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This episode was hard to record - but also deeply needed.

I'm in the thick of it right now. 

My dad passed away suddenly, and I've been trying to navigate the heartbreak, PMDD, business, burnout, and the wild mess that is life with ADHD.

And today, I'm sharing what it's really like to grieve with a neurodivergent brain. I talk about the guilt, the impulsive spending urges, the dark thoughts, the small victories (like showering!), and the strange comfort of laughing in the middle of it all.

If you're in the "messy middle" too, whether it's grief, depression, burnout, or just being human, I hope this episode reminds you that you're not alone, and that showing up messily is still showing up.

I also open up about the financial impact of losing my Access to Work support, why this will be the last podcast episode for a little while (spoiler: we’ll be back for episode 100 in the new year), and how I’m coping one tiny step at a time.

Whether you’re neurodivergent or not, if you’ve ever felt like life is a bit too much, I hope this makes you see you're not alone, and this is what you need right now. Not in a fluffy way. In a "holy shit, how am I still standing?" kind of way.

Come for the raw truth, stay for the stories about my ADHD dad, impulsive motorbike buys, and why I might be turning into a runner (???).

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Have you ever felt THREATENED by people in your niche?

Have you avoided looking at what others are doing... or feared you'll be seen as a copy cat?

In this solo episode of Mad About Business, I open up about how I used to feel paralysed seeing someone in my industry “doing better” than me... and why that feeling comes from scarcity, not strategy. 

We dive into why avoiding your competitors doesn’t protect you, it actually keeps you small.

From working with fellow ADHD advocates to inviting other visibility strategists into my world, I’m sharing the messy truth about what happens when you stop seeing everyone as competition and start finding ways to grow together. You’ll also hear about real moments from my own business journey, like being called out as a "Sickfluencer" and how I turned that narrative around.

Whether you're in coaching, consulting, or content creation, this episode is your reminder: there’s more than enough to go around – and you don’t have to do it alone.

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“There’s no such thing as original”

“I used to be terrified of competitors”

“They’ll steal my clients!”

“It’s not copying – it’s business”

“She still endorsed my book”

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In this in-person episode of Mad About, I sat down with one of the most influential people in my personal transformation – Naomi Holbrook, The Unconventional Weight Loss Coach who’s completely changed how I see food, my body, and my ADHD.

We talk food noise, emotional eating, PMDD, and how my impulsivity used to show up in the Lidl middle aisle (yep, I’ve brought home a sofa). 

If you’ve ever been stuck in shame spirals around food, tried every diet under the sun (Slimming World, I’m looking at you), or found yourself stress-spending and binge-eating to cope...  Naomi is here to get rid of the rigid meal plans and instead, teaches women to heal their relationship with food, their bodies, and themselves!

Plus, we chat about:

• The unexpected connection between ADHD, food, and money
• What really helps when you're stuck in dopamine-dependence loops
• My own story of ditching alcohol, navigating emetophobia, and choosing health without injections
• How food planning is now saving me money (and sanity)
• Why reprogramming your brain is more powerful than willpower

Naomi also shares the story behind her book and what it really means to lose the literal and emotional weight, from shame to old beliefs to gray-area drinking.

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Today, I take you behind the scenes of what it’s really like to run a business while navigating ADHD, PMDD, and burnout.

When I recorded this, I was in a dark place. 

Deep in the PMDD spiral where suicidal thoughts felt consuming. 

The next day, after my period came early, I feel like a different person. That’s the brutal truth of PMDD: it hijacks your brain, wrecks your energy, and distorts your reality.

I share exactly what I was going through, how ADHD makes it 100x worse, and why we need to talk more openly about this monthly mental health rollercoaster - especially as business owners.

You'll hear how I’m learning to plan my workload around my PMDD cycle, the self-care strategies that have actually helped, and why communication (even when it’s messy) is everything.

If you’ve ever felt like you were falling apart during “that time of the month” or questioned whether you can keep running your business, this episode will make you feel seen.

This one’s real. It’s uncomfortable. But it’s so needed.

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This week I’m joined by the incredible Beth Thomas from Unbound Mind Coaching for a raw, relatable conversation about perfectionism, money stories, and what it really takes to love yourself as you are.

We talk about growing up with mixed money messages, the shame that comes from feeling “not good enough,” and the messy middle seasons of business nobody sees on Instagram. 

Beth shares powerful insights on internalised ableism, from feeling “not disabled enough” to the quiet ways scarcity mindset seeps into our self-worth, and how acceptance is the first step to changing it.

You’ll hear us cover everything from neurodivergent entrepreneurship, RSD, and people-pleasing, to mobility struggles, personal boundaries, and the pressure to “look” a certain way before putting yourself out there. If you’ve ever felt like you had to be perfect before you could start, this conversation will set you free.

Whether you’re here for the mindset shifts, the money talk, or just to feel less alone in your journey, you’ll walk away knowing you’re already enough – exactly as you are.

“I’m Not Disabled Enough”

“F*** Perfection – I’m Just Me”

“Money, Ableism, and Feeling Good Enough”

“If You Don’t Like Me, Leave”

“Your Worth Isn’t Up for Debate”

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I’m diving deep into the content boundaries I live by.  What I share, what I won’t share, and why visibility doesn’t have to come at the cost of your privacy.

So many of us feel pressure to overshare online to be “authentic.” But the word “should” can go straight in the f*ck it bucket!

You don’t owe your audience your trauma. You don’t need to crack yourself open just to stay visible. You get to choose what you share and how you show up.

From my own rules around sharing family and personal stories, to how I support communities I’m not part of, this episode is a must-listen if you’ve ever felt torn about what feels right to post.

Inside this episode:

• Why I never talk about my kids’ feelings online
• How to support others without co-opting their stories
• The 4 content pillars I stick to
• My “scar, not wound” policy for vulnerability
• How to balance authenticity with self-protection

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In this episode of Mad About Podcast, Maddy Alexander-Grout talks to Logan Blackburn-Issitt, a trans dad of six and creator of Dad’s Business. 

Logan shares his powerful story of leaving a 70-hour job, embracing home education, and building a life that prioritises presence over paychecks.

They discuss:

• Why Logan quit a high-paying job for more family time
• The pressure dads face to “provide and stay silent”
• The reality of home educating neurodivergent kids
• Growing up trans and knowing at age six
• The toxicity of social media for young people
• His new book The Brilliant Dads Encyclopedia of Fun, packed with low-prep ideas for connecting with your kids
• The gender traps kids absorb from school and how to unlearn them

 Follow Logan on TikTok: Dad’s Business

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For the past four months, I’ve been deep in what I call the ADHD funk hole. No motivation, zero focus, overwhelmed by impostor syndrome and a big fat case of “everyone hates me.”

On this episode of Mad About, I’m getting brutally honest about what it’s like when visibility feels like a lie, grief and PMDD are wrecking your nervous system, and business starts slipping because you’re just not okay.

I’m talking about the real stuff: losing my grandma, navigating a nightmare house move, my membership dipping, and how I finally started crawling out of the hole.  I’m sharing the exact things that helped me start to feel human again.

If you’re neurodivergent and in business, and you’ve been in that weird limbo funk too, this episode is your reminder that you’re not alone.

I also spill the tea on what’s coming with Amplify Your Influence, why I’m ditching people-pleasing, and how I’m stepping into Maddy 2.0 with a vengeance.

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This week, I sat down with the incredible Rhiannon Gogh, SEND advocate, chartered financial advisor, and mum to a profoundly autistic son - and it's one of the most eye-opening conversations I’ve ever had on this podcast.

We got real about the brutal financial reality of raising neurodivergent children, the emotional toll of being a carer, and the gaping holes in the system that leave families like ours vulnerable.

We talked about:

• The triple cost of raising a child with SEND
• Why so many carers can’t work, and what that means for their futures
• How financial planning mistakes (you didn’t even know were mistakes) can cost your child their benefits or care
• The heartbreaking stories Rhiannon hears every single week – and what she’s doing about it

We also got deeply personal about masking, people-pleasing, debt, perimenopause, and why neurodivergent business owners need different kinds of support.

This isn’t just a money episode. It’s a reality check, a call-out, and a roadmap for anyone parenting neurodivergent kids, or navigating life with hidden disabilities.

📖 Get Rhiannon’s book Planning With Love
💬 Follow @carersacademy on Instagram
🌍 Learn more: planitfuture.co.uk

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In this  episode of Mad About Business, I’m answering a hot question from one of my Invisible to Influential members: “How do I actually get more clients?”

Whether you’re posting every day and hearing crickets or hiding in the background of your memberships hoping someone notices you... this episode will help you cut through the noise and get seen for what you’re great at.

I’m diving into how I’ve built a presence that has people saying, “You’re literally everywhere,” and the exact ways you can start building visibility and trust in your own business, even if you’re neurodivergent, multi-passionate, or hate the hard sell.

In this episode:

• Why visibility isn’t just “showing up on Instagram”
• How to show your value without giving it all away for free
• The power of video, podcasting, and real human connection
• What trust really looks like (and how to build it without being salesy)
• Simple ways to become the go-to expert in your niche

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On this episode of Mad About Money, I sit down with Caroline Strawson - trauma specialist, narcissistic abuse therapist, and all-around powerhouse - to get real about the emotional side of money. We dive into the often-invisible layers of financial abuse, the generational beliefs that sabotage our earning potential, and how trauma gets stored in our bank accounts (yep, really).

Caroline shares her personal story of losing her family home, walking away from a financially abusive marriage, and rebuilding her life from over £70K in debt to running four purpose-driven businesses - including buying her dream home. 

We also explore why overspending can be a trauma response, how to spot red flags in your relationship, and what to do if money is being used as a weapon against you.

This conversation is raw, honest, and might just shift how you see your own financial story. Whether you're healing from past debt or trying to break through your income ceiling, there's something here for you.

In this episode:

• Why therapy didn’t work for Caroline (and what finally did)
• Somatic scaling + what it has to do with your business success
• How Caroline reframed her PTSD and rewired her money beliefs
• The difference between healthy financial independence and financial control
• The exact signs of financial abuse people often miss
  
  

🔗 Connect with Caroline Strawson

• Website & Resources: https://www.carolinestrawson.com
• Podcast – The Narcissistic Abuse & Trauma Recovery Podcast
• Book – Divorce Became My Superpower 
• YouTube Channel
• Instagram

“I was £70K in debt — and had PTSD”

“I didn’t even know it was financial abuse”

“You can’t think your way into healing”

“I needed to earn… but money made me feel dirty”

“I used to overspend to protect myself”

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In this episode of Mad About Business, I’m breaking down the deeply frustrating experience I had with a casting call that claimed to be inclusive… 

but completely missed the mark.

It started with an advert about a “campaign celebrating authenticity.” Sounded great -until I read the fine print: must be in good health, no visible tattoos or facial piercings, polished professional appearance. For a photo. Of a “real” person.

I’m calling out the double standards and outdated professionalism rules that still dominate the business world - especially when they try to parade as inclusive. If you’ve ever felt judged for how you look, dress, or show up as a neurodivergent, disabled, or simply human founder, this one’s for you.

In this episode:

• The real definition of professionalism (hint: it’s not your outfit)
• Why performative inclusivity is more damaging than none at all
• My rant on rigid beauty standards in “authentic” marketing
• Shout-outs to brands and people who are getting it right
• How I built a safer space in my membership by doing the opposite

Mentions:

• Docket by Kathryn Ann Reed – life admin platform for neurodivergent folks
• Jen Wilson – DEI coach and safe space educator
• Lloyds & Nationwide – orgs doing actual inclusion work

• “No visible tattoos?! What the fuck?”
• “This is not what inclusion looks like”
• “I’m autistic AND professional”
• “You don’t look ‘healthy’ in a photo”
• “Professionalism is a mindset, not a dress code”

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In this episode of Mad About Money, I sit down with the brilliant Nicola Noél - hypnotherapist, Specialist Mental Health Nurse and founder of Brainworks Therapy - to talk about the intersection of neurodivergence, anxiety, and money. We get real about why so many traditional money tools like budgeting apps and spreadsheets just don’t work when your brain is wired differently.

Nicola shares her powerful story of growing up in poverty, navigating mental health challenges, and building a shame-free, sustainable relationship with money. We explore how financial trauma shows up in neurodivergent communities, and what it actually takes to feel safe with your finances again.

If you’ve ever felt like you're “bad with money” or find yourself avoiding your bank account out of fear, this conversation is a validating, judgment-free space. Nicola’s approach is all about compassion, empowerment, and strategies that actually work for your brain.

In this episode:

• Why budgeting often fails ADHD brains
• How money dysregulation is tied to trauma
• The emotional weight of financial shame
• Nicola’s journey from financial fear to empowered coaching
• Tools that work for neurodivergent folks (and what to avoid)

Follow Nicola Noél:
Instagram – @brainworkstherapy

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If you’ve ever stared at a sales page (or a restaurant menu) and walked away empty-handed because it was too much - you already know the #1 sales mistake most business owners make.

In this solo episode, I share a totally unfiltered breakdown of why confused people don’t buy, how that’s played out in my own business, and what I’m doing about it.

Spoiler alter: less is more.

I get into:

• Why offering too many things kills conversions
• How to turn “you get body doubling sessions” into “you get sh*t done”
• What actually makes people buy (it’s not features)
• The 5-offer structure I’m building my entire business around
• A behind-the-scenes look at what makes my membership, Invisible to Influential, a total no-brainer for growth-focused entrepreneurs

This isn’t theory - it’s me unpacking what’s actually working in my business and why clear, emotional, benefit-led messaging beats benefits-and-bullet-points every damn time.

If you want more clients, less confusion, and way more clarity in your sales strategy, you're gonna love this! 

• “Confused people don’t buy”
• “My offer was too messy to sell”
• “I had to burn it all down”
• “One offer at a time—max”
• “Your features aren’t the hook”

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In this episode, I’m joined by the brilliant Paul Culshaw - a marketing expert who’s not just been in the game for 25 years, but has actually lived the ups and downs of navigating money, marketing, and mindset as a business owner.

We talk about everything from being made redundant five times (yep, five!) to learning how to actually charge what your work is worth - even when you’re someone who just loves helping people. 

If you’ve ever lowballed your prices, procrastinated on putting yourself out there, or felt a little ick about selling… this episode is your gentle slap of truth.

We also go deep on:

• Why being broke in your 20s teaches you more than a business degree ever could
• What it actually means to have a healthy money mindset (without the guru fluff)
• The behind-the-scenes of pricing as a coach or course creator
• How AI can support your marketing (without sounding like ChatGPT wrote your posts)
• And why accessibility, neurodivergence, and course structure matter more than the perfect funnel

This one’s packed with stories, real talk, and a few “ohhh that’s why no one’s buying” moments. Whether you’re new to business or knee-deep in a pricing spiral, I think you’ll see yourself in this one.

“Redundant 5 times. Still showed up.”

“No one’s paying? It’s not the price

“This is why clients say no”

Connect with Paul:

Instagram: @coachpaulculshaw

Website: paulculshaw.com

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Welcome to Mad About Business! 

You might know me from Mad About Money, but this is a whole new vibe. In this solo series, I'm speaking directly to you - no guests, no fluff - just real talk about running a business when your brain doesn't always follow the rules.

I'm Maddy Alexander Grout: ADHD business coach, neurodiversity specialist, and visibility strategist for entrepreneurs who don’t fit the cookie-cutter mould.

Whether you’re dealing with executive dysfunction, rejection sensitivity, or just feel like you’re winging it - this new podcast is for you.

In this first episode, I’m sharing:

• Why Mad About Business had to happen (hint: it’s not just about content)
• The surprising way I grew my 6-figure business after my last one crashed
• How I sell without DMing a soul - and why that matters for neurodivergent entrepreneurs
• What to expect from this show, from spicy biz tips to blunt advice you didn’t know you needed

If you’re tired of being told to “just be consistent” and you’re ready for a business that actually works for your brain, hit subscribe and let’s grow together.

Follow me on Instagram @maddytalksmoney and TikTok @madaboutmoneyofficial.

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In this episode, I chat with the absolutely incredible Amy Butterworth - or as she’s known online, Long COVID Rockstar.

Amy lives with long COVID, and what she shares about rest, identity, and the invisible cost of simply existing in a capitalist world? It hit me hard.

We talk about what it’s like to live in a society that tells you your worth is tied to how much you can produce -  and what happens when your body says no more. 

Amy gets honest about disability, burnout, ego vs. grace, and the internal work it takes to stop apologising for existing.

Together, we explore:

💥 Why hustle culture is inherently ableist
 🧠 How chronic illness forces you to reframe identity
 💤 The shame of needing rest (and why that needs to go)
 🛑 Why “pushing through” is dangerous - not brave
 📣 How to show up for your community when you can barely sit up
🌈 Designing inclusive spaces for everyone, not just some
🎯 Why we’re ditching SMART goals and going full FARC instead

This episode isn’t just about disability. It’s about worth. About making space for yourself in a system that wasn’t built for you, and unlearning the lie that rest makes you lazy.

Amy’s wisdom, honesty, and wit blew me away. I know you’re going to fall in love with her too.

🔗 Connect with Amy:

📸 Instagram: @longcovidrockstar
🎥 TikTok: @longcovidrockstar (she's lurking — for now)

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If you’ve ever looked at your bank balance and thought “What the actual f*ck just happened?” - this episode’s for you.

This week I sat down with ADHD coach Ben Cook to unpack why so many neurodivergent people feel “shit with money” - and what’s actually underneath that shame spiral. 

From people-pleasing purchases to impulse spending as emotional regulation, we get into the real stories behind the ADHD tax (and no, it’s not just water bottles and Roblox).

We also chat about:

• The identity crisis of a late diagnosis (and how it rewrites your past)
• Why so many ADHDers burn out in ‘cutthroat’ careers like sales and recruitment
• How emotional dysregulation drives addictive spending
• Teaching kids about money without passing on the shame
• Why self-diagnosis and awareness can be just as powerful as a formal label
• And yes… I give Ben a loving nudge about finally showing up on TikTok

This one’s full of raw honesty, laughs, and practical takeaways for anyone navigating money, mindset, or visibility with a spicy brain.

Connect with Ben Cook:

Website: goodtothinkdifferently.com

Instagram: @thisisbencook

LinkedIn: Ben Cook, ICF, ACCPH

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This episode is so much more than a money chat.

I sat down with the incredible Washington Ali - coach, speaker, stage host, all-round legend - to talk about how he went from hating money to helping people find peace and profit in their lives and businesses. We got deep. Like, spicy brain, trauma healing, “what even is money” kind of deep.

Washington shares the messy, powerful journey from dropping out of college and burning out, to stepping into purpose, creating inclusive spaces, and showing up fully as himself. 

We chat about:

• Why money isn’t the villain (even when it feels like it)
• Growing up around wealth when you don’t have any
• ADHD, spicy brain stuff, and why diagnosis is complicated
• Building community when social media feels unsafe
• How your values should be part of how you show up

If you’ve ever questioned your relationship with money, or wondered how to be more you in business, I think you’ll love this one.

Connect with Washington:

Washingtons' Website: Become Alive

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What if your desire to do good is the very thing keeping you broke?

In this episode of Mad About Money, Maddy sits down with the brilliant, rebellious, multi-hyphenate Jenn - a performing artist, activist, and creator of the International Day of Consent - to unpack the quiet, emotional toll of undercharging when you’re purpose-led and values-first.

Together, they dive deep into:

• Why so many ethical, neurodivergent, and heart-led humans feel guilty about making money
• The connection between capitalism, pricing shame, and internalised “good person” conditioning
• Rewriting money mindset without selling out (or burning out)
• How consent, business, and activism are more connected than you think
• The truth about financial inclusivity, and why charging less doesn’t always help the people you think it does

It’s raw, hilarious, full of swearing and solidarity, and packed with unfiltered honesty about money, identity, neurodivergence, and the power of showing up as your full self.

✨ Plus: the story behind Jenn’s drag queen alter ego Misty Valentine, what “fuck normal” really means, and why you absolutely can rebel against capitalism while running a business.

Links & mentions

• Follow Jenn Wilson and explore Irregular Ink: irregular.org.uk
• Learn more about the International Day of Consent: idoconsent.org
• Catch Jenn at Visible Fest: Visible Fest

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In this solo episode, I’m getting honest about something that’s been building for a while: why I’m ditching social media and creating a brave new space instead.

This isn’t about beating the algorithm or boosting engagement. 

It’s about burnout. 

It’s about safety. 

And it’s about choosing a better way to build community  (especially for people who are so often pushed out of online spaces)

I share:

• What it really felt like to launch Mad About Money as a neurodivergent author
• Why social media no longer feels safe or supportive for me (and so many others)
• How I’m rebuilding a space that actually celebrates you
• Some of the wild highs, personal lows, and incredible reader feedback from the past week
• A reminder that if you’ve ever felt othered or invisible - you’re not alone, and you belong in my world

This episode is part book update, part behind-the-scenes, and part rally cry. If you’re ready for something more honest, more inclusive, and way more human… this is it.

✨ Come hang out with us in the new Mad About Money community - I’d love to have you!

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In this episode of Mad About Money, I’m joined by personal trainer and all-round powerhouse, Rhiannon Cooper, founder of Not So Typical Fitness.

And trust me - this is not your typical fitness chat.

Rhiannon opens up about being diagnosed with autism and ADHD later in life, and how that changed everything—from the way she approaches health, to how she runs her business, and how she manages her money.

We talk about:

• The trauma that traditional fitness spaces can leave behind
• Why “no food is good or bad” needs to be said louder
• How breathlessness in exercise can be triggering for neurodivergent people
• And why joy in movement matters more than calorie burn ever did

We also dig into money stuff, like debt, budgeting without shame, and why neurodivergence can make financial decisions feel way more overwhelming.

Rhiannon’s journey is one of self-discovery, compassion, and completely flipping the script on what “fitness” and “success” are supposed to look like.

Check out Rhiannon's website

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In this episode of Mad About Money, I sit down with transformational coach Alice Rose to talk about her journey through fertility challenges, and how she turned that experience into a successful coaching business.

Alice opens up about the financial impact of IVF, the emotional toll it takes, and why mental health support is so important during that time. 

We dive into the realities of fertility treatments, the hidden costs, and the pressure that often falls on women to manage it all.

Alice also shares how she went from financial struggle to making over £10K in a week with her course, proving that sometimes, the toughest experiences lead to the biggest opportunities. 

We talk imposter syndrome, the power of community, and why qualifications can help - but they’re not the be-all and end-all when it comes to making a real impact.

If you’ve ever felt the weight of parental guilt, struggled with money decisions on your fertility journey, or wondered how to turn your personal struggles into something that helps others, this one’s for you.

In This Episode, We Cover:

• The true cost of fertility treatments & how to plan financially
• The importance of mindset and mental health support
• How Alice built a fertility support brand & created a thriving business
• Overcoming imposter syndrome & the fear of not being “qualified enough”
• Why community is everything when it comes to support and growth
• How Instagram became a game-changer for Alice’s business
  
  

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In this episode of Mad About Money, I chat with psychic business strategist Vicki Chisholm about the power of alignment in both business and personal growth.

Vicki opens up about how her relationship with money has mirrored her experiences with love and self-worth,a nd how overcoming financial trauma helped her step into abundance. 

We break down her ADAPT Breakthrough Strategy, a must-know framework for making confident decisions (especially if you struggle with ADHD or decision paralysis!)

And we also explore the role of intuition in business, the difference between fear-based resistance and true misalignment, and why shifting from a scarcity mindset to an abundance mindset can be life-changing.

In This Episode, We Cover:

• Why alignment is the key to success - in money, business & life!
• How your money mindset is tied to love, self-worth & past experiences
• How to stop decision paralysis & start trusting yourself
• The power of heart-centered leadership & self-awareness
• How money archetypes influence your financial habits
• Why shifting from scarcity to abundance can transform everything

Vicki’s journey proves that when you step into alignment, everything changes. If you’re ready to stop forcing things and start attracting what’s actually right for you, then hit play now!

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In this episode of Mad About Money, I sat down with Nadia Essex, who you might know from the telly, but trust me, she’s so much more than her public persona.

This is the kind of conversation that covers everything:
💥 Mental health
💥 Motherhood
💥 ADHD
💥 Legal battles
💥 Entrepreneurship
💥 The pressure of fame
💥 And learning how to rebuild when everything feels like it’s falling apart!

Nadia shares how she went from being a household name to hitting rock bottom, with bailiffs at the door, a baby on the way, and no idea what was coming next!

We talked about rejection sensitivity (and how brutal it can be), what ADHD really looks like in daily life, the struggle to feel understood, and why self-diagnosis does count.

She’s rebuilding now - with a new business, better boundaries, and a completely different view of success.

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Today, I sit down with neurodivergent coach and consultant H. Harris to talk about identity, resilience, and the importance of visibility for neurodivergent individuals.

H shares their journey of self-acceptance, the challenges of navigating education as a neurodivergent person, and the impact of COVID-19 on their career path. 

We get real about the pressure to seek external validation, why owning your story is so powerful, and how embracing joy and play can transform your life.

We also dive into the complexities of cultural identity, the barriers that come with being truly visible, and why music can be such a game-changer for self-expression. 

 In This Episode, We Cover:

•  Why self-acceptance is key to personal & professional success
• The challenges neurodivergent individuals face in education & society
• The pressure of external validation & how to break free from it
• How music, play, and joy can shape your identity & wellbeing
• The complexities of cultural identity & self-reflection
• The importance of creating safe spaces for neurodivergent voices

This conversation is packed with insight, honesty, and some powerful moments of reflection on what it really means to be yourself in a world that often tells you to fit in.

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In this episode of Mad About Money, I sit down with Tania Gerard, a Neurodiversity Trainer and Accessible Marketing Strategist, to dive into the realities of neurodiversity in the workplace. 

We’re talking about why companies that fail to support neurodivergent employees are leaving serious money on the table, and what they should be doing instead.

I also open up about my own experiences with job hopping, feeling unsupported at work, and how ADHD has shaped my relationship with money. 

Tania shares her insights on why businesses need to rethink how they accommodate neurodivergent individuals, not just because it’s the right thing to do - but because it actually benefits their bottom line.

We also get into:
 💡 The financial impact of supporting vs. ignoring neurodivergent employees
 💡 How ADHD brains process spending, saving, and money decisions
 💡 The power of questioning our purchases (and the “cash or item” test)
 💡 Why neurodivergent individuals often struggle with catastrophising thoughts
 💡 The importance of sharing real, messy stories about money and work.

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In this episode of Mad About Money, I sit down with Dr. Zoe Watson, a GP and women's wellbeing coach, to talk all things ADHD, neurodivergence, and the chaos of managing life, money, and self-care when your brain just works differently.

Zoe was diagnosed with ADHD in her 40s, and let me tell you - she does not hold back in this conversation!

We talk about the struggles of decision-making (why is it so hard?!), the privilege that comes with "just eating healthy," and the reality of navigating finances as a neurodivergent entrepreneur.

Plus, she shares how she turned her own experiences into a creative business - because of course, one job is never enough when your brain loves everything, all at once.

In This Episode, We Chat About:

🔥 Zoe’s ADHD diagnosis and how it changed the way she sees herself
 💰 The chaos of managing finances as a locum GP
 🧠 Why neurodivergent brains struggle with decision-making (it's like a never-ending game of Deal or No Deal!)
🚀 The privilege of "just eating healthy" and why wellness influencers need to stop oversimplifying
🕯️ How Zoe started making neurotransmitter-inspired candles as a way to channel her creativity
😵‍💫 ADHD burnout, hyperfocus, and the balance between ADHD & autism
👛 The handbag test—aka, one of the weirdest ADHD indicators!

If you’ve ever felt like life admin is just one never-ending list of decisions you can’t make, or if you’ve got a gym membership you haven't used in years (same), this one’s for you.

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Ever thought about writing a book? Well, today’s episode might just be the push you need!

I’m joined by Shaa Wasmund, an entrepreneur, bestselling author, and business powerhouse, to talk about how writing a book can open doors, build credibility, and bring in new clients. 

But we’re not just talking about writing - we’re diving deep into money mindset, imposter syndrome, and the real impact of putting your knowledge out into the world.

Shaa shares her own journey in publishing and entrepreneurship, why visibility is everything, and how personal money stories shape our financial future.

She also reveals why so many coaches and mentors should be writing books to grow their business, and how to actually make it happen.

In This Episode, We Cover:

✔️ Why everyone has a book in them (yes, even you!)
 ✔️ How writing can create new business opportunities and expand your reach
 ✔️ The money mindset blocks that stop entrepreneurs from earning what they deserve
 ✔️ The power of collaboration over competition in business success
 ✔️ Choosing the right publisher and why it’s essential for your book’s success
 ✔️ How imposter syndrome holds us back - and how to push through it
 ✔️ The importance of focusing on what you take home financially rather than just revenue
 ✔️ Why books make knowledge more accessible and help create lasting impact

If you’ve ever dreamed of writing a book, and want to know how you can become a published expert in under 90 days, then join Shaa’s Bookfest event HERE* (starts Monday 24th March 2025) 

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What happens when a cancer diagnosis turns your life (and your finances) upside down?

In this episode, I sit down with Sharron Moffatt, a mental health trainer and cancer awareness speaker, to talk about the financial and emotional impact of facing cancer while self-employed.

Sharon shares:
✅ Her journey from personal trainer to cancer warrior and the resilience she’s built along the way
✅ The hidden financial costs of cancer, from treatment expenses to the struggle of being self-employed
✅ How her mental health has played a crucial role in navigating this journey
✅ The stigma around cancer in the workplace - and what needs to change
✅ The importance of breast health, regular check-ups, and early detection
✅ Her future plans, including writing a book and possibly taking the TEDx stage

Sharron’s story is one of strength, hope, and determination, and she’s on a mission to raise awareness about the realities of cancer - both emotionally and financially.

Find out more on Sharron's website.

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In today’s episode of Mad About Money, ADHD coach and comedian Suzi Payton shares her journey from being £20,000 in debt to becoming debt-free. 

Suzi opens up about the financial chaos she faced, including avoiding bills, ignoring letters, and living in denial - until the wake-up call that changed everything.

Suzi dives deep into her experience of spiraling debt and how a budgeting exercise with StepChange helped her take control of her finances. She reveals how the journey out of debt wasn’t just about the money - it was about overcoming shame, shifting her mindset, and learning valuable financial lessons that she wishes she'd been taught in school.

Through it all, Suzi’s ADHD and autism were an underlying factor that she didn’t fully understand at the time. Now, she’s using her journey of self-discovery and personal development to help others navigate similar challenges.

Listen to the full episode to hear how Suzi turned her financial life around, and how she’s stayed debt-free by tackling her money mindset head-on.

What's coming up:

• Suzi’s story of living in denial about her debt and the moment she had to face the reality of her finances
• How a budgeting exercise revealed the small expenses adding up to big debt
• The importance of self-awareness, especially in understanding ADHD and autism in relation to financial habits
• How overcoming shame around money and debt was key to Suzi’s journey
• Why traditional education skipped financial literacy, and what we should have been taught instead
• Practical tips for getting out of debt and staying debt-free

Resources Mentioned:

StepChange (budgeting tool and support)

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Can one course really transform your business?

In this episode of Mad About Money, I sit down with the incredible Lisa Johnson to talk about the game-changing impact of learning, mindset shifts, and building a business that works for you.

Lisa and I dive into:
✅ How One to Many helped me pivot and scale my business successfully
✅ Why mindset & visibility are non-negotiables for business growth
✅ How neurodivergent entrepreneurs can build sustainable income streams
✅ The truth about monetizing what you already know (without overcomplicating it!)
✅ Why scaling back can actually create more impact

Whether you're looking to add passive income to your business or just want to hear the real behind-the-scenes of building a business with purpose, this episode is packed with insights you won’t want to miss!

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In this episode, I’m sitting down with the incredible Michelle Norton-Hughes, co-founder of FlyMama and a women's health physiotherapist. Michelle is a total powerhouse when it comes to supporting women through the often unspoken challenges of motherhood. From healing birth trauma to helping women navigate postpartum recovery, Michelle's platform, FlyMama, is changing the game for maternal health.

We chatted about her journey from working with the military as a physiotherapist to launching FlyMama during lockdown - a time when the need for community and support for mums was more crucial than ever. Michelle opens up about the realities of motherhood, the struggles women face that often go unseen, and why trauma-informed care is absolutely essential.

Here’s what we cover in this episode:

• 🔹 The real side of motherhood—not the Instagram-filtered version
• 🔹 How FlyMama is offering a lifeline for women through trauma-informed recovery
• 🔹 The importance of community and why mums need safe spaces to heal
• 🔹 Michelle’s personal journey juggling business, motherhood, and her own healing
• 🔹 How healing is about so much more than just the physical—it's mental and emotional too
  
  

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This week, I'm speaking with business strategist Emma Hine about her experience from corporate life to entrepreneurship, and how her success of building a seven-figure business that ultimately led to burnout and mental health struggles. 

Together, we discuss the importance of passion in business, the need for personal branding and visibility, and the significance of setting boundaries. 

Emma emphasizes the importance of creating a business that aligns with personal values and the journey of helping others avoid the mistakes she made.

KEY TAKEAWAYS: 

• Community and connection are vital for personal and professional growth.
• Mental health can significantly impact business decisions and personal happiness.
• Building a business should align with personal values and lifestyle choices.

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In case you missed it, both Amanda Perry and I were named "sickfluencers" by the Mail Online, after we shared our experiences with the Access to Work grants available to those who are disabled, including those with ADHD.

I was devastated to see my work being slated by the Daily Mail and The Telegraph...

But after my initial big ugly cry, I put on my big girl pants and did what I do best - got visible!

So on today's epsiode, I'm joined by ADHD Business Coach, Mentor and Speaker, Amanda Perry, talking about what we really.

Instead d of letting the "sickfluencer" term stick, we're claiming our title our title as Disability Champions - what we're really here to do in terms of standing up fo those with hidden disabilities, to help them own their diagnosis with pride, and take another step on our mission to helping those with ADHD!

Thanks to everyone that supported us - what first felt like a PR nightmare has actually turned out to be pretty awesome!

More of you have joined the ADHD world, and my mission and values remaind the same: Helping people to understand themselves, and get more visible! (Not more hidden!)

So enjoy this episode - where you can find out all about Access to Work for those with ADHD.

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Natalie Potts, Business Strategist + Messaging Mentor, shares her money story and how she helps entrepreneurs with their messaging to grow their profits.

She tells her story of transitioning from her corporate background to the world of entrepreneurship, including the aspects of careful financial planning when you don't have a guaranteed income, and managing expectations of setting up on your own.

Natalie's on a missing to help entrepreneurs make more money with their messaging by connecting with their ideal clients on an emotional level and building trust through a strong client experience.

And she's gonna share all about how!

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

• "My money story is very much about like: you have to work hard for your money."
• "Knowing what you do want and what you don't want is really important. Knowing what you are and what you're not is key
• Changing limiting beliefs around money and working hard is crucial for success as an entrepreneur.

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In today’s powerful episode of Mad About Money, I sits down with money mindset coach Marcia Wilson to dive deep into the real conversations around money, mindset, and success.

Wer're uncovering the personal money stories that often shape our financial habits (without us even realising), and why understanding your relationship with money is the missing piece if you're trying to grow your income, confidence, or business.

You’ll hear us tallk about:

• Why your money mindset could be holding you back from financial success
• How manifestation and intention-setting really work (and how to use them properly)
• The role of visibility and authenticity when building a business you love
• How to rewrite negative money narratives and shift into a growth mindset
• The importance of value-based spending and charging your worth (without apology!)

They also talk about how audio learning, client experiences, and visualisation practices can create massive transformation... not just in your bank account, but in your self-belief and daily habits too.

If you’re ready to break through your money barriers, ditch scarcity thinking, and step into your full potential, this episode is for you.

👉 Connect with Marcia Wilson: marciawilson.store
Follow her on Instagram: @marciawilsonofficial

✨ If you loved this episode, don’t forget to hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who needs a mindset shift today!

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In this episode of Mad About Money, host Maddy Alexander-Grout interviews Georgina Schute, an ADHD coach. They discuss Georgina's background, her journey with ADHD, and her work with ADHDers in the technology sector. They also touch on topics such as hyperfocus, language learning, and the challenges of working in a corporate environment with neurodivergent conditions. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding and embracing one's neurodivergent traits and finding strategies to navigate the workplace effectively.

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linkedin.com/in/georgina-shutehttps://www.kindtwo.co.uk/

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Maddy Alexander-Grout Consumer and Neurodivergent Money Specialist Interviews Samantha Thomas, The Budget Mum UK. Samantha is a budgeting money educator and influencer.

Samantha shares her journey from having a luxurious lifestyle to facing financial difficulties due to her ex-husband's alcoholism and a failed business. She talks about how she rebuilt her life, became financially independent, and started her own business. Samantha also discusses the importance of teaching children about money and involving them in financial decisions. The conversation touches on the supportive community of money creators and the challenges of being visible on social media platforms like YouTube. In this conversation, Samantha discusses her experience with different social media platforms and how they contribute to her online presence. She talks about the differences between YouTube, TikTok, and Instagram, and how each platform attracts different types of followers. Samantha also shares her insights on monetization and the challenges she has faced with TikTok's rewards program. Additionally, she discusses her Etsy store and her approach to budgeting and saving money. Finally, Samantha talks about her future plans, including upcoming projects and content creation on YouTube.You can find Samantha here:

https://www.youtube.com/c/TheBudgetMumUK

https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/thebudgetmumuk

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Maddy Alexander-Grout Consumer and Neurodivergent Money Specialist Interviews Laura-Ann Moore, a money mindset coach and financial wellbeing speaker.

In this episode, Maddy Alexander-Grout interviews Laura-Ann Moore, a money mindset coach and financial wellbeing speaker. They discuss various topics, including ADHD, their personal money stories, and the importance of investing. Laura-Ann shares her journey from growing up in a low-income family to becoming a successful investor. She emphasises the need to make investing accessible and relatable, especially for women. They also touch on the power of social media in sharing financial knowledge and breaking down barriers. Laura and Maddy discuss the importance of open conversations about money and the empowerment that comes from taking control of one's finances. They share their experiences with investing and the risks involved, as well as the need to change the narrative around money. Laura talks about her investor course and her podcast, Mind Money Soul, which explores the emotional, practical, and spiritual aspects of money. Maddy discusses her Mad About Money app and the community it provides for learning and discussing all things money-related. They also touch on the challenges of being content creators and the importance of enjoying the process.

Find Laura here:

Website: Mind Money Soul

Instagram: Laura Ann Moore (@laura_ann_moore) • Instagram photos and videos

LinkedIn: (1) Laura Moore | LinkedInTikTok: Laura Moore | MONEY & MINDSET (@lauraannmoore) | TikTokDon't forget to check out the Mad About Money App for help with personal finance and money saving ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://madaboutmoneyofficial.co.uk/⁠⁠⁠

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Maddy Alexander-Grout Consumer and Neurodivergent Money Specialist Interviews The Queen Bee Dani Wallace, a IATQB Public Speaking Coach.

It’s time to SHOW UP, WISE UP & RISE UP with The Queen Bee. Former serial self-saboteur, having grown up on the council estates of Preston, Dani has survived the adversity of domestic violence, homelessness and single parenthood to become a leading voice in empowerment and have quickly become one of the most exciting motivational speakers to hit the UK stage in a long time! 

Drawing on over 20 years' experience in business, from presenting & eventing to leadership & management training, Dani uses her knowledge of both traditional employment in the corporate sector and self-employment in the entertainment industry to deliver memorable, inspirational and thought-provoking talks in her own unique and distinctive style bringing truth, humour and a shit ton of practical advice. 

And it is not just her own speaking that Dani specialises in. Through her world class courses, masterminds and VIP experiences Dani helps people all over the world from novices to celebrities, and enthusiastic amateurs to seven-figure earners create incredible talks that help them stand powerfully on stage, reaching more of their ideal audiences and making more money (And who doesn’t want that?!) 

Fearless leader of the I Am The Queen Bee Movement and creator of the Fly Anyway Foundation, Dani helps people the world over Show Up Wise Up and Rise and is a reminder to anyone who enters her orbit that they too, regardless of their journey can #FLYANYWAY! 

Find Dani here:

Website: https://www.iatqb.com 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thequeenbeedanihttps://www.facebook.com/groups/386708721935406 

Linkedln: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iamthequeenbee/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thequeenbeedani/Don't forget to check out the Mad About Money App for help with personal finance and money saving ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://madaboutmoneyofficial.co.uk/⁠⁠

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Maddy Alexander-Grout Consumer and Neurodivergent Money Specialist Interviews Ruth Chipperfield, a goldsmith and jewellery designer.

Ruth Chipperfield is a goldsmith and jewellery designer for Ruth Mary Jewellery. She designs bespoke jewellery, remodels sentimental heirlooms and repairs the unrepairable for people who crave creativity and often don’t know where to start. Ruth loves working out the perfect jewellery design for her clients, when they aren’t sure what they want themselves, and can probably talk about gemstones all day long if you let her.

You can find Ruth here:

www.ruthmary.com

www.facebook.com/ruthmaryjewellery

www.instagram.com/ruthmaryjewellery

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruth-mary-chipperfield/

www.twitter.com/r_m_jewellery

Also, don't forget to check out the Mad About Money App for help with personal finance and money saving ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://madaboutmoneyofficial.co.uk/⁠⁠

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Maddy Alexander-Grout Consumer and Neurodivergent Money Specialist Interviews Amie Barlow. Amie Barlow is an ADHD Functional Fitness Coach.

She helps ADHD career driven women break burn out.

You can find Amie here:

www.instagram.com/amiebfit_

https://linktr.ee/Amiebfit_

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Maddy Alexander-Grout Consumer and Neurodivergent Money Specialist Interviews Kelly-Anne Smith, Founder of SENsational Life.

SENsational Life is a dedicated and compassionate Autism and Parent Support Advisor with over two decades of combined professional and personal experience. With a genuine passion for making a positive impact on the lives of autistic individuals and their families, Kelly-anne has become a trusted resource and advocate in the field.

You can Find Kelly-Anne here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/autismandparentsupportAlso, don't forget to check out the Mad About Money App for help with personal finance and money saving ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://madaboutmoneyofficial.co.uk/⁠

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Maddy Alexander-Grout Consumer and Neurodivergent Money Specialist Interviews The King of Video, Matthew Hughes.

Matthew Hughes is the King of Video.

In 2013 he started his video company that he ran for 7 years creating video and travelling the world, with clients from one man bands through to billion dollar companies.

Fast forward to 2019 and he created the King of Video brand to help small business owners confidently, create, consistent video content that connects with their audience.

In 2021 Matt turned his focus to YouTube and has the goal of getting 1000 small businesses to 1000 subscribers using YouTube as the primary platform to grow their business and make money by strategically creating video content.

You can find out everything you need to know about Matthew here - Speaking - King of Video 👑 🎬Also, don't forget to check out the Mad About Money App for help with personal finance and money saving ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://madaboutmoneyofficial.co.uk/⁠

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Maddy Alexander-Grout Consumer and Neurodivergent Money Specialist Interviews Jane Pangbourne, Founder of Menopausal Not Mad.

Jane is a HRT and menopause expert. Jane aims to help women by simplifying hormones and HRT, as well as female wellness.

Jane founded Menopausal Not Mad ® after over 30 years working within the personal growth and nutrition industry and her own experiences of being peri and now post menopausal. She now helps many thousands across 100+ countries and in 2023 she was awarded by META for her contributions and support to her global community.

Jane is passionate about menopause education, evidence based hormone replacement therapy (HRT) teaching and overall female wellness.

You can find Jane here:

https://www.menopausalnotmad.co.uk/facebook-groups/the-female-health-hrt-community-vip/

Website: www.menopausalnotmad.co.uk

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Maddy Alexander-Grout Consumer and Neurodivergent Money Specialist Interviews Rach Weaven, HR Consultant for SME's.

Rach Weaven, HR Consultant for SME’s without capacity for in-house me, focussing on the positive and proactive to a life the negative and not so nice.

You can find Rach here:

Twitter

https://twitter.com/RachelWeaven_HR

Linked in

http://www.linkedin.com/in/RachelWeavenHR

Webpage

https://face2facehr.com/hr-consultant-swindon/

TikTok

https://www.tiktok.com/@hr_rach?_t=8kmuWowdx4L&_r=1

Facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/face2facehrswindon

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/face2facehrswindon/Also, don't forget to check out the Mad About Money App for help with personal finance and money saving ⁠⁠⁠https://madaboutmoneyofficial.co.uk/

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Maddy Alexander-Grout Consumer and Neurodivergent Money Specialist Interviews Chris Stewart, Founder of The Business Start Up Coach.

Chris is a multiple business owner and founder of The Business Start Up Coach, helping new and aspiring business owners grow their businesses. Having opened his first successful venture back in 2017, Chris went on to launch another 3 businesses across multiple industries and has faced all the highs and lows that business has to offer.

You can find Chris here:

Web – www.thebusinessstartupcoach.co.uk

Facebook – facebook.com/chrisstewartcoach

Linkedin – linkedin.com/thebusinessstartupcoach

Insta – instagram.com/the_business_start_up_coach

Tik Tok – tiktik.com/@chris_stewart_coaching Also, don't forget to check out the Mad About Money App for help with personal finance and money saving ⁠⁠https://madaboutmoneyofficial.co.uk/

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Maddy Alexander-Grout Consumer and Neurodivergent Money Specialist Interviews Melanie Griffiths, a Spiritual Coach and Cancer Thriver.

Melanie is a Cancer Survivor helping women overcome health crises + traumas through spiritual coaching, healing, movement + dance to enjoy living life to the fullest.

You can find Melanie here:

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/melanie.griffiths.58

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/movementmelanie/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melaniegriffiths/

Website: http://www.melaniegriffiths.com

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7OjEBBqXeOqkMje-J6TOgAAlso, don't forget to check out the Mad About Money App for help with personal finance and money saving ⁠https://madaboutmoneyofficial.co.uk/

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Maddy Alexander-Grout Consumer and Neurodivergent Money Specialist Interviews Simon and Greg from Debt Charity StepChange.

In this episode we cover all aspect of debt, when to get help, when to consolidate, how to get support with mental health and debt.

Debt is something lots of people are struggling with, and this episode is useful for anyone who is struggling.

As the UK’s leading debt advice provider, StepChange have helped millions of people take back control of their finances. With 30 years of expertise behind them, their trusted advisors provide the public with free debt help at a time that suits them, offering practical advice and debt solutions where appropriate, whether that’s applying for Breathing Space or specific debt solutions.

Greg Jenkinson is a StepChange debt advisor and has been with the charity for over three years. He’s eager to help spread the message that debt is nothing to be ashamed of and that help is available to anyone struggling with financial issues.

Simon Trevethick is Head of Communications at StepChange, where he's worked for the past five years. He's previously worked at the homelessness charity Crisis and the National Education Union.Also, don't forget to check out the Mad About Money App for help with personal finance and money saving https://madaboutmoneyofficial.co.uk/

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