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In this special international episode, UFC veteran Xavier Foupa-Pokam — known as Professor X — takes listeners on his unforgettable road to the UFC. A true pioneer of French MMA and one of the earliest members of the Snake Team under trainer Cyril Diabate, Foupa-Pokam details his transition from traditional karate to Muay Thai and mixed martial arts in the early 2000s, when the sport was illegal in France. Fighters trained in secret, competed under the guise of other disciplines, and often faced law enforcement interference at events.
With a professional career spanning more than 50 bouts and a verified record of 32-22-0, Professor X became one of the most traveled fighters of his era, competing primarily as the B-side in promotions across Europe, Asia, Africa, South America, and beyond. He shares stories from legendary events including Cage Rage in the UK, Jungle Fight in Brazil, and international tournaments, as well as his preparation with Dan Henderson’s Team Quest in the United States to mimic Anderson Silva. The conversation covers his UFC appearances at UFC 97 against Denis Kang and UFC 98 against Drew McFedries, plus memorable matchups against Paul Daley, Hayato Sakurai, Paulo Coelho, and more. Foupa-Pokam also discusses the challenges of building French MMA from the ground up, the outlaw atmosphere of the early days, his 11 amateur fights before turning pro, and insights into fellow Cameroonian-French fighter Francis Ngannou. This episode highlights the passion, resilience, and global experiences that defined one of MMA’s most dedicated journeymen.
The MMA History Podcast documents the sport we love through hundreds of interviews and thousands of hours of research conducted by the most obsessed minds in the business. Subscribe for new episodes every week featuring the men who lived the early days of MMA.
0:00 MMA history podcast intro 0:32 Joey Venti’s guest introduction 0:54 interview start 1:14 part of the foundation for French combat sports 5:51 Karate fighters transitioning to MMA 8:56 Golden Trophy events 10:06 Francis Ngannou vs Zoumana Cisse 15:33 training before first fight 17:18 illegal amateur bouts in France 19:09 issues with Law enforcement 20:58 coming into fights as a B side 25:31 Xavier Foupa vs Nelson Monteiro 27:00 Xavier Foupa vs David Pierre 29:49 Xavier Foupa vs Paul Williamson 31:02 Xavier Foupa vs Matt Ewin 32:29 research on opponents before fight 34:10 Xavier Foupa vs Ferene Gancs 36:09 Xavier Foupa vs Poulo Coelho 37:47 French fighters vs BJJ black belts 41:52 Cage Rage parties behind the scenes 46:42 Xavier Foupa vs Martin Kampmann 48:53 Xavier Foupa vs John Oskar 52:33 Xavier Foupa vs Paul Daily 54:25 coming off 3 losses 55:13 Xavier Foupa vs Jose Mata 59:40 Michael Bisping vs Cyrille Diabate 1:02:08 Xavier Foupa vs Itamar Rosa 1:03:15 Xavier Foupa vs Ken Hamamura 1:04:04 Xavier Foupa vs Hoon Kim 1:06:42 Xavier Foupa vs Sol Gilbert 1:10:24 Xavier Foupa vs Ryuta Sakuri 1:13:08 Xavier Foupa vs Alex Reid 1:15:38 interactions with Lee Murray 1:16:57 Xavier Foupa vs Tom Watson 1:17:28 Xavier Foupa vs Pierre Guillet 1:18:00 Xavier Foupa vs Murilo Rua 1:18:54 Cyrille Diabate vs Murilo Rua 1:19:44 Far Eastern Modern Pancration Federation 1:26:19 dealings with Wallid Ismail 1:27:03 training with Dan Henderson at Team Quest 1:30:12 getting a phone call from the UFC 1:31:51 interview wrap up 1:35:28 outro/ closing thoughts
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In episode 320 of the MMA History Podcast, host Mike Davis and Joey Venti sit down with UFC veteran and The Ultimate Fighter season 3 finalist Josh Haynes for an in-depth interview about his road to the Ultimate Fighter. As a former mixed martial arts fighter with a professional record of 14 wins and 11 losses, Haynes shares his gritty journey from starting MMA in 2002 as a 330-pound amateur in Oregon's Full Contact Fighting Federation to competing at the highest levels in the UFC.
Post-retirement, Haynes transitioned to law enforcement with the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department in 2009, where he now serves as a sergeant. He details his heroic actions during the 2017 Las Vegas shooting, saving a wounded rookie officer under fire and earning the Medal of Valor for exceptional bravery. This episode explores themes of resilience, survival mentality, and life after MMA, offering valuable insights for aspiring fighters on planning beyond the octagon.
0:00 MMA history podcast intro 0:32 Joey Venti’s guest introduction 0:52 interview start 0:54 truth about fight career 4:02 beginnings in MMA 5:43 deciding to become a fighter 10:57 15:03 thoughts on Robert Follis 19:14 Phil Baroni Sparring incident with Evan Tanner 22:40 opportunities after fighting 26:00 Josh Haynes vs Larry Vandervort 30:24 reflecting after first loss 31:49 Josh Haynes vs Josh Bennett 34:15 taking fights consistently 35:20 Gina Carano 35:52 Josh Haynes vs Carl Pope 39:30 coach Shawn Tompkins 41:16 Josh Haynes vs Jordan Ramos 43:27 training with the “White Buffalo Warriors” 44:12 Matt Hume 44:46 Josh Haynes vs Jim Pope 48:57 riding a 7 fight win streak 51:35 fighters from the Pacific Northwest 53:04 Josh Haynes vs Jerry Vrbanovic 57:19 Josh Haynes vs Vince Lucero 59:20 interactions with John Alessio 1:01:56 Ulysses Gomez Jiu jitsu 1:05:08 fighters transitioning to Law enforcement 1:08:00 realizing Team Quest was ending 1:12:04 Scrubbing information off the internet 1:13:44 heroic during Las Vegas mass Shooting 1:26:46 Josh Haynes vs Jake Villanueva 1:28:19 Josh Haynes vs Carlos Garcia 1:29:51 Josh Haynes vs Marcos Oliveira 1:31:04 Josh Haynes vs Horace Spencer 1:32:29 taking fights with injuries 1:34:05 Josh Haynes vs Cedric Marks 1:36:32 trying out for TUF 1:39:09 Matt Horwich not making the TUF cast 1:42:47 Team Quest teammates in TUF final 1:44:01 Josh Haynes vs Tate Fletcher 1:45:22 Josh Haynes vs Jesse Forbes 1:46:23 Josh Haynes vs Michael Bisping 1:50:56 talks with Joe Silva 1:55:32 evolution of MMA turning to point fighting 1:59:17 interview wrap up 2:03:53 outro/ closing thoughts
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Andy Anderson was once a Texas entrepreneur owning topless clubs and the notorious All Nude Steakhouse (supplying ring girls for UFC events), Andy's life took a turn - he's now serving a federal sentence for drug conspiracy (30 years) and money laundering (20 years), though he insists he's innocent and was railroaded by false testimony. This audio-only deep dive covers fixed fights, mafia run-ins in Ukraine's IFC event, Japanese afterparties gone wrong, and the grit that built MMA. No holds barred - just raw history from a man who lived it.
0:00 MMA history podcast intro
0:32 Joey Venti’s guest introduction
2:35 interview start
2:52 helping move UFC 12 after cancellation
6:49 attending UFC 1 as a spectator
7:42 becoming involved with the UFC
8:26 fighting NHB in Mexico
9:21 interactions with Julian Sanchez
10:06 relationship with Art Davie
11:27 Art Davie and Bob Meyrowitz relationship
13:14 meeting Buddy Albin
14:27 relationship with Charlie Anzalone
15:04 Buddy Albin being tough to work with
17:25 Andy Anderson vs John Hess
21:00 owning several topless bars
22:09 Cornering Anthony Macias for fixed fight
25:16 Pat smith attacked in Elevator by Tito Ortiz
27:06 Remco Pardoel alleged Marco Ruas of greasing
28:41 Marco Ruas calling out the Gracie’s
29:44 Bas Rutten calling out Rickson Gracie
30:20 Japanese promotions hand picking fights
32:22 Tank Abbott Hard Rock Cafe incident
35:40 interactions with Joe Son and Kimo Leopoldo
38:12 Ken Shamrock dropping women off a balcony
40:04 Art Davie split with Bob Meyrowitz
42:51 living with Frank Shamrock
44:23 living with Scott Bessac
46:01 reason for being locked up
49:36 initial offering for sentencing
51:53 locked up with Tiger King
53:30 amount of time being served
56:45 current living situation
1:00:51 IFC Ukraine Debut controversy
1:08:50 Ron Van Clief
1:10:10 interactions with Leon Spinks
1:11:09 reason for the UFC logo at IFC event
1:12:21 Stuck in Ukraine after IFC event
1:15:48 Bas Rutten Paul Varelans incident
1:19:23 escaping to Paris from Ukraine
1:21:05 the local mafia wanting the tapes
1:22:06 Buddy Albin grab and go plan
1:22:52 Igor Vovchanchyn reputation at IFC event
1:23:52 Art Davie not involved in the IFC
1:25:40 Anthony Macias vs Sakuraba
1:28:30 John McCarthys relationship with Bob Meyrowitz
1:29:30 John Perretti coming to the UFC
1:31:19 Bob Meyrowitz thoughts on John Perretti
1:36:25 early UFC matchmaking
1:37:16 UFC not allowing John Perretti to purchase
1:41:06 Bob Meyrowitz interactions with Oprah Winfrey
1:41:53 fondest memories of the UFC
1:42:38 UFC changing rules because of mark Coleman
1:44:28 Andy Anderson outro
1:45:56 outro/ closing thoughts
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Josh Barnett became the youngest UFC Heavyweight Champion by defeating the legendary Randy Coutore. Josh takes us though his journey from meeting people online for “mutually agreed upon combat” to entering into the world of Japanese pro wrestling.
Buckle in, this is a fun listen
0:00 Lytes out intro 0:19 Joey Venti’s guest introduction 0:51 interview start 1:46 Sensei Jim Harrison 5:30 training with Matt Hume 7:39 Josh Barnett vs Chris Charnos 8:20 meeting Matt Hume 9:08 having to stand up to bullying at an early age 14:57 Dennis Hallman story 17:25 charging Jeff Monson for being late 19:30 Josh Barnett vs Jeff Monson 22:58 Dennis Hallman fights in Speedo 23:30 Seminar at Crimson Guard 24:45 Rigan Machado influence 26:06 mutually agreed upon combat 30:30 Josh Barnett vs Bob Gilstrap 32:54 Todd Bjornethun 34:23 Matt Hume rolling sessions 36:39 The evolution of Matt Hume as a fighter 43:00 Matt Hume vs Pat Miletich 46:16 getting the invite for ADCC 47:07 Josh Barnett vs Mark Kerr 48:30 Josh Barnett vs Dan Severn 49:39 entering ADCC 2000 unprepared 51:49 Josh Barnett vs Gan McGee 53:20 MMA underground forums 54:13 Josh Barnett vs Pedro Rizzo 57:06 Josh Barnett vs Semmy Schilt 1:02:31 experience with Billy Robinson 1:04:59 cornering Mark Coleman in pride FC 1:08:07 matchmaking spontaneous fights 1:10:14 Josh Barnett vs Bobby Hoffman 1:13:47 Bobby Hoffman story 1:14:14 failed drug test rumor 1:17:51 Josh Barnett vs Randy Coutore 1:23:51 failing post fight drug test 1:28:11 Joining New Japan pro wrestling 1:28:34 Bob Sapp’s popularity in Japan 1:30:46 Bob Sapp vs Antonio Nogueira 1:32:54 calling out Antonio Nogueira 1:34:45 Josh Barnett’s opinion on the older generation of fighters 1:38:27 New Japan Debut 1:39:33 Ken Shamrock interference during match 1:41:45 Pride FC contract refusal rumor 1:43:40 Josh Barnett vs Rene Rooze 1:46:58 Suren Balachinskiy fight rumor 1:48:19 Pedro Rizzo rematch offer 1:49:16 career inactivity 1:50:19 training with Erik Paulson and Lou Smith 1:51:29 training with the RAW team 1:52:44 Impact FC stiffed on payment 1:54:14 training with Dan Inosanto 1:55:32 Erik Paulson not receiving black belt from the Gracie’s 1:57:15 interview wrap up 2:03:07 outro/ final thoughts
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Carlos Newton is a pioneer of the early days in f Mixed Martial Arts as well as Canadas first World Champion.
Carlos Newton made his debut on John Perretti’s Extreme Fighting; in this interview John Perretti joins us in order to add depth to the accomplishments
Carlos Newton was a main fighter in the UFC anti trust lawsuit.
We would NOT have gotten this interview had John Perretti not called Carlos personally on Kurt behalf.
Ep 220 Carlos Newton Career Deep Dive
0:00 Lytes out intro 0:19 Joey Venti’s guest introduction 0:44 interview start 0:55 joining the MMAFA 2:29 messages between mangers and UFC matchmakers 5:04 purpose of having a Union 10:40 trainer Modi Isaaks 12:42 leaving Samuri club 13:58 unfair contract with Modi Isaaks 15:04 John Perretti’s experience with Modi Isaaks 16:53 realizing the shelf life of fighters 18:19 choosing not to train at a super gym 19:32 getting stabbed outside of nightclub 30:17 military escorted off of a plane 32:29 training the israeli secret service 34:53 John Perretti discovering Carlos Newton 37:11 Carlos Newton vs Jean Rivière 40:30 chaos backstage at Extreme fighting battlecade 2 44:26 Carlos Newton at the Contenders 47:44 reason for non title fight against Erik Paulson 49:54 Carlos Newton vs Erik Paulson 54:09 feelings after Erik Paulson fight 55:13 learning to speak Japanese 57:00 getting invited to compete in ADCC 59:53 Carlos Newton vs Dan Henderson 1:05:58 Carlos Newton vs Kazuhiro Sakuraba 1:09:30 deciding to pursue a different career after fighting 1:12:17 choosing to sue the UFC 1:14:19 Carlos Newton vs Kenji Kawaguchi 1:15:36 dealings with promoter Jamie Levine 1:17:47 Dragon ball Z Jiu jitsu 1:19:18 Carlos Newton vs Johil de Oliveira 1:24:09 Carlos Newton vs Pat Miletich 1:25:35 Carlos Newton vs Matt Hughes 1:29:17 Carlos Newton vs Jose Pele Landi 1:31:44 Lee Murray vs Tito Ortiz street fight 1:33:36 Shawn Tompkins 1:35:01 Everton McEwan 1:36:57 interview wrap up 1:38:58 outro/final thoughts
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Outro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power
#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #MikeDavis #MMAHistory #OldSchoolMMA #FiftyFightClub #MMAPodcast #FightPodcast Newton is a pioneer of the early days in f Mixed Martial Arts as well as Canadas first World Champion.
Carlos Newton made his debut on John Perretti’s Extreme Fighting; in this interview John Perretti joins us in order to add depth to the accomplishments
Mario Sperry can be described by the word “legend”; a fierce competitor in both Jiu Jitsu and MMA Mario Sperry takes us through the no holds barred era of the sport as well as his path to the ADCC Hall of Fame. Mario Sperry gives us incredible insight into his years with Carlson Gracie as well as a behind the scene look at Pride Fc.
Mario Sperry ADCC & MMA Deep Dive Ep 219
0:00 Lytes out intro 0:19 Joey Venti’s guest introduction 0:50 interview start 0:56 relationship between Mehdi and the Gracie’s 3:27 Jason Delucia Blue belt rumor 3:51 claiming the wrong version of BJJ was being taught in the United States 6:46 Luta Livre and Jiu jitsu rivalry 7:37 Chute Boxe rivalry 9:42 Vale Tudo 2 street instructional 12:18 Rickson Gracie and Marco Ruas rivalry 15:15 Super fight rumor against Rickson Gracie 16:58 getting a call to fight Royce Gracie 20:25 Mario Sperry vs Jose Balduino 23:35 getting in touch with John Perretti 24:20 Battlecade Extreme Fighting 1 25:23 wiping blood on mat causing tapout loss confusion 26:21 Royce Gracie’s UFC opponents 30:14 Pentagon Combat Riot breakout 32:01 Current Sport Jiu jitsu 35:12 Oleg Taktarov vs Renzo Gracie 36:02 Australias first MMA event false advertised as UFC Australia 37:28 Chris Haseman digging chin rumor 38:45 getting the call to compete at ADCC 1998 40:35 Jorge Patino story 42:50 street style Jiu Jitsu 44:41 Mario Sperry vs Enson Inoue 45:28 Departure from Carlson Gracie 48:55 Todd Medina receiving black belt 49:45 taking time off from MMA 53:18 opinion on Rickson Gracie as a competitor 55:57 Mario Sperry vs Igor Vovchancyn 1:01:21 knowing Pride FC was going out of Business 1:03:25 Mario Sperry vs Maurilo Rua 1:06:20 visiting Japan 52 times 1:07:34 ADCC Gracie homecoming 1:09:36 volunteering to fight Gordon Ryan 1:10:37 Pride FC asking to work fights 1:11:57 Mario Sperry vs TK Kosaka 1:14:34 leaving the Blackzillians 1:17:58 time spent traveling to Japan 1:21:37 Minotouro Nogueira split from Brazilian Top Team 1:22:19 training Anderson Silva 1:23:12 thoughts on Walter Mattos 1:24:24 becoming an Airplane pilot 1:25:12 Carlos Barreto 1:25:22 Alan Goes never competing against Rickson Gracie 1:28:11 interview wrap up 1:28:49 outro/ final thoughts
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Outro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power
James Werme was a UFC employee from the Ultimate Ultimate 1995 to UFC 35. James Werme was originally hired by SEG’s David Isaaks as an assistant; behind the scenes Werme quickly developed into bigger rolls eventually becoming an on air personality.
James takes us through the Wild West of the No Holds bar era and its transition into becoming “Mixed Martial Arts”.
James Werme UFC Dark Era
0:00 Lytes out intro 0:19 guest introduction 0:30 interview start 0:35 background working for SEG 1:59 chaos that goes on behind the scenes 2:44 family reaction after joining the UFC 4:44 working with David Isaacs 6:29 attending first UFC event 7:37 UFC 8 being cancelled 11:03 Buddy Albin IFC controversy 14:46 UFC 9 issues 16:09 Art Davie and Bob Meyrowitz relationship 21:32 UFC 10 23:49 Bruce Buffer UFC announcing debut 24:57 finding an opponent for Mark Coleman 25:56 wanting Igor Vovchanchyn in the UFC 27:37 talks of replacing Art Davie 28:58 extreme fighting battlecade 2 fighter arrest issues 30:32 manager Robert DePersia pressuring Mark Hall 33:07 experience with Richard Hamilton 34:41 Charlie Anzalone rumors 35:26 John Perretti getting the blame for New York not wanting MMA 37:28 moving UFC 12 to Dothan Alabama on 24 hour notice 40:07 moving the cage on an airplane 46:38 dealings with Dana White 47:35 Mark Coleman vs Maurice Smith 54:07 Bruce Beck UFC departure 55:08 Art Davie fired after UFC 15 57:43 fighters leaving to fight in Japan 58:30 working with the Yakuza for UFC 15.5 1:01:25 Conan Silveira vs Kazushi Sakuraba 1:04:21 reactions to John Perretti hiring 1:06:00 Coining the phrase “mixed martial arts” 1:08:22 Pat Miletich losing outside of the UFC 1:09:38 Tito Ortiz vs Guy Mezger 1:11:11 Frank Shamrock retiring to get out of his contract 1:13:14 UFC champions retiring while still having the belt 1:17:00 UFC Japan 1:20:29 Kevin Randleman vs Pedro Rizzo 1:23:19 Dana White at UFC 27 1:24:25 negotiations of selling the UFC 1:29:14 Dan Lambert helping fund the UFC 1:30:30 John Perretti fired after UFC 29 1:35:56 issues at the weigh ins at UFC Japan 1:37:12 Dana White introduced to fans at UFC 30 1:40:39 UFC 33 being the worst event 1:46:58 staff getting food poisoning at UFC 35 1:48:16 UFC working behind the scenes with WWE 1:51:40 interview wrap up/ outro
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Outro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power
John Lewis is a mixed martial arts pioneer that made a name for himself during what some call the “UFC Dark Era”. We are also joined by legendary match maker John Perretti & we dive into John Lewis career and the steps that each of these men took in order to pave the way for the lighter weight classes
John Lewis does NOT do interviews and the only way that we were able to get this was due to John Perretti calling on a favor.
0:00 Lytes out intro 0:19 Joey Venti’s guest introduction 0:58 interview start 1:55 current life 3:19 getting discovered by John Perretti 5:11 becoming a fully developed fighter 7:16 backyard dojo 11:01 blackbelt under Gene LeBell 14:16 transitioning to Jiu jitsu with Andre Pederneiras 17:51 Erik Paulson 19:32 Gracie’s not wanting to help ambitious fighters 20:42 going to school with Kimo Leopoldo 21:46 Kimo Leopoldo learning Jiu jitsu from Randy Zigler 22:40 dealings with Bj Penn 23:26 John Perretti not impressed with Jiu Jitsu 26:22 John Lewis vs Thomas Puckett 30:24 John Perretti not being concerned for John Lewis 1st fight 32:15 John Lewis vs Carlson Gracie jr 34:12 not being worried about fighting a Gracie 36:15 giving John Lewis a title shot 38:10 backlash for defeating Carlson Gracie jr 41:27 training with Baret Yoshida 42:26 John Perretti’s fallout with the Gracie’s 45:09 Extreme fighting 2 46:40 Rickson Gracie claiming to invent fighting gloves 47:23 the world changing after gloves were involved 48:29 fighters having fake records 50:20 John Perretti Seminar story 52:34 fighters getting arrested after Extreme fighting 2 55:55 training Chuck Liddell and Tito Ortiz 58:00 getting introduced to Chuck Liddell 1:00:28 Kajas cage combat 1:01:12 John Lewis vs Rumina Sato 1:05:32 pancrase fighter records 1:06:19 Pele Landi vs Pat Miletich 1:07:25 John Lewis fighting with the flu 1:10:15 John Lewis vs Kenny Monday 1:15:28 pay for Carlson Gracie Jr fight 1:16:49 fighters getting Draws on their records 1:19:12 BJ Penn Phone call 1:19:27 ADCC 1998 1:21:33 John Lewis vs Lowell Anderson 1:23:44 John Lewis Career highlights 1:24:35 dealings with Marc Laimon 1:27:38 Mark Kerr and Bas Rutten 1:29:24 Joe Moreira 1:30:07 Cornering Gilbert Yvel in the UFC 1:33:08 John Lewis interview wrap up 1:33:56 thoughts on John Lewis interview 1:39:25 John Perretti refusing to use the words “ take down” 1:39:53 Gene LeBell 1:42:31 the UFC dark ages 1:44:09 Thoughts on Tito Ortiz 1:45:16 Jason DeLucia 1:46:20 Gene LeBell chokes out Steven Seagal 1:52:00 outro/ closing thoughts
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Landon Showalter is an unsung hero from the Pacific Northwest.
At the time of his fight career one could argue that the world’s toughest area of fighters all lives within 90 minutes of each other… Landon Showalter fought ALL of them.
This interview is what our podcast is built on, great stories from fighters that literally lived by the saying “anyone…anywhere”.
This is a really fun listen
Landon Showalter Career Deep Dive Ep 216
0:00 Lytes out intro 0:19 guest introduction 0:47 interview start 1:16 beginnings in MMA 5:05 Matt Hume as a coach 7:52 the Pacific Northwest MMA scene 11:29 Landon Showalter vs Matt Peterson 12:52 Landon Showalter vs Drew Goodson 14:37 Landon Showalter vs Craig Sloan 18:17 Landon Showalter vs Craig Sloan trilogy 20:38 plugs/ promotions 21:26 Gerald Strebendt 21:42 promoter JT Taylor 23:19 Matt Hume 24:40 Landon Showalter vs Robbie Lawlor 33:57 mental health/ Concussions 35:48 promoter Erik Wiseman 38:15 Landon Showalter vs Eric Dahl berg 39:52 Danny Bennett 40:54 Brad Blackburn 44:21 Matt Horwich 47:46 dealings with Miguel Iturrate 48:38 Landon Showalter vs Steve McQuarry 49:50 Landon Showalter vs Josh Ribinett 51:06 Landon Showalter vs Drew Fickett 56:18 Dennis Hallman Drew Fickett story 59:01 Landon Showalter vs Chris Leben 1:03:25 Chris Leben on the ultimate fighter 1:03:54 Plugs/ promotions 1:05:16 Landon Showalter vs Joakim Endberg 1:10:07 Landon Showalter vs Dennis Hallman 1:13:32 Dennis Hallman highjinks 1:17:26 Landon Showalter vs Matt Lindland 1:20:47 Landon Showalter vs Steve Bruno 1:25:50 fighting demons during fights 1:27:57 Landon Showalter vs Pete Sell 1:31:21 locker room respect 1:32:03 Otto Olson 1:33:12 Reese Andy 1:33:28 Mike Dolce 1:34:15 Charlie Pearson cardio training 1:34:38 Anthony Hamlett 1:34:53 Phoenix Jones Story 1:38:12 trying out for the ultimate fighter 1:42:19 interview wrap up 1:42:55 outro/ final thoughts
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Outro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power
Mark Robinson hails from South Africa and is known as his countries greatest athlete. Although he had one fight in the UFC, what Mark Robinson accomplished in Sumo and ADCC is absolutely legendary and filled with controversy.
Mark Robinson does not sugar coat feelings nor avoid hard topics that were rumored but never discussed on record. This interview is an incredible look into the dark world of combat sports; bribery, fixed fights often go unspoken within international competitions... NOT in this interview.
0:00 Lytes out intro
0:19 guest introduction
0:37 interview start
1:21 being an athlete in South Africa
2:33 Beating a bronze medalist in Judo
3:38 getting approved to compete in the Olympics
5:19 entering Sumo competition with no experience
7:12 motivation and hard work
8:35 Mark Robinson vs Emmanuel Yarbrough
12:13 Elon Musk injured by Sumo wrestler
12:41 technique vs strength for Sumo
13:50 Mark Robinson vs Ahmad Bally
14:48 Mark Robinson vs Paul Kingi
15:37 Mark Robinson vs Jorg Brummer
16:30 Mark Robinson vs Bat-Erdene
17:15 getting invited to ADCC 1999
18:28 Mark Robinson vs Luis Roberto Duerte
21:38 getting stranded in Atlanta
23:30 training in America
24:48 thoughts on Obake
25:51 returning to ADCC
26:27 Mark Robinson vs Lee Hasdale
27:26 Mark Robinson vs Ricardo Morias
28:49 incidents at early ADCC events
32:39 promoter Jamie Levine
36:27 Mark Robinson vs Bobby Hoffman
39:52 Mark Robinson vs Valeriy Yureskul
40:51 Mark Robinson vs Vitor Belfort
42:30 Mark Robinson vs Jeff Monson
43:42 Mark Robinson vs Ricco Rodriguez
45:53 relationship with ADCC
47:38 Lubomir Guedjev
48:48 the Gracie’s losing at ADCC 2003
50:24 Mark Robinson vs Mike Van Arsedale
51:37 Mark Robinson vs Reese Andy
52:07 training in Brazil
53:03 Ranking career achievements
54:09 current life
55:44 Dricus du plessis title win
59:20 interview wrap up
1:00:06 outro/ final thoughts
Ep 215 Mark Robinson Sumo & ADCC DeepDive
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#MarkColeman #KevinRandleman #MMA Mark Coleman Tribute To Kevin Randleman This is an older recording that we thought would fit right in with this podcast There is no more fitting tribute to Kevin Randleman than that of friend and mentor Mark Coleman. Mark was inspired to speak about Kevin's life and what resulted is nothing short of a mini-DEEPDIVE on Kevin's Hall of Fame career. Thank you Mark.
Mark's tribute is unscripted, barely edited and raw. Just like Kevin.
R.I.P. Kevin Christopher Randleman (August 10, 1971 – February 11, 2016) – gone, but not forgotten.
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Former UFC Matchmaker John Perretti joins us in order to discuss the Contenders Grappling Event and its impact on modern Jiu Jitsu.
John Perretti addresses a lot of the rumors and backstage issues during his tenure with the UFC and does NOT sugarcoat what took place. Perretti is a man that has been scrubbed from the UFC's history books and in this interview you will find out why.
Order John Perretti book here The Origin of a Species https://www.amazon.com/dp/0359347096?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share John Perretti, a man that deserves to be in the UFC Hall of Fame
0:00 Lytes out intro
0:19 Joey Venti’s guest introduction
0:52 interview start
2:04 deciding to accept interviews
3:36 4th Black Belt under Gene LeBell
5:01 Gokor Chivichyan vs Bill Maeda
5:55 Pat Miletich UFC career
9:04 Rickson Gracie not wanting to fight
10:57 offering Royce Gracie $1 million to fight
11:50 training Igor Zinoviev
13:12 losing $200k on The contenders show
16:04 thoughts on the Lions Den
19:35 Vision for matchmaking
20:26 allowing wrestlers to wear shoes
24:11 jiu jitsu vs wrestling
28:04 Igor Zinoviev vs Murilo Bustamante cancelled bout
30:40 being critical of the UFC
33:26 thoughts on Chuck Liddell
36:04 quitting the UFC
37:17 Kevin Jackson vs Frank Shamrock
38:30 Frank Shamrock retiring to get out of contract
39:20 Richard Hamilton
41:40 thoughts on Jeff Osborne
42:09 promoter Jamie Lavine
43:53 Frederico Lapenda
44:55 Monte Cox
46:21 giving Wanderlei Silva his nickname “The Axe Murderer”
47:59 wrestler Bob Anderson
48:45 Ron van Clief story
51:55 Art Davie getting fired from UFC
1:00:18 Pedro Rizzo vs Dan Severn
1:03:47 predicting the UFC would stay around
1:06:22 UFC getting cancelled in New York
1:08:55 Dan Lambert backing money
1:10:57 promoter Dan Duva
1:12:58 John McCain shutting down MMA
1:17:05 UFC 15.5
1:23:27 finding out some fights were works
1:24:57 Matt Hume vs Erik Paulson
1:30:04 John Lewis helping purchase SEG sports
1:31:48 Rickson Gracie money issues
1:35:33 Tom Erikson story
1:37:53 Mark Coleman being upset
1:39:50 John McCarthy Mark Coleman fence grabbing issue
1:43:34 Tank Abbott vs Maurice Smith
1:47:06 James Wormy
1:48:15 David Isaacs
1:49:33 Bruce Beck
1:50:02 Kajas Cage Combat
1:51:00 Townsend Saunders vs Andre Pederneiras
1:53:33 Frank Shamrock vs Jeremy Horn
1:55:50 Matt Hume vs Kenny Monday
1:57:59 Kurt Angle doing commentary
2:00:53 extreme fighting cage current location
2:04:10 interview wrap up
2:08:32 outro/ final thoughts
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Ron Jhun is Hawaii’s only 50 fight club member and had over 40 bouts prior to competing in the UFC.
Ron Jhun is an early pioneer and a legend among the Hawaiian MMA community; we share some funny insights and stories in this very hard to come by interview
Ep 311 Ron Jhun BEFORE the UFC
0:00 MMA history podcast intro 0:32 Joey Venti’s guest introduction 0:53 interview start 1:24 growing up with a boxing pedigree 2:53 training prior to first fight 4:35 learning Jiu jitsu from VHS tapes 5:18 training at Jesus is lord 6:38 reason for David Pa’aluhi retiring 11:39 Ron Jhun vs Eddy Millis 17:01 Ron Jhun vs Eugene Jackson 20:31 Ron Jhun vs Paul Cutts 22:37 Ron Jhun vs James Zikic 24:05 Relson Gracie pushback on the Island 27:21 Ron Jhun vs James Zikic (rematch) 29:24 Ron Jhun vs Marco De Silva 30:43 payout for tournament fights 33:04 winning Super Brawl 14 tournament 36:41 hearing about Scott Coker early on 37:18 running into John Hackleman 39:08 possible relations to KJ Noons 39:45 offered Yuki Sasaki bout in Japan 41:48 experience first time in Japan 43:50 Ron Jhun vs Yuki Sasaki 46:43 interactions with the Yakuza 48:28 Ron Jhun vs Kim Mason 51:11 Drug issues on the Island 53:10 Ron Jhun vs Erik Paulson 59:12 relationship with Erik Paulson 1:02:21 Josh Barnett and Erik Paulson story 1:04:14 Ron Jhun vs Jason Von Flue 1:05:42 promoting on the Underground forums 1:08:27 meeting Sean Shelby and Tom Brady 1:10:41 Ron Jhun vs JT Taylor 1:12:08 Ron Jhun vs Brian Sleeman 1:13:05 Ron Jhun vs Dave Strasser 1:14:08 Ron Jhun vs Joe Stevenson 1:15:31 Ron Jhun vs Pete Spratt 1:17:33 WFA 2001 1:18:58 rolling with John Lewis 1:20:31 self promoting to Blue Belt 1:22:39 John Lewis current life 1:25:01 Ron Jhun current life 1:28:31 football in Hawaii 1:31:30 plugs/ promotions 1:32:12 experience with Cabbage Correira 1:33:44 Ron Jhun vs Jermaine Andre 1:35:28 sponsored by Tapout 1:36:21 Ron Jhun vs Mandatorily Suda 1:39:07 Ron Jhun vs Stephan Potvin 1:40:00 Ron Jhun vs Shonie Carter 1:41:03 Ron Jhun vs Dennis Hallman 1:42:31 Ron Jhun vs Mike Penalber 1:43:06 interview wrap up 1:44:48 outro/ closing thoughts
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Outro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power
Shannon Gugerty cut his teeth in the lawless Tijuana Mexico MMA scene, his insight into the early days of competing in unsanctioned events makes this a must listen to interview. Do you like, Brandon Vera, Jocko Wilnick, Dominic Cruz and Dean Lister? Shannon Gugerty was a part of the glue that held that group together
0:00 Lytes out intro
0:19 guest introduction
0:30 interview start
0:54 beginnings in MMA
2:30 experience with Mark Dion
5:33 meeting Erik DelFiero
7:20 humble beginnings for Dominick Cruz
11:13 issues at Jiu Jitsu tournaments
13:47 Jeff Glover’s personality
14:41 Shannon Gugerty vs Cub Swanson
19:49 experiences fighting in Tijuana
23:07 leaving city boxing for Lister training center
24:56 fighting at an underground event
26:36 Kajas cage combat
28:12 promoter Marco Perez
32:21 Shannon Gugerty vs Shawn Bias
34:01 overcoming 2 straight losses
36:05 experience with Armando Garcia
37:23 being Sponsored by 40 thieves clothing
39:22 training with Rani Yahya
43:08 Drew Fickett drunk story
43:49 Shannon Gugerty vs Paris “La Furia” Ruiz
44:38 Shannon Gugerty vs Lucas Factor
46:28 Throwdown Elite Training center
50:44 Shannon Gugerty vs Johnny Torres
51:10 getting the signed to the UFC
55:58 Shannon Gugerty vs Dale Hart
58:00 Shannon Gugerty vs Spencer Fisher
59:58 Matt Grice
1:01:06 Shannon Gugerty vs Clay Guida
1:02:38 experience at Shine Fights
1:05:27 Shannon Gugerty vs Dennis Bermudez
1:07:15 Shannon Gugerty vs Cruz Gomez
1:07:46 Shannon Gugerty vs Owen Roddy
1:08:28 Connor McGregor yelling from the crowd
1:10:10 promoter Jon Ferguson
1:12:32 training with Max Holloway
1:14:12 plugs/ promotions
1:17:08 Jocko Willink
1:19:49 Concussions during fight career
1:20:54 interview wrap up
1:21:09 outro/ final thoughts
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Outro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power
Charlie Kohler is a staple among the early California NHB scene, this episode Charlie Kohler documents his experience with Sheik Tahnoon and the evolution of what has become the greatest combat sporting tournament in the world.
Charlie Kohler will be coming back very shortly in order to talk about his career within the sport of Mixed Martial Arts
Charlie Kohler ADCC Bebinnings Ep 212
0:00 Lytes out intro
0:19 guest introduction
0:29 interview start
0:56 little online info about Charlie Kohler
1:36 growing up in Hong Kong
3:18 MMA beginnings
5:34 learning how to wrestle
8:52 plugs/ promotions
9:25 beginnings in Jiu Jitsu
12:36 Dan Inosanto
16:58 Charlie Kohler vs John McPherson
20:39 cancelled fight with Shannon Ritch
23:41 going into fighting as a purple belt
23:58 attending the 2nd ADCC
26:51 Charlie Kohler vs Eddie Ruiz
31:08 roommates during ADCC
36:04 Nelson Monteiro friends with Renzo Gracie
36:56 training at ADCC house
39:33 bjj team tournament
47:33 training with lions den members
48:05 coming up with the ADCC rules
55:00 Sheik Tahnoon creating tournaments
58:38 training with Steve Bruno and John Copperhaven
1:02:37 why the Lions Den went under
1:05:13 members that came from the Lions Den
1:08:06 opinion on John Copperhaven
1:11:25 training with Gerald Strebendt
1:19:00 Matt Serra being well rounded
1:21:16 Reggie Cardiel
1:29:24 MMA underground forums
1:31:25 interview wrap up
1:34:37 outro/final thoughts
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Babalu joins us to continue talking about his career and reflects on some of his training partners fights
We don’t skirt around the relationships of the era Luta Livre vs Carlson Gracie, Don Frye bs Marco Ruas and Rafiel Cordero are all discussed here
Babalu Renato Sobral 2005-2007 Deep Dive
0:00 Lytes out intro 0:19 guest introduction 0:26 plugs/promotions 2:11 interview start 2:14 issues in the gym with Hector Lombard 4:00 training Hugo Duarte for Tank Abbott 4:51 Allan Góes beef with Hugo Duarte 5:22 Pedro Rizzo vs Randy Couture 8:12 talking to Pedro Rizzo after loss 9:41 Babalu vs Cyrille Diabate 12:34 thoughts on Joe Moreira 13:11 Carlson Gracie issues with Marco Ruas 15:04 Babalu vs Marcelo Garcia 16:01 training with King Mo 17:38 difficult conversation with Marco Ruas 23:36 Babalu vs Travis Wiuff 24:28 Babalu vs Chael Sonnen rematch 25:11 Babalu vs Mike Van Arsedale 26:09 Babalu vs Antoine Jaoude 28:27 Chuck Liddell getting tougher opponents than Tito Ortiz 31:30 cancelled bout with Tito Ortiz 32:06 training with Pe De Pano 34:01 moving to the states to train with Erik Paulson 35:50 Hector Lombard bullying students 37:36 donating fight shorts to Ryan Bennett memorial fund 38:39 Babalu vs Jason Lambert 39:49 Babalu vs Frank Mir “grappling match” 40:16 getting arrested in Tampa Florida 41:00 Babalu vs David Heath 44:31 calling out Joe Rogan on Talk show 44:55 Babalu vs Rodney Glumder 45:25 being targeted by California Commission 45:53 training Fabricia Verdun 47:49 Kimo Leopoldo 48:12 Master Rafiel Cordero 49:01 training with Robert Emerson 49:14 Justin Fortune 49:52 Jiu Jitsu fighters fearing Marco Ruas 51:10 thoughts on Amaury Bitetti 51:29 thoughts on Joe Silva 52:39 Don Frye vs Marco Ruas rumor 53:08 Interview wrap up/ outro
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Jorge Santiago high school years was spent training with the Brazilian Top Team; Jorge Santiago excelled there and was recruited to the American Top Team.
0:00 Lytes out intro 0:19 guest introduction 0:32 interview start 0:58 plugs promotions 1:56 helping open American top team 2:47 being Murilo Bustamante’s student 5:10 getting picked for American top team 7:00 training before fighting 7:29 Jorge Santiago vs Joseph Agostini 8:25 Jorge Santiago vs Jay Martin 10:06 Gesias Cavalcante coming into Jorge Santiago’s life 12:08 being cursed at KOTC events 13:55 Jorge Santiago vs Lavern Clark 15:04 Jorge Santiago vs Jeremy Horn 15:51 Derrick Noble vs Thiago alves 19:01 Jorge Santiago vs Keith Wisniewski 20:42 Jorge Santiago vs John Cronk 21:24 Jorge Santiago vs Takuya Wada 22:42 Jorge Santiago vs Diego Sanchez 24:53 Jorge Santiago vs Chris Liguori 25:26 going to Holland to fight 26:45 the Dutch Mafia 28:30 Bob Sapp story 30:31 Japanese handler with missing finger 31:38 Jorge Santiago vs Leopoldo Serao 34:35 promoter Andy Foster 35:23 Jorge Santiago vs Sidney Machado 37:10 Carlson Gracie words after fight 38:12 Jorge Santiago vs Thomas Russell 40:33 Jorge Santiago vs Justin Levins 41:26 Jorge Santiago vs Chris Leben 42:41 considering quitting fighting 44:10 Jorge Santiago vs Andrei Semenov 49:32 partying on the Russian ship 51:17 Jorge Santiago vs Jeremy Horn 52:10 experience with Jeff Monson 59:32 Jorge Santiago vs Sean Salmon 1:03:31 Jorge Santiago vs Trevor Prangley 1:04:11 Erik Nichol 1:04:48 manager Alex Davis 1:06:10 4 man tournament in Japan 1:07:12 training at Ryan Bowe’s gym 1:07:40 working with El Tigre 1:08:30 getting a fast submission 1:09:25 Jorge Santiago vs Kazuhiro Nakamura 1:11:34 Jorge Santiago vs Kazuo Misaki 1:13:54 cancelled bout with Vitor Belfort 1:14:27 Glenn Robinson 1:16:29 leaving American Top Team 1:18:04 issues with Hector Lombard 1:19:50 Blackzillians growing too fast 1:21:05 downfall of the Blackzillians 1:22:25 Lawsuits with the Blackzillians 1:25:43 manager Malki Kawa 1:27:16 Mike Brown 1:27:33 Danillo Vilefort 1:28:14 experience with Alexis Villa 1:29:00 Ben Saunders 1:29:20 Gilbert Burns 1:30:20 coach Mike Van Arsedale 1:31:10 training with Kimbo Slice 1:32:15 home life growing up 1:34:40 interview wrap up 1:35:09 outro
Jorge Santiago interview might qualify for one of 2024’s best listens
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Luigi Fioravante MMA journey started in the Marines with Rafiel Torre and Gerald Strebendt. Having trained at the American Top Team, Luigi Fioravante made a name for himself on the independent grind
Luigi Fioravante Career Deep Dive Ep 209
0:00 Lytes out intro 0:19 guest introduction 0:27 interview start 0:31 current life 2:20 joining the marines after high school 2:56 meeting Gerald Strebendt and Rafiel Torre 4:07 training with Rafiel Torre 6:20 finding out about Rafiel Torre Murder 7:17 3/7 Lima co weapons Platoon 7:45 getting connected with Marcio Simas 9:41 cancelled bout with Ross Hagerman 12:20 Luigi Fioravante vs Kiel Reid 13:19 length of training before first fight 15:18 interactions with Kimbo Slice 18:23 Luigi Fioravante vs Thiago Goncalves 21:18 getting noticed for win over Thiago Goncalves 22:41 Luigi Fioravante vs Manuel García 24:00 training with Bobby Robaire 25:22 Florida having great trainers 27:27 moving to American Top team 29:21 Dan Lambert 31:15 rolling with Liborio 33:26 Panama Lewis 35:18 training with Hector Lombard 36:25 experience with Jeff Monson 39:29 training with Thiago Alves 41:35 Luigi Fioravante vs George Allen 44:27 Luigi Fioravante vs Chris Leben 47:49 thoughts on fight career after loss 49:50 Luigi Fioravante vs Stephan Potvin 52:36 getting another call from the UFC 53:48 earning a KO bonus over Soloman Hutcherson 54:15 not getting a contract with the UFC 54:38 Luigi Fioravante vs Hidetaka Monma 57:50 not warming up for fight backstage 1:00:47 mistakes when cutting weight 1:02:14 Luigi Fioravante vs Dave Menne 1:02:28 Luigi Fioravante vs Jon Fitch 1:03:20 Seth Petruzelli vs Kimbo Slice 1:05:53 Seth Petruzelli getting paid to keep fight standing 1:08:27 Corey Hill 1:08:40 Manny Reyes fight rumors 1:09:44 Tom Lawlor 1:10:06 interview wrap up 1:13:03 Outro/ Final thoughts
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KJ Noons has literally fought a who’s who of hall of fame worthy opponents. KJ Noons takes us through his career which features multiple legendary run ins with Nick and Nate Diaz. KJ does NOT give interviews and we need to personally thank friend of the show Timmy Ford for coming through with this guest. Timmy also got us Dean Lister
KJ Noons Career Deep Dive Ep 208
0:00 Lytes out intro 0:19 Joey Venti’s guest introduction 0:47 interview start 0:51 current life 4:38 early start in Martial arts 6:30 beginning Jiu jitsu 7:53 breaking into the fight scene 10:04 KJ Noons vs Travis Johnson 10:26 pride FC trials 11:57 training with Hayato Sakurai 16:07 training with Matt Hume 17:23 being paid to train by Pride FC 18:13 reason for not fighting in Pride FC 19:33 training Kevin Randleman 21:28 Coach Saul Solis 22:15 experience with Kevin Randleman 23:07 Renegade Extreme Fighting 4 man tournament 24:06 moving away from Hawaii 24:52 getting a job at City Boxing 28:36 winning the Pride FC tryout 30:12 KJ Noons vs Harris Sarmiento 32:03 signing with EliteXC 33:47 KJ Noons vs Charles Bennett 37:08 KJ Noons vs Edson Berto 39:24 KJ Noons vs Nick Diaz 42:34 Diaz brothers 46:24 mentality going into Nick Diaz fight 47:19 KJ Noons Nick Diaz Hotel conflict 50:09 KJ Noons vs Nick Diaz rematch 52:16 KJ Noons vs Yves Edwards 57:14 Diaz brothers entering ring during interview 59:44 KJ Noons vs Eddie Alvarez cancelled 1:01:15 EliteXC closing down 1:02:34 finding out EliteXC was over 1:03:45 parting ways with Mark Dion 1:04:43 cancelled bout with Melvin Guillard 1:06:33 KJ Noons vs Enrique Gallegos 1:07:51 KJ Noons vs Conor Heun 1:09:02 KJ father fought reporter Erik Fontanez 1:10:37 Mayhem Miller confronting Jake Shields 1:11:39 KJ Noons vs Jorge Gurgel 1:13:53 going up in weight to rematch Nick Diaz 1:16:15 KJ Noons vs Jorge Masvidal 1:18:59 Billy Evangelista 1:19:36 Josh Thomson 1:20:16 KJ Noons vs Ryan Coutore 1:20:54 KJ Noons vs Donald Cerrone 1:22:06 KJ Noons vs Sam Stout 1:23:29 Daron Cruichshank eye poke 1:24:48 being pulled away from fighting 1:25:44 training with legends 1:26:30 teaching his kids how to fight 1:27:57 interview wrap up 1:29:09 outro/ final thoughts
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Herb Dean joins the LOP to discuss his fight career as well as giving his side to early King of the Cage backstage issues. Herb Dean takes us through the early No Commission days of the California circuit as well as discusses controversial subjects Jeremy Jackson, Rafiel Torre and the Mark Hall vs Ken Shamrock Casino fight. This is a fun listen conversing about issues that are very rarely ever discussed
Herb Dean Fight Career Deep Dive Ep 207
0:00 Lytes out intro 0:19 Joey Venti’s guest introduction 0:46 interview start 1:35 introduction to Martial arts 4:33 plugs/ promotions 7:54 Zane Frazier’s personality 9:52 Cecil Peoples 10:46 beginning referee career 11:29 reffing during the headbutt era 13:09 Kajas cage combat 14:20 being reffed by Chuck Liddell 15:34 Scott Adams grappling level 17:34 Herb Deans core group of fighters 19:05 Joey Venti seeing potential in Herb Dean 20:15 Larry Landless 21:38 interactions with Matt Hume 22:37 Herb Dean becoming assertive 24:24 Patrick Côté vs Ricardo Almeida 26:32 Bobby Gamboa vs Charlie Valencia 28:19 Hitman fight promotion 32:20 Ultimate Athlete 2 38:10 interactions with Rafiel Torre 44:16 favorite KOTC moment 46:34 different cage designs 48:22 Tony Galindo 48:51 Ken Shamrock beating up Mark Hall 50:46 having respect for referees 51:49 west coast fighters vs Midwest fighters 57:21 Herb Dean vs Randy Halmot 59:39 Herb Dean vs Joe Riggs 1:01:41 Todd Medina issues with RITC promoter 1:02:30 Jeremy Jackson getting 30 years 1:07:08 watching Larry Landless fight 1:09:06 Herb Dean vs Jung Gyu Choi 1:13:50 Japan frowning on blood 1:16:03 reffing bloody fights 1:16:47 relationship with Savant Young 1:18:41 Herb Dean vs Dave Legeno 1:20:21 being told to cut hair to referee 1:20:51 beginning of KOTC 1:22:15 learning from Cecil Peoples 1:24:20 Chris Brennan issue with announcer 1:25:39 Don Frye and Obake backstage 1:26:53 Chris Leben vs Brian Sleeman 1:31:31 KOTC 12 Wet and wild 1:35:24 Jason House vs James Fanshier 1:37:26 Herb Dean referee highlights 1:38:35 Herb Deans thoughts on his memes 1:39:21 interview wrap out 1:39:39 outro/ final thoughts
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Bob Gilstrap is a No Holds Barred veteran from the Pacific Northwest. Having fought Josh Barnett two times one could make an argument that the region that he cut his teeth in was the toughest in the entire United States.
Matt Hume, Dennis Hallman, Ivan Salaverry, Benji Radach, Charlie Pearson, Landon Showalter, Mark Schultz, Maurice Smith and the legendary members of Team Quest are all from the exact same area!
Bob Gilstrap takes us through the early days of NHB and paying to have the opportunity to fight in front of your friends and family, THIS IS A FUN LISTEN.
Bob Gilstrap Career Deep Dive Ep 205
0:00 Lytes out intro
0:19 Joey Venti’s guest introduction
0:47 interview start
1:16 beginnings in MMA
3:03 training with Maurice Smith
3:32 dark days of MMA
5:23 NHB era fighters vs current fighters
9:55 Bob Gilstrap vs Chris Munsen
13:09 learning submissions from Matt Hume
15:33 being friends with fighters
16:29 fighters from the pacific Northwest
18:03 Jay R Palmer vs Danny Bennett
21:10 Super Brawl 4
24:13 Bob Gilstrap vs Lance Gibson
27:40 traveling to Hawaii
29:23 relationship with Maurice Smith
30:15 Bob Gilstrap vs Josh Barnett
36:30 Bob Gilstrap vs Jason Fairn
42:21 thoughts on Jason Fairn
45:06 International Vale Tudo Combat
50:51 Joey Venti’s encounter with Bob Gilstrap
54:09 getting the call for UFC 17
56:28 Bob Gilstrap vs Carlos Newton
58:39 cutting weight for UFC fight
1:00:33 Bob Gilstrap vs Gary Armburst
1:01:33 experience with Frank Shamrock
1:02:38 TK Kosaka
1:03:43 Signing contracts to fight
1:06:14 Bob Gilstrap vs Jeff Monson
1:10:46 Going to high school with Dennis Hallman
1:12:16 Lions den tell all
1:13:06 Bas Rutten Tank Abbott story
1:16:02 current relationship with Maurice Smith
1:17:10 plugs/ promotions
1:19:01 interview wrap up
1:19:54 Outro/ final thoughts
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Louis Taylor is currently one of the best MMA trainers in the entire United States, although normally out of the spotlight; Louis Taylor takes us on a journey from getting stiffed by independent promoters to winning the $1 million dollar Professional Fight League tournament. Louis Taylor and his guidance, strategy and foresight has help take Belal Muhammed from a regional stand out and thrust him into a UFC world title fight. This is a rare interview from someone that doesn't do very many Louis Taylor Career Deep Dive Ep 205
0:00 Lytes out intro
0:19 guest introduction
0:29 interview start
0:40 training Belal Muhammad
3:20 Belal muhammad’s first fight
4:30 Belal muhammad vs Alan Jouban
6:23 Belal muhammad vs Vicente Luque
7:51 Muslim religion and beliefs
10:22 Belal muhammad vs Gilbert Burns
12:53 Belal Muhammad’s ankle injury
13:49 Eastern Illinois Wrestling
14:29 experience with Ralph McCausland
15:59 fighting as a broke college student
17:37 Louis Taylor vs Kevin Wachhaus
20:27 Louis Taylor vs Youlian Banov
21:04 Louis Taylor vs Ricco Talamantes
22:16 Coach Roberto Ramirez leaving venue
23:41 Louis Taylor vs Aaron Kreke
25:03 Louis Taylor vs Adam Maciejewski
26:33 Louis Taylor vs Steve Patterson
28:33 Louis Taylor vs Nate Moore
32:07 Louis Taylor vs Ryan Sturdy
33:30 Louis Taylor vs Joe Riggs
35:34 Belal Muhammed’s footwork
40:05 Belal Muhammed training in Chicago
41:14 Belal Muhammed not leaving his hometown
42:33 Belal Muhammed vs Kyle Geary
44:38 trying out for TUF 13
46:37 Louis Taylor vs Jason Louck
47:39 wanting to fight for Strikeforce
48:34 promoter Joe Goytia
50:43 Louis Taylor vs Perry Filkins
52:16 Louis Taylor vs Joe Vedepo
53:35 getting the call from the UFC
55:28 manager Ali Abdelaziz
58:28 Louis Taylor vs David Branch
59:51 PFL 10 4 man tournament
1:04:11 Belal Muhammed vs Steve Carl
1:05:47 choosing a world title over $1 million dollars
1:06:39 trainer Unique
1:08:14 Lyndon Viterri
1:09:16 Mike Cannon
1:10:05 Herc Hayes
1:11:39 Roberto Ramirez
1:12:26 Herc Hayes keeping health issues private
1:16:04 loyalty in the sport of fighting
1:17:26 the 2 types of trainers
1:20:21 interview wrap up
1:21:29 outro/ final thoughts
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Gerald Strebendt is a notorious name within the world of Mixed Martial Arts. Gerald Strenbendt’s story has many twists and turns but it has never been told from his point of view.
This interview is in Gerald’s own words and historically documents his beginnings with the rubber guard and addresses the controversial moments that you have heard Joe Rogan and Eddie Bravo talk about on the JRE.
Gerald Strebendt Career & Conteoversy Ep 204 #JoeRogan #JoeRoganExperience #EddieBravo
0:00 Lytes out intro 0:19 guest introduction 0:28 interview start 1:38 nightmares of past events 2:44 helping develop the rubber guard 4:44 Machado brothers & Eddie Bravo 5:59 Eddie Bravo pushing Jiu jitsu 7:20 training jiu jitsu with punches 8:17 ADCC qualifiers 10:01 Eddie Bravo beating the competition 11:01 Using long sleeve shirt to get over hooks 11:49 preparing Eddie Bravo for Royler Gracie 13:36 fighters not believing in rubber guard 15:07 relationship with Eddie Bravo 16:05 training with Rafiel Torre 17:13 introduction to jiu jitsu 17:54 meeting Rafiel Torre 19:25 Rafiel Torre influenced by fight movies 21:07 the ego of Rafiel Torre 23:08 Eddie Bravo exposing Rafiel Torre 25:13 Joe Rogan not being close with Rafiel Torre 26:33 Relationship with Joe Rogan 27:39 Rafiel Torre’s downfall 31:37 cornering Rafiel Torre fake fight 35:21 Gerald Strebent vs Aaron Herring 36:03 training with Frank Shamrock 36:38 Gerald Strebent vs Mike Meto 39:15 Gerald Strebent vs Aaron Anderson 39:56 being cornered by Bas Rutten 41:07 Gerald Strebent vs Charles Bennett 42:12 Charles Bennett beef with Wanderlei Silva 43:02 Rafiel Torre asking for help with murder 46:45 why Angelina Richards was never charged 47:52 Rafiel Torre getting LWOP 50:33 murder weapon used 52:14 Gerald Strebent coming forward about the crime 54:23 Terry Trebilcock comments 56:51 Gerald Strebent vs Josh Thomson 58:28 courtroom with Joe Rogan Chris Brennan and Eddie Bravo 1:01:51 wiretap of Joe Rogan and Gerald Strebent 1:03:26 the ending of Josh Thomson fight 1:04:27 Getting phone call from Rafiel Torre 1:05:29 blessed and cursed with big events 1:06:31 relationship with Chris Riley 1:07:18 traffic incident shooting 1:08:51 Chael Sonnen comments 1:11:37 Dean Lister using the rubber guard 1:13:09 Sexual Abuse Accusation 1:15:03 movie script and book 1:17:19 getting arrested 1:20:36 student testimonial 1:23:11 getting case overturned 1:25:30 fighting in prison 1:27:44 Rafiel Torre not getting a fair trial 1:29:34 not being able to teach Jiu jitsu 1:30:13 dealing with PTSD 1:32:16 Robert Kilpatrick 1:33:40 Bobby Hoffman 1:35:08 working out with Rampage Jackson 1:36:03 training with Karo Parisian 1:36:59 last time speaking to Eddie Bravo 1:40:17 Bob Sapp 1:42:56 Luigi Fioravante 1:43:21 Obake 1:44:03 interview wrap up 1:47:32 outro/ final thoughts
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Following the huge buzz from Part 1 (#308: "The Rise of EliteXC"), Jared returns for an unfiltered deep dive into the promotion's explosive two-year run that seriously challenged the UFC. Hear the insider stories: nearly signing Brock Lesnar post-K-1, flying Kimbo Slice to LA with a briefcase of cash to lock in MMA's first viral superstar (his 43-second KO of Tank Abbott drew massive Showtime ratings), Gina Carano's breakthrough win over Tonya Evinger at Uprising in Hawaii (despite her tough weight cut), and the bold events that pushed women's MMA forward while building legitimacy with fighters like Robbie Lawler and Nick Diaz. Shaw opens up on the highs (CBS primetime deals bringing MMA to millions), the internal chaos, financial struggles, and the dramatic 2008 collapse after the Heat event controversy. Plus, personal reflections like his life-changing open-heart surgery at 19. This is authentic MMA history straight from the VP who lived it-raw, revealing, and essential for any fight fan. Tune in tomorrow on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. Subscribe and hit notifications so you don't miss it!
0:00 MMA history podcast intro 0:32 Joey Venti’s guest introduction 0:52 interview start 3:11 Bjorn Rebney reputation 4:53 talks of signing Brock Lesnar to Elite XC 7:05 bad matchmaking for Brock Lesnar 9:14 open heart surgery at an early age 12:40 EliteXC Uprising in Honolulu 13:37 importance of Rich Chou 16:37 TJay Thompson brought in by Rich Chou 18:04 Patrick Freitas 20:48 Matchmaking process 24:26 coming up with weight classes for event 27:18 Gina Carano struggling to make weight 27:52 revitalizing Robbie Lawler 29:33 contacting Icey Mike about Kimbo Slice 34:14 signing Kimbo Slice to Elite XC 36:53 dealing with the California Athletic Commission 40:26 Chuck Champion makes organization cuts 43:35 Mike Pyle refusing to fight for the title 47:19 Kimbo vs Bo Cantrell 51:56 KJ Noons vs Nick Diaz 59:28 Nick Diaz importance for Elite XC 1:00:36 conversations with Dream FC 1:02:54 conversations with Ken Shamrock 1:04:04 Eddie Alvarez being a huge ticket seller 1:05:05 EliteXC Street Certified event 1:11:55 viewership for Street Certified event 1:14:06 dealings with Ken Pavia 1:15:18 dealings with Jeremy Lappen 1:21:29 Scott Smith improper matchmaking 1:23:19 interview wrap up/ sneak preview 1:26:19 outro/ closing thoughts
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Lamon Brewster takes us through his humble beginnings of fighting Felix Savon to beating Wladimir Klitschko for the world title.
Lamon Brewster life plays out like a movie, in this interview we get into the details that makes his journey special as well as his mindset heading into his biggest fights. Although this is our first interview diving into the world of boxing, you will agree that it holds up to the same expected standard of our MMA and BJJ interviews.
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Travis Thompson is a rugged, durable bare knuckle fighter that has captured the respect of the BKFC locker room. Travis Thompson takes us through his time with legendary Philadelphia trainer Marty Feldman, to fighting at BKFC 1 and taking a world title fight against Dat Nguyen on less than a weeks notice. Travis Thompson is a guy that you can't help but be a fan of.
Obake Tim Catalfo Career Deep Dive Ep 201 "Obake" Tim Catalfo is a legend from the No Holds Barred era of the sport of Mixed Martial Arts. Obake takes us on his journey from fighting in Brazil to training World Champion Mark Coleman Obake Tim Catalfo Career Deep Dive Ep 201
0:00 Lytes out intro 0:19 Joey Venti’s guest introduction 0:57 interview start 1:50 moving to Atlanta 2:17 attending Scott Ferrozo vs Steve Grinnow fight 3:27 pushing wrestling over jiu jitsu 4:53 judging Kevin Randleman vs Bas Rutten fight 7:15 UFC not favoring Hammer house 8:55 Connecting with Mark Coleman 11:07 entry into MMA 13:56 Obake vs Joe Pardo 17:55 Obake vs Alexandre Ferreira 20:25 cornering Mark Coleman in Pride fc 22:21 Brandon Hinkle vs Travis Fulton “cage falling apart” 23:58 promoter Andy Foster 25:02 opening a gym with Bill Goldberg 25:57 Obake vs Dave Beneteau 27:04 calling out Don Frye after fight 31:18 Obake vs Bobby Hoffman 34:21 relationship with Terry Trebilcock 35:02 Obake vs Tom Erickson 36:25 not being chosen to fight in Pride fc 38:38 opinion on Rickson Gracie’s fights 40:24 Gerald strebendt 40:51 training with Jake Goode 41:40 Marcus Jones 41:51 Tony Vartanian 42:17 training with Charles Bennett 42:44 Jeremy Horn 43:11 rumor of fixed fight 44:06 Wes Sims 44:36 training WCW wrestlers 45:34 promoter Jamie Levine 46:39 takeaways from early MMA 48:14 choosing to fight 49:22 interview wrap up 49:51 outro/ final thoughts
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Joe Moreira was one of the first Jiu Jitsu black belts to arrive in the United States.
Joe Moreira takes us through his start with Reylson Gracie to his transition to instructing Marco Ruas at Kings MMA.
There is very little public documentation about Joe Moreira and this interview goes DEEP
Special Thank You to Bernard Magalhaes and Fred Hammer for helping land this historic interview.
Joe Moreira Jiu Jitsu Legend Ep 200
0:00 Lytes out intro 0:19 guest introduction 0:40 interview start 0:42 starting Judo at 5 years old 2:55 George Medi conflict with the Gracie’s 4:13 training with Carlson Gracie and Rolls Gracie 7:38 training with Reylson Gracie 8:40 moving to the United States 10:09 meeting Cab Garrett 15:26 Joe Moreira vs Rickson Gracie 20:02 impressing Hélio Gracie 22:12 relationship with Reylson Gracie 24:00 Francisco Mansor and Georges Mehdi 26:41 training with Marco Ruas 27:40 Marco Ruas challenging Rickson Gracie 29:00 relationship with Allan Góes 31:06 Allan Góes not being invited to ADCC 32:03 relationship with Carlson Gracie 35:29 Ricardo Libório 37:13 Atlantico Sul Cup BJJ tournament 38:48 influence from Francisco Mansur 41:47 organizing the early Pan Americans 45:54 getting into the UFC 50:19 Joe Moreira vs Zane Frazier 51:52 Joe Moreira vs Paul Varlens 54:41 Meeting Marco Ruas and Eugenio Tadeu 57:11 Marco Ruas beating up Pedro Rizzo 59:15 training Tank Abbott 1:01:39 Tank Abbott and Allan Goes crowd fight 1:05:09 Kimo Leopoldo saving Joe Moreira 1:09:30 secretly training with Marco Ruas 1:11:12 Joe Moreira International Open 1997 1:15:47 Rockson Gracie Vs Many Gamburyan issues 1:16:44 relationship with son 1:19:39 Joe Moreira vs Uri Vaulin 1:21:53 promoting Marco Ruas to black belt 1:24:44 Kimo Leopoldo contract for Royce Gracie fight 1:27:02 backlash from the Gracie’s 1:28:56 Carlson Gracie training Marco Ruas 1:31:39 being the only black belt without Gracie name at one time 1:33:55 training Tito Ortiz for ADCC 1:35:30 Tito Ortiz vs Wanderlei Silva 1:37:26 Joe Moreira vs Joe Son 1:39:39 Joe Moreira vs Paul Herrera 1:43:10 Marc Laimon student 1:44:39 Joe Moreira vs Royler Gracie 1:46:35 Rhadi Ferguson 1:48:00 no one wanting to fight Cafe Dantas 1:49:49 Rolls Gracie 1:51:06 Ricardo Teixeira 1:51:31 Randy Bloom 1:52:04 Anderson Goncalves 1:52:53 Michael Jen 1:53:37 interview wrap up 1:55:20 outro/ final thoughts
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Rich Chou cut his teeth in MMA with the Hawaiian promotion Rumble on the Rock. Quickly establishing himself as a match maker, he also worked for EliteXC, StrikeForce and Bellator. Rich Chou currently works for Alta and recently purchased MixedMartialArts.com and its “Underground Forum” message board.
Rich Chou Deep Dive Ep 199
0:00 Lytes out intro
0:19 guest introduction
0:37 interview start
0:41 early beginnings in bjj
1:41 doing business with Enson Inoue
3:36 getting “Purebred”on the ultimate fighter
5:47 selling clothing at ADCC
7:22 getting a phone call from Dana White
9:36 meeting JD Penn
12:11 becoming a matchmaker/ promoter
14:41 BJ Penn leaving the UFC
16:13 Contract issues with the UFC
18:23 getting a call from EliteXC
20:09 conflict with TJ Thompson
24:08 the vision for EliteXC
25:40 KJ Noons vs Yves Edwards
29:56 Nate Diaz brawl
31:00 Ken Shamrock cut prior to Kimbo slice fight
35:01 opinion on the Ken Shamrock cut
36:12 realizing it was the end of EliteXC
38:29 Signing Kimbo Slice to EliteXC
41:44 Nick Diaz Boxing Clause in contract
42:51 criticism for bringing in fighters
44:28 Experience with Bob Cook
46:19 Rumble on the Rock 8
49:17 Cabbage vs Butterbean
52:24 special rules for the fight
57:05 Bj Penn vs Ralph Gracie cancelled
1:00:02 attendance for Bj Penn vs Renzo Gracie
1:02:50 mixedmartialarts.com
1:04:36 growing the MMA community
1:07:46 fight finder
1:12:59 learning about fighters on fight finder
1:14:43 censorship/ freedom of speech
1:17:02 trainalta.com/ 20 week camp
1:21:32 fights that didn’t come to fruition
1:24:32 Fedor Emelianenko’s management
1:25:27 Strikeforce never being hosted in Russia
1:27:30 promotions/ plugs
1:28:22 Ken shamrock vs Kimbo Slice being relocated
1:30:22 sneak peak of Underground Forum
1:32:19 BKFC/ Dave Feldman
1:35:11 interview wrap up/ outro
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Dean Lister and his accomplishments within combat sports has seen him fight in the UFC as well as inducted into the ADCC Hall of Fame. Dean Lister takes us on his journey from being on the regional mma scene all the way to Abu Dhabi and Japan. Dean Lister is an open book in this historic interview.
Thank You Tim Ford for connecting us with this special episode.
Timestamps (Thanks to Andrew Mendoza) 0:00 Lytes Out Intro 0:19 Joey Venti’s Guest Introduction 1:03 Interview Start 1:25 MMA Beginnings 3:09 Fabio Santos Gym 3:32 Finding Sambo Early 4:54 Learning Submissions 6:08 Becoming a Black Belt in Luta Livre 7:40 Experience with Fabio Santos 9:12 Leg Lock Submissions 14:32 Where the Leg Lock Idea Came From 17:35 Joe Moreira International Open 20:23 Dean Lister vs David Terrell 23:01 Relson Gracie punching Bobby Southworth 24:08 Dean Lister vs John Jenson 26:26 Dean Lister vs Jacen Flynn 30:45 ADCC pre qualifier 2001 32:30 Training with Brazilian Top Team 34:23 Previous Roommates 35:20 ADCC Experience 37:21 Pursuing MMA career 39:00 Dean Lister vs Jerry Jenkins 41:08 Dean Lister vs Brendan Seguin 44:53 Training Tito Ortiz 46:36 Dean Lister vs Illir Latifi 47:56 Erik Paulson 48:55 ADCC absolute Devision 50:00 Dean Lister vs Márcio Cruz 52:43 Dean Lister vs Alexandre Ferreira 53:11 Tastest Submission Bonus 56:13 Dean Lister vs Brian Sleeman 57:25 Dean Lister vs Jeremy Horn 1:01:28 Locker Room Respect 1:02:37 Terry Trebilcock 1:03:49 Training Rulon Garner 1:07:17 Dean Lister vs Amar Suloev 1:10:50 Experience at Pride FC 1:11:50 Dean Lister vs Ricardo Arona 1:13:12 Meeting with the Yakuza 1:20:33 Being Released from Pride FC 1:21:20 Experience with Orlando Sanchez 1:22:19 Dean Lister vs Marc Laimon 1:24:12 Dean Lister vs Alessio Sakara 1:27:05 Practicing Rubber guard 1:29:05 Dean Lister vs Yuki Sasaki 1:31:19 Cancelled fight with Roger Gracie 1:33:58 Dean Lister vs Jordan Radev 1:34:52 Experience with Joe Silva 1:35:39 Pretending to train James Toney 1:37:35 Rickson Gracie 1:38:14 Experience with Haymakers Empire 1:38:45 Dean Lister vs Jeremy Horn 2 1:41:53 Dean Lister vs Yushin Okami 1:45:05 Career Highlights 1:45:52 Micro Dosing 1:48:03 Training with Mirko Cro Cop 1:50:04 ADCC super fight with Fedor Emelianenko 1:52:18 Dean Lister vs Glover Teixeira 1:53:07 Experience with Mark Pavlich 1:54:10 Near Death Experience 1:56:12 Winning ADCC at Age 35 2:01:54 interview wrap up 2:04:10 outro/ closing thoughts
Ivan Menjivar is the definition of Canadian Martial Arts Pioneer. Ivan Menjivar shares with us the difficulty of immigrating to Canada and the reason that got him into fighting.
Ivan Menjivar career is something that gave him international respect before the 135 pound weight class existed.
Timestamps (Thanks to Andrew Mendoza!) 0:00 Lytes Out Intro 0:19 Guest Introduction 0:54 Interview Start 1:00 Getting to Canada from El Salvador 3:07 Being Targeted by Kidnappers 5:39 Joining a Gang in High School 10:01 Learning Jiu Jitsu 13:16 Training at Tristar Gym 14:55 Learning Techniques from Videos and Magazines 16:40 Meeting Wagnney Fabiano 21:20 Ivan Menjivar vs David Guigui 22:27 First Amateur Fight at 16 Years Old 25:08 Ivan Menjivar vs Jean Francois Bolduc 26:24 Not Being Talented Early in Fighting 28:45 Confusion when Air Horn Goes off During Fight 29:58 Ivan Menjivar vs George St Pierre/Missing Weight 30:50 Taking Fights at higher weight classes 31:37 Bad Referee Calls 37:32 Learning Wrestling in Canada 40:29 Ivan Menjivar vs Jason Black 44:58 Fighter Progression 49:40 Ivan Menjivar vs Jeff Curran 51:21 Studying and Planning for Fights 56:20 Putting Vaseline on Ring Mat 59:16 Ivan Menjivar vs JR Palmer 1:00:58 Not Being a Big Ticket Seller 1:02:32 JR Palmer Aggression During Fight 1:06:34 JR Palmer at the Weigh Ins 1:08:17 Georges St-Pierre Becoming a Complete Martial Artist 1:11:37 Learning from Losses 1:12:15 Fallout with Stephane Patry 1:14:11 Ivan Menjivar vs Max Marin 1:15:44 Promoter Mark Pavlich 1:16:27 Ivan Menjivar vs Vitor Rideiro 1:19:26 Work Visa Issues Before UFC 46 1:20:37 Signing with Aristeia management 1:21:45 Ivan Menjivar vs Matt Serra 1:23:01 Ivan Menjivar vs Miki Shida 1:25:18 Ivan Menjivar vs Joe Lauzon 1:25:35 Ivan Menjivar vs Urijah Faber 1:30:59 Learning the Calf Slicer 1:33:22 Career Highlights 1:36:22 Getting Sued by Stephane Patry 1:40:43 Caol Uno Illegal Kicks 1:42:50 Meeting Carlos Newton 1:43:41 Ivan Menjivar vs Bart Palaziewski 1:45:30 Current Training/Life 1:46:42 David Loiseau 1:47:58 Ali Nestor 1:49:32 Interview Wrap Up 1:53:35 Outro/Closing Thoughts
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Tony Fryklund made a name for himself under the world famous Miletich Fighting Systems, Tony Fryklund and his story start far before that. In this emotional interview Tony Fryklund takes us through his unique upbringing and his quest for greatness.
Timestamps (Thanks to Andrew Mendoza!) 0:00 Lytes Out Intro 0:19 Joey Venti’s guest introduction 0:46 Interview Start 2:14 Plugs/Promotions 3:42 Beginnings/Michael DePasquale 6:15 Being an Alternate Match at UFC 14 8:28 Post Fight issues with Donnie Chappell 12:11 Fighting Kevin Jackson on Short Notice 16:44 UFC not Wanting Mike Swain in Early Events 18:38 Taking 4 years Off After Loss 19:33 Meeting Pat Miletich 21:27 Promoter Jamie Levine/ Monte Cox 22:41 Being too Small to Fight 175 26:36 Tony Fryklund vs Marty Armendarez 28:30 Sparring sessions with the Miletich camp 31:36 Training with Steve Rusk 34:36 Promoter Brad Kohler 36:50 Not getting Paid for Adrien Serrano Fight 38:42 Tony Fryklund vs Stephan Patry 40:05 Tony Fryklund vs Rodrigo Ruas 44:47 Lee Murray Vs Tito Ortiz in Street Fight 49:25 Meeting with Dana white and the Fertitta’s 52:46 Altercation with Tank Abbott 59:34 Confronting Tiki Ghosn 1:06:50 Getting kicked out of the UFC 1:09:44 Tony Fryklund vs David Loiseau 1:18:00 Seeing spirits 1:23:01 Tony Fryklund vs Brian Ebersole 1:26:27 Tony Fryklund vs Eugene Jackson/ not getting paid 1:29:21 Rich Franklin head kick 1:31:42 Phil Baroni asking to train with Tony Fryklund 1:34:37 Letter from Chael Sonnen 1:37:18 Tony Fryklund vs Matt Lindland 1:38:18 Tony Fryklund vs Cung Lee 1:40:33 Josh Neer 1:41:58 Justin Eilers 1:44:33 Matt Hughes 1:48:44 Interview wrap up 1:49:28 Outro/Closing Thoughts
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Fabiano Iha is a retired Brazilian mixed martial artist. He competed in the Lightweight division, fighting in several organizations, including the Ultimate Fighting Championship and PRIDE.
Timestamps (Thanks to Andrew Mendoza!) 0:00 Lytes out intro 0:19 Joey Venti’s Guest Introduction 0:45 Interview Start 0:48 Coaching at Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu 2:17 Getting Discovered by the UFC 3:59 Beginnings in Jiu-Jitsu 5:46 Invitation to compete in ADCC 6:55 Fabiano Iha vs Renzo Gracie 8:54 Experience at ADCC 1998 10:01 Grappling with Kazushi Sakuraba 11:21 Being an Alternate Fighter against Frank Trigg 13:21 Relationship with Marco Ruas 16:05 Fabiano Iha vs John Borsos 16:58 Moving to the United States to fight 17:58 UFC 3 Kimo Leopoldo Controversy 21:14 Locker Room during UFC 3 21:45 Rickson Gracie Asking for 1 Million to Fight in UFC 3 23:47 Royce Gracie Towel Throw In 25:07 Royce Gracie vs Harold Howard Opinion 25:53 Being on the Phone While Cornering Tito Ortiz During Fight 28:03 Ken Shamrock Being Friendly with Tito Ortiz at King of the Cage Event 32:00 Experiences Training Vitor Belfort 34:24 Training Mark Kerr 37:46 Car Accident in Big Bear 39:00 Training with Gerald Strebendt 39:29 Fabiano Iha vs Yves Edwards 40:28 Cleber Luciano Challenging Fabiano Iha 45:13 Victor Hunsaker 48:12 Fabiano Iha vs Cleber Luciano 49:18 Cleber Luciano’s Wife Causing Issues 51:31 Training with the RAW Team 53:56 Thoughts on Rico Chiapparelli 54:28 Controversy for Training with the RAW Team 57:26 Gracie’s Holding Back Moves When Training 59:50 Adjusting to California from Brazil 1:00:59 Rumor of Fighting on Adult Movie Scene/Yves Edwards Story 1:00:27 Marco Ruas Challenging Rickson Gracie 1:05:17 Thoughts on Rickson Gracie 1:11:38 Fabiano Iha vs Laverne Clark 1:15:57 Fabiano IHa vs Frank Trigg 1:16:52 Fabiano Iha vs Dave Menne 1:19:54 Fabiano Iha vs Danny Bennet 1:22:02 Fabiano Iha vs Phil Johns 1:26:29 Fabiano Iha vs Caol Uno 1:29:26 Punishment Athletics with Tito Ortiz 1:30:18 Experience with Wander Braga 1:31:00 Fabiano Iha vs Flavio Troccoli/ Fake Results 1:32:16 Backstage at Hitman Fighting Promotions 2 1:33:18 Training with Renato Sobral 1:34:40 XFC Rebirth Cancelled 1:35:37 Armando Garcia 1:38:05 Kajas Creating the Octagon Cage 1:40:26 Difficulties Moving from Brazil 1:44:15 Jason Fairn 1:45:08 Chad Washburn 1:46:07 Training with Erik Paulson 1:47:46 UFC 33 training issues 1:51:01 Interview wrap up 1:52:35 Outro/Closing thoughts
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Wander Braga is a legend amongst the early No Holds Barred era of competition. Wander allows us some incredible insight into his life and what was taking place behind the scenes of the early days of MMA.
Wander Braga and the MMA Detective, Mike Davis go through a deep dive into Wander Braga's MMA Career from the beginning!
Timestamps (MASSIVE Shout Out to Andrew Mendoza!) IG: @ambidextress 0:00 Lytes Out Intro 0:19 Mike Davis Guest Introduction 0:40 Interview Start 0:58 Early Beginnings in Jiu-Jitsu 04:07 Rigan Machado as First Coach/Being Promoted to Yellow Belt 04:55 Learning About MMA from Jorge Pereira 06:43 Deciding to Compete in MMA 08:46 Sau Palo Freestyle Fight Circuit 10:04 Competing in Tournament Last Minute 16:03 Sand Falling out of Pockets During First Fight 19:14 Family Watching fights on TV 22:42 First Tournament as a Yellow Belt 24:24 Jorge Pereira Appreciation 26:24 Looking up to Leo Dalla 29:39 Training with RAW team 30:44 Issues with Training at RAW Due to Former Training Partners 32:18 Training with Frank Trigg 33:29 Realizing he needed to Learn Muay Thai 34:54 Evolution of Jiu-Jitsu 36:45 Jiu-Jitsu vs Luta Livre 38:22 Dealings with Paquetau/Always receiving freebies From Him 41:34 Meeting Carlson Gracie 42:47 Not Getting Paid for Competing in Tournaments 45:11 Choosing Fighting Over College 46:47 Business Plugs/Promotions 48:03 Circuito de Lutas 2 49:21 Circuito de Lutas 3 49:56 Training judo with George Mehdi 50:29 Meeting Alex Davis 51:33 Jorge Pereira vs Ebenezer Braga/First Women’s NHB Event That Night 53:59 Fighters Competing for the Love of the Sport and Not the Money 54:43 Frederico Lapenda Experiences
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Dive deep into the raw origins of UFC veteran Ed "Short Fuse" Herman - The Ultimate Fighter Season 3 runner-up, a middleweight powerhouse with 26 official UFC bouts (plus his TUF Octagon appearances), 13 wins inside the promotion, and an impressive eight post-fight bonuses, including Knockout of the Night, Submission of the Night, Fight of the Night, and Performance of the Night honors. As the UFC's longest consecutively tenured athlete, his journey is legendary. From his gritty Pacific Northwest roots, wrestling under the influence of Dan Gable's legacy, to grinding at Team Quest alongside legends like Randy Couture, Matt Lindland, and Chael Sonnen, Ed shares untold stories of his pre-UFC wars against future stars like Glover Teixeira and Nick Thompson. Now retired after a storied career spanning 2003-2023, he's giving back as owner of Short Fuse Martial Arts in Vancouver, WA, and coach at American Top Team Portland, mentoring the next generation.
From his gritty Pacific Northwest roots, wrestling under the influence of Dan Gable's legacy, to grinding at Team Quest alongside legends like Randy Couture, Matt Lindland, and Chael Sonnen, Ed shares untold stories of his pre-UFC wars against future stars like Glover Teixeira and Nick Thompson. Now retired after a storied career spanning 2003-2023, he's giving back as owner of Short Fuse Martial Arts in Vancouver, WA, and coach at American Top Team Portland, mentoring the next generation. Hosted by MMA detective Mike Davis and Joey Venti - the only podcast preserving MMA's untold history through exclusive interviews. Don't miss this kickoff to 2026!
0:00 MMA history podcast intro 0:32 Joey Venti’s guest introduction 0:53 interview start 0:57 plugs/ promotions 1:52 training at team quest 3:05 wrestling in High school 5:03 experience with Phil Baroni 6:11 Chael Sonnen hard worker comment 6:59 early career managers 8:50 training prior to first fight 9:52 joining Team Quest 11:51 having a rough upbringing 17:55 Ed Herman vs Noel Tworek 19:43 Ed Herman vs Byron Yates 20:54 Ed Herman vs Andrew Taylor 23:44 Bouncer work for a strip club 26:40 feelings after first loss 27:43 Ed Herman vs Ryan Pope 28:50 Ed Herman vs Shane Davis 30:57 training with Dennis Hellman and Jeff Monson 32:09 Ed Herman vs Rich Guerin 34:51 Ed Herman vs Derek Downey 36:05 coaching at Team Quest 37:04 Ed Herman vs Justin Hawes 37:50 Ed Herman vs Jacen Flynn 39:01 Ed Herman vs Cory Devela 39:39 Ed Herman vs Shane Davis “rematch” 40:15 flying to Japan to fight 41:00 Ed Herman vs Kazou Misake 45:03 Ed Herman vs Brian Ebersole 46:18 Ed Herman vs Joe Doerkson 47:27 trying out for TUF season 1 50:04 Ed Herman vs Glover Teixeira 53:18 Ed Herman vs Rhomez Brower 54:23 Ed Herman vs Nick Thompson 56:34 Ed Herman vs Dave Menne 57:56 calling out Matt Hughes post fight 59:22 teammate Ryan Schultz 59:58 relationship with Evan Tanner 1:01:35 thoughts on Matt Lindland 1:03:17 Kim Couture 1:03:55 reaction to Team Quest splitting 1:08:12 working out with Jesse Taylor 1:08:35 interview wrap up 1:13:29 outro/ closing thoughts
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Rafael Natal had a 17 fight stint in the UFC; in this interview we concentrate on Rafael Natal journey from Brazil to becoming a household name. Rafael Natal came highly recommended from Draculino and this interview does not disappoint.
0:00 Lytes out intro 0:19 Mike Davis guest introduction 0:39 interview start 1:10 early beginnings doing Judo 2:04 Getting introduced into Jiu-Jitsu 4:06 Rafael Natal’s early training partners 6:22 Rafael Natal being loyal to his coach 7:50 Earning Vinicius Draculino’s respect 10:07 Accepting challenge to fight 3 times in 1 night 11:15 Experience at championship night 12/ first thoughts when arriving to the event 14:59 Beating Valter Luiz Da Silva in the 2nd round 16:01 Rafael Natal’s family reaction to him winning the tournament 18:15 Experience with Gunnar Nelson 19:07 Where Rafael Natal’s work ethic comes from/ growing up poor 24:09 Rafael Natal being a true veteran of the sport 25:02 Realizing he was able to fight at an elite level 26:04 Training with Vitor Belfort 29:27 Fighting Danillo Villefort on short notice/ breaking hand during fight 34:20 Rafael Natal winning 2nd tournament with a broken hand 38:16 Payout for winning first tournament 38:52 Ali Abdelaziz 39:49 How Rafael Natal became friends with Ali Abdelaziz 41:57 Ali Abdelaziz taking him to the hospital to treat staph infection 43:37 Fighting Silmar Rodrigo 46:09 Dealing with first loss to Eduardo Telles 49:24 Relationship with Vinicius Draculino 51:54 Ali Abdelaziz getting fight set up with Jon Kirk 53:36 Experience with Lou Neglia 54:04 Ricardo Almeida’s wife gets Rafael Natal a contract with Ring of combat 54:50 Fighting Alexandre Moreno 55:53 First impressions of Renzo Gracie 56:43 Training with Chris Weidman 57:33 Beginning to train wrestling 58:59 Fighting Plinio Cruz 59:57 Losing to victor O’Donnell/ injuring knee 3 days before fight 1:03:21 Rafael Natal’s thoughts walking into the ring/ dealing with emotions the morning of his fights 1:06:02 training with André Gusmão 1:07:36 moving to New York from Brazil 1:09:12 Macaco rivalry with the Gracie’s 1:10:46 living full time in New York 1:11:45 Dealing with winter time in New York for the first time 1:12:27 Travis Lutter being the biggest fight of Rafael Natal’s career 1:14:23 Training with Ricardo Almeida/ first time meeting Ricardo Almeida 1:17:26 Teaching at Renzo Gracie’s school 1:20:16 Getting the call to fight for the UFC 1:20:55 Fight with Rich Attonito 1:23:35 Relationship with Joe Silva 1:24:39 Rafael Natal believing in Karma 1:25:28 Rafael Natal business plugs/ promotions 1:25:56 Having bad cardio during Jesse Bongfeldt fight 1:29:17 Rafael Natal’s corner not letting him go to the hospital 1:30:37 Fighting Paul Bradley on a week notice 1:32:06 Breaking hand during Paul Bradley fight 1:32:21 Phil Nurse 1:33:50 interview wrap up 1:39:53 Outro/ closing thoughts
Rafael Natal BEFORE the UFC Ep 192
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UFC founder Art Davie weighs in on UFC 1 October and the road to Nov 11 1993. Art Davie gives is a candid behind the scenes look at all of the moving parts of the first UFC.
UFC October started with Ken Shamrock and is ending with Art Davie.
0:00 Lytes Out Intro 0:19 Joey Venti’s guest introduction 1:15 interview start 1:29 Art Davie’s book “Is this legal?”/ Sean Wheelock helping with the book 5:34 Sean Wheelock work ethic/ involvement with combat sports 6:35 Art Davie recalls Chris Lytle’s fighting career 8:47 Art Davie tells story meeting Rorion Gracie 11:31 creating a tournament with no rules/ finding a state with no athletic commission 14:03 Zane Frazier throwing Frank dux over the table story 16:29 why Rickson Gracie was not in UFC 1 18:24 video tape of Rickson Gracie wrestling Mark Schultz 19:34 Dan Severn helping recruit wrestlers for UFC 20:34 issues betweenGene LeBell and Rorion Gracie 21:41 Ernesto Hoost/ meeting Gerard Gordeau 24:32 First time talking to Ken Shamrock about UFC 1 26:27 Ken Shamrock not believing Royce Gracie was a good fighter 28:03 Gracie’s filming the fighters for the pre fight workout 29:10 Art Jimmerson wanting to pull out of UFC 1 30:16 how Art Davie found Teila Tuli 31:16 Gerard Gordeau smoking between fights 32:44 problems at the fighter meeting with Rorion Gracie 34:49 Helio Vigio story 37:24 Big John McCarthy making the unified rules for the UFC 38:08 not giving out fines to fighters at UFC 9 38:56 Frank Hamaker story 40:18 UFC 2 being more brutal than UFC 1 43:06 Kimo Leopoldo wanting jiu jitsu lessons from the Gracie’s 44:24 Art Davie tells Kimo Leopoldo cross story 47:16 hesitation to have Ron van Clief fight in UFC 4 48:12 Rickson Gracie wanting $1 million to fight in UFC 6/ Rorion Gracie not wanting to sell the UFC 50:51 getting hired as UFC commissioner by Bob Meyrowitz 51:22 wrestlers taking over the UFC 51:54 fighters being afraid of Mark Coleman 52:50 matching up Maurice Smith against Mark Coleman 54:18 Ken Shamrock turning down $60,000 to fight Harold Howard 54:43 problems with Vitor Belfort and Mark Coleman 55:32 Big John McCarthy issues with Mark Coleman fence grabbing during fight 56:41 Pete Williams head kick to Mark Coleman with shoes on 58:56 fighters having to adapt to the new rules 1:00:32 Art Davie deciding to sell the UFC after UFC 5 1:01:13 Andy Anderson getting locked up for 35 years 1:03:08 why Art Davie preferred no holds barred/ boxer head injuries 1:06:08 Chris Lytle and Art Davie talk difference between glove and bare knuckle 1:07:01 relationship with Tank Abbott / Pat smith elevator attack 1:10:35 Igor Vovchanchyn no showing UFC event rumor 1:11:00 meeting Julian Sanchez 1:11:39 Art Davie recalls IFC event 1:12:48 trying to find new locations UFC 1:13:55 the Gracie’s looking for Gerard Gordeau after bitting Royce Gracie’s ear 1:17:39 relationship with charlie Anzalone 1:18:43 Fang Maturi 1:19:28 relationship with Rorion Gracie 1:21:21 interview wrap up 1:21:54 closing thoughts
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Art Davie UFC 1 Deep Dive Ep 191
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UFC 1 ring announcer Rich Goins welcomed the a brand new sport into our homes that would change the direction of our lives. Our UFC 1 October would NOT be complete without the legendary voice of Rich Goins joining us. This interview was NOT an easy one to get and we hope that you appreciate it as much as we do.
0:00 Lytes out intro
0:19 Joey Venti’s guest introduction
0:47 interview start
1:23 Rich Goins current life/ career
2:21 business plugs/ promotions
3:01 Landing UFC 1 gig
5:51 the Sabaki challenge
7:52 Denver not having a boxing commission
9:00 meeting fighters for UFC 1
10:31 Gracies filming fighters before the fights
12:10 Gracie family backstage
12:36 Teila Tuli was in trouble
14:24 fighters that made impressions
15:37 Gerard Gordeau smoking In-between fights
17:20 UFC 1 pre fight rules meeting
18:16 Rorion Gracie not allowing fighters to wear gloves/ shoes
19:42 Zane Frazier being vocal about the rules
20:47 Teila Tuli vs Gerard Gordeau
24:28 Rich Goins first time seeing the octagon
27:17 current location of UFC 1 octagon
27:53 Teila Tuli’s tooth inside of Gerard Gordeau’s foot
28:52 Pat Smith reputation
31:36 Rich Goins recalls Pat Smith’s life
34:01 Aftermath of UFC 1
37:29 Erik Paulson being cage side for UFC 1
39:28 UFC contacting Rich Goins to announce for UFC 2
43:44 Denver running out of ambulances for UFC 2
46:29 Pat Smith vs Scott Morris UFC 2
48:37 Pat Smith wins 3 fights in one event
49:56 UFC 2 being different/ experiences with Art Davie
53:03 Royce Gracie Vs Harold Howard towel throw In
55:22 Politics backstage about no contest between Royce Gracie vs Harold Howard
56:56 Emmanuel Yarbrough
58:50 Keith hackney vs Emmanuel Yarbrough
1:00:58 experiences with Keith Hackney
1:01:30 octagon gate breaking open
1:03:35 absence from UFC 5 announcing
1:06:15 Rich Goins shows UFC all access passes
1:07:32 issues between Bob Meyrowitz and Art Davie
1:10:37 Tank Abbott fight in crowd with Allan Goes
1:13:15 Andy Anderson experiences
1:14:06 Tank Abbott drinking problem/ interview wrap up
1:15:37 Rich Goins intro bumper for Lytes out podcast
1:16:47 outro/ closing thoughts
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"G Man" Rich Goins UFC 1 Deep Dive Ep 191
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Art Jimmerson joins us in our historic recap of UFC 1. This was Art Jimmerson’s last interview that he had ever given; we are honored to have had the opportunity to document his journey. Art Jimmerson brings us through the negotiating process all the way up to facing Royce Gracie in a match that earned him the nickname “One Glove”. Please join us in this captivating tail that has a top ten boxer in the world make his way into the octagon. Jimmerson joins us in our historic recap of UFC 1. Art Jimmerson brings us through the negotiating process all the way up to facing Royce Gracie in a match that earned him the nickname “One Glove”. Please join us in this captivating tail that has a top ten boxer in the world make his way into the octagon.
Art Jimmerson UFC 1 Deep Dive Ep 189
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Gerard Gordeau has been on our wish list to interview since the very beginning of this podcast. Gerard Gordeau does NOT disappoint in this legendary sit down Gerard Gordeau discusses issues with the Japanese Yakuza, the Dutch Mafia and what it was like fighting in the UFC 1 finals. No subject is off of the table and the research for the interview was done years prior to this interview ever taking place; this was our most difficult interview to have ever tracked down... and it lives up to the hype!
0:00 Lytes Out Intro
0:20 Joey Venti Guest Introduction
0:47 Interview Start
0:54 Current Life/Business Plugs
1:46 Early Career Path
3:59 Early Home Life
5:00 Chris Lytle Discusses Gerard Gordeau
7:27 Dirty Bob Schrijber Experiences
9:02 Getting the Call to Participate in UFC 1
10:33 Master Oyama Not Letting Gerard Gordeau to Represent Karate Style
11:27 Thoughts on First UFC Event
12:57 Seeing the Compeition for the First Time
15:15 The Infamous Rules Meeting from Gerard Gordeau's Perspectivve
16:36 Smoking During Rules Meeting
18:51 Andre Brilleman Experiences
22:30 Gerard Gordeau vs Taylor Willy
23:30 Knocking Taylor Willy's Teeth Out
24:20 Tooth stuck in Gerard Gordeau's Foot
26:09 Open Workouts/Spying Theory
28:02 Mindset After First UFC Victory
29:29 Gerard Gordeau vs Kevin Rosier
31:03 Using Elbows After Breaking Hand
32:33 Learning The Event was Fixed for Gracie to Win
34:10 Training w/ Bas Rutten
35:17 Gerard Gordeau vs Royce Gracie
36:49 Biting and Eye Gouging During the Fight
41:48 Turning Down UFC 2 Contract
43:53 Coaching Fighters for UFC 2
47:00 Steps to disrupt Gracie Family Advantage During Tournament
50:24 Training Fighters to Be the Best
52:03 Having 2 Fighters in the Same Tournament
52:36 Frank (Freek) Hamaker Withdrawing from Tournament
54:05 UFC 2 Not Favoring Gracie Family
55:37 The Ulimate Ultimate Tournament
56:48 Gerard Gordeau vs Yuki Nakai (The Eye Gouge)
58:12 Potential Problems w/ Yakuza
59:28 Yuki Nakai Losing Eye Due to Infection
1:00:34 Gerard Gordeau vs Branco Cikatic
1:01:38 Erik Paulson vs Ben Spikkers
1:03:03 Gerard Gordeau's Opinion on Manager Apy Echteld and Simon Rutz
1:04:10 Training w/ Semmy Schilt
1:04:45 New Japan Pro Wrestling Match Turning Into Real Fight
1:08:09 Starting a Riot
1:10:08 Cornering Marloes Coenan in Japan
1:12:10 Fighters Gerard Gordeau has Trained
1:16:45 How Gerard Gordeau Wants to be Remembered
1:22:17 Interview Wrap Up
1:23:21 Closing Thoughts
Gerard Gordeau UFC 1 & Japan Ep 188
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Zane Frazier career as an early pioneer of the sport is one of the more fascinating stories that you will find within the NoHolds Barred era of the sport. Zane Frazier is incredibly animated and forth coming in this wild journey and behind the scenes look.
0:00 Lytes Out Intro 0:19 Interview Start 1:30 Australian UFC Event 7:13 Promoter Randy Bable Experiences 13:29 Experience Fighting in Absolute Fighting Championships 19:37 Igor Ovechkin Tapping, But Fight Restarts 24:44 Joe Charles Experiences 30:55 Possible Mafia Interactions at Rings Holland 34:40 Rich Piana Experiences (RIP) 38:58 Early MMA Fights 48:11 2001 King of The Cage Fight 51:17 Mark Hall Experiences 55:41 Harold Howard Experiences 1:03:49 Zane Fraizer vs Aaron Brink - Joey Venti Morphs into MMA Detective 1:12:04 Being Offered Brock Lesnar 1:14:06 Shannon Ritch Experiences 1:16:53 Don Frye Experiences 1:30:43 Wrap Up
Zane Frazier Career Deep Dive
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Zane Frazier is our second installment into UFC 1 - October In this episode Zane Frazier discusses his Martial Arts background, his UFC 1 experience and beating up the following people Frank Dux, Jean Claude Van Damme, body builder Rich Piana; Zane Frazier also reflects on trying to answer Steven Seagal open challenge and trying to beat him up as well, Zane Frazier enters our "Mount Punchmore" with this incredible interview
0:00 Lytes Out Intro
0:19 Interview Intro
1:24 Learning About and Getting Invited to UFC 1
12:35 Frank Dux and Billy Blanks
21:35 When Things Went Bad w/ Frank Dux
30:39 Beating Up Frank Dux at Convention
36:36 Meeting Art Davie in Handcuffs
38:11 Frank Dux Version of the Story
40:12 Frank Dux Suing Zane Frazier
49:29 UFC 1 Coming Together
54:02 Not Knowing Who Was Fighting
57:30 The Famous "Rules Meeting" from Zane Frazier's Perspective
1:00:57 Gracie Cherry Picking Rules
1:02:47 John McCarthy Potentially Being Apart of Fix
1:08:00 Harold Howard Defeating Royce Gracie
1:10:50 Conspiracies with the Gracie's
1:15:57 Clarification on Meeting
1:18:12 Gracie's Trying to Manufacture Wins
1:24:31 Backstage Feelings Before First Fight
1:27:32 Zane Frazier vs Kevin Rosier
1:33:42 Charlie Anzalone
1:34:25 Joey Venti's Description of Charlie Anzalone
1:35:20 First Female in Corner in UFC History
1:39:29 Lions Den Initiation
1:44:20 Richard Hamilton Experiences
1:52:26 Zane Frazier vs Kendo Nagasaki
1:55:19 Erik Paulson Being Apart of the Dirty Dozen
2:03:47 Training with Joe Charles
2:10:31 Wrap Up
2:10:46 Outro
Zane Frazier UFC 1 Deep Dive Ep 186
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Ken Shamrock UFC 1 Deep Dive Ep 185 Ken Shamrock made his UFC 1 appearance 4 days after fighting in Japans Pancrase organization. Ken Shamrock allows us insight into what took place UFC 1 as well as shortly thereafter. October is UFC 1 month on the Lytes Out Podcast, the interviews that we are dropping are true history pieces that will live on forever; please like share and subscribe
0:00 Lytes Out Intro 0:19 Interview Start 0:49 Business Plugs/Promotion 4:29 Chris Lytle Joins the Show! 5:36 Early NHB Hardships 8:50 Rule Changes - Removing Ken's Shoes 11:11 UFC Rules Meeting 16:12 How Ken Learned to Train 18:33 Early Pancrase History 19:59 Art Davie Conversations Prior to UFC 1 24:26 How Ken Negotiated to have his Corner men 25:38 Referee Mysteriously "Missing" Tap Out 28:41 Relationship with Scott Bessac 33:22 Training with Jean Jacques Machado 36:10 Gym Members Fighting for Right to Compete in UFC 40:15 Pulling Out of UFC 3 Finals b/c Ken Shamrock Couldn't Fight Royce Gracie 45:26 Friction with Bob Shamrock for Pulling Out of UFC 3 47:09 Relationship with Bob Meyrowitz 51:10 Inspiration Behind Ken Shamrock's Book 54:02 1988 "Olympic Wrestling Trials" 57:40 Breaking Leon Van Dijk's Ankle 1:00:20 Confrontation w/ Mark Hall in Bathroom 1:06:18 Rickson Trying to Join the UFC 1:08:33 Interview Wrap Up 1:09:25 Closing Thoughts
Ken Shamrock UFC 1 Deep Dive
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Sean Salmon wrestled at the University of Ohio and had a meteoric rise within the sport of Mixed Martial Arts. Sean Salmon UFC career started as the Main Event and ended in a shroud of controversy. When Sean Salmon Agreed to do this interview, he explicitly told us that nothing was off the table in terms of questions.
0:00 Lytes Out Intro
0:19 Interview Start
1:07 Introduction/Plugs
1:48 Wrestling Career
9:00 Transition from Wrestling to MMA
10:31 Start of MMA Career
14:44 Dealing with Unsober Mark Coleman
19:49 Experiences with Promoter Corey Fisher
20:41 The Ultimate Fighter Tryouts
22:54 Early Training Partners
24:21 Early MMA Fights
26:15 From Buckeye MMA to Damage Inc
30:15 Mental State at this Point in Career
35:04 1st UFC Fight and Being the Main Event
46:02 Issue's with Armando Garcia
54:16 Sean Salmon vs Alan Belcher
56:04 Exploring Other Camps
59:16 Team Gurgel
1:03:16 Sean Salmon vs Jason Freeman
1:04:49 Jason Freeman relation to Charles Manson
1:08:09 Sean Salmon vs Mirko Rupponen
1:11:06 Dirty Bob Schrijber
1:14:45 Mark Cuban and HD Net
1:19:27 Guy Mezger Controversy
1:23:14 Emotions During the Controversy
1:29:19 Clarifying Blog Post About Submission from Allan Weikert
1:35:33 Bernie Profado Conversation
1:48:01 Training Tommy Rowlands for Olympic Trials
1:48:36 Experiences with Rex Holman
1:50:39 Joey Almost Gets His Ass Kicked
1:52:16 Danny Salmon
1:53:16 Interview Wrap Up
1:54:08 Closing Thoughts
Sean Salmon Career and Controversy Ep 184
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In 2025 we experienced a lot of growth and recorded some incredible history pieces
Joining is for a recap of the years events is Julio Macedo (RagdollMMA), Referee Kevin MacDonald, Brian McLaughlin & James Hergott
This year we had 55 total drops 51 Deep Dives & 2 round tables
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Kurt Holobaugh’s career had many instances were a lesser fighter would have quit along the way. Kurt Holobaugh takes us through his up hill battle in order to call himself season 31 Ultimate Fighter.
Kurt Holobaugh TUF Deep Dive Ep 183
0:00 Lytes Out Intro
0:19 Interview Start
0:38 Business Plugs/Promotion
1:05 Experiences with Media for Ultimate Fighter
1:54 Getting on UFC's Radar/Staying Relavent
6:40 Mindset When Coaches Pick Teams
7:52 Mental Pressure During First UFC Fight
20:48 Earning Respect from Coach
24:28 Gil Gilroy Promoter Experiences
26:42 First Pro Fight
28:19 Early Amateur Career Fights
30:01 Going the Distance for the First Time
31:58 Kurt Holobaugh vs JC Pennington in XFC
36:49 Relationship with Josh Weems
37:50 Kurt Holobaugh's Son, Zaden Competing
48:02 Lurt Holobaugh vs Wellington Brito
50:24 Scott Smith Being in Kurt Holobaugh's Corner
52:18 Brandon Wells as Wrestling Coach
53:24 Kurt Holobaugh vs Wesley Dunlap
55:33 Kurt Holobaugh vs Pat Healy
59:05 Competing in UFC 159
1:02:17 Getting Released from UFC
1:03:58 Meeting Wife, Breann Holobaugh
1:06:35 Kurt Holobaugh vs Eric Marriott
1:08:28 Kurt Holobaugh vs Lloyd Woodard
1:09:52 Broken Patella
1:10:59 Gaining Full Custody of Children
1:12:20 Kurt Holobaugh vs Desmond Green
1:16:43 Periods of Inactivity
1:23:00 Fighting in Russia
1:27:48 Kurt Holobaugh vs The Pink Panther
1:29:46 Fork In the Road After Defeat
1:31:09 Adressing Potentially Being Targeted by the Blackzilians
1:33:32 Defeating JZ Cavalcante
1:34:32 Victory Turning No Contest in DWCS
1:40:44 Managers Opinion on No Contest
1:41:39 7 Fight Win Streak
1:43:10 0-3 in UFC after Suspension
1:44:56 Damonte Robinson Story
1:53:07 Signing with EagleFC and Never Debuting
1:55:11 Brian Butler Relationship
1:57:28 Preston Thigpen Relationship
1:58:41 Wrap-Up
2:00:47 Upcoming Interviews
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David Isaacs is a Harvard Law graduate and was the UFC president for their first 22 events. David Isaacs give us an administrative view of all of the chaos and moving parts that has made the UFC what it is today. The subjects of Bob Meyrowitz, Campbell McLaren and the departures of both Art Davie and Buddy Albin are all discussed in this tell all episode. David Isaacs does not hold back and provided us with a never before look into the UFC's No Holds Barred Era.
0:00 Lytes Out Intro
0:19 Interview Start
0:49 Introduction to David Isaacs
1:30 Getting Involved w/ SEG
6:29 Genesis of UFC
14:09 Relationship with Pancrase
17:30 Chosing Denver for UFC 1
19:05 What Happened at UFC 1
31:12 What Happened at UFC 2
33:04 Division within UFC Management
36:05 Running out of Ambulances at UFC 2
38:43 Instructing Referee When to Stop Fights
45:13 Rickson Gracie Demanding $1,000,000 to Fight in UFC 3
48:12 UFC 3 Events
51:07 Kimo's Cross as a Prop
52:46 Ken Shamrock Pulling Out of Fight
55:15 Royce Gracie's Condition after Kimo Fight
56:05 Royce Gracie's Corner Throwing Towel at Start of Fight
58:07 Dealings with Joe Son
1:01:27 Relationship with Charlie Anzalone
1:02:51 Attempting to hold events in Japan
1:04:00 Social Consequences for starting UFC
1:07:01 Interactions with Bob Shamrock
1:12:29 Tank Abbott
1:19:13 Backstage Politics
1:21:25 Disagreements Within the Company
1:23:09 Buddy Albin Fake Promotion in Russia
1:25:25 Finding out about the Promotion
1:28:55 UFC 12 Changing from New York to Alabama During Weigh-In's
1:35:21 How They Were Able to Get a New Audience on Short Notice
1:39:11 Needing a New Match Maker
1:42:28 Making Gloves Mandatory at UFC 14
1:46:47 Potential Yakuza Involvement at UFC Japan
1:49:45 Vince Mcmahon as a Potential Investor
1:52:09 Attempting to Make Wesley Snipes vs Joe Rogan
1:56:59 Art Davie Attempting to Destroy the UFC
2:00:28 Interview Wrap Up
2:00:56 Outro/Shout-Outs
David Isaacs UFC Co Founder Ep 182
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Murilo Bustamante is a black belt under Carlson Gracie as well as a founding member of the Brazilian Top Team. Murilo Bustamante walks us through his rise to capturing the UFC 185# title as well as his separation from Carlson Gracie.
This might be our most meaningful episode in regards to capturing raw unadulterated history.
0:00 Lytes Out Intro 0:19 Interview Start 1:07 Correcting Wikipedia Information 1:25 Start of Jiu-Jitsu Journey 4:45 Georges Mehdi 6:05 Starting Boxing Training 7:42 Carlson Gracie Relationship 9:29 Chosing between Surfing and Fighting 11:07 Luta Livre vs Jiu-Jitsu Match 18:37 Describing Luta Livre vs Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Rivalry 22:51 Murilo Bustamante vs Jerry Bohlander 25:31 Fighting Tom Erikson for 40 Minutes 30:54 Pentagon Combat Riot 34:55 Relationship with Frederico Lapenda 37:22 How Murilo Bustamante Got Invited to 2nd ADCC 38:23 Murilo Bustamante vs Saulo Ribeiro 44:53 Move from Carlson Gracie to Brazilion Top Team 52:23 Clarifying Why Certian Matches Never Happened 57:49 Rio Jiu-Jitsu Club 59:45 Debuting in UFC Japan 1:02:22 Conversation with Dana White after Chuck Lidell Fight 1:05:51 Murilo Bustamante vs Dave Menne 1:08:19 Opinion on the "Fake Tap" 1:14:47 Rousimar Palhares Holding on to Submissions Too Long 1:27:51 Thoughts on Cornering Certian Matches 1:34:38 Wrap-Up 1:34:59 Closing Thoughts
Murilo Bustamante UFC Years Deep Dive Ep 181
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