Explore every episode of the podcast Keeping Seconds

In the first episode of Keeping Seconds, Michael Berrios and Noah Williams look back at Intersect Charlotte and use it as a jumping-off point for a bigger question: what do you actually learn about a watch when you finally see it in person?

They talk about why specs and photography can only tell you so much, how meeting the people behind independent brands can change the way you see the product, and why “buy the seller” might apply just as much to microbrands as it does to the pre-owned market.

Michael also shares how he unexpectedly went from Bernhardt collector to helping steward the brand, and what designing watches taught him about the phrase “I’d buy it if…"

Plus: what’s on the wrist, the first edition of The Watch List, upcoming shows in Atlanta and New York, and what Michael and Noah are still thinking about this week.

Keeping Seconds is a podcast about watches – and everything around them.