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Napkin Math

Charlie & Sabba

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Frequency: 1 episode/13d. Total Eps: 32

Join Sabba Keynejad (co-founder of VEED.io) and Charlie Ward (founder of Ramen Club, Ramen Space & Cosy) as they dive deep into the world of startups, AI, and the latest tech trends. These two legends of the London indie scene bring their no-nonsense, real-world insights to help founders, builders, and indie hackers navigate the highs and lows of entrepreneurship. Expect candid conversations, actionable takeaways, and the occasional hot take on where the future of business is headed. Whether you're bootstrapping your way to success or scaling your next big idea, Napkin Math is your go-to podcast for unfiltered discussions on what it really takes to win in the startup game.

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Opportunities in the running space, how to stick to ideas and Dracula's castle

Episode 9

Tuesday, May 20, 2025 • Duration 58:05

Charlie is back from Dracula's castle and Sabba is back from running a marathon. They are both arriving inspired. They do some Napkin Math on the economics of the running industry and the opportunities there, and how long it will be before they can pump out daily Dracula movies.

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00:00 Intro
04:00 Marathon running breakdown and opportunties
12:35 Runna acquisition Napkin Math
25:18 Building interesting things vs networking
28:31 How to stick to ideas
40:08 How long before we can make feature length AI films
54:32 Ramen Club launch party

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Why you aren't working hard enough, big podcast update and a hack for creating luck

Episode 8

Tuesday, May 6, 2025 • Duration 58:04

After 7 beautiful episodes, the MRR show is dead. But fear not, Napkin Math is born from its ashes. Sabba and Charlie discuss the performance of the show, dig into where Sabba invests his angel money, do a business breakdown (some actual napkin math) before going on a tirade on founders why founders aren't working hard enough...

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00:00 Intro
00:23 New podcast name
05:27 Podcast growth numbers
16:22 Listener Labs napkin math
23:49 Sabba's angel investing strategy
28:03 Sabba's lunch hack
36:23 How hard do founders need to work?
46:50 Long term vs short term revenue

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AI image generation opportunities, how to make an entertaining video and are trade shows worth it for VEED?

Episode 7

Tuesday, April 29, 2025 • Duration 49:46

Sabba is tired after being at a trade show all week for VEED, but was it worth it? Sabba and Charlie discuss the cost and results. But there's nothing better than a pick me up recording with BBQ crisp-eating Charlie Ward, who finally has some MRR for his SaaS app. The chaps talk all things AI, opportunities, SaaS drama and more.

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00:00 Intro
01:20 How much does a SaaS trade show cost?
05:56 What makes an entertaining video according to VEED
09:32 Rippling vs Deel drama update
11:29 AI image generation opportunities
16:24 Sabba gets upset
19:30 Cool opportunities in the AI image generation space
22:13 AI products to help user research
28:35 Other AI ideas
32:08 Will we get AI fatigue?
33:01 Scam call curiosity
35:34 Loveable 2.0 release
43:41 Charlie has some MRR
46:33 Matthew McConaughey's audiobook

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Making money from tariffs, bullish on the UK and the evolution of "make something people search for"

Episode 6

Friday, April 18, 2025 • Duration 47:42

Sabba went to Sri Lanka and came back with fire in his belly. He's ready to make money from the tariffs and so he discusses with Charlie how he'd do it. This got them thinking about the lack of energy in the US at the moment, and why they're bullish on the UK as a place to build. They wrap up talking about the biggest mega trend to make money with in 2025.

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00:00 - Intro
00:27 What Sabba learned about business in Sri Lanka
03:10 VEED's billboard ad cost and results
07:38 Tariffs chat
11:33 Making money from the tariffs
15:25 Europe vs USA vs UK
20:34 The evolution of "make something people search for"
23:27 Sabba's mega trend - AI wrappers
32:17 The future of AI products
37:50 Charlie's coworking space update
44:49 Charlie's vending machine business

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The $100m ARR future of VEED, 11x drama and do you need an audience?

Episode 5

Wednesday, April 9, 2025 • Duration 43:55

B2B SaaS drama has got spicy recently, with both 11x and Deel making headlines. Sabba and Charlie give their take on why the companies got in hot water and if it's justified. Sabba also gives his thoughts on the future of VEED as they storm towards their $100m ARR goal and what happens next for the company.

Timestamps

00:00 MRR Show 005
01:06 Harry Dry's marketing course
08:02 The 11x drama
14:16 Deel drama
17:50 Do you need an audience?
24:55 Loom exit
31:55 The future of VEED
35:01 Studio Ghibli virality
39:47 The future of AI image generation

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UK vs US for startups, Charlie's new coworking space and VEED's NYC subway advertising breakdown

Episode 4

Wednesday, April 2, 2025 • Duration 52:01

This week Sabba and Charlie still struggle to get their audio recorded properly* but the content is top notch. Dubbed the UK's answer to My First Million, the two kick off with debating if the UK is better than the US for building a startup. Sabba questions Charlie's sanity starting a coworking space in London, before explaining how much VEED spent on bright green advertising on the NYC subway.

00:00 Intro
00:04 Charlie almost gets robbed by a creative director
03:25 Is the UK a good place to build a startup?
16:09 What to do when you're successful but unhappy
24:45 Charlie's new coworking space
38:34 One thing vs multiple projects
44:33 Breakdown of VEED's NYC subway ad

*(salty Producer James writing this)

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ADHD product opportunity, Third Space for martial arts and Project Europe

Episode 3

Thursday, March 27, 2025 • Duration 57:14

Charlie and Sabba are back three weeks later for their weekly podcast, bringing you some banger business ideas. The chaps dive into Exploding Topics and discuss opportunities in ADHD, creating a Third Space style martial arts gym and building a better dentist. They're also bullish on Project Europe.

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00:00 Intro
02:39 VC fund for consumer brands
05:23 Charlie's consumer trend idea
22:45 Innovating in the health space
24:48 High end martial arts gym
33:38 AI Agents
43:18 Model Context Protocol
49:24 Project Europe

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Directories, a d*ck measuring app and a sure-fire $10k MRR idea

Episode 2

Monday, March 3, 2025 • Duration 30:22

Charlie and Sabba are back, fighting through a challenging remote connection, bringing you a cracking set of business ideas. Charlie brings a few interesting product discoveries from Indie Beers in Lisbon and Sabba stumbled across a $5-10k MRR idea while in a Ford Fiesta.

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00:00 The MRR Show ep 2
01:28 D*ck measuring app
03:52 Funeral directory business
08:16 Feedback on episode 1
13:48 Car error code business idea
23:02 How to find new business ideas

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(Pilot) AI pets, growth for free and why you should start a sauna

Episode 1

Tuesday, February 25, 2025 • Duration 58:49

Hello and welcome to the pilot episode of The MRR Show, with Charlie Ward and Sabba Keynejad. Charlie is the founder of Ramen Club and Sabba is the co-founder of VEED.io. The duo are coming together for this pilot episode, to share their thoughts on SaaS, tech and startups, from the perspective of two successful founders with Charlie being the heart of the london indie community and Sabba running an 8 figure VC backed SaaS. AI is a prominent feature in this first episode, talking about meetups, fine tuning LLMs and being able to talk to your dog.

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00:00 - Intro
01:35 - AI Events
04:30 - is Meetup full of grifters?
08:18 - Who is going to be the next billion $ company?
11:18 - Competing against AI
16:56 - How to capitilise on the AI tool trend
24:19 - Character.ai
30:37 - Fine tuning LLMs
35:44 - Loveable for X
37:46 - Build something people search for
41:12 - Micro tool strategy
46:46 - Should you have a free plan
50:34 - Peach.ai
52:12 - Sabba's local sauna

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Loveable's insane raise, how to make $1m with eSIMs and breaking down the most effective growth channels

Episode 16

Thursday, July 31, 2025 • Duration 56:03

The boys are back talking about Loveable's insane growth and $200m raise, the dangers of founder liquidity, plus more AI chat (of course). Charlie turns Sabba into BusinessGuruGPT prompting him with how he'd grow an eSIM business to $1m in a year. All this, and more, in this week's episode of NAPKIN MATH.

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00:00 Intro
00:30 Loveable raises $200m
05:58 Jason Lemkin's Replit disaster
09:38 Takeaways from Loveable's raise and the future of AI companies
15:53 Generative content opportunities
18:19 Making £1m from e-sims
30:17 Founder liquidity
40:14 Focusing on a single growth channel
45:25 Are AI influencers important in the future of marketing
48:34 Should we be worried about the AI backlash?
53:30 The seasonality of SaaS

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