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Frozen Shoulder: What Is It Exactly, and How Can Exercises Help When Movement is Painful?30 Sep 202600:55:48

Frozen shoulder (also known as adhesive capsulitis) can cause pain, stiffness and a significant loss of shoulder range of motion. In this episode, biomechanist Katy Bowman and biologist Dr Jeannette Loram explain what’s actually happening inside the shoulder capsule during frozen shoulder. They discuss the different stages of the condition — including the freezing, frozen and thawing phases — as well as its connections with inflammation, menopause and diabetes.

They also explore why movement matters for shoulder health, and during recovery from frozen shoulder. To understand how movement can affect the shoulder capsule, it’s important to distinguish between movement in the shoulder and movement of the shoulder. Katy and Jeannette also look at everyday habits that may limit capsule movement and share some practical daily movements for maintaining shoulder mobility. Plus, they answer a listener's question about using hand paddles when swimming.


Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript

00:00 Why we're talking about frozen shoulder
02:45 Dynamic Collective sponsors
05:05 What is frozen shoulder (adhesive capsulitis)?
14:28 Frozen shoulder, inflammation, menopause & other risk factors
24:37 The freezing, frozen & thawing stages — and treatment
29:16 Movement as prevention: moving in the shoulder vs movement of the shoulder
33:00 Daily prehab & rehab movements
37:22 Why, in this case, pain might be the way through
40:58 Everyday shoulder habits: bags, carrying & asymmetry
43:13 Should you swim with hand paddles? — listener question sponsored by ScreenFit™
51:00 Your shoulder movement diet: climbing & clambering, hanging & “paint the globe”



Research Mentioned 

Millar, N. L. et al. (2022). Frozen shoulder. Nature Reviews Disease Primers, 8, 59. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41572-022-00386-2
Navarro-Ledesma, S. (2025). Frozen Shoulder as a Systemic Immunometabolic Disorder: The Roles of Estrogen, Thyroid Dysfunction, Endothelial Health, Lifestyle, and Clinical Implications. Journal of Clinical Medicine, 14(20), 7315. https://doi.org/10.3390/jcm14207315
Salamh, P. et al. (2025). An International Consensus on the Etiology, Risk Factors, Diagnosis and Management for Individuals with Frozen Shoulder: a Delphi study. Journal of Manual & Manipulative Therapy, 33(4), 309–320. https://doi.org/10.1080/10669817.2025.2470461

Podcasts mentioned

Ep 187: Diabetes and Exercise: How Exactly Muscle Movement Manages Blood Sugar
Ep 208: Too Much Sitting, Spiky Cholesterol and Heart Disease



Connect, Move & Learn with Katy

Free Shoulder Class With Katy: How to Move In the Shoulder Joint
Join Our Newsletter: Movement Colored Glasses
Follow Katy on Substack
Try Katy's Virtual Studio Free for 7 days!

Made Possible By Our Wonderful Sponsors:

Venn Design: Beautifully upholstered ball-shaped Air Chairs and floor cushions that encourage dynamic sitting
Freet Barefoot: creators of comfortable barefoot shoes built for natural movement, flexibility, and durability— use code DNA10 for 10% off.
ScreenFit™: a complete online vision training program —take $200 off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT
Ikaria Design: The Soul Seat® offers height-adjustable, multi-position sitting—get 10% off new chairs and desks with code DNA10
Movemate: Active standing boards with smoothly articulating wooden slats. Designed to keep you moving without interrupting your focus.
My Happy Feet: Toe-spacing socks that gently realign toes for comfortable shoe recovery—take 20% off with code MYDNA
Earth Runners:  makers of minimalist earthing sandals designed for natural foot movement and connection to the ground— use code DNA10 for 10% off.


October Retreats 2026 

Don’t Let Your Office Job Keep You From Moving23 Sep 202601:13:40

You hear the Move Your DNA message: you need more movement spread throughout your day, not just more exercise. But how is that possible if you work a conventional 9–5 office job?

Join biomechanist Katy Bowman and biologist Dr. Jeannette Loram as they walk through a typical day for an office worker, from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m., looking at ways to find more movement both during and beyond the workday. They share practical ideas for building movement into how you get dressed, shower, eat, commute, work, do chores, relax and spend time with family and friends — without needing to carve out more hours for exercise.

At 9 a.m., Katy is joined by Sohail Shariff, co-founder of Movemate, to explore how to bring more movement into your workstation while staying productive. They discuss why simply switching from sitting to standing isn't necessarily the answer, and how varying your position is both “cyclical movement” and “cyclical rest,” allowing different parts of the body to take turns being moved and loaded. Your low back will thank you!

Katy and Jeannette also discuss getting away from your workstation to move and tackle a common concern: won't taking movement breaks make me less productive? Katy suggests that stepping away can actually support productivity and shares some of her own “tells” that she's no longer doing focused work — like jumping between tasks — explaining how recognising these moments can become a cue to move and then return to the task refreshed.

Whether you're tied to a desk for 8 hours or simply spend too much of your day sitting, this episode offers practical ways to find more movement throughout the whole day.


Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript

00:00:00 – Getting more movement when you have an office job
00:03:43 – Dynamic Collective sponsors
00:06:15 – Start with the most flexible hours of your day: moving more outside work hours
00:06:58 – 6am to 9am: opportunities for movement in how you shower, eat breakfast and commute
00:15:50 – 9am: dynamic workstation with Sohail Shariff of Movemate
00:35:34 – 10am to 5pm: upper-body office moves, eye exercises, roaming meetings and active lunch breaks
00:49:36 – 5pm to 10pm: everyday movement around food, family time and sleep
01:03:17 – Listener question: how do I move more and still be productive



Connect with Movemate™

Find out more about the board · Movemate on Instagram



Books mentioned


I Know I Should Exercise But… by Diana Hill and Katy Bowman
My Perfect Movement Plan by Katy Bowman
Diastasis Recti by Katy Bowman
How to Get More Movement in a 9–5 by Katy Bowman
Slow Productivity by Cal Newport
Deep Work by Cal Newport
Walk When the Moon Is Full by Frances Hamerstrom


Podcasts mentioned 

Ep 184: Dynamic Wardrobes: How Clothes Can Restrict, Encourage or Stabilize Movement
Ep 212: Use Your Eyes and Ears to Improve the Way You Move


Connect, Move & Learn with Katy

Join Our Newsletter: Movement Colored Glasses
Follow Katy on Substack
Try Katy's Virtual Studio Free for 7 days!

Made Possible By Our Wonderful Sponsors:

Ikaria Design: The Soul Seat® offers height-adjustable, multi-position sitting—get 10% off new chairs and desks with code DNA10
My Happy Feet: Toe-spacing socks that gently realign toes for comfortable shoe recovery—take 20% off with code MYDNA
Earth Runners:  makers of minimalist earthing sandals designed for natural foot movement and connection to the ground— use code DNA10 for 10% off.
ScreenFit™: a complete online vision training program —take $200 off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT
Freet Barefoot: creators of comfortable barefoot shoes built for natural movement, flexibility, and durability— use code DNA10 for 10% off.
Movemate: Active standing boards with smoothly articulating wooden slats. Designed to keep you moving without interrupting your focus.
Venn Design: Beautifully upholstered ball-shaped Air Chairs and floor cushions that encourage dynamic sitting


October Retreats 2026 

Use Your Eyes and Ears to Improve the Way You Move31 Aug 202601:17:23

Movement isn't just about muscles and joints. It's also about how our bodies are taking in, interpreting and responding to the world around us.

Katy Bowman and Dr. Jeannette Loram discuss how listening can provide valuable information about how we're moving: listening to the sound of your feet landing as you walk, the rhythm and mechanics of rowing, the sound of your stroke as you swim, and even the timing and quality of the breath during exercise can attune you to the form and efficiency of your movement.

The conversation turns to vision with neuro-optometrist Dr. Bryce Appelbaum. Katy and Dr Appelbaum explore the relationship between vision and movement, including how visual information can influence balance, spatial orientation and confidence when navigating complex environments. They discuss how our ability to perceive the physical world can be diminished by prolonged, narrow focus on our screens, and how menopause can make visually demanding tasks even more overwhelming. Dr. Appelbaum shares some eye exercises to help us take in more of the world around us—improving our visual system and physical competence at the same time.

Finally, Katy and Jeannette answer a listener question about movement programmes for blind people.


Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript

00:00:00 – Listening to gait
00:04:36 – Dynamic Collective sponsors 
00:06:53 – Putting our senses to work: walking, rowing, swimming and soccer
00:25:29 – Vision is more than eyesight: how vision guides movement
00:30:11 – Screens, peripheral vision & taking in the world
00:48:42 – Vision and menopause: brain fog and overwhelm
00:56:32 – Listener question on movement classes for blind people sponsored by Movemate 


Books, Podcasts & Other Resources

Podcast: Can Exercise Fix Aging Eyes? Ep 186 — Move Your DNA Podcast
Podcast: What’s It Like to Slowly Go Blind? — Search Engine Podcast
Book: An Immense World: How Animal Senses Reveal the Hidden Realms Around Us by Ed Yong
Book: The Country of the Blind by Andrew Leland
Book: All the Light We Cannot See by Anthony Doerr 


Connect with Dr. Bryce Appelbaum

My Vision First — Dr. Bryce Appelbaum’s Vision Therapy Clinic
Dr. Bryce Appelbaum on Instagram

ScreenFit™ by Dr. Bryce Appelbaum — take $200 off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT


Connect, Move & Learn with Katy

Join Our Newsletter: Movement Colored Glasses
Follow Katy on Substack
Try Katy's Virtual Studio Free for 7 days!

Made Possible By Our Wonderful Sponsors:

Earth Runners:  makers of minimalist earthing sandals designed for natural foot movement and connection to the ground— use code DNA10 for 10% off.
Movemate: Active standing boards with smoothly articulating wooden slats. Designed to keep you moving without interrupting your focus.
Venn Design: Beautifully upholstered ball-shaped Air Chairs and floor cushions that encourage dynamic sitting
My Happy Feet: Toe-spacing socks that gently realign toes for comfortable shoe recovery—take 20% off with code MYDNA
Freet Barefoot: creators of comfortable barefoot shoes built for natural movement, flexibility, and durability— use code DNA10 for 10% off.
Ikaria Design: The Soul Seat® offers height-adjustable, multi-position sitting—get 10% off new chairs and desks with code DNA10
ScreenFit™: a complete online vision training program —take $200 off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT


October Retreats 2026 

Raising Dynamic Kids: Monkey Bars, Fidget Seats & Phone Boundaries18 Aug 202601:09:40

Katy talks to kids raised in a dynamic, "low-furniture" home that swapped conventional couches for indoor monkey bars and balance toys. How did it go?

Katy and Jeannette also talk about raising dynamic kids as they grow up, including family movement, getting teenagers to participate, and navigating phones and screen time. Then Katy talks to Pack Matthews, creator of the Soul Seat, about his new Fidget Seat designed for children, and how flexible seating can give kids more opportunities to move while they learn and can also help with focus and attention.


Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript

0:00 — Katy’s dynamic home
2:50 — The Dynamic Collective
5:00 — Katy talks to kids raised in a “low-furniture” home
28:19 — Listener question: Family movement and screen time, sponsored by Earth Runners
44:00 — The Fidget Seat: Helping kids not sit still


Books, Links and Resources:

Grow Wild: The Whole-Child, Whole-Family Nature-Rich Guide to Moving More by Katy Bowman
Grow Wild

A Video Tour of Katy’s Movement-Rich Home

A Home With No Furniture: Interview with Katy Bowman

The Fidget Seat


The Fidget Seat — a movement-first chair for kids designed to let them keep moving while they learn


Use code DNA10 for 10% discount on the Fidget Seat 


Connect, Move & Learn:

Join Our Newsletter: Movement Colored Glasses
Follow Katy on Substack
Try Katy's Virtual Studio Free for 7 days!

Made Possible By Our Wonderful Sponsors:

My Happy Feet: Toe-spacing socks that gently realign toes for comfortable shoe recovery—take 20% off with code MYDNA
Movemate: Active standing boards with smoothly articulating wooden slats. Designed to keep you moving without interrupting your focus.
Freet Barefoot: creators of comfortable barefoot shoes built for natural movement, flexibility, and durability— use code DNA10 for 10% off.
ScreenFit™: a complete online vision training program —take $200 off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT
Venn Design: Beautifully upholstered ball-shaped Air Chairs and floor cushions that encourage dynamic sitting
Earth Runners:  makers of minimalist earthing sandals designed for natural foot movement and connection to the ground— use code DNA10 for 10% off.
Ikaria Design: The Soul Seat® offers height-adjustable, multi-position sitting—get 10% off new chairs and desks with code DNA10


October Retreats 2026 

The Shape of Cycling — and How to Balance It 22 Jul 202601:06:35


Cycling is fantastic for cardiovascular fitness, endurance, and getting around—but what happens when it becomes your main form of movement? In this episode, Katy Bowman and Dr. Jeannette Loram explore how cycling shapes the body, from bone health and posture to hip mobility, spinal curves, and pelvic comfort. They discuss why even healthy forms of exercise don't provide every movement nutrient you need, and share practical strategies to help cyclists enjoy the ride while supporting long-term strength, mobility, and resilience.

Plus Katy speaks with Tyler Benner, founder of Strong Feet Athletics, about the role of the feet in cycling and what happens when we lock them into rigid compressive cycling shoes for hours at a time. They explore the benefits of a more foot-shaped, flexible cycling shoe and how allowing the feet more freedom may help support lower limb function both on and off the bike.



Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript


0:22 — Dynamic Collective Sponsors

2:37 — Introduction to Cycling, the Movement Diet, and the Tissues of the Body

5:35 — Bone Density in Cyclists

13:36 — Low Energy Availability in Cyclists: Effects on Hormones and Bones

17:36 — How Your Body Can Become Semi-Fixed in a Cycling Shape

20:04 — Hyperkyphosis and Cervical Issues

25:19 — Pelvic Position and Compression

30:47 — Practical Ways to Balance Cycling

33:22 — Interview with Tyler Benner: The Creator of the First Foot-Shaped Cycling Shoe

56:10 — Listener Question: What Kind of Pillow Should You Sleep On? Sponsored by My Happy Feet



Books, Links and Resources:

Simple Steps to Foot Pain Relief
by Katy Bowman
Move Your DNA by Katy Bowman
My Perfect Movement Plan by Katy Bowman
Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes
Strong Feet Athletics: the first foot-shaped cycling shoe
Anya's Review of Strong Feet Athletics Leviathan cycling shoe

Connect, Move & Learn:

Join Our Newsletter: Movement Colored Glasses
Follow Katy on Substack
Try Katy's Virtual Studio Free for 7 days!

Made Possible By Our Wonderful Sponsors:

ScreenFit™: a complete online vision training program —take $200 off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT
Ikaria Design: The Soul Seat® offers height-adjustable, multi-position sitting—get 10% off new chairs and desks with code DNA10
My Happy Feet: Toe-spacing socks that gently realign toes for comfortable shoe recovery—take 20% off with code MYDNA
Earth Runners:  makers of minimalist earthing sandals designed for natural foot movement and connection to the ground— use code DNA10 for 10% off.
Freet Barefoot: creators of comfortable barefoot shoes built for natural movement, flexibility, and durability— use code DNA10 for 10% off.
Venn Design: Beautifully upholstered ball-shaped Air Chairs and floor cushions that encourage dynamic sitting
Movemate: Active standing boards with smoothly articulating wooden slats. Designed to keep you moving without interrupting your focus.


Thoughts/questions email us at podcast@nutritiousmovement.com
Your Voice on the Podcast: Read The Credits 


October Retreats 2026 

One Step at a Time: Movement Mantras for Better Walks08 Jul 202600:55:31

What if one simple cue could change the way you walk? In this episode, Katy introduces movement mantras—easy-to-remember prompts that help you improve your gait one step at a time. Learn how small changes to posture, arm swing, push-off, foot placement, and even the routes you choose can make walking feel stronger, smoother, and more comfortable.

Plus, Katy and Jeannette talk with the team behind Freet Barefoot about walking culture, healthy footwear, and hiking in all kinds of terrain, before answering a listener question on vibration plates and lymphatic drainage.


Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript


0:00 — Intro & encouraging kids to walk
7:15 — Dynamic Collective Sponsors
14:20 — The “Mental Ten” for better walking
15:00 — Movement mantras for posture, arm swing and push-off
18:15 —Vary your route, vary your carry
21:25 — Freet Barefoot and walking culture
23:00 — The story behind Freet Barefoot
31:05 — Multi-day walks, footwear and foot strength
37:50 — Walking culture and ‘Rights to Roam’ in the UK
43:05 — Favourite Freet Barefoot customer testimonials
47:40 — Do Vibration Plates Help Lymph Drainage? (sponsored by ScreenFit™).


Books, Links and Resources:

More about Freet Barefoot
A stepwise course to Walking Well with Katy Bowman & Jill Miller


Connect, Move & Learn:

Join Our Newsletter: Movement Colored Glasses
Follow Katy on Substack
Try Katy's Virtual Studio Free for 7 days!

Made Possible By Our Wonderful Sponsors:

Earth Runners:  makers of minimalist earthing sandals designed for natural foot movement and connection to the ground— use code DNA10 for 10% off.
Freet Barefoot: creators of comfortable barefoot shoes built for natural movement, flexibility, and durability— use code DNA10 for 10% off.
Venn Design: Beautifully upholstered ball-shaped Air Chairs and floor cushions that encourage dynamic sitting
Movemate: Active standing boards with smoothly articulating wooden slats. Designed to keep you moving without interrupting your focus.
ScreenFit™: a complete online vision training program —take $200 off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT
Ikaria Design: The Soul Seat® offers height-adjustable, multi-position sitting—get 10% off new chairs and desks with code DNA10
My Happy Feet: Toe-spacing socks that gently realign toes for comfortable shoe recovery—take 20% off with code MYDNA


Thoughts/questions email us at podcast@nutritiousmovement.com
Your Voice on the Podcast: Read The Credits 


October Retreats 2026 

Too Much Sitting, "Spiky" Cholesterol, and Heart Disease 24 Jun 202600:53:24

Biomechanist Katy Bowman and biologist Dr. Jeannette Loram unpack emerging research on heart disease, inflammation, cholesterol, and arterial plaque. Inspired by a recent Scientific American article, they explore what plaque is, how and why it forms, and how blood flow patterns influence where plaque accumulates in the arteries. They discuss recent evidence that places inflammation as a foundational piece of heart disease and how the ‘spiky’ shape and structure of cholesterol in plaque has a direct role in the inflammatory pathways and immune system overreactions that occur in heart disease. 

Katy and Jeannette offer practical insights into how regular activity, varied positioning, and lifestyle choices can help support healthy arteries. They also discuss the importance of scientific curiosity, prevention over treatment, and why understanding the body's processes can inspire better self-care.


Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript


0:00 — Introduction:  the Scientific American article on heart inflammation

3:43 — Dynamic Collective

9.15 — Main takeaway: inflammation, cholesterol and heart disease

9:47 — What is plaque? 

15:33 — Why plaque forms in specific locations within arteries: wounding and blood flow 

23:12 — How cholesterol enters arterial walls  

40:00 — Why understanding the body can deepen appreciation and motivation for self-care

44:16 — Listener question: sciatic pain (sponsored by Venn Design).


Books, Links and Resources:

Science and Poetry
by Mary Midgely 

Connect, Move & Learn:

Join Our Newsletter: Movement Colored Glasses
Follow Katy on Substack
Try Katy's Virtual Studio Free for 7 days!

Made Possible By Our Wonderful Sponsors:

Venn Design: Beautifully upholstered ball-shaped Air Chairs and floor cushions that encourage dynamic sitting
My Happy Feet: Toe-spacing socks that gently realign toes for comfortable shoe recovery—take 20% off with code MYDNA
Earth Runners:  makers of minimalist earthing sandals designed for natural foot movement and connection to the ground— use code DNA10 for 10% off.
Ikaria Design: The Soul Seat® offers height-adjustable, multi-position sitting—get 10% off new chairs and desks with code DNA10
Movemate: Active standing boards with smoothly articulating wooden slats. Designed to keep you moving without interrupting your focus.
ScreenFit™: a complete online vision training program —take $200 off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT
Freet Barefoot: creators of comfortable barefoot shoes built for natural movement, flexibility, and durability— use code DNA10 for 10% off.


Thoughts/questions email us at podcast@nutritiousmovement.com
Your Voice on the Podcast: Read The Credits 


October Retreats 2026 

What Your Husband, Brother, Son, or Dad Might Need to Know About Movement10 Jun 202600:47:58

This is the Men’s Health episode in honour of Father’s Day this month.

Biomechanist Katy Bowman and biologist Dr Jeannette Loram discuss health issues more common in male bodies, including abdominal aortic aneurysms, type 2 diabetes, gout, and male pelvic health.

Drawing on anatomy, physiology, and lifestyle habits, they explore why men may be more susceptible to these conditions and offer movement and lifestyle solutions to consider. They also take a deeper look at the relationships between abdominal aortic aneurysms, pelvic health, and how chair sitting and sedentary lifestyles may affect both.

Whether you're interested in men's health or caring for the men in your life, this episode offers a fresh perspective on common health challenges through a movement lens.


Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript


0:00 — Intro and welcome.
2:40 — Conditions more common in men: abdominal aortic aneurysms, diabetes, gout, and testicular issues.
3:40 — Thanks to our sponsors: the Dynamic Collective.
6:20 — What is an abdominal aortic aneurysm?
9:33 — Why are abdominal aortic aneurysms more prevalent in men?
16:10 — Sitting as a cardiovascular risk factor.
17:07 — Testicles, chairs, and pelvic tucking.
25:20 — Waist stiffness, abdominal weakness, and pelvic floor function.
29:19 — Movement considerations for pelvic and abdominal health.
31:00 — Type 2 diabetes, muscle loss, and men’s health.
32:48 — Gout: why men are more at risk and exercise considerations.
37:30 — Listener question: male vs. female flexibility (sponsored by Ikaria Design).


Books, Links and Resources:

Rethink Your Position
by Katy Bowman 

Diabetes and Exercise: How Exactly Muscle Movement Manages Blood Sugar –– Podcast Ep 187


Connect, Move & Learn:

Join Our Newsletter: Movement Colored Glasses
Follow Katy on Substack
Try Katy's Virtual Studio Free for 7 days!

Made Possible By Our Wonderful Sponsors:

Ikaria Design: The Soul Seat® offers height-adjustable, multi-position sitting—get 10% off new chairs and desks with code DNA10
ScreenFit™: a complete online vision training program —take $200 off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT
Movemate: Active standing boards with smoothly articulating wooden slats. Designed to keep you moving without interrupting your focus.
Venn Design: Beautifully upholstered ball-shaped Air Chairs and floor cushions that encourage dynamic sitting
My Happy Feet: Toe-spacing socks that gently realign toes for comfortable shoe recovery—take 20% off with code MYDNA
Freet Barefoot: creators of comfortable barefoot shoes built for natural movement, flexibility, and durability— use code DNA10 for 10% off.
Earth Runners:  makers of minimalist earthing sandals designed for natural foot movement and connection to the ground— use code DNA10 for 10% off.


Thoughts/questions email us at podcast@nutritiousmovement.com
Your Voice on the Podcast: Read The Credits 


October Retreats 2026 

Good Vibrations: Walking, Running, Minimal Shoes & Vibration Plates27 May 202601:20:23

Biomechanist Katy Bowman and biologist Dr Jeannette Loram explore the fascinating world of vibration: the benefits and costs of impact to the body and the importance of sensing vibration in humans and other animals.

Katy and Jeannette discuss how foot impacts during walking may actually form part of the brain’s circulatory system. They also unpack the science of vibration plates and whether they are useful for muscle strength, bone health, and balance. The conversation then turns to running, exploring how it generates vibrations through the body’s soft tissues, how these vibrations may affect performance, and what runners can do about it. Finally, they share some remarkable examples of vibration sensing in animals and consider how modern lifestyles may limit this sense in humans.

The discussion on impact and contact with the ground continues with Mike Dally of Earth Runners®, creators of minimalist earthing sandals. Katy and Mike talk about the aims of minimalist footwear in reducing interference between the foot and the ground, how to adapt to minimalist sandals, and new designs in development, including an easy-to-put-on children’s sandal.

Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript

0:00 The barefoot shoe expo debrief
3:40 The Dynamic Collective
6:40 Introduction to vibrations and waves
8:22 Walking vibrations and brain health
13:26 Vibrations and bone: building bone and fracture
16:04 Soft tissue vibration during running
17:45 Vibration plates: how do they work, and are they worth it?
25:25 Running revisited
33:44 Vibration sensing in animals
40:08 Mike Dally from Earth Runners®
52:25 Over-engineering health solutions rather than removing interference
56:00 Adapting to minimalist sandals
58:40 New products coming up: user-friendly children’s sandals
1:06:45 Listener question on foot pressure issues, sponsored by Movemate



Books, Links and Resources:

An Immense World: How Animal Senses Reveal the Hidden Realms Around Us by Ed Yong
Mary Roach books
Katy’s stylish strappy shoes
How Walking Benefits The Brain
Tacoma Narrows bridge collapse
The Ins, Outs, Ups and Downs of Breast Movement
Interview with Dr Libby Hinsley: Hypermobility, Proprioception & Building Up a Bendy Body - Podcast Ep #177
Earth Runners® Sandals 

Connect, Move & Learn:

Join Our Newsletter: Movement Colored Glasses
Follow Katy on Substack
Try Katy's Virtual Studio Free for 7 days!

Made Possible By Our Wonderful Sponsors:

Movemate: Active standing boards with smoothly articulating wooden slats. Designed to keep you moving without interrupting your focus.
Venn Design: Beautifully upholstered ball-shaped Air Chairs and floor cushions that encourage dynamic sitting
Ikaria Design: The Soul Seat® offers height-adjustable, multi-position sitting—get 10% off new chairs and desks with code DNA10
Freet Barefoot: creators of comfortable barefoot shoes built for natural movement, flexibility, and durability— use code DNA10 for 10% off.
Earth Runners:  makers of minimalist earthing sandals designed for natural foot movement and connection to the ground— use code DNA10 for 10% off.
My Happy Feet: Toe-spacing socks that gently realign toes for comfortable shoe recovery—take 20% off with code MYDNA
ScreenFit™: a complete online vision training program —take $200 off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT


Thoughts/questions email us at podcast@nutritiousmovement.com
Your Voice on the Podcast: Read The Credits 


October Retreats 2026 

Pelvic Alignment: Constipation, Sacral Pain & Sexual Health13 May 202600:56:32

Biomechanist Katy Bowman speaks with physical therapist Dr Anietie (Tia) Ukpe-Wallace about pelvic health, movement, and self-care.

They discuss Tia’s recent book, Tending To Your Womb, a guide to caring for the uterus and pelvic tissues through awareness, movement, and practical self-care strategies. In this episode, Katy and Tia focus on movement-based approaches for uterine retroversion, a pelvic misalignment that can contribute to sacral pain, sciatic symptoms, and constipation.

They also explore clitoral atrophy — a reduction in tissue size, tone, and flexibility that can occur during menopause — and share movement and self-care practices to help maintain mobility and function.

Tune in and join in for a guided pelvic clock movement sequence taught by Tia.

Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript

0:00 Intro & New Dynamic Collective
6:56 Meet Dr. Tia Ukpe-Wallace
9:49 Misalignments of the uterus
15:30 Symptoms of a retroverted uterus: constipation, sacral pain & sciatica
19:55 The pelvic clock: join in with a guided practice!
27:43 Clitoral atrophy in menopause & movement-based approaches
35:24 Self-care: not indulgence, but simple body maintenance
42:25 Where to find Tia Ukpe-Wallace
46:34 Listener question on prolapse, sponsored by Earth Runners


Books, Links and Resources:

Tending to your Womb: Self-Care for Every Stage of Your Reproductive Journey, No Matter the Outcome by Anietie Ukpe-Wallace
About Tia Ukpe-Wallace
Tia on Instagram @selfcarephysio 


Connect, Move & Learn:

Join Our Newsletter: Movement Colored Glasses
Follow Katy on Substack
Try Katy's Virtual Studio Free for 7 days!

Made Possible By Our Wonderful Sponsors:

Freet Barefoot: creators of comfortable barefoot shoes built for natural movement, flexibility, and durability— use code DNA10 for 10% off.
Earth Runners:  makers of minimalist earthing sandals designed for natural foot movement and connection to the ground— use code DNA10 for 10% off.
ScreenFit™: a complete online vision training program —take $200 off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT
My Happy Feet: Toe-spacing socks that gently realign toes for comfortable shoe recovery—take 20% off with code MYDNA
Ikaria Design: The Soul Seat® offers height-adjustable, multi-position sitting—get 10% off new chairs and desks with code DNA10
Movemate: Active standing boards with smoothly articulating wooden slats. Designed to keep you moving without interrupting your focus.
Venn Design: Beautifully upholstered ball-shaped Air Chairs and floor cushions that encourage dynamic sitting


Thoughts/questions email us at podcast@nutritiousmovement.com
Your Voice on the Podcast: Read The Credits 


October Retreats 2026 

Beyond Lifespan and Healthspan: The Case for Joyspan29 Apr 202601:14:23

Biomechanist Katy Bowman speaks with gerontologist and author Dr. Kerry Burnight about her concept of joyspan—a missing piece in how we think about aging well.

We often hear about lifespan (how long we live) and healthspan (how long we stay physically well), but what about the quality of those years? Dr. Burnight introduces joyspan as our capacity to experience a meaningful, fulfilling life as we age. In this framework, joy is not simple happiness, but a deeper sense of wellbeing that can coexist with challenge, grief, and change.

Katy and Dr. Burnight explore the Joyspan Matrix—Give, Connect, Adapt, and Grow—and how these actions enable us to thrive as we age. Rather than viewing aging as inevitable decline they discuss aging as development, the positives of aging and how to step into eldership.

Katy also speaks with our sponsor, Sohail Shariff of Movemate, creators of a unique dynamic wooden standing board that provides continuous, wave-like movement in the body while you are working at your desk or at home.

They discuss how the board supports musculoskeletal health, while also improving focus, creativity, and calm—reducing fatigue and the mental boredom and stagnation that comes from prolonged stillness. They also explore the role of play in the design, and how a serious problem—sedentary behavior—can be addressed in a way that is engaging, enjoyable, and even joyful.


Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript


00:00 – Lifespan, Healthspan… and Joyspan

01:20 – Dynamic Collective Sponsors

02:30 – Dr Kerry Burnight Explains Joyspan: The Science of Thriving As You Age

09:40 – The Joyspan Matrix: Grow, Connect, Adapt, Give

19:30 – Giving, Purpose & Becoming an Elder (Rethinking Aging)

42:00 – Meet Movemate: A Dynamic Standing Board for Work and Play

46:00 – How Movemate Works: Movement, Feeling & Physical Benefits

49:15 – Cognitive & Emotional Effects of the Movemate Board

54:00 – Play & Solving Sedentary Behavior With Enjoyable Movement Tools
1:05:20 – Listener question: resolving amenorrhea, sponsored by Ikaria Design 



Books, Links and Resources:

Joyspan: The Art and Science of Thriving in Life’s Second Half
– Dr Kerry Burnight
 About Dr Kerry Burnight (gerontologist, author of Joyspan)
 Dr Kerry Burnight on Instagram

Movemate – Dynamic Active Standing Board for Work & Play
Movemate on Instagram



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October Retreats 2026 

Determining if you're FRAIL (or "Pre-Frail") and What to do About it17 Apr 202600:54:40

Frailty isn’t just something that happens “later”; it’s a gradual loss of resilience that can begin much earlier than most people think. Katy Bowman and Dr. Jeannette Loram unpack what frailty and pre-frailty mean biologically. They explore the five key hallmarks used to identify frailty, including walking speed and grip strength, and how a large proportion of people in their 30s and 40s already fall on the spectrum of pre-frailty.

The conversation also explores the muscle–gut connection, explaining how frailty is influenced by exercise, diet, and the health of your microbiome. Katy and Jeannette also discuss the potential for rapid-onset frailty linked to the use of GLP-1 medications.

Most importantly, frailty can be reversed and this episode focuses on what you can do. From simple ways to improve resilience through movement, nutrition, and rest, to understanding how your attitude toward aging might influence your resilience

Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript


00:00 – Intro + Sponsors  

01:30 – What Is Frailty (and Pre-Frailty)  

03:00 – The 5 Hallmarks of Frailty  

10:50 – How Pre-Frailty Can Start in Your 30s  

12:40 – Muscle–Gut Connection & the Microbiome  

19:40 – Exercise as “Fuel” for Your Microbiome  

27:30 – Supplementation and the Psychology of Change  

29:50 – GLP-1 Medication & Rapid-Onset Frailty  

42:20 – Listener Question: Finding Glute Strength (Sponsored by Peluva)


Resources and Books Mentioned:

Joyspan by Kerry Burnight 

Frailty Sets In Far Earlier Than You’d Expect But You Can Reverse It, by David Cox in the New Scientist 

Frailty and pre-frailty in middle-aged and older adults and its association with multimorbidity and mortality: a prospective analysis of 493 737 biobank participants by Hanlon et al 2018

Evidence For The Contribution Of Gut Microbiota To Age-Related Anabolic Resistance by Watson et al 2021

Semaglutide Therapy and Accelerated Sarcopenia in Older Adults With Type-2 Diabetes: A 24-Month Retrospective Cohort Study by Ren et al 2025


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Smart Playrooms: Beautiful playroom design and movement-rich equipment—save 10% on monkey bars and rock-wall items with code DNA10
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October Retreats 2026 

Movement & Disability: Stacking Movement and Education for a Meaningful life02 Apr 202601:08:17

Inspired by a moving letter from a parent of an adult son with autism, biomechanist Katy Bowman and biologist Dr. Jeannette Loram explore the relationship between movement, health, and quality of life for people with disabilities.

They are joined by Kristina Montgomery, a special education teacher at a school for children and young adults affected by autism, and a behavior analyst working with Essential for Living, a curriculum designed for those with learning difficulties. Through her work, Kristina teaches an event-based approach to learning—one that moves away from abstract, isolated skills and instead “stacks” goals within meaningful, naturally occurring events. This approach supports not only skill development, but also health, social inclusion, and caregiver sustainability.

Together, they discuss the importance of choosing activities that are meaningful to the learner both in the moment and for future independence, and the shift from instructing a task to modeling it alongside the student. Kristina also shares how powerful movement stacking has been in her work, improving both the happiness and wellbeing of the people she supports.

This episode is a powerful reminder that movement truly is for every body, and that by embedding it into daily life, caregiving, parenting, and teaching can become more sustainable, and joyful for everyone involved.

Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript

00:00 – A Letter from a Parent of an Autistic Son
04:50 – Movement & Disability: Movement is for Every Body
07:57 – Podcast Sponsors
09:44 – Introduction to Kristina Montgomery
14:00 – Essential for Living: Life Skills Curriculum
15:58 – What Are Functional Life Skills?
19:45 – Movement, Health, and Wellness in Special Education
23:05 – What and Why is Movement Stacking?
37:00 – Designing Environments to Promote Movement and Education
44:12 – Event-Based Teaching Course
53:46 – Listener Question: Balance Training with a Sore Knee

Resources, Books and Courses  Mentioned:

Kristina Montgomery
Learn more about Kristina and her work in special education and behavior analysis.

Event-Based Learning Course (Essential for Living)
A practical course on designing special education goals using event-based learning and movement stacking.
Includes 20% discount for listeners.

Essential for Living: Introduction Course
An overview of the Essential for Living curriculum and its core principles.
Includes 20% discount for listeners.

Grow Wild Book Club – Katy Bowman
A free book club for therapists and parents of neurodivergent children.


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Smart Playrooms: Beautiful playroom design and movement-rich equipment—save 10% on monkey bars and rock-wall items with code DNA10.
Movemate: Active standing boards with smoothly articulating wooden slats. Designed to keep you moving without interrupting your focus.
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October Retreats 2026 

Amenorrhea, Energy Deficiency & the Female Athlete25 Mar 202600:53:05

We dive into the often-overlooked topic of amenorrhea: the absence of menstruation. Biomechanist Katy Bowman and biologist Dr. Jeannette Loram unpack the science with a focus on Functional Hypothalamic Amenorrhea (FHA) linked to energy deficiency in athletes. They explore how intense training and and sport pressures around leanness or weight can disrupt regular hormonal signals, affecting long-term bone density, cardiovascular health, and performance. They also discuss the original concept of the Female Athlete Triad (low energy availability, menstrual dysfunction, and low bone mineral density) and its evolution into RED-S (Relative Energy Deficiency in Sport), a more holistic model encompassing many aspects of health and wellbeing.

The conversation expands into evolutionary perspectives, comparing Western menstrual experiences—from menarche to menopause—with those of hunter-gatherer populations like the Hadza, and questioning what “normal” really means. Ultimately, this episode reframes intense athletics as a nuanced practice that must be supported by adequate nutrition and recovery.


Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript


00:00 – Intro & Sponsors

02:45 – What Is Amenorrhea?

05:40 – Primary vs Secondary Amenorrhea

09:00 – Functional Hypothalamic Amenorrhea (FHA): Energy deficiency and hormonal suppression

11:10 – Female Athlete Triad → RED-S: Evolution of understanding in sports science

21:30 – The Hadza perspective: menarche to menopause

25:25 – Negative consequences of amenorrhea: Bone Health  

29:15 – IUD induced amenorrhea 

37:00 – Historical and modern timelines for menarche compared to the Hadza 

50:45 – Closing thoughts on ancient humans 

Links & Research Mentioned:

Substack article that prompted this episode 

Dr Jen Gunter’s article on the hormonal IUD and bone health 

Foraging & Menstruation in the Hadza of Tanzania 

Comparison between The Female Athlete Triad & RED-S


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October Retreats 2026 

Nine Minutes to a Healthier Heart: Vigorous Exercise, Menopause & Hypertension11 Mar 202600:58:08

Biomechanist Katy Bowman and biologist Dr. Jeannette Loram explain how just nine minutes of vigorous activity can make a measurable difference for your cardiovascular health. They break down what counts as vigorous exercise, how to gauge it “old skool” without complicated gadgets, and how much is needed based on the movement patterns of the heart-healthy Hadza. Plus, they share nine practical ways to fit short bursts of higher-intensity movement into your day, from running stairs and kitchen dance parties to treading water in a pool.

The episode also explores a personal experience related to the menopause transition, including the onset of salt sensitivity, water retention, and hypertension. Katy and Jeannette discuss the link between estrogen and salt management, explaining why the loss of estrogen can make women more susceptible to salt-induced high blood pressure—and what lifestyle shifts can help protect heart health.


Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript

00:00 — Introduction & Sponsors
01:50 — Heart Health and Midlife Movement
03:45 — What Counts as Vigorous Exercise?
07:00 — How Much Vigorous Do We Actually Need? Insights from the Hadza 
12:30 — Nine Minutes of Vigorous Movement: Practical Ideas to fit into your life
25:00 — Listener Question: Vigorous Movement in the Pool
36:20 — Warming Up for Vigorous Movement Snacks 
41:30 — Salt Sensitivity, Menopause & Blood Pressure


Links & Research Mentioned:

Physical Activity Patterns and Biomarkers of Cardiovascular Disease Risk in Hunter Gatherers 
by Raichlen et al (2017) 

Lifestyle and Patterns of Physical Activity in Hadza Foragers by Sayre et al (2023)

Association of wearable device-measured vigorous intermittent lifestyle physical activity with mortality by Stamatakis et al (2022) 

Postmenopausal Salt Sensitivity and Hypertension by Kim et al (2014)

Estrogen negatively regulates the renal epithelial sodium channel (ENaC) by promoting Derlin-1 expression and AMPK activation by Zhang et al (2019) 

Salt Sensitivity of Blood Pressure in Women by Barris et al (2023)


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My Happy Feet: Toe-spacing socks that gently realign toes for comfortable recovery—take 20% off with code MYDNA.
Venn Design: Beautifully upholstered ball-shaped Air Chairs that encourage dynamic sitting.
Ikaria Design: The Soul Seat® offers height-adjustable, multi-position sitting—get 10% off new chairs and desks with code DNA10.
Smart Playrooms: Beautiful playroom design and movement-rich equipment—save 10% on monkey bars and rock-wall items with code DNA10.

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October Retreats 2026 

Feel Better Knees: Anatomy and Loads11 Feb 202600:51:30

Biomechanist Katy Bowman and biologist Dr. Jeannette Loram explore the prevalence and underlying causes of knee issues, from popping and noisy knees to everyday pain and osteoarthritis. The knee is not just a simple hinge, and Katy explains its anatomy using a helpful “cube” model that includes bones, ligaments, cartilage, and the meniscus. Together, they clarify the difference between osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis and examine how movement patterns influence the forces and loads placed across the knee joint. Katy and Jeannette share practical strategies for changing knee loading through gait retraining, along with tools to improve muscle strength, stability, and proprioception to help protect ligaments and cartilage. They also discuss why women tend to experience more knee problems due to hormonal and biomechanical factors, and why prehab and post-surgery exercise training play a critical role in achieving better outcomes after knee surgery.

Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript

00:00 Introduction: The prevalence of knee issues and arthritis
02:00 Why movement and position matter for knee health
04:08 Sponsors: The Dynamic Collective
05:58 The knee as a “cube,” not just a hinge
10:58 Ligaments vs muscles: Why ligaments are seat belts, not brakes
14:20 Cartilage and the knee meniscus: Function and damage
18:00 Changing movement patterns for knee pain: Gait retraining
24:21 Noisy knees explained
26:22 Knee instability: Strength, proprioception, and hypermobility
33:07 Listener question: Why do women have more knee issues? Hormones and Q-angle
46:40 Prehab and post-surgery knee care


Links & Resources Mentioned:
The Pelvic List 


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Ikaria Design: The Soul Seat® offers height-adjustable, multi-position sitting—get 10% off new chairs and desks with code DNA10.
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October Retreats 2026 

Move Smarter, Not Harder: Three Movement Plan Must-Haves29 Jan 202600:43:23

Set yourself up for success: how to create a sustainable movement plan. We walk through their own real-life movement plans to explore the three things every movement plan needs: a clear focus, a small set of daily “ride-or-die” exercises linked to that focus, and movement integrated across the many domains of life—not just exercise.

This episode offers a practical, honest look at how to build a sustainable movement plan that actually works, highlighting flexible planning and simple environmental makeovers that reduce resistance and make movement easier to return to—again and again.

Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript

00:12 Movement Plan Introduction
00:45 Resources for Your Movement Plan
01:30 Sponsor Acknowledgements
02:50 The Three Movement Plan Must-Haves
03:50 The First Essential: A Movement Focus You Re-Evaluate
06:25 Daily “Ride-or-Die” Exercises
10:30 Psychological Flexibility: Why Time Targets Often Backfire
19:18 Containers for Movement: Exploring the SLOTH Model
20:13 Sleep, Repetitive Positioning, and Supportive Rest
23:16 Leisure Activities
26:28 Incorporating Movement Into Your Occupation
28:55 Transportation and Home Makeovers
33:00 Listener Question: Underuse vs. Overuse of Body Parts

Books Mentioned:

My Perfect Movement Plan by Katy Bowman

Links & Resources Mentioned:
Download a printable Movement Plan
Hamstring curls with a ball
Side bend on the ball
Ball push-ups


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Venn Design: Beautifully upholstered ball-shaped Air Chairs that encourage dynamic sitting.
Movemate: Active standing boards with smoothly articulating wooden slats. Designed to keep you moving without interrupting your focus.
Ikaria Design: The Soul Seat® offers height-adjustable, multi-position sitting—get 10% off new chairs and desks with code DNA10.
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October Retreats 2026 

Winter Movement Science: Cold Weather Exercise, Heart Health, and Staying Active Indoors14 Jan 202601:02:29

How cold affects muscles, blood flow, and cardiovascular risk—plus practical ways to keep moving safely indoors and out. 

Biomechanist Katy Bowman and biologist Dr. Jeannette Loram explore how cold air and cold water affect muscle function, blood flow, heart rate, and blood pressure during exercise. They unpack how vasoconstriction increases cardiovascular demand, and why activities like snow shoveling and cold-water swimming carry specific risks. The episode also offers practical strategies for continuing to move safely outdoors throughout the winter months.

Even when winter keeps many of us indoors, movement doesn’t have to disappear. Karri Bowen-Poole of Smart Playrooms joins Katy to discuss how indoor spaces can be designed to encourage movement for kids, teens, and adults. They share ideas for simple, versatile equipment that supports strength, coordination, and play, explain why visible and aesthetically pleasing setups matter, and describe how rotating movement tools over time helps sustain interest as needs and abilities evolve.

Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript

00:14 Discussing Cold Weather and Its Impact 

01:19 The Dynamic Collective 

03:07 Practical Tips for Exercising in Cold Weather 

03:43 The Importance of Balance, Slip Training, and Other Winter Exercise Tips 

10:45 Cardiovascular System, Cold Weather, and Snow Shoveling 

21:52 Cold Water Immersion and Its Effects 

29:46 Listener question: Hallux Limitus and Foot Issues 

36:02 Introducing Smart Playrooms 


LINKS & RESOURCES MENTIONED

Katy’s 2025 Advent featuring Venn Designs Air Chairs

Smart Playrooms x Move Your DNA equipment picks
Smart Playrooms setting up a teen room

Smart Playrooms Sport Court section


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Movemate: Active standing boards with smoothly articulating wooden slats. Designed to keep you moving without interrupting your focus.
Ikaria Design: The Soul Seat® offers height-adjustable, multi-position sitting—get 10% off new chairs and desks with code DNA10.
Venn Design: Beautifully upholstered ball-shaped Air Chairs that encourage dynamic sitting.
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October Retreats 2026 

2025 Recap + The Rules for a Stronger 202631 Dec 202501:11:52

As we wrap up 2025, we’re doing a shortened version of our annual recap—part reflection, part intention. Katy and Jeannette share their biggest movement wins, smartest health decisions, and one-word themes for the year, then look ahead to what they’re prioritizing in 2026 (strength, power, simplicity, and efficiency). 

Then we distill the past year’s episodes into a clear set of movement rules for 2026 including: movement works locally (not just systemically), the 5 S’s of aging (strong, steady, straight, supple, swift) and the reminder that there will always be something else… move anyway.

If you only listen to one episode to catch up on the year and set your movement intentions for the next, make it this one.


Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript

06:25 Katy and Jeannette review 2025 and look ahead to 2026
20:40 The Dynamic Collective
22:36 Movement Rule Number One: Movement works locally, not just systemically
32:05 Movement Rule Number Two: You should be getting the 5 S's of aging
38:46 Movement Rule Number Three: It's not the mode, it's the load
43:13 Movement Rule Number Four: The upward climb – why you need to exercise more as you age
51:29 Movement Rule Number Five: Hearts are like hip joints, or why you need to do more for your heart than just cardio
56:01 Movement Rule Number Six: There will always be something else – move anyway

LINKS & RESOURCES MENTIONED

My Perfect Movement Plan by Katy Bowman
I Know I Should Exercise But... by Diana Hill & Katy Bowman 


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Smart Playrooms: Beautiful playroom design and movement-rich equipment—save 10% on monkey bars and rock-wall items with code DNA10.
Movemate: Active standing boards with smoothly articulating wooden slats. Designed to keep you moving without interrupting your focus.
Ikaria Design: The Soul Seat® offers height-adjustable, multi-position sitting—get 10% off new chairs and desks with code DNA10.


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October Retreats 2026 

You’re Not Over the Hill, You’re in the Valley: Why Exercise Must Increase With Age17 Dec 202501:13:02

Katy offers an aging reframe: in middle age, you are not “over the hill”—you are actually at the bottom of a valley, and staying strong and healthy means choosing to go uphill on purpose. Katy and Jeannette unpack the difference between chronological age and biological aging, why modern life may be speeding up the aging process, and how movement and exercise positively influence the cellular “hallmarks of aging.” They explore why exercise needs to increase with age (even when life gets busier and energy feels lower), and how reframing discomfort can make consistency possible—so you can extend not just your lifespan, but your healthspan, too.

Katy also speaks with Pack Matthews of Ikaria Design (creator of the Soul Seat) about “active sitting” and why our rest positions matter as we age. Pack shares his personal origin story—using floor-sitting and dynamic postures to counter arthritis. They also preview the upcoming Soul Seat Mini for the smaller people in your life and explore its role in dynamic classrooms.

Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript

00:03:00 — Flipping the visual: “over the hill” → “in the valley”

00:04:00 — The Dynamic Collective

00:06:00 — Chronological age vs biological aging & lifespan vs healthspan 

00:08:35 — What may be accelerating aging: obesity, diet, sedentary behavior, stress

00:12:00 — How “biological age” is measured + hallmarks of aging
00:18:00 — Why exercise must increase with age: choosing uphill (progressive overload)
00:36:00 — Listener question: handedness across humans, animals, and even plants
00:47:00 — Interview: Pack Matthews (Ikaria Design) on the Soul Seat + active sitting 


LINKS & RESOURCES MENTIONED

Handedness in Animals and Plants

Ikaria Design 

Soul Seat Instagram 

Soul Seat Facebook 


CONNECT, MOVE & LEARN

Movement Advent 2025: 24 Ball Exercises to Balance Tech Stress
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Venn Design: Stylish ball-shaped Air Chairs that encourage dynamic sitting—featuring in our 2025 Movement Advent!
Smart Playrooms: Beautiful playroom design and movement-rich equipment—save 10% on monkey bars and rock-wall items with code DNA10.
Movemate: Active standing boards with smoothly articulating wooden slats. Designed to keep you moving without interrupting your focus.


Thoughts/questions email us at podcast@nutritiousmovement.com
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October Retreats 2026 

How Does Exercise Move Your DNA? 03 Dec 202500:43:31

Katy & Jeannette dive into the question: can movement really change your DNA? Using clear analogies—like libraries, recipes, and sticky notes—they unpack what DNA is, how gene expression works, and what we really mean by epigenetics (the “on top of” changes that influence which genes get used). They explore how exercise can turn the “volume up or down” on metabolic genes, pro-inflammatory markers, and stress protein genes, and how many of these changes involve altering the arrangement and access to DNA within your cells.

Using another accessible analogy of spider webs, they explore how forces on cells (through mechanotransduction) act as a powerful, non-chemical “nutrient” that can literally move your DNA and alter epigenetics and gene expression. This is why exercise and everyday movement not only have systemic benefits but also site-specific effects—and why the distribution of movement throughout your body matters just as much as how much you move.


Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript

00:00:23 “You can’t change DNA”: Katy’s green-room story with a physician who insists DNA is fixed.
00:03:33 What is DNA? Jeanette’s library-and-recipe analogy explaining DNA and gene expression.
00:06:11 Genes as volume controls: How exercise turns gene activity up or down rather than rewriting DNA.
00:12:02 Chromatin & compacted DNA: Archival library shelves as a metaphor for genes you rarely “reach for.”
00:18:54 Mechanotransduction & spider webs: How movement plucks the cell’s “web” and signals the nucleus.
00:25:36 Epigenetics explained: Sticky notes, covered keyholes, and how markers sit “on top” of DNA.
00:29:28 Epigenetic memory & trained vs. untrained leg study: Why movement has site-specific effects.
00:32:17 Listener Question (sponsored by Movemate): Do organs such as the brain, liver, and kidney need specific movements?


BOOKS & RESEARCH MENTIONED

Move Your DNA book by Katy Bowman 

Epigenetic profile of trained vs untrained leg  

Walking & blood circulation to the brain

Physical Activity, Gut Motility & Constipation


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Movement Advent 2025: 24 Ball Exercises to Balance Tech Stress
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Ikaria Design: The Soul Seat® offers height-adjustable, multi-position sitting—get 10% off new chairs and desks with code DNA10.
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October Retreats 2026 

Exercise And Recovery: How Rest Makes You Stronger19 Nov 202501:03:23

Katy and Jeannette explore why proper recovery is just as important as your workouts. They explain how short-term recovery between repetitions or intervals restores homeostasis—the steady state of your cells—allowing you to continue a training session effectively. Over the longer term, recovery after vigorous activity supports tissue repair and adaptation, helping your muscles and connective tissues strengthen. Without sufficient recovery, training plateaus can occur, and your risk of illness may increase. Finally, they discuss rest as an essential part of recovery and share strategies such as cross-training, stretching, and massage to support the body’s repair and adaptation processes.


Katy talks with Jim Leuty of My Happy Feet Alignment Socks, a simple and effective recovery tool that gently stretches and realigns toes while you rest! Toe-spacers are part of the recovery routine for performers like Taylor Swift, who dance in high heels—and they’re helpful for everyone, particularly if you spend long hours on your feet or struggle with bunions or foot pain. Jim also shares his newest products, including kid sizes and complete foot care gift kits.


Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript

1:34 — Introducing the Dynamic Collective Sponsors
3:14 — What Is Recovery? Short-Term vs. Long-Term
6:29 — Post-Workout Fatigue: Understanding What’s Still “Off” in Your Body
9:19 — Rest vs. Recovery: Why They’re Not the Same
13:12 — How Recovery After Vigorous Exercise Supports Adaptation and Strength
17:17 — Intensity, Training Plateaus, and the Importance of Variability
26:31 — Strategies to Boost Recovery: Sleep, Cross-Training, Massage, and Stretching
30:01 — Listener Question: How Does Altitude & Plane Travel Affect The Body?
39:44 — Introducing My Happy Feet Alignment Socks
41:03 — Socks vs. Toe Spacers: What’s the Difference?
46:19 — Real Results, Testimonials, and Taylor Swift’s High-Heel Recovery
49:09 — Gifting Foot Care Items and New Products


ITEMS, BOOKS & RESOURCES MENTIONED

My Happy Feet Alignment Socks 

International orders My Happy Feet Global 

Super Foot Care Kit 

Simple Steps To Foot Pain Relief by Katy Bowman

CONNECT, MOVE & LEARN

Join Our Newsletter: Movement Colored Glasses
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MADE POSSIBLE BY OUR WONDERFUL SPONSORS:


Ikaria Design: The Soul Seat® offers height-adjustable, multi-position sitting—get 10% off new chairs and desks with code DNA10.
Movemate: Active standing boards with smoothly articulating wooden slats. Designed to keep you moving without interrupting your focus.
Smart Playrooms: Beautiful playroom design and movement-rich equipment—save 10% on monkey bars and rock-wall items with code DNA10.
Peluva: Five-toe minimalist shoes that move like you do—take 15% off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT.
My Happy Feet: Toe-spacing socks that gently realign toes for comfortable recovery—take 20% off with code MYDNA.
Venn Design: Stylish ball-shaped Air Chairs that encourage dynamic sitting—enjoy 20% off Nov 17–26 with code MOVEMENTREVOLUTION.


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October Retreats 2026 

Parenting a Spicy Child? How to Use Movement to Find Calm and Connection12 Nov 202501:14:50

What does it mean to raise — or be — a “spicy one”? In this deeply honest and energizing conversation, Katy Bowman and author Mary Van Geffen unpack what it’s like to parent strong-willed, big-feeling kids (and stay sane while doing it). They discuss how movement can support self-regulation and co-regulation, helping both parent and child navigate intensity with compassion and humor. Together, they look at the role of movement before, during, and after heated moments — as well as the art of knowing when to walk away. This episode offers practical wisdom for growing your “calm muscle” and showing up as the safest person in the room.


Jeannette chats with inventor, designer, and athlete Tyler Benner of Venn Design — the creative mind behind movement-friendly furniture like the Air Chair and the revolutionary barefoot cycling shoe. They explore Tyler’s “genius energy” and how movement awareness informs everything he creates, from furniture to archery tools and innovative footwear.

Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript

EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:


0:00 – Meet Mary Van Geffen – Parenting insights for “Spicy Ones”

0:05 – What is a “Spicy One”? – Understanding strong-willed, big-feeling kids

0:07 – Regulation & Co-Regulation – How parents and kids navigate intensity together

0:10 – Contagious Emotions & Training your ‘Calm’ Muscle– Mirror neurons in action

0:14 – Quick Regulation Tools – Breathing, sensing, and self-talk

0:19 – Move to Regulate – Using movement before, during, and after heated moments

0:37 – Massage & Connection – Diffusing tension with touch

0:52 – Mary’s Resources – Books, classes, and meditations

0:53 – Meet Tyler Benner & Venn Design – Movement-friendly furniture and innovative tools

0:54 – Dynamic Furniture – Air Chairs and floor cushions that encourage motion

0:57 – Genius Energy & Archery – Aligning bones for power and precision

1:04 – Tyler’s Shot Trainer – Archery form and physics made simple

1:07 – Barefoot Cycling Shoes – The first foot-shaped cycling shoes designed for comfort and performance

BOOKS & RESEARCH MENTIONED

Parenting A Spicy One: A comprehensive Guide for Raising a Deep-Feeling and Wonderfully Strong-Willed Kid by Mary Van Geffen
Move Your DNA by Katy Bowman
"Movement Hunger" Signals by Katy Bowman

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OUR SPONSOR

Venn Design makes gorgeous, movement-friendly furniture that turns your home into a space that inspires you to move. Strong Feet Athletics’ barefoot cycling shoes give your feet freedom, comfort, and power—say goodbye to cramped toes!

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October Retreats 2026 

How To Solve The "I Don't Have Time To Exercise" Problem22 Oct 202501:08:02

I don’t have time to exercise.” Sound familiar? In this episode, Katy Bowman talks with clinical psychologist and author Dr. Diana Hill about one of the most common barriers to movement—and why it’s really an issue of energy management and prioritization, not time. Drawing from her books Wise Effort and I Know I Should Exercise, But... Dr. Hill shares how recognizing “choice points” throughout your day can help you move past procrastination and toward the exercise you truly want to do. 

Through practical psychology and real-life examples, Katy and Diana explore how to recognize your stalling loops, reduce transition friction, and align your daily movement habits with your values and genius energy. You’ll learn compassionate, doable strategies for getting unstuck—whether it’s setting your sport shoes out the night before, reframing movement as energy renewal, or aligning movement with your relationships. This episode offers fresh insight and motivation for anyone who wants to move more and make exercise feel possible again.

Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript

EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

07:40 – Wise Effort: Using your energy in alignment with your values

08:10 – Genius Energy: Recognizing your unique strengths
12:44 – Overcoming “I Don’t Have Time to Exercise” with wise effort
15:40 – Stalling Behavior: How to recognize and manage it
20:03 – Productive Procrastination: Turning stalling energy into productive movement
27:12 – Choice Point Tool: Decision moments to redirect energy toward exercise
32:47 – Supporting Your Future Self: Setting up routines and contexts that help you stay active
36:10 – Relationship Map: Aligning movement goals, energy, and relationships
45:38 – Movement, Community, and Celebrations: Engaging others in activity
49:58 – Energy Audit for Decision Making: Four questions to guide your choices
57:02 – Listener Question: Floor sleeping and neck tension

BOOKS & RESEARCH MENTIONED

I Know I Should Exercise But... 44 Reasons We Don’t Move and How to Get Over Them by Diana Hill & Katy Bowman
Wise Effort: How to Focus Your Genius Energy on What Matters Most by Diana Hill  

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October Retreats 2026 

Want to Stay Strong as You Age? Add Speed to What You Already Do08 Oct 202500:55:46

As we age, maintaining muscle power—not just strength—is key to staying independent, quick, and injury-free. In this episode, Katy and Jeannette explain the difference between strength and power, and why adding speed or intensity to the movements you're already doing—like walking, climbing stairs, or getting up from a chair—can make all the difference. From stair climbing to pickleball to plyometrics, learn practical ways to build power and maintain independence for years to come.

They share practical ways to train power with (or without) an overhaul to your routine, and Katy chats with masters athlete and Peluva co-founder Brad Kearns about maintaining explosive strength after 60. Hear how Brad shifted from endurance to high jump, why minimalist shoes can support aging feet, and how smarter movement helps you age better.


Enhanced Show Notes & Full Transcript

CHAPTERS

00:02:15 - Power - the definitions 

00:06:10 - The Dynamic Collective 

00:12:05 - Why Power is Important as You Get Older 

00:21:15 - Listener Question about Plyometrics brought to you by Smart Playrooms 

00:31:30 - Interview with power athlete Brad Kearns of Peluva Footwear 

 
BOOKS & RESEARCH MENTIONED

My Perfect Movement Plan by Katy Bowman
Whole Body Barefoot by Katy Bowman
ACSM’s Health & Fitness Journal Special Edition on Power 

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Venn Design, beautiful floor cushions and ball seats that keep you moving at home or at the office
Sweet Skins, organic hemp and cotton clothing that is stylish, flexible and designed to move with you, take 20% off with code Movement20
Peluva, Five-toe minimalist sports shoes ideal for walking and higher impact activities. Take 15% off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT
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October Retreats 2026 

Exercise Pills Explained: Hope or Hype? 26 Sep 202500:46:35

Katy Bowman and Jeannette Loram dig into the science—and the hype—around so-called “exercise pills.” They unpack what these drugs do at the molecular level, what they can—and can’t—mimic about exercise, and who might benefit—from elite athletes to people with disabilities or chronic illness. 

The conversation goes beyond physiology into questions of culture, psychology, and even the future of sport—where performance-enhancing technologies are blurring the lines between natural and engineered human potential.

Enhanced Show Notes & Full Transcript

CHAPTERS

0:03:12 The Dynamic Collective 

0:04:28 – How Do Exercise Pills Work?

0:06:50 – Exercise Pills, Skeletal Muscle targets and ‘Enhanced’ Sport Performance

0:12:30 – Who Might Benefit from Exercise Pills?
0:14:08 – Why Pills Can’t Replace All The Effects of Exercise
0:24:26 – Can Exercise Pills Close the Health Gap? And Why Are We Failing To Exercise Enough?
0:34:26 – Beyond Blood Panels: What Pills Miss About Movement
0:36:56 – Listener Question brought to you by Venn Design  

 
RESEARCH MENTIONED

Mimicking Exercise: What Matters Most and Where To Next? Hawley et al (2021)
Exercise pills for cardiometabolic health cannot mimic the exercise milieu Plaza-Florido et al (2025)

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Smart Playrooms, design and products to keep you and your kids engaged and active at home, take 10% off monkey bars, rock wall panels and holds with code DNA10
Earth Runners, minimalist sandals that mimic being truly barefoot through their grounding technology, take 10% off with code DNA10
Peluva, Five-toe minimalist sports shoes ideal for walking and higher impact activities. Take 15% off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT
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October Retreats 2026 

Exercise and Strong Skin: Are Calluses a Problem or Essential for Strength?10 Sep 202501:08:29

Katy Bowman and Jeannette Loram explore skin strength, focusing on what a callus is, how calluses form on the hands and feet, and how it affects circulation. They also discuss the pros and cons of calluses, comparing them to a weight belt for your skin—reinforcing, protecting, and ultimately enabling your body to do more.

They share personal stories—from rowing and kayaking to gardening—highlighting how it's often skin, not muscles, that limits activity. Katy also chats with Karri Bowen-Poole, founder of Smart Playrooms, about designing home spaces that promote hanging, build skin strength, and support kids’ physical and cognitive development. They cover equipment ideas, dynamic home design tips, and draw inspiration from Ninja Warrior athletes.

Enhanced Show Notes & Full Transcript

CHAPTERS 

00:04:30 - The Dynamic Collective 

00:08:20 - What is a Callus? And the Listener Question on calluses & circulation brought to you by Sweet Skins 

00:22:30 - Updated insights about the Callus, skin strength and its relationship to whole-body movement  

00:35:25 - Skin Tissue and Thoughtful Progression

00:42:00 - Interview with Karri Bowen-Poole, founder of Smart Playrooms


BOOKS & RESEARCH PAPERS

Move Your DNA by Katy Bowman
Simple Steps to Foot Pain Relief by Katy Bowman
Callus Formation by Kim et al (2010)
Blood Flow In The Skin in relation to temperature and pressure by J Petrofsky (2012)
Foot Callus and Tactile Sensitivity by Holowka et al (2019) - Daniel Lieberman group

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Venn Design, beautiful floor cushions and ball seats that keep you moving at home or at the office
Smart Playrooms
, design and products to keep you and your kids engaged and active at home, take 10% off monkey bars, rock wall panels and holds with code DNA10
Earth Runners, minimalist sandals that mimic being truly barefoot through their grounding technology, take 10% off with code DNA10
Sweet Skins, organic hemp and cotton clothing that is stylish, flexible and designed to move with you, take 20% off with code Movement20
Ikaria Design, creators of the Soul Seat®, a height adjustable chair that allows you to sit in diverse shapes including cross-legged, take 10% of new inventory with code DNA10


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October Retreats 2026 

Diabetes and Exercise: How Exactly Muscle Movement Manages Blood Sugar20 Aug 202501:14:59

In this episode, Katy Bowman and Jeannette Loram dive into the fascinating relationship between blood sugar, diet, and movement. They unpack how the body regulates blood sugar, what happens when this process breaks down in Type I and Type II diabetes, and why different kinds of activity play such a big role in prevention and management.

Katy and Jeannette explain how contracting muscles can pull glucose directly into working cells during exercise—a powerful but site-specific effect—and how long-term training reshapes muscle to take up glucose more efficiently.

They also compare the blood sugar benefits of endurance exercise, resistance training, HIIT, stretching, and even light daily movement. Along the way, they highlight two key scenarios: insulin resistance linked to excess weight and inflammation, versus insulin resistance driven by low muscle mass in people with normal weight. For the latter, they stress why resistance training—or “big body work”—is especially essential.

Enhanced Show Notes & Full Transcript

CHAPTERS 

0:06:00 - Definitions 

0:16:00 - The Dynamic Collective 

0:17:00 - You Can’t Exercise Off Diabetes 

0:20:00 - Muscle is the Key Tissue (and the Liver)

0:36:30 - Stretching & Light Activity 

0:47:00 - Exercise Modality for Blood Sugar Regulation

0:54:25 - Listener Question on Lupus brought to you by Peluva 

1:09:09 - Blood Sugar Spikes During Exercise

BOOKS & RESEARCH PAPERS

My Perfect Movement Plan by Katy Bowman
I know I should Exercise, But... by Diana Hill & Katy Bowman
Exercise and GLUT4
by Flores-Opazo et al (2020) 

Mechanisms of endurance and resistance exercise in type 2 diabetes by Zhao et al (2025) 
Sedentary behaviour as a mediator of type 2 diabetes by Hamilton et al (2015) 

Impact of reduced sitting time or increasing sit-to-stand transitions on blood pressure and glucose regulation in Postmenopausal women by Hartman et al (2025) 

The impact of standing desks on cardiometabolic and vascular health by Bodker et al (2021)

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Venn Design, beautiful floor cushions and ball seats that keep you moving at home or at the office
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October Retreats 2026 

Can Exercise Fix Aging Eyes? 06 Aug 202500:59:50

Neuro-optometrist Dr. Appelbaum breaks down the crucial difference between eyesight—what you can see—and vision—how your brain interprets what you see and turns it into action. Together, they explore the striking parallels between physical and visual health, highlighting how prolonged screen time and visual inactivity can stiffen our eye muscles just like sedentary habits stiffen our joints. Focusing on screens all day is like clenching your fist nonstop—leading to eye strain, headaches, and long-term issues like poor eye coordination, which can affect depth perception, balance, and even increase the risk of falls.

The conversation covers everything from visual tics and dry eyes to how vision is connected to musculoskeletal alignment and behavior—and even offers a glimpse into the future of eye health in our tech-heavy world. Dr. Appelbaum also shares how anyone can improve visual stamina and flexibility, and Katy and Jeannette reflect on their personal experience with his online program ScreenFit—a movement program for your eyes!

Dr Appelbaum is offering our listeners $200 off ScreenFit using code MOVEYOURDNA: https://bit.ly/moveyourdnaSF

Enhanced Show Notes & Full Transcript 

CHAPTERS
00:03:10 - Introducing Dr. Appelbaum 

00:09:30 - Impacts of Screens on Vision  

00:25:30 -  Unlocking Vision Potential Through Exercise - ScreenFit 

00:41:00 - Listener Question on Dry Eyes brought to you by Earth Runners  

00:50:40 - The Future of the Screen Time/Vision Connection

BOOKS MENTIONED

My Perfect Movement Plan by Katy Bowman

CONNECT, MOVE & LEARN

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MADE POSSIBLE BY OUR WONDERFUL SPONSORS:

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Peluva, Five-toe minimalist sports shoes ideal for walking and higher impact activities. Take 15% off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT
Ikaria Design, creators of the Soul Seat®, a height adjustable chair that allows you to sit in diverse shapes including cross-legged, take 10% of new inventory with code DNA10
Venn Design, beautiful floor cushions and ball seats that keep you moving at home or at the office
Smart Playrooms, design and products to keep you and your kids engaged and active at home, take 10% off monkey bars, rock wall panels and holds with code DNA10


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October Retreats 2026 

What to Do When Rucking Or Carrying Heavy Loads Hurts23 Jul 202500:55:52

Biomechanist Katy Bowman and biologist Jeannette Loram talk about rucking—walking with weight on your back—and other modes of carrying. They touch on the evolutionary history of carrying, carrying in modern Hunter Gatherer populations, rucking in the military and the benefits of fitness rucking. 


Jeannette and Katy focus on the challenges associated with rucking particularly pain and discomfort. They explain how different body adjustments—like leaning forward, arching the back, or shifting the hips forward—are responses to offset the backward-pulling force of a heavy load. These shifts help accommodate the extra mass, but if a single adjustment is done repetitively or without muscular support through the core, pain can be the result. 


Listen in to discover a more varied and mindful approach to managing your ruck; your low back will thank you!

Enhanced Show Notes & Full Transcript

CHAPTERS  

00:06:00 - The Dynamic Collective 

00:07:00 -  Are Humans Born to Carry? 

00:13:00 - Phases of Life and Issues with Fitness Rucking and Carrying in General  

00:26:00 - What's Holding You Up? Mindfulness in Rucking  

00:38:45 -  Listener Question about broken bones, brought to you by Ikaria Design  

00:49:00 - A Conversation Between Katy and Jeannette: What Is the Big Movement Question? 

BOOKS, ARTICLES AND RESEARCH MENTIONED

My Perfect Movement Plan by Katy Bowman
Pain-Free Baby Holding by Katy Bowman
Trunk Muscle Activity In Different Modes of Carrying by Motmans et al 2006
Bone Density and Intramedullary Rods by Kroger et al 2002

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Ikaria Design, creators of the Soul Seat®, a height adjustable chair that allows you to sit in diverse shapes including cross-legged, take 10% of new inventory with code DNA10
Venn Design, beautiful floor cushions and ball seats that keep you moving at home or at the office
Earth Runners, minimalist sandals that mimic being truly barefoot through their grounding technology, take 10% off with code DNA10
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October Retreats 2026 

Dynamic Wardrobes: How Clothes Can Restrict, Encourage or Stabilize Movement09 Jul 202501:02:22

How you get dressed might be impacting the way that you move or the movement choices you are able to make. 


Katy Bowman and Jeannette Loram highlight how stiff or excessively baggy clothing might be ‘casting’ movement. On the flip side ‘stabilizing’ wear like well-designed bras and compressive garments can make movement more comfortable for certain activities. Katy offers advice on how to dress for multiple scenarios: the movement that you plan to do, the spontaneous movements that you might want to do, as well as all the other things you need to do in a day.


Also in this episode Katy speaks with Mira Fannin of Sweet Skins. Sweet Skins produce beautiful hemp-cotton organic clothing. Katy and Mira talk about the origin of Sweet Skins and how Mira’s goal to make cute and liveable clothes for busy women has created the perfect movement-friendly clothing line. They also talk about the famous Bike Time pants and the new Sweet Skins styles coming out very soon. Mira is offering our listeners 20% off all clothes with code Movement20

Enhanced Show Notes & Full Transcript

CHAPTERS

00:06:00 - The Dynamic Collective 

00:07:09 - Definitions and Categories of Clothing 

00:17:30 - Compressive Garments 

00:25:23 - Listener Question brought to you by Venn Design 

00:31:23 - How do you get dressed in the morning 

00:40:31 - Interview with Mira from Sweet Skins

BOOKS, ARTICLES AND RESEARCH MENTIONED

Influence of Compression Garments on Proprioception by Ghai et al 2024
Grow Wild by Katy Bowman

RESOURCES

Minimal Shoes, The List
Movement Matters: Clothes

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MADE POSSIBLE BY OUR SPONSORS:


Earth Runners, minimalist sandals that mimic being truly barefoot through their grounding technology, take 10% off with code DNA10
Ikaria Design, creators of the Soul Seat®, a height adjustable chair that allows you to sit in diverse shapes including cross-legged, take 10% of new inventory with code DNA10
Sweet Skins, organic hemp and cotton clothing that is stylish, flexible and designed to move with you, take 20% off with code Movement20
Smart Playrooms, design and products to keep you and your kids engaged and active at home, take 10% off monkey bars, rock wall panels and holds with code DNA10
Venn Design, beautiful floor cushions and ball seats that keep you moving at home or at the office
Peluva, Five-toe minimalist sports shoes ideal for walking and higher impact activities. Take 15% off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT



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October Retreats 2026 

All About Eccentric Exercise: Get Stronger Doing Half Of An Exercise 25 Jun 202501:16:50

If you have heard about eccentric exercise but are unsure of the benefits, what it is or how to do it, this episode is your primer! 


Eccentric muscle contractions generate more force with less energy than other types of muscle contraction and are therefore one of the best ways to get stronger. The mechanism of eccentric contraction within the muscle is a little complicated but Katy offers a simple analogy involving two hair combs! 


Katy and Jeannette offer some examples of how you can incorporate eccentrics into your movement plan with the empowering message that you can get a lot stronger doing only half an exercise. Can’t do a pull-up? Not a problem, train the eccentric half of the movement—lowering down from the pull-up bar—and you will reap the strength rewards. 


Also in this episode, Katy speaks with Pack Matthews of Ikaria Design and creator of the Soul Seat®, the original and adjustable cross-legged chair. Katy is using one for her podcast set up and she and Pack talk about the origin of the chair, how the design has changed over time and Katy’s experience with it.  


Enhanced Show Notes & Full Transcript

CHAPTERS

(0:07:08) - Muscle Contraction: Three types 

(0:15:56) - Sarcomere: Actin, Myosin, and Titin 

(0:26:57) - Get Stronger Doing Half of an Exercise 

(0:41:00) - Listener Question: 'use it or lose it' brought to you by Earth Runners  

(0:47:40) - Interview with Pack Matthews of Ikaria Design 


BOOKS, ARTICLES AND RESEARCH MENTIONED

Want to Get Stronger and Avoid Injury, Try This, New York Times article on eccentrics
Eccentrics: Get Stronger Doing Half Of An Exercise, Katy Bowman
The Chair by Galen Cranz

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October Retreats 2026 

Where Exactly Is Muscle Memory? And Other 'Movement In The News" Headlines 11 Jun 202500:51:36

A deeper look into three recent headlines in the body-nerd world. First up, recent research has shown that our skeletal muscles remember training at the protein level - no brain required! This is exciting research and Katy and Jeannette discuss the implications for exercise over the lifespan. Second, they dig into a recent study of uphill walking; the research suggests it is cheaper to take the steeper route, but energy efficiency might not be the only consideration. Finally in response to the online noise about recent changes to the CDC developmental guidelines, Katy and Jeannette explain what has really changed and whether it should have caused such an upset.

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CHAPTERS

02:50 - Muscle Memory  

17:12 - Steeper is Cheaper  

28:02 - Changes in the CDC milestones  

43:22 - Listener Question sponsored by Peluva:  Is it inevitable that our body and parts wear out? 


ARTICLES AND RESEARCH MENTIONED

New Explanation of Muscle Memory in Science Daily
Skeletal Muscle Proteomic Memory by Hulmi et al (2025)
Steeper is Cheaper in Outside Magazine
Graded Walking Energetics by Looney et al (2025)
CDC Developmental Guidelines
Evidence Informed Milestones by Zubler et al (2022)


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October Retreats 2026 

What You Need To Know About Bone 2: It's Not The Mode It's The Load28 May 202501:36:34

In this episode, we break down the best approach to taking care of your bones using a government framework: Strong, Steady and Straight. We use this framework to discuss exercise and bone loading at three life-stages: a growing skeleton, a mature skeleton and a vulnerable skeleton. Listen to this episode to design a movement plan for your bones.

Also in this episode, Katy Bowman talks to Mike Dally, founder of Earth Runners, minimalist earthing sandals. Katy has walked more miles in Earth Runners than in any other shoe and Katy and Mike talk about her favourite features; from the non-slip foot bed to the replaceable straps and laces. Mike explains earthing technology and testing and describes their latest product that can ground any minimal shoe.

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Chapters

00:04:40 - This Season’s Dynamic Collective 

00:06:00 - Strong, Steady, and Straight - What do we mean?  

00:13:10 - Childhood - Young Bones  

00:30:00 - Vulnerable Bone  (Jump to Section)

00:52:00 - Mature & Stable bone - A summary (Jump to Section)

00:54:50 - Listener Question brought to you by Sweet Skins Hemp 

01:07:40 - Interview with Mike Dally from Earth Runners 


Books Mentioned:

Grow Wild by Katy Bowman
Move Your DNA by Katy Bowman
My Perfect Movement Plan by Katy Bowman

Research Mentioned:

LIFTMOR Randomized Controlled Trial by Watson et al (2018)
Aquatic Jump Training Review by Mullenax et al (2021)

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October Retreats 2026 

EP 180 What You Need To Know About Bone 1: Your Skeleton Is An Autobiography 07 May 202500:57:18

This is the first of two episodes on bone. In this first episode biomechanist Katy Bowman and biologist Jeannette Loram place bone tissue health into a wider context; what really matters is how well the entire skeleton is working—as a system—to support our bodies and our movement. 


Katy and Jeannette explain how the status of the bone in different parts of your skeleton is a record of the movement you have—and have not done—in the past. They outline Wolff's law, the idea that bone adapts and changes according to the stress and load it experiences throughout a lifetime. They bring this concept to life using examples from populations with distinct movement and bone loading histories ranging from ancient human archers and farmers, through different sporting populations to astronauts.

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Chapters:

00:05:30 - This Season’s Dynamic Collective 

00:06:30 - The Skeleton - a Bone Response Primer 

00:10:00 - Ancient Bones 

00:15:05 - Modern High-Tech Bones 

00:21:55 - Listener Question brought to you by Smart Playrooms 

00:36:30 - Bone and other sports 

00:43:55 - Multidirectional Odd Impact sports and bone 

00:51:45 - Your Stance is also informing your bones 



Books Mentioned:

Move Your DNA by Katy Bowman
Orbital by Samantha Harvey
Rethink Your Position by Katy Bowman

Research Mentioned:

Neolithic Women, Manual Labour and Bone 
Cycling and Bone Health
Multidirectional Sport and Running: bone strength

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October Retreats 2026 

Ep 179: Is The Concept of Exercise Helpful or Harmful? 23 Apr 202501:25:01

Inspired by a listener's letter, biomechanist Katy Bowman and biologist Jeannette Loram talk about exercise and sport and how these relate to natural movement. They discuss how Katy’s message has sometimes been reduced to exercise is ‘bad’ and natural movement is ‘better’.

Katy explains that this has never been her position; rather her aim has been to challenge the assumption that the only way to move our bodies is through exercise. Her work has been to expand our framework of human movement and provide a broader understanding of the shapes and volumes of movement required for human health. 


Katy and Jeannette also address issues raised in the listener's letter about gym culture and sports, noting that many of the negatives are perceived rather than actual or are to do with commercialization. They discuss the ubiquity of team sports across human cultures and the many positives that sport can provide, including natural movements—like throwing and catching—that are hard to get elsewhere in life.  


Also in this episode Katy interviews Anna Yona, co-founder of the barefoot shoe company Wildling. Anna shares the origin story of Wildling and their expansion from children’s shoes into the adult market. Katy and Anna talk about favourite customer stories, teenage shoe choices and Wildling’s most recent venture—a rain boot—filling a much needed niche in the minimal shoe market.

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Chapters:

00:04:20 - The Dynamic Collective 

00:05:30 - Exercise Versus Natural Movement 

00:09:00 - Definitions 

00:24:00 - Gym Culture 

00:31:00 - Exercise is bad? 

00:36:25 - Sport Culture 

00:46:00 - Reader Question brought to you by Correct Toes 

00:55:40 - Conversation with Anna Yona of Wildling 



Books Mentioned:

My Perfect Movement Plan by Katy Bowman
I Know I Should Exercise, But... by Diana Hill & Katy Bowman
Far From the Tree by Andrew Solomon
Hunter-Gatherer Childhoods Edited by Barry Hewlett & Michael Lamb

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October Retreats 2026 

Ep 178: Are Humans Born To Walk?09 Apr 202501:22:33

Katy Bowman and Jeannette Loram kick this episode off with a conversation about British walking idioms and nature-based language. They are then joined by Mark Sisson, author, former distance runner and founder of the minimal shoe company Peluva. Mark, Katy and Jeannette talk about human evolutionary history, walking, health and Mark’s latest book Born to Walk. They discuss how running has become the iconic fitness activity but Mark explains how most people would be better served by abundant walking—combined with some strength training and a small amount of higher intensity exercise—to create a more nourishing and less physically stressful movement diet.  


Katy also has a conversation with Karri Bowen-Poole, founder of Smart Playrooms and one of the Move Your DNA sponsors. Smart Playrooms offer equipment and design services for indoor play and activity spaces. Katy and Karri discuss the ethos behind Smart Playrooms, the design process and Karri offers her genius recommendations for equipment to add to every home. Katy and Karri explain how to plan flexible and adjustable spaces so that your movement and play areas stay interesting and grow with your family.

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Chapters: 

[00:07:07] - Dynamic Collective 

00:08:20 - Introducing Mark Sisson 

00:15:50 - Born to Run or Born to Walk? 

00:25:45 - Who is this book for? 

00:34:40 - The Obligate Runner and tips 

00:43:15 - Listener Question brought to you by Venn Design

00:51:50 - Interview with Karri Bowen-Poole of Smart Playrooms 

Books Mentioned:

Landmarks by Robert Macfarlane
Born to Walk by Mark Sisson & Brad Kearns
The Primal Blueprint by Mark Sisson
Born to Run by Mark McDougall
I Know I Should Exercise, But... by Diana Hill & Katy Bowman

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October Retreats 2026 

Ep 177: Hypermobility, Proprioception And Building Up A Bendy Body 26 Mar 202501:25:02

We discuss movement for the bendy body with guest Dr Libby Hinsley, a doctor of physical therapy specializing in the treatment of hypermobility syndromes and chronic pain. Libby shares her personal and professional journey with hypermobility explaining what hypermobility is and the associated symptoms. Libby, Katy and Jeannette discuss the paradox that bendy bodies have large ranges of motion yet tense muscles and how a sedentary lifestyle is even more of a liability for people with hypermobility syndromes. Libby and Katy outline the ABCs of a movement program for bendy bodies that often struggle with proprioception and are easily fatigued. They emphasize the importance of higher load activities performed with very mindful attention to exercise form. They caution that smaller and slower movements are key whatever the exercise modality. 


Also in this episode, Katy has a conversation with Sohail Shariff of Movemate, creator of segmented active standing boards designed to be used while you work. Sohail explains the personal stories behind the product and its design. Katy shares her appreciation of the boards particularly how  these boards foster dynamic movement of the foot and ankle, something missing with traditional balance boards. Sohail and Katy also discuss the board's segmented design; the multiple articulations create a flowing but stable motion which means Katy can move and focus on work at the same time. Finally they discuss the value of the board in the therapeutic space particularly for those with a need for movement that soothes the nervous system. 

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Chapters:
00:04:45 - Dynamic Collective 

00:06:15 - Introducing Libby Hinsley 

00:10:30 - Hypermobility - Definition and Explanation 

00:14:40 - Symptoms 

00:23:35 - Exercise and muscle use in the floppy body 

00:29:30 - A Movement Diet for the bendy body 

00:41:30 - Listener Question brought to you by Peluva 

00:55:35 - Interview with Sohail Shariff of Movemate 


Books Mentioned:

Yoga for Bendy People: Optimizing the Benefits of Yoga for Hypermobility by Libby Hinsley
I Know I Should Exercise, But... by Diana Hill & Katy Bowman

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October Retreats 2026 

Ep 176: Do We Really Lose Muscle As We Get Older? 12 Mar 202501:19:42

Are you confused by all the social media messaging about muscle mass and strength training? Join us for this beefy episode all about muscle! 


Biomechanist Katy Bowman and biologist Jeannette Loram discuss the clinical term sarcopenia– age-related muscle decline–and distinguish it from muscle atrophy due to disuse and sedentary lifestyles. Katy and Jeannette tease apart the different elements of muscle decline; mass, strength and function. They debate how each of these can be measured and their importance. Their discussion centers on a listener's question seeking to understand what we should be doing physically to prevent muscle loss. 


Also in this episode, Katy has a conversation with Tyler Benner of Venn Design, a company creating dynamic seating for homes and offices. Tyler explains how his background in physics and sport have contributed to his creativity in product design. Tyler highlights his solar and sports series of Air Chairs and explains how he has created designs that look exactly like a planet or a basketball! He also introduces his latest venture; Strong Feet Athletics, creator of the first barefoot cycling shoe.  


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Chapters: 
00:05:00 - The Dynamic Collective  

00:08:00 - Muscle, Sarcopenia, Atrophy - Definitions 

00:16:45 - Muscle Mass Overview 

00:27:00 - Glycogen/Glucose, BMI, and more 

00:30:35 - Dynamic Aging 

00:40:50 - Listener Question Recap brought to you by Wildling 

00:48:25 - Interview with Tyler Benner of Venn Design 



Books Mentioned:

Dynamic Aging by Katy Bowman

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October Retreats 2026 

Ep 175 I Know I Should Exercise But....26 Feb 202501:18:47

Katy Bowman is joined by psychologists Dr Diana Hill and Dr Kelly McGonigal. Katy and Diana have co-written a new book I know I should Exercise But… 44 Reasons We Don’t Move and How to Get Over Them and they came together with Kelly, author of the The Joy of Movement, to talk about personal obstacles to movement, movement frameworks & vocabulary and how to find your ‘movement genius’. 


In our second feature Katy welcomes author and masters athlete Brad Kearns, to talk about the minimalist five-toed shoe company Peluva, one of our podcast sponsors. Brad shares the early history of the company and how you go about making a minimalist shoe. Katy and Brad discuss the niche that Peluva fills in the minimal shoe market and Brad shares his favourite customer success stories. 


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Chapters:

00:06:25 - Conversation with Katy, Diana, and Kelly 

00:17:00 - Struggles and Motivation - grief, neurotype, perimenopause, pain and more 

00:34:45 - Jeannette and Katy Summarize 

00:38:00 - Listener question brought to you by Movemate

00:51:30 - Interview with Brad Kearns of Peluva 



Books & Articles Mentioned:

I Know I Should Exercise But…44 Reasons We Don’t Move and How to Get Over Them by Diana Hill & Katy Bowman

The Joy of Movement by Kelly McGonigal 

Born to Walk by Mark Sisson with Brad Kearns

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Peluva, Five-toe minimalist sports shoes ideal for higher impact activities
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Venn Design, beautiful floor cushions and ball seats that keep you moving at home or at the office
Movemate, dynamic active standing boards that invite movement and play into your workday, without disrupting your workflow
Smart Playrooms, design and products to keep you and your kids engaged and active at home
Correct Toes, soft silicone toe spacers that can be worn barefoot or in shoes;



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October Retreats 2026 

Ep 174: Matters of the Heart 12 Feb 202501:27:16

Biomechanist Katy Bowman and biologist Jeannette Loram discuss Matters of the Heart. They cover the anatomy, tissues and function of the cardiovascular system, highlighting key concepts of heart health that are underappreciated. They discuss the importance of the flexibility of red blood cells, arterial walls and the heart muscle itself. They also explain the vital role of skeletal muscle contraction in healthy circulation. Muscle contraction during exercise not only assists the return of blood to the heart from the extremities, it is also the signal for blood vessels near working muscles to dilate or widen ‘pulling’ blood from arteries into the tissues. 


Katy and Jeannette talk about a movement diet to support the cardiovascular system. They emphasize the importance of higher intensity activity for taking the heart and arteries through their full ranges of motion. Their discussion also offers up a much larger buffet of exercise options than you might have previously considered. Strength training, big body work and stress-reducing movement all have complementary benefits for the cardiovascular system. 


Also in this episode Katy interviews podiatrist Dr Ray McClanahan, founder of Correct Toes and one of our podcast sponsors. Correct Toes are a toe orthotic designed to return toes to their natural alignment as the widest part of the foot. Ray explains the functional benefits of aligned toes, including improved balance, circulation and strength. Katy and Ray chat about how and why Correct Toes came about and they also discuss the future, with an introduction to some of Correct Toes latest products.

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Chapters: 
00:03:25 - How has the heart shown up in life recently? 

00:06:20 - The Dynamic Collective 

00:07:30 - Anatomy

00:22:15 - Let’s talk about movement

00:31:25 - The arteries and calf hearts 

00:43:25 - Glycogen, stress, strength training, and the movement buffet 

00:47:10 - Listener question sponsored by Smart Playrooms 

00:56:30 - Interview with Dr. Ray McClanahan of CorrectToes.com 

Books & Articles Mentioned:
 
My Perfect Movement Plan by Katy Bowman
Move Your DNA by Katy Bowman

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Made Possible by Our Dynamic Collective of Wonderful Sponsors: 

Correct Toes, soft silicone toe spacers that can be worn barefoot or in shoes
Peluva, Five-toe minimalist sports shoes ideal for higher impact activities
Movemate, dynamic active standing boards that invite movement and play into your workday, without disrupting your workflow
Smart Playrooms, design and products to keep your kids engaged and active at home
Wildling, minimal footwear for toddlers, kids and adults made from natural materials
Venn Design, beautiful floor cushions and ball seats that keep you moving at home or at the office. 



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Ep 173: Is Posture a Thing?29 Jan 202500:56:09

In recent years there has been significant backlash against the idea that posture is related to good health. Join biomechanist Katy Bowman and biologist Jeannette Loram for a philosophical, historical and biological journey into the controversies around posture. 


Katy and Jeannette discuss whether posture is really a thing; is ‘good’ posture important or does your body work just fine regardless of how you hold it? Have we simply inherited postural ideals that are remnants of cultural, social and political baggage? 


Katy and Jeannette tease this out by discussing definitions of posture, the history of postural ideals and the difficulty in relating pain to posture. They turn to extreme examples of posture and Katy’s work in alignment to offer a more nuanced perspective on posture and physical experience in terms of load to tissues over time.

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Chapters:
00:04:05 - When you hear the word "posture" what do you think 

00:06:20 - The Dynamic Collective 

00:07:30 - Definitions, is posture a thing, and is good posture a thing? 

00:22:50 - Good Posture? No Posture? Posture Parameters? 

00:30:25 - Loads, Alignment, and posture 

00:41:05 - Consequences of positions vs posture 

00:47:20 - Listener Question sponsored by Wildling 


Books & Articles Mentioned:
The Structure of Scientific Revolutions by Thomas S. Kuhn 

The Rise and Fall of American Posture by David Yosifon & Peter N. Stearns
My Perfect Movement Plan by Katy Bowman

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Correct Toes, soft silicone toe spacers that can be worn barefoot or in shoes
Wildling, minimal footwear for toddlers, kids and adults made from natural materials
Venn Design, beautiful floor cushions and ball seats that keep you moving at home or at the office
Peluva, Five-toe minimalist sports shoes ideal for higher impact activities. 



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October Retreats 2026 

Ep 172: Is Standing the New Smoking? 15 Jan 202500:52:51

Biomechanist Katy Bowman and biologist Jeannette Loram, discusses a recent study on sitting time, standing time and circulatory risk. They cut through the media hype and explain what the study shows and why any prolonged static position might have health consequences. 


Katy and Jeannette contrast our cultural norm of being in the same position for many hours a day with the diverse resting positions of the Hadza, a hunter-gatherer group with low cardiovascular risk but also a large amount of rest time. Katy explains how repetitive positioning generates higher pressure in specific locations in our circulatory system setting us up for injury, whereas varied positioning and light movement keeps the cardiovascular system supple and the pressure distributed throughout our system.  


Jeannette and Katy touch on other issues to do with repetitive positioning including mobility and discomfort and offer practical suggestions for supporting your mobility and cardiovascular health while stationary. Finally don’t miss Katy answering a listener's question on hyperkyphosis via bananas and semi-permanent hair dye!

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Venn Design, beautiful floor cushions and ball seats that keep you moving at home or at the office.
Wildling, minimal footwear for toddlers, kids and adults made from natural materials
Movemate, dynamic active standing boards that invite movement and play into your workday, without disrupting your workflow
Peluva, Five-toe minimalist sports shoes ideal for higher impact activities
Correct Toes, soft silicone toe spacers that can be worn barefoot or in shoes


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October Retreats 2026 

Ep 171 HOW DID YOU MOVE HOW WILL YOU MOVE 202430 Dec 202401:20:39

On this episode Katy and Jeannette continue the Move Your DNA annual tradition of reflecting on the past year and looking forward to the next. Through a series of questions Katy and Jeannette reflect on 2024, discuss movement goals for 2025, and invite you to play along. They explore moving through injury, menopause and how to keep progressing with age. They share their plans for 2025 and Katy provides novel strategies to help us all MOVE towards the goals we have for ourselves and our families.

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Made Possible by Our Dynamic Collective of Wonderful Sponsors: 

Venn Design, beautiful floor cushions and ball seats that keep you moving at home or at the office.
Wildling, minimal footwear for toddlers, kids and adults made from natural materials
Movemate, dynamic active standing boards that invite movement and play into your workday, without disrupting your workflow
Peluva, Five-toe minimalist sports shoes ideal for higher impact activities
Correct Toes, soft silicone toe spacers that can be worn barefoot or in shoes
Smart Playrooms, design and products to keep your kids engaged and active at home


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October Retreats 2026 

Ep 170: Don’t Ignore the Head and Neck 11 Dec 202401:13:57

Biomechanist Katy Bowman talks to biologist Jeannette Loram about the importance of head and neck movement. This year, Katy’s annual exercise advent offers 24 moves for the head and neck and Katy explains her personal and professional reasons for choosing this theme.  


Jeannette and Katy discuss the head and neck as a hub for our sensory, nervous, immune, digestive and vestibular systems, all of which require movement to support their functions. They discuss common issues of the head and neck region, as well as how repetitive head positioning and neck immobility can relate to broader experiences in the body, such as Katy’s discovery of a decrease in her height that she is working to reverse. 


They discuss the basic movements of the head and neck and also cover the structures of the region including a neck anatomy lesson provided by their favourite 1970s musical ‘Grease’ and a third-grade attempt to mimic the album cover! 


They share their own head and neck care practices and suggest strategies for listeners to add more daily movement for this part of the body; from changing their sleep set-up to pairing specific neck movements with a daily cue.


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Ep 169: A Dog's Best Movement Diet27 Nov 202400:55:02

Biomechanist Katy Bowman talks to biologist Jeannette Loram about dog movement. This discussion stemmed from witnessing a balance ball therapy session for dogs. Just like modern humans, modern dogs now require physical therapy. In this episode, Katy and Jeannette discuss how to use Katy’s ‘movement nutrition’ framework and apply it to your furry friends.

Katy and Jeannette discuss the evolution of dogs and the difference in movement experience between free-ranging ancestral dogs compared with today’s urban canines. They discuss how human-chosen pacing is not necessarily the most comfortable for dogs since their most efficient gait pattern is a trot, not a walk. They discuss the importance of meaningful movement for a dog, emphasizing the importance of smell and play as ‘command-free’ movement. They also talk about the importance of mentoring movement for dogs, especially safety skills such as swimming. 

Finally, they talk about their own dogs and their favourite —and often quirky—activities from climbing trees to log dragging and how dogs and humans can enhance each other’s movement diets.

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Ep 168: Is Sitting Aging You Faster?20 Nov 202401:01:08

Biomechanist Katy Bowman talks to biologist Jeannette Loram about a recent New York Times article “ Why Sitting All Day May Shorten Your Life”. Katy was a source for this article and she talks with Jeannette about the journalistic process, and why the short-form might be letting us down.

Katy and Jeannette talk about the benefits of sitting as well as the risks associated with uninterrupted hours in a chair. They discuss sitting as a two-part issue; first the inactivity and second the fixed body geometry. Katy and Jeannette discuss recent research showing that long hours of sitting are associated with a more rapid rate of cellular aging and how many experiences we put down to aging: muscle and bone loss, low energy levels and low back pain are really influenced by how much we sit.

Katy and Jeannette critique the recommendation to offset hours in a chair by increasing exercise time, noting that this is not really how biology works. Katy suggests that this approach is a bit like flossing your teeth diligently while not brushing them.

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Ep 167: Things I Learned Walking 100 Miles in 6 Days30 Oct 202401:11:52

Biomechanist Katy Bowman talks to biologist Jeannette Loram about her recent multi-day hike across England. Katy, with her sister Mary, walked from east coast to west coast along the length of Hadrian’s Wall. 

Katy and Jeannette talk about Katy’s physical preparation for the walk; the (four pairs!) of shoes Katy selected and when she used them; the changing terrain and gait patterns she adopted and how she felt over the course of the trip. Finally Katy shares her physical and philosophical insights after many days of walking.   


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Ep 166: Coughing, A Surprising Measure of Whole-Body Strength 09 Oct 202400:56:56

Biomechanist Katy Bowman and biologist Jeannette Loram talk about coughing. 

Katy and Jeannette discuss coughing as a life-saving movement; both in the immediate, to prevent choking, and also in the longer term for adequate clearance of the lungs and the health of our airways. They discuss the anatomy and mechanics of a cough, explaining how the mobility, strength and coordination of our core muscles affects the strength of our cough. 

They discuss postural presentations such as hyperkyphosis and anterior pelvic tilt that can lead to a weaker cough. They also talk about the liabilities of a cough, including abdominal strain, urinary incontinence, rib damage and back pain.

They discuss how coughing, like giving birth, is not a movement that we want to practice: ‘use it or lose it’ does not apply in this case! Instead we want to make sure that tension or weakness in our torso is not limiting our ability to cough when we need to. Katy offers a suite of mobility and strength exercises to prepare your coughing apparatus as we head into flu and cold season. 


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Ep 165: Is There Really a 'Right' Way to Walk?25 Sep 202401:13:17

Biomechanist Katy Bowman and biologist Jeannette Loram discuss gait and question whether there is a ‘right’ way to walk. 

They explain the mechanics of walking gait, outlining the phases and shapes that each leg and foot should move through during the gait cycle. They propose that an ‘abnormal’ gait would be one that is missing one of these phases or shapes. They also suggest a framework for assessing walking based on efficiency, symmetry and balance. They talk about gait deficits such as shuffling and waddling and what is missing in those gait patterns while acknowledging that we are all individuals and not all gait variation is abnormal or needs to be corrected. 

Katy suggests we can only get to the heart of this question by considering human movement ecology; particularly the volume we walk, the shoes we walk in and, for most modern humans, the lack of a requirement to walk long distances efficiently. They discuss this in relation to human hunter-gatherers as well as other animals.  

Finally, they answer a couple of listener questions on the rather unusual gait seen in racewalking.  


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