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	Title	Pub. Date	Duration
	Buyer-Led M&A™ Strategy at Snowflake with Stefan WIlliams	06 Oct 2025	00:55:46
Stefan Williams - Vice President of Corporate Development and Snowflake Ventures at Snowflake Stefan Williams, Vice President of Corporate Development and Snowflake Ventures at Snowflake, leads the company's acquisition strategy, corporate venture capital, and startup accelerator programs. In this episode, Stefan takes us inside Snowflake's disciplined, culture-first approach to M&A—from building the corporate development function from scratch to executing 20+ acquisitions while maintaining breakneck organic growth. He shares hard-won lessons on integration accountability, why relationships matter more than auctions, and how to balance proactive deal-making with the realities of a fast-moving AI landscape. Things You'll Learn Start small and build M&A muscle – Why Snowflake began with sub-50 person acquisitions to prove integration capabilities before scaling to larger, more complex deals Integration accountability drives success – The critical importance of assigning DRIs (Directly Responsible Individuals) with clear timelines at 30, 60, 90, and 180 days post-close Buyer-led beats reactive – How investing time in proactive CEO relationships and strategic alignment dramatically improves deal outcomes versus responding to banker processes ___________________ The Buyer-Led M&A™ Summit is back. The virtual event built for dealmakers who want to eliminate chaos and take control from sourcing through integration. 📅 October 30, 2025 🕚 11:00 AM – 2:30 PM ET 💻 Free & Virtual Learn from leaders who’ve built scalable, repeatable strategies that keep deals on track - Register now. ____________________ Join us for the 3rd M&A Science Fair IN PERSON Get pure, off-the-record collaboration between corporate development, private equity, and integration leaders. Instead of passive listening, you’ll be sharing real frameworks, trading ideas, and testing what actually works in modern deal execution. Everything’s practitioner-led, and every topic is surfaced by the attendees themselves. October 16th — NYC 8AM-7:30PM Request an invite here: https://luma.com/khkuh6yw ____________________ Episode Chapters [00:02:30] From Banking to Building – Stefan's journey from investment banking to building corporate development teams at ServiceNow and Snowflake [00:04:30] How the "amp it up" mentality shapes every aspect of operations, including M&A strategy [00:07:00] Why high-growth companies must begin with digestible acquisitions to develop integration capabilities [00:10:00] Week One Playbook – How to build a corporate development function from scratch by interviewing product leaders and aligning on strategy [00:14:00] Managing internal relationships across product, engineering, and go-to-market to maintain strategic clarity [00:21:00] Strategic Ventures, Not Financial Bets [00:27:00] Integration DRIs and the Marriage Analogy [00:37:30] Managing Three Concurrent Deals [00:42:00] Why nearly all 20 Snowflake acquisitions involved prior relationships and how buyer-led strategy wins [00:48:30] Navigating the AI Explosion – Staying current in a landscape where companies scale from zero to $100M in years, not decades Questions, comments, concerns? Follow Kison Patel for behind-the-scenes insights on modern M&A.
	Corporate Development Strategy: Notion's M&A Approach with Hilary Shirazi	30 Sep 2025	01:02:21
Hilary Shirazi - Head of Corporate Development at Notion Hilary Shirazi, Head of Corporate Development at Notion, brings over a decade of M&A experience from LinkedIn, Pinterest, and Zendesk to discuss building corporate development strategy at high-growth tech companies. She shares her proven deal thesis methodology, the "Four T's" framework for categorizing acquisitions, and why integration without an IMO might be the better approach for agile teams. Things you will learn: The Deal Thesis Framework – How to crystallize strategy before identifying targets using Hilary's proven document template The Four T's of M&A – Talent, Tech, Traction, and Terrain categories that determine your acquisition approach and integration strategy Integration Without IMO – Why embedding integration throughout the process beats traditional handoff models for most deals ___________________ The Buyer-Led M&A™ Summit is back. The virtual event built for dealmakers who want to eliminate chaos and take control from sourcing through integration. 📅 October 30, 2025 🕚 11:00 AM – 2:30 PM ET 💻 Free & Virtual Learn from leaders who’ve built scalable, repeatable strategies that keep deals on track - Register now. ____________________ Join us for the 3rd M&A Science Fair IN PERSON Get pure, off-the-record collaboration between corporate development, private equity, and integration leaders. Instead of passive listening, you’ll be sharing real frameworks, trading ideas, and testing what actually works in modern deal execution. Everything’s practitioner-led, and every topic is surfaced by the attendees themselves. October 16th — NYC 8AM-7:30PM Request an invite here: https://luma.com/khkuh6yw ____________________ Episode Chapters [00:02:00] Hilary's career evolution and why in-house M&A beats advisory work [00:05:00] Building M&A Best Practices – Why starting at a mature organization teaches critical fundamentals before going solo [00:08:30] Getting to know executives' M&A fears and biases before sourcing deals [00:11:00] The Deal Thesis Methodology – Creating strategy documents before naming targets to avoid "solution shopping" [00:16:00] Deal Sponsor Selection [00:20:00] Front-Loading Vision Alignment [00:30:00] The Four T's Framework – Categorizing acquisitions as Talent, Tech, Traction, or Terrain deals [00:35:00] Integration Without IMO – Why Corp Dev should own integration instead of handing off to separate teams [00:42:00] Using Notion for M&A [00:51:00] AI in Corporate Development Questions, comments, concerns? Follow Kison Patel for behind-the-scenes insights on modern M&A.
	M&A in Healthcare with John Palusci	21 Jul 2025	00:56:46
John Palusci, Former Vice President of Transformation and Strategic Finance, BAYADA In this episode of M&A Science, John Palusci, former Vice President of Transformation and Strategic Finance at BAYADA, joins Kison Patel to discuss how to build a repeatable, Buyer-Led M&A™ engine within a nonprofit structure. John walks through his journey from IT to finance to corporate development, detailing how he helped scale BAYADA’s deal strategy with a focus on long-term value, integration-led diligence, and mission alignment. He shares real lessons from joint ventures, cashless acquisitions, and how to avoid surprises in highly regulated industries like healthcare. Things you will learn: How to structure healthcare M&A for long-term mission alignment What a “conceptual pro forma” is and why it accelerates early deal screening How to manage integration risk in people-first, regulation-heavy industries ________________________ Sponsored by DealRoom—where M&A chaos meets its match. Your M&A process can so much faster... DealRoom helps corporate development teams take control—streamlining diligence, syncing integration, and eliminating the back-and-forth. 👉 Learn how you can run a repeatable, buyer-led process _______________ Episode Chapters [00:01:00] John’s unconventional path from IT to M&A leadership [00:05:00] Running joint ventures with hospital systems [00:07:30] Third-party valuation in nonprofit deals [00:10:00] How BAYADA sourced and filtered deals [00:13:00] Key reasons to kill a healthcare deal early [00:16:00] How BAYADA transitioned from for-profit to nonprofit [00:22:30] Standardizing diligence with a conceptual pro forma [00:27:00] Managing talent transitions in home healthcare [00:34:00] Cashless deals: how they work and when they’re possible [00:38:30] Integration-led diligence and DealRoom’s role in execution Questions, comments, concerns? Follow Kison Patel for behind-the-scenes insights on modern M&A.
	How Business Cycles Affect M&A Valuation	04 Mar 2024	00:54:21
Allan Marks, Global Project, Energy & Infrastructure Partner at Milbank M&A valuation isn’t just about looking at the numbers. There are a lot of different factors that affect and contribute to the volatility of the M&A market. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Allan Marks, Global Project, Energy & Infrastructure Partner at Milbank, discusses how business cycles affect M&A valuation. Things you will learn: • What is a business cycle • What is a credit cycle • How business cycle impact M&A valuation • Common Mistake during M&A valuation • Importance of culture in M&A This episode is sponsored by the DealRoom Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at dealroom.net. Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 11:00 What is a business cycle 12:41 What is a credit cycle 16:59 Cycle’s impact on energy sector 19:09 How business cycle impact M&A valuation 22:36 Industries most affected by the cycles 26:43 M&A valuation for first-timers 31:47 Importance of culture in M&A 34:23 When to pull of a deal 37:37 Example of failed deals 41:59 Example of good deals 45:43 Common Mistake during M&A valuation 46:43 M&A function maturity 48:02 Other early M&A considerations 49:15 Craziest thing in M&A
	Validating the Acquisition Plan	28 Feb 2024	00:47:20
Adam Harris, CEO of Cloudbeds When executing M&A, having a structured approach to validating the acquisition plan is crucial. The worst thing any acquirer can do is to buy a business that doesn’t bring value to the parent company. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Adam Harris, CEO of Cloudbeds, shares the meticulous 6-step process his company uses to validate their acquisition plan. Things you will learn: • Surveying Customers • Industry Trend Analysis • Partner vs Build Analysis • Formulating the strategic rationale • In-depth Company Analysis and Product Demos • Drafting a detailed memo This episode is sponsored by the DealRoom Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at https://www.dealroom.net Episode Bookmarks 00:00 Intro 08:45 Approaching M&A 18:20 Surveying Customers 23:47 Industry Trend Analysis 28:13 Partner vs Build Analysis 34:12 Formulating the strategic rationale 36:50 In-depth Company Analysis and Product Demos 41:18 Drafting a detailed memo 44:15 Pitching M&A to the board 44:54 Craziest thing in M&A
	Mastering M&A Integration	26 Feb 2024	00:49:55
Seema Nimmagadda, Head of M&A Integration for North America at Woven by Toyota. A lot of times, M&A integration is considered only after closing the deal. It is often treated as an afterthought, and this approach is where many deal failures stem from. If we want to improve our M&A process and get better results from deals, we have to start updating our practices to the most efficient way of doing things. In this episode of the M&A Science podcast, Seema Nimmagadda, Head of M&A Integration for North America at Woven by Toyota, discusses how to master M&A integration. Things you will learn in this episode: • The Ideal Integration Process • M&A Integration planning pre-LOI • Setting up an early version of the IMO • Detailing the M&A Integration Strategy • Aligning deal goals with integration strategy This episode is sponsored by FirmRoom. FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to https://firmroom.com Episode Bookmarks 00:00 Intro 04:00 Toyota’s Woven Business Unit 05:00 The Ideal Integration Process 06:53 The Importance of Integration Capabilities 08:52 Integration planning pre-LOI 11:50 Ensuring Adequate Resources and Capabilities during M&A Integrations 13:27 Avoiding early pitfalls for integration 14:40 Key integration milestones from LOI to Close 18:53 Aligning the IMO and Corporate Development 21:49 Adapting mature M&A teams to change 23:28 Setting up an early version of the IMO 25:04 Key people in forming an early IMO 26:16 Detailing the Integration Strategy 29:09 Balancing team autonomy in integration planning 31:56 Maintaining collaboration and progress in integration 34:24 Managing cross-functional dependencies 35:16 Tech stack diversity 36:41 M&A execution checkpoints 38:04 Information gathering challenges pre-close 39:08 Managing vendor dependencies and ensuring transparency 40:12 Balancing functional plans with the master integration strategy 42:04 Securing stakeholder buy-in 43:04 Risks of overlooking integration 44:03 Aligning deal goals with integration strategy 44:36 Identifying when an M&A integration is complete 46:25 Best practices for smooth post-close integrations 46:59 Craziest thing in M&A
	Using M&A Best Practices to Get Better Deals	21 Feb 2024	00:50:34
Brent Baxter, Chief Executive Officer at Association for Corporate Growth, and Jeff Giles, VP, Corporate Development at Core & Main (NYSE: CNM) In a highly competitive market, speed is crucial for companies wanting to do M&A. Especially with all the economic and market changes that’s happening, professionals must use M&A best practices to get better deals. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Brent Baxter, Chief Executive Officer at Association for Corporate Growth, and Jeff Giles, VP, Corporate Development at Core & Main, share their strategies and experiences when executing successful M&A. Things you will learn: • Target outreach • Best practices when building relationships • Challenges of working with private sellers • Executing agile and efficient Diligence • Role of technology in the M&A process This episode is sponsored by the DealRoom. Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at https://dealroom.net Episode Bookmarks 00:00 Intro 07:12 Getting deals faster 10:35 Target outreach 15:54 Best practices when building relationships 19:47 How to best optimize ACG 22:46 M&A challenges 25:20 Challenges of working with private sellers 29:39 Executing agile and efficient Diligence 34:53 Executing deals during COVID 39:59 Role of technology in the M&A process 42:06 Role of technology in the future 46:47 Craziest thing in M&A
	Connecting Diligence and Integration in M&A	19 Feb 2024	01:03:50
Amy M. Weck, VP, M&A and integrations at The Liberty Company Insurance Brokers, LLC It's common to see due diligence and integration as separate stages, but combining them can make the M&A process much smoother and more effective. But how exactly can we weave these two critical phases together effectively? In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Amy M. Weck, VP, M&A and integrations at The Liberty Company Insurance Brokers, offers practical strategies to align integration and diligence for optimal outcomes. Things you will learn in the episode: • Merging separate integration departments • How to connect diligence and integration • Fostering a ‘One Team’ Mindset • Maintaining Team Rhythm in High-Volume Acquisitions This episode is sponsored by FirmRoom. FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to https://firmroom.com. Episode Bookmarks 00:00 Intro 04:26 Getting into M&A 06:12 Evolving into integration 07:55 Transitioning from deal team to integration team 09:26 Pre-LOI considerations in M&A 10:40 Merging Corp Dev and Integration Team 13:26 The impact of mindset during transition 15:26 Connecting the two functions 18:42 Keeping teams and workflows aligned 22:14 Biggest challenge in the transition 24:05 The challenge of change management 26:11 Managing new hires in key roles 27:29 Key advice for managing the end-to-end M&A process 34:37 Optimizing the M&A function for a roll-up 36:21 Practical Tips for Learning from Past Due Diligence 38:16 Maintaining Team Rhythm in High-Volume Acquisitions 40:05 Key Strategies to Avoid Failing in Your Integrations 42:02 Key Questions to Ask Before the LOI 43:17 Evaluating Cultural Fit and Red Flags 48:15 Ideal candidate for an M&A role 59:44 Advice to first-time M&A practitioners 1:01:02 Craziest thing in M&A
	How to Bridge Valuation Gaps in M&A	14 Feb 2024	00:55:16
John Blair, Partner M&A Attorney at K&L Gates In M&A, it’s very common for buyers and sellers to disagree on the value of the business. If both parties cannot agree on the price, the deal could fall apart. However there are certain strategies and tools that both parties can use to compromise and be happy during closing. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, John Blair, Partner M&A Attorney at K&L Gates, shares best practices on how to bridge valuation gaps in M&A. Things you will learn in this episode: •Bridging gaps in M&A Valuation •Earnouts •Seller Financing •Equity structure •Market’s impact on Bridging M&A Valuation Gaps Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at https://dealroom.net Episode Bookmarks 00:00 Intro 04:13 When to get involved in the M&A Process 07:50 Negotiations during LOI 09:42 Bridging gaps in M&A Valuation 11:09 Using Holdbacks to Bridge M&A Valuation Gaps 13:20 Seller Financing 15:00 Earnouts 16:43 Earnouts on Intellectual Property 18:45 Key Variables in an Earnout 23:14 Earnout payment structure 25:53 Making Earnouts Successful 29:08 Structures of Seller Financing 36:24 Traditional terms of seller financing 38:20 Equity structure 41:04 Stock options 43:52 Minimizing the cash upfront during a sale 46:34 Contents of Letter of Intent 49:14 Advice for first timers 50:01 Craziest Thing in M&A
	Transforming Existing Staff into M&A Experts	12 Feb 2024	01:02:07
In the dynamic world of mergers and acquisitions (M&A), creating an effective team is crucial for success. This process can be complex and demanding, but also immensely rewarding. After all, having an internal team means having the capability of acquiring companies in the future, rather than treating M&A as a one-time event. In this episode, Birgitta Elfversson, Non-Executive Director at Netlight, shares her experience in transforming existing staff into M&A experts. Things you will learn from this episode: • Shaping the M&A strategy • Building an M&A team • Scaling the M&A Team • Recruiting competent people • Managing burnout Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at https://dealroom.net Episode Bookmarks 00:00 Intro 10:54 Shaping the M&A strategy 12:46 Key elements of the strategy 14:58 Strategy approval 16:10 Challenges on the first acquisition 18:30 Building an M&A team 22:05 Scaling the M&A Team 25:10 Recruiting competent people 26:44 M&A Aptitude test 32:48 Working with consulting firms during M&A 37:17 Setting the external team up for success 39:08 M&A Team structure 39:48 Managing burnout 43:18 Programmatic M&A 49:09 Start up doing M&A 51:47 Integration execution 53:19 Smart collaboration in the future 55:51 Setting integration up for success 58:20 Craziest thing in M&A
	Negotiating Cross Border M&A	07 Feb 2024	00:33:44
Jake Lin, Head of Corporate Development at Xendit Navigating cross border M&A is one of the most challenging tasks for deal makers. There are a lot of intricacies involved that are unique to each country, and must be handled delicately. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Jake Lin, Head of Corporate Development at Xendit, shares his best practices when executing cross border M&A, particularly in South East Asia. Things you will learn: Biggest challenge in Cross Border M&A Language barrier during Cross border M&A Managing Cultural Differences during negotiations Cross border M&A best practices Integration approach to cross border M&A This episode is sponsored by the DealRoom. Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at https://dealroom.net. Episode Bookmarks 00:00 Intro 05:44 Biggest challenge in Cross Border M&A 08:18 Cross Border M&A without Bankers 09:04 Working with Local Bankers 09:55 Language barrier during Cross border M&A 12:05 Managing Cultural Differences during negotiations 16:01 Managing the Speed of Cross border M&A 17:20 Cultural Differences almost killing the deal 18:48 Countries easiest to work with 21:06 Cross border M&A best practices 22:32 Strategic tips when dealing with Cross border M&A 23:49 Integration approach to cross border M&A 25:37 Negotiating Payment terms 28:59 Computation for stock payments 30:06 Advice for first-timers 30:29 Craziest thing in M&A
	Achieving Business Growth Through Strategic M&A	05 Feb 2024	00:45:58
Yoav Zeif, CEO at Stratasys In today’s competitive global market, organizations need to leverage every tool in their arsenal to stay ahead of the curve. One of the best ways to do this is strategic M&A. With the right approach, M&A can drive significant growth, unlock fresh opportunities, and expedite the achievement of strategic business goals. In this article, Yoav Zeif, CEO at Stratasys, shares his experience on achieving business growth through strategic M&A. Things you will learn in this episode: •The Start of their M&A Journey •Strategic M&A framework •Evolution of Strategy •Working with the corporate development team •How to ensure positive business outcomes during integration This episode is sponsored by FirmRoom, the fastest virtual data room used to get deals done. Leave the pay-per-page world behind by going to https://firmroom.com/ Episode Bookmarks 00:00 Intro 07:04 Start of M&A Journey 11:56 M&A strategy framework 18:58 Real-life acquisition scenario 20:20 Evolution of Strategy 23:59 Working with the corporate development team 26:29 Corporate development teams pitching deals 30:22 How to ensure positive business outcomes during integration 31:57 Big lessons learned 39:18 Retaining key people 40:26 Other lessons 42:42 Craziest Thing in M&A This episode is sponsored by FirmRoom, the fastest virtual data room used to get deals done. Leave the pay-per-page world behind by going to https://firmroom.com/
	The Challenges of Sell-Side M&A	31 Jan 2024	00:56:18
Russ Heddleston, Co-founder & former CEO, DocSend Every owner loves their business. This makes selling their company even harder than it already is. But aside from the emotional turmoil that founders go through every exit, there are also a lot of intricacies included in the process. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Russ Heddleston, Co-founder & former CEO of DocSend, discusses the challenges of sell-side M&A. Things you will also learn in this episode: Considerations in Potentially Selling a Startup Challenges of sell-side M&A Key Factors for a Successful Exit How to manage diligence in sell-side M&A Episode Bookmarks 00:00 Intro 04:10 Starting DocSend 06:08 Identifying the Inflection Point to sell 09:01 Selling a Startup 10:46 Considerations in Potentially Selling a Startup 14:28 Best Time for an Exit 16:00 Balancing Stakeholder Interests in an Acquisition 17:50 Relationship Management in an Acquisition 19:46 How Relationships Influence Negotiations 20:41 Relationships with Bankers 23:14 Reaching out to DropBox 26:16 Key Factors for a Successful Exit 28:04 Impact of Market Conditions on M&A 28:45 The Unknowns of Selling a Business 30:53 Post-Acquisition Challenges and Unknowns 32:34 Enhancing Preparation for Post-Close Integration 34:05 Tips for Buyers for Smoother Integration 35:18 Challenges of Sell-side M&A 37:15 Efficiently Managing Diligence 38:46 People involved from pre-LOI to Close 41:36 Post-Acquisition Team Dynamics 43:01 Evaluating Alternatives to Selling 48:28 Fundraising Strategies to Minimize Dilution 49:44 Advice for Acquirers Seeking Successful Acquisitions 51:29 Effective Strategies for Corporate Leaders to Engage with Founders 53:14 Craziest thing in M&A This episode is sponsored by FirmRoom, the fastest virtual data room used to get deals done. Leave the pay-per-page world behind by going to https://firmroom.com/
	The Secrets to Sourcing Proprietary Deals in Private Equity with Ryan Gable	17 Jul 2025	01:02:28
Ryan Gable, Managing Partner, BW Forsyth Partners Ryan discusses how his team uses a hybrid private equity model backed by Barry-Wehmiller to execute people-first, long-term acquisitions. With over 55 deals and zero exits, Forsyth has developed a sourcing and integration playbook that challenges traditional PE norms, focusing instead on trust, cultural alignment, and multi-decade value creation. Ryan breaks down how to build relationships that convert to proprietary deal flow, structure rollover equity with flexibility, and align seller incentives for lasting outcomes. Things you will learn: How to source proprietary deals by building trust with founders and prioritizing cultural fit Why Forsyth avoids traditional PE norms like over-leveraging and fixed exit timelines How they structure flexible equity rollovers and provide liquidity without needing to sell Episode Chapters: [00:02:00] From Investment Banking to Building Forsyth with Barry-Wehmiller [00:07:00] Why Barry-Wehmiller Created a New Investment Arm Instead of Scaling Internally [00:10:00] The Hybrid Equity Model: Strategic Backing + PE Agility [00:14:30] Rollover Equity and How Forsyth Structures Flexible Liquidity [00:23:30] From Auction Fatigue to Sourcing Proprietary Deals [00:26:00] How Forsyth Builds Trust With Sellers (And Wins Deals Off-Market) [00:31:00] Why Founders Should Think About Selling Before They’re Ready to Retire [00:41:00] Structuring Earnouts that Sellers Actually Want to Hit [00:49:00] The “Less is More” Approach to Post-Close Integration [00:56:00] The Future of M&A: Return Expectations, Capital Saturation, and Deal Discipline Questions, comments, concerns? Follow Kison Patel for behind-the-scenes insights on modern M&A
	Pros and Cons for a Growth Company to Take PE Capital	29 Jan 2024	01:24:51
Jason Mironov, Managing Director at TA Associates Partnering with PE firms is a great way to exponentially grow a business and reach new heights. However, there are considerations that must be taken into account, before taking PE capital. Fully understanding them will increase chances of success, in the attempt to unlock the full potential of the business. In this episode of the M&A Science podcast, Jason Mironov, Managing Director at TA Associates, discusses the pros and cons of taking PE capital. Episode Bookmarks 00:00 Intro 05:29 The Lack of Operating Experience 07:03 Pros of taking money from a private equity firm 11:01 Other factors to take money from PE firms 12:49 Cons of taking money from private equity 17:16 Focusing on IRR 22:10 Culture of focusing on numbers 26:54 Working with Unhappy CEO 30:06 Board control 35:33 Expectation for the Board Structure 38:30 Dilution for founders 42:53 How to build and preserve wealth 47:20 Approach on partnership 51:03 Handling Inbound Contacts 56:51 Creating value before partnership starts 01:03:15 Working with the founder 01:05:38 Pushing M&A to portcos 01:08:51 Founder Exit 01:16:01 Timeline of investment 01:20:26 Craziest thing in M&A This episode is sponsored by DealRoom. Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net.
	Selling a Small Business Unit	24 Jan 2024	00:53:03
Michael Frankel, Founder and Managing Partner of Trajectory Capital When times are good, big companies tend to ignore their smaller business units, as they operate smoothly on their own. It is only when the economy gets tough that these little businesses get more attention, and often seen as off-strategy or a distraction. That's when the company's leaders decide it's time to sell them, which is not ideal, as the business is no longer in their prime, making it harder to sell. In this episode of M&A Science podcast, Michael Frankel, Founder and Managing Partner of Trajectory Capital, joins us to share his best practices of selling a small business unit. Episode Bookmarks 00:00 Intro 03:35 The decision to sell a business 05:01 Reasons to sell the business 06:43 Steps in selling a small business unit 09:59 Finding buyers 11:53 Avoid using bankers 13:30 Pitching the deal 14:50 Avoiding non-serious buyers 16:42 Important factors other than price 23:01 Real life example 27:54 Valuation gap 30:29 Evaluating the business 34:45 Hardest part of selling a small business unit 37:03 Advice for first time buyers 41:48 Proactively approaching a seller 47:25 Earnouts on small deals 48:44 Craziest Thing in M&A This episode is sponsored by FirmRoom, the fastest virtual data room used to get deals done. Leave the pay-per-page world behind by going to https://firmroom.com/
	How to Create a Positive Exit Experience in M&A	22 Jan 2024	00:53:32
Swapnil Shinde, CEO at Zeni Selling your business is never easy. Aside from the emotional stress that it provides, it can also be detrimental to the business if it's sold to the wrong company. Oftentimes, during the process, it can also serve as a massive distraction to the operations, harming the business in the process. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we will discuss how to create a positive exit experience in M&A with Swapnil Shinde, CEO at Zeni. Things you will learn: • Reasons for the first exit • Reacting vs Proactive Exits • Hardest part of selling a business • Role of sellers in Integration Planning • Do’s and Don'ts of Buying a company Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 06:31 Reasons for the first exit 09:19 Venture Exit 12:19 Build to sell 14:03 Reacting vs Proactive Exits 16:28 Using Bankers during Exits 19:09 Hardest part of selling a business 21:30 Managing Diligence 24:28 Lessons Learned on Diligence 28:03 Keeping and building relationships 29:29 Role of sellers in Integration Planning 32:29 Reasons why Integration fails 34:49 Worst exit experience 36:31 Making integration successful 38:25 Do’s and Don'ts of Buying a company 39:41 Identifying Cultural Fit This episode is sponsored by our products DealRoom and FirmRoom. Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at https://www.dealroom.net. FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to https://www.firmroom.com
	Realizing Revenue Synergies in M&A	15 Jan 2024	00:51:28
Chris Von Bogdandy, Global Lead M&A Solutions at Slalom Revenue synergies are why you’re doing the deal in the first place. But unlike cost synergies that happen instantly, revenue synergies are more difficult to achieve and often go unrealized. One of the biggest problems in M&A is that when a company pursues a deal, different departments have varying perspectives on what's essential. So how do you maintain the deal thesis as a central focus? In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Chris Von Bogdandy, Global Lead M&A Solutions at Slalom, discusses his framework for realizing revenue synergies in M&A. Things you will learn: •Importance of Revenue Synergies •Correlation between M&A strategy and Revenue Synergies •Understanding Customer Journey •Planning for Revenue Synergies Pre-LOI •Agile M&A Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 06:17 Importance of Revenue Synergies 09:58 Correlation between M&A strategy and Revenue Synergies 16:42 Timeline of Revenue Synergies 18:49 Realistic Revenue Synergies 21:14 Understanding Customer Journey 24:44 Planning for Revenue Synergies Pre-LOI 27:38 Capturing Revenue Synergies Post-LOI 31:04 Executing the Plan 34:21 Cross-Functional Work Streams 36:29 New product introduction process 40:15 Agile M&A 43:31 Disbanding team and workstreams 46:57 Top three principles to success 48:48 Advice for next generation of young leaders in M&A This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit https://www.mascience.com/academy. Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at https://www.dealroom.net . FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to https://www.firmroom.com
	Focusing on ESG in M&A	08 Jan 2024	00:48:55
Casey Nault, Senior Vice President, General Counsel and Chief ESG Officer at Coeur Mining, Inc. (NYSE: CDE) ESG in M&A is very real. And while it is a fairly new term, it represents a range of critical issues and priorities that companies have long considered. In many ways, ESG has always been important and is essential for risk management and maintaining company value, even for for-profit organizations. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we will discuss how to focus on ESG in M&A, featuring Casey Nault, SVP, General Counsel, and Chief ESG Officer at Coeur Mining, Inc. Things you will learn: •Importance of ESG in M&A •Balancing ESG and profit •ESG diligence •Red flags during ESG diligence •ESG on cross-border deals ____________________________________________________________________________ This episode is sponsored by FirmRoom, the fastest virtual data room used to get deals done. Leave the pay-per-page world behind by going to www.firmroom.com Episode Bookmarks 00:00 Intro 07:31 M&A in the Mining Industry 09:26 Valuation and Deal Structures in the Mining Industry 13:51 Foreign Corrupt Practices Act 15:57 Importance of ESG 20:13 Disaggregating ESG 21:49 Sustainability in today's market 24:04 Balancing ESG and profit 26:52 ESG considerations during M&A 30:58 Evolution of ESG approach 32:41 ESG diligence 33:35 Red flags during ESG diligence 35:31 Deal Stoppers 36:36 Designated person sustainability 37:17 Diligence Execution during M&A 39:19 ESG on cross-border deals 40:55 Negotiations on cross border deals 42:47 Advice for practitioners 43:18 Craziest thing in M&A
	How Not to Bomb Your First M&A Deal	01 Jan 2024	00:45:14
Brock Blake, Co-Founder and CEO at Lendio M&A is a never-ending web of complexities and challenges. While the potential for growth and transformation is promising, the chances of failure are extremely high. To increase chances of success, acquirers must learn how to be adaptable and work with the target company for alignment. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Brock Blake, Co-Founder and CEO of Lendio, shares their approach on how not to bomb your first M&A deal. You will learn: • How to drive your first deal • Understanding the cultural aspect of M&A • Strategizing acquisitions • Validating assumptions before acquisition commitment • Budget allocation for an earnout ____________________________________________________________________________ This episode is sponsored by our products DealRoom and FirmRoom Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at dealroom.net. FirmRoom is the fastest virtual data room used to get deals done. Leave the pay-per-page world behind by going to firmroom.com Episode Bookmarks 00:00 Intro 06:02 Getting into M&A 07:14 First deals and their drivers 10:43 Second Acquisition 14:49 Third Acquisition 18:43 Understanding the cultural aspect 25:17 The new deal approach 29:10 Strategizing acquisitions 32:07 Validating assumptions before acquisition commitment 38:14 Budget allocation for an earnout 41:37 Craziest thing in M&A
	The Basics of M&A Integration Execution	25 Dec 2023	01:13:48
Aaron Whiting, Chief of Staff at Crownpeak Value creation in any acquisition relies heavily on how well the M&A integration goes. By focusing on integration, buyers can increase their chances of success in obtaining and realizing their intended synergies. But how well can it go if the company’s integration lead is a first-timer? In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Learn the basics of M&A integration execution, with Aaron Whiting, Chief of Staff at Crownpeak. You will learn: How to coach a first-time integration leader Getting ready for day one Kickoff meeting strategies Challenges during integration Setting alignment for kickoff meetings ____________________________________________________________________________ This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit www.mascience.com/academy. Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net. FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to www.firmroom.com Episode Bookmark 00:00 Intro 05:09 Coaching an integration lead 06:33 Involving the Integration Lead 12:42 Integration on Day one 17:49 Getting ready for Day one 22:31 M&A teams to pull in for integration 25:41 Kickoff meeting strategies 31:12 Maintaining regular cadence for good progress 35:53 Umbrella track 37:47 How to track integration activities 42:38 Challenges during integration 47:55 Mechanical things that could go wrong during integration 52:59 Setting alignment for kickoff meetings 56:26 What success looks like through stories 01:01:50 How to know when the integration is complete 01:03:42 Advice for first timers 01:07:48 Craziest thing in M&A
	ChatGPT Interview: AI's Impact on M&A	20 Dec 2023	00:47:15
ChatGPT Voice, powered by OpenAI. This past year, AI has revolutionized the way we do things, and ChatGPT has been a big part of that. Created by OpenAI, ChatGPT can understand and use language like a human, making it extremely useful in a lot of different areas. And now, we can actually talk to it. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we are introducing our first-ever ChatGPT interview. We are going to learn its insights on AI’s impact on the world of M&A. You will learn more about: AI’s role in deal sourcing Streamlining due diligence using AI Future of M&A Limitations of AI ChatGPT’s advice on integrating AI into M&A ____________________________________________________________________________ This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit www.mascience.com/academy. Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net. FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to www.firmroom.com Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 03:06 Revolutionizing M&A with AI 03:53 AI’s role in Deal sourcing 08:08 AI’s role in deal valuation process 12:41 Limitations of ChatGPT 14:05 Streamlining due diligence 18:00 AI’s impact on M&A integration 22:10 Case Study: Daimler Chrysler merger 25:15 Case Study: Amazon acquiring Whole Foods 28:14 Future of M&A 30:23 DealRoom 32:40 How to incorporate AI into DealRoom 35:57 Positive business outcomes using DealRoom 37:41 Ethical Considerations Using AI 39:28 Limitations of AI 41:04 Advice on integrating AI into M&A 43:10 Craziest thing in M&A
	Automation in M&A	18 Dec 2023	00:44:25
Dr. Karl-Michael Popp, Senior Director, Corporate Development at SAP (FRA: SAP) In today's digital era, the pervasive influence of technology is felt in every facet of business, and Mergers and Acquisitions (M&A) are no different. The arrival of innovation and automation will soon make their way to the industry, streamlining processes that could bolster productivity and facilitate smoother post-merger integration. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Dr. Karl Michael Popp, Senior Director, Corporate Development at SAP, discusses in detail automation in M&A. Things you will learn: Measuring Strategy during automation Strategic Fit Analysis Identifying Targets Quantifying culture in M&A Impact of new emerging technologies in M&A ____________________________________________________________________________ This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit www.mascience.com/academy. Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net. FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to www.firmroom.com Episode Bookmarks 00:00 Intro 07:10 Measuring Strategy 10:00 Structuring Strategies 13:53 Quantifying Metadata 16:24 Breaking it down into details to complete the strategy 18:49 Strategic Fit Analysis 20:06 Identifying Targets 22:40 Cascading of Strategy 25:33 Changing the strategy 27:11 Learning from the target company 31:18 Quantifying culture in M&A 32:47 Impact of new emerging technologies in M&A 34:50 Automation in M&A 39:27 The late evolution of M&A 40:51 Craziest thing in M&A
	Executing Smaller Deals and Negotiating Key Legal Provisions	11 Dec 2023	00:48:09
Anthony Krueger, Associate at Morrison & Foerster LLP M&A comes in varying sizes. However, there’s a common misconception that smaller deals are easier to execute than larger ones. The truth is, that smaller deals come with their own unique set of challenges that could possibly make them even harder to do. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Anthony Krueger, Associate at Morrison & Foerster LLP, debunks this myth and discusses how to execute smaller deals and negotiate key legal provisions. You will learn: •The complexities of smaller deals •Executing earnouts •Reps and warranties insurance for smaller deals •Working capital adjustments and its effect on smaller deals ____________________________________________________________________________ This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy. If you’re looking to improve your in-house training, we have corporate training plans provided. Give your team members access to the best-in-class courses, templates, and networking opportunities in the industry. It’s also a great way to show your support for M&A Science. If you’re interested in learning more about individual or team plans, visit this page. Episode Bookmarks 00:00 Intro 04:36 Smaller deals vs bigger deals 06:35 Complexities of smaller deals 06:52 Other layers of complexities 10:10 Earnouts 18:03 Reps and warranties 24:08 Fundamental vs General Reps and Warranties 25:35 Indemnities 28:40 Disclosure schedules 32:34 Caps and Baskets 35:52 Carve-out 36:44 Working capital adjustments 40:47 Deferred revenue 42:01 Accrued bonuses and vacations 44:12 Advice to those doing small deals 45:12 Craziest thing in M&A
	Why Pendo Buys Startups (And It’s Not for Revenue) with Todd Olson	14 Jul 2025	01:02:31
Todd Olson, CEO and Co-founder, Pendo From buying startups to speed up roadmap execution to preserving founder autonomy post-close, Todd breaks down the real levers behind successful acquisitions. This episode dives into how Pendo thinks about M&A without a corporate development team, why it rarely buys for revenue, and how Todd’s team avoids common post-close integration mistakes by keeping culture, product, and people at the center. Things you will learn: Why speed and product alignment—not revenue—drive most of Pendo’s acquisitions The cost of delaying integration and how Todd learned to fix it How to retain founder energy post-acquisition without over-relying on cash ________________________ Sponsored by DealRoom—where M&A chaos meets its match. Your M&A process can so much faster... DealRoom helps corporate development teams take control—streamlining diligence, syncing integration, and eliminating the back-and-forth. 👉 Learn how you can run a repeatable, buyer-led process _______________ Episode Chapters [00:04:30] – Taking a buyer-led approach from day one [00:05:30] – When is the right time to do M&A as a startup? [00:07:00] – The real reason behind Pendo’s first acquisition (spoiler: mobile gap) [00:10:30] – How the team visit to Tel Aviv sealed the deal [00:15:00] – Why preserving a legacy tech stack was a painful mistake [00:19:30] – Walking away from a $1M customer (and why it was worth it) [00:23:00] – Choosing smaller, simpler teams over “obvious” targets [00:27:30] – Why AI startups are attractive—but only with the right integration mindset [00:33:00] – Deal structures that actually retain entrepreneurs [00:50:00] – Post-close surprises, real value creation, and the “pink wash” trap Questions, comments, concerns? Follow Kison Patel for behind-the-scenes insights on modern M&A.
	The Intricacies of M&A from Start to Finish	04 Dec 2023	01:04:54
Rajive Dhar, VP, Head of Corporate Development at NetApp (NASDAQ: NTAP) For first-time acquirers, M&A can be challenging, as it comes with strenuous processes with many complexities that can turn the dream into a nightmare. However, with proper guidance, acquirers can have a smooth transaction and an amicable negotiation. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast. We discuss the intricacies of M&A from start to finish with Rajive Dhar, VP, Head of Corporate Development at NetApp, to help us navigate our first deal. ____________________________________________________________________________ This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit www.mascience.com/academy. Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to www.firmroom.com Episode Bookmarks 00:00 Intro 05:58 Different types of M&A 09:49 Corporate Strategy for M&A 12:37 Dealing with new customers 14:49 Acquiring competitors 17:13 Target screening 22:19 Opening up conversations with the target company 23:55 Initial Due Diligence 25:59 Diligence list 30:17 Sunsetting competitors product 33:02 Assessing culture 34:52 Putting an LOI together 39:58 Negotiating deal structure 46:41 Earnouts 55:44 Keeping relationships 1:00:13 Best advice for practitioners
	M&A Surprises and Horror Stories	27 Nov 2023	01:05:06
Jim Ackerman, recent Vice President of Corporate Development at Flex; Steve Coghlan, Semi-recent Vice President of Corporate Development at Flex. Every deal is different, which means each and everyone will present unique challenges that teams have to overcome. Especially when dealing with smaller companies. There is no such thing as a perfect deal. However, with the right mindset and approach, deals can still close and bring value to both parties involved. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Jim Ackerman, recent Vice President of Corporate Development at Flex, and Steve Coghlan, former Vice President of Corporate Development at Flex, discuss their experiences on M&A surprises and horror stories. This episode is sponsored by FirmRoom, the fastest virtual data room used to get deals done. Leave the pay-per-page world behind by going to www.firmroom.com Episode Bookmarks 00:00 Intro 05:06 Sourcing deals 08:24 Key things to ask during the first meeting 11:49 How to get exclusivity 15:01 How the governance works 16:41 Due diligence red flags 17:21 Cultural integration 19:46 Working with the board 23:54 Best way to pitch a deal to the board 24:34 Stakeholder management in the board 25:40 Managing M&A surprises 29:30 Good M&A Surprises 34:37 Accounting surprises 36:30 Private deal surprises 40:39 IT surprises 42:33 Surprises between signing and closing 45:38 How to mitigate risks and surprises 46:13 What trap currency is 48:04 Integration surprises 50:40 Mitigating surprises from integration 54:25 Instilling clear and purposeful communication 55:23 Hardest step to do in M&A 56:10 Worst deal ever done 59:11 Best advice 1:00:12 Craziest thing in M&A
	How Positive Relationships Can Drive Success in M&A	20 Nov 2023	00:51:40
Nicole Markowski, Manager and Corporate Development at Wipfli LLP More than the numbers, relationships can make or break a deal. Regardless of the deal rationale, strong, trusting connections between parties can lead to smoother negotiations, clearer communication, and a greater likelihood of mutual satisfaction in the end result. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Nicole Markowski, Manager and Corporate Development at Wipfli LLP, delves into the importance of cultivating positive relationships to drive M&A success. ____________________________________________________________________________ This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit www.mascience.com/academy. Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net. FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to www.firmroom.com Episode Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 07:04 The importance of relationships in M&A 09:25 Key people to build relationships with 15:55 How to foster and develop relationships 23:03 How to engage with key people 25:27 Approach to build relationships 28:30 People assignment for developing relationships 30:47 Delegating tasks in building relationships 34:22 Key acquired company people to build relationships with 36:31 Handling resistant groups 39:25 People problems and how to address them 45:57 Advice to first-time practitioners 47:45 Craziest thing in M&A
	M&A from a CFO’s Perspective Session 2	13 Nov 2023	00:48:02
Samuel Wilson, Chief Executive Officer at 8x8 (NASDAQ: EGHT) In the grand scheme of things, every M&A must make financial sense. Whether it’s cutting cost, increasing revenue, or achieving operational efficiencies, it all boils down to the numbers. After all, every company’s main goal is to grow and increase profit for its shareholders. It is why the Chief Financial Officers play an integral role in M&A. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we will explore M&A from a CFO’s perspective, featuring Samuel Wilson, Chief Executive Officer at 8x8. ____________________________________________________________________________ This episode is sponsored by the DealRoom and FirmRoom. Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to www.firmroom.com. Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 07:55 The Role of CFO 11:39 Risk Management 14:39 Integration aspect 15:54 Alignment on assumptions 18:14 Managing people 19:28 Best integration practices 21:25 Working with the CEO 22:52 Walking away from a deal 27:10 Getting involved in the deal 29:50 Tying the Strategy 33:36 Integration Budgeting 39:43 Working with corporate development 40:54 Advice for first time acquirers 44:04 Craziest thing in M&A
	M&A from a CFO’s Perspective Session 1	06 Nov 2023	00:46:14
David Barnes, Chief Financial Officer at Trimble Inc. (NASDAQ:TRMB) Chief Financial Officers (CFOs) play a pivotal role in shaping the destiny of strategic ventures. Beyond their traditional financial responsibilities, these financial architects hold the key to unlocking the full potential of mergers and acquisitions. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we explore M&A from a CFO’s perspective with David Barnes, Chief Financial Officer at Trimble Inc. ____________________________________________________________________________ This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit mascience.com/academy. Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at dealroom.net. FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to firmroom.com. Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 04:29 The Role of CFO 05:14 How the CFO’s roles differs from the CEO 06:24 Decision-making process and approvals workflow 09:43 Communicating opportunities 11:15 Prioritization 14:18 Balancing the allocation of budgets 16:42 How equity compensation works 18:14 How aligned investment analysts are when evaluating a company 20:08 Forecasting deals 22:53 Priorities when looking at deals 26:49 Balancing priorities when structuring earnouts 28:31 Understanding a company’s culture 31:08 Integration from a CFO’s perspective 33:49 How the speed of integration impacts value realization 37:05 Biggest lessons learned as a CFO 39:23 How to pitch deals to the CFO 41:38 Craziest thing in M&A
	The Big Shift from Corporate Development to Private Equity	30 Oct 2023	00:39:51
Joe Metzger, Managing Director at 777 Partners Navigating a career shift can be a transformative experience, unlocking new opportunities and challenges. For Joe Metzger, Managing Director at 777 Partners, diving into the world of private equity was an exciting path to explore. It's a chance to grow expertise, collaborate with diverse entities, and embrace strategic growth. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Joe shares his amazing journey shifting from corporate development to private equity. ____________________________________________________________________________ Craving for fresh, actionable M&A insights? Dive into the M&A Science Fall Summit this Nov 8th! Unlock secrets on integration, valuations, talent retention, and more from top M&A minds. It’s all the ‘how-tos’ you need, and it’s FREE! Secure your spot at mascience.com. Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 05:02 Transitioning from Corporate Development to Private Equity 08:59 Corporate Development role vs Private Equity role 12:10 Seeking employment opportunities 16:16 The efficient frontier concept 20:06 Are you happier in private equity than in corporate development? 24:17 How to negotiate employment offers 26:48 Other things to negotiate in employment agreements 30:47 How to land a PE role 33:34 Advice to those considering transitioning between Corp Dev and Private Equity 34:52 How to transition to a PE role from a VC and M&A role 36:03 Craziest thing in M&A
	Integration Strategies in M&A Part 2	23 Oct 2023	00:37:57
Chris Evans, Experienced M&A Leader \| former Head of CorpDev Integration at Amazon and Scott Boyd, Deputy Director, Strategy Implementation at Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation \| former Head of Integration for AWS. (NASDAQ: AMZN) Change management is one of the most crucial aspects of M&A. While integration involves multiple facets, from supply chains to customers, change management is solely focused on the employees. This can make or break a deal, as employee retention is one of the main ingredients to achieving synergies in a timely manner. In this episode of the M&A Science podcast, Chris Evans, former Head of CorpDev Integration at Amazon and Scott Boyd, former Head of Integration for AWS, discusses integration strategies change management person. particularly the nuisances of change management. ____________________________________________________________________________ Craving for fresh, actionable M&A insights? Dive into the M&A Science Fall Summit this Nov 8th! Unlock secrets on integration, valuations, talent retention, and more from top M&A minds. It’s all the ‘how-tos’ you need, and it’s FREE! Secure your spot at MAscience.com! Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 02:26 Integration Strategy vs Change Management 06:50 Definition of Change Management 09:55 Dedicated Person for Change Management 14:03 Change Management Planning 16:16 Most Effective Approach to Change Management 19:32 Common Challenges during Change Management 24:25 Practical Tips for Change Management 26:49 Hardest Step in M&A 33:38 Craziest Thing in M&A
	Integration Strategies in M&A Part 1	16 Oct 2023	00:52:10
Chris Evans, Experienced M&A Leader \| former head of CorpDev Integration at Amazon and Scott Boyd, Deputy Director, Strategy Implementation at Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation \| former Head of Integration for AWS. (NASDAQ: AMZN) In the complex world of M&A, the difference between a successful deal and a failed one often hinges on integration. Proper integration, driven by a harmonious fusion of strategy and execution, ensures that the merging entities can effectively combine their strengths and navigate potential pitfalls. In this two-part episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we dive deep into the heart of integration strategies and underscores the pivotal role of the integration team during the due diligence process, featuring Chris Evans, ex-Head of CorpDev Integration at Amazon and Scott Boyd, former Head of Integration for AWS. ____________________________________________________________________________ Craving for fresh, actionable M&A insights? Dive into the M&A Science Fall Summit this Nov 8th! Unlock secrets on integration, valuations, talent retention, and more from top M&A minds. It’s all the ‘how-tos’ you need, and it’s FREE! Secure your spot at mascience.com. Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 06:11 Types of Integration Strategies 09:14 Transformative Integration 11:39 Deals Easy to Integrate 13:24 Most difficult thing to Integrate 15:40 Timeline of integration planning 20:26 Benefits of Integration teams running diligence 25:49 Integration Teams’ Diligence Execution 28:46 Structuring the M&A Function 34:39 Consistency vs. agility 40:10 Understanding culture pre LOI 44:34 Working with inexperienced business leaders 46:59 Questions to ask pre-LOI as an Integration leader
	Executing M&A in Healthcare	09 Oct 2023	00:45:52
Roy Schoenberg, President & Co-CEO at Amwell - American Well Corporation (NYSE:AMWL) The healthcare industry is a complex and rigid space where change is often rejected. Any evolution in this sector not only signifies business decisions but also influences the overall quality and accessibility of patient care. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Roy Schoenberg, President & Co-CEO at Amwell, delves into the intricacies of navigating M&A in the healthcare industry. ____________________________________________________________________________ This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit www.mascience.com/academy. Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net. FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to www.firmroom.com. Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 04:26 Evolving from a medical background to M&A 07:27 What makes the healthcare space distinct 09:36 What drove Amwell to do acquisitions 13:03 Shaping the acquisition strategy 16:59 Amwell’s first acquisition 22:29 Integrating the new company 24:50 Retaining key people 28:33 First acquisition lessons learned 31:03 Dealing with transaction surprises 34:03 Approaching deals as one of the main principal 38:01 Deal sourcing 39:49 Managing relationships with the counterparty 41:30 Communication during diligence 43:14 Craziest thing in M&A
	How to Balance Culture During an Integration	02 Oct 2023	00:45:59
Mark Rayfield, CEO of Saint-Gobain North America (EPA: SGO) and CertainTeed Integration is not just about combining processes and systems. It is about bridging cultures and creating a shared identity. However, integrating two organizations can be complex, especially when it comes to managing major cultural differences. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we explore key strategies for effectively balancing culture during an integration, featuring Mark Rayfield, CEO of Saint-Gobain North America and CertainTeed. ____________________________________________________________________________ This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit www.mascience.com/academy. Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to www.firmroom.com Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 05:50 Culture in M&A 09:59 Acquiring a competitor 11:18 Team Alignment 13:24 Understanding culture 15:45 Difficulties of Culture 16:52 Improving decision-making 18:55 Challenges for smaller companies 20:37 Lessons learned from acquisitions 24:58 Establishing strong communication 27:14 Advice on Integration 31:08 Retaining lessons learned 32:49 Ensuring deal value 34:40 Governance and M&A activities 37:20 Success metrics 38:59 Messaging with key investors 40:20 Non-core acquisitions 41:19 Cultural aspect of non-core acquisition 43:02 Craziest thing in M&A
	Why Beacon Created an AI Committee for M&A—and What They’re Testing Next (Part 2) with Harrison Thomas	10 Jul 2025	00:43:41
Harrison Thomas, Chief Growth Officer at Beacon Specialized Living Services, Inc. In Part 2 of our conversation, we go deep into how Beacon is operationalizing M&A. Harrison reveals how they reduced their request list by over 65%, why they require third parties to use their DealRoom, and how integration now begins before the deal is even signed. He also dives into the organization's AI roadmap, their internal CRM transformation, and the surprising challenges of acquiring non-profit organizations. If you want a behind-the-scenes look at building a scalable, tech-forward M&A machine in healthcare, don’t miss this episode. Things you will learn: How to build a centralized M&A system across CRM, diligence, and integration Why Beacon embeds integration planning before close—and the real cost of waiting What it takes to acquire and integrate nonprofit healthcare organizations Episode Chapters [00:02:30] Using third-party compliance audits and chart reviews in diligence [00:06:00] Evolving the deal process from relationship-building to IOI to close [00:12:00] Reducing diligence requests from 474 to 147 using DealRoom [00:14:00] Enforcing platform accountability for both internal teams and sellers [00:16:00] Managing deal fatigue and broker feedback in seller-heavy processes [00:21:00] Beacon’s shift from siloed M&A to One Beacon integration strategy [00:26:00] Running diligence and integration in parallel, starting pre-close [00:29:30] Valuation risks of integration backlog and how Beacon is addressing it [00:35:00] Centralizing the full M&A lifecycle—from CRM to integration—in one platform [0:41:00] How to approach acquiring nonprofit organizations (and why it’s worth it) _______________ 💡Try FirmRoom for Free This episode is sponsored by FirmRoom. The World’s Most Intuitive Virtual Data Room With AI Contract Analysis No Per-Page Fees. No B.S. Just Smarter, Faster Deals. Get started with your free trial today at firmroom.com! _______________ Questions, comments, concerns? Follow Kison Patel for behind-the-scenes insights on modern M&A.
	Planning and Executing Your Exit as an Investor	25 Sep 2023	00:46:24
Dr. Irit Yaniv, Founding Partner and CEO at Almeda Ventures (TLV: AMDA) While most investors have a passive role in their portfolio company, some investors are active in shaping and contributing to its success. For venture capitalists, one of the best scenarios is for the portfolio company to be acquired to maximize investment returns. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Dr. Irit Yaniv, Founding Partner and CEO at Almada Ventures, discusses what investors can do when planning and executing the exit. ____________________________________________________________________________ This episode is sponsored by FirmRoom, the fastest virtual data room used to get deals done. FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to www.firmroom.com Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 03:26 M&A in the medical device industry 04:49 Minority position during Investment 05:35 When to think about an exit 06:59 Getting involved in the exit 09:57 Working with the CEO 12:03 Keeping track of potential acquisitions 14:34 Finding the right buyer 17:55 Managing exit planning disagreements 20:34 Who controls exit decisions 22:23 Negotiation 25:37 When to engage with a banker 36:51 Advice on planning an exit 38:11 Bad exits 40:29 Other takeaways 42:35 Craziest thing in M&A
	How PE Should Support Portfolio Company Acquisitions	18 Sep 2023	00:46:59
Barak Routhenstein, Vice President of Corporate Development at Profile Products The collaboration between a Private Equity (PE) firm and a portfolio company during an acquisition is a powerful partnership. Together, they create a synergistic environment where growth and value thrive. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we will explore insights from Barak Routhenstein, Vice President Corporate Development at Profile Products, on how PE firms can provide invaluable support to portfolio companies during the acquisition process, setting the stage for success and maximizing value creation. ____________________________________________________________________________ Join us on October 5th, 2023, in New York City for the M&A Science Fair 2023. Dive into a transformative M&A experience that not only emphasizes participant-driven topics but also offers an unparalleled opportunity to network with the industry's top minds. You can elevate your M&A practice with actionable insights and top-tier networking. The event is invitation-only to ensure a curated experience. Secure your invite today! Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 03:57 Changes in the M&A landscape 04:39 Changes in private equity acquisitions 08:14 Go-to-market 10:48 Deal origination 12:19 International deals 14:25 How PE firms look at acquisitions 15:48 Bad cultural fit 18:40 Relationship with PE firms 20:20 Ideal PE-sponsor relationship 21:45 Managing deal sourcing conflicts 22:38 Approval process 24:44 Sustaining support from PE firms 27:08 Reporting structure 29:54 Advice for PE firms in supporting portfolio companies 32:54 Staging productive meetings 35:01 Keys to pitching a deal 38:46 Approaching target company relationships 41:28 Managing underperforming acquired companies 42:18 PE firms buying other PE firms 43:26 Craziest thing in M&A
	The Art of M&A: Striking the Right Balance Between Integration and Autonomy	11 Sep 2023	00:42:13
Glenn Sanford, CEO eXp World Holdings, Inc. (NASDAQ: EXPI) For high-growth companies, M&A is almost inevitable. If done right, it could speed up growth and open new opportunities for the acquiring entity. However, it’s not without challenges, as it can also be destructive and destroy both companies involved. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Glenn Sanford, CEO eXp World Holdings, Inc., discusses the art of M&A, and striking the right balance between integration and autonomy. ____________________________________________________________________________ Join us on October 5th, 2023, in New York City for the M&A Science Fair 2023. Dive into a transformative M&A experience that not only emphasizes participant-driven topics but also offers an unparalleled opportunity to network with the industry's top minds. You can elevate your M&A practice with actionable insights and top-tier networking. The event is invitation-only to ensure a curated experience. Secure your invite today! Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 03:51 EXP’s acquisition history 05:31 Reasons behind EXP’s acquisitions 10:12 Acquiring Success Magazine 14:22 Factors to consider when looking at potential targets 17:49 Understanding a company’s culture 20:13 Reverse merger 24:38 Capital structure evolution 27:05 Managing relationships with the board of directors and shareholders 31:19 Managing integration 36:47 Other lessons and takeaways 39:03 Craziest thing in M&A
	Ensuring Alignment for Deal Success	04 Sep 2023	00:50:09
Andrew Bilbao, current CFO of Noble Education Acquisition Corp. M&A is a massive undertaking that calls for collaboration among numerous individuals. Ensuring alignment with everyone involved is essential for the success of a deal. Yet, with a variety of opinions and personalities at play, achieving alignment can be quite a challenge. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Andrew Bilbao, CFO of Noble Education Acquisition Corp, shares valuable insights on how to guarantee alignment for deal success, paving the way for a smooth and fruitful M&A process. ____________________________________________________________________________ Join us on October 5th, 2023, in New York City for the M&A Science Fair 2023. Dive into a transformative M&A experience that not only emphasizes participant-driven topics but also offers an unparalleled opportunity to network with the industry's top minds. You can elevate your M&A practice with actionable insights and top-tier networking. The event is invitation-only to ensure a curated experience. Secure your invite today! Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 04:47 Areas where alignment is important 07:03 Approach to Alignment 11:19 Prioritizing the pipeline 14:11 Identifying an opportunity to LOI 15:56 Target Market Competitiveness 19:50 Evolving from first conversations 20:59 Go/No-go decision 25:47 Bidding process 28:45 Things to not do when dealing with the Board 29:55 Working with functional leads 33:41 Alignment with functional leads 35:53 Keeping alignment to strategy 38:16 The hardest part of achieving alignment 39:10 How do you not fall in love with your deal? 46:41 Craziest thing in M&A
	How a Public Equity Analyst Evolves to Executing M&A	28 Aug 2023	00:43:45
Greg Stein, Vice President, M&A and Strategy at Xerox (NASDAQ: XRX) For public equity analysts, M&A is nothing new. One of their main jobs is to conduct financial analyses of companies and other potential investments. However, M&A execution is another story. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Greg Stein, Vice President of M&A and Ventures at Xerox, shares his experience as a public equity analyst and how his role evolved to executing M&A. ____________________________________________________________________________ This episode is sponsored by FirmRoom, the fastest virtual data room used to get deals done. Leave the pay-per-page world behind by going to https://firmroom.com/ Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 06:42 From public equity analyst to doing deals 07:32 Executing M&A against the strategy 10:49 Assessing M&A processes of companies 13:58 Trends between announcement of a deal and stock price 15:50 Transition from PE analyst role into corp dev 17:48 How to evaluate a business 19:26 Walking away from a deal 21:11 Integration aspects 24:09 Potential pitfalls in a deal 25:25 Prioritizing diligence 26:54 Guiding principles 28:08 Deal timeline and who gets involved 30:52 People overlap 32:25 Preliminary diligence as a Public Equity Analyst 35:59 Tips for negotiations 38:09 Advice for people transitioning from public equity role to M&A 40:10 Craziest thing in M&A
	The Challenges of Cross-Border Deals	21 Aug 2023	01:03:14
Clifford Felig, Partner at Meitar \| Law Offices. International business transactions often present unique challenges that are vastly different from local ones. The complexity increases exponentially when these transactions involve mergers and acquisitions (M&A). In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Clifford Felig, Partner at Meitar Law Offices, discusses the challenges of cross-border deals, particularly in Isreal, where he had most of his experiences. ____________________________________________________________________________ This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy. If you’re looking to improve your in-house training, we have corporate training plans provided. Give your team members access to the best in class courses, templates, and networking opportunities in the industry. Our academy was designed to lead practitioners with the outdo with the M&A practices. It’s also a great way to show your support for M&A Science. If you’re interested in learning more about individual or team plans, visit this page. Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 03:44 Finding an attorney for cross-border deals 08:01 Challenges of cross-border deals 14:55 Being mindful of the time difference 16:21 Key differences in local laws 19:18 Nature of deals in Isreal 21:40 Mitigating Risks 25:19 Differences in Negotiations 28:10 Difference in presenting LOI 29:56 Key differences in price negotiations 33:33 The American stereotype 36:59 Indemnification issues 39:40 Confidentiality 43:20 Differences in diligence 46:43 The importance of an attorney’s experience 48:09 Negotiating legal fees 52:22 Integrating Cross-Border Deals 53:32 Signs of a bad counsel
	Tax Considerations in M&A	14 Aug 2023	00:56:23
Lesley Adamo, Vice Chair of the Tax Group at Lowenstein Sandler LLP, The intricacies of tax considerations in a merger or acquisition (M&A) transaction cannot be overstated. These considerations play a crucial role in shaping the overall economics and structure of the deal and can significantly impact the outcome for all parties involved. With expert tax planning and structuring, it is possible to mitigate the tax burden and maximize the benefits of the transaction. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Lesley Adamo, Vice Chair of the Tax Group at Lowenstein Sandler LLP, delves into the importance of tax considerations in M&A and provides valuable insights on navigating this complex landscape. Things you will learn in this episode: Tax complexities in M&A Buyer’s tax considerations Seller’s tax considerations Gross-up in negotiations Net-operating losses ____________________________________________________________________________ This episode is sponsored by The M&A Science Fair, the exclusive event for the industry-leading M&A corporate practitioners. Episode Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 05:49 Tax Complexities 07:34 Considering Tax 15:05 Start-up Tax liabilities 18:33 Minimizing Risks 21:42 Stock vs. Asset sale 22:58 Net Operating Losses 27:00 Buyer’s Benefits 28:24 Creating a Holding Company 30:00 Equity Compensation 31:33 Efficient Tax Structuring for Sellers 36:59 Negotiations 39:38 Tax Considerations in LOI 43:40 Qualified small business stock 48:59 Relocation for Tax Savings 50:41 Tax considerations during diligence 52:21 Lessons Learned
	How to do Deals in Latin America	07 Aug 2023	00:41:01
Juan Guillermo Castaneda, former Senior Advisor to SKG CEO (LSEG: SKG) This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit www.mascience.com/academy. Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at https://www.dealroom.net. FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to www.firmroom.com Episode Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 04:13 Difference of M&A in the US vs Latin America 10:14 Mitigating Risks 14:31 Culture 17:54 Deal sourcing 19:41 Approaching companies 21:02 Getting companies interested 22:46 Dealing with Legacies 25:06 Red Flags in deals 29:59 Integration 33:11 Alignment before closing 34:01 Lessons Learned 35:37 Negotiations 36:27 Craziest thing in M&A
	The Path to Successful Equal Mergers	31 Jul 2023	00:40:51
Scott Crofton, Partner at Sullivan & Cromwell LLP Too often, M&A involves a larger entity acquiring a smaller business. Only a few believe that a merger of equal can be possible, especially considering the power struggle between the two companies. However, a merger of equals can be a powerful strategy that could unlock tremendous value and opportunities for growth if done right. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Scott Crofton, Partner at Sullivan & Cromwell LLP, discusses the path to a successful equal merger. ____________________________________________________________________________ This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy. If you’re looking to improve your in-house training, we have corporate training plans provided. Give your team members access to the best in class courses, templates, and networking opportunities in the industry. Our academy was designed to lead practitioners with the outdo with the M&A practices. It’s also a great way to show your support for M&A Science. If you’re interested in learning more about individual or team plans, visit this page. Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 04:27 Mergers of equal 07:05 Managing mergers of equal 09:13 Private deals 12:55 The management team under mergers of equals 14:33 Board of directors composition 16:12 The process of mergers of equals 19:27 Diligence process 20:55 The impact of mergers of equal 23:06 Real-life story of Hostile Bids 25:13 Poison pill defense 28:51 Fairness Analysis 31:31 Litigation 33:18 Pros and Cons of Mergers of Equal 35:06 Time frame of mergers of equal 35:57 Best Advice 36:59 Craziest thing in M&A
	How To Create a Value Chain Ecosystem	24 Jul 2023	00:45:36
Brian Matthews, CEO at ITEL In today's highly competitive business landscape, companies are constantly looking for ways to enhance their capabilities and maintain their edge. With so many competitors in the market, how can a company stand out and reduce customer churn? In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Brian Matthews, CEO at ITEL, discusses his value chain ecosystem approach that can drive stability and growth to businesses. ____________________________________________________________________________ This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, mascience.com/academy. Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at dealroom.net. FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to firmroom.com. Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 04:20 Value chain ecosystem approach 08:23 Real-life example of a value chain ecosystem 12:05 Emphasis on the exit planning 13:51 Traditional bank exit 16:50 Benefits of an ecosystem approach 18:47 Bringing fresh perspectives 21:56 Ecosystem Playbook 23:58 How to create a value chain ecosystem 30:22 Considering the maturity of partner ecosystems of companies 37:19 Valuation 38:32 Best practices on deal execution 40:14 Transparency rules 42:18 Reading between the lines 43:09 Craziest thing in M&A
	Why Beacon Created an AI Committee for M&A with Harrison Thomas	07 Jul 2025	00:33:16
Harrison Thomas, Chief Growth Officer at Beacon Specialized Living Services, Inc. In Part 1 of our conversation with Harrison Thomas, Chief Growth Officer at Beacon Specialized Living Services, we dive into how one of the largest providers of specialized behavioral health services is rethinking M&A using AI. Harrison shares why Beacon created a dedicated AI committee focused on improving every stage of the deal lifecycle—from sourcing to integration—and what tools and pilots they’re exploring right now. If you want a first-hand look at how AI is already changing M&A in healthcare services, this episode is for you. Things you will learn: Why creating an AI committee can accelerate innovation in M&A processes. How AI tools are being piloted to improve diligence, sourcing, and integration planning. Practical challenges and lessons learned when adopting AI in a complex, people-centric industry. ________________________ Sponsored by DealRoom—where M&A chaos meets its match. Still stuck in spreadsheet hell? DealRoom helps corporate development teams take control—streamlining diligence, syncing integration, and eliminating the back-and-forth. 👉 Learn how you can run a repeatable, buyer-led process _______________ Episode Chapters [00:02:00] Why Beacon formed an AI committee specifically for M&A [00:04:30] Early AI experiments and low-risk pilots to test use cases [00:07:00] How AI is enhancing diligence processes and data analysis [00:09:00] Approaching cultural adoption of AI tools across the deal team [00:11:30] Evaluating vendor solutions vs. building AI tools in-house [00:14:00] Tracking ROI on AI adoption in the M&A process [00:16:00] Ethical considerations and privacy concerns when using AI in healthcare M&A [00:19:00] Overcoming skepticism about AI among senior leadership [00:22:00] Key metrics Beacon is using to measure AI-driven efficiency [00:31:00] Lessons learned on aligning AI strategy with overall M&A goals Questions, comments, concerns? Follow Kison Patel for behind-the-scenes insights on modern M&A.
	Buying Carve-outs for Future Exits	17 Jul 2023	00:54:55
Joe Covey, a serial CEO and acquirer, and investor since 1992. Matthew Davidge, the co-owner of the NBC Affiliate WVNC (Watertown, NY) and several other stations around the country. In big companies, some business units may not perform well and might be overlooked. It can be helpful for the company to find a more suitable owner for these units. At the same time, buyers can take advantage of these opportunities to improve the businesses and maximize their potential. In this episode of the M&A Science podcast, we will explore the experiences of Josh Covey, a successful CEO, acquirer, and investor, and Matthew Davidge, co-owner of NBC Affiliate WVNC, as they buy and develop these businesses with the goal of exiting in the future. ____________________________________________________________________________ This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy. If you’re looking to improve your in-house training, we have corporate training plans provided. Give your team members access to the best-in-class courses, templates, and networking opportunities in the industry. Our academy was designed to lead practitioners to outdo M&A practices. It’s also a great way to show your support for M&A Science. If you’re interested in learning more about individual or team plans, visit this page. Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 06:43 Buy-side carve-out deals 10:35 Key approach to due diligence 11:52 Unbinding a company 13:51 Why carve-outs are difficult 15:41 Conversations with the right people 19:05 Key things to consider when doing a carve-out 22:58 Walking away from a deal 23:59 Considerations in the carve-out model 26:32 Challenges on the buy-side of carve-outs 27:58 You have to surround yourself 30:21 Evolving the operating model 34:37 The right time to exit 35:55 How working with an investment bank is different 37:48 Bank process vs. Proprietary deals 39:21 Key lessons 40:55 Timing 42:14 Communications 43:34 Alignment on post-close operations 45:27 Advice for first-time sellers 47:57 Negotiation considerations 49:59 Craziest thing in M&A
	How to Execute Product-Based Acquisitions	10 Jul 2023	00:49:23
Andrew Morbitzer, VP/Head of Corporate Development at Typeform There are many different reasons why companies buy other entities. Traditionally, acquirers have focused more on the financial aspect of the target company. However, experience have shown that not all acquisitions are the same, and must be executed properly against their strategy. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Andrew Morbitzer, VP/Head of Corporate Development at Typeform, discusses how to execute product-based acquisitions. ______________________________________________________________________________ This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy. If you’re looking to improve your in-house training, we have corporate training plans provided. Give your team members access to the best in class courses, templates, and networking opportunities in the industry. Our academy was designed to lead practitioners with the outdo with the M&A practices. It’s also a great way to show your support for M&A Science. If you’re interested in learning more about individual or team plans, visit this page. Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 05:35 From engineering product to M&A 09:21 Difference of Product based acquisition 16:04 Gauging Product Market fit 22:07 Direct Observation 26:15 Permission from the company 28:21 Overlap analysis during product-based acquisition 31:35 Key elements for deal success 36:16 Agile M&A 37:51 Integrating engineering teams 40:53 Tips for product acquisition 42:41 Integrating competing products 47:00 Craziest thing in M&A
	Building your M&A Muscle	03 Jul 2023	00:40:47
Nate Lemmerman, Senior Vice President, Corporate Development at Cast & Crew To perform M&A at the highest level, an ever-evolving M&A function is necessary. Organizations must focus on refining their strategies, processes, and team dynamics to ensure they can effectively navigate the complexities of each deal. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Nate Lemmerman, Senior Vice President of Corporate Development at Cast & Crew, shares his experience and tips on how to build your M&A muscle. ____________________________________________________________________ This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit www.mascience.com/academy. Don’t forget to use code “podcast” at checkout. Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net. FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to www.firmroom.com Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 06:10 Building an M&A function from scratch 09:05 Steps to building an M&A muscle 12:17 The strategy 15:38 Process and execution structure 22:16 Critical things to consider before signing a deal 26:04 Hiring people for the M&A team 28:30 Building the diligence muscle 30:01 People alignment in M&A 32:20 Building the integration muscle 35:39 Best practices when doing deals 37:55 Craziest thing in M&A

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