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Your landscaping company may have better people, better equipment, bigger projects, and better customers than it did 15 years ago, but does your brand still look like the company you used to be?

In this episode, Chad Diller talks with designer and brand leader Ben Richardson about when an established green industry company should consider updating its visual identity. They discuss why owners hold onto outdated logos, what makes a brand feel dated, and why a rebrand doesn't have to mean replacing every truck wrap, uniform, sign, and marketing asset overnight.

Ben and Chad also break down the branding process behind Salt & Soil Garden Company and explain how thoughtful decisions around color, typography, iconography, audience, and company personality can create a brand that better reflects where a business is headed.

Key discussion points:

• Why successful companies often outgrow their original visual identity

• How branding becomes more important as a company scales

• Common green industry branding clichés and design mistakes

• Why your logo shouldn't have to explain every service you offer

• The importance of understanding your audience before designing anything

• How Salt & Soil used a flamingo, pink color palette, and subtle landscape elements to stand apart

• The three core elements you can evolve: logo/icon, typography, and color

• How to phase a rebrand instead of replacing everything at once

• Why digital assets are often the easiest place to begin

• How employees and outside perspectives can improve the rebranding process

• Why simplicity matters when a logo needs to work on trucks, apparel, embroidery, websites, and more

0:00 Intro
1:20 Meet Ben Richardson
4:40 Creating the Salt & Soil Brand
6:35 Why Companies Hold Onto Outdated Branding
10:00 The Cost and Value of Rebranding
12:30 What Makes a Brand Timeless?
14:05 Green Industry Branding Trends and Clichés
17:35 Should Your Brand Have a Mascot?
19:25 What to Know Before Designing a New Logo
21:20 Behind the Salt & Soil Branding Process
26:35 How to Rebrand an Established Company
30:20 Three Elements That Can Transform a Brand
31:40 How to Phase in a New Brand Over Time
34:15 Where Business Owners Should Start
37:35 Who Should Be Involved in a Rebrand?
41:05 Signs Your Logo Needs to Be Redesigned
43:25 Why Simpler Logos Usually Work Better
45:40 Final Thoughts: Having the Courage to Rebrand

Your green industry company may have a website…but is it actually the website your company needs? And more importantly, do you truly own what you're paying an agency to build?

In this episode, Chad Diller sits down with Landscape Leadership® Digital Project Manager Kaitlin Funke to unpack what goes into building a website for a lawn care, landscaping, tree service, or other green industry company. They discuss everything from strategy, SEO, copywriting, design, photography, and development to the often-overlooked role the client needs to play in the process.

They also explain why a website should be viewed as a long-term business asset - not simply another marketing expense - and why ownership matters when choosing an agency and technology platform.

Key discussion points:

• Why great websites require more than an attractive design

• The three things contractors need to "own" during a website project

• Why professional photography and video are valuable long-term marketing assets

• The problems with cookie-cutter website templates

• Why your website needs to be easy to update and portable

• How hundreds of thin or repetitive SEO pages can create problems

• Why fewer, stronger website pages can sometimes be the better strategy

• Questions to ask an agency before hiring them to build your website

• What green industry companies need to contribute during a website project

• Why specific, consolidated, timely feedback keeps projects moving

• How delays on the client side can derail a website launch

0:00 Intro
1:10 Meet Kaitlin Funke
3:28 What "Ownership" Means in a Website Project
4:32 What a Digital Project Manager Actually Does
6:13 Turning Marketing Strategy Into a Website
7:06 The 3 Things You Need to Own
8:20 Why Great Photography and Video Matter
10:05 Planning Visuals Around Your Website
11:50 Why You Should Actually Own Your Website
12:50 Custom Websites vs. Templates
15:30 Building a Custom Website That's Easy to Manage
18:26 The Problem With Proprietary Website Platforms
19:55 When Your Website Has Too Many Pages
21:52 Simplifying Your Website Without Sacrificing SEO
24:10 What You Should Own After Launch
25:10 Questions to Ask Before Hiring a Website Agency
26:00 Your Responsibility in the Website Project
28:25 How to Give Your Agency Better Feedback
31:55 Handling Creative Disagreements
32:45 How Much Involvement Does a Website Require?
33:25 Why Website Projects Get Delayed
34:10 What to Know Before Starting a Website Redesign
35:14 Own Your Visuals, Website, and Role

You hired an experienced salesperson, gave them a few weeks of ride-alongs, handed them a territory….and six months later, it's just not working. What went wrong?

In this episode of the Landscape Leadership® Podcast, Chad Diller talks with Kayla Lujan, founder of GRIT (Green Industry Talent), about why new salespeople struggle to gain traction in landscaping and other green industry businesses. Kayla draws on 17 years of industry experience, from working on a crew to leading sales for a top 25 landscape company, to explain why hiring the right person is only the beginning.

We unpack what effective onboarding actually looks like, why sales managers need to coach behaviors instead of simply managing numbers, and what owners should realistically expect during a salesperson's first 30, 60, and 90 days. They also challenge a long-held green industry hiring assumption: Your next great salesperson may not need green industry experience at all.

Key discussion points:

• Why ride-alongs alone aren't an onboarding program

• How to create clear objectives and expectations for new sales hires

• Why information overload can stall a new salesperson

• The difference between managing sales numbers and coaching the behaviors that produce them

• Why sales leaders need to spend intentional time in the field with their team

• How stronger personal relationships make sales coaching more effective

• What owners should expect at 30, 60, and 90 days

• Why industry experience isn't necessarily the best predictor of sales success

• The traits Kayla looks for when hiring salespeople

• What separates good salespeople from great ones

• Why you can't hire your way out of a people-development problem

0:00 Intro
0:42 Meet Kayla Lujan
2:20 Hiring Is Where the Work Begins
3:57 Early Warning Signs in Sales Onboarding
5:12 Why Ride-Alongs Aren't Enough
8:47 Building a Roadmap for New Salespeople
10:18 Managing Numbers vs. Coaching Behaviors
14:16 Why Sales Leaders Need to Get in the Field
16:54 Building Trust Before You Coach
19:40 Are Owners Expecting Results Too Quickly?
21:12 What to Expect in the First 30, 60 & 90 Days
23:02 Where Should You Find Great Salespeople?
24:54 Stop Making Sales a Dumping Ground
27:44 Can Great Sales Skills Be Taught?
29:23 Rapid-Fire Sales Leadership Advice
31:27 How GRIT Helps Green Industry Sales Teams
33:02 The Real Key to Developing Great Salespeople

A lot of landscaping companies create one or two videos and stop. But what happens when you commit to creating video content consistently for more than a decade?

In this episode, we sit down with Marion Delano of Level Green Landscaping to discuss how more than 70 videos have transformed their sales process, recruiting, company culture, and brand. Rather than treating video as a one-time marketing project, Level Green built a long-term content library that supports nearly every stage of the customer and employee journey. Marion shares practical lessons on planning, production, ROI, and why authentic storytelling continues to outperform polished sales pitches.

If you're trying to win property managers, builders, and high-value landscape clients with cookies, brochures, golf balls, and generic swag, you're probably blending in with everyone else.

In this episode, Mark Stern shares why the future of business development isn't about doing more outreach; it's about creating memorable experiences that prospects actually want to engage with.

Mark Stern, founder of Custom Box Agency, joins Chad Diller to discuss how landscape companies can differentiate themselves in a crowded marketplace. Instead of relying on traditional sales tactics and promotional items that quickly get forgotten, Mark explains how intentional customer experiences, physical touchpoints, and strategic storytelling can help companies stand out.

The conversation explores the psychology behind what people keep, why most business development efforts fail to create meaningful connections, and how combining physical and digital experiences can create stronger relationships with prospects. Mark also shares practical examples of how businesses can become trusted advisors rather than just another vendor competing for attention.

• Why most promotional swag gets ignored

• The difference between effort and intentionality

• How to create memorable customer experiences

• The psychology behind the products people keep

• Building authority before asking for a meeting

• Combining physical and digital touchpoints

• Why strategic partners outperform transactional vendors

• The importance of multiple touchpoints in sales

• Using customer stories to build trust

• How to become the comparison point in your market

Lawn care, landscaping, and tree service companies focus on what a marketing agency does…but overlook who is actually doing the work. That mistake can cost you years of wasted budget and stalled growth.

In this episode, we pull back the curtain on the role of account managers at Landscape Leadership and explain why the people managing your marketing strategy can make or break your results. Our team shares real-world insights from sales, operations, and multi-market campaign experience, and how that translates into better leads, stronger relationships, and long-term growth.

If you're hiring (or currently working with) a marketing partner, this episode will change the questions you ask…and the expectations you should have.

• Why your account manager matters more than your marketing strategy

• How real field experience improves marketing performance

• The impact of geography and seasonality on campaign success

• Why too many decision-makers can derail your marketing

• How to simplify complex marketing data into actionable insights

• The importance of proactive strategy vs. reactive execution

• When and how to pivot marketing plans mid-season

• The advantage of having one integrated marketing partner

• Common mistakes contractors make before increasing marketing spend

Many landscaping companies struggle to stand out in crowded markets and end up competing on price. In this episode, Chad sits down with Lex Mason from WeatherMatic to discuss how companies can reposition themselves, narrow their focus, and build a more profitable business.

Lex shares how WeatherMatic evolved from a traditional irrigation manufacturer into a technology and solutions company and the lessons contractors can apply to their own businesses. They break down practical strategies for niching down, choosing the right clients, and escaping the commodity trap.

If you're a contractor trying to grow, simplify operations, or increase margins, this episode offers clear steps you can start implementing today.

• Why landscaping companies become commodities and how to avoid it

• The power of niching down in the green industry

• How WeatherMatic repositioned its entire business

• Why customer experience and onboarding matter more than sales

• Structuring pricing and billing around how your clients get paid

• How to identify and focus on your ideal client profile (ICP)

• Why firing the wrong clients can accelerate growth

• The importance of defining your company's core proficiency

• Why maintenance divisions create stability and profitability

• A simple A/B/C framework for evaluating your client list

If you've ever left a peer group meeting fired up with ideas… but made zero real progress after, this episode is for you.

In this conversation, Chad sits down with Jeffrey Scott to unpack why some green industry leaders transform their businesses through peer groups, while others stay stuck. They dive into clarity vs. confidence, how to filter ideas through strategy, and why copying other successful companies can quietly kill your momentum. This episode is about disciplined decision-making, strategic focus, and becoming the kind of leader who doesn't just gather insights, but turns them into results.

Key Discussion Points:

• Why "you get out what you put in" is painfully true in peer groups

• The danger of solving the wrong problem (and how to ask better questions)

• Why not every good idea is a good fit or the right priority

• How OKRs create strategic clarity inside growing landscape companies

• The psychological trap of comparison in the green industry

• Why saying "no" is often more powerful than saying "yes"

• What a strong execution plan actually looks like (who does what by when)

• The role vulnerability and transparency play in high-level peer groups

Most green industry owners think a profitable company automatically means a sellable one, but buyers see things very differently.

In this episode, we sit down with Dan Mello, former owner of Seacoast Tree Care and Seacoast Turf Care, to unpack what it really takes to build a buyable green industry business. Dan shares how he grew his company by over 280%, intentionally increased enterprise value, and ultimately exited successfully through private equity. They dive into the operational, financial, leadership, and marketing decisions that positioned the business for acquisition, including hard lessons learned along the way. This conversation offers a rare, behind-the-scenes look at building a company people actually want to buy. 

Key Discussion Points

• Why most green industry businesses aren't actually built to survive due diligence

• The role of recurring revenue in increasing enterprise value

• Leadership mistakes, personal growth, and separating identity from the business

• How systemized operations and strong financials attract buyers

• Why branding and professional marketing impact valuation, not just lead volume

• What private equity buyers look for in tree and lawn care companies

• Building a management team that allows the business to run without the owner

Most green industry podcasts never achieve their full potential because they look amateur and lack a clear point of view. Some even disappear after a few episodes. If you've ever said, "We should start a podcast," but had no idea what comes next, this episode gives you the exact roadmap. And if you have a podcast but it's falling flat, this insight-packed episode is just what you need to become a leading voice in the industry!

In this episode, Landscape Leadership® CEO Chad Diller sits down with podcasting expert and Multimedia Producer Scot Leonard to unpack the three pillars behind building a high-quality, video-first podcast that actually grows your brand. They break down how to define your POV, choose the right format, nail your camera, lighting and audio setup, and structure episodes so your audience stays engaged. 

You'll learn the biggest mistakes new podcasters make, how to elevate production without overcomplicating gear, and how to repurpose every episode into a full content ecosystem. Whether you're a contractor, marketer, or industry partner, this is the definitive guide to launching a podcast that stands out in the green industry.

• Why most podcasts fail before Episode 20

• The role of POV and strategy in standing out

• Choosing a winning format: solo, guest, or co-hosted

• Why video-first is now mandatory

• Essential gear: audio > lighting > camera

• The importance of pre-production & outlines

• Smart, human-sounding editing (avoid the AI "slop")

• How to extract 10–20 pieces of content from every episode

Chapters:

0:00 Why Most Podcasts Fail (and How to Fix It)

0:21 The 3 Pillars of a High-Performing Podcast

0:47 Welcome to the Landscape Leadership Podcast

1:23 Meet Scot Leonard: B2B Podcast Producer

2:05 What DIY Podcasting Gets Wrong

3:12 Building a Green Industry Podcast Network

4:05 Podcast Strategy: POV, Audience, Differentiation

6:20 How to Stand Out in a Noisy Market

8:44 Choosing the Right Podcast Format

9:36 Solo vs. Guest vs. Co-Hosted: What Works Best

14:30 Why Every Modern Podcast Must Be Video-First

16:36 YouTube SEO & the Rise of Video Podcasts

19:32 Trust, Body Language & On-Camera Communication

20:02 Pre-Production Essentials: Outlines & Episode Flow

21:46 The Danger of "Just Hitting Record"

25:06 Production Basics: Audio, Lighting, Cameras

26:59 Mic Quality: The #1 Investment You Must Make

28:50 Lighting Do's, Don'ts & Easy Fixes

31:40 Camera Choices: 4K, Angles & Content Creator Gear

34:06 Multi-Camera Editing for a Pro Look

38:43 Smart Editing: AI Tools, Filler Words & Natural Pacing

44:52 Podcast Growth: Why Episode 20 Matters

46:30 Promotion Strategy: Beyond "Post and Pray"

47:35 Repurposing: Clips, Carousels & Articles

50:06 Using Your Podcast as a Full Content Engine

53:11 Final Thoughts & How to Work With Us

You want better leaders in your landscaping business—but the best candidates are slipping away. And the worst part? You may have no idea why.

In this episode, Chad Diller talks with Tito Caceres of Bloom Talent Solutions to dig into what's really costing green industry companies their best mid- and upper-level candidates. From outdated hiring practices to branding missteps, this conversation is a must-watch for any contractor struggling to attract and retain strong leaders. Learn how to speed up hiring, build better interview processes, and showcase your company as a place where top talent wants to work.

Key Discussion Points:

• Why mid- and upper-level roles are harder than ever to fill

• The shift in how candidates research your company

• How slow interview processes quietly kill your recruitment

• What contractors must fix about their online presence

• How recruiters add value—and why some get a bad rap
  

Chapters:

0:00 Intro

0:50 Meet Tito Caceres

2:00 Why recruiting mid-level talent is so hard right now

5:30 Common mistakes companies make in hiring

8:00 How AI and slow processes are hurting your chances

11:00 Where candidates are really looking for jobs now

13:00 Why branding and digital presence matter

15:00 What a great interview process looks like

21:00 Employer branding: telling your company's story

27:00 Creating career paths that attract top talent

30:00 Understanding how recruiters fit into your hiring strategy

36:00 Red flags to watch for in bad recruiting practices

41:00 Final tips: What you can do today to improve hiring

The green industry is addicted to growth, but at what cost? In this brutally honest episode, we expose the uncomfortable reality behind some of the industry's most celebrated success stories.

We sit down with Michael Tomaino, owner of LandCrafters Florida, to have a raw, no-nonsense conversation about how the landscaping industry is prioritizing profit over people, and what needs to change. Michael shares his journey from consulting to landscaping, how his upside-down org chart puts crews first, and why so many industry veterans are questioning everything. This episode challenges the status quo and offers a blueprint for building a company people actually want to work for, and stay with.

Key Discussion Points:

• How to build a landscape company that truly puts people first
  
  

• The downside of chasing revenue at the expense of your team
  
  

• Why "growth at all costs" is destroying culture and retention
  
  

• Tangible strategies for recognition, retention, and incentives
  
  

• How promoting from within builds trust with both clients and crews
  
  

• Why most private equity deals in landscaping are short-sighted
  
  

• What a sustainable landscape business actually looks like

What makes a landscape company truly valuable—and why do so many owners get it wrong?

In this episode of the Landscape Leadership Podcast, CEO Chad Diller sits down with Jeff Harkness, founder of 3PG Advisors, to break down the five key drivers of enterprise value in the lawn and landscape industry. Jeff has facilitated over $1 billion in M&A deals and works closely with top-performing green industry businesses to help them scale smarter and increase their market value.

Whether you're planning to sell your business or simply want to build something more scalable, profitable, and self-sustaining, this episode is packed with practical insights. Chad and Jeff cover:

• The biggest misconceptions about revenue, value, and growth

• Why clean financials and strong leadership teams matter more than ever

• How recurring revenue and operational systems impact your company's worth

• The surprising role marketing plays in valuation and deal negotiations

• Why companies without a strategic plan struggle to attract serious buyers

This is an unfiltered conversation every landscape business owner should hear—especially if you want to build a company that attracts top talent, retains customers, and creates real legacy.

Listen in, take notes, and start building with intention.

You could run the best lawn care or landscaping company in town... but if your brand looks outdated, confusing, or just plain boring, you're losing business before the first phone call. In this episode, I'm joined by branding expert John Dalton of McFarland Stanford—someone who's helped rebrand billion-dollar companies like FedEx—to talk about the hidden messages your visual branding is sending (and why it matters more than you think).

We dive into:

• Why tree icons and old fonts aren't doing you any favors

• The simple formula big brands use to create unforgettable impressions

• How your truck wrap could be accidentally camouflaging your business

• Practical (and affordable) ways to refresh your brand without rewrapping your whole fleet overnight

If you've ever wondered whether your brand is helping or hurting you—or if you've just had that nagging feeling that your 20-year-old logo might be the mullet of marketing—this episode is for you.

Ready to make sure your brand is saying the right thing? Hit play.

🔗 Connect with John Dalton and the McFarland Stanford team: https://mcfarlinstanford.com/

🔗 Need help bringing your brand to life through powerful marketing?
Visit https://www.landscapeleadership.com/ or find me, Chad Diller, on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/chad-diller/

In this episode, we tackle a critical issue for lawn care and landscaping businesses—trademarks. What happens when another company trademarks your business name? It's not just theoretical; it has happened, and the consequences can be devastating. Chad Diller from Landscape Leadership® sits down with trademark attorney, Richard Rimer, to discuss how to protect your brand, avoid costly rebrands, and defend against trademark disputes. Learn what you can and can't trademark, the risks of skipping legal protection, and how to secure your business's future. If you own a green industry business, you need to hear this.

You may think you're prepared to sell landscaping to prospects, but you could be losing out. Get expert tips to customize your approach to sell more landscaping with less aggravation. Join 25+ year green industry veteran, Chad Diller and sales trainer, T.M. Dickinson as they share practical advice to connect more deeply with prospective clients and maximize your potential. 

 Learn about the sales and marketing services Landscape Leadership provides for our clients https://www.landscapeleadership.com/

Joshua Malik ran a successful tree service but was struggling to grow his lawn care business. Fast forward and Joshua Tree Experts has grown by over 1000% and has expanded into multiple states. Join Landscape Leadership's president, Chad Diller, as he gets Josh to share some keys to their amazing success.

In this episode, Chad Diller and green industry consultant, Jeffrey Scott explore how adding too many services at your lawn care or landscaping company can hurt your brand, profit, and company culture. 

Are you wasting time as an unpaid landscaping consultant? Find out how these process and technology additions can help you sell more landscaping projects. Visit the Landscape Leadership website for more resources mentioned in this episode. 

Check out these essential questions to find the best marketing agency for your landscaping or lawn care business. Get an expert vs. a typical partner.

In this episode Chris addresses a particular frustration for business owners in the lawn and landscape industry: working too many hours while not making enough money.

We discuss:

• The purpose and reason for operating a business
• Topline revenue vs. bottom-line profit
• The concept of Limited Capacity
• The principles of supply and demand

In this episode of Smarketing Talk we discuss content marketing for lawn care and landscaping companies with a test if it's thoughtful or thoughtless.

Chris Heiler, CEO, and Chad Diller, Director of Client Success, of Landscape Leadership offer up some timely, practical sales and marketing advice landscape industry professionals will find valuable during these trying and unusual times.

Lawn and landscape industry companies are still making some basic, but big, mistakes when it comes to SEO. We dive into those in this episode of SmarketingTalk.

Using social media to market your lawn and landscape industry business. Tips for using Facebook, Instagram and Twitter for landscapers and lawn care companies.

I was just hired as the marketing director for your landscaping company. What will my first six months look like? How will I convince my boss to do what I want to do?

There's a big difference in how you market your services in the lawn & landscape industry depending on the audience you serve, residential or commercial (B2B).

In this episode of Smarketing Talk we discuss the best ways to use professional video and photography when marketing your lawn and landscape industry company. We talk best practices and discuss the cost of hiring a professional videographer and photographer.

There is much to consider when hiring a marketing agency. When should you hire an agency? How much will an agency cost? How do you find a good one?

In this episode we discuss the pros and cons of hiring full-time marketing help in-house. What should the role look like? What skills and experience are required? What about compensation?

It's supposed to be liberating talking about our mistakes. At least that's what I've heard. In this podcast I share three mistakes and lessons learned over the last six months while I've been away from the "podcast booth".

In this episode we go deep into the differences between effective B2B and B2C marketing strategies.

In this episode we talk about getting started with CRM software by discussing the five most important questions you need to ask when researching software.

In this episode we talk about the SMART framework for setting actionable and achievable marketing and sales goals for your green industry company.

In this episode we dive into the benefits of investing in content marketing and the expectations you should have in your investment.