MBT – An Introduction to Mentalization-Based Treatment
Discover how understanding your own mind — and the minds of others — can transform relationships, emotions, and self-awareness. This podcast series guides you through the 11 sessions of Mentalization-Based Treatment for adults, offering insight, reflection, and practical ways to strengthen your ability to mentalize.
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#15: MBT 1 on 1 Therapy > Between Old Patterns and New Boundries
Season 1 · Episode 15
Tuesday, March 31, 2026 • Duration 25:56
🎙️ Special Episode – “Between Old Patterns and New Boundaries”
Welcome to this special episode of the MBT podcast.
In the previous episode, Behind Closed Doors, you were given a rare glimpse into a one-on-one therapy session.
Today, we take you there again.
But this time… something shifts.
Not loudly.
Not dramatically.
But in a way that changes everything beneath the surface.
Because this session is not just about what is happening around the client —
it is about what is starting to happen within.
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🧠 What unfolds in this episode
When everything starts to build
Sometimes tension doesn’t come from one moment.
It builds.
A conversation that doesn’t sit right.
A body that reacts in ways you don’t fully understand.
A situation you can’t control.
And suddenly… you’re not where you thought you were.
You feel it —
but you can’t fully explain it yet.
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The invisible pressure
There is something many people will recognize here.
You try to do the right thing.
You think things through.
You take others into account.
And still… it doesn’t land that way.
And somewhere inside, a question quietly starts to grow:
Am I doing this right… or am I losing myself again?
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The moment things start to shift
There is a point in this session where something changes.
Not because the situation changes —
but because the response does.
For the first time, the client doesn’t immediately adjust.
Doesn’t fix.
Doesn’t move toward the other.
Instead… he pauses.
And stays.
And that’s where it becomes uncomfortable.
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When old feelings resurface
Because when you don’t adapt anymore,
something else shows up.
Something older.
A feeling that isn’t just about now —
but feels much deeper than the moment itself.
A feeling that says:
Do I matter here… or not?
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A different kind of choice
And slowly, something new begins to emerge.
Not as a decision.
Not as a strategy.
But as a different way of being.
A boundary that doesn’t collapse.
A moment that isn’t rushed.
A reaction that doesn’t take over.
And maybe, for the first time:
the space to stay with what is actually felt.
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And then… the outside world responds
Because change doesn’t happen in isolation.
When you shift,
the people around you feel it.
Sometimes they understand.
Sometimes they don’t.
And sometimes…
they push back.
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🌟 The thread running through it all
This episode lives in the tension between two forces:
What feels familiar.
And what is starting to change.
Between adapting…
and staying.
Between keeping the connection…
and not losing yourself in the process.
Mentalizing happens exactly here.
Not in certainty.
But in the moment where you pause —
and don’t immediately act.
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💬 Closing
What you’re about to hear is not a solution.
It’s a process.
A moment where something could go in many directions —
but doesn’t.
Because instead of reacting…
there is a pause.
And in that pause, something shifts.
Not on the outside.
But on the inside.
And sometimes, that’s where real change begins.
#14: MBT 1 on 1 Therapy > Between Adapting and Staying True to Yourself
Season 1 · Episode 14
Sunday, March 29, 2026 • Duration 23:58
🎙️ Special Episode – “Between Adapting and Staying True to Yourself”
Welcome to this special episode of the MBT podcast.
In this episode, you are once again given a unique insight into a one-on-one therapy session — a place where thoughts, feelings, and patterns become visible as they emerge in everyday life.
What happens in this session is recognizable for many people: tension that builds through work, family, relationships, and expectations. But beneath these practical situations lies something deeper — the search for staying true to yourself while the world around you asks something different of you.
Today, we listen to a conversation in which it becomes visible how old patterns, insecurity, and the need to do things right come together with a growing awareness: what do I actually need?
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🧠 What is central in this episode
Loss of control and tension
When situations do not go as expected, this can immediately trigger tension.
The feeling of losing control touches deeper layers: insecurity, perfectionism, and the need to do things right.
The pressure of expectations
In work, family, and relationships, a pattern can develop in which expectations — from yourself and from others — become heavy.
The question becomes: am I doing this well enough? And for whom am I actually doing it?
#5: Session 4 > MBT Recognizing and regulating emotions
Season 1 · Episode 5
Thursday, March 26, 2026 • Duration 30:13
🎙️ Episode 5 – Session 4: Recognizing and Regulating Emotions
Welcome back.
In the previous session, we explored what emotions are and why we have them.
Today, we take the next step: learning how to recognize emotions and deal with them in a healthy way.
Because it’s not just about feeling —
it’s about understanding and managing what you feel.
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📌 What this session is about
• Recognizing emotions in others through facial expressions and body language.
• Understanding how mirror neurons allow you to feel what others feel — sometimes without realizing it.
• Recognizing emotions in yourself through physical signals like tension, pressure, or restlessness.
• Learning what emotional regulation means: not suppressing emotions, but understanding and balancing them.
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🔎 Real-life examples
• You notice someone looking away or tensing up, and you sense something is wrong.
• You suddenly feel overwhelmed after being around someone who is upset.
• You feel intense anger or sadness and react immediately, without understanding what’s happening inside you.
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#4: Session 3 > MBT Emotions and why we have them
Season 1 · Episode 4
Tuesday, March 17, 2026 • Duration 20:22
Welcome back. In the previous session, we explored what happens when mentalizing breaks down. Today, we focus on something at the core of that process: emotions.
Because emotions are not the problem — they are signals.
📌 What this session is about
Emotions are automatic, physical responses that happen in all humans.
When you become aware of them and can name them, they turn into feelings.
Within MBT, we work with seven basic emotions: curiosity, fear, anger, desire, love, sadness, and playfulness.
Each emotion has a purpose: to protect you, guide you, or connect you with others.
🔎 Real-life examples
Your heart starts racing — but you don’t know if it’s fear, stress, or excitement.
You feel irritated, but underneath there may be sadness or disappointment.
You experience physical tension without understanding the emotion behind it.
📚 Why it matters
Emotions are never “wrong.” They give you important information about what you need.
Problems arise when:
You don’t recognize your emotions
You misinterpret them
Or your feelings and physical reactions no longer match
This can lead to confusion, conflict, or feeling disconnected from yourself.
✨ How MBT works with this
In MBT, you learn to slow down and notice what you feel.You practise:
#3: Session 2 > MBT Problems with mentalizing
Season 1 · Episode 3
Tuesday, March 17, 2026 • Duration 12:34
🎙️ Episode 3 – Session 2: Problems with Mentalizing
Welcome back. In the previous session, we explored what mentalizing is. Today, we take the next step: understanding what happens when mentalizing breaks down.
Because the truth is — everyone loses the ability to mentalize at times, especially under stress.
📌 What this session is about
Problems with mentalizing occur when you become too certain about your own thoughts or someone else’s intentions.
You may fall into black-and-white thinking, lose curiosity, or stop reflecting.
Instead of understanding, you start reacting automatically.
These moments often happen when emotions become intense and overwhelming.
🔎 Real-life examples
You assume: “They ignored me on purpose” — without checking what really happened.
You feel hurt or angry and react immediately, without thinking about other possible explanations.
You explain everything from outside factors, instead of looking at your own feelings or reactions.
📚 Why it matters
When mentalizing stops, misunderstandings increase. You may feel not seen, rejected, or confused — and others may feel the same about you.
Strong emotions can take over, leading to impulsive reactions, conflict, or withdrawal.
This is often the moment where relationships become strained.
✨ How MBT works with this
In MBT, you learn to recognize your “switch point” — the moment where you stop thinking and start reacting.
#2: Session 1 > MBT What Is Mentalizing
Season 1 · Episode 2
Friday, October 24, 2025 • Duration 12:36
🎙️ Episode 2 – Session 1: What Is Mentalizing?
Welcome to the first real session of this MBT-i series. Today we begin at the core of everything: mentalizing — the ability to understand yourself, others, and the relationships between you.
📌 What this session is about;
Mentalizing means noticing your thoughts, feelings, and behaviours, and recognizing that other people also act from their own inner worlds.
It’s about being curious, open-minded, and non-judgmental — even when emotions run high.
When you can mentalize, you gain insight, self-control, and healthier communication.
🔎 Real-life examples;
You pause before reacting in anger and ask yourself, “What might this person be feeling right now?”
You realise that someone’s silence doesn’t necessarily mean rejection — it could mean they feel anxious or unsure.
📚 Why it matters;
Mentalizing connects emotion with understanding. It helps prevent misunderstandings, keeps relationships balanced, and allows you to stay calm when things feel chaotic.
✨ How MBT works with this;
Throughout MBT you’ll practise a mentalizing attitude:
Stay curious about yourself and others.
Accept that you can never know exactly what someone else feels.
Remember that emotions influence thoughts — and vice versa.
💡 Practice from Session 1;
Have a short conversation with someone close to you. Try to find out how their day really felt for them. Then write down: 1️⃣ How you think they felt (and check if you were right).2️⃣ How it was for to ask and listen.
#1: MBT Understanding the 11 Sessions
Season 1 · Episode 1
Friday, October 24, 2025 • Duration 38:59
🎙️ Episode 1 – Understanding Mentalization: The Journey Begins
In this first episode, we open the door to the world of Mentalization-Based Treatment for Adults (MBT-i) — a therapeutic journey of eleven sessions designed to help you better understand yourself and others.
We’ll explore what mentalizing really means: the ability to notice, reflect on, and make sense of your own thoughts and feelings, and those of the people around you. Throughout the coming episodes, each session focuses on a different aspect of this process — from recognizing emotions and understanding attachment, to coping with anxiety, depression, and the patterns that shape our relationships.
This episode gives you an overview of the entire program and what you can expect from each session. It’s an invitation to slow down, to reflect, and to start seeing your inner world — and the world of others — with more curiosity and compassion.
✨ What you’ll learn in this episode:
What MBT-i is and how it works
The main themes covered in the 11 sessions
Why mentalizing is essential for emotional stability and healthy relationships
How this podcast will guide you through the process
🎧 Next episode: In Episode 2, we dive into Session 1 – “What Is Mentalizing?” — where we begin by exploring how understanding your own mind, and the minds of others, can change the way you relate, communicate, and heal.
#13: MBT 1 on 1 Therapy > Behind Closed Doors
Season 1 · Episode 13
Sunday, March 29, 2026 • Duration 35:00
🎙️ Special Episode #1 – “Behind Closed Doors”
Welcome to this special episode of the MBT podcast.
Individual therapy sessions usually remain behind closed doors. That is exactly why this episode is different. In this episode, you are given a rare insight into what happens internally during a one-on-one therapy session.
This episode reveals how old patterns, loss, grief, self-protection, and the need to care for others can all come together in a single conversation. Not as theory, but as it unfolds in real life: unexpected, raw, confusing, and deeply human.
Today, we listen to a conversation in which a current situation brings old memories and emotions back to the surface. It shows how emotions can remain stored for years behind closed doors, and how challenging it can be to create space for what you feel — without becoming overwhelmed.
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🧠 What this episode explores
When loss becomes present again
Sometimes, something in the present suddenly reconnects you with the past.
What seemed long buried or pushed away can resurface unexpectedly. Not always as an emotional outburst, but sometimes as a moment of realization: “Oh… this is still here.”
Old protective mechanisms
This episode shows how someone can learn to protect themselves by shutting down, suppressing, or distancing from their emotions.
#12: Session 11 > Depression, Attachment and Mentalizing
Season 1 · Episode 12
Sunday, March 29, 2026 • Duration 30:15
🎙️ Episode 11 – Session 11: Depression, Attachment and Mentalizing
Welcome to episode 11 of the MBT podcast.
Today, we explore a topic that is deeply human and often difficult to talk about: depression.
Not just as a diagnosis, but as an emotional experience connected to loss, attachment, and how we understand ourselves and others.
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📌 What this session is about
In this session, we look at how depression is closely linked to loss and separation.
This can be very clear and visible, like:
• losing a loved one
• the end of a relationship
• losing a job or a place where you felt you belonged
But loss can also be more subtle:
• losing a sense of identity
• feeling disconnected from others
• or feeling like you’ve lost yourself
These experiences can lead to deep feelings of sadness, loneliness, and emptiness.
According to the publications on MBT, depression can develop when a natural grief response does not fade, but instead becomes persistent and overwhelming.
#11: Session 10 > Anxiety, Attachment and Mentalizing
Season 1 · Episode 11
Sunday, March 29, 2026 • Duration 37:41
🎙️ Episode 11 – Session 10: Anxiety, Attachment and Mentalizing
Welcome back.
In the previous session, we explored how opening up in relationships can feel challenging but also healing.
Today, we focus on a powerful emotion that affects us all: anxiety.
Because anxiety is not just something to get rid of —
it’s something to understand.
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📌 What this session is about
• Understanding anxiety as a basic human emotion that helps protect you from danger.
• How anxiety triggers the fight, flight, or freeze response.
• The difference between normal anxiety and anxiety that becomes overwhelming or persistent.
• How your attachment history influences the way you deal with fear and stress.
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🔎 Real-life examples
• You avoid certain situations because they make you feel anxious.
• You feel sudden panic without knowing exactly why.
• You experience physical symptoms like a racing heart, sweating, or tension.
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📚 Why it matters
The role of the other versus yourself
An important theme in this episode is the shift in focus:
from constantly attuning to others to learning to recognize your own needs.
Where is the boundary between being involved and losing yourself?
The feeling of not mattering
When feelings are not seen or acknowledged, an old, deep feeling can be triggered:
I do not matter.
This moment is vulnerable, but also essential to recognize and reflect on.
The transformation toward self-care
Gradually, a movement toward yourself begins to emerge:
taking space, setting boundaries, and acknowledging what you need.
Not by shutting yourself off, but by staying consciously present with what you feel.
The reaction of the environment
Change within yourself often evokes something in the people around you.
When you stop adapting, it can create confusion, resistance, or insecurity in others.
This makes the process not only personal, but also relationally complex.
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🌟 The common thread
The common thread in this episode is the tension between adapting and staying true to yourself.
Long-established patterns pull you back toward what feels safe: taking others into account, placing yourself in the background.
But at the same time, there is a growing awareness that true calm and stability only arise when you also make space for yourself.
Mentalizing helps with this:
not reacting immediately, but pausing to reflect on what is happening — within yourself and within the other.
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💬 Closing
This episode shows how complex and at the same time valuable personal change is.
It is not a straight line, but a process of searching, feeling, doubting, and choosing again.
Sometimes growth is not found in big steps,
but in the moment when you say:
“This is what I feel… and that is allowed to be there.”
📚 Why it matters
If emotions are not recognized or regulated, they can become overwhelming.
You may feel stuck, confused, or driven to escape those feelings.
This can lead to destructive behaviours — not because you want to,
but because the emotion feels too intense to handle.
Understanding your emotions helps you stay in control instead of being controlled.
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✨ How MBT works with this
In MBT, you learn to:
• Pause and notice what you feel
• Put your emotions into words
• Stay within a balanced zone — not too overwhelmed, not too disconnected
You also learn that support from others plays an important role in regulating emotions.
You don’t have to do it alone.
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💡 Practice from Session 4
This week, focus on a moment where you experienced strong emotions.
• What did you feel?
• How did you respond?
• What helped you to deal with it — even a little?
Write it down and reflect on what worked for you.
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🌟 Core message
Emotions don’t need to be pushed away —
they need to be understood.
When you learn to recognize and regulate them,
you create space for clarity, control,
and healthier connections with others.
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Recognizing emotions in your body
Putting them into words
Understanding what they are trying to tell you
The goal is not to control emotions, but to understand them.
💡 Practice from Session 3
Take time this week to reflect on your emotions.
What did you feel?
Were you able to name those feelings?
Or did you mainly notice physical signals, like tension or restlessness?
Write it down and observe patterns without judgment.
🌟 Core message
Emotions are not obstacles — they are guides.
The more you learn to recognize and understand them, the more you reconnect with yourself and with others.
You begin to notice:
When your thinking becomes rigid
When your emotions take control
When curiosity disappears
The goal is not to avoid these moments, but to recognize them earlier and regain your ability to reflect.
💡 Practice from Session 2
This week, pay attention to moments when you react automatically. Choose one situation and write down: 1️⃣ What you were thinking 2️⃣ What you were feeling 3️⃣ What you did
Try to look back at the situation with curiosity instead of judgment.
🌟 Core message
Losing the ability to mentalize is part of being human.
The key is not perfection — but awareness.
The more you recognize these moments, the more space you create between feeling and reacting. And in that space, real understanding begins.
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🌟 Core message;
Mentalizing starts with curiosity. It’s not about being right — it’s about wanting to understand. By staying open, even in confusion, you begin the journey toward better self-awareness and deeper connection.
What was once necessary to cope can later become a pattern that blocks connection with yourself.
The metaphor of the doors
A central image in this episode is that of closed doors.
Doors behind which memories, grief, and unprocessed emotions are stored. The question is not only what lies behind those doors, but also:
• Do I dare to open them?
• What happens if they open?
• And how do I make sure I am not overwhelmed?
Caring for others while forgetting yourself
A familiar pattern also emerges: being strongly focused on the needs of others, while your own needs move into the background.
Where is the line between caring and losing yourself? And how do you recognize when tension is building because you are not giving yourself enough space?
Fear of loss and rejection
This episode also highlights how future loss can already be felt in the present.
The fear of losing someone — or of no longer being seen or recognized — touches deeper themes of attachment, safety, and rejection.
Mentalizing in practice
In this one-on-one session, mentalizing becomes visible in real time.
Not jumping to conclusions, not immediately solving — but pausing together to understand what is happening, what is being touched, and what is needed to stay with it.
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🌟 The common thread
The central theme of this episode is that emotions do not disappear when you push them away.
They may remain silent for a long time, but can return unexpectedly.
This episode shows that allowing space for emotion does not mean losing control.
It can mean learning, step by step, to tolerate what is inside you — without turning away from it.
Mentalizing here means daring to stay curious about your inner experience, even when there are no clear answers yet.
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💬 Closing
This special episode offers a powerful and honest insight into how therapy can help you pause and face what has long been left untouched.
Not to fix everything at once, but to learn to feel, understand, and tolerate.
Sometimes, healing does not begin with big answers —
but with the gentle opening of one door.
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🔎 How depression develops
Everyone reacts differently to loss.
Some people process it and slowly recover.
But for others, especially when there have been earlier painful experiences or unstable attachments, the impact can be much stronger.
Depression can then become a kind of automatic response.
You may start to notice patterns like:
• feeling stuck in sadness
• losing motivation or energy
• withdrawing from others
• feeling hopeless about the future
And over time, this can become your “normal.”
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🧠 Depressive thinking patterns
One of the most important parts of this session is understanding how we think when we are depressed.
These thoughts often feel like facts, but they are not.
Examples include:
• “It will never get better.”
• “Everything is my fault.”
• “I’m not good enough.”
These are called automatic negative thoughts.
They feel real — but they are often shaped by past experiences and emotional pain.
And here is the key insight from MBT:
When you are depressed, it becomes harder to mentalize.
Meaning:
You lose the ability to reflect on your thoughts and feelings with distance and curiosity.
Instead, your thoughts feel absolute and true.
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⚖️ The role of mentalizing in depression
Mentalizing helps you to:
• step back from your thoughts
• question what feels like “the truth”
• understand that feelings are temporary
• and see that there may be other perspectives
Without mentalizing, depression can trap you in a closed system:
• your thoughts confirm your feelings
• your feelings reinforce your thoughts
And the cycle continues.
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💊 Treatment and recovery
Depression can be treated.
In some cases, medication is used to reduce the intensity of emotions.
But within MBT, the focus is on something deeper:
Reconnecting with your emotions — not avoiding them.
Because even though painful emotions are difficult,
they are also the key to understanding yourself.
Therapy helps you to:
• explore your thoughts and feelings
• understand where they come from
• and slowly rebuild your ability to mentalize
This process takes time — but it creates real, lasting change.
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🔁 Why this matters
Depression is not weakness.
It is not failure.
It is often a signal —
that something important has been lost,
or was never fully there.
And understanding that…
is where recovery begins.
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🎯 Reflection
Take a moment to reflect:
• When have you experienced negative thoughts like these?
• Did they feel like facts, or could you question them?
• And what happens when you try to look at them with curiosity instead of certainty?
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🎧 Closing
This brings us to the end of all 11 sessions of the MBT program.
In the next episode, we will offer a unique and personal insight into a one-on-one therapy session, known in the Dutch version of this podcast as:
“Behind Closed Doors.”
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Anxiety itself is not dangerous —
but avoiding it can make it stronger.
When anxiety takes over,
your ability to mentalize decreases.
This can lead to:
• overreacting
• withdrawing
• or feeling out of control
Understanding anxiety helps you respond with awareness
instead of fear.
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✨ How MBT works with this
In MBT, anxiety is explored in connection with relationships.
You learn to:
• Recognize when anxiety is building
• Understand what it might be connected to
• Stay curious about your thoughts and feelings
• Seek support and reassurance from others
Sharing your anxiety helps reduce its intensity
and brings you back into connection.
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💡 Practice from Session 10
This week, try to share something about your anxiety with someone you trust.
• What are you afraid of?
• How does it feel to talk about it?
• Does sharing help you feel more supported or understood?
