In this episode, Todd flies solo with guest John Wilsey, a professor of church history at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and author of the thought-provoking book, Religious Freedom: A Conservative Primer. In his book, John addresses urgent questions about religious freedom in America today. How have conservatives historically understood the meaning of religious freedom? How do Americans who identify as conservative now think about religious freedom in this era? What are the differences between the historical and contemporary views, and how do those differences shape fights about religious freedom today?

Todd and John explore the historical context of religious freedom in America and its implications for the church today, examining America's unique blend of religion and liberty, the dangers of an established church, and the importance of preserving religious freedom for the flourishing of the church and society.

Disestablishment is the best way forward for the church. – John Wilsey

Tune in for this timely and thought provoking conversation.

We are pleased to offer three listeners a copy of John Wilsey’s book, Religious Freedom: A Conservative Primer, courtesy of Eerdman’s Publishing. Enter here for the opportunity to win.

 

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Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville

Todd and Carl sit down today to engage in a candid discussion about the complexities and challenges of pastoral ministry, particularly in relation to suffering and criticism. 

Suffering is not a bug within the ministry system; it's actually going to be a feature of ministry. – Todd Pruitt

They explore the insights of the Apostle Paul, especially from his letters to the Corinthians, and how his experiences can guide modern pastors through their own trials. With humor and sincerity, they delve into the necessity of being open-hearted in ministry, the burden of criticism, and the importance of maintaining a gentle spirit in the face of adversity. Join them for a thoughtful conversation that aims to encourage both pastors and those who support them.

We are pleased to offer three listeners a copy of Doug Kelly’s book, New Life in the Wasteland: 2 Corinthians on the Cost and Glory of Christian Ministry, courtesy of Christian Focus Publishing. Enter here for the opportunity to win.

In this episode of Mortification of Spin, Carl and Todd are joined by their friend, Michael Morales, professor of biblical studies at Greenville Theological Seminary. Together, they discuss Michael's much-anticipated 2-volume commentary on the Book of Numbers, an often-overlooked by preachers and students of the Bible. According to Carl, "If Michael Morales writes it, you need to read it."

Discussing its significance in the biblical narrative and its implications for understanding the covenant community, Morales shares insights on how the Book of Numbers serves as a foundation for ecclesiology and its connections to Christ and the church today. 

The Torah really is the foundation of all of our theology. – Michael Morales

Tune in for a rich conversation that aims to illuminate the depths of this vital text! Perhaps, like Todd, you'll renew your enthusiasm for this middle book of the Pentateuch after listening to their conversation.

Congratulations to the winners of our giveaway! Edison W. from Cedar Lake, IN and Karol O. from Webb City, MO have each won Michael Morales' 2-volume Numbers Commentary, thanks to the generosity of Apollos Publishing.

The Blessings of the Faith series recently published by P&R is a valuable resource highlighting the distinctives of the Presbyterian and Reformed faith. The series, written for Church laity as an introduction to Presbyterian ecclesiology and polity, is particularly helpful for Christians with backgrounds in other traditions. Carl’s guest is Jason Helopoulos, editor of the series and author of Covenantal Baptism. He’s the senior pastor of University Reformed Church in East Lansing, MI. Jason shares his love for the sacrament of covenantal baptism and explains how his perspective on the subject has changed since his seminary days. What does baptism represent in the Reformed tradition? How is the concept of judgment associated with baptism? Do we pray with our children or for our children? Don’t miss this very insightful discussion.  Congrats to our winners of complimentary copies of Jason's Covenantal Baptism:  *Joan H. from Huron, OH    *Bradley E. from Anthem, AZ

Mortification of Spin is now a biweekly podcast. As we adjust to the new schedule, we’d like to introduce you to another Alliance podcast: Theology on the Go, with Jonathan Master and James Dolezal. A new episode of MoS is coming November 24th. Dale Ralph Davis has been a minister at a few traditional Reformed churches in the US. For some time, he was Old Testament professor at Reformed Theological Seminary in Jackson, MS. Dale lives a much quieter life now, and is happy to chat with Jonathan and James about one of his remarkable books, entitled The Word Became Fresh - How to Preach from the Old Testament Narrative Texts. What is it about some OT narrative texts that intimidates many from preaching through them? What would be the possible negative effects on a church that does not receive the full revelation of God’s Word, including what Davis calls these “nasty narratives?”

A new series is available from P&R Publishing, produced in collaboration with some very accomplished and devoted pastors and theologians. Written for the Church, The Blessings of the Faith Series edited by Jason Helopoulos introduces and explores the distinctives of the Presbyterian and Reformed faith. Current topics include expository preaching, covenantal baptism, and persistent prayer, and more are on the way. Today, Carl chats with David Strain, the senior minister of First Presbyterian Church in Jackson, MS, and author of Expository Preaching. David explains the layout of the books, including content designed to answer questions commonly posed by Christians who are new to the Reformed faith. Why is expository preaching so vital? Is preaching simply the communication of information? David’s conviction and passion for expository preaching set the stage for this engaging conversation. Congratulations to our winners of complimentary copies of Expository Preaching: *Zaci S. from Gable, SC    *Chrissy W. from Phoenixville, PA  

While Carl is globetrotting, fulfilling speaking engagements about what is (thus far) his magnum opus, Todd makes a promise to the loyal listeners of this podcast. As he’s the only host present, our megachurch minister sits down with a good friend to discuss a pressing issue in their common denomination, the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA).  It’s Fred Greco, pastor of Christ Church in Katy, TX, a General Assembly (GA) veteran trained in the art of unambiguous language. The two discuss this year’s passing of Overtures 23 and 37 at the GA and why the PCA should adopt them and amend the Book of Church Order. What are these overtures about? Why are they so significant for the future of the denomination? Todd and Fred review the proposals and discuss the objections raised by those who oppose them. Listen thoughtfully, because even if you’re not in a PCA church, the same issues may soon be knocking at the door of your denomination.

He’s a “Thought Leader”…an “American Theologian”…and an “Anti-Social Media Influencer” (or is that, an “antisocial Media Influencer?”). Yes, the great Carl Trueman and his faithful sidekick Todd “Tonto” Pruitt sit down to chat about some very contemporary issues, as they also share an important family development! The progress of information technology has our generation asking questions and dealing with concerns no previous generation could have imagined. The benefits of technology are many; there is much to celebrate. Yet our surrender to, and dependence on, technology comes at a high cost–and the Church may soon have to ante up! Our Spinners weigh in and challenge the Church to stay one step ahead of the game. Resources to be Acquainted With: · Napa Legal Institute · Ethics and Public Policy Center · Alliance Defending Freedom · Becket - Religious Liberty for All We are offering our listeners the opportunity to win a copy of “The Tyranny of Big Tech” by US Senator Josh Hawley. Sign up! The books are a generous gift from our friends at Regnery Publishing.

Our spin terminators are feuding about Carl’s citizenship status, the environment, and even boiled food, all before introducing their special guests. Both men join us virtually today, but will appear together in person to speak at the Bold North Conference on Reformed Theology November 5-6, 2021, at Mission Orthodox Presbyterian Church in St. Paul, MN. Camden Bucey is a minister at Hope Orthodox Presbyterian Church in Grayslake, IL and the executive director of Reformed Forum. His friend Jim Cassidy is the pastor of South Austin Presbyterian Church in Austin, TX and the Reformed Forum board president. The pair check in to prepare us for the upcoming conference, themed Covenant Theology and the Promised Messiah. What is Covenant Theology, why is it important, and what are the distinctions between Covenant Theology and broader evangelicalism? Israel, the Church, how the Bible is structured, and the way we interpret Scripture are not mere doctrinal differences that can be overlooked, but are at the very heart of understanding the way God relates to his creatures. So listen in, and stay tuned for a very important announcement at the end of the show. Show Notes · Reformed Forum · Bold North Conference on Reformed Theology Congratulations to our winners of a free copy of Foundations of Covenant Theology: A Biblical, Theological Study of Genesis 1-3 by Lane Tipton: David R. from Williamsburg, VA Kyle A. from Clarksville, IN

On today’s encore presentation of Mortification of Spin the dynamic duo becomes a trio, as a third pessimist—that is, a third realist—joins in. Rod Dreher is an American writer and editor, culture critic, and the author of several books, including The Benedict Option and the freshly released Live Not By Lies: A Manual for Christian Dissidents. Rod’s book is a wakeup call for Christians about ideas that have become prevalent in American society…notions already adopted in other countries that have proven to be a threat to civil liberties.  Is there still hope to turn from what he calls “soft totalitarianism”? What’s the course of action for Christians to preserve the faith in such an intolerant society, where words and actions are becoming highly surveilled and dealt with “accordingly?” Live Not By Lies is timely and absolutely relevant for Christian dissidents. You can’t afford to miss this conversation! Show Notes ·The American Conservative ·The Benedict Option: A Strategy for Christians in a Post-Christian Nation by Rod Dreher

Our favorite spin slayers believe that Christians and non-Christians alike should care about religious liberty. So, Carl and Todd choose to revisit a prominent First Amendment case and note other offenses that are popping up all around. How should Christians view religious liberty and what should be our response when faced with religious opposition and hostility? How big of a deal is it, really, to bake a cake or arrange flowers for a gay wedding? Carl explains how the concepts of personhood and identity are determining factors in the way liberty is defined in today’s society—even in the opinion of some Christians.  Show Notes ·Public Discourse ·Alliance Defending Freedom ·Becket - Religious Liberty for All ·Pacific Justice Institute ·Freedom and Virtue Institute ·The Institute for Faith and Freedom - GCC ·The Heritage Foundation ·Ethics and Public Policy Center  We are pleased to offer our listeners the opportunity to win a free copy of Liberty for All: Defending Everyone’s Religious Freedom in a Pluralistic Age by Andrew T. Walker. Register! The copies are a generous gift from our friends at Brazos Press.

A very old and common problem in the pastoral world has recently returned to the headlines with allegations of sermon plagiarism lodged against the newly elected president of the Southern Baptist Convention. Why is sermon plagiarism such a big deal? Does it reach beyond the simple theft of intellectual property? What are the advantages and blessings of sermon preparation for the pastor and his congregation? Join Carl and Todd for an instructive conversation! We are pleased to offer you the opportunity to win a free copy of the classic Preaching and Preachers by Martin Lloyd Jones, published by Zondervan. Register!

He can no longer blend into the background. Carl Trueman is now officially an influencer; he’s a fellow of the Ethics and Public Policy Center in Washington D.C. and a clear and present danger to the unorthodox and “progressive” in this country.  The legendary secret bunker has been dusted off, equipped with new transmitting devices, and is now ready to harbor our two outspoken hosts. Trueman and his faithful sidekick Pruitt are now targets of “the mob” for bringing the “cultural transformation” movement to the discussion table. What was that movement supposed to be about, and did it fulfill its purpose? How does the Church participate in cultural transformation affecting ethics and public policy in today’s society? Our naïve duo claims it’s through the power of the Gospel, one soul at a time…but what do they know?  We have a few giveaway copies of Ethics beyond Rules: How Christ’s Call to Love Informs Our Moral Choices, compliments of our friends at Zondervan. Register for the opportunity to win one.

In this episode, Todd Pruitt and Carl Truman welcome back Lydia Brownback, the director for women's resources at Crossway and a well-known author. They dive into Lydia's journey from seminary to writing and teaching, and how the Lord wove all of these experiences together in her life to prepare her for the work she is now doing. 

Isn't it true that what He is doing in our lives is always preparatory, in some way or another? – Lydia Brownback

Lydia shares her insights on the growth of women's ministries, as well as the inspiration that led her to write her popular book, Flourish: How the Love of Christ Frees Us From Self-Focus. She also addresses the topic of loneliness, something experienced by everyone at some point in their lives, and how churches can address this common issue with their members.

The goal is to incorporate everybody into the larger body so that it feels like family, whatever your stage of life. – Lydia Brownback

Tune in for an engaging conversation covering a wide range of topics that is sure to be insightful and encouraging. 

We are pleased to award three copies of Lydia Brownback’s book, Flourish: How the Love of Christ Frees Us from Self-Focus, to our listeners, thanks to the generosity of Crossway Publishers. Congratulations Leah B. from Canton, GA, Marianne H. from Fuquay Varina, NC, and Carl C. from Lubbock, TX!

 

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Check out more of Lydia’s books at Reformed Resources!

https://reformedresources.org/books/authors/lydia-brownback/

Todd Pruitt proves to be a good and supportive friend as he endures Carl’s insufferable bragging for being “canceled” by Instagram and YouTube. What’s more, Dr. Trueman informs that he was labeled as “distinguished” on the pages of The Wall Street Journal! All as our “nutty professor” continues to resist the notion of becoming a patriotic American citizen.  Seriously: Is it okay for a Christian to be patriotic? Is patriotism a virtue? What’s the distinction between nationalism and patriotism? The two friends help us separate our gratitude for the nation where God placed us from a much less healthy form of nationalistic fanaticism. Should the American flag be displayed in places of worship and church buildings? Listen for perspective from our resident Brit! For good insight on today’s topic, we’re offering our listeners the opportunity to win a free copy of Os Guinness’ The Magna Carta of Humanity - Sinai’s Revolutionary Faith and the Future of Freedom. Register! The books are a generous gift from our friends at InterVarsity Press. 

Putting his reputation at risk once again, Dr. Thomas Weinandy makes a return visit to the podcast. The topic of conversation for his first visit was Tom’s impressive work, Jesus Becoming Jesus: A Theological Interpretation of the Synoptic Gospels. The scholar and prolific author is back with the follow-up tome Jesus Becoming Jesus Volume 2: A Theological Interpretation of the Gospel of John.  In this latest work, Father Weinandy takes an in-depth look at the historical systematic theology and interpretation of the Gospel of John–emphasizing the doxological aspect of Jesus’ life, death, and resurrection and the significance of referring to Jesus as the Logos. Take note of what Thomas has to say regarding the miracles in John, and in particular, what the resurrection of Lazarus means for the interpretation of this book. Show Notes · Jesus Becoming Jesus - First Episode · Does God Change? By Thomas Weinandy · Does God Suffer? By Thomas Weinandy  Register for the opportunity to win a free copy of Jesus Becoming Jesus. These books are a complimentary gift from our friends at The Catholic University of America Press.

The podcasting world’s most interesting pair is joined by “the Queen,” as her husband calls her. It’s not Elizabeth II (sorry, Carl!) or the 80s rock band, but Mary Beeke; author, wife of Joel Beeke, mother of three adult children, a former nurse and elementary teacher, and long-time servant of the church.  Mary’s latest book will resonate with most parents as she writes about teaching our children the importance of work and instilling a godly and honorable work ethic. Mary offers an assessment of current societal values that inspire entitlement, complaining, a lack of motivation, and “living for the weekend”…while ignoring the value of earning one’s keep. Does Scripture have anything to say about the issue? Is there a correlation between work and joy? Parents, don’t lose heart! Enjoy Mary’s encouragement as you learn how to persist in “training up” your child! We have copies of Teach Them to Work that we are giving away. Register for the opportunity to win one! The books are a generous gift from our friends at Reformation Heritage Books.

Believe it or not, our hosts can be positive every once in a while. This week, they sit down to chat about the encouraging outcomes of this year’s PCA General Assembly. What happened at the GA that is giving Todd such encouragement about the future of the denomination? (It’s been well-documented that Carl couldn’t care less!) Todd explains the dynamics inside a denomination comprised of “tribes” (as some have called them) that have different interests and goals for the future. For example, some are committed to reforming Presbyterianism and its distinctives, while others see a more progressive kind of evangelicalism for the PCA. Todd reviews the “overtures” voted on at the Assembly and what they mean in the big picture. Overall, it’s an encouraging affirmation of biblical standards and reformed doctrine. To complement today’s topic, we would like to offer you the opportunity to win a free copy of Kevin DeYoung’s book Men and Women in the Church, A Short, Biblical, Practical Introduction. Register! The copies are a complimentary gift from our friends at Crossway.

Despite the inestimable success of his most recent book, Carl finds himself “cancelled” by a school where he was to deliver a speech. It’s an outcome that raises Dr. Trueman to an even higher level of recognition; he’s now almost as important as Ryan T. Anderson, who was famously cancelled by Amazon! Now, Carl and Todd hope their special guest won’t be “cancelled” for merely being in their company. Michael Kruger is the president of Reformed Theological Seminary in Charlotte, and professor of New Testament and Early Christianity. Although Michael is a scholar and has written some heavyweight theological volumes, he’s also penned some phenomenal books with a pastoral tone. Michael’s latest is Surviving Religion 101, which he says is--for a number of reasons--one of his most personal. This letter-format book is intended not only to help Christians survive the assault on their beliefs on campus, but many other challenges of college life. Confronting doubts, apologetics training, the role of the church in the life of the college student, philosophical and worldview issues—all are on the table as part of this great conversation. Listen in, and tell a friend to do so as well! We are giving away a few copies of Surviving Religion 101. Register for the opportunity to win one. The books are a generous gift from our friends at Crossway.

Carl publicly concedes that he’s no match for our special guest’s husband after losing their “mustard-colored trouser” Facebook contest a few years ago. That guest is Catherine Stewart, and she’s the editor of Surviving the Fishbowl: Letters to Pastor’s Kids. Catherine reveals what motivated her to lead the project, assembling an exceptional host of contributors.  There is no doubt that pastor’s kids face many unique challenges just for being “PKs." Catherine reminds us that there is also great joy and opportunities for growth as they learn to love and serve the church. How should pastors and their wives talk to their kids about the occasional difficulties and discouragement that are part of pastoral ministry? On the other hand, how can the church be mindful and supportive of the pastor’s kids? We’re happy to offer you the opportunity to win a free copy of Surviving the Fishbowl. You must register to enter! The giveaway copies are a generous gift from our friends at Reformation Heritage Books.  

While Todd laments knowing Carl far too long, the professor tries to boost his brand by mentioning that he was recently referred to as “one of God’s gifts to humanity.” With egos finally in check, the pair introduce today’s guest. Proving they can’t resist a good squabble, our dynamic duo welcomes Thaddeus Williams who recently wrote Confronting Injustice without Compromising Truth. The acclaimed book debates whether Critical Race Theory is best understood as a comprehensive worldview rivaling Christianity or a useful tool to spot injustice. So, what is true oppression and how does Jesus define it? Who is a victim by Critical Race Theory standards? You’ll enjoy this captivating conversation! Register for the opportunity to win a free copy of Confronting Injustice without Compromising Truth. The books are a generous gift from our friends at Zondervan.

Once again Carl and Todd welcome a guest brave enough to make a return visit to the lions’ den. Craig Carter is research professor of theology at Tyndale University and theologian in residence at Westney Heights Baptist Church in Ajax, Ontario. Craig is renowned for producing some very fine work on recovering Trinitarian classical theism and classical metaphysics. His newest book is Contemplating God with the Great Tradition, the follow-up volume to 2018’s Interpreting Scripture with the Great Tradition. Dr. Carter grounds his theological argument for this book on the doctrine of God as expounded in the book of Isaiah. Why is this section so critical for the retrieval of classical theism in the Protestant tradition and what is its correlation to the Nicene Creed? What exactly is classical theism, and from whom does it encounter resistance? Some may say that classical theism “doesn’t preach,” meaning that it’s irrelevant and impractical for the Christian life. Find out why the professor politely disagrees! We are pleased to give away copies of Contemplating God with the Great Tradition. Register for the opportunity to win one! The books are a complimentary gift from our friends at Baker Academic. Show Notes · Interpreting Scripture with the Great Tradition

After Carl’s Freudian slip concerning his being a pastor, our resident professor/minister/author quickly recovers and gets back on track by introducing his sidekick and their special guest. Benjamin Fischer is a missionary priest of the Anglican Church of Rwanda, rector of Christ the Redeemer, a congregation in the Anglican Church of North America (ACNA), and the associate professor of Literary History at Northwest Nazarene University. Ben has translated and edited Being a Pastor: Pastoral Treatises of John Wycliffe. He sits down with Carl and Todd to discuss who Wycliffe was and why we should be interested in his work. We may know and enjoy some of Wycliffe’s legacy through a host of Reformers, but there’s much more to this translator, priest, and theologian than meets the eye. Benjamin shares fresh insight with us about this towering 14th-century thinker. We’re happy to offer you the opportunity to win a free copy of Being a Pastor. Register! The books are a generous gift from our friends at The Davenant Press. 

With the PCA General Assembly approaching soon, Todd needs to decompress…so, Carl meets him at our mythical “local pub” to act as his therapist. Of course, Professor Trueman doesn’t miss the chance to snub his old friend, and “rub in” the fact that Todd belongs to a boring and uncontroversial denomination (as if!). The call to love the brethren and be charitable toward one another is not only an honorable act—it’s a biblical command. But what happens when those words are used in a different context to persuade people to endorse positions that are cultural or political, rather than biblical? The two amigos discuss the content of a letter with questionable content that was anonymously sent to PCA ministers and elders preceding the General Assembly. Providing a foundation for understanding, Todd describes what some call the “Revoice Theology,” and shares his thoughts about what the upcoming GA means for the future of the denomination. As a premium and sign of hope, we’re pleased to be giving away a free membership to the Orthodox Presbyterian Church! Second prize is TWO free memberships (joking...we’re joking)! There are, however, a few acts of contrition the winners will have to perform in order to seal the deal…

Todd and Carl, now officially an American citizen, dive into the challenging subject of immigration. Together, they explore the theological concept of the "order of love," its implications for prioritizing our obligations to others, and how this intersects with the responsibilities of the State versus the Church. 

The situation is complicated. How do we navigate? How do we develop a hierarchy of loves and obligations that is faithful to Scripture but also handles the complexities that Scripture throws up? – Carl Trueman

In other words, how do we balance our responsibilities to our neighbors and the laws of the land? With references to contemporary issues and personal anecdotes, this episode challenges listeners to consider their perspectives on immigration and community, as Christians and citizens.

We are pleased to award Mortification of Spin swag to three of our listeners, including a t-shirt, a baseball cap, and a mug! Congratulations to John T. from Brandon, MS, Matthew A. from Westfield, MA, and Gill M. from Washington, NJ!

Our precocious pair shares a discussion of “Pride Month,” when big corporations, the media, and others strive to display their unwavering support for the LGBTQ+ movement. Carl and Todd take on everything from cartoons, to advertisements, to countless other means employed by “gender activists” to indoctrinate society and shape our children at a very early age. How might we develop persuasive apologetic arguments using Scripture, natural revelation, and natural law to defend a biblical view of human sexuality? Why are some strands of Protestantism opposed to the implications of natural law? Show Notes · Biblical Natural Law: A Theocentric and Theological Approach by Matthew Levering

Todd is thrilled to fly solo today as Carl dons his bathing attire (BMP) to soak up some much-needed sun at the Jersey shore. It’s just as well; Dr. Trueman doesn’t really get along with cheerful guests! Todd is delighted to share a fun conversation with Lisa Updike, the decidedly cheerful director of Children’s Ministry at Covenant Presbyterian Church (where Todd also serves). Lisa works closely with the discipleship ministry of the PCA and is the author of three wonderful children’s books. She talks about what seemed to be the focus of children’s ministries in the US for the past many years, and the pressing need to turn that around into equipping children to live in today’s world.  Should children know about the nature of suffering? How do we teach them? Should they be in “children’s church” or “adult church”? What can parents do to prepare their children for Sunday services? How can churches equip parents to teach children at home? Lisa shares some wonderful advice on such topics and suggests how we might equip our children to defend themselves—even engage—in the culture wars that have come to our doors. Show Notes and Resources ·The Bible is Not Boring! by Lisa Updike ·Church is Not Boring! by LIsa Updike ·About Being a Boy or a Girl: Discussing Gender and Marriage With Little Ones in Light of God’s Word by Lisa Updike ·Lisa’s Worship Service material (at the bottom of the linked webpage) ·Children and Suffering material ·SkitGuys.com

Anthony Selvaggio joins Carl and Todd today. He’s the pastor of Rochester Christian Reformed Church in NY, as well as a conference speaker and author. Considering Job: Reconciling Sovereignty and Suffering is the title of Anthony’s most recent book, and the topic of our conversation. The book of Job is one of the most complex found in Scripture, in part for its paradoxical nature in dealing with suffering. Anthony shares why he believes we should know this book well. Job brings to our attention questions about Satan and his activity in a way that is unlike most other books of the Bible. Does Scripture promise earthly well-being to those who do good and earthly discomforts for those who do evil? How do we make sense of what happened to Job? We are giving away a few copies of Considering Job, Reconciling Sovereignty and Suffering. Register for the opportunity to win one. The copies are a generous gift from our friends at Reformation Heritage Books.

Carl and Todd sit down to chat with an old friend. Sandy Finlayson is the library director and professor of Theological Bibliography at Westminster Theological Seminary. Carl leads the conversation by describing the genesis of the Free Church of Scotland and the men who led what was called “The Great Disruption.” Among them, we find Thomas Chalmers, one of the main leaders of the movement and the subject of Sandy’s academic interest.  In the Church of Scotland, who had the right to call a minister to the congregation–the state, the head of the church, or the parishioners? The many different opinions on the subject led to some denominational schism. Even if Scottish history is not your cup of tea, you will appreciate—and enjoy learning about—the Scotsman Thomas Chalmers’ public and private life, and about Presbyterian heritage. We are giving away some free copies of Chief Scottish Man. Register for the opportunity to win one! The copies are a generous gift from our friends at Evangelical Press Books.

Our special guest today is a prolific author, editor, mom of 4, pastor’s wife, and pastor’s daughter. Megan Hill joins Carl and Todd for an energetic conversation about her most recent book, Partners in the Gospel: 50 Meditations for Pastors’ and Elders’ Wives. Through her writing, Megan offers comfort and encouragement to wives as they encounter the joys and challenges of ministering alongside their husbands. Hill offers questions for reflection, topics to be lifted in prayer, and recommended action to be taken to challenge our natural sinful tendencies. Is there a specific and defined role for pastors’ and elders’ wives? How might they deal with criticism and loneliness, counseling their children while enduring scrutiny and high expectations from other church members? Megan shares sage advice learned from her parents that might very much enrich your life. Take note! Show Notes  •A Place to Belong: Learning to Love the Local Church by Megan Hill • Megan was a speaker at the 2021 Quakertown Women’s Conference Contentment in Christ  Partners in the Gospel is available for purchase at Reformed Resources.

Carl and Todd can truly say that they have “arrived” when they have the privilege to chat with former Cosmopolitan magazine writer Sue Ellen Browder! Our guest played an important role in the feminist movement and “sexual revolution” of the 1970s, 80s, and beyond. Sue’s story is compelling as she tells us about her “double life” as a happily married woman raising children, tending her garden, and baking fresh bread while writing made-up stories on feminism and sexual liberation. Can a media outlet have a manual on how to write fake news to accomplish the desired outcome? You’ll hear about some of those stories today. Browder explains the radically distinctive movements that were at play in the 1960s and early 70s—the “Sexual Revolution” and the “Women’s Movement” that later united to achieve a common goal—and you can probably guess just what their purpose was! Hear how Sue realized what she was doing, turned from that path to make things right, and now offers sage advice for parents and young people in today’s society. Show Notes Sex and the Catholic Feminist by Sue Ellen Browder

Walking away from the faith is a phenomenon as old as humanity itself…but a recent “twist” has emerged in how some high-profile Christians choose to abandon their beliefs. Today, Todd attempts to school Carl on the cyber world of TikTok as the dynamic duo discusses one recent and disturbing “deconversion.” The two are talking about Abraham Piper; he’s the son of John Piper, the well-known pastor and founder of the ministry Desiring God. Abraham has attracted a lot of attention as he uses the big platforms of social media and prominent publications to spread his personal story, mock Christianity, and profit from it all. With Abraham being just one of several influencers to publicly “deconvert” here of late, what does it say about them…about us…about the faith in general, and our fascination with “Christian celebrities? Listen and weigh in on this tragic topic. Register for the opportunity to win a free copy of the fresh-off-the-press book, “Surviving Religion 101: Letters to a Christian Student on Keeping the Faith in College” by Michael Kruger. The copies are a generous gift from our friends at Crossway.

“A thorn in the side of the Archbishop of York.” That’s how our special guest is introduced today. Reverend Melvin Tinker was the vicar of St. John’s Newland in England for many years. He’s now the director of Theology of the Christ Church Network and the author of an amazing book entitled That Hideous Strength, addressing cultural Marxism in society and in the church. Now in a second expanded edition, the book challenges Christians to understand the culture in which they are ministering and the battle they face against the “War of Position." How has the Church contributed to the spreading of Marxist ideas, and what must be done to reverse it? How crucial is language in ideological warfare? Pull up a chair and join this conversation of ultimate relevance and importance!   Show Notes ·Antonio Gramsci’s War of Position  ·Sir David Lindsey ·“Useful Idiot” political jargon Register for the opportunity to win a free copy of That Hideous Strength. The copies are a generous gift from our friends at EP Books. Click here to learn more about Reverend Tinker, or here for a list of his publications. 

Race and Covenant   Our delightful duo is honored with a visit from a special guest. Gerry McDermott is an old friend and former Anglican Chair of Divinity at Samford’s Beeson Divinity School. He’s a prolific author, writing brilliantly on a wide variety of subjects ranging from theology and philosophy to famous stutterers. Just a few months ago, McDermott edited Race and Covenant, a collection of essays ignited by the desire to uncover–in the light of Scripture–why race became the number one issue in the country after the presidential election of 2008.    Race and Covenant is the work of several very articulate thinkers–Christians and Jews from different traditions, and people from different races and ethnicities contributing their perspectives on the topic. Where does the word “covenant” fit when addressing race? Is there any good to be found in Critical Race Theory? Listen closely to this important conversation, and be sure to share it with a friend!   Show Notes   ·  Institute on Religion and Democracy ·  Robert L. Woodson ·  The Elect: The Threat to a Progressive America from Anti-Black Antiracists ·  Carol M. Swain ·  Derryck Green ·  Glenn C. Loury ·  Voddie Baucham   Register for the opportunity to win a free copy of Race and Covenant: Recovering the Religious Roots for American Reconciliation. The books come compliments of the Acton Institute.

The evangelical world has been shaken once again by the news of yet another influential leader’s tattered reputation. Ravi Zacharias was a prominent Christian speaker, writer, and apologist for over 4 decades. He spoke from the platforms of renowned institutions and college campuses all around the world. Although there were early questions about Zacharias’s inflated qualifications, a different kind of scandal was confirmed after his death last year. Carl and Todd raise a few questions about the “celebrity culture,” and how it is often immune to criticism. Sadly, serious character flaws involving sex, money, and power may then go unchecked. What should one who’s been helped by such leaders feel about that influence? Join us for a poignant and very necessary conversation. Visit our online store for numerous helpful resources addressing the many challenges of the Christian life.

In this episode of Mortification of Spin, Carl and Todd engage in a thought-provoking discussion with Brad Littlejohn, director of Programs and Education at American Compass, about Brad's newly published book, Call to Freedom: Retrieving Christian Liberty in an Age of License.  

Christians in the modern West hear a lot about—and talk a lot about—"freedom." The word has taken on so many meanings that Christians often fail to realize how much our contemporary ideals of freedom stray from what freedom has meant in Scripture and the Christian tradition.

We need to redeem and recover a properly Christian way of thinking about freedom. – Carl Trueman

Today's conversation touches on the Reformation's impact on individual liberty, the tension between authority and conscience, and the contemporary challenges Christians face in understanding freedom. 

As Protestants, we have to care about freedom because it's central to our theological heritage. – Brad Littlejohn

Tune in for an insightful exploration of these critical themes!

Thanks to the generosity of B&H Academic, we are pleased to award three copies of Brad's book, Call to Freedom: Retrieving Christian Liberty in an Age of License, to our listeners. Congratulations to Jonathan M. from Columbia, SC, Nancy J. from Albuquerque, NM, and Sean M. from Asheville, SC!

 

Show Notes:

Call to Freedom: Retrieving Christian Liberty in an Age of License

https://bhacademic.bhpublishinggroup.com/product/called-to-freedom-3/#flipbook-sampler/

Our special guest today makes a return visit to the podcast, which can only mean that Carl and Todd have not ruined his reputation (well at least, not yet)!  Among the many hats he wears, Matthew Barrett is associate professor of Christian Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Theological retrieval is a process close to Matthew’s heart, and his latest book—Simply Trinity: The Unmanipulated Father, Son, and Spirit—advances the conversation. What do the church fathers have to teach us today about the nature of the Trinity? Matthew addresses the word “unmanipulated,” and how the Holy Trinity is regularly co-opted to represent the positions of government, political parties, family dynamics, and even a social view of the environment. Why are some Christians skeptical of systematic theology and anything philosophical? How does philosophy aid us with theology? Join us for a fascinating discussion. And for more on this topic, don't miss PCRT Live--the 2021 Philadelphia Conference on Reformed Theology. Our theme is Delighting in Our Triune God. Learn more here. Show Notes · Credo magazine · Best Kansas City BBQ according to Matthew Barrett · Purchase a copy of Simply Trinity from ReformedResources.org. We are pleased to offer you the opportunity to win a free copy of Simply Trinity: The Unmanipulated Father, Son, and Spirit. Register here! The books are a gift from our friends at Baker Publishing. 

Learning from the Smyth-Fletcher Abuse Carl flies solo today as he speaks with the Rev. Dr. Peter Sanlon, an old friend and a minister in the Anglican Church in the UK. Their conversation is a somber one dealing with a horrific scandal of abuse that has emerged in the past couple of years involving a prominent Anglican minister, the Reverend Jonathan Fletcher. The full report of the abuses made public just a week ago is challenging to understand when reviewed on this side of the Atlantic, due to its cultural and religious context. Peter provides background information and explains the connection with another prominent name, the late John Smyth. What about the victims who have come forward? Is there a system in place to care for them, and how is that done? The notes below link to additional information about the scandal and to a charity where victims can find help.  Show Notes: Support for victims or those affected by Fletcher: Email thirtyone:eight charity in confidence for details of fund to provide counseling: ecwsupportfund@thirtyoneeight.org Reviews on Smyth: https://soulinformation.org/su-report-executive-summary thirtyone:eight review on Fletcher: https://walkingwith.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/Final+Report+of+ECW+Review_March+2021.pdf IAG statement on Fletcher review: https://soulinformation.org/iagstatement Learning about abuse: https://soulinformation.org/video-resources The Making of Them by Nick Duffell We’re pleased to offer an important resource on this topic. Register for the opportunity to win a free copy of Something’s Not Right: Decoding the Hidden Tactics of Abuse and Freeing Yourself from Its Power. The books are a generous gift from our friends at Tyndale Momentum.

Today’s special guest dared to ask questions and present statements from healthcare experts and transgender patients three years ago in his book When Harry Became Sally: Responding to the Transgender Moment. Now, he’s been blacklisted and canceled by big tech.    Ryan T. Anderson worked for many years at the Heritage Foundation and helped found Public Discourse, a journal of the Witherspoon Institute. He’s recently become the president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center in Washington, D.C., a conservative think tank "dedicated to applying the Judeo-Christian moral tradition to critical public policy issues."   A few weeks back, Ryan made headlines after When Harry Became Sally was banned from Amazon. The online behemoth’s decision has raised many questions about trans-ideology and its impact on society—about censorship, big tech, business monopoly, and the lack of accountability of powerful institutions. Carl, Todd, and Ryan sit down to discuss the long-term implications of this kind of censorship and what could lie ahead.     Show Notes   ·  The Heritage Foundation ·  Public Discourse · Ethics and Public Policy Center (EPPC)  

After revealing some details of their personal lives, Carl and Todd get down to business. Seems a disturbing phenomenon is plaguing churches all over the country. Since the lockdown, many Christians have become too comfortable with worshipping from home over a screen…dressed in their jammies, eating donuts, and—quite possibly—not really worshipping at all.  Does it really matter? What are people missing by not going back to church as restrictions are slowly being lifted? Our favorite duo discuss the meaning and importance of “being bodily present” for the different traditions like the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and the Protestant. Is there any place for live streaming, and any reason not to physically gather for worship? It’s time to weigh in. Oh, and notice who’s playing the optimist this time! Today's program originally aired 9/30/20.

The cancel culture mob never sleeps, and this time they’re after one of the most well-known evangelical pastors and writers of our day. Max Lucado recently came under fire for a message he preached and an article he wrote in 2004 holding the view that marriage is between one man and one woman.  Our duo takes on Lucado’s response and all that followed when his “crime,’ according to the mob, was exposed. How can the average Christian defend his or her beliefs when top evangelical leaders falter in their response to such accusations? Can “faithful people disagree” about what the Bible says about homosexuality? Join us for a timely and useful conversation! We are pleased to offer the opportunity to win a copy of a very relevant book on the topic. Register to win a free copy of That Hideous Strength by Melvin Tinker. The books are a gift from our friends at Evangelical Press.

American culture has been moving in a progressive direction at breakneck speed, with it, the language employed to define the trends. Today, Carl and Todd explore the meaning of “Cancel Culture” and the latest “cancellation” of a prominent conservative voice by one of the most powerful corporations in the country. Ryan T. Anderson, who has been a guest on this podcast, was recently “canceled” for his book on transgenderism (“When Harry Became Sally”), which challenges the mainstream sexual orthodoxy and points out the dangers of body mutilation. What’s the significance of this book being removed from a major online retailer? Should we be alarmed? Join us for a timely and important conversation.  Show Notes ·Listen to Ryan’s interview when “When Harry Became Sally” was first published. ·About Ryan T. Anderson ·How Ryan Anderson’s Banned Book ‘When Harry Became Sally’ Helped Me With Gender Dysphoria.

Christian education is highly regarded among Reformed Christians, and for good reason. Teaching young believers the basics of the faith and helping the mature ones swim the deep waters of the catholicity of our creeds and confessions has been, for many years, a passion and mission of today’s guest. Lane Tipton is pastor at Trinity Orthodox Presbyterian Church in Easton, PA, and a fellow of Biblical and Systematic Theology at the Reformed Forum. Tipton sits down with Carl and Todd to share how an end goal of teaching and preaching deepens his commitment to help Christians in every stage of faith become fully mature in Christ. Lane points out the importance of systematic theology in preaching, and that Christ’s presence in the Old Testament grows organically through the pages of Scripture, rendering an important means to develop our understanding of the whole of Scripture. Is the mission of the Old Testament merely to point us to Jesus in the New Testament? How may one preach the OT without repeatedly making the same point? Tune in for this week’s conversation, and learn how you can take full advantage of the resources offered by the Reformed Forum. Show Notes · About Reformed Forum 

Evil has plagued humanity since the Garden of Eden…and has obviously clouded Carl's judgement. In today’s conversation, the brash Brit attempts to pass as a native Texan, just because he’s been to a Willie Nelson concert at Billy Bob’s wearing cowboy boots and a Stetson. Take a moment to picture the hideous spectacle… Todd, a true native of the Lone Star State, welcomes recent Texas transplant Scott Christensen for a conversation about his most recent work, What about Evil. In the book, Scott addresses the perennial question: “If God exists, and if He’s good, then why does He allow evil?” Perhaps the answer may be found in the unchanging nature of God. Join us for a most useful discussion! We are pleased to offer our listeners the opportunity to win a free copy of What about Evil? Register! Show Notes · About Scott Christensen

Carl and Todd meet to discuss a prevalent problem in the church: spiritual abuse. We know it happens, but pinpointing spiritual abuse in the church—then, working to resolve it--requires a great deal of care and wisdom.  What actually constitutes “spiritual abuse?” Do being confronted, offended, or simply hearing something you don’t like count as forms of abuse? How has the therapeutic culture we live in changed the conversation, even the language employed? Who are more likely to be abused--ministers or congregants? Our hosts weigh in with insight based on personal experience, and offer advice about tools that could help curb abuse in the church. Show Notes ·Evangelicals and Race Theory by Carl Trueman

Michael Hanby is associate professor of Religion and Philosophy of Science at the Pontifical John Paul II Institute for Studies on Marriage and Family at the Catholic University of America. Dr. Hanby is in today to discuss recent societal changes that are taking place at breakneck speed.  The concept of gay marriage may seem almost conservative these days, considered alongside the issues we all now face. How have once unthinkable sexual standards so quickly become the norm in the political and public sphere? How should one think and operate in a society experiencing such rapid change? Show Notes · The Brave New World of Same Sex Marriage article by Michael Hanby · The Abolition of Man and Woman article by Michael Hanby · The Abolition of Man by C.S. Lewis

In this poignant episode, Todd and Carl welcome author Whitney Pipkin to discuss her book, We Shall All Be Changed: How Facing Death with Loved Ones Transforms Us. Drawing from her own experience, Whitney sheds light and hope, reminding us that we are not alone in our grief. And she reveals the mysterious way God ministers to and transforms us through death and suffering.

"The places you are most afraid to go, feel most ill-equipped to venture to, are the places Christ has gone before you." – Whitney Pipkin

Tune in as they explore how facing mortality can lead to deeper faith and understanding.

This is coming for each of us. How then shall we live? This is the question that each of us has the opportunity to consider at a funeral, but also when we read the news and when loss is far away, and when it's close, really close to home. – Whitney Pipkin

Thanks to the generosity of Moody Publishing, we are pleased to give away three copies of Whitney Pipkin’s book, We Shall All Be Changed: How Facing Death with Loved Ones Transforms Us. Congratulations to our winners: Katherine A. from Waterman, IL, Greg P. from Greenville, SC, and Timothy S. from Avondale, AZ!

 

Show Notes:

Whitney Pipkin’s Book https://www.moodypublishers.com/we-shall-all-be-changed/

CRT (Carl R. Trueman) joins co-host Todd Pruitt, who is primed and ready for today’s discussion of…CRT! Critical Race Theory has seeped into the church—even reaching some more conservative branches of Protestantism—and it’s rapidly gaining ground. What is critical race theory? Carl makes the connection with identity politics as he describes his recent article that demonstrates CRT is another seductive facet of Marxism, trying to solve the problem of evil using oppressor/oppressed categories.  How should the church work through issues of race without failing to address the other challenges of our day? Are “victim and victimizer” biblical concepts? Don’t miss this timely conversation! Show Notes ·Evangelicals and Race Theory by Carl Trueman ·American political activist, philosopher, and author Angela Davis ·Reclaiming the Atonement: An Orthodox Theology of Redemption by Patrick Henry Reardon  ·Carl’s review of Race and Covenant by Gerald McDermott

With Todd hopelessly delayed by an extended hair styling appointment, Carl alone sits down to chat with our special guest. At the table is Andrew Walker, associate professor of Christian Ethics and Apologetics, associate dean of the School of Theology, and executive director of the Carl F. H. Henry Institute for Evangelical Engagement, all at Southern Baptist Seminary. Andrew’s also an editor and writer for several publications. Simply put, Andrew is an expert in making the Gospel practical, plausible, real, and effective in the daily affairs of modern society—the very topic of today’s conversation. Andrew defines Natural Law, explaining how it informs morality, free speech, and religious freedom—each, an area of great concern for every American.  Show Notes · About Andrew T. Walker · Liberty for All by Andrew T. Walker upcoming book

Life is full of tragedy, sadness, and suffering. Scripture is replete with such stories from Genesis to Revelation. Why is there suffering? Why do Christians suffer? Is there any hope to be found in the midst of suffering? Carl and Todd sit down with Mark Talbot, associate professor of Philosophy at Wheaton College, who has written a very helpful book entitled When the Stars Disappear: Help and Hope from the Stories of Suffering in Scripture. Mark shares the reasons he wrote the book, and an interesting perspective on suffering…including how humans dealt with suffering in times past, and the way we see and deal with suffering in the present. Pull up a seat and join us for this personal and relatable conversation. Show Notes ·Acts 27 and 28  ·“When Suffering is Redemptive/Redeeming a Life of Paralysis,” a free download from ReformedResources.org  We have several copies of When the Stars Disappear that we would like to give away. Register for the opportunity to win one. The books are a generous gift from our friends at Crossway.