The potential of NFTs to save musicians was always pretty tenuous, and the more excitable proponents of the whole thing always sounded a bit too much like they were either trying to convince themselves about it. Or maybe that they were just scamming.

Our guest this week is deep in the world of digital art, but doesn't make any bold claims to be even linking it in much of a way to his first area of creative interest which was, of course, music.

Agoria is an important name in the history of the French scene, with a long career releasing records on the full spectrum of labels, throwing parties (including the key festival Nuits Sonores), and DJing all over the world. He's also a thoroughly nice chap who I've had the pleasuring of hanging out with a playing a good few b2b sets with over the years.

We discuss the whole web3 thing, his involvement in the digital art scene more generally, the Paris olympics, meeting President Macron, the Presidential art collection, the future of dance music, and a lot more besides.

I loved this conversation and you're going to too!

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In 2020, our guest this week was named an Artist in Residence at the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI). Thus we are finally able to continue the theme established on episode 84 with Matthew Dear, a line of enquiry which I know many of you were keen to see more fully interrogated on the podcast.

Daedelus has been making music since the 90s, releasing albums (on labels including Brainfeeder and Ninja Tune) almost every year this century, and performing with such virtuosity that they are now a professor of electronic music performance at Berklee's Electronic Production and Design Department.

So we had much to discuss during this conversation, including the nature of extra terrestrial communication, government efforts to support the creativity, intellectual property and sampling, the making of albums, and the views and expectations of the new generation of musicians.

This is a good one...

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Are we partying like it's 1999? I mean what it was actually like in 99, not how Prince imagined it might be back in 1982.

Millennium eve was supposed to be the best thing ever. I was beside myself with excitement for months beforehand, possibly years. But when push came to shove, my group of friends didn't even bother going to a rave and spent an underwhelming evening drinking warm champagne on Brighton Beach before attending a number of deeply boring house parties.

The subsequent inquest carried out in the pages of Mixmag, DJ Mag, and the rest suggested that our experience wasn't unusual. Promoters lost unfathomable amounts of money that night and the overall impression was that an enormous bubble had prematurely burst with the least fanfare possible.

The current landscape lacks a similar finishing line, but the bug-eyed faux enthusiasm and lip-smacking commercialism which seems to define everything in the dance scene right now definitely has a similar feel to the end of the 90s. But what, if anything, is going to let the air out this time? 1999 was also the time that our guest this week, Steve Bug, and some of the Superstition Records gang from Hamburg started Poker Flat Recordings, one of the labels that would define the minimal sound that emerged from the wreckage of Millennium Eve.

Steve has been pretty outspoken in his interviews of the last few years on above topics, so of course I wanted to get him on the podcast to talk about it. This conversation dovetails nicely with last week's episode with Radio Slave, in which I noted that 'if something is shit, then you should say it's shit, and this [the current dance scene] is shit'.

There is a reasonable degree of constructive comment in this episode though, as well as the doom. I think there is anyway!

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Better late than never! We had all sorts of problems with getting the podcast out this week, not helped by a trip to ADE in Amsterdam to record an episode with Ellen Allien which (all things going well) will be on your feed next week.

But right now on the show we have a very interesting and important person in the underground music scene of the UK - Elijah.

You may remember his work in the grime scene with Skilliam, you may remember his label, Butterz, if you're in the industry you may know him as an artist manager. But most likely you'll know his Yellow Squares project which has recently brought him a lot of attention as he leads a broad discussion of how the industry works, and how artists should conduct their careers.

So given our mission on this podcast, the man is an ideal guest and you are going to get a lot out of this conversation. We cover a range of topics including the cancellation of shows, transparency and the idea of making your income public, as well as getting into the history of the grime scene too.

An awesome episode which I think was worth the wait.

You can check his 'Close The App, Make The Thing' lecture here.

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What happens when you discover a new form of music being made thousands of miles away, but there’s nowhere to dance to it in your city? Or even your country?

If you’re Dave Q, you go right ahead and put on a party, which is what he did when he held the first Dub War event in New York City during the summer of 2005. 

That makes him an extremely important person in the development of bass music in North America, and while we heard a lot about this from Joe Nice, one of the resident DJs at Dub War, it was Dave’s relationship with the music that really made this happen. 

So what we have here is a crucial addition to the story of Dubstep. We talk about all that of course, in addition to the challenge of juggling it all with another career, pilgrimages to DMZ in London, and the effects of 9/11 on the music scene in New York. 

After an 8k mile round trip to Infrasound Equinox Festival in Minnesota last weekend, I am feeling pretty fried. To the extent that I actually get the name of the festival wrong in the intro to this week's show... but that's what touring does to you ! Great to meet so many nice people, loved the vibes. Mental note to stay a bit longer next time...

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The feedback to Episode 26 of the show with MJ Cole was overwhelming. But we came away from that episode without the real insider story of the UK Garage scene being told - what we got instead was the MJ Cole story, which was amazing in itself, but missing some of the key details as to how this unique genre of Dance Music unfolded.

This week we welcome one of the absolute best people around to fill in those gaps and really dig into the development of UKG, and that man is none other than DJ Spoony.

As part of the Dreem Teem (with Timmi Magic and Mikee B) he presented the key UK Garage show on BBC Radio 1, was resident at arguably the most important UK Garage night in Twice As Nice, and was a general ambassador for a sound that took over the UK charts and radio waves in the late 90s and early 2000s.

So we get the full Garage story here, as well as discussing the effect of institutional racism on the UK music scene, his early years as a DJ pre-UKG, and his other career in football broadcasting.

I had high expectations for this episode but I think it exceeded them... you're gonna love this.

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Can a DJ influence government policy? Sunil Sharpe has certainly tried, and through various campaigns going back to the mid 2000s his voice in the development of nightlife policy in Ireland has been a significant one.

That makes him a great guest for the show and we dig into some of the machinations of policy-making, as well as the more directly music-related issues of DJing with vinyl, crowd behaviour, the changing nature of how electronic is viewed, and much else besides.

Sunil is a man who likes to talk and this was a highly enjoyable conversation.

After the conversation I also give a rundown of my thoughts on the techno twitter viral event of last week... you know the one :D

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Groupthink is everywhere, but rarely found in a more pronounced form these days than in the dance scene.

Patrice Bäumel is not a fan of this phenomenon and, to his credit, he is willing to challenge received wisdom and orthodoxy. That approach to life makes him an ideal guest for this show and it was a pleasure to dig into some thorny topics with him over the course of a two hour conversation.

In addition to the topic of groupthink itself, we discussed the definitions of freedom and art, community living at Burning Man, and the legendary Amsterdam club known as Trouw.

I was very much looking forward to this episode, and I think we managed to keep a musical grounding to a discussion which covered many areas of culture, politics, and even some economics.

Here's the KLF book by John Higgs that I reference.

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Releasing your own music can be liberating, but it also involves challenges. How keen are you on self-promotion? Well you better get used to it if you're self-releasing.

Steffi is a long running resident of Berghain/Panorama Bar, and an alumnus of their label, Ostgut Ton. For her forthcoming album, The Red Hunter, she has taken over those responsibilities with a new imprint called Candy Mountain.

We discuss all that at length, plus taking the opportunity to dig into her background in the Netherlands, what it means to be underground, the challenges of production, and the possible future paths of the dance scene.

This was a conversation I have been waiting for since we launched the pod, and it did not disappoint. Steffi is great and you will love this episode.

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This week I'm taking the opportunity to evaluate what we've been doing on the show during the 19 weeks since I last did a solo pod. That also ties in neatly with a weekend I just spent in Berlin where we held a Hotflush party at Æden, and also collabed with HÖR on sets from me, Anna Kost, Roska, and Closet Yi.

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We have been angling for a booking agent to guest on the show since launching the podcast, and finally we have one!

Ned Beckett is the founder of the Little Big agency, represents Aphex Twin, and is as well placed as anyone to make the case for the contribution made by agents to the careers of artists and live music as a whole.

We discuss his formative period with Warp Records, the development of electronic music in the live space, and the challenges of founding an agency when you have no idea what an agency does.

Ned is a super interesting guy and this is a great conversation... a different perspective to previous guests, you will enjoy this one.

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Electronic music and DJing are intrinsically linked, so what happens when your studio output shifts from being explicitly designed for mixing to something far less functional?

Performing live is a challenge many DJs have taken up, but few as comprehensively as George FitzGerald who fully embraced the live experience after signing to Domino Records and releasing music which was a step away from the UK-bass inflected house bangers with which he initially made his name.

We discuss all that, before embarking on a much wider discussion on the recent changes in the music industry and potential developments that may or may not transpire over the coming decade or two, including the possibility of a VR Berghain, and speculating on why private jet selfies aren't treated in the manner they surely deserve.

Those of you who have followed my career will be aware that George and I go back a long way, but fear not: this episode manages to avoid descending into bro-down territory and was nonetheless an extremely enjoyable and illuminating conversation to have.

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Miami is one of those places whose reputation precedes it. South Beach, basically. Which anyone with any smarts will reassure you is far from the whole story.

Danny Daze is a second-generation Cuban who is Miami to the core. He's a former pro-level tennis player who spends his time running TR808s through an Eventide H9000, and is currently preparing to perform his forthcoming album in a planetarium. He also has strong opinions on just about everything.

We discuss topics including the aforementioned legendary FX processor, the unintended consequences of diversity riders, why Web3 is going to change the lives of musicians, and what it's like to accidentally become a Tech House star with no prior knowledge of Tech House.

Danny is a dude with a deep voice and stories to tell, and this is an awesome conversation.

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At what point does criticism of changes in culture become overly reactive? This is a question I've wrestled with continuously over the past couple of years, but I can't get past the conclusion that if something isn't good then pointing that fact out is never really a bad thing... right?

My conversation with Radio Slave this week doesn't pull any punches on what is wrong with dance music currently. It's no longer cool. Social media is rewarding the wrong stuff. The history of the thing is being trampled on and turned into something that bears no resemblance to the original vision.

But over the top of all that is a sense that good things are still happening, and that maybe it wouldn't take much for the forces of commercialism too be swept away and something great to emerge. Kind of like what happened after the turn of the millennium, a period which felt quite a bit like it does now.

We also discuss the new Radio Slave album, the changing nature of running a label in this space (Rekids, in this instance), and try to anticipate how it's all going to develop... positive or negative!

Matt Edwards is a don of the scene and you're going to enjoy this conversation!

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Pirate radio as part of underground music is commonly seen as a London phenomenon, but in the early 90s Kiss FM in Berlin was a key part of the emerging landscape.

Anja Schneider played an important role in that extremely exciting period in the development of dance music, and has gone on to have a varied and successful career running labels, making tracks, presenting radio shows, and of course DJing.

We discuss topics including the position of radio today, the development of record labels in the dance scene over time, a 1991 Wu Tang Clan appearance in Berlin, and of course we get into some detail on the topic of the history of Berlin clubs.

Anja is an awesome person and this was a great conversation!

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The touring lifestyle is not for everyone. It's the classic case of something which appears to be endlessly glamorous from the outside, but the reality of which is something else entirely. Everyone wants to be a part of it, few manage to sustain it for very long.

At this point Ali Shirazinia, aka Dubfire, might (without too much of an emphasis on 80s imagery) be described as a road warrior. Touring hard internationally since the mid 90s as part of Deep Dish, he seemingly never lets up and is absolutely a creature of that way of life. His reinvention as a solo artist over the past 15 years have taken him everywhere and put him at the forefront of all the changes in the live side of electronic music over that time.

Our conversation covers his forthcoming album, his experiences in the New York club scene of the 90s, dealing with social media, and why high-end tasting menus are kind of like an open-to-close DJ set.

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Prince taught us all the importance of controlling your own music, and that is a concept which this week's guest has taken to heart over the course of his career. A label-owner, publisher, and spinner of DJ sets featuring exclusively his own material, Levon Vincent is a producer's producer and a proper hero of the underground.

In this conversation we get pretty deep into his roots in Newark and New York City, covering his formative musical years in the late 80s, through his experiences as an opening DJ at the legendary Limelight club, through to the Giuliani era which brought New York clubbing to an abrupt halt.

We also discuss topics including the life-affirming experience of Berghain, the difficulty of coming up with original titles (or even DJ names), and the importance of sound checks.

This week 'OneZeroFive', the second part of my collaboration with Bakongo aka Roska is out on Hotflush, also featuring a remix of 'Over Again' by Hassan Abou Alam.

We have also announced a Hotflush label event at Æden in Berlin on 2 Sept... Get involved!

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Dubstep Wars is a series we're incorporating into the show which takes a serious look at the development of Dubstep in the US. How it got there, how it grew, and what happened then. This is the second in the series, but we've got so much more than that on this episode.

Joe Nice is an actual hero of underground music in North America. Justifiably regarded as the first person on that side of the pond to push the Dubstep sound, he's also a political activist of deep knowledge and passion.

Regular listeners will know that I love digging into political matters with music people and we absolutely do that here, including on whether musicians have a duty to be political, the differences between the US and Europe, and the issue of censorship in the media.

We also discuss topics including the cutting of dubplates, AOL Instant Messenger, and the legendary NYC Dubstep institution that was Dub War.

This is our longest conversation to date on the show and one that I absolutely loved having. Joe is an awesome guy and I can guarantee that you will love his stories and energy.

No releases on Hotflush labels this week but we just announced the next collab between myself and Bakongo, which also includes a remix from the totally awesome Hassan Abou Alam.

And don't forget to check the new Anna Kost EP if you haven't already. It's really good.

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Hospital Records is one of the biggest labels in Drum n Bass, but its origins came out of the musical crossroads in the mid 90s which involved Acid Jazz, Broken Beat, elements of UK Garage, and of course Jungle.

Chris Goss was a co-founder, a key part of London Elektricity whose music Hospital was in part set up to support, and now runs the label and all of its constituent parts as the MD.

We talk about the history of the label, how it functions today, the relative importance of the Hospitality live events side of the business, and go down many peripheral rabbit holes relating to all of that stuff.

Hospital was a real inspiration to me in setting up Hotflush, so I was very excited to have Chris on the show... he did not disappoint!

On Hotflush and affiliated labels this week we have the return of the hugely exciting young artist Anna Kost with her new EP on Who Whom entitled Waste Of Skin.

And the special talent that is Jayson Wynters returns to Rhythm Nation with Exit Wound, also featuring remixes from the amazing James Welsh.

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Should you bother to learn music theory if you want to make dance music? This is a rare area in life where ignorance is quite often openly celebrated. That's not to be sniffy about those who can't pick out the sixth note of a minor harmonic scale, but the arguments used to justify the lack of knowledge do lend themselves to a suspicion that the people involved are either kidding themselves or seeking to do as much to everyone else.

In the introduction to an interview with MJ Cole, the term 'classically trained' is reliably invoked - notwithstanding the opening paragraph this is an epithet which can justifiably be met with some trepidation. In this case however, the briefest acquaintance with his late 90s, genre-defining UK Garage classic 'Sincere' instantly banishes any such worries.

This is a maker of tunes with the highest level of sophistication in terms of knowledge and technique, but also the chops to know when to let those things get out of the way.

I was intending to have something of a deep dive into the development of UK Garage during this conversation, but instead we got a snapshot of a career defined much more by a personal approach to music than fitting into a given genre, even though the MJ Cole name is synonymous with the aforementioned style.

We also discuss other stuff including that first question about the value of technique in making club music, engineering tunes for DJs, and the relationship between UK Garage and Jungle/DnB.

This is an awesome conversation with a really important figure in UK music. You will enjoy it!

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What constitutes a hit record? In the underground dance world the definition can be very different to one that, say, a major label exec living in LA might use. A genre-defining club track is not a "hit" on everyone's terms. But this week's guest has made records which can unambiguously be associated with the H-word.

Since starting out in the mid 2000s on Tiga's Turbo label, Duke Dumont has established himself as perhaps the leading UK exponent of what might be called 'pop house', and having decamped to Los Angeles a few years ago, he is able to give us a slightly different perspective on the industry to previous guests on the show.

We discuss topics including the mental bandwidth war in social media, the debilitating nature of depression on creativity, soundtracking experiences, and the freedom of writing albums.

This was a great conversation, you will enjoy it!

On Hotflush and affiliated labels.... this week Closet Yi drops the full release of her 'Simmer' EP. Check it out, it's awesome!

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At this point the argument over NFTs probably seems a bit tired. But the fact is that very often the real benefits, theoretical though they might be, can be absent from the conversation as a whole.

When Jacques Greene effectively sold the publishing rights to a track via the blockchain he was hinting at a world which currently doesn't exist, but the reality of which would unquestionably be a huge improvement to musicians. That is a world where contracts automatically execute without the need for legacy institutions which operate with extreme opacity and questionable efficacy.

So clearly the subject needed to be addressed during this conversation, and on this episode we get fairly deep on all that stuff.

Additionally to the NFT debate, we cover topics including the minutiae of 808 kickdrums, his experience with a major label, and the effect of high and low rents on the productivity of musicians.

This was a super-interesting conversation with someone with whom I have many mutual friends but had previously never talked to directly. You will enjoy it!

On Hotflush and affiliated labels.... a reminder for last week's drop of the James Welsh Sound Exchange Remix of Jayson Wynters' Lost City.

This week we have Biemsix dropping the second half of his latest EP with 'Highway High Way Too High' - proper techno.

And over on YAEL trip, Glaskin present their full remixes EP featuring me + Etapp Kyle, Baby T, Uncrat and Isaac Reuben... also out on Friday.

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When you're trying to get started in music there is a tendency to find yourself doing all sorts of stuff just for the privilege of being involved. One of the first things I ever did was conduct an extremely poorly-researched interview with an up-n-coming DJ and producer who was making tunes every dark garage DJ wanted (it wasn't quite called Grime yet). He called himself Plasticman.

A few years and one letter from Richie Hawtin later, Chris Reed aka Plastician was spinning on Radio 1, and shortly after that became one of the busiest DJs of the Dubstep explosion of 2006.

Fast-fwd another fifteen years and he is still DJing, making tunes, and running his label Terrorhythm, while also heavily involved in the Friends With Benefits DAO, and a firm advocate of the web3 space as a whole.

As the above would indicate we discuss a wide range of topics, including the end of UKG as we knew it in 2000, what exactly a DAO is anyway, and the legendary DJ Hatcha.

We also get pretty deep into the challenges of making a living out of music over the course of multiple decades, and the many different opportunities that present themselves along the way.

Chris is a true soldier of the UK underground and you will enjoy this conversation!

On Hotflush this week the 'Iceberg' EP from Bakongo drops, featuring the 'Over Again' collab with *me* which first dropped a few weeks ago.

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Musicians can be broadly assigned one of two categories - those who are willing to say what they think, and those who are not. There is an element of risk and reward at play in this dynamic - and it might be a calculated strategy or purely a reflection of a given person's ability (or otherwise) to express themselves.

This week's guest, Dave Clarke, is a reliable representative of the former group. He is frequently interviewed, and those interviews often cover topics which have little to do with music - international politics is a common point of discussion.... which leads us to the disclaimer that there is quite a lot of non-music related chat on the show this week.

BUT THAT'S OK. DJs shouldn't be limited to talking about kick drums, and we cover topics here including living abroad, Brexit, energy policy, cultural conservatism, as well as the disappearance of counter-culture, the perils of record deals, and the secret sauce of hardware compressors.

This was a conversation I was looking forward to having and it did not disappoint.

On Hotflush this week we have the second single from Closet Yi's 'Simmer' EP, entitled Red Comet. It's a cracker.

And my remix of Glaskin's amazing track Hydrogroove I is also out on Friday. 140bpm breakbeat action !

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It's the week after the week before.... no guest this week, but a deep dive into my experiences with live electronic music in the audience as well as being on stage myself.

And on stage I was, last week in London, Bristol, and Manchester. Huge thanks to all of you who attended the shows, had so much great feedback it's been a bit overwhelming actually. If you missed it then there will be more later in the year!

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Since the pandemic hit, no part of the music scene has been dissected so minutely by people with less direct knowledge than the club and festival circuit. That was inevitable - everyone loves to party and far too many take an unhealthy pleasure in the misfortune of others. Thankfully on this week's show we have some actual expertise to draw upon.

Rich McGinnis has an inordinate amount of experience of the area in question, going back to the early days of the rave scene in Northern Ireland, working at Amnesia in Ibiza, to being one of the key players in the seminal North-West parties Chibuku Shake Shake, Circus, and The Warehouse Project. He's also found time to play a key role in festivals including Parklife and Lovebox.

We talk about all of the above, plus the perils of chaperoning the denizens of Big Beat, why it's not always wise to build a DJ their own special booth for one gig, how ecstasy can change international politics, and much else besides.

Rich is a raconteur with stories to tell and you will enjoy this episode!

On Hotflush affiliated labels this week, Biemsix returns to Who Whom with the first part of a 5-track EP of signature deep and energetic techno.

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House music all night long is a fine adage for the feckless youth of no responsibility, but try delivering the aforementioned while breastfeeding a newborn and facing the prospect of doing the same thing tomorrow in a different country.

Cassy has unquestionably done the 'DJ thing'. Formerly resident of Circoloco and graduate of the inaugural Panorama Bar class, she's played all the shows anyone serious about House music ever wanted to.

We talk about all of that stuff, and also dig into some of the less glam aspects of DJing, like the limitations of being part of a highly-insular community like the dance scene, the increasing pressures to conform to the norms of that community, and the deficit of authentic voices in the scene. We also discuss making music, the influences of Prince and most notably James Brown, and address the crucial question of whether DJing is a form of art.

Cassy is a true original, and you will enjoy this conversation!

On Hotflush this week I drop a collaboration with Bakongo, aka former podcast guest Roska.

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Techno is a functional form of art, one which on first glance might seem highly formulaic but upon closer inspection reveals itself to be almost infinite in the number of variants in which it can appear while still feeling fresh.

Chris Liebing is a master of the style. From a starting point in the early-90s Frankfurt scene, through launching his recently-relaunched label CLR in 1999, up to his present position as one of the world's best-known Techno DJs, as comfortable playing Coachella as he is at Berghain, he has moved with the times while staying true to his self-confessed obsession with the kick drum.

In this conversation we discuss the continuing importance of record labels, the increasing irrelevance of albums (even as he releases them on Mute), the origins of Techno, the enduring appeal of DJing, the phenomenon of Tiktok, and much else besides.

Chris is such an interesting guy, with huge knowledge and experience - you will love this episode!

This week on Hotflush we welcome Closet Yi, dropping the first track from her forthcoming EP this Friday. And we celebrate the full release of Psyk's Scattered EP on Who Whom. Get involved on Bandcamp.

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Musicians often view the public relations side of the industry with a degree of suspicion. Sometimes outright hostility. This is occasionally the result of misinformation, or perhaps just a poor level of understanding of what can be a crucial cog in the wheel of an artist's career.

But like most things in music there can be a slightly unsavoury side to the construction of narrative and crafting of messages of the sort that PRs get up to which justifies a certain level of cynicism.

Melissa Taylor, we can rest assured, is not one of the bad ones. The owner of Tailored Communication, her day job as a PR guru(!) also involves management, and music consultancy. She was formerly press officer at Fabric in London, and is a current board member of the streaming co-operative Resonate.

She is also an engaging and witty conversationalist, and someone who is unafraid to be disagreed with - which is fortunate as we did have some points of departure in the course of this episode. But that's what a free exchange of ideas is all about, right? And in woefully short supply in the music conversation generally.

We cover topics including the problems of the streaming model, the role of co-operatives in a potential improvement, what it was like promoting a record in the early 2000s, the inability of the industry to deal with diversity issues, the Berlin club scene, the death of music reviews, and much else besides.

A great episode, you'll love it.

On Hotflush-affiliated labels this week we welcome Jayson Wynters to Rhythm Nation, and check Etapp Kyle's remix of Glaskin's Slim Line monster.

Some links from Melissa:

https://resonate.is/pricing/

https://pioneerworks.org/broadcast/library-music-liz-pelly

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Manchester in the late 1980s was as vibrant a musical environment as you could wish for, and following the second Summer of Love in 1987 societal barriers were crumbling as the combination of music and ecstasy provided the catalyst for eventually became the all-conquering leviathan that we now know as the global rave scene.

A Guy Called Gerald made key contributions to that moment, but the experience of releasing transcendent music via an industry that made today's seem like a paragon of professionalism was far from straightforward. His subsequent journey through genres, performance, and legal wrangling, has left him with a deeply held sense of independence.

We discuss all of the above over two highly interesting hours, in addition to digging into the specifics of how the industry might develop and many other sidetracks.

This week on Hotflush we welcome Psyk into the fold with his forthcoming EP 'Scattered'. Stand by for release news from Locked Groove coming this Friday... hotflush.bandcamp.com

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No-one knew anything about Dubstep in 2005. Almost no-one in London but definitely no-one in Denver, or so it would've been reasonable to assume but Nicole Cacciavillano launched her Dubstep night Submission that year and runs it to this day, now at her own venue The Black Box. It's fair to say that Nicole has been extremely influential in the development of the music scene in Denver, in her capacity as a promoter running her own parties, consulting for larger corporate venues, and since 2016 as a venue owner herself.

We cover topics including the running of venues generally and in a pandemic situation, how to build a music scene from the ground up, the divergence of the UK and North American bass music scenes, and how Skrillex appeared fully-formed apparently from nowhere.

Nicole is a unique person and this is a deeply interesting and engaging conversation. Get involved!

Quick note to say that some of the audio in this week's episode is a bit glitchy - rest assured that we will be back to exemplary sound quality next week.

Coming up on the labels this week we have something fresh on Who Whom.... hit up hotflush.bandcamp.com on Friday for full details.

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We are 15 weeks into the Not A Diving Podcast. On this week's show we discuss how it has gone so far, what the emergent themes have been, how it might develop in the future, and why we're doing it anyway. We also assess a weekend in Berlin involving two shows of sharply contrasting fortune.

The interview mentioned: http://www.lebronjames.co/interviews/scuba

Also discussed is: Der Klang Der Familie

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Following his debut release on Moving Shadow in 1999, Tim Exile has forged a singular path for himself in music. Releasing LPs on Planet Mu and Warp, previously working for German music-tech behemoth Native Instruments, and most recently founding the collaborative platform Endlesss, he has a restless creativity that often leads to unusual results. We cover topics including the pleasures of drum n bass, why there seems to be a culture war surrounding crypto and web3 in music, and whether widening participation in music is inherently a good thing. Tim is a true musical visionary and you will enjoy this episode!

Out via Hotflush channels this week is the amazing Who Whom debut from Anna Kost... get it on Bandcamp

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Mark Broadbent, the slightly embarrassed recipient of an Outstanding Contribution award from DJ Mag, is a nonetheless-legendary promoter and prominent proponent of the importance of serious music policy in nightclubs. Most noted for his work in Ibiza with We Love Space and Cream, he currently works on festivals in Croatia (including Love International and Hospitality) and events at Pikes Hotel in Ibiza. We discuss his journey through music, from the roots of acid house, the emergence of Cream in Liverpool, booking Carl Cox on Bondi beach on Millennium Eve, having Jeff Mills as a resident DJ, to being not-that-keen on the Swedish House Mafia. Mark has been everywhere and done everything, and you will enjoy this episode!

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Surgeon was part of what Dave Clarke has called the 'second wave of British techno', emerging from the mid 90s Birmingham scene as a resident at House Of God and affiliate of Regis' Downwards label. In the years since he has cemented a reputation as one of the foremost exponents of genuinely forward-thinking techno, and explored other styles with his work as Anthony Child and with Daniel Bean as The Transcendence Orchestra. We cover topics including the forces of conservatism in techno, the challenges of forging a link between human and machine, and running the risk of destroying your career by playing a support slot for Lady Gaga.

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D:U:LIVE is coming this week!! My first live shows since 2013.... London / Bristol / Manchester - all tickets: scubaoficial.io/live

How many proper recording studios are there left in big cities in 2024? And how many of those are used regularly for making proper dance music?

Probably not that many but one of them is run by this week's guest, a recoding engineer with a ton of house and techno credits and one half of the Lost Souls Of Saturn alongside previous NDP guest Seth Troxler.

Phil Moffa is a born-and-raised New Yorker, with the accent to prove it. He's also a great person too discuss many of our favourite topics with, including the historic club scene of NYC, the ethics of music technology, and the current state of house and techno.

We also get deep into Phil's journey through music as a DJ, engineer, and lecturer.

This is a good one!

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You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.

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Yotam Avni is a DJ and producer who established himself in the last decade with key releases on a wide range of some of the best-loved labels in house and techno, including Ovum, Innervisions, Kompakt, Stroboscopic Artefacts, and of course our own Hotflush Recordings. We discuss music journalism, his development as a producer, and his relationship with different music scenes around the world. We also discuss the difficulties of being an Israeli artist, from the unfortunate ubiquity of psytrance in the local scene, to the boycotting of Israel by some foreign acts and the difficulties of being an artist in a country whose government you deeply disagree with. Yotam is a singular guy with distinctive angle, and you will enjoy this episode!

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Appleblim came to prominence in the mid-2000s as part of the Skull Disco label which he ran with the highly singular producer known as Shackleton. He was a big part of the 'second wave' of artists who emerged from the formative dubstep scene in London, and became synonymous with the 'post-dubstep' movement from 2008-2012. In recent years he has released albums on Sneaker Social Club and continued to DJ around the world. We talk about the very early period of the dubstep scene in London, the life of a touring DJ, the legend of Skull Disco, and many other things... Appleblim is a raconteur and you will enjoy this episode!

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Mano Le Tough emerged as a DJ and producer of note in late 00s Berlin, in the wake of the minimal sound that had defined that decade and of which he was not a particular fan. Originally from a small town outside Dublin, he made his bones as a DJ in the Irish capital before decamping to Germany after Tensnake picked up his first effort on Ableton via Myspace. We talk about all of that, plus his voyages around the worldwide club scene, the decline of Ibiza, whether the album format makes sense for club music, the RA top DJs poll, and much else besides. A deep dive into the mind of one of the European underground's favourite DJs.

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Machinedrum is a producer from the United States, currently based in Los Angeles having voyaged from beginnings in North Carolina through the deep waters of New York and Berlin. His reputation as a sonic innovator pays tribute to a career steeped in collaboration and a commitment to releasing albums. We dig into his long-players on Ninja Tune and Planet Mu, finding a balance between experimentation and wider appeal, the culture to be found in different cities, and much else besides.

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Deadbeat is one of the foremost exponents of dub-influenced electronic music. A Canadian living in Berlin for more than 15 years, he has vast experience of making music, performing, and forging a path through the steep mountains of the North American and European electronic scenes. We talk about the development of the rave scene in the 90s, the birth of the Mutek Festival in Montreal, Berghain from its beginning as Ostgut, and many other fascinating areas.

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dBridge is an unequivocal legend of Drum n Bass. From his work as part of Future Forces Inc. on Renegade Hardware in the mid 90s, through the supergroup Bad Company and the Autonomic project with Instra:mental, right up to releasing 4 albums since 2018 on his own Exit Records label, he has been right at the cutting edge of the genre, and of electronic music generally for more than 25 years. We talk about the early Jungle scene, subgenre fragmentation, DnB politics, the tyranny of rewinds, and making peace with your own musical output. dBridge has some amazing stories and this is a conversation you will definitely enjoy!

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Roska is a DJ, producer, and label owner from the UK. His name is synonymous with UK Funky, and his three albums, released on UK label Rinse and his own label, are classics of the genre. He has stories to tell and many highly digestible nuggets of experience and advice to share with us.... you will enjoy this conversation!

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CINTHIE is a DJ, producer, label owner, and record shop proprietor from Berlin. We cover topics ranging from the early years of Berghain to the delights of making music using vintage outboard gear... a really fun conversation which covered a lot of topics. You will enjoy this one.

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Tiga is a Canadian DJ, recording artist, owner of Turbo Records, and host of the Last Party On Earth Podcast.

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Recondite is a producer and live performer from Germany. He has released LPs on Innervisions, Ghostly Int., Acid Test, and Plangent (a label he launched in 2010). His new album, Taum, is out now.

The limited vinyl-only reissue of Phalanx, his EP on Hotflush from 2018, is available now exclusively from the Hotflush Bandcamp store

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We've been covering techno quite a lot on the show recently, but mostly from a legacy perspective. This week we are joined with one of the last few years' breakdown names on the production side.

Based in Krakow, Poland, Karol Mozgawa aka Deas emerged largely via the Audio River festival, a truly world class event which is now its seventeenth year. Releases on CLR, Dynamic Reflection, Planet Rhythm, Materia and others have cemented his name in the DJ sets of the biggest and best techno jocks on the circuit.

Karol is a proper studio guy, with a room full of kit in his house outside Krakow, so we get into the weeds a bit with audio interfaces and outboard gear in this conversation.

But we also delve into more familiar territory too, addressing the state of the current scene, the good points and bad, as well as some scene-specific stuff in Poland too.

This is a good one, you're gonna enjoy it!

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Welcome to the inaugural episode of the Not A Diving Podcast with Scuba.

The first ever guest on the podcast is Will Saul. Will is the head of A&R at !K7 Records, the curator of the legendary DJ Kicks series, the head of the Aus Music label, and a storied DJ and producer.

The twitter thread in question

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D:U:LIVE is coming in June! My first live shows since 2013.... London / Bristol / Manchester - all tickets: scubaoficial.io/live

Tom Vek is a solo artist from the UK who has been signed to majors, indies, and been self released. He was in the news recently in the debate surrounding James Blake's Vault platform, penning an opinion piece on the subject in the Guardian.

So obviously we discuss all that stuff in this conversation, as well as his own contribution to the music distribution development conversation - the Supercollector blockchain platform.

We also get into his journey as a musician, from his extremely great first album 'We Have Sound' through a difficult period on Island/Universal, via his various excursions in tech and up to the present day.

Tom is a great guy whose music I've been a fan of for many years and you're gonna enjoy this conversation!

If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.

You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.

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