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In this episode of Life Beyond the Founder, Justin and Molly continue their discussion on succession blind spots, introducing the spectrum of unconscious incompetence, conscious incompetence, and the often-overlooked “unconscious competence,” where a founder’s unique strengths become invisible, unteachable, and organizationally central.

Justin Miller, Co-founder and CEO of Untold, and Molly Heacock, Managing Director and CEO-elect, introduce the Life Beyond the Founder podcast and share lessons from preparing a major leadership transition. They introduce each other’s backgrounds and leadership styles, then discuss why they began planning succession early and how Justin’s thinking evolved from self-preservation to prioritizing the mission above any individual.

What happens when a founder steps aside? In this four-part series, go behind the scenes of a real leadership transition as Untold's Co-Founder and CEO, Justin Miller, prepares to take on a new role in Kenya and Managing Director, Molly Heacock, prepares to take the helm as CEO. Discover the challenges, insights, and strategic decisions that transformed this pivotal moment into an opportunity for organizational growth—and learn how your organization can navigate its own leadership transitions with intention and success.