Explore every episode of the podcast My Shout

There are two conversations in every business transition. The official one that happens in boardrooms, management meetings and tidy documents, and the real one that happens afterwards, over a drink with someone you trust.

This podcast is about the real one.

Over the next decade, thousands of Australian businesses will face succession, sale or scale decisions, and the clean version on paper rarely matches the messy reality.

Hosted by Shane Williams - a strategic advisor to SMEs - this show is for owners, families, buyers, investors, operators and advisors who want to better understand what really happens beneath the surface of business transition.

Pull up a stool, grab your favourite drink and get ready to join the conversation.

My Shout is where the board meeting ends and the real conversation starts.