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Lawyerist Podcast

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The Lawyerist Podcast is your ultimate guide to building, managing, and growing a successful small or medium-sized law firm. Tailored for lawyers and attorneys who aspire to thrive in today’s fast-paced legal landscape, this podcast delivers actionable advice, proven strategies, and cutting-edge insights to help you run a modern law firm with confidence. Whether you're a solo attorney starting your practice, managing a growing firm, or looking to optimize your operations, The Lawyerist Podcast provides the tools you need. From mastering law firm marketing, streamlining workflows with legal technology, and improving client relationships to building sustainable firm culture, we cover everything that matters to entrepreneurial lawyers. Hosted by industry leaders and packed with interviews featuring top legal professionals, tech innovators, and law firm management experts, each episode dives deep into topics like law firm profitability, automation, time management, and future trends in legal services. If you’re searching for practical advice on how to run a law firm, grow your legal business, and stay ahead of the curve, The Lawyerist Podcast is the resource you’ve been waiting for. Subscribe now to elevate your practice and build the law firm of your dreams.

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Marketing Without Feeling Salesy: How Lawyers Can Stay Visible and Win Better Clients, with Aaron Thomas

Season 1 · Episode 627

Thursday, July 23, 2026 • Duration 34:01

Law firm marketing does not have to mean paid ads, aggressive sales tactics, or posting constantly online. In episode 628 of the Lawyerist Podcast, Chad Fox talks with Aaron Thomas about marketing for lawyers who do not think of themselves as marketers. Aaron shares how he went from relying almost entirely on referrals to building a more intentional approach that helped grow his firm and bring in better-fit clients. They explore why referral marketing is still marketing, how newsletters can keep firms visible, and why useful content often works better than a direct sales pitch. Aaron also explains how lawyers can build stronger referral networks, make their expertise easier to find, and outsource repetitive marketing tasks without hiring a full-time employee. If you want to grow your firm without sounding salesy or turning marketing into a second job, this episode provides simple strategies you can begin using right away. This episode is sponsored by Posh Virtual Receptionists. As Aaron explains, effective marketing is often less about selling and more about making it easier for the right clients to find, trust, and connect with your firm. Posh helps support that experience by answering calls, improving responsiveness, and helping law firms maintain consistent communication with prospective and current clients. Learn more at https://posh.com/lawyerist/. Listen to our previous episodes on Law Firm Marketing & Building Client Relationships. #608: Business Development for Lawyers: Building Real Relationships That Lead to Clients, with Megan Senese Apple | Spotify | LTN #603: Turn Expertise into Clients: Building Authority That AI Recognizes, with Karin Conroy Apple | Spotify | LTN #546: Unlock Law Firm Growth: AI Marketing Secrets, with Karin Conroy Apple | Spotify | LTN #526: LinkedIn Mastery: Grow Your Law Firm NOW!, with Matthew Hunt Apple | Spotify | LTN #515: Simple Marketing Hacks Lawyers Swear By, with Gyi Tsakalakis Apple | Spotify | LTN Have thoughts about today’s episode? Join the conversation on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, and X! If today's podcast resonates with you and you haven't read The Small Firm Roadmap Revisited yet, get the first chapter right now for free! Looking for help beyond the book? See if our coaching community is right for you. Access more resources from Lawyerist at lawyerist.com. Chapters / Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction 00:25 – What Happens When a Business Fully Unplugs 02:05 – Why Rest Belongs in Your Business Plan 12:15 – Meet Aaron Thomas 13:05 – Every Law Firm Is Already Marketing 15:05 – Finding More of the Right Clients 16:20 – Why Advertising Should Not Be Your First Move 17:40 – Marketing to Your Existing Network First 18:50 – Newsletters That Clients Want to Read 21:05 – Networking Without the Sales Pitch 21:55 – Creating Referral Partnerships with Other Lawyers 23:50 – Using Helpful Content to Build Authority 25:10 – Let Your Expertise Do the Selling 26:25 – Why Free Information Still Leads to Paid Work 28:30 – A Practical Starting Point for Overwhelmed Firms 29:50 – Outsourcing the Work That Never Gets Done 31:20 – How Basic Marketing Created Rapid Growth 32:55 – Closing Thoughts

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Building Stronger Law Firm Teams Through Better Communication, with Zeina Baydoun

Season 1 · Episode 627

Thursday, July 16, 2026 • Duration 37:37

Knowing your communication style is useful. Knowing when to move beyond it is what creates growth. In episode 627 of the Lawyerist Podcast, Zack Glaser talks with Zeina Baydoun about how law firm leaders and teams can use DISC to better understand themselves, communicate more effectively, and respond with greater intention. Zeina breaks down why DISC is not a personality test or a permanent label. It is a starting point for recognizing the behaviors that come most naturally, the blind spots those tendencies can create, and the ways stress may amplify them. Rather than using a profile to say, “That is just how I am,” she encourages leaders to ask whether their default response is actually what the person or situation needs. They discuss how different communication styles can create friction inside law firms, why understanding behavior can replace judgment with curiosity, and how teams can better support one another without lowering expectations for growth. If you want to improve communication without forcing everyone to think and work the same way, this episode offers a thoughtful framework for building more adaptable leaders and more connected teams. Listen to our previous episodes on Leadership, Communication & Building Stronger Law Firm Teams. #615: How to Stop Being the Bottleneck and Build Stronger Teams, with Debbie Foster and Stephanie Everett Apple | Spotify | LTN #596: The Athlete’s Mindset for Lawyers, with Jess Sargus Apple | Spotify | LTN #592: Client Care, Culture, and Character: A Framework for Great Leaders, with William O’Neal Apple | Spotify | LTN #527: Casting Your Vision and Leading Your Firm, with Kevin DeShazo Apple | Spotify | LTN Have thoughts about today’s episode? Join the conversation on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, and X! If today's podcast resonates with you and you haven't read The Small Firm Roadmap Revisited yet, get the first chapter right now for free! Looking for help beyond the book? See if our coaching community is right for you. Access more resources from Lawyerist at lawyerist.com. Chapters / Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction01:25 – Using DISC as an Active Leadership Tool04:10 – Meet Zeina Baydoun05:45 – What DISC Reveals About Communication08:35 – Understanding Behavioral Preferences12:00 – How Self-Awareness Changes Team Dynamics14:40 – The Problem with Personality Labels16:20 – Why Leaders Cannot Hide Behind Their Style17:40 – Developing Skills Outside Your Comfort Zone18:55 – Adapting Your Communication to the Situation21:55 – Leadership and Communication Under Pressure25:25 – Supporting Strengths and Managing Blind Spots28:50 – Creating Space for Other People to Lead31:05 – Moving Beyond Fixed Leadership Styles32:10 – Building New Behavioral Habits33:05 – Choice, Growth and Intentional Leadership35:05 – Closing Thoughts

The Power of Humor in Law Firm Communication, with Jennifer Cargo

Season 1 · Episode 626

Thursday, July 9, 2026 • Duration 28:38

Law firms deal with serious issues, but that does not mean every client interaction has to feel heavy. In episode 626 of the Lawyerist Podcast, Stephanie Everett talks with Jennifer Cargo about humor as an underrated communication skill for lawyers and law firm teams. Jennifer shares how her experience with comedy training and amateur standup shaped the way she connects with clients, leads a team, and lightens stressful moments inside a law firm. From breaking the ice during client signings to helping team members feel more comfortable bringing challenges to her, she explains why humor is not about being silly or unprofessional. It is about paying attention, reading the room, and making people feel at ease. Together, they explore how small moments of levity can build trust, improve client experience, and create a more approachable workplace culture. Jennifer also shares what comedy teaches about timing, observation, confidence, and finding the absurdity in everyday life. A more human law firm does not always start with a new process or platform. Sometimes, it starts with the way you make people feel when they walk through the door. Listen to our previous episodes on Law Firm Communication & Client Trust. #609: Improve Client Satisfaction Without More Work: Designing Smarter Legal Services, with Laura Hartnett Apple | Spotify | LTN #606: Breaking the Copycat Cycle: Building a Law Firm with Personality, with Patrick Patino Apple | Spotify | LTN #592: Client Care, Culture and Character: A Framework for Great Leaders, with William O’Neal Apple | Spotify | LTN #462: Designing an Empathetic Client Experience, with Kirk Simoneau Apple | Spotify | LTN #338: Reframing Your Client Experience, with Spencer Keys Apple | Spotify | LTN Have thoughts about today’s episode? Join the conversation on LinkedIn, Facebook, and Instagram! If today's podcast resonates with you and you haven't read The Small Firm Roadmap Revisited yet, get the first chapter right now for free! Looking for help beyond the book? See if our coaching community is right for you. Access more resources from Lawyerist at lawyerist.com. Chapters / Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction 00:20 – Humor as a Serious Communication Skill 00:45 – What Makes LabCon Different 02:05 – Working on the Business, Not Just in It 04:03 – Meet Jennifer Cargo 05:17 – How Comedy School Changed Jennifer’s Perspective 06:29 – Practicing Confidence Before the Stage 07:22 – Standup, Improv, and Learning to Be Funny 08:42 – Observing the Absurdity Around You 09:05 – Turning Office Friction into Client Connection 10:44 – Humor and the Client Experience 12:06 – Finding Levity Without Dismissing Stress 14:43 – Why Smiling Changes the Interaction 15:29 – Timing, Pauses, and the Structure of a Joke 18:56 – What Law Firms Can Learn from Comedy 20:27 – Building Trust Through Approachable Leadership 22:45 – AI, Comedy Writing, and Creative Prompts 24:51 – Using AI as a Thought Partner 25:17 – The Value of Trying Something New

Before You Hire: How to Know What Your Law Firm Really Needs, with Bernadette Harris

Season 1 · Episode 625

Thursday, July 2, 2026 • Duration 26:45

Most law firm owners know what it feels like to need help. But needing help and being ready to hire are not always the same thing. In episode 625 of the Lawyerist Podcast, Stephanie Everett sits down with Bernadette Harris to talk about the timing, planning, and clarity required to make a successful hire. Bernadette shares why the biggest hiring mistake is not always choosing the wrong person. Sometimes, it is hiring at the wrong time. Hire too soon, and the firm may not have enough work or revenue to support the role. Hire too late, and the owner may be too overwhelmed to train, onboard, and set the new person up for success. Stephanie and Bernadette discuss how to evaluate consistent demand, identify whether the owner is the real bottleneck, and use capacity planning to make a more grounded hiring decision. They also explore why lawyers need to define the role clearly before bringing someone in, including the tasks, expectations, soft skills, and success metrics that will shape the position. If you are thinking about hiring because your firm feels chaotic, this episode will help you pause, look at the data, and make sure you are solving the right problem before adding another person to the payroll. Listen to our previous episodes on Law Firm Hiring, Delegation & Building Better Teams. #621: Stop Calling Them VAs: How to Build a High-Performing Remote Legal Team, with Raquel Gomes Apple | Spotify | LTN #616: From Solo to CEO: Letting Go of Legal Work to Grow Your Firm, with Ellen Williamson Apple | Spotify | LTN #615: How to Stop Being the Bottleneck and Build Stronger Teams, with Debbie Foster and Stephanie Everett Apple | Spotify | LTN #523: Financial Red Flags: Are You Hiring Too Soon?, with Bernadette Harris Apple | Spotify | LTN Have thoughts about today’s episode? Join the conversation on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, and X! If today's podcast resonates with you and you haven't read The Small Firm Roadmap Revisited yet, get the first chapter right now for free! Looking for help beyond the book? See if our coaching community is right for you. Access more resources from Lawyerist at lawyerist.com. Chapters / Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction00:17 – The Case for Closing the Firm for a Week01:30 – What Has to Be True Before You Can Unplug02:35 – Planning Ahead So Time Off Actually Works03:25 – Meet Bernadette Harris03:55 – The Real Hiring Problem: Wrong Timing04:20 – Financial Stress vs. Operational Chaos05:25 – How to Know When Your Firm Is Ready06:05 – Why Hiring Decisions Need Data06:40 – Capacity Planning for Law Firm Owners07:40 – Are People in the Right Seats?08:45 – Consistent Work vs. One Busy Month09:55 – The Referral Problem and Predictable Demand11:15 – When the Owner Becomes the Bottleneck12:25 – The Time Study Every Owner Needs13:05 – Stop Hiring for “Help”14:20 – Role Clarity and the Type of Person You Need15:45 – Soft Skills Matter More Than You Think16:40 – Why You May Need the Opposite of Yourself17:45 – Onboarding Is More Than Paperwork18:30 – Creating a 90-Day Training Plan20:25 – Why Expectations Need to Be Clear Up Front22:50 – Showing New Hires What Success Looks Like24:30 – What Really Makes a Firm Ready to Hire24:45 – Closing Thoughts

Building Better Lawyers in the Age of AI, with April Dawson

Season 1 · Episode 624

Thursday, June 25, 2026 • Duration 38:26

AI is not just changing how lawyers work. It is changing how lawyers learn. In episode 624 of the Lawyerist Podcast, Zack Glaser talks with April Dawson, Associate Dean of Technology and Innovation and Professor of Law at North Carolina Central University School of Law, about what AI means for legal education, new lawyer training, and the future of law practice. April explains why law schools can no longer rely on written work alone to measure whether students truly understand the material. As AI becomes embedded in legal writing, research, and drafting tools, new lawyers will need to prove their value in different ways, including verbal explanation, critical thinking, judgment, and the ability to use technology responsibly. Together, they explore how AI may shrink traditional mentorship opportunities, why new lawyers need to become more self-directed learners, and how legal employers may increasingly expect graduates to arrive with real AI fluency. April also shares why small firm owners should rethink their workflows from beginning to end instead of layering AI on top of inefficient systems. If you are wondering what the next generation of lawyers needs to know, this episode offers a practical look at how AI is reshaping legal education, law firm training, and the skills lawyers will need to stay valuable. Listen to our previous episodes on AI Skills New Lawyers Need Now. #619: What Claude Means for Law Firms: AI Skills, Connectors, and Workflow Strategy, with Sam Harden Apple | Spotify | LTN #590: Innovating Without Overwhelm: Practical AI Tips for Lawyers, with Graydon Trusler Apple | Spotify | LTN #577: Rethinking Law Firm Growth in the Age of AI, with Sam Harden Apple | Spotify | LTN #553: AI Tools and Processes Every Lawyer Should Use, with Catherine Sanders Reach Apple | Spotify | LTN Have thoughts about today’s episode? Join the conversation on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, and X! If today's podcast resonates with you and you haven't read The Small Firm Roadmap Revisited yet, get the first chapter right now for free! Looking for help beyond the book? See if our coaching community is right for you. Access more resources from Lawyerist at lawyerist.com. Chapters / Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction01:20 – What Claude for Legal Shows Lawyers About AI05:20 – Using AI Without Starting from Scratch09:20 – Meet April Dawson10:40 – Why Law School Can’t Teach the Same Way12:05 – Why Writing Alone No Longer Proves Understanding13:20 – The Skills Clients Will Actually Measure16:05 – Why “Strong Writer” Is Now Table Stakes18:15 – What New Lawyers Lose When AI Does the First Draft19:25 – How New Lawyers Can Learn Faster with AI22:55 – Building Judgment Without 20 Years of Experience27:10 – Why AI May Help New Lawyers Start Firms Sooner28:35 – What Small Firms Should Rethink Before Adding AI31:50 – Why AI-Savvy Lawyers Will Stand Out34:15 – The Risk of Automating Broken Processes36:15 – Closing Thoughts

AI Arbitration and the Future of Legal Work, with Bridget McCormack

Season 1 · Episode 623

Thursday, June 18, 2026 • Duration 31:03

Lawyers are trained to spot risk. But when it comes to AI, focusing only on risk may cause firms to miss the bigger opportunity. In episode 623 of the Lawyerist Podcast, Zack Glaser sits down with Bridget McCormack to talk about AI arbitration, legal innovation, and why the future of legal work may be less about replacement and more about reinvention. Bridget reflects on her time as Chief Justice of the Michigan Supreme Court, including how the pandemic forced courts to adopt technology faster than anyone expected. She explains why that moment revealed both the limits of traditional legal systems and the potential for more accessible, user-friendly ways to resolve disputes. Now leading the American Arbitration Association, Bridget shares how AAA is using AI to build tools for clause drafting, self-represented parties, resolution simulation, and even documents-only arbitration. The conversation explores what fairness looks like when AI is involved, why human oversight remains essential, and how legal professionals should think about accountability, bias, and trust. If AI changes the routine parts of legal work, lawyers will need to rethink what clients actually need from them. This episode offers a practical and future-focused look at arbitration, legal technology, and the new kinds of judgment lawyers will need to bring to the table. Listen to our previous episodes on Artificial Intelligence and the Future of Legal Practice. #612 – AI for Lawyers: What You Need to Know Before Your Clients Do, with Cat Casey Apple | Spotify | LTN #607 – The Future of Law Firm Business Models in the Age of AI, with Jordan Furlong Apple | Spotify | LTN #619– What Claude Means for Law Firms: AI Skills, Connectors, and Workflow Strategy, with Sam Harden Apple | Spotify | LTN #590 – Innovating Without Overwhelm: Practical AI Tips for Lawyers, with Graydon Trusler Apple | Spotify | LTN #587 – Future-Proofing Your Firm in the Age of AI, with Jack Newton Apple | Spotify | LTN #577 – Rethinking Law Firm Growth in the Age of AI, with Sam Harden Apple | Spotify | LTN Links from the episode: https://adr.org/ Have thoughts about today’s episode? Join the conversation on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, and X! If today's podcast resonates with you and you haven't read The Small Firm Roadmap Revisited yet, get the first chapter right now for free! Looking for help beyond the book? See if our coaching community is right for you. Access more resources from Lawyerist at lawyerist.com. Chapters / Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction 00:55 – Why Lawyers Should Test Their Own Intake Process03:35 – Meet Bridget McCormack04:25 – Leading Michigan Courts Through COVID05:20 – Why Remote Court Was Already on the Radar06:40 – Moving Trial Courts Online Fast08:45 – Why Legal Systems Are Slow to Change10:33 – From Chief Justice to CEO of AAA13:18 – How Alternative Dispute Resolution Is Evolving14:50 – AI Tools for Arbitration and Self-Represented Parties15:57 – Building AAA’s AI Arbitrator17:36 – Resolution Simulation and Faster Settlements19:05 – What Is Left for Lawyers?21:19 – Fairness, Bias, and Human Oversight in AI Arbitration23:45 – Why Legal Disputes Need More Options24:41 – AI Agents and the Future of Legal Infrastructure26:26 – When AI Agents Negotiate Contracts28:30 – Closing Thoughts

From Practice to Asset: Building a Law Firm with Real Value, with Tom Lenfestey

Season 1 · Episode 622

Thursday, June 11, 2026 • Duration 41:20

Most lawyers build their firms to serve clients, not to eventually leave them. But every law firm owner will exit someday, whether by choice, necessity, or life change. In episode 622 of the Lawyerist Podcast, Zack Glaser talks with Tom Lenfestey, attorney, CPA, and founder of The Law Practice Exchange, about why exit planning should not be treated as something reserved for retirement. Tom explains why succession planning often feels like the end, while exit planning gives firm owners more control over their future, their value, and their next act. They explore what makes a law firm transferable, why systems and data matter to buyers, and how lawyers can build firms that are worth more than just the owner’s name. Tom also breaks down how the market for law firm sales is changing, from private capital to alternative business structures, and why modern buyers are looking closely at financials, intake, marketing, operations, and owner independence. If you own a law firm, this conversation is a reminder that your firm can be more than a job you built for yourself. With the right planning, it can become an asset, a legacy, and a bridge to whatever comes next. Links from the episode: https://thelawpracticeexchange.com/ https://a.co/d/05rY2bUe Listen to our previous episodes on Law Firm Exits & Succession. #568: How to Build a Law Firm You Can Sell, with Victoria L. Collier Apple | Spotify | LTN #517: Passing the Torch: Mastering the Art of Succession, with Carol Bertsch & Brennen Boze Apple | Spotify | LTN #369: Selling Your Practice, with Tom Lenfestey Apple | Spotify | LTN #326: A Succession Plan for Your Law Practice, with Tom Lenfestey Apple | Spotify | LTN Have thoughts about today’s episode? Join the conversation on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, and X! If today's podcast resonates with you and you haven't read The Small Firm Roadmap Revisited yet, get the first chapter right now for free! Looking for help beyond the book? See if our coaching community is right for you. Access more resources from Lawyerist at lawyerist.com. Chapters / Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction 01:00 – Why Succession Planning Feels Like the End 02:15 – Identity, Second Acts & Life After Practice 05:00 – Meet Tom Lenfestey 06:35 – Does a Law Firm Have Value Beyond the Owner? 07:45 – Why Tom Started The Law Practice Exchange 10:45 – Creating a Marketplace for Law Firm Sales 12:55 – When to Start Planning Your Exit 13:55 – Why Exit Planning Belongs in Your Strategic Plan 15:45 – Why Time Is Your Biggest Advantage 16:05 – Building a Firm with Exit in Mind 17:30 – Why The Exit Blueprint Matters Now 20:40 – What Law Firm Owners Need to Know Before Selling 22:45 – Private Capital, ABS & New Buyer Models 25:20 – What Sophisticated Buyers Want to See 27:15 – Why Data and Systems Create Transferable Value 29:00 – When Succession Planning Goes Wrong 31:20 – Why Internal Successors May Not Be Buyers 33:00 – Exit Strategy vs. Retirement Planning 36:50 – Keeping Your Options Open After Exit 38:50 – Where to Find The Exit Blueprint

Stop Calling Them VAs: How to Build a High-Performing Remote Legal Team, with Raquel Gomes

Season 1 · Episode 621

Tuesday, June 9, 2026 • Duration 28:19

Hiring offshore staff can transform a law firm, but only if it's done intentionally. In this episode, Zack Glaser sits down with Raquel Gomes, co-founder and CEO of Stafi, to discuss the most common mistakes law firms make when hiring remote offshore team members. Drawing on her background in psychology and experience supporting hundreds of law firms, Raquel explains why the term "virtual assistant" may be holding firms back and how successful firms build engaged, high-performing remote teams. Zack and Raquel explore the importance of defining roles before hiring, creating effective vetting processes, building structured onboarding systems, integrating remote staff into firm culture, and continuing to invest in team members after they are hired. They also discuss how law firm owners can move from working in the business to leading the business by building teams they trust. Listen to our previous episodes on hiring, delegation, leadership, and building stronger law firm teams: #616: From Solo to CEO: Letting Go of Legal Work to Grow Your Firm, with Ellen Williamson Apple | Spotify | LTN #615: How to Stop Being the Bottleneck and Build Stronger Teams, with Debbie Foster and Stephanie Everett Apple | Spotify | LTN #523: Financial Red Flags: Are You Hiring Too Soon?, with Bernadette Harris Apple | Spotify | LTN Links from the episode:  https://getstafi.com Have thoughts about today’s episode? Join the conversation on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, and X! If today's podcast resonates with you and you haven't read The Small Firm Roadmap Revisited yet, get the first chapter right now for free! Looking for help beyond the book? See if our coaching community is right for you. Access more resources from Lawyerist at lawyerist.com. Chapters / Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 01:26 Why "VA" Is the Wrong Mindset 04:21 Mistake #1: Hiring Reactively Instead of Strategically 06:02 Mistake #2: Weak Vetting and Screening 09:29 How Stafi Evaluates Candidates 11:41 Mistake #3: Poor Onboarding Processes 13:19 Creating SOPs Through Training 15:20 Mistake #4: Failing to Integrate Remote Staff 18:51 Investing in Team Culture and Communication 20:39 Mistake #5: Giving Up Too Soon 22:58 What Makes Stafi Different 24:45 Immigration Case Outsourcing Explained 26:34 The Benefits of Getting Offshore Hiring Right 27:28 Where to Learn More About Stafi

What Claude Means for Law Firms, Part 2: Using AI to Practice at the Top of Your License, with Sam Harden

Season 1 · Episode 620

Thursday, June 4, 2026 • Duration 49:02

Claude for Legal is not just something lawyers can install and use out of the box. It is a starting point for building smarter, more intentional law firm workflows. In this follow-up to last week’s conversation, Zack Glaser continues his discussion with Sam Harden about Claude for Legal, AI skills, and what law firms need to understand before adding automation into their work. Sam explains why lawyers should not treat Claude’s legal plugin as a finished product, but as a framework they can customize around their own processes, practice areas, and firm strategy. They discuss how lawyers can modify AI skills, share them across a team, avoid creating more silos, and think through workflows before automating them. From demand letters to deposition summaries to safe experimentation, this episode explores how AI can help lawyers reduce repetitive work while preserving the judgment, expertise, and “secret sauce” that make their firms valuable. Listen to our previous episodes on Artificial intelligence, law firm workflows, and the future of legal practice: #619: What Claude Means for Law Firms: AI Skills, Connectors, and Workflow Strategy, with Sam Harden Apple | Spotify | LTN #612: AI for Lawyers: What You Need to Know Before Your Clients Do, with Cat Casey Apple | Spotify | LTN #601: Beyond Chatbots: Using Agentic AI in Law Firm Intake, with Matt Spiegel Apple | Spotify | LTN #590: Innovating Without Overwhelm: Practical AI Tips for Lawyers, with Graydon Trusler Apple | Spotify | LTN #587: Future Proofing Your Firm in the Age of AI, with Jack Newton Apple | Spotify | LTN #577: Rethinking Law Firm Growth in the Age of AI, with Sam Harden Apple | Spotify | LTN Links from the episode: Posh.com/lawyerist https://samharden.substack.com/ Have thoughts about today’s episode? Join the conversation on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, and X! If today's podcast resonates with you and you haven't read The Small Firm Roadmap Revisited yet, get the first chapter right now for free! Looking for help beyond the book? See if our coaching community is right for you. Access more resources from Lawyerist at lawyerist.com. Chapters / Timestamps: 00:00: Introduction00:20: Why “Ready” Can Be Fear in Disguise05:14: Sponsor Conversation with Posh13:16: What Claude for Legal Actually Is15:04: Claude for Legal 2.017:28: The Risk of Non Lawyers Using Legal AI20:09: What This Means for Attorneys21:17: The Plugin Is Not the Plan23:22: Customizing Claude for Your Practice 27:20: Sharing AI Skills Across a Firm29:03: Why Law Firms Need an AI Strategy31:19: Map Workflows Before Automating 33:05: Connecting AI to Your Firm’s Data39:13: How Far Can Law Firm AI Go?42:54: Practicing at the Top of Your License43:31: Safe AI Experimentation for Lawyers 47:44: Where to Find Sam Harden

What Claude Means for Law Firms: AI Skills, Connectors, and Workflow Strategy, with Sam Harden

Season 1 · Episode 619

Thursday, May 28, 2026 • Duration 39:39

Claude is not just another AI tool lawyers can chat with. It may be a preview of where legal work is heading. In episode 619 of the Lawyerist Podcast, Zack Glaser talks with Sam Harden about Claude, Claude for legal, and the growing role of AI in law firm workflows. Sam breaks down how Claude can work with documents, folders, PDFs, Word files, and connected legal tools in ways that go far beyond simple prompting. They discuss the difference between Claude Chat, Claude Cowork, connectors, and skills, and why those distinctions matter for lawyers trying to understand what AI can actually do. They also explore why law firms should not rush into automation without first building better systems. From deposition summaries to document creation to legal research support, this episode explains how AI can become more useful when it is guided by strong processes, clear instructions, and thoughtful implementation. Listen to our previous episodes on Artificial Intelligence and the Future of Legal Practice. #612: AI for Lawyers: What You Need to Know Before Your Clients Do, with Cat Casey Apple | Spotify | LTN #601: Beyond Chatbots: Using Agentic AI in Law Firm Intake, with Matt Spiegel Apple | Spotify | LTN #590: Innovating Without Overwhelm: Practical AI Tips for Lawyers, with Graydon Trusler Apple | Spotify | LTN #587: Future-Proofing Your Firm in the Age of AI, with Jack Newton Apple | Spotify | LTN #577: Rethinking Law Firm Growth in the Age of AI, with Sam Harden Apple | Spotify | LTN Have thoughts about today’s episode? Join the conversation on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, and X! If today's podcast resonates with you and you haven't read The Small Firm Roadmap Revisited yet, get the first chapter right now for free! Looking for help beyond the book? See if our coaching community is right for you. Access more resources from Lawyerist at lawyerist.com. Chapters / Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction 00:34 – Why Claude for Legal Matters 01:28 – Live Crabs and Work from Home Chaos 07:04 – Setting Up the Conversation 07:29 – Meet Sam Harden 08:04 – What Lawyers Should Watch with Claude 10:14 – What Claude Actually Is 11:16 – How AI Moved Beyond Chat 12:07 – From Claude Code to Claude Cowork 13:22 – How Claude Works with Documents 15:20 – Why Claude Cowork Is a Big Shift 15:45 – Creating Documents and Presentations 16:52 – Claude Chat vs. Cowork vs. Code 18:12 – Legal Plugins and Connectors 19:30 – Reducing Context Switching with AI 20:49 – Connecting Claude to Legal Tools 22:24 – What Legal Connectors Can Do 24:47 – MCP, Tools, and Connector Limits 26:37 – What Claude Skills Are 28:44 – Why SOPs Come Before AI Skills 29:43 – Using Skills for Legal Documents 30:35 – AI Skills for Deposition Summaries 31:14 – Combining Connectors and Skills 32:15 – Teaching Claude Like a Team Member 33:11 – Choosing the Right Skill 34:00 – How Bad Instructions Create AI Risk 35:49 – Building Better Skills and Plugins 37:13 – What Comes Next for Claude for Legal

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