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S5E12 - Aryn Mott - Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma - The Depth Within Desire26 Oct 202600:45:57

This week on Last to Leave, Zoey Danielson and Heather Elaine Abbott are at the bottom of the lake where the movies come from for a very special episode all about Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma. They're joined by the film's Intimacy Coordinator, Aryn Mott, for a rich discussion all about the making of this LTL certified favorite film. 

In this episode, Heather, Zoey, and Aryn, peel back the many layers of Camp Miasma, bond over a shared devotion to dipping sauce, reflect on the importance of queer joy and representation, and gush about the film's incredible Writer/Director, Jane Schoenbrun. This one is the definition of a very special episode for your favorite film nerds! 

If you haven't seen Camp Miasma yet, you can stream it on MUBI or buy it on digital. It's well worth the watch!

You can keep up with Aryn Mott's career on their instagram @vancityic or their website.

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S5E11 - Sofia Sacomani - 100 Nights of Hero - The Vivid Process of Creating12 Oct 202600:49:44

This week on Last to Leave, Zoey Danielson & Heather Elaine Abbott step into the richly imagined world of 100 Nights of Hero with the film’s production designer, Sofia Sacomani. From the tiniest details tucked into the corner of a room to the boldest color choices lining a hallway, Sofia reveals how every design decision helps shape the way we experience a story.

In this episode, Heather & Zoey dive into the power of color in visual storytelling, explore how thoughtful design choices build a film’s world, and uncover the magic hiding in the details audiences might otherwise miss. Plus, Sofia takes us through her creative journey from fashion to film, sharing how her background continues to shape her approach to production design.

You can keep up with Sofia's work on her website.

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S5E10 - Shanika Lewis-Waddell - Undertone - The Tension of Creation28 Sep 202600:29:35

This week on Last to Leave, Zoey Danielson & Heather Elaine Abbott, investigate the demonic sound files that create the sonic texture of the indie horror film, Undertone, with the help of the film's composer, Shanika Lewis-Waddell. That's right, they're kicking off spooky season a few days early!

In this episode, Heather & Zoey explore the power of film score to subtly influence the audience's emotions, gain insight into the palette of instruments and electronic sounds that define Undertone's composition, and are inspired by Shanika's approach to a creative life. 

You can keep up with Shanika's work on her instagram @sh_n_sh_n_ or her website.

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S5E9 - Sophie Norfolk - All Her Fault - Knowing When To Save Your Bullets 14 Sep 202600:58:35

This week on Last to Leave, Zoey Danielson & Heather Elaine Abbott peek behind the curtain of All Her Fault with Sophie Norfolk, the Boom Operator on this gripping series. From the quiet moments you never see to the carefully choreographed dance happening just outside the frame, Sophie played a crucial role in capturing the intimate and emotionally charged performances that bring the world of All Her Fault to life. 

In this episode, Sophie takes us inside the art, quick thinking, and technical precision of boom operating, reveals the must have essentials she always keeps in her kit, and shares some of her favorite stories from set. She also reflects on the unique challenges and unexpected joys of capturing sound on a production like All Her Fault.

You can keep up with Sophie Norfolk's work on her IMDb.

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S5E8 - Matt Finlin - Matter of Time - Leave Your Ego at the Door31 Aug 202600:37:55

This week on Last to Leave, Zoey Danielson & Heather Elaine Abbott, dive into the world of documentary filmmaking to discuss Matter of Time (2025) with the help of the film's director, Matt Finlin. Matter of Time features a string of Eddie Vedder solo concerts in Seattle in 2023 as the backdrop for the film, which chronicles efforts to find a cure for epidermolysis bullosa (EB), a rare genetic disease that can be lethal.

In this episode, Heather & Zoey learn all about the realities of making an indie documentary, discuss the importance of funding scientific research, and are inspired by Matt's work with the EB community & Vedder family. This one is guaranteed to feed the hope machine, film nerds!

You can watch Matter of Time on Netflix and learn more about & how to donate to support the search for a cure at matteroftimefilm.com! 

You can keep up with Matt's work on his production company's website, Door Knocker Media, and follow him on instagram @mattfinlin

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S5E7 - Oisin O'Driscoll - Chris Fleming: Live at the Palace - The Art of the Grade 17 Aug 202600:30:52

This week on Last to Leave, Zoey Danielson & Heather Elaine Abbott are stepping into the color suite with Oisin O’Driscoll, the Irish colorist who helped bring HBO Max’s Chris Fleming: Live at the Palace to life.

In this episode, Zoey & Heather get into the wonderfully weird world of color grading, hear Oisin’s journey from Ireland to Chicago, and dig into what a colorist actually does to shape the look and feel of a project. From comedy specials to commercials to feature films, Oisin shares stories from his career, talks about the creative collaboration behind the grade, and gives us a peek behind the curtain at one of the final stages of bringing a project to life.

You can watch Chris Fleming: Live at the Palace on HBO Max!

You can keep up with Oisin O’Driscoll and his work through Harbor Picture Company and his Instagram @oisin_colour

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S5E6 - Rob Hatch-Miller & Puloma Basu - Micro Budget - The Power of Persistence03 Aug 202600:37:37

This week on Last to Leave, Zoey Danielson & Heather Elaine Abbott, are storming the film set of the hilarious mockumentary, Micro Budget, with the help of the film's producing duo, Rob Hatch-Miller & Puloma Basu. In this episode, Heather & Zoey giggle their way through Rob & Puloma's stories from the making of the film, bond over the woes & wahoos of indie producing, dig into the importance of saying 'yes', and walk away with a quite a few movies to add to their watchlists. 

You can watch Micro Budget (2024) for free on Tubi! If you'd like to keep up with the film's journey, you can follow them @microbudgetmovie on instagram or check out the film's website. 

You can keep with with Rob Hatch-Miller on his instagram @robhatchmiller or on his website. You can keep up with Puloma Basu on her instagram @puloma_b.


A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S5E5 - Mary Florence Brown and Kelsey Fowler - The Sabrina Carpenter Music Video Spectacular feat. "Tears" and "Taste"20 Jul 202601:23:08

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott and Zoey Danielson, for a very special birthday double feature of Last to Leave! In this extra celebratory episode, we’re diving behind the scenes of two of Zoey’s favorite Sabrina Carpenter music videos: “Tears” and “Taste.”

First up, we’re joined by Art Director Mary Florence Brown (@maryflorencebrown), who helps us unpack all things visual behind “Tears,” one of Sabrina Carpenter’s most striking music videos. We talk about creating a world that feels bold, cinematic, and unmistakably inspired by The Rocky Horror Picture Show, the collaborative process of bringing multiple custom sets to life, and the tiny details that go into making a music video in just mere DAYS.

Then, we turn our attention to the deliciously macabre world of “Taste” with set decorator Kelsey Fowler (@kelseyafowler). From building spaces that feel equal parts glamorous, playful, and just a little bit unhinged, Kelsey reveals how the video’s unforgettable environments came together... with just one or two blocked hallway's at a time.

Two interviews. Two music videos. One very special birthday episode.

So grab your popcorn, put on your favorite Sabrina Carpenter song, and join us for this double feature celebrating two iconic artists who help make Sabrina Carpenter’s unforgettable worlds come to life.


A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S5E4 - Victoria Donovan - Hamnet - The Subtle Truth of Play06 Jul 202600:37:20

This week on Last to Leave, Zoey Danielson & Heather Elaine Abbott peek behind the curtain of Shakespeare's Globe with Victoria Donovan, the Child Acting Coach on the set of Chloè Zhao's viscerally emotional & spiritual film, Hamnet. With a reverence for & commitment to truthful moments, Victoria Donovan helped shape the breathtaking performances of the powerhouse cast of children. 

In this episode, Victoria imparts her well-worn perspective on how to pursue a fulfilling creative life, shares her philosophy for coaching children, and reminisces on her most cherished moments on the set of Hamnet. 

You can keep up with Victoria Donovan's work on her IMDB and Instagram at @vixydonovan.

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S5E3 - Rory Cheyne - Foundation - How to Build a Galactic Empire22 Jun 202600:55:54

This week on Last to Leave, Heather Elaine Abbott and Zoey Danielson journey to the far reaches of the galaxy with Rory Cheyne, the Production Designer behind Apple TV+'s epic science fiction series, Foundation.

From towering imperial palaces and futuristic cities to the intricate details that make an imagined future feel real, Rory has helped shape one of television's most ambitious visual worlds. In this episode, Heather and Zoey explore the art of production design, discuss the challenges of building a universe that spans centuries, and hear stories from the set of a series that continues to redefine the scope of science fiction storytelling. Along the way, Rory shares insights into his creative process, his path through the industry, and the collaboration required to transform bold ideas into unforgettable on-screen environments.

You can keep up with Rory Cheyne's work on IMDb  or on his Instagram.

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S5E2 - Shonta Hylton - Sinners - The Power of Persistence 08 Jun 202600:42:02

Your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, are back with another behind-the-scenes deep dive, this time with Shonta Hylton, the Set Costumer who helped bring the rich, lived-in world of Ryan Coogler’s Oscar-winning film, Sinners, to life.

From timeless hats and sleek silk dresses to the countless details audiences never notice but always feel, Shonta helped keep the world of Sinners looking seamless in every scene. In this episode, Zoey & Heather explore the art of set costuming, discuss the collaboration required to maintain a film’s visual authenticity, and hear stories from the set of one of 2025's most celebrated films. Along the way, Shonta shares insights into her career, her creative process, and what it takes to protect your on-set transportation...even from the top-billed cast!

You can keep up with Shonta Hylton's work on her IMDB. 

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S5E1 - Meredith Alloway - Forbidden Fruits - Growing a Garden in a Cement Block25 May 202601:01:24

Welcome to Season FIVE, film nerds! 

That’s right! Your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, are back with a very special season premiere episode that is all about the 2026 indie film, Forbidden Fruits. They’re joined by the film’s inspiring & hilarious Director & Co-Writer, Meredith Alloway, for an in-depth discussion on the making of her debut feature film. 

In this episode, Zoey & Heather get the inside scoop on Meredith’s adaptation process with Co-Writer, Lily Houghton, discover the secret to taking care of your body on set, dive deep into the film’s themes, and discover a hidden detail that most audiences missed! It is a rich discussion that highlights the collaborative and community-focused approach that Meredith Alloway brings to set with her.

SPOILER NOTE:

The episode is fairly spoiler-free for Forbidden Fruits, however there is a discussion about the end of the film from 48:51-52:15. Feel free to skip that section, if you haven’t caught the film yet!


You can keep up with Meredith Alloway’s work on her instagram @atwwalloway. 

You can rent or buy Forbidden Fruits on VOD now! It will be debuting on Shudder in June & you can keep up with updates on the film  @forbiddenfruitsfilm or on the film’s website.

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

The Sound of Falling Episode Featuring Editor Evelyn Rack: Embracing the Radical Subjective09 Feb 202600:57:09

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott and Zoey Danielson, as they descend into the quiet, aching atmosphere of the German film Sound of Falling. They’re joined by the film’s editor, Evelyn Rack, whose delicate, emotionally attuned approach to shaping the rhythm of the movie was essential in bringing the story’s inner world to the screen.

Sound of Falling traces the fragile lives of its female leads, connected by one farm house, as moments of silence, distance, and connection ripple through time. With a patient eye and a sensitivity to absence as much as presence, the film meditates on memory and the subtle ways people reach for one another across emotional divides.


 From sculpting the film’s quiet pacing to honoring the power of stillness within each frame, Evelyn’s editorial voice helps transform quiet gestures into profound emotional resonance. Her work reveals how meaning can emerge not only from what is shown, but from what is carefully left unsaid.

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

The Movies We Loved in 202512 Jan 202600:55:17

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they gush about the incredible year that 2025 was... for movies, at least! From honorable mentions to top ten lists (that somehow manage to be closer to top 14), Zoey and Heather's epic yap session is chock full of recommendations, reflections on 'the good shit', and just a few hot takes. 

Film (& TV) Discussed: Bugonia, One Battle After Another, All Her Fault, Frankenstein, Weapons, No Other Choice, The Running Man, Oh Hi, Life of Chuck, Hedda, I Love LA, Too Much, Foundation Season 3, Die My Love, Sorry Baby, Sentimental Value, The Secrets We Bury, Hamnet, How to Train Your Dragon, Bring Her Back, Sinners. Just to name a few!

Thank you to everyone who listened to Last to Leave Season 4! 2025 was a very special year for the show and we couldn't be more grateful to our listeners, guests, and team. We are now on our hiatus between seasons, but check back later this year for announcements about season 5. 

Until then, see you film nerds!

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S4E18 - Caity Birmingham - Sorry, Baby - The Solarium in the Tiny Cottage: Reflections on the Power of Connection22 Dec 202500:48:43

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott and Zoey Danielson, as they are whisked away to a small New England town to explore the backdrops of one of the best indie films of 2025, Sorry, Baby. They're joined by the film's intrepid Production Designer, Caity Birmingham, whose process over product approach to creative problem solving on set was integral to creating the world of the film.

Sorry, Baby follows Agnes' stumbling path towards healing after a bad thing happened to them in grad school. Told through a series of vignettes across a four-year time span, the film offers meditations on trauma, participation in patriarchal systems, the importance of connection, and how one good sandwich can turn things around.

From scouting locations that made the 'oner' sequence logistically possible to papering a small cottage with the texture of occupants past & present, Caity's keen eye for detail and commitment to creating 360 degree spaces on set brought so much life to Eva Victor's debut feature film. 

You can follow Caity Birmingham on instagram at @playcait. Her website is caitybirmingham.com.

This episode is the finale of the fourth season of the show. Thank you to everyone who has listened this year! Don't fret though, film nerds! We will be back in the new year with a bonus episode all about our favorite movies of 2025. Until then... Happy Holidays, Film Nerds!

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S4E17 - Sharon Tabb - The Lowdown - Lived-In Looks and Lasting Stories15 Dec 202500:58:13

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott and Zoey Danielson, as they dive into the visual storytelling of makeup—or the intentional absence of it. Today, they’re joined by Sharon Tabb, the Makeup Department Head behind The Lowdown. Together, they explore the power of collaboration and how Sharon works closely with directors, actors, and fellow artists to create distinct, lived-in looks for each character, from purposeful eyeliner choices to the smallest details you might not notice.

Sharon also breaks down the art (and science) of creating realistic bruising, particularly for Ethan Hawke’s character, who takes more than a few hits over the course of the series. The conversation also touches on her incredible work on Reservation Dogs and what it means to shape stories through makeup in a way that feels honest, grounded, and deeply human.

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S4E16 - The Importance of Documentary Filmmaking Featuring Elly Schmidt-Hopper24 Nov 202501:09:37

Join your hosts, Heather and Zoey, as they dive into the world of documentaries with filmmaker and creator Elly Schmidt-Hopper. We first connected with Elly on TikTok after seeing her video about the current state of documentary filmmaking—and just how difficult it is to secure distribution, let alone funding.

From there, we dig into some of our favorite docs, ranging from No Other Land (2024) and The Gleaners and I (2000) to Roadrunner (2021), Beauty Is Embarrassing (2012), and more. Talking with Elly was a reminder of how special it is to connect with creatives who care this deeply... the whole conversation felt electric.

You can keep up with Elly on Instagram @schmidthopper and her website Spellbound Films! 

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S4E15 - The 'Clocked' Episode Featuring the Writer & Director, Noah Salzman10 Nov 202500:35:19

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they take an exclusive look at the queer indie film, Clocked, with the help of the Writer & Director, Noah Salzman.

Clocked tells the story of Adolpho, a boxer in Miami who embarks on a journey of self-discovery that leads them to reckoning with their trans identity and finding acceptance in the drag community. Noah describes this film as a look at a character who is in between families, misunderstood by their blood relations and on the precipice of finding a new family in the queer community. In this episode, Zoey & Heather delve into the making of Clocked and unpack the thoughtful choices behind this impactful, timely film.

You can keep up with Noah Salzman on his instagram @noahsalz_. 

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S4E14 - Tommy Maddox-Upshaw - Opus - The Everyday Power of Waking Up and Doing What You Love27 Oct 202501:04:47

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they dive into the visual poetry of A24’s Opus. Cinematographer Tommy Maddox-Upshaw takes us behind the lens — from capturing shots in the freezing cold to crafting color stories that speak louder than dialogue. He opens up about the artistry behind Opus and how his journey from growing up in Boston to shaping cinematic worlds continues to fuel his creative fire.

You can keep up with Tommy Maddox-Upshaw on his instagram @themaddoxdp

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S4E13 - Siena Brown - Companion - The Satisfaction of a Well-Made Plan13 Oct 202500:39:51

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they get the inside scoop on the making of the sci-fi thriller Companion (2025) and the intricacies of the work of the film's First Assistant Director, Siena Brown. In this episode, Zoey & Heather try not to fangirl too hard while Siena recounts her philosophy on running a successful set, collaborating with the director & crew, and pivoting when the plan inevitably goes sideways. 

You can keep up with Siena Brown on her instagram @siena.browntown

At the top of the episode, Zoey & Heather discuss the ICE raids in their home city of Chicago. If you are looking for resources to help, you can start here:

https://www.icirr.org/resources

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S4E12 - Joanna Osborn - Black Doves - Behind the Scenes and Breaking Barriers 22 Sep 202500:50:23

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they step into the world of production management with Joanna Osborn as their guide. With years of experience balancing the demands of high-level productions and the realities of motherhood, Joanna has become both a steady hand on set and a passionate advocate for working moms in the UK film industry. In this episode, Zoey & Heather learn all about Joanna’s time managing the intricate moving parts of Black Doves while also championing systemic change to make production more accessible for parents in film.

You can keep up with Joanna Osborn on instagram @jkozborn.

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S4E11 - Jillian Ennis - Woman of the Hour, MaXXXine - The Humble Brilliance of Music Supervision08 Sep 202500:40:32

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they embark on a sonic journey through the land of Music Supervision with Jillian Ennis as their guide. With an early love for pairing stories & meaningful music, Jillian was destined for a career in the music side of filmmaking and brings a reverence & thoughtfulness to each project. In this episode, Zoey & Heather learn all about Jillian's collaboration with Anna Kendrick on Woman of the Hour & Ti West on MaXXXine in order to procure the perfect soundtracks for both films. 

You can keep up with Jillian Ennis on instagram at @strangepeoplemusic or on her website: strange-people-music.com

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S4E10 - Elise Lockwood - Foe - Learning What It Means To Really Be A Fly On The Wall 25 Aug 202500:51:31

Join hosts Heather Elaine Abbott and Zoey Danielson as they explore the art of still photography on set with their guest, Elise Lockwood. From her early days as a ballerina to capturing cinematic moments behind the lens, Elise brings a unique eye, boundless enthusiasm, and genuine care to every project she touches.

You can follow Elise on Instagram here: @eliselockwoodphoto

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S4E9 - Julian Bivol - Heartstopper - Fuse Boxes, Extra Jackets, & Other Life Lessons From Set11 Aug 202500:30:40

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott and Zoey Danielson, as they dive into the world of location management with Julian Bivol as their guide! From his early days as a Location Marshall on Wonderwoman to his more recent work as an Assistant Location Manager on the third season of Heartstopper, Julian approaches each set with kindness, curiosity, and gratitude. With 10+ years in the locations department, Julian's career has been the very definition of those last to leave set. 

You can follow Julian Bivol on Instagram @julianbivol!

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S4E8 - Taylor Harris-Butler - Sing Sing - The Art of Rushing People21 Jul 202500:33:13

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott and Zoey Danielson, as they step inside the heart of Sing Sing, a quietly radical, deeply human film starring Colman Domingo and a cast of formerly incarcerated men telling their own story. In Part Two of our two-part Sing Sing special, we’re joined by Second Assistant Director, Taylor Harris-Butler (@taylorharbu), who leads us through the 15,000 steps she took on set each day. 

With charm and good humor, Taylor has perfected the art of rushing people to ensure that the production moves smoothly. From her owning the mistakes she's made to her rallying cries to dive in and pursue your passions, Taylor has abundant wisdom to share from her time working on Sing Sing and beyond.


A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S4E7 - Desira Pesta - Sing Sing - The Fabric of Becoming Human Again 21 Jul 202500:54:15

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott and Zoey Danielson, as they step inside the heart of Sing Sing, a quietly radical, deeply human film starring Colman Domingo and a cast of formerly incarcerated men telling their own story. In Part One of our two-part Sing Sing special, we’re joined by costume designer Desira Pesta (@desirapesta), who helps us unpack the film’s layered beauty, one look at a time.

From sourcing prison uniforms to designing theatrical dreamscapes, Desira reveals how she built a wardrobe rooted in truth, care, and collaboration. We talk about the intimacy of fittings, the power of clothing to transform and transport, and what it means to honor real people through costume.

Plus, Desira shares what it was like to work with director Greg Kwedar and the cast inside the actual Sing Sing prison proving that costume design can be just as emotionally resonant as the script itself.

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S4E6 - Greg Ng & Graham Fortin - Longlegs & The Monkey - Stepping into Osgood Perkins' Dreamland07 Jul 202500:39:54

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott and Zoey Danielson, as they fall headfirst into the distorted dreamlands of Osgood Perkins' films, Longlegs & The Monkey. In this episode, Zoey and Heather are guided by the co-editors of both movies, Greg Ng & Graham Fortin, on a journey to the heart of these twisted and oh so creative horror films. Whether you're a horror fanatic or just love to get into the weeds on building a sequence, this interview is definitely a gift from the church!

You can follow Greg at @greg_ng_editor & Graham at @grahamfo on Instagram!


A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S4E5 - Anna Phoebe & Aisling Brouwer - The Buccaneers - The Sound of Rebellion: Girlhood in the Gilded Age23 Jun 202501:10:54

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott and Zoey Danielson, as they dive headfirst into the lush, chaotic, and achingly beautiful world of The Buccaneers—a show that stuns on every level, from its sweeping score to its corset-clad costumes and sun-drenched cinematography. And who better to lead the way than the sonic sorceresses behind the music? Composers Anna Phoebe and Aisling Brouwer—also known as the dream duo AVAWAVES—stop by to talk about building the show’s romantic, rebellious sound from the ground up.

We unpack the musical DNA of the series’ Gilded Age-meets-modern vibe, how they thread heartbreak and euphoria through a single chord, and why composing for female-led stories just hits harder. Plus, the duo drops some tiny hints about what’s coming in Season 2—so consider this your official spoiler warning.


A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S4E4 - David Schlesinger & Jeanelle Marie - Severance - The Mysterious & Important Work of Set Decoration09 Jun 202500:25:06

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott and Zoey Danielson, as they sit down with David Schlesinger (Set Decorator) and Jeanelle Marie (Assistant Set Decorator) to explore the worlds they helped build in the second season of Apple TV's hit show, Severance.

In this episode, Zoey and Heather get a peek behind the curtain at the triumphs and challenges of the set decoration department while creating the look of Lumon's testing floor, the Eagan mansion, and one very tricky vending machine. 

Yes, there are spoilers for Season 2 so be warned!

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S4E3 - Sam Strauss and Sylvia Warmer - Apple Cider Vinegar - Green Juices, Great Lies, and the Social Media Bible26 May 202500:59:56

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott and Zoey Danielson, as they sit down with Sam Strauss (writer, creator, and showrunner) and Sylvia Warmer (post production supervisor) to dive into the making of Netflix’s Apple Cider Vinegar — the sharp, satirical series inspired by the wild true story of Belle Gibson.

In this episode, Zoey and Heather get the inside scoop on how the show was developed from concept to screen and the writing process behind it, building a full-fledged social media bible, and why media literacy matters now more than ever. It’s a juicy one.

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S4E2 - Philip Messina - Heretic - The DIY Murder House12 May 202500:34:51

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott and Zoey Danielson, as they chat with Philip Messina about his vision for creating the physical manifestation of Mr. Reed's darkest thoughts as the Production Designer on Heretic.

In this episode, Zoey and Heather learn all about Philip's dedication to championing a good story throughout his career on films like Erin Brockovich, Ocean's 11, The Hunger Games Franchise, Mother!, and of course, his first foray into horror - Heretic. 

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S4E1 - Bianca Butti - Challengers - The One Where The Camera COULD Explode 28 Apr 202500:48:40

Welcome back for Season FOUR, film nerds!
If you’ve been with us since the beginning, thank you — we appreciate you SO much. And if you’re new here, welcome! We’re so happy to have you. This is a safe space for film lovers of all kinds.

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott and Zoey Danielson, as they kick off the season with a conversation with Bianca Butti (website, IMDB), the A Camera Operator behind the iconic visuals of Luca Guadagnino’s Challengers.

In this episode, Zoey and Heather dive into what it really means to be an A Camera Operator, how some scenes were filmed like beautifully choreographed dances, and how they captured the unforgettable New Rochelle Ball POV scene (oh yeah — you know the one).

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

The Oscar Nominated 'A Lien' Episode Featuring Cinematographer Andrea Gavazzi 02 Mar 202501:03:18

Join hosts Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson as they sit down with cinematographer Andrea Gavazzi to discuss his work on the Oscar-nominated short film A Lein!

A Lein pulls you into the high-stakes intensity of a green card interview—one that could change three lives forever. Directed by critically acclaimed filmmakers Sam and David Cutler-Kreutz, this award-winning short is both a love story and a powerful commentary on a system built to divide rather than unite.

In this episode, Zoey and Heather dive into the art of shooting a short film, the challenges and triumphs of independent filmmaking, and, of course, what it feels like to be nominated for an Oscar… and that’s just the beginning!

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

The Movies We Loved In 202431 Dec 202400:39:13

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they reminisce about all of the incredible popcorn buckets that came into their lives this past year... oh and all of the films too! That's right! It's time for an end of the year yap session about the movies that hit for Zoey & Heather in 2024.

Films Discussed: Dune: Part Two, The Watchers, Challengers, Inside Out 2, Woman of the Hour, The Outrun, Trap, Longlegs, Civil War, Anora, Late Night with the Devil, A Real Pain, Wicked, The Substance, Sing Sing, and I Saw The TV Glow

Thank you to everyone who has listened this past year and we can't wait to come back for more interviews in 2025!

Until then, you can always keep up with our personal film escapades on Letterboxd:
Heather's Letterboxd
Zoey's Letterboxd

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

The Movies That Haunted Us31 Oct 202401:08:25

Join hosts Heather Elaine Abbott and Zoey Danielson as they explore the chilling depths of ghostly cinema in this special bonus episode of Last to Leave. From the terrifying reflections of Oculus (2013) to the submerged horrors of The Deep House (2021), these films have left a haunting mark. Dive in as Zoey and Heather share spine-tingling encounters, insights into the 'King of Ghosts' Mike Flanagan, and essential survival tips for facing the paranormal. Dare to listen... if you can handle the chills! 

These films are scary and deal with some heavy stuff so peep these content warnings, film nerds!

CW: Death, Murder, Domestic Violence and Claustrophobia


A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S3E14 - The 'Boca Chica' Episode Featuring Gabriella A. Moses & Cecilia Delgado26 Aug 202400:48:58

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they chat with Gabriella A. Moses, the director, and Cecilia Delgado, the editor, all about their new indie drama/coming of age film, Boca Chica! In this episode, Zoey & Heather dive into the world of international independent filmmaking and learn all about the process of bringing this beautiful film to life.

Filmed in the Dominican Republic and championed by a powerhouse team of female filmmakers, Boca Chica follows Desi, a 12 year old girl who spends her days dreaming on the beaches of her hometown of becoming a famous singer. When a lavish wedding reunites her family, her goal is threatened by lies, the ever-presence of child prostitution, and the looming sinister betrayal from those who should protect her most.

Boca Chica premiered at the Tribecca Film Festival in 2023 and Gabriella won the prestigious Nora Ephron award. It is currently on the festival circuit and will be at the NVision Film Festival in Palm Springs, CA in October and the New Orleans Film Festival in early November. Announcements are coming soon about renting and streaming the film, so go follow Gabriella, Cecilia, and Boca Chica on socials to stay up to date!

Keep up with the team on Instagram at:
Gabriella at @missmadhatter005
Cecilia at @amcdp_
Boca Chica at @bocachicafilm

We will be taking a cute lil hiatus, but don't worry! We will be back before you know it! Until then, share the show with someone you love, rate & review it to help us grow, and go watch some ding dang movies! 

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S3E13 - James Philpott - Death and Other Details - The One Where We Lose A Horse05 Aug 202400:50:28

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they chat with James Philpott about his work as the Production Designer on Death and Other Details! 

In this episode, Zoey and Heather explore the intricacies of bringing a luxury cruise ship to life, delve into the essence of Art Deco, and discuss how to dream like a Production Designer.

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S3E12 - Leah Katznelson - Genie - The One Where We Celebrate Christmas In July22 Jul 202400:46:25

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they chat with Leah Katznelson about her work as the Costume Designer on the newest LTL Pick for Favorite Christmas Movie, Genie! A Christmas movie in July, you ask? That's right! We are bringing a bit of holiday cheer to this hot summer. 

In this episode, Zoey & Heather dive into Leah's inspiration and process for creating the incredible looks worn by Melissa McCarthy's Genie while bonding over their shared predisposition towards curiosity. 

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S3E11 - Katherine Jakeways - The Buccaneers - The One With Hair Baubles, Friendship, and Finally Feeling Full08 Jul 202401:14:53

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they chat with Katherine Jakeways about her work as the Creator, Executive Producer and Writer of The Buccaneers! In this episode, Zoey and Heather dive into the powerful and beautiful world of The Buccaneers and why it was important to include queer characters, the epic all-female soundtrack and we finally end the debate on whether Zoey is Team 'Gan' or Team 'Than'. 

You can keep up with Katherine on Twitter (@katherinejake) and IMDB and keep an eye out for The Buccaneers Season 2! 


A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S3E10 - Deven MacNair - Bottoms - The One Where Gays Do Their Own Stunts24 Jun 202400:20:42

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they chat with Deven Macnair about her work as the Stunt Coordinator on the LTL Certified Romp, Bottoms! In this episode, Zoey & Heather learn what it takes to move up in the world of stunts and get the tea about the making of the iconic fight sequences that we all love! Heather & Zoey would also like everyone to know that we need more Lesbian Romps and if no one is gonna make 'em, they sure will! Happy Pride, Babes!

Content Warning: Brief References to SA


A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S3E9 - Jason Oldak - Lessons in Chemistry - The One With The Dog, The Two-Handed Frog and Found Family10 Jun 202400:54:52

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they chat with Jason Oldak about his work as the Director of Photography on episodes 3, 4, 7 and 8 of Lessons in Chemistry! In this episode, Zoey and Heather dive into the world of cinematography through Jason’s process of conceptualizing the show's unique aesthetic while working with a Co-DP! They also get the tea about what it takes to craft the most magical set gifts.

You can keep up with Jason on his instagram @jasonoldak or his website: jasonoldak.com

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S3E8 - Thibault Deboaisne - Anatomy of a Fall - The One Where We Summer At A French Chalet27 May 202400:26:10

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they chat with Thibault Deboaisne about his work as the Music Supervisor on Anatomy of a Fall! In this episode, Zoey & Heather dig into the effective use of diegetic music to score the film and uncover the true killer of Samuel.... Just kidding! However, Thibault does reveal the original song that was intended for the opening scene before they landed on P.I.M.P.

Content Warning: Brief mentions of suicide in reference to the plot of Anatomy of a Fall

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S3E7 - The ‘Molli And Max In The Future’ Episode Featuring Michael Lukk Litwak & Joanna Naugle09 Feb 202401:04:52

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they chat with Michael Lukk Litwak & Joanna Naugle all about their new indie sci-fi rom-com feature, Molli And Max In The Future! In this episode, Zoey & Heather absolutely gush about their adoration for this delightful comedy with so much heart. As the Writer/Director/Producer on the film, Michael provides a delightful peek into the world of miniatures, visual effects, and grit that brought the film together. Returning to the show for her second time, Joanna offers eloquent insight into her approach to editing the film. 


Molli And Max In The Future is out in theatres today! You simply have to go see it and support the hard work and creativity that makes the film soar. Find where it is showing near you here: https://www.michaellitwak.com/


You can follow Michael at @michaellitwak on Instagram to keep up with his work. You can also follow @molliandmax on Instagram. There's so much behind the scenes content on both accounts, enjoy!

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

The Movies We Loved In 202329 Dec 202300:21:32

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they reminisce about what a great year it has been for CINEMA! In this episode, Zoey & Heather chat through their favorite films of the year from honorable mentions to top fives and get just a tad giddy about how much they love movies.

CW: Brief Mention of CSA in regards to May December (2023)

Films Discussed: You Are So Not Invited to My Bat Mitzvah, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle: Mutant Mayhem, Barbie, No Hard Feelings, Scream VI, Bottoms, Oppenheimer, Saltburn, Eileen, May December, Beau is Afraid, The Marvels, Renaissance: A Film By Beyoncé, Talk to Me, Genie, Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves, Waitress: The Musical, Anatomy of a Fall, Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse, and Past Lives. 

2023 has been a great year for our little show & we cannot wait to see what 2024 brings! See you in the New Year, Film Nerds!

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S3E6 - Elise Brown - Yellowjackets - The One Where We Learn How To Set The Vibe04 Dec 202300:43:01

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they chat with Elise Brown about her work as a Writer on the iconic show Yellowjackets! In this episode, Zoey & Heather get INTO all things writers room, rituals to get into your flow and how connections are everything... Except maybe when it comes to living in a cannibalistic wilderness with your teammates.

We also talk more about how nothing is wasted, an official Last to Leave motto!

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S3E5 - Joanna Naugle - The Bear - The One Where The Bear Strikes Back23 Nov 202300:45:07

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they chat with Joanna Naugle about her work as an Editor on The Bear! In this episode, Zoey & Heather dive deep into the editing bay with Joanna to learn all about how the iconic style of The Bear is created and how she conquers her fear of a blank sequence. They also uncover how one of the Star Wars sequels inspired the second season of Carmy Berzatto's journey.

You can keep up with Joanna's work on her website!

Also, how could we forget? Happy Thanksgiving, Film Nerds! May your holiday end without forks being thrown or cars driving into the house!

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S3E4 - Aaron McLisky - Talk to Me - The One Where Zoey Got So Scared She Broke An AMC Chair31 Oct 202300:39:42

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they chat with Aaron McLisky about his work as the Cinematographer on LTL Certified Favorite, Talk to Me (2023). In this episode, Zoey & Heather learn all about the fast-paced, collaborative process that was integral to creating this phenomenal film. Happy Halloween, Film Nerds!

Content Warning: Horror Imagery, Discussions of Addiction, Discussions of Suicide

You can keep up with Aaron's work on his Instagram at @aaronmclisky!

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S3E3 - Luci Leary - The Menu - The One Where We Learn About Laser-Cut Tortillas16 Oct 202300:40:33

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they chat with Luci Leary about her time as the Property Master on the iconic film, and Last to Leave favorite, The Menu. In this Episode, Zoey & Heather learn what it takes to print a photo on a tortilla, the fine line between Set Decoration and Props and the magic of an Alfonso Gomez-Rejon set.


You can keep up with Luci's work on her IMDB.
*This was recorded months ago at the beginning of the Writers Strike and is why there is no mention of the SAG-AFTRA strike.

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S3E2 - Rebecca Leigh Adams - Oppenheimer - The One Where We Fill Oppenheimer's Pockets With Beans26 Sep 202300:38:44

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they chat with Rebecca Leigh Adams in the second part of our Barbenheimer celebration! Rebecca is a Set Costumer who worked on the oh so iconic film, Oppenheimer. In this episode, Zoey & Heather learn all about Rebecca’s admiration for Christopher Nolan, her creative solutions to make clean clothes look worn, and how she unwinds after a marathon day on set.


You can keep up with Rebecca's work on her IMDB.

Listen to the end for an impassioned speech about the importance of the WGA & SAG strikes! 

Thank you for joining us for a brand new season! We will see you in October for a couple of very exciting interviews with creatives that you didn’t know you loved.

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

S3E1 - The Assistant Editors of Barbie - The One Where We Learn About Greta Gerwig's True North25 Sep 202300:47:40

Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson, as they interview Nicholas Ramirez, Lara Channon, Gloria Tello, Maya Rivera and Jaime Sukonnik in the first part of our Barbenheimer celebration! These incredible individuals make up the large majority of Assistant Editing Department for your favorite summer flick, Barbie. In this episode, Zoey and Heather learn what it takes to get into the world of editing, all the different time zones it took to create this iconic film and what the magic of Barbie means.

We are so excited to be kicking off part one of our two part season three premiere! Join us tomorrow for another incredible episode.

Thank you for joining us for a brand new season! We will see you in October for a couple of very exciting interviews with creatives you didn't know you loved!

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo and to M.L. Abbott (@MLAbbottWrites on Twitter) for our theme song.


You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here:

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram

@TheHAbbott on Instagram

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

@LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


Become parasocial friends with us:
@Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

@TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

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