propel a man


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Mailbag, Episodes 4-617 Apr 202400:53:40

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Switched on Post10 Apr 202400:54:44

Contributing Producer Marie Kilaru discusses the emotional impacts of making and seeing Before and After posts; Charlie Harding of Switched on Pop joins Jason to talk about what pop-musical acts have sounded like the internet. Also: Georgia reads Franny Choi’s “Unrequited Lovesong for the Panopticon”

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After the accident we had

the phrase after the accident.


Also this: before the accident.

We had a drawer marked


before and after, and after

and before happenings


we'd add atrocities and

incidents and the wild


asters someone before

and after keeps leaving.


After By Andre

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Georgia and guest producer Luis wonder why there is so much audio online that seems to sound bad on purpose; Mike talks to Gabriele de Seta and Paolo Berti about how the “megadungeon” is a productive model for understanding the internet. Also: posts from the field!

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As Per My Last Podcast Episode…13 Mar 202400:56:00

Hans wonders why ‘being informed’ is so exhausting, and if there’s anything he can do about it (short answer: sorta) and a few members of the Never Post team discuss “important emails”. Also: the hunt for Diet Caffeine Free Dr. Pepper continues.

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Mailbag, Episodes 1-308 Mar 202401:05:48

We respond to listener comments about independent media co-ops, the disappearance of tween fashion, posting disease, influencer voice, mourning online, and human height throughout history.
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Nick's thoughts on "Never Post" and the internet:

1. One interpretation of ""Never Post"" is that it's like the internet version of the taoist wei wu wei which translates to something like ""do by not doing" and reminds us how often trying to accomplish something makes us less likely to succeed. You install a Ring camera for safety and now you're always paranoid. You complement someone for saying something smart and they stop speaking because they're afraid of sounding dumb.

The historian/political scientist/anarchist James Scott borrows the term "iatrogenic" from medicine to describe how many of societies' attempts to control rivers (e.g., levees) only cause the rivers to become more unruly.

Iatrogenic illnesses are ailments caused by medicine or medical care. Iatrogenic systems are ferociously hardy because simple attempts to solve them just feed them. You can think of the capitalist work ethic where the only way (besides inheritance) to secure a life of financial independence outside of capitalist pressures is to dive head first into the capitalist waters and work hard at a lucrative job for a long time (see adherents of the FIRE movement).

Social media seems like a classic iatrogenic system. You dunk or subtweet an egregious post and it makes the poster post more. The truly skilled poster posts by not posting. Never posts. Learning not to repost bad posts is a major spiritual milestone for the internet citizen.

2. An irony is that if the best way to steward the internet is to never post, doesn't the internet disappear under ideal stewardship? Derrida's "Structure, Sign, and Play in the Discourse of the Human Sciences" tries to solve a related problem in postmodern discourse. The problem is, every deconstruction, no matter how profound, rests on some logical/linguistic "center" that itself is not real or stable. So every deconstruction can itself be deconstructed and you just have infinite regress. If postmodernists know this, what's even the point of writing for each other any more?

Derrida's solution is freeplay which is about recognizing existience as full of other world with their own "centers" that are yet all connected. A mistake is anchoring yourself to any of those single centers. Freeplay is hopping worlds with "the joyous affirmation of the play of the world and of the innocence of becoming, the affirmation of a world of signs without fault, without truth, and without origin which is offered to an active interpretation".

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Eternal Return28 Feb 202400:48:39

Georgia talks with Tamara Kneese about how the software of the platform internet works against the social flows of grieving, and mourning. Mike then talks about men who throw ping pong balls into solo cups. ALSO: chill, lo-fi, public domain beats.


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People in Places14 Feb 202400:56:51

Mike talks with sociophonologist Lisa B. Davidson about why influencer voice exists, and with bass player and YouTuber Adam Neely about the people who have been retiring from YouTube.

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I'm Mad, You're Mad, We're All Mad Here01 Feb 202400:49:17

On the disappearance of tween-specific fashion trends, and the epidemic of Posting Disease plaguing social media. Also: a man on a mission.

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Episode 0: Independent Media Roundtable31 Jan 202400:37:06

To kick things off, we had a roundtable conversation with a trio of makers and thinkers, all of whom are creating independent media. They are Gita Jackson (Aftermath), Alex Sujong Laughlin (Defector Media), and Rusty Foster (Today in Tabs).

We wanted to talk with Gita, Alex and Rusty about the current state of media, and why each of them has decided to strike out beyond the big, legacy media organizations and create something new.

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Any Rigid Idea About Yourself Is a Prison09 Apr 202501:01:58

Contributing producer Youngna Park looks at why people talk *like that* on LinkedIn. Mike talks with psychotherapist Kurt White about how the internet may help us become ourselves. ALSO: The people united will never be defeated.

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The Ultimate Platform of Capitalism

Youngna Park

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Brick by Brick

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Your business in this world

Your nakedness and terror


Your sanctity remains

the crucial battle


Dearly beyond

We are scattered here today


amongst commodities


This town isn’t big enough

for trust


Excerpt of The Concept of Dread by Pam Rehm

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The Hardest Thing To Do Is Nothing26 Mar 202501:09:03

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By the sparkle of certain ciliates, cesium

   practices its cricket song.

Am I supposed to be impressed? My smoothie

   comes with GPS.


Excerpt of We Have the Technology, by Michael Robbins

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