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It's the Return of the King! King of the Hill's second season (and 15th season overall) is here, so we finally discuss its miraculous resurrection from last year. How has the Hill family grown up? What has life had in store for our dear Bobby Hill? What the hell is Dale Gribble doing these days?

EPISODES DISCUSSED:
Season 14 Episode 1 - 'Return of the King'
Season 14 Episode 2 - 'The Beer Story'
Season 14 Episode 6 - 'Peggy's Fade-Out'
Season 14 Episode 9 - 'No Hanks Left Behind'

REAL WORDS RECS
Brooke: A BIG surprise!
Ryan: A RELATED surprise!

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CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains discussion of mental illness, suicide, dementia, and online harassment of a trans woman. Listener discretion is advised.

Brooke and Ryan dive into the surprising rise and complex conclusion of the indie animation super-hit The Amazing Digital Circus. How did this show catch fire? And why can't fans just be normal about it? Also, did we enjoy the show? Is Ryan the Jax of the podcast? Listen and find out!

WE FORGOT TO DO REAL WORLD RECS, WE'RE SORRY ABOUT THAT, WE RECOMMEND THE AMAZING DIGITAL CIRCUS AND BEING NORMAL ON THE INTERNET

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Just in time for the show's end, Ryan and Brooke tune into adult swim's latest adult animation darling, the anarchistic and internet-laced Smiling Friends! We talk animation style, changing senses of humor, the 00's internet, and whether it's better to burn out or fade-away, all while staying mostly on topic. You picked the BEST time to listen!

EPISODES DISCUSS:
S1 E6 - “Enchanted Forest”
S1 E 9 - “The Smiling Friends Go To Brazil!”
S2 E1 - “Gwimbly: Definitive Remastered Enhanced Extended Edition DX 4K (Anniversary Director's Cut)”
S3 E2 - “Le Voyage Incroyable de Monsieur Grenouille”

REAL WORLD RECS
Brooke: 'Red Comet: The Short Life and Blazing Art of Sylvia Plath' by Heather Clark

Ryan: Tasty Hand-Pulled Noodles II in Hell's Kitchen

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It's Brooke's birthday, so she gets to pick the movie! She summons up a forgotten mainstay from the VHS players of a bygone era, Don Bluth's Thumbelina. We confront our dubious memories of this childhood favorite, investigate the fascinatin history of the man who would be the Anti-Disney, and consider if, by some strange twist of fate, this movie is actually "good." What does "good" mean in this context? You'll have to listen and find out!

Real World Recs:
Brooke - "Every Brilliant Thing" by Duncan Macmillan on Broadway, starring Daniel Radcliffe
Ryan - The Spectacular Spider-Man on DVD (and the spectacular Debora Strang and David Kepner!)

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The minds behind Bojack Horseman and Tuca & Bertie are back on Netflix with their zaniest creation...an emotionally harrowing portrait of family across the years? And we're sure this is a comedy? Ok, if you say so! This week, we dive into Long Story Short, talk religion, family, time travel, and when we were our most interesting!

Episodes discussed:
Ep 4 - “Shira Can’t Cook”
Ep 6 - “Wolves”
Ep 7 - “Kendra’s Job”
Ep 9 - “Honoring Naomi Schwartz”

REAL WORLD RECS
Ryan - Marshmallow Peeps
Brooke - 'Heart the Lover' by Lily King

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It's Oscar Season once again, and you know what that means -- a ton of movies, both long and short. What are our favs? What has the best odds to win? What was going on this year? Do animated movies still have that magic?

FILMS WE WATCHED:

FEATURES:
Elio
Directed by Madeline Sharafian, Domee Shi, and Adrian Molina
Written by Julia Cho, Mark Hammer, and Mike Jones

KPop Demon Hunters
Co-written and directed by Maggie Kang and Chris Appelhans

Arco
Directed by Ugo Bienvenu
Written by ugo Bienvenu and Félix de Givry

Zootopia 2
Directed by Jared Bush and Byron Howard
Written by Jared Bush

Little Amélie or the Character of Rain
Directed by Maïlys Vallade and Liane-Cho Han
Written by Liane-Cho Han

SHORTS
Butterfly
Florence Miailhe and Ron Dyens

Forevergreen
Nathan Engelhardt and Jeremy Spears

The Girl Who Cried Pearls
Chris Lavis and Maciek Szczerbowski

Retirement Plan
John Kelly and Andrew Freedman

The Three Sisters
Konstantin Bronzit



REAL WORLD RECS:
Ryan - Pokopia for Nintendo Switch 2
Brooke - Mary O's Soda Bread in NYC

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We pull together the disparate parts that make a podcast and talk about Adult Swim’s alchemical new special, The Elephant! What is it? What makes it special? What kind of animation A-team put it together?
 
Then, we take a long look at what Disney might do to pull out of their creative slump, and how their past might indicate their future. The vengeful spirit of Walt still lingers!

ChelseaChats’ TikTok Video
 
REAL WORLD RECS
Ryan: A professional massage
Brooke: Niall Breen (@niall.breen.comics on Instagram)

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Get yourself a heaping plate of podcast! We talk about Delicious in Dungeon, the anime smash hit that has us going back for seconds. Will Brooke like this anime? What is the tastiest monster in the land? What video games do the best manga writers play? All these questions and more are on the menu in this week's Nation of Animation!

EPISODES DISCUSSED:
Ep 4 - “Stewed Cabbage/Orcs”
Ep 8 - "Raspberries / Grilled Meat"
Ep 12 - "Red Dragon II"
Ep 22 - “Griffin / Familiars”

REAL WORLD RECS
Brooke: Pupsicle Dog Toys
Ryan: Hobonichi Weekly Planners

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We’re in a New York state of mind! This week, we salute our favorite cartoon depictions of the great city of NYC, ranging from the mythic and the fantastical to the grounded and the grimy. What is the allure of this place, and what do people love to draw from it? What has it been like for us to live here? Take a big bite of this Big Apple and find out!

Link to Women In Animation Portfolio Review

REAL WORLD RECS
Brooke: Assassin’s Apprentice, by Robin Hobb
Ryan: The City We Became, by NK Jemisin

The State of Animation is New York! Get it? Because it’s a State!

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We've been adrift in a sea of holiday animation and washed up on a strange island...you'll find no stop-motion reindeer or magical snowmen here, no memorable singalongs or classic characters. You're on the Island of Misfit Toons! 

We plumb the depths of strange and forgotten holiday animation specials, and come up with three intriguing animations from yesteryear. Join us as we float up to the North Pole, an alien world, and a derelict orphanage to celebrate the holidays in new (and occasionally even entertaining) ways!

SHOWS WE DISCUSSED
O' Christmas Tree (1994, dir. Russ Harris & G Brian Reynolds)

Aliens First Christmas (1991, dir. Russ Harris & G Brian Reynolds)

Christmas Comes But Once A Year (1936, dir. Dave Fleischer and Seymour Kneitel)

And from our podcast to your [name of group], Happy Holidays! We'll see you in 2026!

REAL WORLD RECS:
Brooke: Last Holiday (2006, dir. Wayne Wang) 
Ryan: Kiss Kiss Bang Bang ( 2005, dir. Shane Black)

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It's the holiday season, and we're still feasting on the bounty of KPop Demon Hunters, the film that keeps on giving, and we've brought in two Huntrix superfans: Meggie Gates and Laura Petro of the YA, We Read It podcast! After double-digits of re-watches, what else does the film have to offer? Can anything stop its awards season momentum?

All this, plus Brooke taking on a heaping helping of animation news!

The state of animation is STRONG!

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AFTER TEN THOUSAND YEARS (or three months) AWAY, WE HAVE FINALLY RETURNED! Ryan and Brooke resume their destinies as podcasters and endeavor to cast a podcast-based spell of protection across the whole world, all while talking about the streaming sensation that’s sweeping all nations — KPOP DEMON HUNTERS! We talk about the music, the look, the fashion, and the undeniable fandom in our mighty return from hiatus! It’s good to be back!

REAL WORLD RECS
BROOKE: “Are You There God, It’s Me Margaret” on Netflix/ the New Jersey PATH train
RYAN: Di Fara pizza in Midwood, Brooklyn 

The state of animation is STRONG!

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This week, we cover the cartoon that Disney DOESN'T WANT YOU TO SEE! The unlisted, unstreamable, unmistakable hybrid workplace comedy/ clip show House of Mouse! We talk the legacy of the Disney Sensational Six, Clarabelle Cow, and that darn Mortimer Mouse! 

Episodes discussed:
Season 1 Episode 2, "Big Bad Wolf Daddy"
Season 2 Episode 12, "Ladies Night"
Season 3 Episode 19, "Clarabelle's Christmas List"
Season 3 Episode 22, "Pete's House of Villains"
 
Real World Recs
Brooke: Diet Cherry Coke
Ryan: Twilight (2008)

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The station of animation is...Maus!

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Ryan, Brooke, and professional actor/writer/friend of the pod Lilly Heidari crack open the history books AND the comic books as they read Marjane Satrapi's adaptation of her autobiographical graphic novel, Persepolis! We talk about history, the life of a person in the middle of historic events, the power of one's own culture, expatriation, and the bizarre fun of being assigned comic books in college. This one has it all!


FILMS DISCUSSED:
Persepolis (2007, dir. Marjane Satrapi & Vincent Paronnaud)
 
Real World Recs
Lilly: 'Look: Poems' by Solmaz Sharif
Brooke:Labubu dolls
Ryan: The Nintendo Switch 2 and Mario Kart World

Inside ‘Elio’s’ “Catastrophic” Path: America Ferrera’s Exit, Director Change and Erasure of Queer Themes

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The station of animation is Strong!




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Strap on that diapy and get that thumb out of your mouth! These babies have gotta do what a baby's gotta do, and in this case, these babies have got to talk about Rugrats! We break down the perspective of babyhood, the importance of life lessons, the drag of being all growed up, the majesty of Cynthia, and so much more!

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The station of animation is Babies!


EPISODES DISCUSSED:
Season 2 Episode 6A - “Regarding Stuie”
Season 2 Episode 13B - “What the Big People Do”
Season 2 Episode 20A - The Seven Voyages of Cynthia
Season 3 Episode 21A - Angelica’s Worst Nightmare”

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Real World Recs
Brooke: 'Everything You Ever Wanted,' by Luisa Sauma
Ryan: 'The Golden Toad: An Ecological Mystery and the Search for a Lost Species' by Kyle and Trevor Ritland

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This week on Nation of Animation we bring you some behind the scenes story time of the making of our Atlanta Fringe Audio special, 'The Indigo Twins.' If you haven’t had a chance to hear the last episode, it's the perfect week for a double feature! Plus animation news and your questions!

Listen to 'The Indigo Twins' here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-indigo-twins-by-nation-of-animation/id1465858298?i=1000709086940

And next episode: Finally, it's Baby Time.

If you like the show, don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe.

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Everyone who helped bring this project to life, and everyone who helped bring it to the public!

The State of Animation is Award Winning!

Episodes we talked about: 
E 84: The Murder Of Steamboat Willie

Real World Recs:

Brooke: BAYDOG Arctic Cooling Collar
Ryan: SINNERS, in theaters now

This podcast is a part of Audio Mint. If you want to follow us, check us out on Instagram(@audiomintchi) or on Facebook, at Audio Mint. If you wanna support us even more, check out our Patreon by searching Audio Mint on the app or the website!

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This week we talk about the classic 90s cartoon The Indigo Twins! It's all about the joy of being a twin, the simpler days of the early 90s, and the lovely power of fans and fandom. That's The Indigo Twins!


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Written and Directed by Ryan Stevens and Brooke-Erin Smith.
The voice of Danny was Makela Yepez
The voice of the Old Bean was Jordan Bowers
The voice of  the mysterious voicemail was William Quant
The voice of  LEGOLAS4EVER1998 was Clare Rollinger
The voice of  GrapeSoda17 was Lilly Heidari
The voice of  Mina was Laura Petro
The voice of Britt was Meggie Gates
The voice of  Nat was Jamie Boller
The voice of  Polly was Frederic Powers
Original music created by Ryan Stevens
Edited by Brooke-Erin Smith

This special was produced as part of Atlanta Fringe Audio.
Thanks for listening!

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A wise man once said, or rather screamed, "YOU! ARE! A TOY!" But here at Nation of Animation, we're not toys, we're podcasters! We're celebrating 3 decades of the legacy of Toy Story, and 3 decades of our very own Brooke-Erin Smith! Witness the film that put Pixar on the map, and how 30 years has shaped both our friends Buzz & Woody, and our dear darling Brooke. Cut yourself a slice of birthday cake and join in!

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The station of animation is Birthday!


FILMS DISCUSSED:
Toy Story (1995)

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Real World Recs
Brooke: Owala Water Bottles
Ryan: 'John Proctor Is The Villain' by Kimberly Belflower, on Broadway

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Hear that school bell ringing? Drop those textbooks and pick up a tetherball, it's time for RECESS! We talk about the joyful highs and shocking lows of Disney's sociopolitcal school simulation, talk about the charismatic power of Spinelli, pin down the politics of the Ashleys, and give our best pitches for Recess's version of modern political events! What a show, and what a podcast!

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The station of animation is Bob!

EPISODES DISCUSSED:
Season 1, Episode 13B - “Swing On Thru To the Other Side”
Season 1, Episode 7A - “First Name Ashley”
Season 4, Episode 16A - “Me No Know”
Season 3, Episode 1A - “One Stayed Clean”

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Real World Recs
Brooke: Substack, the blogging platform!
Ryan: Lucy Dacus' new album 'Forever Is A Feeling'

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It's time for March Madness, so break out your brackets and get your parlay ready! Ryan has asssembled a list of 16 eligible fellas from across all of anime, and we're gonna pit them against each other for Brooke's affection! Who will win it all? The answer may surprise you - it sure surprised us!

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The state of animation is STRONG!

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REAL WORLD RECS:
Brooke: Lobster bisque
Ryan: Assassin's Creed: Shadows, available on PC, PS5, and Xbox Series X/S

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100 EPISODES! THE MILESTONE IS HERE!
Ryan and Brooke celebrate their hundredth time on the mic by revealing their Top Ten animated seriess of all time! What do they have in common? What do they differ on? And what do some of our past guests have to say?

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Urvashi Lele
Samuel Traquina
Freddie Powers
Kelsea Woods
David Kepner
Rebecca Shrom
Clare Rolinger
Trevor E. Ritland
Makela Yepez
Laura Petro

The state of animation is STRONG! Always, always strong!

SHOWS WE DISCUSSED
Wouldn't you like to know? ;)

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Get your designer dresses and matching clutches ready for the red carpet! We’re talking about all of the Oscar nominated animated films and animated short films. We check this year’s trends, talk our favorites, and chart the proud rise of the beautiful republic of Latvia — all this and more on this week’s Nation of Animation!

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The station of animation is...we'll see! Tune into the Oscars on Sunday!

FILMS WE DISCUSSED
Short Films:
Magic Candies
In The Shadow of the Cypress
YUCK!
Wander to Wonder
Beautiful Men 

Feature Films: 
Wallace & Gromit: Vengeance Most Foul
Memoir of a Snail
Flow
The Wild Robot
Inside Out 2


REAL WORLD RECS:
Brooke: Trader Joes’ Mini Mint Ice Cream Mouthfuls
Ryan: Getting a tattoo

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Bust out the popcorn (and your most tear-stained handkerchiefs) for this one, folks! We talk about Hayao Miyazaki’s latest, final (?) film, the award winning The Boy And The Heron! Ryan also watched the documentary Hayao Miyazaki And The Heron, and offers some additional insights on how this film is the culmination of Miyazaki’s career, the filmography of Studio Ghibli, and a life spent in an ever-changing world. All that, and the movie itself is really dang pretty!

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The station of animation is [[Bird sounds]]

FILMS WE DISCUSSED
The Boy & The Heron
Hayao Miyazaki & The Heron

REAL WORLD RECS:
Brooke: Severance, on Apple TV +
Ryan: Alt National Park Service, on Bluesky

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Happy new year, listeners! We’re ringing in 2025 with some comfort food, namely Burgers — Bob’s Burgers! We look at our favorite episodes from the three most recent seasons, and see how far Bob and his family have come since they’re early days. It’s the perfect episodes for old fans and new ones, so get ready to chow down!

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The station of animation is Bob!

EPISODES DISCUSSED:
Season 13, Episode 18 - “Gift Card or Die Trying”
Season 13, Episode 19 - “Crab-solutely Fabulous”
Season 14, Episode 15 - “The Right Tough Stuff”
Season 15, Episode 9 - “Dog Christmas Day After Afternoon”
 
Real World Recs
Brooke: Trader Joe’s Cocoa Truffles
Ryan: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

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Marley was dead to begin with. Dead as a doornail. But Nation of Animation is alive and well this holiday season, and we're bringing you a happy haunting with three, count' em, THREE animated adaptations of Charles Dickens' timeless anti-capitalist classic, A Christmas Carol! We check in with our good friend Richard Williams, stop by the House of Mouse for Scrooge McDuck's opus, and then deal with the unfortunate Mr. Zemeckis' ill-fated Jim Carey-led boondoggle.

All this and a cooked goose, the biggest one they had! 

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Pod Bless Us, Every One!

Movies we mentioned:
A Christmas Carol (1971), directed by Richard Williams
Mickey's Christmas Carol (1983), directed by Burny Mattinson
A Christmas Carol (2009), directed by Robert Zemeckis

Real World Recs:
A Christmas Carol: The Musical (2004), directed by Arthur Allan Seidelman 

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Thanksgiving season means gorging on toons till we burst, and this year we’re piling our plate high with Dreamworks’ Kung Fu Panda series! What can this panda teach us about martial arts? About life? About…love? (Not much, on that last one.) We blitz through all four films, talk, and learn the mysterious ways of the Dao of Po!
 
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We love Kung Fuuuuuuuu!

Movies we mentioned:
Kung Fu Panda
Kung Fu Panda 2
Kung Fu Panda 3
 Kung Fu Panda 4

Real World Recs:
Brooke: Tavi Gevinson’s “Fan Fiction" 
Ryan: Kendrick Lamar’s GNX



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He lives in you, listener, and by “He,” we mean this podcast! Don’t think about it too hard. This week we talk about a beloved Disney classic…’s sequel: The Lion King II: Simba’s Pride! What is Romeo & Juliet like with lions? How does the music match up to the original? Why is the bad boy lion so hot?

PLUS! We check in on the  Over The Garden Wall 10th anniversary stop-motion special, and old friend Freddie Powers drops in to share his thoughts!

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The State of Animation is [ROAR]!
 
Films we talked about:
The Lion King II: Simba’s Pride
Over the Garden Wall 10th Anniversary Stop Motion Short 

Real World Recs:
Brooke: The Bright Sword, by Lev Grossman
Ryan: ‘Original Cast Album: Company’ on Criterion Channel and YouTube 

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Hop on top of the bear stack, listener! This week, we’re tuning in for a heaping helping of Cartoon Network’s under-appreciated gem, We Bare Bears! We talk about what it means to be “all-ages,” the comedy of character design, and what kind of bears we might be!

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Daniel Chong, and his hilarious, endearing creation! 

The station of animation is Bears!
 
Episodes We Discussed:
S1 E4 “Chloe” 
S1 E10 “Nom Nom” 
S2 E7 “Losing Ice” 
S2 E18 “Icy Nights” 
S3 E12 “Spa Day” 
S3 E29 “Charlie’s Halloween Thing” 
S4 E14 “More Everybody’sTube” 
S4 E22 “Adopted”
 
Real World Recs:
Brooke: Voting!
Ryan: Fred’s Meat & Bread, in Atlanta GA

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Trick-Or-Treat, dear listener! It’s Halloween, and this year we’re giving you not one, but TWO bite-sized halloween specials from yesteryear. First, a spooktacular animal adventure in ABC Weekend Special’s “Bunnicula, The Vampire Rabbit”! Then, there’s a sour-sweet blowing in Whoville, and that can only mean one thing: Halloween is Grinch Night! And we’re gonna talk about it!
 
This one has it all: age-appropriate scares, industrial accidents, unexpected memories, and glimpses into the commercials of the 70s and 80s! A short and sweet episode that will fill you up but won’t give you cavities!
 
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& a very special thanks to: James & Debora Howe for Bunnicula, and Dr. Seuss & Gerard Baldwin for Halloween Is Grinch Night!
 
REAL WORLD RECS:
Brooke: Trader Joe’s Petite Pumpkin Spice Cookies
Ryan: Videodrome Video Rental Store in Atlanta, GA
 
The State of Animation is HALLOWEEN!
 
CONGRATULATIONS DANNY! THE NATION IS PROUD OF YOU!!
 
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The long awaited episode is here! Strap in and turn your throwback machine on cause we’re gonna talk about the 1993 film ”The Thief and the Cobbler” (aka The Princess and the Cobbler aka Arabian Knight). We talk the legacy, longevity, and loss of the creation and releases of this film. If you don’t like what we have to say, there’s the door!

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Richard Williams; an artist with a vision that didn’t quite get to reach the finish line.

The State of Animation is dreams!

Films we talk about:
The Thief and the Cobbler

Real World Recs:
Brooke: Below Deck Mediterranean (on Peacock)
Ryan: Shoresy (on Hulu)

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School is back in session and we still got a lot to learn! We have an interview with animator and current Head of the School for Animation & VFX at Vancouver Film School Colin Giles! We talk inspirations, unsung heroes, and of course cartoons! Not afraid to say this one is a banger!

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The State of Animation is Strong!

Colin’s TED talk:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihUJfS7bzqE

Real World Recs:

Brooke: The Cult of the Lamb (the video game)
Ryan: Curious City (the podcast)

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Every 4 years we gather around our screens to watch the best athletes in the world compete to bring home the gold, now we’re bringing the world of animated sports to you! This week we’re diving into the Anime-lympics! All your favorite sports are readily available year round with tropes, storylines, and our recommendations! Light the torches!

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Link to tickets to Busted Open!
https://limelight.tix.page/e/busted-open1719457916520

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Sports! 

The State of Animation is Sport! Olympic? Which do you prefer?

Animes we talked about:
Volleyball - Haikyu!!
Golf - Birdie Wing
Swimming - Free! - Iwatobi Swim Club 
Archery - Tsurune

Real World Recs:

Brooke: Fields of Mistria (Beta is currently open)
Ryan: Harney & Sons Zodiac inspired tea collection

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This week, Ryan and Brooke are booming with joy to talk about Netflix’ Exploding Kittens, and learn about the world of soundtrack composition and scoring from composers Jina An and Shirley Song! Jina and Shirley share their process, how they adapted a fast and frenzied party game into an animated series, dream projects and more!
 
And, a surprising new temptation might threaten to capture Brooke’s heart and possibly ruin her life, if we can turn it into content. Find out more by listening!
 
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Learn more about Shirley Song at her website: https://www.shirleysong.com/
 
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& a very special thanks to: Jina An and Shirley Song for talking to us!
 
The State of Animation is EXPLODING!
 
Shows we talked about: Exploding Kittens
 
Real World Recs: Brooke: Barry, streaming on
Max Ryan: M. Night Shyamalan’s Trap
 
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This week we’re talking about just a regular movie. Correction, after further investigation we’re talking about the 1995 cult classic, A Goofy Movie! We talk about who’s side we’re on, the muse that this film is, and an EXTREMELY goofy sequel! Also we got ya news here!

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Kevin Lima! Thanks for bringing us this underappreciated masterpiece!

The State of Animation is GAWRSH!

Films we talked about:
A GOOFY Movie

Real World Recs:
Brooke: SPF 50 Sunscreen!
Ryan: The Coca-cola company, and it’s ice cold products!

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We’ve returned from our sojourn into space, listener, and we have seen things you wouldn’t believe! This week, we talk recent sci-fi masterpiece Scavengers Reign! What streaming service owns it? What makes its alien planet feel truly alien? How do we ascribe meaning in a world that doesn’t know we’re there? What is Ryan suddenly allergic to? Find out the answers to all these questions and more!

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Joseph Bennett and Charles Huettner for sharing their beautiful, twisted creation!

The State of Animation is - Levi! Our savior!

Episodes we talked about:
Episode 5, “The Demeter” - 17:22
Episode 6, “The Fall"- 30:04
Episode 9, “The Mountain” - 40:20
Episode 10, “The Decision” - 51:03

Real World Recs:
Brooke: Great Value Sausage, Egg & Cheese croissants from Walmart (though not specifically buying them, if you get what we mean)
Ryan: The Sopranos, streaming on Max

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This week on NATION of Animation we bring you some behind the scenes story time of the making of The Murder of Steamboat Willie. If you haven’t had a chance to hear the last episode, it's the perfect week for a double feature! Plus animation news and a sneak peek at what to expect next episode!

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a very special thanks to:
Everyone who helped bring this project to life, and everyone who helped bring it to the public!

The State of Animation is Award Winning!

Episodes we talked about: 
E 84: The Murder Of Steamboat Willie

Real World Recs:

Brooke: The Rachel Incident: A Novel by Caroline O'Donoghue
Ryan: I SAW THE TV GLOW in select theaters now

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Nation of Animation Presents:

Steamboat Willie, the iconic cartoon that launched Disney’s empire, has entered the public domain. He’s also been MURDERED! Ryan and Brooke, lifelong cartoon fans with unfulfilling day jobs, take it upon themselves to solve this unsolvable case of mouseslaughter – and their investigation will take them into a sordid, strange world of two-dimensional two-timing, cartoonish corruption, and monochrome mystery.They’ll encounter public domain figures with a potential axe to grind with Steamboat Willie, from Captain Pete to Tigger to the mythical Hercules himself. What happens to a character when they enter the public domain? What does it mean to be an intellectual property? And how could any of this be worth killing someone over? The answers may shake Ryan and Brooke’s faith in cartoons, authorship, and the public domain itself.

The Murder of Steamboat Willie is a Nation of Animation production, and is not produced, endorsed, licensed, or approved by the Walt Disney Corporation. All established characters depicted therein are in the public domain.

Written and Directed by Ryan Stevens and Brooke-Erin Smith.
Produced by Danny Mendoza
Ryan and “Mike” were played by Ryan Stevens
Brooke was played by Brooke-Erin Smith
Newscaster was played by Madison Hill
Captain Pete was played by Makela Yepez
Tigger was played by Freddie Powers
Disney Lawyer was played Kelsea Woods
Pinnocchio was played by John Floyd
Peter Pan was played by Clare Rollinger
Hercules was played by David Kepner
Additional voices for the Disney adults were provided by Jordan “Old Bean” Smith-Bowers and Hayden Bowers

Original music composed by Mitch McAndrew. You can find his work on bandcamp and Spotify as Dogcatcher.

Original art by Urvashi Lele.

Additional music and sounds include
“Dances and Dames” by Kevin Macleod licensed under a Creative Commons attribution license and sourced from http://FreeMusicArchive.org.

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Ah-ah-nimation, Nation of Animation! We are back this week and we hope you brought your lantern and pet dragons because we return to the dark ages as we revisit Dave the Barbarian! Does anyone remember this show, did they focus too much on the barbarian angle, why was this show so funny? Also, listen till the end for a little secret sneak peek of what we’ve been working on!

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Doug Langdale, thank you for bringing this unique experience to our tvs! 

The State of Animation is strong like Dave!

Episodes we talked about: 
E11: Girlfriend/ Ned Frischman: Man of Tomorrow
E8a: Band
E21b: Happy Glasses

Real World Recs:

Brooke: The Neapolitan Novels
Ryan: The Sympathizer on Max

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Hallelujah, we’re back! This week we talk about something that has the animation world and Disney fans celebrating: the leaked storybibles! We talk about origins, our favorites, and ask the big questions, like, what’s a story bible again? 

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& a very special thanks to:

People who help lost media be found! 

The State of Animation is Biblical!

Storybibles we talked about we talked about: 
101 Dalmatian Street
(The Buzz On) Maggie
Gravity Falls “Nutshell” “Series Bible”
Brandy and Mr. Whiskers
Real World Recs:

Brooke: Challengers in theaters now
Ryan: euphoria by Kendrick Lamar

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This week we’re getting rad, twisted and extreme as we shred the waves of nostalgia with the power of Rocket Power! We talk about rad outfits, feminism, and conspiracy theories! Paramount plus, hit us up or fix your U.I.

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Klasky Csupo, again! Thanks for inviting us on these rad adventures and all the other stories produced through our childhood!

The State of Animation is Gnarly!

Episodes we talked about: 
S1E6b Father's Day Off
S1E7a Powergirl Surfers
S1E19a Big Air Dare
S2E18a Hurricane Maurice

Real World Recs:

Brooke: The Other Two on Max
Ryan: Under the Bridge on Hulu

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Badabababa, we’re watching it! This week we delve into the lost promotional media “The Wacky Adventures of Ronald McDonald”! We’re talking about how wacky these adventures are, what the point of these promo episodes could possibly be, and Grimace’s culture! Also we’re creating worlds!

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Klasky Csupo! Thanks for inviting us on these wacky adventures and all the other adventures produced through our childhood!

The State of Animation is wacky!

Episodes we talked about: 

The Legend of Grimace Island
The Monster O' McDonaldland Loch

Real World Recs:
Brooke: Babel by R.F. Kuang
Ryan: Are you Afraid of the Dark Universe? The Podcast

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And now for something completely different! This week on Nation of Animation we are talking about the totally indie animated feature; Barber Westchester! This feature is such a treat we don't want to spoil anything because you can experience it yourself, cause it’s on YouTube! Check out the link below and you know we got that news!
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Lilac for emailing us about this 
&
Jonni Peppers; for introducing us to Barbara, letting us know about the truth, and the Blimp fact!
&
All the Guest Artist: Emily Martinez (Planet video) Victoria Vincent (Lucky and Dorbee TV show) Benni Quintero (Beast beyond the dome) Ian Worthington (Mr. Whale TV show) Chris Kim (Silver’s advice) Yasmeen Abedifard (Bene’s advice) Mel Murakawa-White (Gerard’s advice) Frankie Tamaru (Margaret’s advice) Kelly Ficarra (Prof Lemmings’ song) Tyrell Solomon (Church paintings) Zaria Bohanon (Crowd character designs during the projection room scene) Additional character animation by Maddie Brewer, Sidney Gale, Franky Wish and Benni Quintero

The State of Animation is idependent!

Check out Barbara Westchester!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf46FELFk2g

Real World Recs:
Brooke: Star Crossed by Kasey Muskgraves
Ryan: Blank City, Nowhere

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They’re baaaack! This week we’re talking about the recently revived Clone High, but we’re talking about the original 2002 run! Did it age well? Do we still enjoy it? Will anything bad ever happen to the Kennedy’s? Only one way to find out! Also Animation News!

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Phil Lord, Chris Miller, and Bill Lawrence for bringing back these historical figures for some very special episodes.

The State of Animation is Clone!

Series we talked about:
Clone High (Season 1)

Episodes We Talked About
S1 E3: A.D.D.: The Last 'D' is for Disorder
S1 E5: Sleep of Faith: La Rue D'Awakening
S1 E9: Raisin the Stakes: A Rock Opera in Three Acts
S1 E10: Litter Kills: Litterally

Real World Recs:

Brooke: The Traitors on Peacock
Ryan: Regency Solitaire II on Steam

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Happy Birthday Ryan! How better to honor ½ our iconic hosts with possibly one of the most iconic animated series of all time; Batman: The Animated Series! We’re joined by two incredibly special guests; Kyle & Trevor! Only respect for the Late Great Kevin Conroy. We are vengeance! We are the night!

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Kyle and Trevor E. Ritland!
Follow their work at www.adventureterm.com

&

Bruce Timm, Paul Dini, Mitch Brian, Bill Finger, Bob Kane and most importantly the late great Kevin Conroy for introducing the best iteration of the World of Batman.
The State of Animation is Bat (the night)!

Series we talked about:
Batman: The Animated Series
The New Adventures of Batman and Robin

Episodes We Talked About (ACCORDING TO PRODUCTION ORDER)
S1 E22: Joker’s Favor
S1 E29: Eternal Youth
S1 E30: Perchance to Dream
S1 E40: If You're So Smart, Why Aren't You Rich?

Real World Recs:

Brooke: refreshing Cherry Coke

Ryan: Alon’s Barkery and Deli in Atlanta Georgia

Trevor: Walking Distances that are slightly too far in snow that is slightly too much

Kyle: Watership Down (1978)

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Welcome to the podcast, where you can be yourself! This week on Nation of Animation we’re talking about the new Netflix show; Pokémon Concierge! We talk PokéHistory, PokéPlots, and PokéOscar Nominations! Pika-Pika!

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& a very special thanks of the week to:
Pokémon! Thanks for the years of entertainment!

The State of Animation is Pika-Pi!

Series we talked about:
Pokémon Concierge

Real World Recs:

Brooke: All of Us Strangers
Ryan: Duran Duran’s 2021 Future Past

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Happy 2024! And Happy 3rd anniversary of Nation of Animation! It’s the new year and we’re talking about a (relatively) new show Carol & the End of the World! We talk about our place in the pre-apocalyptic world, the comfort in routine, and Applebees! The end is nigh!

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Dan Guterman for showing us a glimpse into the pre-apocalyptic comfort that is the ever nearing future!

The State of Animation is Apocalyptic!

Series we talked about: Carol & the End of the World
Episodes:
E4: Sisters
E5: David
E8: The Life & Times of Bashiir Hassan
E10: The Investigation

Real World Recs:
Brooke: Story of Seasons: A Wonderful Life

Ryan: The Iron Claw starring Zac Efron! (And the Von Erich episode of Dark side of the Ring)

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We’re fully into the holiday season so we’re talking about a Nation of Animation holiday classic, Annabelle’s Wish! Does anyone else remember this movie? We also talk about some classic Christmas commercials, the power of speech, and a few of our favorite things! Ho Ho Ho!

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BIG THANKS TO:
Jacob Menke for our theme
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Urvashi Lele for our art Learn more about Urvashi Lele's animations by visiting http://www.sirpeagreenstudios.com and follow their endeavors on instagram at @sirpeagreen and @maisonaudmi

& a very special thanks of the week to:

Ralph Edwards Films and Dan Henderson for bringing this magical little cow and her wish to our screens

The State of Animation is Interrupting Cow who?!

Films we talked about:
Annabelle’s Wish


Real World Recs:

Best TV Show:
The Bear, streaming on Hulu
Scavenger’s Reign, streaming on Max
Poker Face, streaming on Peacock
What We Do In The Shadows, streaming on Hulu
Jury Duty, streaming on Freevee

Movies:
Asteroid City
Barbie

Books:
Emily Wilde’s Encyclopedia of Faeries, by Heather Fawcett
Chain-Gang All Stars, by Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah

Games:
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

This podcast is a part of Audio Mint. If you want to follow us, check us out on Instagram(@audiomintchi) or on Facebook, at Audio Mint. If you wanna support us even more, check out our Patreon by searching Audio Mint on the app or the website!

Follow our bluesky @nationofanimation, our Letterboxd @NationAnimation, and our Instagram and @cartoonbookclub, and follow our hosts
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and 
@ryanwithcheese on Twitter  
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&
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BIG THANKS TO: Jacob Menke for our theme
Follow them @menkemaster
&
Urvashi Lele for our art
Learn more about Urvashi Lele's animations by visiting http://www.sirpeagreenstudios.com and follow their endeavors on instagram at @sirpeagreen and @maisonaudmi

Feels good to be back to the regular format! And this week we are talking about the Netflix Series Hilda! We talk about trolls, magic, and the magical world of Europe! Also Animation News!

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BIG THANKS TO:

Jacob Menke for our theme

Follow them @menkemaster
&
Urvashi Lele for our art Learn more about Urvashi Lele's animations by visiting http://www.sirpeagreenstudios.com and follow their endeavors on instagram at @sirpeagreen and @maisonaudmi

& a very special thanks of the week to:

Luke Pearson and Silvergate Media for bringing us on a trip to Trolberg and introducing us to Hilda and her friends and family!

The State of Animation is Strong!!

Episodes we talked about
S1 E8; Chapter 8: The Tide Mice
S1E11; Chapter 11: The House in the Woods
S2E6; Chapter 6: The Old Bells of Trolberg
S2E8; Chapter 8: The Fifty Year Night

Real World Recs:
Brooke: Greenies Pill Pockets

Ryan: Perry Mason on Max

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Follow our bluesky @nationofanimation, our Letterboxd @NationAnimation, and our Instagram and @cartoonbookclub, and follow our hosts
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&
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BIG THANKS TO: Jacob Menke for our theme
Follow them @menkemaster
&
Urvashi Lele for our art
Learn more about Urvashi Lele's animations by visiting http://www.sirpeagreenstudios.com and follow their endeavors on instagram at @sirpeagreen and @maisonaudmi

We are back and coming in hot! It’s the Thanksgiving season here in the U.S. which means it’s time to be thankful and this week (and every week) we are thankful for the Shrek Franchise! Has it always looked like this? Are the sequels better to the original? Is it all ogre now? Let us know what franchise we should do next year!

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BIG THANKS TO:
Jacob Menke for our theme
Follow them @menkemaster
&
Urvashi Lele for our art Learn more about Urvashi Lele's animations by visiting http://www.sirpeagreenstudios.com and follow their endeavors on instagram at @sirpeagreen and @maisonaudmi
& a very special thanks of the week to:

William Steig and Dreamworks Animation! Thanks for inviting us to the swamp to meet this Ogre and his pals!

The State of Animation is Shrek!

Movies we mentioned:
Shrek
Shrek 2
Shrek the Third
Shrek Forever After
Puss in Boots
Puss in Boots: The Last Wish

Real World Recs:
Brooke: Bleu Cheese and Pecan dip from Trader Joe’s!

Ryan: The Podcast: Blowback (season 4 just started!)

This podcast is a part of Audio Mint. If you want to follow us, check us out on Instagram(@audiomintchi) or on Facebook, at Audio Mint. If you wanna support us even more, check out our Patreon by searching Audio Mint on the app or the website!a

Follow our bluesky @nationofanimation, our Letterboxd @NationAnimation, and our Instagram and @cartoonbookclub, and follow our hosts
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@ryanwithcheese on Twitter  
http://brookeerinsmith.com http://ryangstevens.com
&
Support secret projects on Venmo @nationofanimation

BIG THANKS TO: Jacob Menke for our theme
Follow them @menkemaster
&
Urvashi Lele for our art
Learn more about Urvashi Lele's animations by visiting http://www.sirpeagreenstudios.com and follow their endeavors on instagram at @sirpeagreen and @maisonaudmi

Solidarity Forever! The workers of SAG-AFTRA have emerged victorious from their historic strike, and we’re breaking the emergency glass to talk to you about the news! We talk everything you missed, changes in the animation world, and so much more, maybe even in song! Probably not, but maybe a little bit!

Where to see all of our strike coverage guests:

David Kepner:
Short films: Whip Lord and Georgeanne.MOV
The Others podcast series

Rachel Stubington:
Shrinking - Apple TV Plus
Generation - Max
The First Taste - short film, available on vimeo and youtube
A Rose for Her Grave: The Randy Roth movie (Lifetime)

Jihan Crowther:
The Man In The High Castle - Prime Video
The Underground Railroad - Prime Video
Daisy Jones and the Six - Prime Video
Class of ‘09 - HULU

Amber Li:
It Girls (webseries)
English dub for Elite on Netflix

Makela Yepez:
Manifest - Netflix

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BIG THANKS TO:

Jacob Menke for our theme
Follow them @menkemaster

& Urvashi Lele for our art
Learn more about Urvashi Lele's animations by visiting http://www.sirpeagreenstudios.com and follow their endeavors on instagram at @sirpeagreen and @maisonaudmi


& a very special thanks of the week to:

Those who stand in solidarity with the strike!
The State of Animation is UNION STRONG!
Where can I learn more about this:https://www.sagaftrastrike.org/podcaster-faqs


Real World Recs:
Brooke: Birth (2004), directed by Jonathan Glazer

Ryan: Dicks: The Musical (2023), directed by Larry Charles


This podcast is a part of Audio Mint. If you want to follow us, check us out on Instagram(@audiomintchi) or on Facebook, at Audio Mint. If you wanna support us even more, check out our Patreon by searching Audio Mint on the app or the website!

Follow our bluesky @nationofanimation, our Letterboxd @NationAnimation, and our Instagram and @cartoonbookclub, and follow our hosts
@thebrookesmith
and 
@ryanwithcheese on Twitter  
http://brookeerinsmith.com http://ryangstevens.com
&
Support secret projects on Venmo @nationofanimation

BIG THANKS TO: Jacob Menke for our theme
Follow them @menkemaster
&
Urvashi Lele for our art
Learn more about Urvashi Lele's animations by visiting http://www.sirpeagreenstudios.com and follow their endeavors on instagram at @sirpeagreen and @maisonaudmi