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| #1153 Microsoft’s Inbox Makeover: Time to Pull Your Own Weeds | Ellen McDowell | 15 Jun 2025 | 00:11:17 | |
If you've been around here for a while, you already know—I’m an email marketing geek. Not the kind of geek who builds robots in her basement, but the kind who gets excited about subject lines and open rates the way some folks get excited about the first tulips of the season. That’s why chatting with Ellen McDowell Strauss felt like talking to an old friend who also happens to alphabetize her spice rack. Ellen and I first connected over our mutual affection for email, but our latest conversation had a more urgent tone—thanks to Microsoft’s recent announcement that could throw a wrench in the way we all send emails. If email is your small business’s secret weapon, it’s time to sharpen it. Main Points from the Conversation:
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| #1152 Go Broad To Reach Your Niche | Matt Diamante | 08 Jun 2025 | 00:11:31 | |
You know, I’ve spent years telling business owners to get laser-focused. Find your niche, talk to your niche, sell to your niche. It’s like that old saying: “You can’t please everyone, so pick your people.” But every once in a while, someone comes along and flips my perfectly organized marketing world on its head. That someone was Matt Diamante, founder of Hey Tony, a marketing agency that helps small business owners tackle SEO and social media in ways that actually work. When Matt pitched me the idea of going broad to find your niche, I raised an eyebrow — and then I leaned in. Because sometimes, you have to plant wildflower seeds everywhere before you find out which patch of soil will let your business bloom. Start Broad to Get Noticed Matt shared how narrowing his content too quickly meant missing out on visibility. Early SEO how-to videos flopped because algorithms didn’t know where to send them. By widening his content to appeal to a broader audience, he started generating massive reach — and, surprisingly, attracting the exact people he wanted. Make Social Content Personal and Entertaining The trick isn’t just broad topics, it’s how you deliver them. Matt started adding humor, behind-the-scenes moments with his wife, and simple SEO tips framed like secret hacks. This authentic, entertaining style helped his videos go viral while quietly establishing his expertise. Convert Viral Attention with Consistent, Niche-Focused Follow-Ups Even though viral videos brought millions of eyeballs, the real strategy was in publishing one to three pieces of content daily, mixing broad appeal with posts targeted to DIY business owners. Those niche posts turned casual viewers into inquiries and, eventually, paying clients. Work Within Your Capacity, But Stay Consistent Matt emphasized that your content output depends on your business goals and available time. When he had more time, he posted several times a day. But the real advice is to do as much as you realistically can, because marketing is often the first thing people drop — and the last thing they should. People Buy from People, Not Logos Matt’s final nugget: don’t outsource your social media presence. Especially for small businesses, people want to see the face behind the brand. A good example? Judy’s Family Cafe, where the owner turned goofy viral clips into personal invitations to her restaurant. It’s proof that personality-powered content connects. Try These Simple Steps to Launch Your Go Broad Campaign Test wide topics to see what gets attention, even if it feels unrelated to your core niche at first. Infuse humor, personal moments, and relatable scenarios into your content. People want to connect with people, not textbook tutorials. Balance broad reach with targeted follow-up posts aimed at your ideal customer. Viral reach brings them in — niche content converts. Commit to a realistic, consistent posting schedule. If you can manage a post a day, great. If it’s twice a week, start there. Just don’t disappear. Own your presence. Your followers want you, not a generic brand. Show up, be seen, and let them get to know the person behind the business. | |||
| #1143 Four "P's of People | Dave Charest | 06 Apr 2025 | 00:10:54 | |
Marketing is all about connections, but too often, we skip over the most important piece—people. Sure, we love talking about product, price, place, and promotion, but what about the humans behind the strategy? That’s why I brought back Dave Dave Charest, Director of Small Business Success at Constant Contact, for a lively chat about the Four P’s of People—peers, pros, patrons, and promoters. Spoiler: your next marketing breakthrough might come from focusing less on what you’re posting and more on who you’re talking to. Peers Are Your Marketing Wingmen Think of your peers as your brainstorming buddies—the business owners and marketers walking the same path. Sure, they might be in your industry, but they’re not your competition. Instead, they’re allies who can share insights, lessons learned, and even a little encouragement. As Dave put it, peers can help you grow by sharing their own roadmaps to success. Pros: Your Marketing Role Models These are the businesses that make you say, “I want to do that someday.” Dave suggested following pros for inspiration—whether it’s how they craft campaigns or how they interact with their audience. Even better, engaging with their content can lead to new connections with like-minded people. Think of pros as your north star for what’s possible. Patrons Keep the Lights On Your customers are your patrons, the folks who not only pay the bills but also provide a goldmine of feedback. Whether you’re creating posts to entertain, educate, or answer their questions, keeping this group engaged can spark deeper loyalty. And when they engage with your content, their networks notice, bringing you closer to your next batch of clients. Promoters Are Your Secret Weapon Promoters are the people who sing your praises, often loudly and without being asked. They may not even be customers themselves, but they believe in what you’re doing and love sharing it with their communities. Dave reminded me that it’s worth nurturing those relationships—comment on their posts, cheer them on, and show them the love they show you. Remember, success isn’t about shouting your message into the void. It’s about listening, building relationships, and connecting with the people who matter most to your business. Dave CharestDave Charest is the Director of Small Business Success at Constant Contact, the online marketing leader trusted by millions of small businesses. In his role, Dave acts as an educator and an advocate for small business leaders, marketing professionals, and nonprofits by providing practical marketing advice to help them achieve their goals. He is a dynamic leader, speaker, creator, and award-winning marketer who strives to inspire small businesses by simplifying the complex world of online marketing. Dave also hosts the Be a Marketer podcast, a 2024 Webby Awards Honoree.
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| #1053 Sell Your Authority | 05 Sep 2024 | 00:11:57 | |
I had a wonderful conversation with Josh Elledge about strategies for generating inbound leads and moving away from outdated, spammy marketing tactics. Here are the key points from their conversation:
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| #1052 Let Email Work for You | Kendra Corman | 03 Sep 2024 | 00:11:59 | |
I am an email marketing fan so I was excited to invite Kendra Corman to join me for a conversation on how to make email marketing effective. She started by explaining why email is so important. Sure it is great to build a community on social media, but what will you do if Facebook goes down or cuts off your profile. You are stuck. But if you have email addresses, you own those contacts and can take them wherever you want. You have the flexibility to contact them when you want and to share information they want and need to know.
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| #1051 It Takes a Village to Raise a Business | 01 Sep 2024 | 00:01:19 | |
Every parent knows, It takes a village to raise a child. Each of the adults in the child’s life, relatives, teachers, coaches, brings a different perspective. The same is true for your business. No matter how smart you are or how much you know about your business, there are gaps in your skill-set. Your business village should be filled with smart, talented subject matter experts to help you fill in the gaps. If you are running a small business your village won’t be comprised of employees, but an advisory board comprised of professionals, who provide information and guidance in their areas of expertise. Who Do You Need in Your Business Village? (On your advisory board) Your AttorneyYour attorney’s primary objective is to protect you and your business from risk. As you start you business your attorney can advise you on the right structure for your business and submit appropriate state and federal documents. As you business grows turn to your attorney for a range of legal documents such as contracts, non-disclosure agreements, and non-compete agreements with employees. An attorney who is familiar with your business makes the process of creating new documents much more efficient because you won’t have to start each review by explaining what your business is about. Your AccountantThere are bookkeepers, financial accountants and tax accountants. Which do you need? Well that depends on your comfort level with the numbers of your business. A bookkeeper keeps your day to day operations on track, paying bills and invoicing clients. A financial accountant is someone who can provide guidance not just bookkeeping assistance. Your accountant should prepare financial reports on a monthly basis and review key numbers with you. Your accountant should be able to help you predict if you have enough cash to meet future obligations and growth goals. A tax accountant does more than just prepare your tax returns, understanding your business, he/she can help you make decisions about when to invest, when to pull back, and how to avoid paying more than you should in taxes each year. Your BankerThe worst time to establish a banking relationship is when you need money. As you start your business get to know your local business banker. He/she will advise you on the types of accounts you will need, develop a cash management strategy, and secure funding when you need it. Your Financial PlannerFor many small business owners, the business is your retirement plan. The question is will this be enough? Don’t guess. A good financial planner will look at both your personal and business finances to make sure you have what you need when you are ready to walk away from the business. Your IT and Marketing SupportSure, you can manage your computers and software on your own. You can post content on social media and call it marketing, but just like every other element of your business, you need to stop and ask yourself, should you? Is this the best use of your time, and do you really have the expertise to manage those roles in house. If not, it is time to add these professionals to your team. In both cases, the industry is changing rapidly. You need people on your advisory board who understand both the trends and your business objectives. Lean on them to make the right suggestions about where and when to invest so you can focus on growing your business. Build Your Business VillageSure you may own your own business, but you don’t have to do it all on your own. Start building your village today. Don’t try to do it all at once. Find someone in one of these categories and enlist their aid in filling the other slots on your advisory board.
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| #1050 Survey Your Way to Success | 29 Aug 2024 | 00:12:31 | |
Mickey Kennedy, founder of eReleases joined me for another conversation about building your authority and online visibility. This time we talked about the importance of using surveys and studies to stand out as a subject matter authority. Why does this strategy work? First of all the media loves data. Fresh data from industry-specific surveys can attract media attention. You can use a platform like SurveyMonkey to create a 16-question survey, including some fun or unusual questions to capture interest. You don't need to do it on your own. consider partnering with small or independent trade associations to distribute your survey. These associations often seek media attention and can help amplify your survey in exchange for being mentioned in the press release. This strategy works because the survey results helps position you as an industry expert so once you are done conducting the survey, create a dedicated page on your website with all questions and responses. Highlight key findings in your press release and direct journalists to this page, potentially leading to more coverage. . Share resulting media coverage on your website, social media, and newsletters to build trust and credibility with potential customers as well. If you’ve enjoyed this conversation sign up for a weekly newsletter get links to episodes you might have missed and other resources for your business https://morethanafewwords.com/avoid-fomo/ | |||
| #1049 New Sales from Old Clients | 27 Aug 2024 | 00:10:51 | |
What is the fastest least expensive way to get clients? Guest, Gall Doby suggests there is one strategy that people often ignore, and it’s right in front of them. Looking for new sales? Start with your current clients. Almost every single client ( assuming you are doing a good job) will be willing to do business with you in a different way. Maybe it is an add-on to their project, a few more things and they hadn’t originally considered or an entirely different project. It’s so much easier to go to your current clients and try to add something on to a project. Then right behind that group are your past clients. Both of these groups know, like and trust you so it is one of the easiest, fastest and the cheapest ways to get more business.
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| #1048 The Buying Journey | 25 Aug 2024 | 00:02:14 | |
Let’s go on a buying journey. Think about the last item that you bought, where you spent more than $100. Maybe it was something for your business or home. Write down the item you bought and work backwards through your buying journey. Describe why you chose that particular product. Did you see an ad? Did someone recommended it? Was there information on social media which made you curious? Write down all of the things you remember related to that purchase. For example, we recently installed new windows in our house. Before we bought the windows, we talked to a few of our neighbors, checked. Angie’s List, and then we went to the company website. Do this exercise two or three times for different types of purchases, so you get a better picture of your typical buying process. What information sources to you rely on and what influenced you? Next, build your customer’s buying journey the same way. Evaluate your marketing based on your typical buying process. If you were a customer for your product or service, would you notice your marketing? If the answer is yes, that’s great. if you are your target customer. If you’re not your target customer, you got some work to do. Ask several of your customers about their buying journey and see how that lines up with your marketing. Make sure you are spending money on marketing to enhance their buying journey. The trick for small business owners is not to spend more money, but to spend well, making investments designed to motivate customers to pay attention to you.
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| #1047 What is the Right Price | Janene Liston | 22 Aug 2024 | 00:11:55 | |
Janine Liston, a business strategist and pricing expert, joined me for a conversation about the complexities and strategies behind setting the right price for products and services. Here are a few key takeaways:
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| #1046 - Stop Living Small | Connie Jones | 20 Aug 2024 | 00:10:57 | |
Did you miss this conversation with Connie Jones about limiting beliefs? Then you want to check it out now. We create these upper limits for ourselves fueled by messages we have received starting early on in childhood about who we are and who we are not. And who we are supposed to be. We create patterns of playing roles that are consistent with those messages, but sometimes the messages are wrong and the pattern becomes a trap. To break the cycle of limiting beliefs, you must first identify the belief, recognize it is creating your reality and chose to change what you believe. Often it stars with simply acting “as if” until the new behavior becomes natural and you being to believe you can do or be more. | |||
| #1045 Words Have Power | 18 Aug 2024 | 00:02:39 | |
Words have the power to move, motivate, inspire, frighten, and cheer. What you say and how you say it can have a profound impact on another person. And some words, called power words, have more impact than others. These words have a strong meaning which is likely to trigger a psychological or emotional response. They are persuasive, pushing people to take action. Power words fall in to one of three categories: seductive, emotional, or sensory (visual). As you write web copy, email communication, and social media status updates, employing these powerful phrases will help you grab and hold the attention of a reader. Seductive Power WordsThese terms have the ability to “seduce” readers, overriding logical reasoning and compelling them to take action. Examples of seductive words include:
Tapping into human emotions with your headlines is more challenging. There isn’t a short list of emotional words that always works. Instead you need to consider the emotions themselves and find ways to tap into them. Common emotions which will drive action include fear, jealousy, curiosity, joy, surprise, anger, disgust, trust, and anticipation. Not all emotions will work the same way. For example, anger may cause someone to share something on social media, but not purchase a product or a service. In contrast, fear or jealousy may drive someone to take action and buy. Some studies indicate people are more likely to take action to avoid negative outcomes than to achieve positive ones. Example: What do your competitors know that you don’t? That question is designed to elicit fear from the reader. Sensory Power WordsSensory words paint a picture in the mind of the reader. These descriptive words are designed to activate one or more of the senses. They describe how we experience the world: how we smell, see, hear, feel, or taste something. Engage the eyes with words related to colors, shape, or appearance. For instance: gloomy, dazzling, bright, foggy, or gigantic. Make something tangible when you describe textures. These same words can be applied to feelings and abstract concepts also such as gritty, creepy, slimy, fluffy, or sticky. When you read words like cha-ching, kaboom, or pow, you can almost hear the sounds. Other descriptive words such as crashing, pounding, or ringing will engage the reader’s auditory sense. Especially helpful if you are writing about food, words related to taste and smell may get your prospective reader salivating for your product. Many of these words like zesty, tantalizing, sweet, stinky, or stale will transform bland copy. Remember that motion is sensory, too. Active words such as vibrating, soaring, mind-boggling, staggering, or bumpy take the reader on a journey with you
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| 1044 Social Media for Business Owners, Not Celebrities | Lindsey Anderson | 15 Aug 2024 | 00:10:26 | |
I love chatting with Lindsey Anderson, and it has been awhile since this seasoned online business consultant, bestselling author, and podcast host, dropped by for a chat. It this conversation we talked about her experience as a play in a reality TV game ( The Trust) and what she learned about using social media effectively as a business owner rather than as an influencer. Lindsey introduced her VEMS model, which is designed to help business owners build a compelling social media presence that drives sales and engagement. The model consists of four key components:
About Lindsey indsey Anderson is an accomplished online business consultant with over 20 years of experience as a digital marketing business owner. She is also a best-selling author and podcast host. Leveraging her deep knowledge in marketing and sales, Lindsey helps brands reach their dream clients and scale their business online through her proven strategies, systems and sales methodologies. LEARN MORE: https://www.lindseya.com/ | |||
| #1142 Best Teachers are Always Learning | Tina Bakehouse | 29 Mar 2025 | 00:11:36 | |
Tina Bakehouse is living proof that even the best teachers are always learning. As an intuitive communication coach, she’s built a reputation for helping others communicate with confidence and authenticity. But as she shares in this conversation, her early days in business were filled with valuable lessons—especially about getting clear on her offers. Like many of us, Tina learned that trying to be everything to everyone only leads to confusion. It’s a little like showing up at a potluck with five half-baked dishes—your guests won’t know where to start, and chances are, nothing gets devoured. Here are some key insights from Tina’s journey:
For business owners juggling multiple products or services, Tina’s journey is a reminder that less is often more. Get clear on your offer, tailor it to the moment, and align your work with what fuels your energy. When you do, success stops feeling like a chaotic balancing act and starts to flow naturally. Tina Bakehouse is passionate, experienced, intuitive communication consultant & coach, storyteller, creative, and NEW AUTHOR of the book Discovering Our Magnetic Speaker Within.
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| #1043 Maybe You Should Buy a Business | Deb Curtis | 13 Aug 2024 | 00:10:49 | |
As business owners try to grow their business they assume they have to do it organically. The problem with the organic approach is you have to be patient. It takes time for the business to mature and grow. But that is not the only way to grow. Your path to success might include merging with another company or through the acquisition of another business. Deb Curtis, an expert in SBA-Supported Business Acquisition Loans & Smooth Ownership Transitions shares a few tips and things to consider before you jump into acquisition mode | |||
| 1042 What Do Other People Say About You | that is Your Real Brand | Lorraine Ball | 11 Aug 2024 | 00:01:03 | |
What do you want people to say about you when you're not in the room. What do you want them to tell people. who are looking for someone who does what you do? All of those comments add up to your personal brand. Now a lot of business owners are under the misconception that somehow they control their brand. But they don't. Your brand is something that exists in the mind of your customers. All you can do is influence it with your marketing messages and your actions and over time you will create a brand representative of who you are. Looking for more resources on branding and positioning? Start with the position statement workbook | |||
| #1041 How Women Can Survive and Thrive in the Tech Industry | Sharon Gillenwater | 08 Aug 2024 | 00:11:14 | |
If you’re a woman business owner or thinking about becoming one, there are unique challenges you’ll face compared to your male counterparts. However, success is achievable, as demonstrated by Sharon Gillenwater, a tech startup founder who sold her company, Boardroom Insiders, for $25 million. Here are a few key points from our conversation. Funding and Networking Obstacles: Women receive only about 2% of venture funding. Additionally, if you’re not part of the entrepreneurial network, gaining access to funding and talent can be tough. It’s crucial to build a network of contacts who can guide and support you. Importance of Clear Planning and Communication: If you are preparing to seek funding, be sure you can clearly articulate your business idea, model, and market. Talk to to as many knowledgeable people as possible to refine your plan and pitch Keeping Financial Records Clean: Sharon shared a personal lesson on the importance of keeping business finances separate from personal finances. The take-away - Proper record-keeping from the start can prevent complications when your business grows or when you’re ready to sell. Customer Focus: Despite skepticism from funders and industry experts, Sharon’s focus on customer satisfaction proved to be a key factor in her success. She advises ignoring the naysayers and listening to your customers.
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| #1040 Finding Your Voice | 06 Aug 2024 | 00:16:48 | |
One of the advantages of having more than 1,000 episodes in my archive, is the wealth of great information buried there. This week I dug way back, to find a conversation I had with Allison Carter back in 2013, when she was my regular co-host. We always had a good time, but I really loved this conversation about finding your brand voice.
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| #1039 Creativity is a Round Process | 04 Aug 2024 | 00:03:49 | |
The Creative Process
I am often asked, why I chose to name my company “Roundpeg.” The obvious answer was because I spent all those years in corporate, feeling like a square peg in a round hole, and this is where I fit! But there is more to the story. I wanted to build a business around the ideas of creativity, collaboration, and positive energy, and for me, creativity begins with a “R.O.U.N.D” process. R.O.U.N.D: Research, Originate, Unite, Nurture, Do It! ResearchIf you want creative output, you need creative input! Collecting a variety of information, without worrying how it fits, is the foundation of the research phase. Input comes from everywhere, what you read, what you see when you are out for a walk, what you learn from others.
The second step is the most fun. In this phase, everything is possible. The process works well with a diverse group, people with very different skills, personality styles, and experience. Make sure everyone in the room understands, there are no bad ideas and no limitations. Keep the sessions short so the energy stays high, but remember some people are more comfortable thinking out loud and may overpower the more analytic folks in the room. To get all the best ideas look for ways to balance the conversation invite people to submit ideas in writing after the session. Don't have group - Carrie Anton had some great tips on how to Brainstorm by Yourself.
This phase involves reviewing all the ideas you have generated and selecting a few to explore in greater detail. You are still not completely critical, and crazy suggestions will still play a roll in this phase. Remember in this phase there are still no bad ideas and no limitations such as budget, time, or people. There are however a few best ideas, and these are the ones you need to focus on expanding. As you embrace these ideas, unite related concepts, look for connections and ways to build on the ideas of others.
It is important to take a break between uniting and nurturing. It may be only a few minutes or a few days. This break marks the transition from wild ideas to critical review. The time between the stages is important for the more analytic and introverted members of the group. It gives them time to process information, formulate responses and questions so they are ready to share their ideas with the group or individual members. The nurture team may be expanded or changed as the real work begins, evaluating ideas with objective eye to improve and refine the concepts so they become actionable. Identify and eliminate obstacles as you nurture the best ideas, giving them the chance to blossom and grow. Many ideas don’t survive this phase, as impractical or unworkable ideas are rejected, so the best ideas can blossom.
To move from concepts to reality, you must commit to a course of action. Develop action plans, timelines, deadlines, and measures. Success depends on your passion, commitment, enthusiasm, and your ability to learn from your mistakes.
It is a round process, because, as soon as you think you are done, it is time to start again! | |||
| #1038 Build Your Online Brand | Jason Barnard | 01 Aug 2024 | 00:12:01 | |
I had a great conversation with Jason Barnard ( @jasonmbarnard ) about online branding. Importance of Brand SERPs: One of the standout points Jason emphasizes is the critical role of Brand Search Engine Results Pages (SERPs). He explains how they reflect a brand's online reputation and visibility, and why businesses should prioritize optimizing their Brand SERPs for better recognition and credibility. Knowledge Panels: Jason delves into the significance of Knowledge Panels, those information boxes that appear on the right side of Google's search results. He discusses how they can enhance a brand's authority and trustworthiness, offering tips on how to get your brand featured in these panels. AI and Future Trends: The conversation also touches on the impact of artificial intelligence in digital marketing. Jason shares his thoughts on future trends, suggesting that AI will continue to shape the industry in exciting and unexpected ways, influencing how brands interact with their audiences. Personal Branding: Lastly, Jason talks about the power of personal branding in the digital age. He offers practical advice on building and maintaining a strong personal brand, emphasizing its importance for professionals looking to stand out in a crowded marketplace.
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| #1037 Stand, Stagger, Fall! | Matt Nettleton | 30 Jul 2024 | 00:10:40 | |
In this conversation from my archive, chatted with Matt Nettleton about the importance of practice and the danger of over practicing. Have you ever done something for the first time, without prior knowledge and been able to achieve success? If so, you’re truly unique. Most humans find themselves meeting new challenges with a series of frustrations and failures. Imagine an infant as they decide to walk for the first time, they stand up then they stagger and inevitably they fall. To become consistent walkers they repeat the stand-stagger-fall cycle for a few weeks or months. This pattern of stand-stagger-fall is repeated throughout our lives. Over time we learn that practicing tasks makes eventual success more likely. We also learn that preparation is a bit of a grind certainly not enjoyable and nearly always hard work. But learning to effectively gain new skills and improve performance with existing skills is the key task we all face as adults. So, we learn to practice. If you’ve enjoyed this conversation sign up for a weekly newsletter get links to episodes you might have missed and other resources for your business https://morethanafewwords.com/avoid-fomo/
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| #1036 Activity vs Productivty | 28 Jul 2024 | 00:02:22 | |
When it comes to marketing, it's easy to focus on activity. Just create a list of tasks and check them off as you complete them:
As you check things off your list, you feel good about all you have accomplished. But when you focus exclusively on the activities of marketing, you're missing half the equation. It doesn't really matter how much marketing you do if you're not getting results. Whether you are doing your own marketing or you have hired a company to do these tasks for you, don't settle for a list of activities. You need to hold your marketing accountable for results. You need to focus on the productivity of your marketing, and that's harder to do. Productivity measures might include:
If you don't know the answers to these questions, stop wasting money on marketing. Put systems in place monitor web data and actual inquiries. Ask people how they heard about you or why the called. Study your closing rate. Once you have the numbers you will know have a better idea of what is working and where you need to be spending more time.
The bottom line: Anyone can look busy. As a business owner, you need to be sure that when you and your team spend time, it isn't just activity, but productive activity.
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| #1035 The Art of Asking for a Testimonial | 25 Jul 2024 | 00:10:34 | |
If you’re looking to harness the power of testimonials for your business, this conversation with Danielle Klemm, a positioning and funnel strategist, is packed with insights. She packed so much information into the short conversation: Here are just a few highlights. There is a structure to a great testimonial Testimonials should follow a story structure with a beginning, middle, and end. When asked to give a testimonial, customers usually describe their experiences from the end point, but that isn't where your next customer is in their process You need to guide the conversation starting from the problems they faced before using your product or service. Ask specific questions to prompt customers to talk about their initial challenges, the aha moments they experienced, and how your product or service solved their problems. This approach not only enhances the testimonial but also provides valuable marketing language directly from your customers. Do more with testimonials Beyond just posting on social media or your website, testimonials can be used creatively across various platforms. This includes integrating them into blog posts, case studies, media publications, and even at physical booths using QR codes. The goal is to make these testimonials part of your natural sales process, helping to build credibility and trust. Learn More https://www.danielleklemm.com
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| #1034 Marketing Automation Basics | 23 Jul 2024 | 00:11:52 | |
Seven years ago, I chatted with Luke Magsamen, who was a member of the Roundpeg team at the time, about marketing automation. While tools have changed, the strategies we discussed are as relevant today to help you keep a business running smoothly, even while you sleep. Here are some key points from our discussion:
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| #1141 Three - Five-Three Method to Engage Web Visitors | Wayne Mullins | 25 Mar 2025 | 00:09:17 | |
A few years ago I sat down with Wayne Mullins, founder of Ugly Mug Marketing, to dive into his unique “3-5-3” formula for turning your website from a static space into a real business driver. If you missed the original release of this episode, you want to be sure to catch it now. His approach is all about honing in on what users need, and it starts with capturing attention in the first three seconds. The truth is, visitors aren’t "browsing" anymore—they’re "hopping" from one page to the next, and you need a hook to keep them around. Next up are the five critical questions to ask on every page. Who’s visiting this page? What’s the exact action you want them to take? And maybe most importantly, why would they take that action, from their perspective? This exercise of stepping into the visitor’s shoes can completely transform how each page is designed to serve them. The final three elements, or “three C’s,” of effective design wrap it all together: composition, contrast, and content. Wayne’s big takeaway here? Lead with the content. Instead of designing for looks first, start with what you’re trying to communicate, then build the design around it. Simple and actionable tips like these make the 3-5-3 formula a powerful way to evaluate your site and start getting better results right away.
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| #1033 What's In a Name? | 21 Jul 2024 | 00:01:54 | |
Over the years, I have had the opportunity to work with start-ups, as they look for name for their new business or product. The process is rarely easy, but always interesting. The process should start with a look at the ultimate customer and the unique elements of the solution being presented. Even in traditional industries, looking for a unique twist will help set the business apart. So what else should you consider on your quest to find the perfect name?
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| #1032 Build Trust with Virtual Events | Michael Tucker | 18 Jul 2024 | 00:10:48 | |
One of the things that happened during Covid was that virtual events exploded. And today, even as we return to in person activities, there is still a place for virtual events in your marketing. That was the topic I dove into with Michael Tucker. Here are some key points from the interview with Michael Tucker about virtual events:
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| #1031 Be a Much Better Public Speaker | Brenden Kumarasamy | 16 Jul 2024 | 00:11:05 | |
In this conversation from our archive, I had a chance to talk with Brenden Kumarasamy from MasterTalk. Brenden shares practical tips to enhance communication and public speaking abilities. Here are four simple exercises you can add to your daily routine.
Brenden emphasizes that these simple exercises can significantly improve your public speaking skills and overall communication effectiveness. For more tips, check out MasterTalk on YouTube. If you’ve enjoyed this conversation sign up for a weekly newsletter get links to episodes you might have missed and other resources for your business https://morethanafewwords.com/avoid-fomo/ | |||
| #1030 Social Media is Like a Singles Bar | 14 Jul 2024 | 00:01:10 | |
Social media is a lot like going to a singles bar. You’re going to meet a lot of nice people and have some interesting conversations. But at the end of the day your goal is to bring your date home. In the world of digital marketing home is your website and your email list. This is where you can have that great one on one conversation without all the distractions like silly videos, cat pictures and baby images. This is where you can control the conversation. As your creating marketing and advertising for social media, remember, you want to bring your date home.
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| #1029 Display Advertising | Debra Bowers | 11 Jul 2024 | 00:11:40 | |
I enjoyed the time I spent with Deborah Bowers, a seasoned marketing expert, to discuss the essentials of digital advertising for small businesses. Here are a few key points from our conversation: Importance of Digital Advertising: Deborah emphasizes the necessity of incorporating paid advertising alongside organic marketing to reach a wider audience and drive more sales Starting with Digital Advertising: For those new to digital advertising, Deborah suggests focusing on directional advertising, targeting people who already know they want a product or service. Spending more of your budget on people who are closer to the point of purchase is an effective way to stretch limited marketing funds. Digital Search Ads: These ads appear to users based on their search behaviors across multiple platforms, allowing businesses to target potential customers without the need for a separate budget for each platform. Targeting and Budget Management: Deborah explains the importance of targeting specific demographics and setting limits on how often ads are shown to avoid overspending and annoying potential customers. She emphasizes the need to capture leads effectively through well-designed landing pages. If you’ve enjoyed this conversation sign up for a weekly newsletter get links to episodes you might have missed and other resources for your business : https://morethanafewwords.com/avoid-fomo/ | |||
| #1028 Avoid the Social Media Overwhelm | Andrea Jones | 09 Jul 2024 | 00:11:18 | |
Do you feel overwhelmed by social media if you do you're not alone but I've got some good news for you because there are things you can do to manage the chaos and make the time you're spending on social media productive. Our guest, Andrea Jones explains one of the challenges with social media is that it's a mixture of our business and our personal life. She suggests dividing platforms by purpose—some for personal use and others strictly for business. This helps manage focus and reduce distractions. She has some other great suggestions in this lively conversation Time Blocking: Instead of stressing over posting frequently, spend a set amount of time each day engaging with your community and creating content. Content Strategy: Balance your posts between connection and conversion. Andrea recommends the 80/20 rule—80% of content should aim to connect with the audience, and 20% should focus on conversion. Reflect Business Activity: Use real business interactions and questions as the foundation of your content, keeping your updates relevant and engaging Define Social Media Goals: Understand what you want to achieve with social media, whether it’s building authority or driving sales. This clarity can help turn social media from a chore into a valuable tool. For more insights, check out Andrea's podcast, the Savvy Social Podcast, and her website, http://onlinedrea.com. If you’ve enjoyed this conversation sign up for a weekly newsletter get links to episodes you might have missed and other resources for your business https://morethanafewwords.com/avoid-fomo/
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| #1027 Free Kittens | 07 Jul 2024 | 00:03:03 | |
The internet is fueled by cats. Cute cats, funny cats, grumpy cats, cat photos and cat videos. It's cats, cats, cats, all day long. I'm actually okay with that because I like cats. We even had two cats, Clyde and Truman who lived Roundpeg and if you followed us on social media you would see them regularly featured. Clyde even had her own Facebook page and probably has more fans than I did. And it is this love of cats that kind of inspired us to do a fun promotion for our marketing seminars. We designed an ad with a headline that said: Free Kittens with every seminar. If you read the fine print, we weren't giving away kittens but you did get a chance to play with our cats It was a little bit out there, so we wondered how our audience would react, so we created a more traditional version as an alternative. We both graphics on Facebook and on LinkedIn, thinking we we knew exactly how this was going to play out. We expected the kittens to do well on Facebook and the more traditional version to score points on LinkedIn. We were wrong!. The cats got barely got a ripple on Facebook, with few people noticing and interacting. It certainly didn't t get the viral shares I expected. Instead the traditional graphic, when reshared to my personal page with a bit of text telling friends and family where I was going to be in the next month got lots of engagement. LinkedIn just the opposite. The traditional schedule got a few thumbs up but the cats went viral. The image was shared and reshared. People kept commenting and talking about it, long after the seminars were over. The lesson we learned: Don't be afraid to shake things up. Be a little silly and to go outside your box or simply look for ways to do exactly the opposite of what everybody else is doing. If you can do that, you are more likely to get noticed.
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| #1026 Take a Closer Look at Your Website | Monica Pitts | 04 Jul 2024 | 00:11:16 | |
Monica Pitts, founder of MayeCreate Design and host of the "Marketing with Purpose" podcast brought her energy and humor to this conversation about your website. Like me, she considers it a critical part of your overall marketing.
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| #1025 Simple SEO Tips | Meg Casebolt | 02 Jul 2024 | 00:11:11 | |
I know you think we’ve talked SEO to death, but the field keeps changing and there are different approaches. My guest Meg Casebolt explains many people think think SEO is incredibly complex and you need to have an expensive team come in to fix your website for it. They also assume you must produce boatloads of content to be successful. She doesn’t think either of those things is true. Today, the trick is not quantity, but content which clearly defines who you serve and how you help that audience. Here are a few simple tips that can easily improve your SEO Optimizing Existing Content: Utilize tools like Google Search Console to identify what content is already performing well. Update and repurpose existing content, and create cornerstone pages that compile related resources, which can rank better in search results. Link Building and Authority: Effective use of internal and external links can enhance SEO. Linking to and from reputable sites builds credibility and signals to search engines that your content is trustworthy and authoritative. Creating Leads through SEO: Every piece of content should direct users towards further engagement, whether that’s filling out a contact form or accessing a lead magnet. This strategy turns SEO into a tool for generating and nurturing leads, not just driving traffic. Content Strategy Alignment: Align content creation with your lead magnets and overall marketing goals. By reverse-engineering from lead magnets, you can create content that naturally leads users through the customer journey, ultimately converting them into leads. If you’ve enjoyed this conversation sign up for a weekly newsletter get links to episodes you might have missed and other resources for your business https://morethanafewwords.com/avoid-fomo/
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| #1024 Prince Charming - And the Search for the Perfect Marketing Solution | 30 Jun 2024 | 00:01:32 | |
I'm sure you're familiar with the story of Prince Charming. He went trudging through his kingdom carrying a shoe looking for the prefect girl. He tried it on multiple people until he finally found his one true love. Well, that's a fairy tale but it has real applications for your marketing. In a way you have to be like prince charming. You have to go trudging through different types of marketing until you find something that fits. You're going to consider and reject a lot of things before you find that perfect marketing for your business. But here's the catch. Unlike prince charming you don't always get to live happily ever after. That dream solution is great this year but it may not be perfect next year and so you've got to be willing to go trudging through marketing solutions over and over again to continually find the best fit for your business. If you’ve enjoyed this conversation sign up for a weekly newsletter get links to episodes you might have missed and other resources for your business https://morethanafewwords.com/avoid-fomo/
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| #1140 - Why Marketing Messages Miss the Mark | Brad Koch | 23 Mar 2025 | 00:11:22 | |
Sometimes, as business owners and marketers, we get so wrapped up in what excites us about our products or services that we lose sight of what matters to our audience. That’s exactly what Brad Koch, a coach and business strategist, discovered the hard way. Brad talks about what went wrong as he shared a story of a marketing campaign that fell flat—and the lessons he learned about crafting messaging his customers really cared about. Key Takeaways:
Actionable Insights: Before launching your next marketing campaign, ask yourself:
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| #1023 Be a Podcast Guest | Jamie Atkinson | 27 Jun 2024 | 00:11:29 | |
Your audience is out there. The people that are just dying to work with you. The problem is they don't know you exist. Being a guest on a podcast can help those ideal clients get to know you. My guest, Jamie Atkinson, shared some great tips on how you can be invited to be a guest on more podcasts.
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| #1022 Build Trust with Email | 25 Jun 2024 | 00:11:48 | |
If you missed my conversation with Jeff Felton about using email to build trust with prospects, take a few minutes to listen now. Most people think about email marketing as a sales tool. But my guest, Jeff Felten thinks it is so much more. Email can play a valuable role as a way to build trust and relationships with your audience.
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| #1021 Let AI Summarize | 23 Jun 2024 | 00:02:01 | |
A few weeks ago, I dropped a quick marketing tip about creating less content. That advice might seem counter intuitive when you are engaged in the battles of the content wars. But the trick is finding ways to expand your content. I shared some suggestions on how repurpose your content instead of reinventing the wheel. Now, I have one more suggestion. Let AI do the work for you. Don't get me wrong, I am not advocating you actually publish that very stuffy, or all too bro style content. Instead, let AI do what it does best. Summarize transcripts of interviews and meetings. Create bullet lists, social shares or blog posts from your original content. Yes, you will still need to rewrite, but at least you have a starting point. And my new favorite too is Opus Pro, which will transform a longer video, into a series of short, binge-worthy clips. If you’ve enjoyed this conversation sign up for a weekly newsletter get links to episodes you might have missed and other resources for your business https://morethanafewwords.com/avoid-fomo/
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| #1020 Stop Wasting Money on Marketing | Sara Nay | Duct Tape Marketing | 20 Jun 2024 | 00:11:29 | |
Business owners often tell me they know some of their marketing is working they just don't know which part. So as a result, they waste a lot of money on the wrong types of marketing. So I invited Sara Nay, of Duct Tape Marketing to join me for a conversation about how business owners can stop wasting money. She had some great tips.
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| #1019 The Marketing Flywheel | Josh Ramsey | 18 Jun 2024 | 00:12:49 | |
A flywheel, builds energy, as you push it slowly over time it gets faster and faster and faster. A marketing flywheel will do that as well. With consistent action, the marketing flywheel will deliver more and more results. In this conversation from our archive, Josh Ramsey explains the Marketing Flywheel revolves around three pillars.
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| #1018 Half Baked Marketing Ideas | Marketing Minute | 16 Jun 2024 | 00:03:52 | |
I love working with entrepreneurs. They’re excited and enthusiastic and their energy is contagious as they talk about their great idea. Unfortunately, I often have to tell these amazing people I can’t help them because excitement and energy is not enough to make a business successful. Usually it’s because their idea is only half-baked. There’s a good concept but they haven’t really done the homework to fill in the details. The gaps usually occur in one of several categories
In this episode, I share a few examples of how half-baked ideas could have been completed with a little work and a little patience but entrepreneurs are impatient. Don’t let this happen to you. If you have an idea for a business do your homework learn about the industry, your competitors and your customers. Give your idea a chance to succeed by putting it back in the oven for a little while. When you’re ready to talk about your half baked marketing idea give me a call | |||
| #1017 - Working on your business 24/7 is not the way to succeed | Joey Drolshagen | 13 Jun 2024 | 00:11:37 | |
If you are like many small business owners, you're probably laying awake at night worrying about your business, working all day long and in your spare time, thinking about your business Well, according to Joey Drolshagen that's not the way to get ahead. He suggests: Mindset Shift: From the traditional notion of hard work to a more strategic approach, Joey challenges the idea that exhaustive effort is the only path to success,. Awareness and Alignment: Many business owners dive into tasks without considering alignment with their goals, leading to burnout and inefficiency. Dynamic Vision: Your vision should inspire and motivate you, helping you make prioritize tasks and make better decisions. If you’ve enjoyed this conversation sign up for a weekly newsletter get links to episodes you might’ve missed and other resources for your business : https://morethanafewwords.com/avoid-fomo/ Open-mindedness and Learning: Even if you have been doing this for awhile, Joey stresses the importance of having an open mind and a beginner's mindset. Systems and Delegation: When you have systems in place and get comfortable with delegating it is easier to focus on working on the business rather than just in it LEARN MORE ABOUT JOEY - https://coachwithjoey.com
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| #1016 Tell Stories About Your Best Day | David Hutchens | 11 Jun 2024 | 00:10:10 | |
I love to tell stories. Not only because they’re fun, but because they’re great for business. That’s why I was excited to sit down with master storyteller, David Hutchins a few years ago. If you missed the conversation back then, here's you chance to learn more about storytelling.
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| #1015 I Still Love Email | Lorraine Ball | 09 Jun 2024 | 00:01:35 | |
I love email . It is not that I love getting email in my inbox. But I love email as a marketing tool. There are a lot of people who say things like "email doesn't work" or "it's passe" They argue there are all sorts of other tools. you can use that are so much more effective. Well, I agree, other tools do exist, but there are some things email does better than any other tool. When I have permission to send you an email we have an interaction that is one on one in your inbox. There are no distractions. Even if it's only a few seconds I'm the only thing you're paying attention to. People open emails every single day. They may ignore social media, taking a break from Tik Tok but too much of their life is still wrapped up in their email . So if you've got a marketing message. You need to be thinking about delivering it in an email. If you’ve enjoyed this conversation sign up for a weekly newsletter get links to episodes you might’ve missed and other resources for your business : https://morethanafewwords.com/avoid-fomo/ | |||
| #1014 Backlinks - What Are They and Do You Need Them? | Brandon Leibowitz | 06 Jun 2024 | 00:10:32 | |
In life you are often judged by the company that you keep. The same is true online, your reputation is influenced by who you run with and the clubs to which you belong. You demonstrate those connections through backlinks. What are backlinks? How do you get them? Why do you need them? Those are just some of the questions I asked Brandon Leibowitz
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| #1139 Respond to Feedback with Empathy and Action | David Oates | 18 Mar 2025 | 00:10:47 | |
Let’s face it: whether it’s a middle school rumor or a scathing online review, negative feedback stings. As business owners, those harsh words often hit close to home because they’re not just about our work—they’re about us. In this episode of More Than a Few Words, I chatted with David Oates, a seasoned crisis communications expert, about how to handle negative reviews and comments with grace. David shared practical advice on how to respond with "empathy and action"—a simple yet powerful approach to defuse tension, protect your brand, and show others that you care about making things right. Key Takeaways:
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| #1013 Build an Amazing Life | Nicole Bandes | 04 Jun 2024 | 00:10:10 | |
From my archive: When you started your business you probably assumed that sooner or later you would get around to building a life to go with it. According to guest Nicole Bandes, that is not necessarily the best way to approach things. She believes you can actually build a successful business around your amazing life. Here are a few of the key points from our conversation
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| #1012 Natural Language | 02 Jun 2024 | 00:01:26 | |
One of the most common mistakes business owners make is thinking that there’s some single magic key word or phrase that they must dominate. But that just isn’t how search works anymore. Why? Because today, people are more likely to use natural language as they type or dictate to Siri. So instead of typing a short phrase like furnace repair, they’re more likely to ask “Who can I call to replace my furnace?” or “Why is my furnace making a funny sound?”
Today if a prospective customer goes to Google to look for a business like yours, they are using phrases and questions. And your website must contain those words. They tell Google and other search engines exactly what your website or page is about. That information is then stored in the search engine database so it can be presented to prospective customers when they’re looking for a product or service.
As you think about your keywords, think about natural language and how people are more likely to talk when they’re looking for a business like yours.
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| #1011 Marketing is Like Dating - It Takes Time to Build a Relationship | 30 May 2024 | 00:10:58 | |
Client relationships are just that, they are relationships. While you hope that every new clients is in it for the long haul, we've all had those clients that we wanted to break up with. So as you are looking for your next client relationship, maybe you need to think about it like a date. Jennifer Tamborski, a seasoned digital marketing strategist, shared some of the parallels between dating and client acquisition. Just like dating there are stages in the process: Introduction, flirting, dating, commitment, and keeping the romance alive.
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