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Bloomberg Strategist: Gold is "Getting Very Scary" at These Levels, It's a Warning for Q4
30 Sep 2025
00:25:04
A "profound reversion cycle" is here, and the fourth quarter could set the tone for the next few decades, warns Mike McGlone, Senior Macro Strategist at Bloomberg Intelligence. McGlone tells Kitco News' Jeremy Szafron that gold's "scary" rally toward $4,000 is a major warning sign for the broader economy, pointing to a massive shift into gold ETFs this year after four years of outflows.
McGlone cautions that with stock market volatility near five-year lows, even a minor reversion could cause the "dominoes to tumble" for risk assets. He explains why he believes industrial commodities are vulnerable, forecasting that crude oil is in a "low price cure trajectory" that could see it revert toward $40 a barrel. He also explains why copper's rally is at risk and why silver may continue to lag gold due to its industrial properties. Finally, McGlone breaks down why Bitcoin's correlation to the stock market is at its highest ever, making it a clear risk-on asset in this environment.
Recorded September 30, 2025
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Clem Chambers: 2025 Was The Tipping Point, Here's What Happens To Your Money Next
29 Sep 2025
00:49:08
Market veteran Clem Chambers issues his most important forecast of the year in this exclusive Kitco News interview. He argues that the world is on the verge of the "biggest economic boom since they invented the steam engine," driven by the AI revolution, and reveals how he is positioned to take advantage of it.
However, he also delivers a stark warning for the crypto market, predicting an imminent "crypto winter" that could send Bitcoin back to the $40,000-$60,000 range, and identifies a group of companies he believes "will be the FTXs of this cycle".
In this wide-ranging conversation with Kitco News Anchor Jeremy Szafron, Clem gives his specific price targets for Gold and Silver, details the strategic importance of Platinum and Palladium, and explains why he believes a recent merger in the copper market is like "being given an insider trade".
Gold's ‘Overbought’ Signal is a Trap, Here's Why It's Screaming Higher | Gary Wagner
29 Sep 2025
00:22:34
It has been a week of extreme volatility and conflicting signals for the precious metals market. After gold futures surged past $3,800 to a new all-time record and silver smashed through $45, a blockbuster U.S. GDP report sent the dollar soaring and knocked metals back from their highs. In this environment of peak uncertainty, where the economic data is unreliable and even the Federal Reserve is openly disagreeing with itself, what do the charts say is next?
Jeremy Szafron is joined by one of the best technical analysts in the business, Gary Wagner of TheGoldForecast.com, for a deep dive into the technical picture. Wagner declares that the market's strength is "exceedingly strong," with dips being bought aggressively, and that the bullish case remains firmly intact. He gives his specific timeline for $4,000 gold, explains why silver's breakout to $45 is the most significant in years, and reveals the one signal that would tell him the rally is finally over.
Recorded September 25th 2025
Key Forecasts from Gary Wagner:
-Gold Price Target: "We'll definitely see $4,000 by the first or second quarter of next year... It's not if, but when". -Silver Price Target: The all-time high around $50 is an "absolutely" realistic possibility this year. -Market Strength: "What is the most impressive aspect... is rather than it correcting... we're seeing sideways action or consolidation... that is a sign of strength". -On the "Overbought" RSI Signal: A market can stay overbought for a long period "especially if the fundamentals driving prices higher... are not diminishing". -The Invalidation Signal: The bullish trend is intact until we see "more than two days in a row of a correction". -The Fed's Dilemma: The Fed is in a "quandary" and a "precarious place," forced to battle a weak labor market and persistent inflation at the same time.
00:00 - Intro: Gold Hits Record $3,800 vs. a 3.8% U.S. GDP Report 01:00 - Kitco Poll: 73% of Viewers See Gold Above $4,000 01:50 - Reviewing Gary's Last Forecast (Metals HIT, Dollar MISS) 02:15 - Gary Wagner's U.S. Dollar Analysis: Resistance at 100 04:10 - Gold's New All-Time High ($3,823): Why Consolidation is a Sign of Strength 06:15 - Has Volume Confirmed Gold's Breakout? 07:28 - Gary Wagner's Key Support Level for Gold ($3,700) 08:10 - The Fed's "Quandary": Fighting Inflation & a Weak Labor Market 12:20 - Gold's RSI Most Overbought Since 1980: Bullish or Bearish? 15:25 - Gold Price Forecast: Gary Wagner's Timeline for $4,000 16:00 - Silver Price Forecast: "A Solid Breakout Like We Haven't Seen in Years" 17:10 - Is $50 Silver
Gold Could See $3,600 Correction Before New Highs, Institutions Still Underweight: Ole Hansen
29 Sep 2025
00:34:36
A new commodity supercycle is here, according to Saxo Bank's Ole Hansen. In this interview, he declares we are at the "cusp of an energy transition super cycle" while breaking down the immediate supply shocks gripping the copper market today. Kitco News Anchor Jeremy Szafron sits down with Ole Hansen to get his detailed outlook on the precious metals. Hansen explains why gold could see a deep but healthy correction to the $3,600 level without hurting the overall bull market setup. He makes the case for $50 silver, revealing that he likes it "even a bit more than gold" because it can run faster.
The conversation also dives deep into the "perfect storm" driving platinum, the year's top performer, and why natural gas is "dirt cheap" and its low price is "not going to last". Hansen also reveals the one risk that could keep him awake at night: a loss of market confidence in the Federal Reserve.
00:00 - Intro: A Market of Conflicting Signals 01:10 - U.S. Economy: Is the Housing Surge a Blip? 02:48 - COPPER SHOCK: Freeport Declares Force Majeure 07:21 - GOLD: A Healthy Correction to $3,600? 09:16 - Why Institutions Are Still Underweight Gold 14:36 - SILVER: The Case for $50 18:07 - PLATINUM: Inside the "Perfect Storm" 22:11 - The PGM Substitution Story: Platinum vs. Palladium 24:36 - CRUDE OIL: Disconnected and "Living on its Own Planet" 31:59 - The "Energy Transition Supercycle" Has Begun
After a $1.8 billion liquidation event rocked the crypto derivatives market, Swan Bitcoin CEO Cory Klippsten joins Kitco News Anchor Jeremy Szafron for a deep dive into the forces driving the market. Klippsten provides a masterclass on the Bitcoin thesis, arguing that the recent volatility is "not a big deal" and that his long-term price targets of $10,000 Gold and $1 million Bitcoin remain firmly intact.
He dismisses the rise of corporate Ethereum treasuries as "just marketing" and argues that staking ETH is "stupid" when the asset is devaluing against Bitcoin. Klippsten also breaks down why he believes the Bitcoin cycles are dampening but not over, and gives his take on the new "crypto-friendly" SEC, the threat of a Digital Euro, and why he believes Bitcoin will eventually surpass Gold's market cap.
During the interview, Cory referenced his in-depth research on the diminishing effects of the Bitcoin halving. For viewers who want a deeper dive into the data and his analysis, you can find the research paper he mentioned at the link below: ➡️ Read the full research here: (https://www.swanbitcoin.com/analysis/...)
‘Greatest Miner Opportunity In A Generation’ is Here, Says Axel Merk
29 Sep 2025
00:40:58
Axel Merk, Founder and CEO of Merk Investments, declares that we are in the "single greatest margin expansion opportunity for the mining sector in a generation" in this exclusive interview with Kitco News Anchor Jeremy Szafron. Merk, whose firm has over $2.9 billion in assets , dives deep into the historic breakout in gold and silver, arguing that the Federal Reserve's policy of "foaming the markets" will continue to fuel the rally in hard assets.
He also makes a significant call, naming former Fed Governor Kevin Warsh as the ideal candidate for the next Fed Chair to "reform the Fed in earnest". Merk gives his outlook on the juniors, the majors, and explains why he believes "institutional participation is still modest", providing a major catalyst for the sector. Finally, he unpacks the historical parallels to the 1929 market crash, providing a unique context on the policies of Presidents Coolidge and Hoover that every investor needs to hear.
(Interview Recorded: September 22, 2025)
Ex-IMF Chief Ken Rogoff: ‘The Federal Reserve is Under Assault,’ Warns Higher Inflation is Coming
29 Sep 2025
00:38:08
Kitco News Anchor Jeremy Szafron sits down with one of the world's most respected economists, former IMF Chief Kenneth Rogoff, for a stunning interview about the future of the U.S. dollar. As central banks buy gold at the fastest pace in modern history , Professor Rogoff, author of the new book 'Our Dollar, Your Problem,' explains why the dollar's "days are numbered."
In this wide-ranging discussion, Rogoff tells Jeremy Szafron why he believes the Federal Reserve is "under assault" - a structural problem in US politics that will inevitably lead to higher inflation. He also declares that "the Chinese crisis is here" , explains why the US is vulnerable to a Japanese-style inflation shock , and reveals why he believes "gold is the new gold."
Guest: Kenneth Rogoff Harvard University Professor Former Chief Economist, International Monetary Fund Author, "Our Dollar, Your Problem" and "This Time is Different"
This interview was recorded on September 16, 2025.
Peter Schiff: This Crisis Won't Be Like 2008, It Will Be a U.S. Sovereign Debt Crisis
29 Sep 2025
00:48:15
Peter Schiff warns that a "great repricing" is underway and the Federal Reserve is about to make its "biggest error yet" in the face of a U.S. sovereign debt crisis. In this exclusive interview with Kitco News Anchor Jeremy Szafron, Schiff explains why this crisis won't be like 2008 and what it means for the U.S. dollar, gold, and your savings.
Schiff argues that the entire gold and silver rally, which has seen both metals hit multi-year highs, has been driven by central banks, not retail investors. He reveals that sales volume from "stackers" is nowhere near previous peaks and explains what will happen when the public finally rushes in. He also directly refutes claims made by the U.S. Treasury Secretary about the performance of U.S. bonds, explaining why foreign investors are facing significant losses and are now selling their U.S. debt.
Finally, Schiff gives his forecast for a potential financial panic, including the government's likely response of capital controls, and discusses the risk of nationalization for gold miners and confiscation for physical gold owners.
This interview was recorded on September 16, 2025.
Gov't Shutdown, Gold Record High: Natalie Brunell on Bitcoin's Institutional Green Light
01 Oct 2025
00:28:31
The U.S. government is officially shut down, sending gold to a new all-time high near $3,900 an ounce. At the same time, Bitcoin is surging past $117,000 as major news breaks that could reshape the future of digital assets. In Singapore, a firm co-founded by Donald Trump Jr. announced plans for a crypto debit card, while in Washington, the IRS issued guidance that gives a green light for mass corporate Bitcoin adoption.
Is this the moment the "hard asset" thesis goes mainstream? Are we witnessing the decay of one system and the rapid construction of a parallel economy, all in the same 24-hour news cycle?
In this essential market update, Kitco News anchor Jeremy Szafron is joined by Emmy-award winning journalist and host of the Coin Stories podcast, Natalie Brunell, to connect the dots on a truly historic day. Natalie breaks down why Washington's "spending problem" is a primary driver for both gold and Bitcoin, what the IRS tax ruling really means for corporate treasuries, and whether nation-states are already secretly adding Bitcoin to their reserves.
Recorded October 1 2025
Josh Phair: “Whoever Controls the Metal Will Win the Energy, AI, and Military Race”
16 Oct 2025
00:40:16
Gold continues above $4,200, and silver has surged past $53, but Scottsdale Mint CEO Josh Phair says this is only the beginning. “If you take the foreign debt of the United States, not domestic debt, but foreign debt, and its stated gold holdings, that number’s over 30,000,” he tells Kitco News Anchor Jeremy Szafron. “It’s already hit it twice in my lifetime. Why couldn’t it do it again?” Phair calls this the Phair–Sinclair Ratio, inspired by legendary trader Jim Sinclair’s model that predicted past gold bull markets. He believes the same imbalance between debt and gold is now driving a historic repricing of real assets.
“We’re in a metal war,” Phair warns. “Whoever controls the metal will win the energy race, the AI race, and the military race.” Refineries face “four to six month backlogs,” silver is being “flown across the Atlantic,” and lease rates have surged “as high as 85 percent.”
He adds that the scramble for physical metal has gone geopolitical. “You’ve got one price for deliverable metal in Dubai or Shanghai and another for London and New York.” Phair says the world is already splitting into “a bifurcated trade, two worlds, think Axis and Allies,” as nations repatriate gold and rebuild vault networks outside the Western system.
(Recorded October 16, 2025)
Gary Wagner: A Correction is Coming for Gold, But This is The Level to Watch
16 Oct 2025
00:24:12
In this crucial market update, Technical Analyst Gary Wagner of The Gold Forecast confirms we are in a "true silver squeeze" as the physical market goes into backwardation, an event he says suggests demand is "far exceeding physical stock". He gives his new, must-see price forecasts for both gold and silver, with targets of $4,300 for gold and $55 to $58 for silver.
In a detailed analysis with Kitco News' Jeremy Szafron, Gary Wagner also explains the powerful, ongoing trend of central bank buying that is tightening the global supply because sovereign nations "accumulate hold. They don't sell". He also shares a shocking story about physical gold demand at major retailers like Costco, where it sells out in days. Finally, he reveals the key support level that must hold to avoid "technical chart damage" to the rally.
Recorded October 14, 2025.
Lacalle: Fed Was “Too Late, Too Slow, Too Wrong” as Debt Crisis Deepens
15 Oct 2025
00:44:00
Global markets are flashing red as debt, inflation, and confidence collide. “Inflation is not a fatality. Inflation is a policy,” warns Daniel Lacalle, chief economist at Tressis, calling today’s turmoil a “slow-motion implosion” of advanced economies.
Speaking with Kitco News Anchor Jeremy Szafron, Lacalle says the Federal Reserve has been “too late, too slow, and too wrong” about inflation, and that central banks are “doing all they can to maintain the sovereign debt bubble alive.” He argues that gold and silver are “discounting currency destruction” and that “it is the start of the repricing of silver in the global economy.”
Lacalle warns the next phase of the crisis could hit savers directly. “The only thing governments will do once they enter into this phase of currency debasement is to try to offset part of their liabilities with the wealth on the savings and the deposits of those they can control.”
The interview unpacks the Fed’s policy trap, precious metals’ surge, and the coming “global reset.”
(Recorded October 14, 2025)
Danielle DiMartino Booth: Gold's Violent 5% Drop Is a 'Repeat of March 2020'
21 Oct 2025
00:23:26
The financial system is sending out a major distress signal. While stocks hover near all-time highs, former Federal Reserve insider Danielle DiMartino Booth warns that a systemic liquidity crisis is already here, and it will force the Fed to abandon its inflation fight.
In this interview, the CEO of QI Research tells Kitco News' Jeremy Szafron that the violent 5% sell-off in gold is a "repeat of March 2020"—a forced liquidation event signaling that the "dash for cash" has begun. She breaks down why "prime borrower" delinquencies are the new canary in the coal mine and explains how banks are using "extend and pretend" tactics to hide a brewing credit event she says will unleash "more cockroaches" into the public markets.
Is the Federal Reserve trapped? Booth lays out the final indicator that will prove the system has broken and the Fed has lost control.
Dominic Raab: From Illicit Gold to China's Choke Hold, Our Supply Chains Are Broken
21 Oct 2025
00:34:10
The global battle for resources has reached a crisis point. Beijing's weaponization of its control over critical minerals has sent shockwaves through the markets , while a shadow war is being fought over the illicit gold trade that funds conflict and terrorism. The West is now facing what our guest calls a "choke hold over supply" in a system he declares is a "broken market".
Kitco News Anchor Jeremy Szafron sits down with Dominic Raab, the former Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and current Head of Global Affairs at Appian Capital. A year after his explosive "Silence is Golden" report with the World Gold Council, Raab reveals that while "the silence has been broken" on illicit gold, the West must now confront a much larger strategic failure.
In this crucial interview, Raab lays out the blueprint for survival and victory in this new global conflict over metals. He details why the West's short-term thinking led to this crisis and provides an actionable three-point plan for leaders to build secure supply chains through public-private partnerships, permitting reform, and a "hub and spoke" model of friend-shoring.
(This interview was recorded on October 17, 2025.)
Gold's $300 Plunge: A Healthy Correction or a Serious Warning Sign?
23 Oct 2025
00:27:09
After gold surged to a historic all-time high of over $4,381, the market was hit with a violent correction, with prices plunging more than 5% in the sharpest single-day drop since 2013. As the Wall Street narrative points to a "risk-on" rotation into equities, many investors are asking if the bull market is over.
In this Kitco News interview, Rich Checkan, President of Asset Strategies International, argues the exact opposite. He calls the rout a "massive opportunity to buy well" and explains why he believes the core fundamentals—from central bank buying to currency debasement—remain firmly intact.
Jeremy Szafron sits down with Rich to go beyond the headlines and dissect what's really happening in the precious metals markets. They discuss the psychology of a market top versus a healthy correction, the profound disconnect between the crashing paper price and the extreme tightness in the physical market, and the key indicators every investor should be watching now. Rich also provides his actionable playbook for investors wondering whether to buy, hold, or sell in the face of this volatility.
Recorded on October 22, 2025.
The Mania Phase Has Not Started' In This Ignored Gold Bull Market | Brett Heath
31 Oct 2025
00:28:59
A new, disruptive force is entering the gold market. Tether, the issuer of the world's largest stablecoin, has been aggressively investing in gold royalty companies, but according to our guest, they are just "the first".
In this interview, Jeremy Szafron sits down with Brett Heath, CEO of Metalla Royalty & Streaming, to discuss the collision of crypto and precious metals. Heath reveals we are in the early stages of what he calls the "Great Rebalance"—a massive $370 trillion shift out of financial assets and into tangible assets like gold. He explains why this global move away from U.S. Treasuries means gold will need to reach $6,000 to $8,000 an ounce , and why the "mania phase" of this bull market "has not even started yet".
(Recorded October 30, 2025)
E.J. Antoni: 'They Are Tapped Out,' The American Consumer Is Officially Broke
31 Oct 2025
00:34:05
The U.S. economy is built on a mountain of unsustainable debt, and the bill is coming due. According to economist E.J. Antoni, the American consumer is officially "tapped out," and the Federal Reserve is trapped in a corner with only two options: a credit crisis or runaway inflation.
In this deep-dive interview, the former nominee to lead the Bureau of Labor Statistics tells Kitco News' Jeremy Szafron that the official jobs data is a "scandal," arguing the BLS has knowingly used flawed models since 2022 to mask weakness in the economy. He breaks down the alarming consumer debt data showing 90% of Americans have burned through their savings and explains why government spending is the "original sin" forcing the Fed's hand.
Is the U.S. headed for a reckoning? Antoni lays out the path he believes is inevitable and what it means for your financial future.
Recorded on October 30, 2025
Bullion Bank Insider: This is a 'Different Kind of Rally' for Gold | Bob Gottlieb
24 Oct 2025
00:44:51
A massive physical drain is accelerating in the silver market, with 29 million ounces leaving the COMEX vaults in just two weeks. At the same time, a new institutional thesis argues for a "structural change" in gold as central banks diversify away from the dollar. Are these events connected? Is the physical market breaking away from the paper price?
To get answers, Kitco News Anchor Jeremy Szafron sits down with Bob Gottlieb, a former executive at a major bullion bank and author of the upcoming book "Mastering Gold and Silver Markets." Gottlieb, whose own forensic analysis first detailed the scale of the silver drain, provides an insider's perspective on the stress fractures now appearing in the global delivery system.
(Recorded on October 23, 2025)
Will Rhind: Fed Now Has Room to Cut, Expect the Dollar to Weaken Further
24 Oct 2025
00:32:58
With the S&P 500 hitting a new all-time high and gold spiking past $4,100 after a cooler-than-expected inflation report, investors are navigating a deeply conflicting market. Is the AI-driven stock rally a speculative bubble, or is this time different? As the Federal Reserve gets the green light to cut rates, is the U.S. dollar about to weaken significantly, fueling the next leg up in precious metals?
Recorded on October 24, 2025, this Kitco News interview features Will Rhind, founder and CEO of GraniteShares. Will, a true architect of the ETF industry, argues that while stock valuations are high, today's companies are of a much "higher quality" than those of the late '90s. He breaks down why the debasement trade is accelerating, why it's now a "question of silver prices catching up to gold" , and how investors should be positioning themselves in an era where simple "buy and hold" investing is evolving.