Explore every episode of the podcast Leaders Unplugged
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| Welcome to Leaders Unplugged! | 21 Mar 2025 | 00:30:49 | |
Welcome to the inaugural episode of Leaders Unplugged, presented by IMD and hosted by IMD President David Bach and Felix Zeltner. To kick things off, David and Felix discuss the key learnings from David's recent travels that took him from the World Economic Forum to the World Government Summit, to business school conferences in Las Vegas and Lisbon, and back to IMD's home in Lausanne. Also a Nestlé Professor of Strategy and Political Economy, David shares his key takeaways, encounters with leaders that have inspired him, and what he is most optimistic about in these very uncertain times. Leaders Unplugged features real talk with the impactful. Candid, honest, actionable, and fresh from behind the scenes. It is presented by the International Institute for Management Development in collaboration with Remote Daily. This episode was edited by Rabea Debus with music by Moritz Katz, and produced by Brendon Hanley and Felix Zeltner. The executive producer of IMD Podcasts is Delia Fischer. Enjoy listening to this new biweekly series and other IMD podcasts here: https://www.imd.org/ibyimd/podcasts/ Send feedback to: content@imd.org | |||
| Episode 3: David Bach with Stuart DeCew and Geraldine Matchett | 17 Apr 2025 | 00:38:23 | |
Welcome to the third episode of Leaders Unplugged, presented by IMD, and hosted by IMD's president David Bach, together with Remote Daily's founder Felix Zeltner. Leaders Unplugged is real talk with the impactful – candid, honest, and fresh from behind the scenes. Today, we take you behind the scenes of a recent gathering led by the World Business Council for Sustainable Development together with IMD, where David sat down with two sustainability experts and leaders:
“You don't make the climate case with compliance — you make it with innovation", says Stuart and claims that sustainability roles have to shift from reporting to investing, while Geraldine takes it a step further: “If you're truly going to lead transformation, you can't do it with an inside view of your company. You need to be much more outward-focused. Sustainability is an essential part of your license to operate.” They unpack the rise of “quiet activists", organizations that stay on course on sustainability while deliberately flying under the radar, making hard choices about what matters most. As Geraldine puts it: ”We officially say this matters a bit less”. And the conversation goes beyond challenges to highlight the immense opportunities in the sustainability space — from unlocking innovation to attracting and retaining top talent. Tune in for a fast-paced, thought-provoking journey into why sustainability isn’t a side topic any more — it’s the strategy. Enjoy listening to this new biweekly series and other IMD podcasts here: https://www.imd.org/ibyimd/podcasts/ Send feedback to: content@imd.org | |||
| Episode 2: David Bach and UBS CEO Sergio Ermotti | 07 Apr 2025 | 00:32:34 | |
Welcome to the second episode of Leaders Unplugged, a bi-weekly podcast by IMD, hosted by IMD President David Bach with Felix Zeltner. In this wide-ranging chat, David goes from the global to the personal with one of the world’s most prominent bankers: UBS CEO Sergio Ermotti.
At a recent event in Lausanne, Sergio Ermotti joined Bach on stage and put a host of burning questions and discussion points into a larger perspective. Taken straight from the headlines, Ermotti gives his impressions on AI, cryptocurrencies, tariffs, the UBS-Credit Suisse merger, and how Europe should respond to the changing global situation.
Enjoy listening to this new biweekly series and other IMD podcasts here: https://www.imd.org/ibyimd/podcasts/ Send feedback to: content@imd.org | |||
| David Bach: Why we all benefit from America’s top universities | 01 May 2025 | 00:35:45 | |
The situation in the US is in stark contrast to the drive for investment in research and education seen in the Gulf region. Fresh from a visit to Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and the Emirates, Bach was impressed by the vibrancy, optimism, and can-do attitude on display.
Another key area the Trump administration has turned a spotlight on is leadership by intimidation and insult. In reality, Elon Musk and his ilk have been successful despite their leadership style and not because of it, says Bach. Successful leaders are the ones who have “built long-term sustainable enterprises in which people feel a strong sense of belonging, where they're motivated, and where they're inspired.” “Leadership is about two things: direction and energy. If you’re not doing both, you’re not leading.” For a truly inspirational leader, concludes Bach, look no further than Ted Lasso, the fictional soccer coach on Netflix.
Tune in now to explore the leadership challenges reshaping global talent, innovation, and trust. | |||
| What if Europe’s biggest risk isn’t war – but running out of power? | 07 Oct 2025 | 00:43:40 | |
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| From wake-up call to global coalition: How Maersk is pushing shipping toward net zero | 10 Sep 2025 | 00:42:22 | |
How Maersk is rewriting the rules of shipping decarbonization – through collaboration, purpose, and placing big bets on the fuels of the future. What happens when one of the world’s largest shipping companies decides not to wait for regulation – but to lead by collaboration? In this episode of Leaders Unplugged, IMD President David Bach sits down with Morten Bo Christiansen, Senior Vice President and Head of Energy Transition at Maersk, and Bo Cerup-Simonsen, CEO of the Mærsk Mc-Kinney Møller Center for Zero Carbon Shipping, to unpack one of the most ambitious transformations in business: the race to net-zero-emission shipping. From ordering vessels with dual-fuel methanol engines to securing long-term bio- and e-methanol offtake agreements, both leaders share how they’re building a collaborative approach that includes the entire shipping ecosystem, tackling regulatory battles, and dealing with the fact that only about 2% of Maersk's customers currently pay the green premium. “The only way to avoid the complexity that we have today, would be to do nothing“, Morten Bo Christiansen says, “and that’s not really an option.” | |||
| “It’s time for a complete reset” – Maria Vassalou on the future of investing | 07 Aug 2025 | 00:32:45 | |
Global rules are being rewritten. Pictet’s Maria Vassalou joins David Bach to discuss BRICS, AI, aging societies – and why leaders must rethink everything they thought they knew. As global trade rules unravel, AI accelerates, and demographics shift dramatically, what should business leaders do? What do they need to rethink, and where should they invest? Listen to this thought-provoking episode of Leaders Unplugged with the Head of the Pictet Research Institute, Maria Vassalou, and learn how to challenge your assumptions – from China’s long game and the rise of BRICS, to what aging societies and AI mean for future growth. In conversation with IMD’s president David Bach, Maria Vassalou shares a powerful message: Globalization, free trade, and world peace – the principles most of us have built their decisions on – are all being challenged, she says. “And the idea that we can continue doing what we have been doing seems… not a very good idea.” Her advice: The winners of the next three decades will lead with “strategic investments in demographics, technology diffusion, and production efficiencies.”
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| Why Democracies Die – and What Business Leaders Must Do | 24 Jul 2025 | 01:04:20 | |
Harvard’s Daniel Ziblatt explores how democracies fail and why business leaders must act now before it’s too late.
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| “We were so scared of our IPO”: Leaders Unplugged with former On-CEO Marc Maurer | 08 Jul 2025 | 00:42:15 | |
Marc Maurer didn’t build ON by playing it safe. In this live conversation with IMD’s Alyson Meister, the outgoing Co-CEO explains why betting on purpose, rejecting hype, and ignoring the industry playbook paid off:
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| From the classroom to the boardroom – why do IMD alumni lead differently? | 02 Jun 2025 | 00:26:29 | |
Three alumni. Three decades. One question: What makes IMD’s leadership journey so lasting? What do a former Olympic basketball player, a Japanese strategist in London, and a Swiss energy executive have in common? IMD. In this special MBA reunion episode of Leaders Unplugged, IMD President David Bach welcomes - John Hatch (MBA 1990) - Kazumi Nakayama (MBA 2015) - Aurore Amaudruz (MBA 2020) for an honest, funny, and reflective conversation on what IMD taught them - and how it shaped the leaders they’ve become. From pandemic pivots to circular economy lookouts, the three alumni explore how IMD’s emphasis on self-leadership, global perspective, and shared values continues to influence their careers. “I provide a secure base for the team I work with,” says Aurore. “That’s what IMD brought me.” Adds Kazumi: “My perspective matters. That was a discovery.” And John, now a sustainability board leader, reflects on the future leaders: "We're going to be faced with a generational change which is just going to hold us to account much differently than what we're currently being pressured." Tune in for an unusual intergenerational reunion that explores how to lead differently. | |||
| How do deans lead when the world turns upside down? | 19 May 2025 | 00:38:28 | |
Global deans on leading through turbulence — and why optimism, not certainty, is the real power in today’s business education. In today’s episode, IMD President David Bach discusses how the rapid global shifts of the moment impact leadership education, with two of his peers: – Catherine Duggan, Dean of the University of Cape Town Graduate School of Business Duggan challenges prevailing assumptions about the Global South, calling African leadership “a masterclass in managing volatility.” Dahl reveals how political instability in the US has made Canada re-evaluate its economic dependence – and sparked a surprising boom in university applications. This episode is packed with unplugged moments, like when Duggan compares running a business in Africa to “playing video games on hard mode,” and Dahl admits: “We’re not teaching students how to fall down.” If you’re in leadership, higher education, or just trying to make sense of this moment in history – don’t miss this one. Leaders Unplugged features real talk with the impactful. Candid, honest, actionable, and fresh from behind the scenes. It is presented by IMD in collaboration with Remote Daily. | |||
| Hapag Lloyd CEO: What does resilience look like when trade routes break? | 08 Jan 2026 | 00:30:08 | |
In this episode of Leaders Unplugged, IMD President David Bach speaks with Rolf Habben Jansen, CEO of Hapag-Lloyd, about leading a global shipping giant through geopolitical tension, climate pressure, and permanent uncertainty, into the future of global trade.
Rolf Habben Jansen – Chief Executive Officer, Hapag-Lloyd AG
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| Walmex CEO Guilherme Loureiro: What happens when leaders admit they're dinosaurs? | 17 Nov 2025 | 00:52:50 | |
Walmex CEO Guilherme “Gui” Loureiro on reinventing Walmart Mexico into a purpose-driven digital powerhouse – by overcoming his own ego. Recorded live at the IMD International Alumni Symposium in Lausanne, this Leaders Unplugged episode features Walmex CEO Guilherme “Gui” Loureiro in conversation with IMD's Alyson Meister.
Loureiro recounts how he led Walmex (Walmart Mexico & Central America) from a “very, very successful brick-and-mortar company” into a purpose-driven digital ecosystem: “When we started to ask how we could contribute for this change instead of waiting for the country to change – then the transformation started.” He shares his own leadership reckoning — “I said to my wife, I’m a dinosaur. And my company is a dinosaur company.” — and the humility that followed: “My desire to transform the company was bigger than my ego.” The conversation draws from Loureiro’s new book, Reinventing the Leader: How to Change Yourself to Change Your Company – a masterclass in how leaders transform themselves to transform their organizations. And it comes with a proud announcement: Gui Loureiro is not only the newly appointed Chairman of the Board of Walmex, he is also joining IMD as Executive Resident Professor. Welcome Gui Loureiro! | |||
| Gideon Rachman (FT): Can liberal democracy win the 21st century? | 23 Oct 2025 | 00:41:41 | |
In this episode of Leaders Unplugged, IMD President David Bach sits down with Financial Times Chief Foreign Affairs Commentator Gideon Rachman for an unflinching look at the shifting balance of global power – and what it means for leaders today. As Rachman puts it, “It’s hard to get past Donald Trump as the sort of biggest current disruptive force in international politics… because essentially he represents the United States turning on the global system that it helped to create after the Second World War.”
Our guest Gideon Rachman is Chief Foreign Affairs Commentator at the Financial Times and one of the world’s most influential geopolitical commentators. As the Financial Times’ Chief Foreign Affairs Commentator and author of The Age of the Strongman, Easternization, and Zero-Sum World, he provides deep insight into how global politics and economics shape the world of business and leadership. Gideon also hosts the Rachman Review, a podcast that gives a chance to listen in on his reflective and often probing conversations with politicians, intellectuals and analysts around the globe. | |||
| WEF Unplugged: Geopolitics, Sustainability, and a Look behind the Scenes | 23 Jan 2026 | 00:25:55 | |
Live from Davos: IMD’s Julia Binder and David Bach cut through the headlines on geopolitics, AI, energy – and competing visions for the international order. Recorded live on the final day of WEF 2026 in Davos, David Bach sits down with colleague and fellow IMD professor Julia Binder to unpack what shaped the week beyond the headlines – and why there is room for optimism. Bach reflects on two competing visions now emerging in global affairs: a world driven by raw power, and an alternative he describes as values-based realism or principled pragmatism, insisting on “a commitment to democracy, the rule of law, human rights, free speech, self-determination, and respect for sovereignty” while recognizing and navigating the distribution of power and influence. While discussions on sustainability and greater inclusion were less present on the main stage, Binder shares her assessment from behind the scenes: “It’s not that the sustainability conversation is dead. It’s happening under different terms. It’s reframed,” she explains. Many companies, she notes, are practicing quiet corporate activism: “We can’t speak out at the moment, but actually our actions do not just continue – we’re doubling down, we’re putting more money on the table.” Overall, a new logic dominates the transition: “those that will win the race for AI are the ones that manage energy better.”
Julia Binder is the Director of IMD's Center for Sustainable and Inclusive Business, a Young Global Leader of the World Economic Forum, and the host of “Inside the Transition”. She works with organizations globally on transformation and helps leaders turn sustainability and societal challenges into strategic opportunity. LinkedIn - https://ch.linkedin.com/in/julia-k-binder | |||
| Oona Hathway, should we still believe in the global order? | 23 Apr 2026 | 00:43:41 | |
Oona Hathaway on war, global rules, and why business leaders may regret staying silent as international law is violated.
Oona Hathaway Oona Hathaway is one of the world’s leading experts on international law and global governance. She is a professor at Yale Law School and Yale University, and president-elect of the American Society of International Law. She is co-author of The Internationalists: How a Radical Plan to Outlaw War Remade the World, and author of the upcoming book, Citizens.
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| Kirsty Coventry (IOC) on why leaders should train - and fail - like Olympians | 09 Apr 2026 | 00:40:20 | |
In this episode of Leaders Unplugged, David Bach sits down with IOC President Kirsty Coventry to explore how she is navigating one of the most complex leadership roles in global sport today. From the IOC’s new transgender policy on women’s sports – “it's very clear on the medical and scientific proof that transgender athletes have an advantage” – to the success of Milano Cortina and the future relevance of the Olympic Games, Coventry offers a candid look at how she makes decisions under pressure. As the first woman and first African in her role, Coventry also describes a strategic shift she is pushing for inside the IOC: away from trying to be “everything to everyone… but a little bit unrealistic” and toward a sharper focus on the core of the Olympic Games. Her message for leaders everywhere is clear: “If everyone's happy then you're probably not doing the right thing.” Drawing on her experience as an Olympic champion, she makes the case that athletes may offer a blueprint for modern leadership: “We are consistently good at getting criticism – because it's the one way we get better.”
LinkedIn: https://zw.linkedin.com/in/kirsty-coventry | |||
| Can NIO reinvent the automotive industry, Mark Zhou? | 24 Feb 2026 | 00:28:35 | |
A decade ago, NIO was an idea. Today, the Chinese startup is one of the most innovative electric mobility brands in the world. On this episode of Leaders Unplugged, Mark Zhou, Executive VP and Chairman of NIO’s Product Committee, shares how they did it – and what’s next. Mark recalls that NIO’s founder William Li “only gave us like 36 months… to set up a company, grow the organization, deliver the vehicles, set up the power swap stations.” For him and other early hires who joined the company from legacy competitors, accustomed to carefully sequenced five-year plans, this wasn’t just ambitious — it was radical.
Our guest: Mark Zhou Mark has helped scale NIO from a Shanghai startup to a global EV challenger, overseeing product strategy, global R&D, and international expansion. | |||