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| EP. 206 - The TV Industry Is Sinking. So What Comes Next? | Philip Ralph | 16 sept. 2026 | 01:05:04 | |
In this weekās episode, Jamie is joined once again by writer Philip Ralph for his fourth appearance on the podcast. After years of recording remotely, Jamie & Phil finally get to sit down together in real life following a busy week at the Edinburgh TV Festival to ask: where does the TV industry go from here? They reflect on the conversations happening at the festival, the reality facing freelancers, why class continues to shape who gets to stay in the industry and whether the current way of making television is sustainable. We got into everything from: š¼ The reality facing freelancers and why so many are struggling to stay in the industry A big thank you to Coffee Cabinet in Edinburgh for letting us record the episode in their cafĆ©. If you want a nice coffee be sure to pop in:https://thecoffeecabinetedinburgh.com/ š§ Listen to Just Get A Real Job wherever you get your podcasts. š Links & Resources š Letās Talk About Class: Whatās On? Industry Report š John Sen: Whose Story Is It Anyway? šŗ Watch Philās Under Suspicion: Kate McCann on Channel 5 š§ Just Get A Real Job š Support Just Get A Real Job on Patreon š² Follow Just Get A Real Job šø Instagram š¬ TikTok š¦ X (Twitter) | |||
| EP. 205 - Freelancing, 200 Episodes & Whatās Next | 10 sept. 2026 | 00:10:59 | |
Itās been a while since Iāve done a solo episode, so this week I wanted to check in and have an honest chat about where Iām at and whatās been happening behind the scenes at Just Get A Real Job. I reflect on reaching 200 episodes, navigating freelance life after redundancy, why itās such a difficult time for people working across the creative industries and a few reasons to still feel optimistic. I also chat about launching Screen Check, what that means for Just Get A Real Job and my plans for the podcast over the next few months. A slightly rambly but honest check-in. Check out screen check šļø : https://linktr.ee/sreencheck?utm_source=linktree_profile_share<sid=900396e6-228f-4c1d-abd9-6f8d23decac8 š Support Just Get A Real Job on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob š Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job šø Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob š¬ TikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob š All links:https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast | |||
| EP. 204 - 'Surviving 35 Years in the Arts' | Justin Butcher | 30 aoƻt 2026 | 00:50:19 | |
In the final episode of this yearās Edinburgh Fringe series Iām joined by Justin Butcher live from Assembly Gardens. Justin has spent more than 35 years building a career across theatre, television and performance. We chat about his journey into the creative industries, his love of clowning and storytelling, and the incredible 25 year journey of his show Scaramouche Jones, which has been performed around the world. Justin also shares what heās learned from more than three decades of making a living creatively, why the work he made entirely for himself became his most successful, and what heās learned from working internationally and collaborating with creatives from different cultures. We also chat about the importance of trusting your own creative instincts, using comedy to explore difficult subjects and why sometimes you need to stop worrying about what other people want and make something for yourself. A fascinating conversation about longevity, trusting your ideas and continuing to make the work you believe in. š§ Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and YouTube. š¤ A big thank you to our sponsors, Assembly Festival, for supporting this episode and our Fringe series. š Scaramouche Jones is at Assembly until the end of the Edinburgh Fringe:https://assemblyfestival.com/whats-on/scaramouche-jones š Find out more about Justin and his work:https://www.unitedagents.co.uk/justin-butcher/ š Support the podcast:https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob š± Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob šļø Listen to the podcast:https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast | |||
| EP. 203 - 'The Arts Is an Ultramarathon' | Emery Schaffer | 27 aoƻt 2026 | 00:30:38 | |
Today on Just Get A Real Job, Iām joined by playwright Emery Schaffer, recorded live from Assembly Gardens at the Edinburgh Fringe. Emery shares her journey from studying theatre in New York to moving to Scotland and building a career as a playwright, as well as the story behind her new play BearGirl. We chat about the realities of making a living as a creative, why career paths are rarely linear, finding inspiration in unexpected places and learning to be patient when success doesnāt happen overnight. Emery also shares why asking for help and leaning on your creative community can take you further than trying to do everything alone. A really lovely conversation about perseverance, creativity and remembering that a career in the arts is an ultramarathon, not a sprint. š» See BearGirl at the Edinburgh Fringe:https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/beargirl š¤ A big thank you to our sponsors, Assembly Festival, for supporting this episode. We recorded this conversation live from Assembly Gardens during this yearās Edinburgh Festival Fringe. Find out more about Assembly Festival and everything happening across the Fringe:https://assemblyfestival.com/ š Support Just Get A Real Job on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob š Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job šø Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjobš¬ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob All links: https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast | |||
| EP. 202 - Susie McCabe on Class, Comedy & Who Gets a Chance | 23 aoƻt 2026 | 00:43:37 | |
This week Iām joined by the hilarious Susie McCabe for a brilliant conversation about comedy, class and being back at the Edinburgh Fringe with her latest show Coming of Rage. Live from the Assembly Gardens, Susie spoke to me about how a dare led her from working in construction to stand-up, why it took eight and a half years to go full-time and the reality of building a sustainable career in comedy. We also get into class and access in the creative industries, the state of Scotlandās creative scene, why we need to take more risks on underrepresented talent, imposter syndrome and Susieās advice for anyone trying to build a creative career. š¤ A big thank you to our sponsors, Assembly Festival, for supporting this episode. We recorded this conversation live from the Assembly Gardens during this yearās Edinburgh Festival Fringe. Find out more about Assembly Festival and everything happening across the Fringe at: šļø See Susie McCabe: Coming of Rage at the Edinburgh Fringe: š Find out more about Susie: Podcast Links š Support Just Get A Real Job on Patreon: š Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job šø Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob | |||
| EP. 201 - āFrom Musical Theatre to New York Stand-Upā | Drew Lausch | 19 aoĆ»t 2026 | 00:48:26 | |
This week on Just Get A Real Job, Iām joined by American comedian Drew Lausch for a brilliant conversation about stand-up, rejection and building a career in the New York comedy scene.Drew is currently making his Edinburgh Fringe debut with his show Friendliest.We chat about:š Going from musical theatre into stand-up comedyš¾ Growing up in Fargo, North Dakotaš½ Moving to New York and finding his feet in the comedy sceneš How appearing on Alan Cummingās Showtime special became a major turning point in his careerš« Dealing with rejection and learning not to take every ānoā personallyš” Why sometimes you need a little bit of delusion to keep goingšļø His advice for anyone trying to build a sustainable creative career---š Catch Drew at the Edinburgh FringeFriendliesthttps://www.edfringe.com/tickets/what... Follow DrewInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/realdrewlau...Podcast Linksš Support Just Get A Real Job on PatreonĀ Ā /Ā justgetarealjobĀ Ā š Stay connected with Just Get A Real Jobšø Instagram:Ā Ā /Ā justgetarealjobĀ Ā š¬ TikTok:Ā Ā /Ā justgetarealjobĀ Ā š¦ X / Twitter:Ā Ā /Ā justgetarealjobĀ Ā š All links:https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast | |||
| EP. 200 - āLearning to Slow Down in an Industry That Never Stopsā | Brownbear | 12 aoĆ»t 2026 | 00:58:58 | |
In this very special 200th episode, Jamie is joined once again by musician and songwriter Matt Hickman, better known as Brownbear. Matt returns for a record fifth appearance on the podcast, having first come on the show back in 2021. Three years on from his last appearance, we catch up on everything thatās changed for Matt, from becoming a dad and taking a step back from music to learning to slow down, switch off and make things on his own terms. We chatted about: ā¢ Making art on your own terms ā¦and much more. š Reaching 200 episodes of Just Get A Real Job feels incredibly surreal. A huge thank you to Matt for coming back for a fifth time and being such a brilliant supporter of the podcast over the years, and to everyone who has listened, watched, shared or supported the show on the journey to 200. It genuinely means so much. ā¤ļø Find out more about Brownbear's work here: Podcast Links š Support Just Get A Real Job on Patreon: š Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job: šø Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob Credits šļø Hosted & Produced by Jamie Mackinlay | |||
| EP. 199 - Being Different Is Your Biggest Creative Advantage | Olivia Claw & Fraser Scott | 07 aoƻt 2026 | 00:50:46 | |
In this week's episode, Jamie is joined by Olivia Claw and Fraser Scott. Olivia is a Scottish actor, while Fraser is a theatre director and writer. Their critically acclaimed play Common Tongue is at the Edinburgh Fringe throughout August, celebrating Scottish identity, language and working-class stories through humour, heart and powerful storytelling. We chatted about: š“ Scottish identity, language and finding your voice š¬ Building creative careers in a challenging climate šļø Making theatre more accessible and reaching new audiences š How Common Tongue has evolved š Why Scotland's arts scene can be so much more š Their advice for anyone hoping to build a career in the arts ā¦and much more. š¤ A big thank you to our sponsors, Assembly Festival, for supporting this episode. We recorded this conversation live from the Assembly Gardens during this year's Edinburgh Festival Fringe. Find out more about Assembly Festival and everything happening across the Fringe at https://assemblyfestival.com/. Find out more: šļø Common Tongue at the Edinburgh Fringe: https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/common-tongue š Prophets at the Edinburgh Fringe: https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/prophets šø Follow Fraser Scott on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fraserscott_ šø Follow Olivia Claw on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oliviaclaw/ Podcast Links š Support Just Get A Real Job on Patreon: š Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job: šø Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob š¬ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob š¦ X (Twitter): https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob š All our links: https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast Credits šļø Hosted & Produced by Jamie Mackinlay š¬ Production Support: Vaishnavi Ramu | |||
| EP. 198 - Can You Actually Make a Living as an Actor in Scotland? | Darren Brownlie | 30 juil. 2026 | 00:53:07 | |
In this week's episode, Jamie is joined by acclaimed Scottish actor Darren Brownlie. Best known for playing Mikey in River City, Darren has built a career across television and theatre. With River City coming to an end, Darren reflects on what the show has meant to him, his journey as an actor, and why he's excited to be taking his critically acclaimed one-man musical *Crocodile Rock* to this year's Edinburgh Fringe. We chatted about: š Darren's journey into acting and training in musical theatrešŗ Landing the role of Mikey in River City and saying goodbye to the show šļø Bringing Crocodile Rock to the Edinburgh Fringe and the challenge of performing a one-man show š¬ Theatre vs television and the realities of working in both š Why arts education matters and supporting young creativesš± Going viral on social media and joining Cameoš His advice for aspiring actors and building a career in the industryā¦and much more. Find out more about Darren: šļø Crocodile Rock at the Edinburgh Fringe:https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/crocodile-rockšø Follow Darren on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/darrenbrownlie/ Podcast Links š Support Just Get A Real Job on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob š Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job: šø Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjobš¬ TikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjobš¦ X (Twitter):https://twitter.com/justgetarealjobš All our links:https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast | |||
| EP. 197 - Acting, The Apprentice & Creating Opportunities for Young Performers | Reece Donnelly | 22 juil. 2026 | 00:48:23 | |
In this week's episode, Jamie is joined by actor, entrepreneur and former Apprentice star Reece Donnelly From starting his career as a child actor in shows including Waterloo Road to founding the Theatre School of Scotland, Reece has built a career around creating opportunities for himself and the next generation of performers. In this conversation, Reece spoke about: š His journey into acting and how he got his start in the industry š Building the Theatre School of Scotland and creating opportunities for young performers across Scotlandšŗ What it was really like appearing on The Apprentice š Why you don't necessarily need to move to London anymore to build a creative career, and why he's so passionate about championing local talentš What it's really like running four businesses while balancing multiple creative careersš¤ The importance of putting yourself out there, taking chances and building meaningful relationshipsš His advice for anyone hoping to build a career in the creative industries, and much more. A great and insightful conversation. Find out more about Reece's work: š Theatre School of Scotlandhttps://theatreschoolofscotland.co.uk/š Theatre College of Scotlandhttps://www.theatrecollegeofscotland.co.uk/ā Skinny Coffee Househttps://www.skinnycoffeehouse.co.uk/š¬ Patter Productionshttps://www.patter-productions/com Podcast Links: š Support Just Get A Real Job on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob š Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job šø Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob š¬ TikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob š¦ X (Twitter)https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob š All linkshttps://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast | |||
| EP. 196 - Milo Edwards: 'Stand-Up, the Edinburgh Fringe & Building Your Own Audience' | 16 juil. 2026 | 00:52:11 | |
In this week's episode, Jamie is joined by critically acclaimed comedian Milo Edwards. From performing stand-up on Russian television in his early 20s to touring internationally, hosting multiple successful podcasts and returning to the Edinburgh Fringe with his brand new show, Catamaran, Milo has become a well-known name on the UK comedy circuit. Milo chats about: š Building a career in stand-up comedy š How a gap year in Russia led to him becoming a TV comedian there in his early 20s āµ His new show, Catamaran, and the story behind it šļø Why the Edinburgh Fringe sometimes gets an unfair rap and why it can still be accessible for comics š Building an audience on your own terms instead of waiting to be discovered š¼ Why creators and comedians need to think like entrepreneurs š His advice for anyone wanting to build a career in comedy and much more. A funny, insightful conversation about comedy, creative careers and why success doesn't always look the way you expect. šļø Find out more about Milo: š Website: https://www.miloedwards.co.uk/ šļø Edinburgh Fringe ā Catamaran: https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/milo-edwards-catamaran Just Get A Real Job links: š Support the podcast on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob š Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job: Instagram šøhttps://www.instagram.com/ TikTok š¬https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob X (Twitter) š¦https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob All links šhttps://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast | |||
| EP. 195 - 'My Award-Winning Book Was Rejected Over 60 Timesā | Margaret McDonald | 24 juin 2026 | 01:00:02 | |
In this week's episode, Jamie is joined by Scottish author Margaret McDonald, who in 2025 became the youngest ever winner of the Carnegie Medal for Writing for her debut novel Glasgow Boys, which has been widely praised for its honest, hopeful portrayal of friendship, identity and growing up in Scotland. Margaret shares the journey behind Glasgow Boys, from writing fanfiction as a teenager in East Kilbride to becoming one of Scotland's most exciting literary voices. Margaret chats about: š The inspiration behind Glasgow Boys and why she wanted to tell a story centred on platonic love āļø Writing fanfiction, finding her voice and taking the leap into original fiction ā Facing more than 60 rejections before finding an agent š What the publishing process actually looks like, from securing representation to working with editors š Winning the prestigious Carnegie Medal and how she handled the sudden success š Learning to trust her own creative instincts š Her advice for emerging writers and much more A brilliant conversation about creativity, perseverance and what it really takes to get your first book published. Find out more š š Glasgow Boys by Margaret McDonald: š¤ Find out more about Margaret McDonald: š Support the podcast on Patreon: š Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job: Instagram šø TikTok š¬ X (Twitter) š¦ All links š | |||
| EP. 194 - 'How Do Debut Filmmakers Get Their Chance?' | Gabriella Leonardi | 11 juin 2026 | 00:52:42 | |
In this week's episode, Jamie is joined once again by writer and filmmaker Gabriella Leonardi. After moving to London for what was meant to be a two-month acting job, Gabriella is now pursuing a career as a writer and director, developing her own projects and navigating an industry that feels more risk-averse than ever. Gabriella speaks about: š¬ Why breaking into film feels harder than ever š° Making your own work without money or industry connections ā How Sheridan Smith came to appear in one of her short films āļø Why she decided to handwrite a letter to Steven Spielberg ā¤ļø How losing her grandad has made her even more determined to tell the stories that matter to her š„ Why she's determined to keep telling the stories she believes in, rather than changing her voice to become more "marketable" š¬ Rejection, resilience and what it really takes to build a creative career on your own terms. A brilliant conversation about what it's really like for many creatives currently. Find out more about Gabriella and her work: š https://fillinghamweston.com/clients/name/gabriella-leonardi/ šø https://www.instagram.com/gabriellaleonardi/ š Support the podcast on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob š Stay connected withĀ Just Get A Real Job: Instagram šøhttps://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob TikTok š¬https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob X (Twitter) š¦https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob All links šhttps://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast | |||
| EP. 193 - 'Why I Had To Leave TV' | Chloe Maylaw | 04 juin 2026 | 01:05:39 | |
In this week's episode, Jamie is joined by Chloe Maylaw for an honest conversation about leaving the TV industry, creative burnout and building a life that's more aligned with the work you actually want to make. After a few years of working in television, Chloe made the difficult decision to step away from what many would consider a dream career. She opens up about the realities of working in TV, the impact it had on her mental health, and why leaving ultimately allowed her to focus on her real passion: writing and directing. Chloe spoke about: š¬ Why she decided to leave the TV industryš¼ How a more traditional 9-5 has given her more time and energy to create š§ Mental health and trying to find balance as a creative š± Building an online audience through honest and relatable videos about her experiences š„ Making your own work and creating opportunities š¬ What the TV and film industries need to do better, informed by her current work in HR A thoughtful and honest conversation about having the courage to change direction when something no longer feels right. Links šø Chloe Maylaw Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chloemaylaw_/ š Chloe's Links & Projects: https://linktr.ee/chloemaylaw_ š Support the podcast on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob š Stay connected withĀ Just Get A Real Job: Instagram šø TikTok š¬ X (Twitter) š¦ All links š | |||
| EP. 192 - 'Finding Humour in a Broken Industry' | Craig Manson | 26 mai 2026 | 00:43:23 | |
In this weekās episode, Jamie is joined by Glasgow-based performer and artist Craig Manson for an honest conversation about creativity, performance and the realities of working in the arts today. Known for his satirical and hilarious videos about the arts world, Craig chats about why his content has resonated so strongly with creatives online, and how humour can sometimes become a coping mechanism for industry frustrations. Craig spoke about: š Building a career across theatre, live art, cabaret and performance š± Creating viral content and finding an audience online š Why so many creatives āfeel seenā by his videos šļø The realities and frustrations of working in the arts šØ Coming from a remote part of Scotland and finding his way creatively š“ His upcoming Fringe show Bunny š¬ His advice for aspiring creatives and performers and more A funny, thoughtful and refreshingly honest conversation about creativity, identity and trying to survive the arts world with your sense of humour intact. Recorded at The Podcast Studio Glasgow on the 11th of May šļø Out now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & YouTube. This weekās episode is sponsored by rad Scotland. rad Scotland is a paid TV traineeship helping people from underrepresented backgrounds break into the Scottish TV industry through placements, training and mentoring. Applications close Wednesday 3rd June at 5pm:ā https://trcmedia.org/training/rad-scotland/ā š Check out Craigās work: Instagram šø Fringe show šļø Website š š Support the podcast on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob š Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job: Instagram šø TikTok š¬ X (Twitter) š¦ All links š | |||
| EP. 191 - 'The Reality of Being an Artist' | David Kirkman | 20 mai 2026 | 00:57:22 | |
In this weekās episode, Jamie is joined by abstract artist David Kirkman for an honest conversation about creativity, neurodivergence and what itās really like to build a career in the arts today. David shares his journey into abstract painting, how ADHD and autism have shaped both his work and the way he sees the world, and the realities of trying to sustain a creative career. David opens up about: šØ Finding his artistic style and creative voice š§ The impact of ADHD and autism on creativity š± Using social media to build an audience šø The realities of making a living through art š¼ļø Galleries, commissions and building relationships š Mental health, creative pressure and self-expression š¬ His advice for aspiring artists A thoughtful and honest chat about creativity, identity and learning to trust your own process. Links: This weekās episode is sponsored by rad Scotland. rad Scotland is a paid TV traineeship helping people from underrepresented backgrounds break into the Scottish TV industry through placements, training and mentoring. Applications close Wednesday 3rd June at 5pm: https://trcmedia.org/training/rad-scotland/ šļø EP.191 of Just Get A Real Job š§ Out now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & YouTube. š Check out Davidās work: Instagram šø https://www.instagram.com/dkirkmanart/ Website šØ https://dkirkmanart.com/ š Support the podcast on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob š Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job: Instagram šø https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob TikTok š¬ https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob X (Twitter) š¦ https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob All links š https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast | |||
| EP. 190 - āWhat Itās Really Like Being a Poet in 2026' | Robbie Hood | 14 avr. 2026 | 01:01:20 | |
In this weekās episode, Jamie is joined by poet Robbie Hood to talk about what it actually looks like to build a creative career right now. From starting out at open mics to finding an audience online, Robbie shares his journey into poetry and how social media has helped him get his work seen by a wider audience. Robbie opens up about: š¤ Finding your voice as a poet š± Social media and going viral šø The realities of trying to make a living creatively š§ Staying authentic in a crowded space š How class still shapes access to the arts and creative opportunities š² Being labelled an āInstagram poetā and the complexity that comes with it. The conversation also explores the pressures of the industry today, navigating political themes in your work, and much more.Ā An honest chat about creativity, visibility and what it takes to keep going. šļø EP.190 of Just Get A Real Job š§ Out now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & YouTubeĀ š Check out Robbieās work Instagram šø https://www.instagram.com/robbie.hood.poetry/ YouTube š¬ https://www.youtube.com/@Robbie-Hood-Poetry š Support the podcast on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob š Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job Instagram šø https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob TikTok š¬ https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob X (Twitter) š¦ https://twitter.com/justgetarealjobš§ Ā All links https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast | |||
| EP. 189 ā āBeing an Acting Agentā | Ruth Hollyman | 01 avr. 2026 | 00:56:00 | |
In this weekās episode, Jamie is joined by acting agent Ruth Hollyman, founder of Strange Town Agency, to talk about what it actually means to represent actors and build a career on the other side of the industry. Based in Edinburgh, Strange Town Agency represents some of the most exciting acting talent emerging from Scotland, with clients working across film, TV and theatre in the UK and internationally. The agency has strong links with casting directors and companies across the UK and the US, and works with standout talent including Lewis Gribben. Ruth launched the agency in 2011 alongside Strange Town Theatre Company, which she co-founded in 2008 to create opportunities for young people to develop their creative skills. Ruth opens up about: š What an acting agent actually does day-to-day š¬ How she built Strange Town Agency from the ground up š Her early career as a theatre maker, including living and working in Japan š¤ The reality of the actor-agent relationship šÆ What she looks for in new talent š The current state of the industry and how itās changing š§ The challenges (and rewards) of working in talent representation A really insightful chat for actors, creatives, and anyone curious about how careers in the industry actually come together. šļø EP.189 of Just Get A Real Job š§ Out now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & YouTube š Check out Ruthās work Strange Town Agency All links Support the podcast on Patreon š Instagram šø TikTok š¬ X (Twitter) š¦ š Stay Connected With Just Get A Real Job | |||
| EP. 188 - āBuilding a Career as a Poet' | Luke Wright | 12 fĆ©vr. 2026 | 00:56:37 | |
In this weekās episode, Jamie is joined by poet Luke Wright to talk about what it actually means to build a career as a full-time poet. Luke has been writing and performing poetry for over 25 years, taking his work to theatres, festivals and pubs across the world. Heās created fifteen solo shows, three plays, and published various collections. Luke opens up about: š¤ Building a long-term career as a working poet āļø His approach to writing š Finding your voice as a poet š How he manages his own tours š± How poetry is evolving in the digital age š§ Learning to embrace both the good and the difficult parts of the job š Touring with the likes of John Cooper Clarke and Martin Nuwell Luke also shares two poems in this episode, including Later Life Lesson and Gene Pool, and reflects on his latest poetry collection Later Life Letter and his upcoming tour. It was great to have Luke on the show. šļø EP.188 of Just Get A Real Job š§ Out now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & YouTube š Luke Wright Later Life Letterhttps://www.lukewright.co.uk/later-life-letter-1 Lukeās website, tour dates & other workhttps://www.lukewright.co.uk/ š Stay Connected With Just Get A Real Job Website / all linkshttps://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast Support the podcast on Patreon šhttps://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob Instagram šøhttps://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob TikTok š¬https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob X (Twitter) š¦https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob Spotify š§Just Get A Real Job on Spotify Apple Podcasts šJust Get A Real Job on Apple Podcasts YouTube ā¶ļøJust Get A Real Job on YouTube | |||
| EP .187 - āFinding New Ways of Working' | Live at the HB Film Festival | 03 fĆ©vr. 2026 | 01:10:41 | |
Jamie is joined by Claire Duffy and Maureen Hascoet live from the HB Film Festival for an honest conversation about the state of Scotlandās screen industry and what it really takes to build work from the ground up right now. Claire and Maureen open up about: š¬ Building creative careers outside traditional media pathwaysš± Why grassroots movements and community-led initiatives matter more than everš§ The mindset shifts that can hold creatives back from putting work outš¤ Creating opportunities through collaboration rather than permissionšļø The realities of funding, access and sustainability in the current industryš£ Why Maureen founded the Scottish Screenwriters Festival and why Claire started the Glasgow Telly Festivalš Where the gaps still exist and what needs to change A really open conversation about what the industry can learn from those building things at a grassroots level. It was a genuine pleasure to welcome both Claire and Maureen on the show. A massive thank you to the team at IRIS for filming this episode, with a special shoutout to Abbie and Conor, and to Conor Mecham for his editing support on this weekās episode. Recorded live on Sunday 5th October. š Episode & Partner Links HB Film Festivalhttps://www.hbfilmfestival.com/ IRIS Ayrhttps://www.theirisayr.com/ š„ GuestsClaire Duffyhttps://www.instagram.com/duffysclaire/ Maureen Hascoethttps://www.instagram.com/maureencuestas/?hl=en š Stay Connected With Just Get A Real JobWebsite / all linkshttps://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast Support the podcast on Patreon šhttps://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob Instagram šøhttps://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob TikTok š¬https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob X (Twitter) š¦https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob Spotify š§ Apple Podcasts šJust Get A Real Job on Youtube. | |||
| EP. 186 - 'Taking Control of Your Creative Career' with Karla Williams Posiuniene | 14 janv. 2026 | 00:48:32 | |
In the first episode of 2026, Jamie is joined by writer, executive producer and founder of MsMono, Karla Williams Posiuniene, for an honest conversation about taking control of your creative career and what itās really like being a writer in a changing media landscape. Karla opened up about: š¬ Breaking into the industry as a writer š Why she chose to part ways with her agent and how that decision served her better šļø Building her own production company, MsMono š The biggest lessons sheās learned in her career so far šŗ Writing for Grantchester š What she wishes sheād known when she first started out š How the industry is changing fast šŗ The types of shows sheād love to see more of on screen A really honest conversation about resilience, ownership, and building a creative career on your own terms. Well worth a listen, particularly if youāre working in TV or film right now. š Follow Karla & explore her work TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cue.karla LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karla-williams-piuniene-3a057238/ MsMono: www.msmono.com Karlaās website: www.karlawilliams.co.uk š Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job š Website: https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast š Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob šø Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob š¬ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob š¦ X (Twitter): https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob š§ Spotify: Just Get A Real Job on Spotify š Apple Podcasts: Just Get A Real Job on Apple Podcasts | |||
| EP. 185 - 'Growth, Graft & Staying the Course' with Ashley Dick | 27 dƩc. 2025 | 01:05:23 | |
In this yearās Christmas and New Year episode, Jamie is joined by returning guest Ashley Dick for a reflective look back on the past year. Ash opened up about: š¬ How she has grown her production company and channel, Cinora A lovely end-of-year conversation about persistence, community, and making things happen at your own pace. Happy New Year to all our listeners and thank you for all the support you have given us in 2025 š§ š¬ Cinora š Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job š Website: https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast | |||
| EP. 184 - āThe Future of Indie Filmmaking' with Hutch.on.Film | 11 dĆ©c. 2025 | 00:54:34 | |
This week, Jamie sits down with Hutch.on.Film for a really interesting conversation. Hutch is leading the charge in helping a new generation of indie filmmakers find and build an audience. Having worked across a number of projects in Hollywood including as an Executive Producer on the Emmy-nominated RZR . Hutch has now built an online community of filmmakers and grown a huge audience through his content. We chat about everything from: Such a good chat for anyone trying to build a creative career right now and really instresting to get a diffrent perspective on the current state of the industryš¬āØ Links: Hutch.On.FIlmFilm Insider is the online community for independent film professionals to network, collaborate and help bring their projects to market. Link here: https://whop.com/checkout/6CW6iPT6pHf1kX5i81-CPXE-6VEY-wChU-HQO38BV5TN7l/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hutch.on.film/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hutch.on.film šĀ Stay Connected with Just Get A Real Job
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| EP. 183 - 'The Creative Industries Minister' Ian Murray MP | 05 dƩc. 2025 | 00:43:37 | |
This week, Jamie welcomes Ian Murray, the UKās Minister for Creative Industries, for an open and honest conversation about the state of the creative sector and what the Department for Culture, Media and Sport is doing to help more young people get into creative careers. Ian shares how his own upbringing shaped his understanding of accessibility in the arts, and why it still feels so difficult for people from working class or under-represented backgrounds to break into creative work. Ian spoke about: šØ The realities facing freelancers and why so many feel shut out of the industry š± Discover Creative Careers, the governmentās campaign to demystify routes into creative jobs š¬ The importance of freelancers to the creative economy and what the government is doing to support them š Why class is still such a barrier for many people trying to forge a creative career š The importance of the BBC and why placing it on a sustainable footing matters š ļø The wider mission to make the creative industries more accessible, transparent, and sustainable It was a pleasure to welcome a sitting government minister onto the podcast, hear more about the work DCMS is doing, and have such open and honest discussions about the challenges and opportunities across the sector. š® Discover Creative Careers ā Campaign Information The Discover! Creative Careers Campaign aims to make creative careers more accessible to young people from under-represented backgrounds, highlighting the breadth of opportunities in the creative industries and how todayās skills and hobbies can be turned into meaningful, sustainable careers. š No matter your background or education, there are affordable and accessible routes into the sector ā from apprenticeships and work experience to on-the-job training. š§āš» To explore creative and non-creative roles across the industry, visit the Discover! Creative Careers Finder Tool: https://discovercreative.careers/explore/ Instagram: @dcmsgovuk X (Twitter): @dcmsĀ Facebook: @dcmsgovukĀ Youtube: @dcms #DiscoverCreativeCareers #SkillsForLife
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| Ep. 182 - āGoing Full-Time in Comedyā with Kate Hammer | 27 nov. 2025 | 00:58:50 | |
This week, Jamie sits down once again with comedian and writer Kate Hammer for a funny, honest and wide-ranging chat about navigating life as a freelancer in 2025. Since she was last on the podcast, Kate has gone full-time as a stand-up comic and writer and is now literally a government-approved comedian on a global talent visa. Kate spoke about: A brilliant episode packed with laughs, honesty and a relatability every creative will connect with. Links: Kate Hammer: Instagram: Link to all Kate's upcoming shows Get Your Goat Comedy (Kateās sketch group): šĀ Stay Connected with Just Get A Real Job
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| EP. 181 - 'Inside An Indie Record Label ' with Blackhall Records | 18 nov. 2025 | 01:10:19 | |
This week, Jamie sits down with Martyn and Christine Armstrong, two of the three founders (alongside Scott Simpson) behind the record label Blackhall Records. Together they explore the ins and outs of running an indie label in todayās ever-changing music landscape, from supporting artists like Dictator, Midnight Ambulance and Waverley, to navigating the challenges of a constantly shifting industry. They chat about: A thoughtful and inspiring conversation about music, resilience and the power of collaboration perfect for anyone curious about how the music industry really works behind the scenes, and especially for music lovers. Links: š Vote for the Scottish Alternative Music Awards, including Wavelry for best live track: šµ Blackhall Records: šø Blackhall Records on Instagram: šĀ Stay Connected with Just Get A Real Job
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| EP. 180 - 'How Art Saved My Life' with Graham Cullis | 31 oct. 2025 | 00:48:03 | |
This week, Jamie reconnects with artist and creator Graham Cullis, who returns to the podcast after four years for an open and inspiring chat about art, meditation, and the life-changing path heās been on since they last spoke. They chat about: Ā āØ Grahamās Splat & Splash Tour, travelling around the UKās beaches and bringing people together through art and community for mental health. šØ Spending the day with artist Sophie Tea and what he learned from her approach to art and business. šļø His time in Bali, his move back to the UK, and how painting continues to shape his life. š± How heās used social media to grow as an artist and build a genuine creative community online. š§āāļø The role of mindfulness and meditation and how itās changed his life. š Building supportive spaces like The New York Dippers Club and Youth Art Connect. š And why art can be one of the most powerful tools for healing and human connection.Ā A heartfelt, uplifting episode full of inspiration, honesty and creative energy perfect for anyone working in (or dreaming of working in) the creative industries. šØ Check out Grahamās work and get involved in his next art event: š Join the Splat & Splash Tour or find out more about his art & meditation workshops: WhatsApp Graham +44 7799 850146 š„ Watch Grahamās Reel: Instagram Reel š„ An āeggsampleā of his TikTok show vids: TikTok Video š§ Book Recommendation: Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself on Audible š Stay Connected with Just Get A Real Job
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| EP. 179 - 'Brave New Work: How Filmmakers Are Adapting in a Difficult Climate' (Live at _And Friends) | 22 oct. 2025 | 01:29:38 | |
This weekās episode is a special one, recorded live in Glasgow back in June in collaboration with _and friends. Jamie was joined by a brilliant panel of filmmakers, including BAFTA Award-winning Michael Lee Richardson, Valerie Andrews, Dylan Blore, and Blade & Bow Filmsā Hayley Louise McGuire and Jayme Bartlett. Together they explore how filmmakers are adapting in an increasingly difficult climate from the challenges of funding and freelancing to the importance of storytelling, collaboration, and creative community. The panel also discuss the biggest lessons theyāve learned throughout their careers and take questions from the audience. Huge thanks to everyone who came along on the day and to AndFriends for partnering on such a brilliant event. Unfortunately, this episode wasnāt recorded, so it's an audio-only episode. š Links: š„ AndFriends ā https://www.andfriends.scot/ š¬ Blade & Bow Films ā https://www.bladeandbowfilms.com/ š Valerie Andrews ā https://www.instagram.com/valerie.andrewsb/ āļø Michael Lee Richardson ā https://michaelleerichardson.wordpress.com/ šļø Dylan Blore ā https://dpamanagement.com/actor/dylan-blore/ š Stay Connectedš§ Website: https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast š Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob šø Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob š¬ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob š¦ X (Twitter): https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob š§ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2PRi8RlxPZz1zZx9zUuF8Q š Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/just-get-a-real-job/id1541262912 | |||
| EP. 178 - 'How TV Is Failing the Working Class' with Philip Ralph | 14 oct. 2025 | 01:09:00 | |
This week, Jamie welcomes back screenwriter Philip Ralph for an honest and thought-provoking conversation about class, creativity, and the ongoing crisis facing the TV industry. š¬ We chatted about everything from: šŗ How class continues to shape opportunity and representation š What the future of screen might hold for freelancers and working-class creatives š¬ How shows like adolescence highlight both the strengths and flaws of the current system š” The complexity of working in an industry thatās always predicated on success at all costs Ā ā ļøHow the ongoing crisis in TV is pushing talent out of the industry š§ Phils ideas for change and potential solutions ā The worst advice heās ever received in his career š What needs to change for a more sustainable industry to be born A powerful chat about sustainability, Ā working class voices, and finding hope amidst uncertainty in the screen industries. Ā š Links & Resources š¤ Philip Ralphās keynoteon class in TV (University of Leeds) šŗ Watch:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_66i8f815oA š Read:https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/common-people-reclaiming-narrative-class-tv-time-crisis-philip-ralph-efble Ā š Stay Connected Ā š§ Website:https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast Ā š Support us on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob Ā š² Follow Just Get A RealJob Ā šø Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob Ā š¬ TikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob Ā š¦ X (Twitter):https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob Ā š§ Listen on: Ā Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/2PRi8RlxPZz1zZx9zUuF8Q Ā Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/just-get-a-real-job/id1541262912 | |||
| 'Hello, how are you? (Podcast Update)ā | 03 oct. 2025 | 00:05:34 | |
Hello, how are you? Links: šĀ Visit our website:ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šĀ Support us on Patreon:ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š²Ā Follow us on: ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Instagramā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā TikTokā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š§Ā Listen on: ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Spotifyā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā | |||
| Ep. 177 - āWhatās It Really Like to Be a BBC Commissioner?ā with Nick Lambon | 14 aoĆ»t 2025 | 01:11:17 | |
Ever wondered what itās like to work at the heart of British television? BBC Commissioner Nick Lambon lifts the curtain on the realities of commissioning, producing and making some of the UKās biggest shows. This week, Jamie sits down with Nick Lambon, Commissioning Editor at the BBC, for an honest, behind-the-scenes look at the television industry. From Doctor Who to soap operas, script editing to producing, Nick takes us through his career so far, busting myths about commissioning, sharing the pressures of production and exploring the challenges facing TV in 2025. š¬ We chatted about everything from: šŗ The real role of a commissioner and the biggest myths about the job š¬ Nickās early career on Holby City šø Working on an iconic show like Doctor Who š„ The role and responsibilities of a producer šļø The BBCās unique position in the TV landscape š The challenges facing the industry right now š Current trends in commissioning š” Nickās career advice for anyone wanting to work in TV (and more!) If youāve ever wondered how shows get commissioned or what itās really like working at the BBC this episode is full of insider tips, honest truths and inspiration for your own creative career. š Visit our website:ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š Support us on Patreon:ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š² Follow us on: ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Instagramā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā TikTokā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š§ Listen on: ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Spotifyā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā | |||
| EP. 176- 'Finding Joy in the Chaos' with Sanjay Lago | 09 aoƻt 2025 | 00:49:44 | |
This week on Just Get A Real Job, Jamie sits down with actor, playwright, comedian and rising Fringe star Sanjay Lago š«Sanjay is currently performing his solo show Love Me Like a Chai Tea Latte āļø at the Edinburgh Fringe 2025, a heartfelt mix of storytelling, poetry and stand-up exploring love, identity and self-acceptance. š¬ We chatted about: šļø What itās really like taking a solo show to the Edinburgh Fringe ā Why POC and neurodiverse representation still needs work in Scottish theatre š§ Sanjayās journey with dyslexia and how it shapes his creative process š° Managing imposter syndrome as an emerging artist āļø Making your mum proud š Links: š« Book tickets for Love Me Like a Chai Tea Latte at the Edinburgh Fringe: https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/love-me-like-a-chai-tea-latte Sanjay Lago on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sanjaylago?igsh=MWN2MWdvNjZjbDh4 š Visit our website:ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š Support us on Patreon:ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š² Follow us on: ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Instagramā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā TikTokā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š§ Listen on: ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Spotifyā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Apple Podcastsā | |||
| EP. 175 - 'Building a Better Future for Young Creatives' with Sam Hornsby (ERIC App) | 01 aoƻt 2025 | 01:00:39 | |
With the UKās creative industries valued at over Ā£100 billion and growing faster than the national economy, why is it still so hard for young people to break in & have sustainable careers? In this episode, Jamie chats with Sam Hornsby, co-founder of ERIC, the free career exploration app helping young people discover exciting opportunities in the creative industries. With both Sam and her co-founder Mae facing barriers to creative careers, they set out to build the platform they wished they'd had. We talk about: šØ The story behind ERIC and how itās shaking up the industry š« The disconnect between education and creative opportunities š Why so many young people feel anxious about pursuing creative careers š¤ How AI is changing things š¢ The rollercoaster of building a startup and why mental health and community matter š ERICās goals and how theyāre getting more young people into creative careers Whether you're at the start of your journey or passionate about making the industry more accessible, this episode is full of ideas, insight, and inspiration. Links: Find out more about the ERIC App Here: ERIC | Creative Career App
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| Ep. 174 - 'Football, Fringe Dreams & Finding Your Voice' with Kate Coulson | 22 juil. 2025 | 01:13:26 | |
This week, Iām joined by the brilliant Kate Coulson an actor and writer taking her debut solo show Lioness to the Edinburgh Fringe this August. We spoke about: One for anyone making their first steps into performance, writing or the Fringe and a reminder that persistence, community and honest storytelling really do matter. I loved this conversation with Kate. Links: Fringe show:Lioness | Edinburgh Festival FringeKate's company: https://www.instagram.com/madeyoulookprods?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=cWZxazA0bXY3d2Y2 š Visit our website:ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š Support us on Patreon:ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š² Follow us on: ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Instagramā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā TikTokā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š§ Listen on: ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Spotifyā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Apple Podcastsā | |||
| Ep. 173 - āCreativity vs Commerce: Finding the Balanceā ā with Carlo Cavagna | 15 juil. 2025 | 00:57:43 | |
This week, Iām joined by the brilliant Carlo Cavagna Vice President of U.S. Operations at Two Daughters Entertainment and a key force behind the global writing programme PageCraft š¬š Carlo has worked across the creative industries for over two decades from helping launch Lionsgateās early VOD platform to leading global trade initiatives for the UK Government. These days, heās focused on helping stories (and storytellers) reach their full potential while navigating the realities of an industry in flux. We chatted about: š The differences between the UK and U.S. creative industries š¬ Why production budgets have gotten out of control š§ Helping writers get āunstuckā and crack story structure šØ Balancing the worlds of creativity and business š Why the creative industries are becoming more unequal and what needs to change šļø What the rest of the screen sector can learn from animation š” Carloās biggest lessons from a career spanning storytelling, leadership, and global media A wide-ranging chat with someone who knows the industry inside out and a reminder that no matter what changes, the world will always need good stories. Links: āļø Page Craft: https://www.pagecraftwriting.com Two Daughters Entertainment: https://twodaughtersentertainment.com š Visit our website:ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š Support us on Patreon:ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š² Follow us on: ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Instagramā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā TikTokā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š§ Listen on: ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Spotifyā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā | |||
| EP. 172 - āCreating the Community You Wish Existedā with Cat MacLeod | 11 juin 2025 | 01:11:28 | |
This week, Iām joined once again by the brilliant Cat MacLeod a returning guest and friend of the podcastĀ for a raw and honest chat about what it takes to be a creative in 2025 āØ Since we last spoke, Catās been selected for the inaugural Sean Connery Talent Lab with NFTS Scotland, where sheās directing a short film (with a real budget this time), and sheās launched _and friendsĀ a brilliant new theatre initiative that champions fresh work and supports artists in meaningful, no-gatekeeper ways. Sheās also using her platform to advocate for real change in theatre and the wider creative industry. We chatted about: š„ Burnout and finding the right balance š¼ Balancing paying the bills with creative ambition š¬ Directing a short film with a budget šŖ Launching _and friends & running a company š¤ AI and how her 2023 play Spin predicted the future š¤ The power of community and collaboration š¬ What sheās learned since our last conversation šļø Our upcoming live event and loads more! āāā šļø Tickets for our live show on June 22nd: š§ Guardian podcast we mention about AI: https://www.theguardian.com/news/audio/2025/jun/05/is-ai-about-to-steal-your-job-podcast šø Follow _and friends on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andfriends.scot | |||
| Ep. 171 - Rethinking Money, Work & Self-Worth as a Creative with David Thomas | 03 juin 2025 | 01:28:29 | |
This week on Just Get A Real Job, Jamie is joined by David Thomas a broadcaster, creative coach and trainer whoās spent the last 20 years helping people in the arts and media build more sustainable freelance careers. Davidās worked across the BBC, the UN and beyond, and now trains 100s of creatives every year. In this episode, he shares practical advice and hard-earned wisdom on everything from money to mindset. We discuss: šø Why so many creatives think theyāre bad with money š How to build a healthier relationship with your finances š§ Reframing how we think about work š¤ What weāre not taught about networking and selling our skills š§° The tools every freelancer needs š Why permanent jobs arenāt the norm anymore š» Davidās long career in radio with the BBC & what it taught him š How David turned redundancy into a thriving training business A practical and empowering episode for anyone trying to make a life and a living as a creative. Davidās website and resources: davidthomasmedia.com š Visit our website:ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š Support us on Patreon:ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š² Follow us on: ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Instagramā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā TikTokā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š§ Listen on: ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Spotifyā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā | |||
| Ep. 170 - āFinding Fun in a Crazy Industryā with Lizzy Skrzypiec | 28 mai 2025 | 00:49:06 | |
This week on Just Get A Real Job, Iām joined by Lizzy Skrzypiec. Sheās an improviser, director, and the artistic director of Bristolās long-running improv troupe Degrees of Error. Lizzy is also the creative force behind Murder, She Didnāt Write šµļøāāļø the hit improvised murder mystery show currently touring the UK after seven sold-out runs at the Edinburgh Fringe and a recent West End debut at Londonās Duchess Theatre. A key figure at the Bristol Improv Theatre, the UKās first venue dedicated entirely to improv, Lizzy regularly mentors emerging troupes and supports the next wave of British comedy talent. Alongside her theatre work, sheās built a successful full-time career in television, producing major game shows like Bridge of Lies and Ant and Decās Limitless Win šŗ In this episode, we chat about: š 13 years of Murder, She Didnāt Write š§ What improv actually isāand why itās more than just messing about šø The financial realities of freelancing in the arts š¬ Working in factual and entertainment TV š¤ Her biggest creative influences šŖ Lessons from life as a performer š Finding joy and connection in a constantly shifting industry A really fun and honest conversation with someone whoās spent over a decade finding the funny and having fun in an uncertain industry. Lizzy Skrzypiec: Murder, She Didn't Write: https://www.murdershedidntwrite.com/cast/lizzy-skrzypiec Degrees of Error Present: More Stuff She Didn't Write: https://improvtheatre.co.uk/upcoming-show/degrees-of-error-present-more-stuff-she-didnt-write/2024-05-05/ š Visit our website:ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š Support us on Patreon:ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š² Follow us on: ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Instagramā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā TikTokā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š§ Listen on: | |||
| Ep. 169 - Making Music in 2025: āwaverley.ā on Graft, Growth & Getting Heard | 20 mai 2025 | 01:04:45 | |
šļø Episode 169 of Just Get A Real Job is out now and this week, Jamie is joined by the brilliant Edinburgh-based band Waverley. Known for blending Americana-inspired indie rock with folk-rooted songwriting, Waverleyās sound has drawn comparisons to Bon Iver, Frightened Rabbit, and King Creosote with dynamic shifts, dueling vocals, and a darker, heavier edge. Their new EP āFlailā is out now, following the success of their 2023 debut It Makes An Emptiness Of A Crowded Place. In this episode, we chat all about: šø How the band came together š§ The making of their new EP Flail š” Their songwriting process & creative influences š¤ What itās really like making music in 2025 š¤Æ The highs and lows of being an emerging band š Advice for other independent musicians ā¦ and loads more! Itās a thoughtful, funny, and inspiring conversation with one of Scotlandās most exciting new acts. š§ Now streaming on Spotify, Apple & YouTube waverly.: waverly. on Bandcamp: https://waverley.bandcamp.com/ 'Flail' EP on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/07a9S1kyWAu9lz1Tuqczin š Visit our website:ā ā ā ā ā ā ā https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā ā ā ā š Support us on Patreon:ā ā ā ā ā ā ā www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā ā ā ā š² Follow us on: ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Instagramā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā TikTokā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š§ Listen on: | |||
| Ep. 168 - āGrowing an Improv Sceneā with Martin James | 13 mai 2025 | 00:55:15 | |
šļø This week on Just Get A Real Job, Jamie is joined by Martin James ā co-founder of the Glasgow Improv Theatre (GIT) and a driving force behind Scotlandās growing improv scene. They chatted all about:
Itās a loose, thoughtful, and inspiring chat about taking risks, building something from the ground up, and the joy of saying āyes, andā¦ā Martin James: Glasgow Improv Theatre: https://improvglasgow.co.uk/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAacRFf1ZJfiLeceY4zDE-eDjryHB9mo3CKYD4s0Nm9SCh3jglC2T70tZ5URKzA_aem_3uDSt87HvPDg19dUWMt-Zw Glasgow Improv Theatre on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/improvglasgow/ š Visit our website:ā ā ā ā ā ā https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā ā ā š Support us on Patreon:ā ā ā ā ā ā www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā ā ā š² Follow us on: ā ā ā ā ā ā Instagramā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā TikTokā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā ā ā š§ Listen on: | |||
| Ep. 167 - āThe Cancellation of River City and What It Means for TVā | 22 avr. 2025 | 00:21:16 | |
Episode 167 is a little different: weāre sharing an excerpt from my chat on the Cinora YouTube channel with filmmaker ā and returning pal ā AshleyāÆDick. We dive into the shock cancellation of BBCāÆScotlandās flagship soap RiverāÆCity and what the decision signals for drama production across Scotland and the wider UK. Since the recording, the fight to save the show has exploded. Famous faces ā RichardāÆE.āÆGrant, EwanāÆMcGregor, MiriamāÆMargolyes and NicolaāÆSturgeon among them ā have lent their voices, and a motion to keep RiverāÆCity on air will soon be heard in the Scottish Parliament. In this chat we talk about:
Hit play, share your thoughts, and help keep Scotlandās storytelling future alive. Check out the full video over on the Cinora Channel. Full video from Cinora š½š¦: The cancellation of Soaps and what it means for TV ---- š Visit our website:ā ā ā ā ā https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā ā š Support us on Patreon:ā ā ā ā ā www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā ā š² Follow us on: ā ā ā ā ā Instagramā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā TikTokā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā ā š§ Listen on: | |||
| EP. 166 ā Storytelling, Social Mobility & Building a Hit Podcast with David McIntosh Jr. | 16 avr. 2025 | 00:53:24 | |
This week on Just Get A Real Job, Jamie is joined by David McIntosh Jr. ā host of Origin Stories (formerly The Development by David Podcast). š§ David launched his podcast back in 2020 from his council estate bedroom in Scotland ā no contacts, no budget, just a cheap mic and a clear mission: to spotlight inspiring origin stories. Since then, heās racked up over 1.5 million hits, interviewed huge names like Seth Godin, Rory Sutherland and Jimmy Carr, and built a brand rooted in storytelling, self-development, and social mobility. Now, with Origin Stories, heās stepping into the next stage of his podcasting journey ā continuing his mission and pushing things even further. In this honest conversation, Jamie and David chat about: šļø The next stage of his podcasting journey and launching Origin Stories š What it was really like interviewing Jimmy Carr š± Social mobility and why itās at the heart of Davidās mission š The lonely chapter ā and how to keep going when it feels like no one cares š The future of podcasting and content creation
š§ What we can all learn from our own origin stories āļø How to actually run a podcast š„ Drive, grit, and building something from nothing Tune in for inspiring insights, actionable advice, and a powerful reminder that itās possible to build something incredible from scratch. Links: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/davidmcintoshjr/ https://www.youtube.com/@UC7DyXv_nJZncHdRn1WJdvNQ š Visit our website:ā ā ā ā https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā š Support us on Patreon:ā ā ā ā www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā š² Follow us on: ā ā ā ā Instagramā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā TikTokā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā š§ Listen on: ā ā ā ā Spotifyā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Apple Podcasts | |||
| Ep. 165: āMaking the Arts Inclusive for Allā with Robert Softley Gales | 08 avr. 2025 | 01:03:18 | |
This week on Just Get A Real Job, Iām joined by the brilliant Robert Softley Gale ā a Scottish theatre-maker,Ā whoās spent over two decades championing inclusivity and accessibility in the arts. As Artistic Director of Birds of Paradise ā Scotlandās leading disability-led theatre company ā Robert has reshaped the conversation around representation, storytelling, and what theatre can be. In 2024, he was recognised in The List Hot 100 for his powerful contributions to the industry. We talk about why disability should never be a barrier to working in the arts, and how Robertās work continues to break down outdated ideas around access, casting, and creativity. In this episode, we chat about:
If you care about theatre, storytelling, or building a more inclusive creative industry ā this oneās for you. š§ Tune in now wherever you get your podcasts ā and donāt forget to subscribe, rate, and share! Robert Softley Gale: Birds of Paradise Theatre Company: https://www.boptheatre.co.uk/ ------ š Visit our website:ā ā ā ā https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā š Support us on Patreon:ā ā ā ā www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā š² Follow us on: ā ā ā ā Instagramā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā š§ Listen on: | |||
| Ep. 164 - āBeing a Creative in 2025ā with James Piercy and Tayla Kenyon | 01 avr. 2025 | 01:03:09 | |
This week, I am joined by James Piercy and Tayla Kenyon, the creative minds behind Fluff and Tepee Productions. They share their journey of launching a theatre company, the importance of collaboration, and the realities of being a creative in 2025. In this episode, we discuss: š The inspiration behind Fluff šØ The challenges of starting a theatre company š¤ Why collaboration is key š Making theatre more accessible š” Advice for creatives navigating the industry today If you're passionate about theatre and the creative arts, this episode is a must-listen. Tune in for an inspiring conversation on creativity, collaboration, and storytelling in 2025.
------ š Visit our website:ā ā ā https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā š Support us on Patreon:ā ā ā www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā š² Follow us on: ā ā ā X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā š§ Listen on: | |||
| Ep. 163 ā 'The TV Industry Is Broken, How Do We Fix It?' with Claire Duffy | 26 mars 2025 | 01:11:39 | |
In Episode 163 of Just Get A Real Job, we're joined by Claire Duffy, the founder of the Glasgow TV Festival. With the television industry facing major challenges, Claire shares her insights on how we can drive meaningful change, challenge outdated systems, and create a more sustainable future for creatives. In this episode, we discuss: š¬ The vision behind the Glasgow TV Festival and why Claire founded it šŗ Why the TV industry needs disruptionāand how we can fix it š Lessons modern TV can learn from old Hollywood š” The biggest lessons Claire has learned in her career š¤ļø Her journey into the creative industries and early career experiences š¼ Should creatives be more business-minded, or is entrepreneurship overrated? š„ Why the industry is failing audiencesāand what needs to change š¢ Claireās advice for writers, producers, and anyone navigating the industry If you care about the future of television, this episode is a must-listen. Tune in for an eye-opening conversation that explores whatās broken, whatās working, and what we can do next. Claire on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/csduffywriter/?hl=en Glasgow Telly Festival:https://fikastudios.substack.com/p/what-is-a-glasgow-telly-festival?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web The National Article: https://www.thenational.scot/news/25036687.river-city-script-editor-warns-lost-opportunities-scotland/?ref=eb&nid=1948&block=article_block_a&u=077ccd065ce39b0e16b06a803ce0ef76&date=250325 Cinora Interview - The cancellation of River City and what it means for UK TV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_iStCXXgEs&t=311s Live Q & A āTime travel is dangerousā film: https://tickets.showcasecinemas.co.uk/login/0128/162457 ------ š Visit our website:ā ā https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā š Support us on Patreon:ā ā www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā š² Follow us on: ā ā X (formerly Twitter)ā ā š§ Listen on: | |||
| Ep.162 ā āMaking Broadway Dreams a Realityā with Drew Gasparini | 14 mars 2025 | 01:11:33 | |
In this episode of Just Get a Real Job, weāre joined by award-winning composer and songwriter Drew Gasparini. Known for his dynamic contributions to musical theatre and television, Drewās work includes the Broadway adaptation of The Karate Kid and the hit musical I Could Use a Drink. His latest show, We Arenāt Kids Anymore comes to the Savoy Theatre on April 28th. We discuss: š Navigating the UK and US creative scenes š¶ Composing for musical theatre š” The essence of being an artist š° Overcoming financial challenges early in his career š The importance of valuing the arts in society š¤ Supporting emerging talent ā Managing uncertainty in creative professions š His unique writing process š§ Mental health in the arts ā and much more. Donāt miss this insightful and inspiring conversation ------ š Visit our website:ā https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā š Support us on Patreon:ā www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā š² Follow us on: š§ Listen on: | |||
| Ep. 161 ā 'Telling Stories for Stage & Screen' with Morna Young | 05 mars 2025 | 01:14:53 | |
This week, weāre joined by Scottish writer Morna Young, whose powerful storytelling has made waves in theatre and on screen. From tackling imposter syndrome to writing the River City Christmas special, Morna shares her journey, the highs and lows of her career, and the valuable lessons sheās learned along the way. We chat about: š Playwriting vs. screenwriting š¤Æ Imposter syndrome & feeling out of place š The story behind Lost at Sea, her debut play šļø How growing up in the north-east of Scotland has shaped her writing. āļø Writing the River City Christmas special š¤ Learning how to pitch and sell your work š Advice for up-and-coming writers and creatives An honest, inspiring conversation filled with insights for writers and creatives Morna Young: š Visit Morna Youngās website: https://www.mornayoung.com/ ------ š Visit our website: https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast š Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob š² Follow us on: š§ Listen on: | |||
| Ep. 160 ā āMaking a Career in Comedyā with Jordan Brookes | 26 fĆ©vr. 2025 | 01:07:06 | |
This week, we're joined by the hilarious Jordan Brookes, an award-winning comic known for pushing boundaries in stand-up. His latest show, Fontanelle, is currently running at Soho Theatre and we dive into the highs and lows of comedy, taking creative risks and how the industry is evolving. In this episode, Jordan discusses:
Jordan Brookes š Jordan Brookes: Fontanelle ā Soho Theatre ā https://sohotheatre.com/shows/fontanelleš¤ Jordan Brookes ā Comedian āhttps://www.jordanbrookescomedy.com ā¶ļø Watch the full discussion on YouTube š Visit our website: https://www.justgetarealjob.com š Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobĀ š² Follow us on:Facebook | Instagram | TikTok | X š§ Listen on:Spotify | Apple Podcasts | |||
| EP. 159 - 'The UK TV Industry is in Crisis: What Happens Now?ā | A Live Panel Discussion | 20 fĆ©vr. 2025 | 01:55:55 | |
This weekās episode is something differentāa live panel discussion featuring voices from across the UK TV industry, including Philip Ralph, Ashley Catherine Dick, Marcus Anthony Thomas, Nasreen Ahmed, and Vito Milazzo. After a brutal year of job losses, production slowdowns, and financial struggles, weāve made it to 2025ābut what happens now? Many hoped things would improve, but if anything, the industryās challenges are deepening. In this live discussion, we explore: š Useful links: ā¶ļø Watch the full discussion on YouTube š² Follow us on: š§ Listen on: | |||
| Ep. 158 - Q&A 4 Year Special ā "Imposter Syndrome, Growth, Creative Careers, Lessons & Griefā | 12 fĆ©vr. 2025 | 00:59:51 | |
Weāre celebrating 4 years of podcasting with a special Q&A episode! Recorded at The Green Room Podcast Studio, previous guest Adair Murray takes over as host, putting your listener-submitted questions to me! We chatted about: ā¢ The best moments from Just Get A Real Job ā¢ My biggest lessons in podcasting and the creative industries ā¢ Navigating a career in TV ā¢ Overcoming imposter syndrome and self-doubt ā¢ Losing my grandad and dealing with grief ā¢ Networking tips for creatives ā¢ Future goals and whatās next for the podcast ā¢ Mental health in the creative industries ā¢ And much more! Tune in for an honest and insightful conversation about the journey behind the podcast and the ups and downs of building a creative career. Adair Murray: adairmusic | Instagram, TikTok | Linktree Links: Watch on our YouTube Channel:Ā https://www.youtube.com/@justgetarealjobĀ Ā | |||