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Tradwife College Survivor Reviews Yesteryear29 Sep 202601:31:16

In this episode, we review Yesteryear by Caro Claire Burke.


This episode contains spoilers for the entire book Yesteryear. This episode also contains discussions of physical abuse, sexual abuse, child abuse, and religious abuse.


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Introducing the Jordan Harbinger Show29 Sep 202600:01:18
In this mini episode, I would like to recommend The Jordan Harbinger Show. Jordan has some amazing guests on his show, and he has a gift for making complex ideas accessible. I hope you enjoy it as much as I have.
Fundamentalism Survivor Reacts to "Death of the Pastor's Wife"22 Sep 202601:06:58

In this episode, we discuss the documentary "Death of the Pastor's Wife," which chronicles the story of Mica Miller and the abuse she suffered at her husband, Pastor John-Paul Miller of Solid Rock Church in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. This episode contains discussions of sexual, emotional, physical, and spiritual abuse.

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Bold Fundie Predictions! Anti-Doomerism! OCD Treatment! Our Plan to EGOT! It's Our 6th Anniversary!15 Sep 202601:02:56

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In this episode, Sadie discusses her treatment for OCD, Gavi discusses some comments on why Christian Nationalism will fail, and we make predictions on the future of the fundieverse!

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The Lilly Archive Episode08 Sep 202601:23:44

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Today we are joined by Lilly, who runs the Lilly Archive/Fundie Archive content pages! We discuss all things Duggars, Rodrigues, Bates, and other fundies! We hope you enjoy!

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Snake Handling is extremely dangerous!01 Sep 202600:50:50

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In this episode, Sadie teaches us about SNAKE HANDLING! The most INSANE and DANGEROUS Christian subculture. Snake Handling, surprisingly, has actual biblical justification behind it. However it is not widespread due to the extreme danger of handling venomous snakes. Churches that practice snake handling often have members die or suffer serious injury as a result.

James Dobson Bastard Kids episode about snake handling https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/168-snake-handlers-w-chelsea-weber-smith/id1573190999?i=1000666119686


https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-01-22-tm-22814-story.html


https://archive.org/details/serpenthandlingb00burt/page/29/mode/1up


https://archive.org/details/serpenthandlingb00burt/page/48/mode/1up

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Christian Nationalism Is Doomed To Fail25 Aug 202600:42:40

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In this episode, we discuss some of the reasons why Christian Nationalism is a doomed endeavor, as we view its zenith and believe that its ascendance is inevitable.

Our episode about Shiny Happy People season 2

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The Hymen is Vacuum-Sealed for Freshness18 Aug 202600:43:46

In this episode, we discuss Sadie's (as of yet unproven but highly promising) Hypothesis about the risk factors between growing up with religious trauma and experiencing domestic violence as an adult.

Resources:



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Tim Rodrigues' Confession and Arrest, Jill Rodrigues Leaves Social Media 11 Aug 202601:15:52

CW: This episode is about a domestic violence situation that includes discussion of multiple instances of physical and emotional abuse. Some of this discussion is graphic.

Our thoughts are with Heidi, her family, and the Rodrigues children as well as anybody who has suffered intimate partner violence or child abuse under fundamentalism.

Please do not mistake the tone of this video for us minimizing that in any way. What Timothy admitted to is a serious crime against his wife.

In today's episode, we discuss the confession Tim Rodrigues made in a Facebook post, in which he admitted to violently abusing his wife, , Heidi, accused his father, David, of child abuse during his upbringing, and asked for forgiveness as he seeks to regain the trust of his wife and his family.

This post received attention from friends and family members, most notably Heidi's family members who were understandably very angry at him for his abuse of their loved one, for his violation of her privacy in posting details publicly, and for his perceived motivations in publishing his confession, which they saw as highly manipulative.

Following this public fallout, Jill Rodrigues announced her departure from social media.

Sadie is a Certified Domestic Violence advocate in the State of Oregon. The book she recommends, "Becoming Allies," can be found here: https://www.alliesinchange.org/the-becoming-allies-book

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Cult Survivor Reacts to INSANE AND GROSS Purity Culture Sermon05 Aug 202601:18:14

In this episode, We react to a sermon delivered by Eddie Lapina of First Baptist Church of Hammond, Indiana, at their annual Pastors' School event. This sermon also happens to be word-for-word the same sermon delivered by convicted sex criminal and disgraced former FBCH Pastor Jack Schaap nearly 20 years ago.

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Parasocial Relationships are Weird as Heck28 Jul 202600:55:14

In this episode, we discuss the dangers of parasocial relationships and how people in parasocial relationships can come under a pseudo-cultlike control in their desire to be seen or noticed by a person they feel a strong connection to. In this episode we discuss parasocial relationships with celebrities like Taylor Swift, political commentators like Rush Limbaugh, and other notable people like Donald Trump and Elon Musk (as well as Lauren Ash, Sadie's parasocial bestie)

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Pope Leo Throws Down The Hammer!22 Jul 202600:51:54

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In this episode, we discuss the ongoing schism in the Catholic Church, as Pope Leo excommunicates the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) following their decision to disobey him by consecrating new bishops. SSPX is a faction within Catholicism that considers the reforms of the 1960s (Vatican II) to be wrong and heretical. They seek to reverse the Catholic Church's more progressive recent direction.

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Steven Anderson's Shocking and Disturbing Crashout15 Jul 202601:06:16

Over 4th of July Weekend, notorious hate-preacher, abuser, and terminally online bottom feeding degenerate Steven Anderson, pastor of Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe Arizona (In the same strip mall as the McDonald's) declared that he intends to stop preaching if god almighty does not punish his four estranged adult children for escaping from his abuse. In a 15-minute sermon, Anderson airs his own dirty laundry in a manner we found disturbing. In this episode we react to this sermon and give you our thoughts.

Warning: This episode contains extreme and hateful language


00:00 - Intro

08:24 - Dirty Laundry

09:13 - "Why I do not want to continue pastoring"

12:54 - "I can't control what's in my subconscious!"

15:47 - "The haters live in my head rent free"

19:12 - "Come At Me Bro"

20:33 - "Adultery with my wife"

31:49 - "All my friends have left me"

35:30 - Psychological battles

39:22 - Steven Anderson Hates America

41:16 - I WANT TO BE VINDICATED PUBLICLY

46:45 - "I don't want to spend time with my kids anymore"

49:54 - "I want god to punish my children"

55:50 - "I never want to see my kids again"

59:05 - "I will quit pastoring" (Not really)

66:38 - Speaking out WORKS!


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Bill Gothard Is In A Coma (With Dee from Umbrella Rebellion)08 Jul 202601:07:42

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We are joined by Dee from Umbrella Rebellion to discuss the recent news that Bill Gothard had a heart attack and is currently in a coma. This news comes just months prior to an expected deposition in a lawsuit on behalf of IBLP survivors. Dee, an IBLP survivor gives a valuable perspective that many IBLP survivors may relate to.



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Pride Stories with Dinah House-Fire30 Jun 202601:23:40

In this episode, we read listener stories with our wonderful friend, Dinah House-Fire! Thank you to everyone who wrote in!

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Queer Identities and Deconstruction23 Jun 202601:03:08

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In this episode, we discuss the commonalities between searching for a religious (or formerly religious) person during deconstruction and searching searching for an identity as a member of the LGBTQ community. We discuss the pros and cons of labels, as well as the connotations certain labels bring!

Next week we will be reading listener letters with Dinah House-Fire!

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Abusive Relationships and Cults16 Jun 202601:08:08

Sadie takes us through the BITE model and discusses how cult control looks in an abusive relationship and how similar it is to Christian Fundamentalism.


00:00 - Intro

08:00 - Why are cults like abusive relationships?

12:27 - Behavior Control

17:30 - Written and unwritten rules

31:03 - Information Control

46:00 - Thought Control

52:48 - Emotion Control

59:00 - Queer Relationships

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Un-Clobbering the clobber verses 09 Jun 202600:53:28

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In this episode, we go through seven major bible verses that are most often used to promote anti-LGBTQ hate within Christianity and alternate (and in some cases more accurate and reasonable) interpretations. Sadie's theory is that in these verses and that everywhere that "sexual immorality" is mentioned in the bible, there is an element of consent that is often ignored by evangelicals or Christians who would use the bible as justification to hate members of the LGBTQ community. Gavi's belief is that it doesn't matter whether or not these verses refer to homosexuality because discrimination and hatred are against the higher-priority biblical commandments to love thy neighbor.

These passages include Genesis 9, Genesis 19, 1 Corinthians 6, 1 Timothy 1, Romans 1, and Leviticus 18.


00:00 - Happy Pride!

05:25 - What are "Clobber verses?"

07:25 - Genesis 9, Noah's Ark and the Curse of Ham

15:18 - Genesis 19, Sodom and Gomorrah

27:02 - Romans 1, "A reprobate mind"

33:38 - 1 Corinthians 6, 1 Timothy 1

40:04 - Leviticus 18, "It is abomination"

42:40 - Kavod Habriyot, and human dignity

46:50 - Romans 13, "Love Thy Neighbor," and financial ethics

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Anna and Josh Duggar's Prison Emails03 Jun 202601:03:04

In this episode, we discuss the emails sent between Josh and Anna Duggar between Josh's trial and sentencing in late 2021/2022.


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Duggar Vehicle Tier List26 May 202601:16:46

In what is potentially the dumbest piece of content we have ever made, we present to you our duggar vehicles tier list. Yes, we made a tier list of every single vehicle mentioned in the Josh Duggar jail emails obtained by Lily Archive (the GOAT) by FOIA request. If you like this type of brainrotted nonsense, please tell us so we can make more of it.


Full tier list is located here, along with images of all of the cars (the tier list and pictures are not paywalled) https://www.patreon.com/posts/158887713


00:00 - Intro

07:48 - 2013 Toyota Tacoma

09:03 - 2006 Chevrolet HD2500 Duramax

12:12 - 2015 Chevrolet Tahoe

22:32 - Cadillac SRX 2WD

30:02 - Cessna 210 and 410

35:38 - Mitsubishi MU2

36:46 - Kubota Skid Steer and Tractor, Hino Dump truck

41:24 - Duggar motor home

42:38 - Black Limo from Copart

45:07 - BRING BACK THE EL CAMINO

47:36 - Honda Pilot

50:05 - Jana's Land Rover Discovery

58:43 - Duggar Bus

1:01:04 - 2015 Dodge Ram 1500 with hail damage

1:03:34 - 2006 Dodge (wrecked)

1:04:17 - Phenom 100 and helicopter

1:05:58 - Cadillac with a Northstar V8

1:14:44 - Honda dirt bike

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Duggar Prison Emails: Josh's SHOCKING Ignorance about the Bible and coded messages sent in scripture19 May 202601:11:32

This past month, Josh Duggar's prison emails sent between his conviction in December of 2021 and his sentencing in June of 2022 were revealed to the public via FOIA request (Thank You Lily Archive). In this episode, we go through the emails sent between Joshua Duggar and his spiritual advisor, LaCount Reber. Joshua stayed with the Reber family when he was out on bail during his trial. These emails reveal the depths of Josh's ignorance about even the most basic tenets of Christianity. They reveal a lack of curiosity, and an inability to read coded messages sent to him as bible quotations, and an understanding of scripture that can be (charitably) described as rudimentary.

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Fundie Mental Gymnastics: Drinking and Alcohol12 May 202600:46:06

In this episode, we discuss the mental gymnastics Fundies perform to say that drinking alcohol is a sin, even though Jesus turned water into wine. We go into the history of where the fundie taboo around drinking came from, how a social taboo became integrated into a religious doctrine, and why this makes zero sense.

In the Patreon extended edition, Sadie talks about her job working with at risk teens, and helping them identify abusive behaviors and how people can change abusive behaviors. https://www.patreon.com/posts/157928236

Please send your pride stories to LeavingEdenPod@Gmail.Com so we can read them on an episode!


00:00 - INTRO:

04:26 - Josh Duggar Emails

05:48 - SEND YOUR PRIDE STORIES TO US!

06:54 - Jesus' miracles

07:50 - Anti-Alcohol sentiment in Christianity

18:27 - Why did or didn't people drink alcohol in biblical times?

26:20 - Prohibition and the Scopes Monkey Trial

32:27 - Why are fundies stuck in the 1920s?

37:08 - Jesus turned water into... Grape Juice?

38:35 - He turned the water into Lean

39:35 - How the fundies convince themselves that Alcohol is bad

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Fundies take the WORST lessons from King David05 May 202600:49:40

Chad joins us once again to talk about OTHER bible stories about King David and his family, and what lessons fundamentalists take from them. We examine why King David is seen as such a great king despite the many failures of his rule and the mess that was his family. We discuss Absalom's rebellion, Tamar's assault, and the ??? story that is the story of Abashag.



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I went to the "Tradwife College" that Vanity Fair wrote about, and it's SO much worse than you think28 Apr 202600:45:54

In today's episode, Sadie discusses the recent article in Vanity Fair about Hyles-Anderson College, which she attended from the fall of 2011 until the spring of 2013. While this article did a good job of explaining what makes this college so controlling, we felt that this subject would have been better served with a longer-form piece that focused more on the deeper aspects of control rather than JUST the dress code.


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/the-college-for-trad-wives?srsltid=AfmBOopagpD8okZIVAWJdyk7Svyax_rmS8qF4xH0n2dryDQj7eEVtsRL


00:00 - Intro

05:23 - Tradwives

07:43 - Rules for men vs. women

09:43 - MRS Degrees

14:58 - The IFB

20:23 - The Curriculum

28:01 - Bus Routes

33:12 - How Sadie Almost got expelled

38:08 - What the Vanity Fair could have done better

42:48 - Why some people don't make it

44:46 - This is an insular culture

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Caldwell Family Statement/Josh Duggar's Attempt to Get a New Trial (Duggar Update)21 Apr 202600:56:12

In this episode, we discuss Josh Duggar's attempt to vacate his conviction and secure a new trial based on the theory that Caleb William was the guilty party in his crime. We discuss his issues with filing deadlines, as well as how quickly Josh's sentence has gone by.

We also discuss the statement released by the Caldwell Family regarding Joe Duggar's alleged crimes, what this says about their current situation and their relationship with Kendra.

Sadie also talks about Pete Hegseth and the Pulp Fiction fake bible quote.


The Patreon extended version of this episode includes Sadie recording a parody of the 2014 Michelle Duggar robocall in which Michelle Duggar fearmongered about trans people in bathrooms.


Sources for this episode are on this Patreon post (The text of this post is NOT paywalled)

https://www.patreon.com/posts/156103157


00:00 - Intro:

04:16 - A correction and a clarification

07:05 - WE DO NOT SPECULATE OR IDENTIFY THE VICTIM

15:27 - Josh Duggar is trying to get out of prison (AGAIN)

23:58 - Prison Mailbox rule

29:35 - The timing is impeccable and Jack Schaap

34:09 - Josh's sentence is FLYING by

38:14 - Pete Hegseth and the Pulp Fiction "Bible" Quote

46:56 - Caldwell Family Statement




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Are Christians exempt from taxation?14 Apr 202600:37:06

In this episode, we discuss Christian beliefs around taxation, as well as why some fundamentalist Christians like Kent Hovind have opted for a sovereign citizen defense. At the end of the episode, we discuss the creative ways that Jim Bob Duggar has avoided taxation by passing his tax burden off onto his children.

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00:00 - Intro

02:00 - Intro

03:43 - Tax season

04:31 - Kent Hovind, Dinosaur Adventure Land, Structuring

08:34 - Render Unto Caesar

12:05 - Romans 13 and historical context

16:39 - Sovereign citizenship

20:00 - The 14th Amendment

23:14 - Suing the IRS

25:46 - Convicted!

29:50 - Jim Bob Duggar

32:24 - The clobber verses vs. financial ethics

34:04 - Magical Thinking

37:15 - Gavi's Flow Chart

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Christian-ese translated to English: Duggar Family Turns on Joe, Emails Decoded07 Apr 202601:00:28

In this episode, Gavi proves how much he has learned about fundie culture by showing Sadie his INSPIRED AND PRESERVED translation from Fundie/Christian-ese to plain English of the Duggar Jail Emails that were obtained by Lilly Archive using the FOIA. Sadie then provides additional cultural context as well as a few things from these emails that stood out to her.

In the extended Patreon edition of this episode, we discuss Amy Duggar King's April Fools Day post in which she joked about interviewing Bill Gothard.


Sources, images, and additional material are located here (Yes it is a link to Patreon, but these things are not behind a paywall)

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SPECULATING ON THE IDENTITY OF JOE DUGGAR'S VICTIM IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.


00:00 - Intro

01:45 - Sadie was raised Fundie, Gavi was NOT!

03:39 - What do people miss?

05:56 - "Bless Your Heart"

07:50 - "I Love You and Jesus Loves You"

13:04 - The Letter from Austin Forsyth

18:33 - Gavi's Translation of Austin's letter

20:48 - Thank You to our Patrons!

22:22 - Josh Duggar's Jail Emails

26:13 - Chariots of Fire

27:37 - Josh is the Prodigal son

30:07 - Gavi's Translation of the Josh Letter

32:22 - Jim Bob is delusional

35:15 - Jim Bob's letter to Joe

38:27 - King David

40:29 - THE PUN

44:56 - God's Plan for Joe

47:34 - Gavi's Translation of Jim Bob's letter to Joe

50:18 - It will happen again

52:42 - Josh/Anna/John David Letters

56:13 - Will there be a trial? Joe Duggar's Lawyer

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Caldwells Vs. Duggars? The Caldwells raise funds for a legal battle05 Apr 202600:47:08

In this episode, we discuss the GoFundMe that Paul Caldwell (Kendra Duggar's father) posted which has since been deleted.


All of the sources for this episode are located here, on this post on Patreon

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00:00 - Intro

04:12 - Disclaimers

05:13 - The Caldwells' latest moves

08:00 - GoFundMe taken down

08:35 - We have so many questions

10:55 - The Caldwells are not IBLP

12:41 - Sadie's connection with the Caldwells

14:49 - Thank you to our patrons!

16:18 - The Caldwells live in Joe and Kendra's house?

18:08 - The Jailhouse call

18:38 - Why do they need the house back? 20:01 -

The no contact orders are REAL

21:00 - Kicking people out of houses

21:29 - SAFE housing?

23:06 - What do you need legal fees for?

24:06 - Quitclaim Deeds

25:58 - the D word?

27:06 - Is divorce allowed in the fundie world?

31:26 - You never know what is going on in these families

34:41 - Jim Bob is controlling

36:56 - Do any of these motivations make sense?

38:41 - IFB vs. IBLP

45:57 - Which scenario do you think is most likely?

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The Jail Emails/Joe Duggar Pleads Not Guilty: Our Analysis03 Apr 202600:43:28

Today we discuss the latest developments in the Joe Duggar case. Duggar has pleaded Not Guilty to all charges in Florida, has been released on a $600,000 bond, and (we think) is back in Arkansas.

YouTuber Lily Archive has released numerous phone calls as well as emails sent to Joe Duggar while he was in jail in Arkansas. She obtained this material using a FOIA request (she has shown provenance). These are extremely telling. We give our impressions on this material, especially focused on the emails.

Lily Archive's FOIA request documentation


https://www.reddit.com/r/DuggarsSnark/comments/1sag5mu/proof_of_joes_jail_emails_i_got_via_foia_request/

Junior_Wolf9331's pictures of Jim Bob and Joe at the airport

https://www.reddit.com/r/DuggarsSnark/comments/1s9261f/jim_bob_joseph_at_panama_city_fl_airport/


UPDATE: Between the time of filming and release of this episode, Washington County District Court sent me the documents that were published by Katie Joy as well as others, and they are the same documents, they are real.


00:00 - Intro

04:23 - DISCLAIMERS (We might be wrong)

05:29 - Joe Duggar pleads NOT GUILTY and is out on bond

08:06 - Will there be a trial?

09:30 - What will the defense strategy be?

11:45 - Jim Bob/Michelle Duggar statement

12:30 - Josh Duggar vs. Joe Duggar favoritism

13:45 - Getting the confession excluded

17:08 - Thank you to our patrons!

18:36 - The Phone Calls/Lily Archive

24:40 - The Emails

24:50 - Jim Bob's Email

26:55 - King David and Joseph

32:27 - Josh is the smartest Duggar?

35:21 - Austin Forsyth's email

37:52 - Anna Duggar's email

40:45 - It's all coming apart

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Shiny Happy People Star joins us to talk about Duggar arrests, fake(?) documents, and IBLP31 Mar 202601:04:12

Shiny Happy People star Chad Harris joins us on this episode to discuss the latest developments in the Joe/Kendra Duggar cases. We discuss the potentially fake documents published by Katie Joy of the YouTube Channel "Without a Crystal Ball," the Joe/Kendra Duggar phone call, statements made by Jinger/Jeremy, and Jason/Maddie. In the third segment we answer listener questions about the arrests, about the Duggars, and about the IBLP in general.

These are the two appeals to loss of parental rights cases we mentioned in the episode.


https://law.justia.com/cases/arkansas/court-of-appeals/2025/cv-24-747.html

https://law.justia.com/cases/arkansas/court-of-appeals/2025/cv-25-38.html


00:00 - Intro

01:44 - Subscribe to our Patreon!

02:20 - NO VICTIM SPECULATION

02:45 - Katie Joy and the fake(?) court documents

04:50 - What is a trusted source?

08:04 - Josh got visitation with his kids

11:02 - Thank you to our patrons!

12:48 - Statement from Jinger and Jeremy

15:40 - Statement from Jason and Maddie

19:50 - IBLP fails young men

22:00 - Phone call between Joe and Kendra

24:58 - Kendra is in a difficult spot

29:25 - Every home is a cult and every father is a cult leader

30:23 - Why do we talk about this? The stakes are high!

34:53 - Listener Questions! 35:17 - 6th amendment rights

37:35 - Why did Jim Bob want to be on TV?

40:47 - Child Endangerment Clarification

45:08 - What if the Duggars were allowed to date?

47:29 - Gothardism and Jim Bob's trauma

53:54 - Why are all the Duggar daughters social media influencers?

55:35 - Did Jim Bob and Michelle reconsider their choices?

55:58 - Why do the women stay?

57:50 - How to bring down the IBLP

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Kendra Duggar charged/Duggar family statements/Will there be a trial?24 Mar 202600:56:22

In this episode, we discuss the continuing fallout from Joseph Duggar's arrest for child molestation, including Kendra Duggar's Child Endangerment/False Imprisonment charges, our breakdown of these charges, family statements made by/on behalf of Duggar family members, and our speculation on whether or not this case will go to trial.

In the extended patreon edition, we discuss in greater detail our impressions of Amy Duggar after our (limited) interactions with her when she was a guest on our show while promoting her book.

CW for discussion of CSA and CSAM

AT NO POINT will we be speculating on the identity of the victim.


02:00 - Kendra Duggar Arrested!

02:52 - Please subscribe and join our Patreon!

04:28 - Tonitown police file charges

06:45 - What "Unrelated" means

07:40 - WE ARE NOT LAWYERS

07:55 - Endangering the Welfare of a Minor

10:05 - New Information about Joe's Confession

11:40 - Our Original Theory

12:22 - Locks on the doors?

13:40 - Unsecured Firearms

14:40 - False Imprisonment

14:50 - Jason does not use power tools safely

16:30 - IBLP and Cult of Personality

16:50 - Magical Thinking

17:35 - How serious are Kendra's charges?

24:44 - Thank you to our Patrons!

26:19 - Jill and Derick Dillard's statement

29:48 - Jessa and Ben Seewald's Statement

30:22 - Amy Duggar King's Statement

31:41 - Amy's book plug

35:40 - Access and Accountability

37:59 - People who deconstruct and stay Christian

40:40 - Josh Duggar's Statement

46:03 - Joseph Duggar's Phone Call

47:20 - Jim Bob is running everything

48:44 - Will there be a trial?

49:04 - Can you imagine being Michelle Duggar?

51:17 - No statement from Jim Bob and Michelle

52:27 - We hope the victim's name never comes out

54:55 - Megyn Kelly is not a real journalist

55:57 - We hope the stories of survivors continue to be taken seriously

57:29 - Should Christians pay taxes?

55:29 - Should Christians pay taxes?

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Joe Duggar has been arrested20 Mar 202600:54:04

n this special episode, we discuss the charges filed against former 19 Kids and Counting/Counting On star Joseph Duggar. Duggar is accused of committing Lewd and Lascivious Behavior, involving unlawful sexual activity with a minor. He has been taken into custody. The alleged molestation occurred some time in 2020. In this episode we discuss everything that we currently know, everything we don't know, the circumstances of the abuse, and then we answer listener questions.

This episode contains discussions of child sexual abuse as well as discussion of Joseph's brother Josh's 2021 trial and conviction for possession of CSAM. This episode is not appropriate for children.

Nowhere in this episode do we speculate about the identity of the victim, and we will not allow comments that do.


Facebook post from Bay County Sheriff's Office

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1EoDDDy9qY/


Reddit post with pictures of Joe and Kendra at Panama City Beach dated to October 11

https://www.reddit.com/r/DuggarsSnark/comments/1rxk6ty/my_parents_2020_beach_vacation/


Oxford University article about genetic predisposition to being an abuser

https://www.psych.ox.ac.uk/news/sex-offending-genes-more-important-than-family-environment


02:00 - Joe Duggar has been arrested

02:54 - Welcome to our show

03:10 - CW for CSA and CSAM discussion

04:20 - Consider joining our Patreon!

05:00 - BCSO Facebook Post

06:50 - Poor Kendra

07:53 - What is Joe charged with?

08:36 - What is a Life Felony?

09:46 - Joe's Apology

11:35 - Purity Pledge

12:34 - Will there be a trial?

17:48 - Thank you to our Patrons!

19:17 - What is the timeline?

20:04 - Raid on the Duggar car lot

20:45 - Counting the Cost by Jill Duggar Dillard

22:26 - Holy Disruptor by Amy Duggar King

24:20 - Jim Bob lied to the family

24:55 - Reddit Pictures on the beach

25:30 - Who was in Panama City Beach?

27:40 - Apologies to the victim's father?

28:15 - Homeland Security and US Marshals

31:27 - Kendra was pregnant

31:50 - Why did Joe Apologize?

32:50 - You are your father's property

34:20 - Did Kendra know?

35:12 - Will Kendra stay or go?

35:30 - Sadie's angry rant

37:43 - Question 1: Have we seen signs from Joe? Joe/Kendra age gap

38:54 - Sadie attended the wedding of a child bride

41:15 - Question 2: How does this keep happening in this family?

42:46 - Women are property, like livestock

44:50 - Limiting access and adding accountability prevents abuse

47:07 - Question 3: We know nothing about the victim or their family

48:11 - Question 4: Did this follow the same pattern as Josh's cover-up?

49:40 - Questions 5 and 6, Social media and Can Kendra Leave because Joe admitted his crime?

52:01 - Question 7: Purity Culture

52:42 - Question 8: Will this change fundie culture?

54:14 - Question 9: Genetics and Grandpa Duggar

55:35 - If there is a trial we will cover it!

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What do they teach at Cult College?17 Mar 202600:45:04

In today's episode, Sadie tells us all about Hyles-Anderson College, the fundamentalist cult bible college that she enrolled in as an 18-year-old. We discuss the reason why a cult would want to have a college, the history of the school, what gets taught in classes at Hyles-Anderson, the school rules, and the predatory financial programs the school uses to keep students from dropping out or leaving.


02:00 - What do they teach you at cult college?

02:30 - Marriage and Motherhood degree

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03:36 - Why do cults need a college?

04:30 - Hyles-Anderson College

04:53 - Listen to Sadie's interview on Preacher Boys Podcast with Eric Skwarczynski

05:05 - Jack Hyles

05:25 - Russell Anderson

05:55 - Other Christian Colleges were TOO SOFT

06:05 - Fundamentalism youth pipeline

06:50 - Boot Camp for Christian workers

08:15 - Business model of Hyles-Anderson College

10:00 - The IFB connection to the unjustified killing of Breonna Taylor

10:15 - HAC is unaccredited

15:47 - Thank you to all of our patrons!

17:12 - What is in the curriculum?

17:40 - YOUR BODY IS NOT YOUR OWN BY JOBETH HOOKER

21:40 - Scum Manifesto

22:20 - Christian Womanhood

23:12 - Preparation for Marriage Class

23:40 - David and Jonathan

24:20 - Give your husband a standing ovation when he comes home or he will cheat on you with his secretary

26:54 - Other classes at cult college

27:30 - HAC is basically Sea Org/Scientology

28:40 - Bible Class

30:13 - Steven Anderson and the NIFB

32:45 - The rules of cult college

34:35 - Dress Code

38:40 - Demerit system

38:55 - Tiered justice system and nepotism

39:40 - Sadie almost got expelled!

41:40 - How are the rules enforced?

42:10 - The Jericho Plan

42:55 - This scheme is probably illegal

43:50 - The Bait and Switch









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5 ultra-specific rules of Christian Fundamentalism that make no sense10 Mar 202600:39:42

Sadie takes us through the five categories of Crazy Fundie Rules, and how these rules affect your life when you are trying to live by them. Some of them have biblical justifications, some of them are completely made up by some pastor somewhere and ended up being widely adopted. Fundie pastors use these rules as a way to physically and psychologically control church members, and they can be quite draconian.

What are the most arbitrary rules that your church had growing up? Let us know in the comments!


02:00 - Is it a sin to walk down the beer aisle in the grocery store?

02:23 - Proverbs 23:31

02:40 - Genesis 3:1-3

03:07 - Crazy Fundie Rules

03:52 - Join our Patreon!

04:37 - The 5 Categories

05:40 - Category 1

05:50 - Prohibition on Tattoos

06:55 - Carl Lentz

07:12 - Pete Hegseth

07:22 - Jewish law vs. Christian Interpretation

10:30 - Joyce Meyer's tattoo

11:47 - Thank you to our patrons!

14:13 - Deuteronomy 22:5

16:45 - Deadmau5 and the Ferrari

17:02 - Why the Duggar Daughters didn't wear pants

18:15 - Coulottes vs. JNCO Jeans

19:59 - Jealousy is a sin, wanting to do a sin is a sin

21:30 - Fundie Women find a way to rebel

24:00 - Visibly religious people get harassed the most!

26:11 - Category 2

26:31 - Being suspected of sinning is a sin

27:04 - Jack Schaap's crimes

28:27 - Going to the movies is a sin

29:01 - Bee Movie and There Will Be Blood were in the movie theater at the same time

30:14 - Walking down the beer aisle is a sin

30:49 - Category 3

32:30 - Going to Six Flags is a sin

34:17 - Category 4

34:36 - Doing anything that you want to do is a sin

35:00 - Teen Soulwinning is the worst

36:00 - Holy Guilt Trip Batman

36:43 - Wanting a snickers bar is a sin

37:45 - Great Britain is full of heathens

39:00 - Wanting a pretty wife is a sin

40:00 - It is a sin to not be miserable

40:40 - Category 5

41:00 - Hosiery

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Are we living in a SIMULATION?03 Mar 202600:48:38

Today, Gavi FINALLY gets to talk about his favorite topic, Jean Beaudrillard's "Simulacra and Simulation," which explains Hyperreality. "The Matrix" film is allegorical to the postmodern condition of Hyperreality. We discuss examples of simulacra, Hyperreality, and the history of how we (in the western canon) came to view the world this way. We discuss simulated reality as it relates to christian fundamentalism and the US.

If you have any thoughts, opinions, or questions about this topic (or corrections) please let us know either by comment or by emailing us at LeavingEdenPod@gmail.com! We would love to do a listener responses episdoe!


02:00 - Intro

02:20 - Black Mirror San Junipero

03:15 - The Matrix

03:30 - Elon Musk

03:48 - Mark Zuckerberg and the Metaverse

04:10 - Please subscribe to our Patreon!

04:40 - Media Theory and Philosophy

05:17 - I'm sorry for mixing up SimulaCRA and SimulaCRUM

05:47 - Jean Baudrillard's "Hyperreality"

06:04 - Simulacra and Simulation

07:10 - First Order Simulacrum

07:40 - Second Order Simulacrum

07:55 - Third Order Simulacrum, Hyperreality

08:29 - Fourth Order Simulacrum, or Pure Simulation

08:50 - Alexander Hamilton to Scamilton is Hyperreality

11:07 - Christian Nationalism and Hyperreality

12:54 - Hyperreality and Pure Simulation are curated reality

13:30 - Did Sadie grow up in a simulation?

13:50 - Kim Kardashian's butt broke the internet

14:54 - The 6 7 meme is proof that we are living in a simulation

15:30 - Doot Doot 6 7 by Skrilla

15:50 - Lamello Ball

16:00 - The 6 7 kid is Hyperreality and the meme is pure simulation

17:19 - Brainrot is hyperreality

18:50 - Thank you to our patrons!

20:17 - The Civil War and the birth of Modernism

21:50 - Modernist themes, truth comes from struggle and effort

22:17 - Upton Sinclair, The Jungle

22:30 - John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath

22:50 - Gone With the Wind

24:00 - Little Women

24:34 - The Civil War, Transcendentalism, Naturalism

25:05 - The birth of postmodernism

25:15 - Dada art movement (dadaism)

25:26 - Anything can be a source of truth

25:30 - The gifts of postmodernism, Civil rights, LGBT rights, Women's Lib movement

25:55 - World War 2 and the nuclear age

27:10 - Love is Blind, Kobe Bryant, Fresh off the Boat, Scottish Independence referendum

28:45 - Absurdism, Memes, and Breadtube Spongebob

29:04 - The drawbacks of postmodernism

30:00 - Hyperreality, 9/11

31:22 - Loss of sense of self

32:04 - Michael Jackson, Prince, Robin Williams, George Carlin, Jesus, AI Deepfakes

32:35 - Leonard Cohen

32:50 - Bag Culture, Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce, Jason Kelce, Commercials

34:35 - Prince Harry and Meghan Markle

36:28 - Please email us!

37:01 - Our current state of Hyperreality

37:31 - Doctors vs. Anti-Vaxxers and influencers

37:41 - Teachers vs. Homeschoolers

38:07 - Doomerism

38:17 - It's going to be OK?

38:38 - The early church

38:50 - Jesus was a guy (probably?)

39:11 - The Disciples (first order Simulacrum)

39:22 - The Council of Nicaea (Second order Simulacrum)

39:40 - Church Tradition (Third Order Simulacra, or Hyperreality)

40:10 - Culture War/Kid Rock Turning Point USA halftime show

40:45 - Growing up in a cult vs. growing up in a simulation

41:04 - Destruction of the 2nd Temple happened, Revelation is a first order simulacrum

41:35 - Millerism, Adventism, Premillennial Pretribulationism are second order simulacra

41:45 - Protocols of the elders of Zion, A Thief in the Night, and Left Behind are all third order simulacra or Hyperreality

42:12 - The Holocaust, McCarthyism and the Red Scare, Satanic Panic, Q Anon, January 6, 2025 Rapture Hoax, are mass delusion brought on by pure simulation

44:20 - Hyperreality peaked in 2020

44:45 - The end of COVID-19 and the rise of AI

45:04 - What is coming next?

45:45 - AI CEOs are grifters

46:32 - Minor League Baseball

47:10 - 2020, Social Unrest, George Floyd protests, Anti-Mask/Vaxx

48:14 - Transcendentalism, Naturalism, humanity's relationship with nature, Oliver Wendel Holmes, Henry David Thoreau, Walt Whitman

50:29 - The next movement

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Do we live in a Post-Truth society?24 Feb 202600:37:42

In this episode, Sadie takes us through two different theories of truth, and what it means for a statement to be true or not true. In using these two theories of truth, we discuss how anti-trans crusaders like Matt Walsh or Christian fundamentalist biblical literalists use bait-and-switch tactics to distort what their followers perceive as the truth. These bad faith arguments can be avoided by avoiding circular logic traps.


00:00 - Intro

00:47 - Patreon.Com/LeavingEdenPodcast is where the bonus content is!

01:30 - Is a hot dog a sandwich?

01:50 - We support trans people

02:05 - What is a post-truth society?

02:20 - Authoritarian populists like Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin

03:00 - Postmodernism

03:44 - The Philosophical Definition

04:39 - What is a woman?

05:00 - Caitlyn Jenner

05:30 - The correspondence theory of truth

06:45 - The coherence theory of truth

08:30 - Thank you to our wonderful patrons!

10:00 - Truth conforms to the entire ecosystem of other things that are true

10:10 - What is a sandwich?

10:54 - Matt Walsh argues in bad faith

12:45 - Bioessentialist transphobia does not hold up to scrutiny

13:22 - The King James Bible

15:15 - Hateful comments on social media

16:10 - The Bible is true because the bible says that the bible is true

16:20 - Cult control tactics and brainwashing

19:30 - Atheism vs. Religion debate

20:00 - Is personal experience evidence?

20:55 - Realism and Anti-Realism

22:22 - anti-realism

23:58 - Big questions

24:38 - Color theory

25:18 - Berlin and Kay's theory of Basic Color Terms

26:58 - WHAT COLOR IS SADIE'S HAIR?

28:27 - Sadie is the proof

30:03 - John Calvin profile pic

30:53 - Sadie once had a man

31:08 - Capitalism is the root of all christian misogyny (not actually)

33:38 - What is proof?

36:04 - Are we living in a simulation?

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The Insane Reason Why Fundies ONLY Use The King James Bible17 Feb 202600:57:46

In this episode, Sadie takes us through the bizarre reasoning behind Fundamentalism's stipulation that the King James version is NOT ONLY the "best" version of the bible in English, but that it is actually not a translation, but God's own words, just as valid as the original texts in Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic. We also discuss how this belief leads to other fundie beliefs like quiverfull, and women wearing only skirts and no pants.


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The Purity Culture Fundie Dating Manual MORE EXTREME Than I Kissed Dating Goodbye14 Feb 202600:53:40

In this episode, we review "Dating With a Purpose," which is an IFB purity culture dating manual targeted at teens and young adults in the IFB and at Hyles-Anderson college. It was written by Jack Schaap, who later went to prison for sexually abusing a child who was a student at the high school where he was chaplain.

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Winning McDonald's to Jesus10 Feb 202601:01:12

Sadie Carpenter tells us all about Soul Winning, the IFB practice of knocking on doors in order to witness to people and to get them to join your church. She tells us stories of trapping kids in the McDonald's PlayPlace, getting guns pulled on her, and we read through a soulwinning textbook that teaches how to witness to a Jewish person! We hope you enjoy!


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Fundies YEARN for the year 100 AD03 Feb 202600:44:24

In this episode, we discuss what the early church actually was, and how Christianity was formed as much by Paul as it was by Jesus.

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  1. Tabor, J. D. (2013). Paul and Jesus: how the Apostle transformed Christianity. Simon & Schuster.
  2. Tabor, J. (2025, June 10). The quest for the historical paul. Biblical Archaeology Society. https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/people-in-the-bible/the-quest-for-the-historical-paul/

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What Is Fundamentalism?27 Jan 202600:58:18

In this episode we discuss the history of (small f) fundamentalism and how it became (capital F) Fundamentalism that we see today.


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How Do Cults Work?20 Jan 202600:54:18

In this reintroduction episode, we discuss how cults work with examples from Sadie's life.


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The Mary Cosby Jim Jones Connection (Mary Cosby Part 3)12 Jan 202601:24:40

In Part 3 of our series on Mary Cosby, we discuss the theological reasons why people believe that she is god. We discuss the direct link between Mary Cosby and Jim Jones. We also discuss the sketchiness surrounding the businesses owned by her and her church, the church's organization, and how its hard turn into a coercive cult was inevitable.


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We Were Cut Out of the Mary Cosby documentary (Mary Cosby Parts 1 and 2)05 Jan 202601:43:00

In the fall of 2024, we contributed to a streaming documentary focused on Faith Temple Pentacostal church in Salt Lake City Utah, and its first lady, Mary Cosby, who is a cast member on the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. This documentary was released by TLC as "Cult of the Real Housewife." Our contributions to this documentary were not included, and we believe that this documentary did a disservice to its audience by not going into detail on the SHOCKING things that we found.

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Watch Night 202529 Dec 202501:45:30

In this episode, we are joined by Dinah House-Fire and Chad Harris to give out the Gifts of the Spirit awards! This awards are based on the gifts of the holy spirit and given to individuals who embodied these gifts throughout the year. These awards include:

The Wisdom Award

The Knowledge Award

The Faith Award

The Healing Award

The Miracles Award

The Prophecy Award

The Discernment Award

The Tongues Award

The Interpretation Award!

We hope you guys had a good time with us this year and we can't wait to see you next year!

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Ep. 259: The Future Of The Pod15 Dec 202501:01:12

In this episode, we discuss the future of the podcast, we read a letter from a listener who was doxxed by Libs of Tiktok, and we discuss the latest study about religious observance in the United States from Gavi's favorite Pew Research

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/12/08/religion-holds-steady-in-america/



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Ep. 258: Fundie Update: Morgan Olliges' online course, Karissa Collins, and Kelly Havens08 Dec 202501:10:32

In this episode, we catch up with some fundie influencers, including Morgan Olliges, who has recently released an online course about how to cope with a husband that leaves you alone in the wilderness, Karissa Collins many spellings and pronunciations of Yahoosooshooahaha, and Kelly Havens new e-commerce business.


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Ep. 257: Riley Gaines Lied About Everything02 Dec 202501:26:32

In this episode, we discuss the recent expose on Riley Gaines, the former University of Kentucky swimmer who has become the face of the anti-trans women in sports political agenda. While Gaines is no doubt a talented swimmer, the story that she told of victimization at the hands of U Penn's Lia Thomas was largely fabricated. However, this story became a divisive issue that helped propel Donald Trump to a second presidential term.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/11/riley-gaines-anti-trans-lia-thomas-ncaa-trump/

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Ep. 256: Laughing Through The Pain: The Unannouncement18 Nov 202500:59:40

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In this episode, we cope with our serious disappointment over our current situation (don't worry we will tell you guys eventually when we figure out what it is that we are doing next) by hanging out with Chad Harris and making up some FAKE news stories that COULD have been our big announcement (these stories aren't real)

We hope you guys like this, and if you don't we also understand because we didn't really want to record last week either, but we had a good time.

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Ep. 255: Holiday Survival Guide: MAGA Family Edition10 Nov 202501:28:16

In this episode, we discuss attending upcoming Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays with MAGA or right wing/conservative family members, as well as some best practices for keeping the peace and keeping your own sanity.


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