Explore every episode of the podcast Journey Beyond Divorce Podcast
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| From First Filing to Financial Freedom: The Divorce Financial Team & Playbook with Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan | 30 May 2026 | 00:44:01 | |
Every major life transition comes with a roadmap. Parenting. Career changes. Retirement. But when divorce begins, most people are suddenly making complex financial decisions alone — without a coordinated team, without a clear plan, and without any idea how those decisions will quietly shape their lives for decades to come. That ends today. Karen McMahon sits down with Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan, co-founders of My Divorce Solution, to walk you through what they call the Divorce Financial Playbook — and it is exactly what most people wish they'd had from day one. As divorced parents themselves, they built the company they wish had existed, because no one should have to navigate divorce finances in the dark. In this conversation, they cover the full financial arc of divorce — from initiation through discovery, negotiation, settlement, and into post-divorce stability. Karen and Catherine break down why your financial team needs to be in place at the start of your divorce, not after you've already settled. They walk through how to accurately document income and expenses the way courts actually interpret them, how to verify assets and debts with statements rather than spreadsheets, and what most people miss when it comes to liens, collateral, and tax implications. They also explore how preparing early doesn't just protect your financial future — it reduces fear, makes your attorney more effective, and positions you to negotiate from a place of clarity rather than chaos. If you've ever felt overwhelmed by the financial side of divorce, this episode is your playbook. Connect with Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan:
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| When Divorce Tests Your Faith: Protecting Kids & Staying Strong with Top Divorce Lawyer, Bree Sullivan-Howell, JD | 20 May 2026 | 00:41:34 | |
Divorce can rattle everything you believe in. Your sense of family, your identity, and even your understanding of God's plan for your life... And for many Christians, the place that should offer the most comfort, the church, can sometimes feel like the last place they're able to be honest about what they're going through. In this episode, Karen sits down with Bree Sullivan-Howell, divorce attorney, passionate children's advocate, and award-winning Christian author of Crush Your Divorce & Keep Your Faith and Crush Your Comeback, for a conversation that brings together sharp legal wisdom and deep spiritual grounding in a way that is rarely offered to people navigating divorce. With more than 20 years of experience in high-stakes custody litigation and family law, Bree has sat with men and women at some of the most painful and disorienting moments of their lives. What she brings to this conversation is both practical and profound, an understanding of how faith doesn't disappear in the middle of relational chaos, but can actually deepen through it. Karen and Bree explore how traditional church messaging can unintentionally shame Christian women going through divorce, how misunderstood scripture can leave people feeling pressured to stay in unhealthy or even abusive marriages, and how an eternal perspective, rooted in prayer and truth, can replace fear with clarity. Bree shares how she weaves scriptural wisdom directly into her legal strategy, encouraging clients toward dignified conduct, truthful evidence, and emotional steadiness even when everything around them feels unstable. They also speak candidly about fathers navigating custody, a dimension of divorce that often goes underserved. Bree addresses the reality that many loving, involved dads face an uphill battle to stay connected to their children, often needing to "double prove" their parenting, resist adopting a negative narrative pushed by an ex, and communicate with intention using tools like BIFF, all while continuing to simply show up for their kids, consistently and without fail. Whether you are at the beginning of this process, in the thick of it, or trying to find solid ground on the other side, this episode offers both the legal clarity and the spiritual encouragement to take your next step with confidence. God's purpose doesn't end when the marriage does, and this conversation is a powerful reminder of that. Connect with Bree:
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| The ABCs of Spousal Support: What It Is, How It Works, and What to Expect w. Anthony Diaz, Esq. | 09 Mar 2026 | 00:44:54 | |
Money has a way of stirring up a lot during divorce—fear, anger, uncertainty, and sometimes a deep sense of injustice. And when it comes to spousal support, those emotions can run even higher. Questions like Who pays? For how long? And what's actually fair? can quickly turn into battlegrounds if you don't understand how the process really works. In today's episode, I'm joined by Anthony Diaz, also known as The Peacemaker—a family law attorney, mediator, and conflict resolution expert who has spent decades helping couples navigate divorce with greater clarity and far less conflict. Together, we unpack what spousal support really is, the factors courts consider, and how to approach these conversations from a place of calm strategy rather than fear or reactivity. Spousal support is often one of the most misunderstood and emotionally charged aspects of divorce. Anthony helps bring clarity to the different types of support, the factors that determine whether support is awarded, how much is paid, and how long it may last. We also discuss how courts evaluate income and assets, when support can be modified, and why approaching these negotiations collaboratively often leads to far better long-term outcomes for both partners and their families. If financial conversations with your spouse have been tense or triggering, this episode will help you better understand the landscape so you can stay grounded, think strategically, and make informed decisions rather than reacting from fear. Anthony Diaz is not your typical divorce attorney. A Florida-based Family Law and Collaborative Divorce Attorney, Supreme Court Certified Family Law Mediator, and national conflict resolution expert, Anthony has dedicated his career to helping couples experience divorce in a more thoughtful and peaceful way. With a unique background as a former CPA and Assistant State Attorney, he brings both financial expertise and emotional intelligence to the process, helping families avoid unnecessary courtroom battles while creating solutions that support stability and respect. His philosophy is simple but powerful: even in divorce, peace is possible. Connect with Anthony: Anthony is offering a complimentary eBook to support you on your journey, which you can download at anthonydiazlaw.com/subscribe. To learn more about his work or schedule a consultation, visit anthonydiazlaw.com. Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
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| Financial Roadmap to Divorce: The Power of Budgeting and Analysis with Victoria Kirilloff CDFA®, NCPM®, CDS® | 28 Sep 2024 | 00:43:03 | |
In this episode, we explore the often-overwhelming financial aspects of divorce, a crucial topic for anyone navigating this life transition. Understanding your finances can lead to a fair and sustainable outcome, helping you take control even when emotions are running high. Episode Highlights
Guest Spotlight: Victoria Kirilloff Our guest, Victoria Kirilloff, is a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst® and the founder of Divorce Analytics. Drawing from her personal experience escaping an abusive relationship, Victoria created the Divorce Impact Analysis report to help others achieve financial clarity during divorce. She aims to transform the divorce process from destructive to productive, empowering individuals to make informed financial decisions.
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A word from our sponsors: Soberlink is a revolutionary tool designed to support individuals in their journey to sobriety. As a leading provider of remote alcohol monitoring, Soberlink offers a secure and reliable solution that helps people stay accountable and transparent in their recovery process. We're grateful for Soberlink's commitment to enhancing the recovery process and providing valuable resources to our listeners. Learn more about how Soberlink can make a difference in your journey at www.soberlink.com/jbd ======= TalkingParents provides a comprehensive platform designed to simplify co-parenting and enhance communication between parents. With secure messaging, a shared calendar, and features for tracking parenting time, TalkingParents ensures that all important details and agreements are documented and accessible. We're grateful for TalkingParents' support in simplifying co-parenting and enhancing communication for our listeners. Discover how TalkingParents can bring clarity and organization to your co-parenting journey at www.talkingparents.com/jbd
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| Guiding Your Young Children Through Divorce: Essential Strategies with Dr. David Marcus, PhD | 26 Sep 2024 | 00:53:42 | |
In this episode, we dive into effective strategies for communicating with young children (ages 3-7) during a divorce. We discuss how crucial it is to help children develop their emotional language, allowing them to articulate their feelings. By guiding them to use their words, parents can be a soothing presence, helping their children process emotions rather than suppressing them.
We also explore the challenging behaviors that can emerge when young children lack a safe space to express their feelings. These behaviors may include regression, sibling conflicts, or even taking on a caretaking role towards a parent. Understanding these signs can help parents respond with empathy and create a nurturing environment for their children.
Lastly, we emphasize the importance of self-care for parents. By taking care of themselves, parents can ensure they are emotionally available and better equipped to support their young children through this difficult time.
Dr. David S. Marcus, Ph.D., is a leading expert in child psychology with a focus on how children cope with divorce. His work emphasizes the importance of emotional literacy and the role of parents in fostering a supportive environment during significant life changes like divorce.
Connect with Dr. Marcus: Website: http://parentrx.org/
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A word from our sponsors: Soberlink is a revolutionary tool designed to support individuals in their journey to sobriety. As a leading provider of remote alcohol monitoring, Soberlink offers a secure and reliable solution that helps people stay accountable and transparent in their recovery process. We're grateful for Soberlink's commitment to enhancing the recovery process and providing valuable resources to our listeners. Learn more about how Soberlink can make a difference in your journey at www.soberlink.com/jbd ======= TalkingParents provides a comprehensive platform designed to simplify co-parenting and enhance communication between parents. With secure messaging, a shared calendar, and features for tracking parenting time, TalkingParents ensures that all important details and agreements are documented and accessible. We're grateful for TalkingParents' support in simplifying co-parenting and enhancing communication for our listeners. Discover how TalkingParents can bring clarity and organization to your co-parenting journey at www.talkingparents.com/jbd | |||
| Emotional Sobriety During Divorce: A Game Changer with Master Life Coach & Addiction Recovery Specialist, Colleen Kachmann | 17 Sep 2024 | 00:54:11 | |
In this enlightening episode, we dive into the concept of emotional sobriety with the insightful Colleen Kachmann. Colleen, a recovery-certified Master Coach and author of *Life Off the Label: A Handbook for Creating Your Own Brand of Health and Happiness*, shares her expertise on how emotional sobriety can transform your life. Episode Highlights
Guest Spotlight: Colleen Kachmann Colleen is a distinguished health coach with a MSc in health coaching and a BS in education. Colleen specializes in helping women bypass the stigma often associated with sobriety by focusing on the crucial relationship with oneself. Her Emotional Sobriety program is a cornerstone of her approach, featuring seven core skills that promote emotional wellness through awareness, a growth mindset, and more. Colleen's unique integration of emotional intelligence, positive psychology, and coaching empowers women to embrace their own power and redesign their lives. Her practical advice and inspiring examples offer listeners valuable insights into achieving emotional sobriety and fostering a healthier, happier future. Tune in to gain profound insights into emotional sobriety and learn how to start your own transformative journey with Colleen's expert guidance.
Connect with Colleen: TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hangoverwhisperer
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A word from our sponsors: Soberlink is a revolutionary tool designed to support individuals in their journey to sobriety. As a leading provider of remote alcohol monitoring, Soberlink offers a secure and reliable solution that helps people stay accountable and transparent in their recovery process. We're grateful for Soberlink's commitment to enhancing the recovery process and providing valuable resources to our listeners. Learn more about how Soberlink can make a difference in your journey at www.soberlink.com/jbd ======= TalkingParents provides a comprehensive platform designed to simplify co-parenting and enhance communication between parents. With secure messaging, a shared calendar, and features for tracking parenting time, TalkingParents ensures that all important details and agreements are documented and accessible. We're grateful for TalkingParents' support in simplifying co-parenting and enhancing communication for our listeners. Discover how TalkingParents can bring clarity and organization to your co-parenting journey at www.talkingparents.com/jbd | |||
| Mediating Complex Divorce: 5 Keys to Success with Retired Judge, Jessica Ticktin, Esq. | 08 Sep 2024 | 00:38:48 | |
In today's episode we delve into the art of mediating a complex divorce. Navigating the choppy waters of a high-stakes divorce can be overwhelming, but mediation can offer a more effective and streamlined approach—if you follow the right strategies. Episode Highlights
Guest Spotlight: Judge Jessica Ticktin We are thrilled to welcome Judge Jessica Ticktin to the episode. A retired Circuit Judge of the Fifteenth Judicial Circuit of Florida, Jessica served as the Administrative Judge in the family, probate, and guardianship division in South Palm Beach. With her extensive experience on the bench and her dedication to mediating family, probate, guardianship, and civil disputes, Judge Ticktin brings invaluable expertise to our discussion. Her deep understanding of the legal landscape and passion for resolving disputes amicably make her an exceptional resource for navigating the complexities of divorce mediation.
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A word from our sponsors: Soberlink is a revolutionary tool designed to support individuals in their journey to sobriety. As a leading provider of remote alcohol monitoring, Soberlink offers a secure and reliable solution that helps people stay accountable and transparent in their recovery process. We're grateful for Soberlink's commitment to enhancing the recovery process and providing valuable resources to our listeners. Learn more about how Soberlink can make a difference in your journey at www.soberlink.com/jbd ======= TalkingParents provides a comprehensive platform designed to simplify co-parenting and enhance communication between parents. With secure messaging, a shared calendar, and features for tracking parenting time, TalkingParents ensures that all important details and agreements are documented and accessible. Whether you're coordinating schedules or sharing crucial documents, TalkingParents offers a reliable solution for maintaining clarity and organization in your co-parenting arrangement. We're grateful for TalkingParents' support in simplifying co-parenting and enhancing communication for our listeners. Discover how TalkingParents can bring clarity and organization to your co-parenting journey at www.talkingparents.com/jbd | |||
| Uncertainty During Divorce: Embracing A Path to Growth | 03 Sep 2024 | 00:12:45 | |
Welcome to another episode of Journey Beyond Divorce, where we tackle the often overwhelming journey of navigating through a high-conflict divorce. Today, we dive deep into the theme of Divorce and Uncertainty.
Divorce inevitably brings a whirlwind of emotions and uncertainties, leaving many feeling lost and overwhelmed. This episode is dedicated to helping you embrace these feelings and transform them into opportunities for growth and self-discovery. We will explore how to face your fears head-on, recognize the areas of uncertainty, and challenge the negative what-if thoughts that often plague our minds during this tumultuous time.
In this episode, we will guide you through practical steps to shift your perspective from loss to possibility. By examining the worst-case scenarios and daring to dream about the best outcomes, you'll learn to play with positive what-if thoughts and believe that everything happening is ultimately for your growth. Join me as we embark on this journey of turning fear into fuel, and discovering the potential for a brighter, more empowered future beyond divorce.
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TalkingParents provides a comprehensive platform designed to simplify co-parenting and enhance communication between parents. With secure messaging, a shared calendar, and features for tracking parenting time, TalkingParents ensures that all important details and agreements are documented and accessible. Whether you're coordinating schedules or sharing crucial documents, TalkingParents offers a reliable solution for maintaining clarity and organization in your co-parenting arrangement. TalkingParents also helps reduce conflict by keeping communication focused and professional. The platform's built-in tools promote transparency and accountability, making it easier to manage parenting responsibilities and address issues constructively. Visit TalkingParents.com to discover how their services can support your co-parenting journey and bring peace of mind to your family. | |||
| Former Divorce Attorney Turned Marriage & Divorce Coach: Meet JBD's Newest Coach, Kara Francis | 28 Aug 2024 | 00:24:08 | |
Kara Francis is a former divorce attorney turned Marriage & Divorce Coach. She has also personally been through divorce.
A word from our sponsors: Soberlink is a revolutionary tool designed to support individuals in their journey to sobriety. As a leading provider of remote alcohol monitoring, Soberlink offers a secure and reliable solution that helps people stay accountable and transparent in their recovery process.
With its cutting-edge technology, Soberlink enables users to easily and discreetly submit breathalyzer tests from anywhere, providing real-time results and facilitating ongoing support from loved ones and professionals. Whether you're navigating personal recovery or supporting someone in their journey, Soberlink's innovative approach ensures a higher level of accountability and peace of mind.
We're grateful for Soberlink's commitment to enhancing the recovery process and providing valuable resources to our listeners. Learn more about how Soberlink can make a difference in your journey at www.soberlink.com/jbd
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TalkingParents provides a comprehensive platform designed to simplify co-parenting and enhance communication between parents. With secure messaging, a shared calendar, and features for tracking parenting time, TalkingParents ensures that all important details and agreements are documented and accessible. Whether you're coordinating schedules or sharing crucial documents, TalkingParents offers a reliable solution for maintaining clarity and organization in your co-parenting arrangement. TalkingParents also helps reduce conflict by keeping communication focused and professional. The platform's built-in tools promote transparency and accountability, making it easier to manage parenting responsibilities and address issues constructively. Visit TalkingParents.com to discover how their services can support your co-parenting journey and bring peace of mind to your family.
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| Stay-at-Home Mom's Journey: Overcoming Divorce, Identity Crisis, and Finding Strength in Faith with JBD Client, Lisa Gucchiardo | 26 Aug 2024 | 00:40:30 | |
A stay at home, homeschooling mom shares her journey of feeling lost and unseen yet loving being a mom and wife. As her marriage dissolved, so too did her identity. Through a journey from fear to faith, Lisa found her voice and leaned heavily into her Heavenly Father, strengthening her faith and resolve to grow through this difficult transition.
During Lisa's divorce one child faced deep struggles, another got engage and married and she navigated an identity crisis and overwhelming fear, landing on the other side of divorce, happily employed with a great relationship with her kids and her relationship with God. Journey Beyond Divorce Resources mentioned in this episode:
A word from our sponsors: Soberlink is a revolutionary tool designed to support individuals in their journey to sobriety. As a leading provider of remote alcohol monitoring, Soberlink offers a secure and reliable solution that helps people stay accountable and transparent in their recovery process. With its cutting-edge technology, Soberlink enables users to easily and discreetly submit breathalyzer tests from anywhere, providing real-time results and facilitating ongoing support from loved ones and professionals. Whether you're navigating personal recovery or supporting someone in their journey, Soberlink's innovative approach ensures a higher level of accountability and peace of mind. We're grateful for Soberlink's commitment to enhancing the recovery process and providing valuable resources to our listeners. Learn more about how Soberlink can make a difference in your journey at www.soberlink.com/jbd ======= TalkingParents provides a comprehensive platform designed to simplify co-parenting and enhance communication between parents. With secure messaging, a shared calendar, and features for tracking parenting time, TalkingParents ensures that all important details and agreements are documented and accessible. Whether you're coordinating schedules or sharing crucial documents, TalkingParents offers a reliable solution for maintaining clarity and organization in your co-parenting arrangement. TalkingParents also helps reduce conflict by keeping communication focused and professional. The platform's built-in tools promote transparency and accountability, making it easier to manage parenting responsibilities and address issues constructively. Visit TalkingParents.com to discover how their services can support your co-parenting journey and bring peace of mind to your family. | |||
| Empower Your Post-Divorce Journey: The Benefits of Solo Travel for Self-Discovery with Dawn Pick Benson | 21 Aug 2024 | 00:31:48 | |
Today, we're delving into the transformative power of solo travel, especially for those navigating the challenging waters of divorce. Join us as we uncover how embracing self-discovery through solo journeys can be a powerful tool for healing and personal growth. Whether you're looking to reclaim your sense of adventure or find new perspectives on your life after a major change, this episode is packed with insights on how travel can help you expand into the next chapter of your life. Episode Highlights
Guest Spotlight: Dawn Pick Benson Dawn is a renowned transformational travel coach and the Founder & Owner of GlobeStory. With a career spanning nearly 50 countries and significant experience living and working in the Middle East and Eastern Europe, Dawn brings a rich tapestry of insights to our discussion. As a Global Ambassador for the Travel Coach Network and a Certified Cultural Intelligence facilitator, her expertise has been featured in top publications like The Washington Post, TripAdvisor, The New York Times, Wander, and Woman's World. Dawn's passion for helping women rediscover themselves through travel is both inspiring and transformative. Tune in to hear how her unique approach can help you embrace your next chapter through the power of solo travel.
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A word from our sponsors: Soberlink is a revolutionary tool designed to support individuals in their journey to sobriety. As a leading provider of remote alcohol monitoring, Soberlink offers a secure and reliable solution that helps people stay accountable and transparent in their recovery process.
With its cutting-edge technology, Soberlink enables users to easily and discreetly submit breathalyzer tests from anywhere, providing real-time results and facilitating ongoing support from loved ones and professionals. Whether you're navigating personal recovery or supporting someone in their journey, Soberlink's innovative approach ensures a higher level of accountability and peace of mind.
We're grateful for Soberlink's commitment to enhancing the recovery process and providing valuable resources to our listeners. Learn more about how Soberlink can make a difference in your journey at www.soberlink.com/jbd
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TalkingParents provides a comprehensive platform designed to simplify co-parenting and enhance communication between parents. With secure messaging, a shared calendar, and features for tracking parenting time, TalkingParents ensures that all important details and agreements are documented and accessible. Whether you're coordinating schedules or sharing crucial documents, TalkingParents offers a reliable solution for maintaining clarity and organization in your co-parenting arrangement. TalkingParents also helps reduce conflict by keeping communication focused and professional. The platform's built-in tools promote transparency and accountability, making it easier to manage parenting responsibilities and address issues constructively. Visit TalkingParents.com to discover how their services can support your co-parenting journey and bring peace of mind to your family. | |||
| Navigating Temporary Shared Custody: Tips for Co-Parenting During Divorce | 19 Aug 2024 | 00:19:09 | |
Temporary shared custody is one of the hardest parts of divorce. Both parents experience deep emotions when it comes to their children, making this transition challenging but crucial. It's a time of significant change, and embracing temporary shared parenting can ultimately benefit everyone involved. For the primary parent, adjusting to not being with the kids all the time can be a struggle. They might initially believe that the other parent isn't capable of taking care of the children simply because they haven't had the opportunity before. However, seeing how the other parent engages with the kids can provide valuable insights into co-parenting and the effectiveness of a temporary parenting plan. This period of adjustment also offers the primary parent some 'free time,' which can be used for self-care and personal growth.
For the primary income earner, experiencing the custody schedule they are fighting for can be eye-opening. They might discover that their work schedule needs adjusting or that they enjoy the increased time with their children and make it a priority. On the other hand, they might realize that sustaining such an arrangement is not feasible due to work or travel obligations. For the kids, spending time alone with each parent helps them see that different parenting styles are not necessarily bad, just different. This transition allows everyone to step out of denial and start experiencing life differently, even while still living under the same roof. Understanding the dynamics of temporary shared custody can lead to a more harmonious co-parenting experience and better outcomes for the entire family.
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A word from our sponsors: Soberlink is a revolutionary tool designed to support individuals in their journey to sobriety. As a leading provider of remote alcohol monitoring, Soberlink offers a secure and reliable solution that helps people stay accountable and transparent in their recovery process.
With its cutting-edge technology, Soberlink enables users to easily and discreetly submit breathalyzer tests from anywhere, providing real-time results and facilitating ongoing support from loved ones and professionals. Whether you're navigating personal recovery or supporting someone in their journey, Soberlink's innovative approach ensures a higher level of accountability and peace of mind.
We're grateful for Soberlink's commitment to enhancing the recovery process and providing valuable resources to our listeners. Learn more about how Soberlink can make a difference in your journey at www.soberlink.com/jbd
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TalkingParents provides a comprehensive platform designed to simplify co-parenting and enhance communication between parents. With secure messaging, a shared calendar, and features for tracking parenting time, TalkingParents ensures that all important details and agreements are documented and accessible. Whether you're coordinating schedules or sharing crucial documents, TalkingParents offers a reliable solution for maintaining clarity and organization in your co-parenting arrangement. TalkingParents also helps reduce conflict by keeping communication focused and professional. The platform's built-in tools promote transparency and accountability, making it easier to manage parenting responsibilities and address issues constructively. Visit TalkingParents.com to discover how their services can support your co-parenting journey and bring peace of mind to your family. | |||
| The Codependency Revolution: Break Generations of Family Dysfunction with Codependency Expert, Ross Rosenberg | 13 Aug 2024 | 00:43:20 | |
Join us as we unpack the wisdom of *The Codependency Revolution* and learn how to create a future free from the chains of codependency. Episode Highlights:
Guest Spotlight: Ross Rosenberg Ross Rosenberg, M. Ed., LCPC, CADC, is a global thought leader and renowned expert in codependency, narcissism, narcissistic abuse, and trauma treatment. He is the Self-Love Recovery Institute's CEO/owner and primary contributor. His latest book, "The Codependency Revolution: Fixing What Was Always Broken" exposes the shadow side of a field that has always been lost, never established credibility, and, without bad intentions, hurt far more people than it has helped.
It provides compelling insights on a complex, frequently misunderstood topic while offering a historical explanation for why he is "fixing what has always been broken." Additionally, his pioneering contributions to the mental health field include sweeping theoretical and practical updates (revision) on codependency, which he aptly renamed "Self-Love Deficit Disorder™."
He is renowned for his expert psychotherapy, public speaker/educator, and expert witness work. Ross's global success is illustrated by his 30 million YouTube video views and 295K subscribers. His "Self-Love Recovery" podcast is globally ranked at 2.5%, with over 200K downloads.
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Soberlink is a revolutionary tool designed to support individuals in their journey to sobriety. As a leading provider of remote alcohol monitoring, Soberlink offers a secure and reliable solution that helps people stay accountable and transparent in their recovery process.
With its cutting-edge technology, Soberlink enables users to easily and discreetly submit breathalyzer tests from anywhere, providing real-time results and facilitating ongoing support from loved ones and professionals. Whether you're navigating personal recovery or supporting someone in their journey, Soberlink's innovative approach ensures a higher level of accountability and peace of mind.
We're grateful for Soberlink's commitment to enhancing the recovery process and providing valuable resources to our listeners. Learn more about how Soberlink can make a difference in your journey at www.soberlink.com/jbd
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| Understanding Men and Women: Why Relationships Break Down—and How Awareness Changes Everything with Alison Armstrong | 05 Mar 2026 | 01:14:47 | |
In this episode of the Journey Beyond Divorce Podcast, Karen McMahon sits down with relationship expert Alison Armstrong to explore how fundamental differences between men and women often fuel misunderstanding, conflict, and disconnection—both in marriage and during divorce. Alison shares powerful insights into how men and women process the world differently, including the concept of single-focus versus diffuse awareness. She explains how testosterone supports a focused, task-oriented state of mind and why many men need transition time after work to shift from problem-solving mode into connection at home—a dynamic that is often misunderstood as distance or indifference. The conversation also dives into how emotional dynamics affect men biologically, why many men need safety and time to access their feelings, and how both men and women frequently misinterpret each other's intentions—confusing hurt with disrespect. Together, Karen and Alison discuss how shifting the questions we ask, assuming positive intent, and stepping out of punishment-based dynamics can dramatically change communication during and after divorce. They also highlight the importance of prioritizing children's wellbeing and creating healthier patterns moving forward. Alison also shares resources from her work, including Lux and The Queen's Code, offering listeners practical tools for building greater understanding and connection. If you've ever wondered why communication between men and women can feel so frustrating—and how to change that dynamic—this episode offers insight, compassion, and a new lens for navigating relationships with greater clarity. Connect with Alison:
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| Secretive vs. Deceptive When Preparing for Divorce | 07 Aug 2024 | 00:09:51 | |
In this episode, we dive into crucial divorce preparation strategies, focusing on how to prepare for separation while maintaining secrecy and integrity. We cover essential steps such as gathering financial documents, consulting with a matrimonial attorney, and setting up new email accounts, post office boxes, and bank accounts to safeguard your privacy.
We also discuss the importance of seeking support from therapists, coaches, and loved ones during this challenging time. Discover why strategic preparation is key to navigating the divorce process smoothly and achieving better outcomes. Learn how to balance secrecy with effective planning to ensure you're ready for the transition ahead. Tune in to gain valuable insights and practical advice for handling this critical phase of divorce with confidence and clarity.
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| Flow vs. Force in Divorce: How to Thrive with Marie-Elizabeth Mali's Miraculous Approach | 04 Aug 2024 | 00:53:38 | |
Today's guest, Marie-Elizabeth Mali is a Mentor and Brain-Trainer for high-achieving women - and she specializes is FLOW! We're invited to reinvent ourselves through challenging transitions like divorce. It's an opportunity for us to examine how we have been thinking and behaving and to let go of what hasn't been working and adopt new ways of thinking and being that better serve us. Episode Highlights:
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| Navigating Narcissism: From Wall St. to Wellness | 23 Jul 2024 | 00:39:09 | |
Join Kristen as she shares her powerful journey from Ivy League success and Wall Street prominence to navigating the complexities of narcissistic abuse and co-parenting.
After stepping away from her career to raise their children, Kristen found herself isolated and facing the challenges of parenting alongside a narcissistic ex-husband. Through this tumultuous period, she rediscovered her self-confidence and learned to accept her ex's behavior as a co-parent.
Now, several years post-divorce, Kristen enjoys her weekends of freedom while her children are with their father. She has built a new social circle and embraced life with a renewed sense of purpose. Kristen's story is one of resilience, growth, and finding joy after overcoming adversity.
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| Rebuilding After Financial Betrayal & Infidelity: Expert Advice for Divorce with Kimberly Rae Nelson, CFA, CDFA | 22 Jul 2024 | 00:45:18 | |
Today, we're delving into a critical topic that affects many: how to protect yourself financially when facing betrayal in your marriage. Episode Highlights:
Guest Spotlight: Kimberly Rae Nelson Kimberly Rae Nelson, CFA, CDFA, is renowned for her expertise in high net worth divorces. With over two decades of experience, Kimberly has been recognized for her achievements, including the 2019 Woman of Achievement Award and being ranked #5 on AdvisorHub's 100 Registered Investment Advisors to Watch List. She specializes in unraveling complex marital finances, offering strategies for empowerment during challenging times.
Thank you for tuning in to today's episode. Remember, understanding your financial rights and having a strategic plan are crucial steps toward securing your future. Join us next time as we continue to explore ways to empower your financial journey.
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| When Your Spouse Shows Up Like A Kid | 16 Jul 2024 | 00:39:37 | |
How do you handle coparenting when your spouse (or soon to be ex) is behaving more like a kid? There may be underlying issues like substance use, neurodiversity or they just may be (much) less responsible than you wish they were.
How do you navigate things like shared custody and lifestyle decisions for your kids, when they just aren't in the same place?
Karen & Diane challenge our listeners to explore their part in the dynamic, and discuss the fine line between having compassion and caretaking (or even co-dependency!) They also will provide some concrete tools to make solid decisions from a place of discernment rather than from fear.
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| Overcoming Emotional Hurdles in Men's Divorce with Master NLP Practitioner & Certified Life Coach, Rachael Sloan | 11 Jul 2024 | 00:59:18 | |
This episode dives deep into the unique struggles men face during divorce, from the pervasive feeling of being unable to protect their children to the profound loss of identity that comes from no longer being seen as the family's provider and protector. Episode Highlights Understanding Men's Unique Challenges During Divorce
Thank you for tuning into this episode. We hope Rachael Sloan's insights have offered you a deeper understanding of the unique challenges men face during divorce and provided you with practical tools for emotional recovery and growth. Remember, seeking support and embracing emotional intelligence are key steps towards healing and finding new paths to happiness.
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| Power Shift: From Imbalance to Empowerment in High-Conflict Divorces with Karen McMahon | 09 Jul 2024 | 00:15:54 | |
Welcome to today's episode of Journey Beyond Divorce, where we delve into crucial insights on navigating high-conflict divorces and marriages. In "Power Shift: From Imbalance to Empowerment in High-Conflict Divorces," we confront the intricate dynamics that can perpetuate challenges in high conflict marriages and the power shift.
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By exploring our own tolerances, tendencies, and triggers, we aim to break the cycle that leads to repeated patterns in relationships, setting the stage for genuine transformation and empowerment. Let's embark on this journey of self-discovery and change together.
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| The Power Trio - Unleashing Strength in Divorce Through Values, Habits, and Behaviors with Shannon McGorry | 06 Jul 2024 | 00:37:39 | |
In the turbulent waters of high-conflict divorce, finding your anchor is essential for staying afloat. In this episode of "The Power Tria," we dive deep into how valuing your values, honoring your habits, and breaking down your behaviors can be the lifebuoy you need during this challenging journey. Discover the profound impact of aligning your actions with your core values. Today's guest will discuss a process of self-discovery, helping you identify what truly matters to you and how to use these values as a compass to navigate even the stormiest seas of divorce. You will also learn how your daily routines and habits can either empower or hinder your progress. And finally, we dive into behavior change and why letting go of destructive behaviors is crucial for your emotional well-being. We discuss actionable steps to break free from behaviors that no longer serve you, helping you reclaim your power and control. With me today is Shannon McGorry, a Certified Professional Coach, specializing in Divorce and Women's Empowerment. She is certified through the Institute for Professional Excellence in Coaching, is a woman of faith, a mom of two daughters, and a lover of yoga, the beach, being outside, and laughter. More ways to connect with Shannon:
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| Tender Talks: Guiding Children Through Divorce Amid Conflict with Dr. David S. Marcus, Ph.D. | 04 Jul 2024 | 01:04:44 | |
Welcome to Tender Talks, where we explore navigating children through divorce amidst conflict. In today's episode, we delve into effective communication strategies with children during divorce. Join us as Dr. David S. Marcus, Ph.D., a renowned Clinical Psychologist with over 40 years of expertise in family therapy and child advocacy, shares essential insights. Discover practical advice on supporting children through this challenging transition and fostering a stable environment. Guest Introduction: Dr. David S. Marcus, Ph.D.
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| Divorce and Shared Living Spaces: Navigating Boundaries | 02 Jul 2024 | 00:19:05 | |
Going through a divorce is a challenging journey, and it becomes even more complex when both parties continue living under the same roof. This episode explores practical strategies for setting boundaries and managing conflicts during this transitional period.
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| From Self-Doubt to Self-Confidence After Betrayal Divorce | Gail's Journey Beyond Divorce | 16 Feb 2026 | 00:43:39 | |
In this powerful Voices of Celebration episode, Gail shares an honest and deeply personal journey from chronic self-doubt to grounded self-confidence. For years, self-doubt shaped how she showed up in her marriage, her divorce, and her relationship with herself. Fear of conflict, second-guessing her decisions, and a lack of self-trust left her feeling small and uncertain about her future. What makes Gail's story especially compelling is not just what she healed — but how she did it. She speaks candidly about how coaching provided something she hadn't found elsewhere: practical strategies, real-time awareness, and tools that changed her behavior, not just her understanding. Instead of revisiting the past, she learned how to engage differently, interrupt old patterns, and rebuild confidence from the inside out. One of the most powerful moments in this conversation is Gail's realization that the outcomes she feared most never came true. Rather than confirming her worst beliefs about herself, divorce became a turning point — a doorway to clarity, self-trust, and a deeper relationship with herself. This episode is a celebration of growth, courage, and the possibility of real change. Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
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| I Found My Truth and Authenticity Through My Divorce | 30 Jun 2024 | 00:39:24 | |
Ann Margaret shares her struggles around faith and family when deciding whether or not to seek a divorce from her spouse of 19 years. As a devout Catholic, she needed to be 'right with God' and sought to understand if and how her desire to leave her marriage was aligned with her deep faith. She goes on to share her concerns for the impact the divorce would have on her children, the challenges of living under the same roof during Covid and keeping the 'secret' of the impending divorce from her kids until the school year ended. Finally, Ann Margaret had a huge fear of being alone and shares the unfolding journey of her dating and relationship life after divorce.
Ann Margaret describes her divorce as amicable and post divorce co parenting relationship as respectful. She offers great wisdom and guidance around the power of coaching and the importance of tuning into and listening to the soft voice of intuition that is there to guide you.
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| Single Mom's Doubling Up: The New Frontier in Post-Divorce Living w/Carmel Boss | 29 Jun 2024 | 00:36:42 | |
In the aftermath of divorce, single parents face daunting challenges, with affordable housing often standing out as one of the most pressing. The financial burden can be overwhelming, compounded by the emotional toll of managing a household alone while striving to provide stability for their children.
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In today's episode, we've explored practical strategies for single parents navigating the challenges of post-divorce life, focusing on affordable housing solutions through innovative co-living arrangements. Discover how these approaches can provide stability, support, and a sense of community for single parents and their children.
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| How I Reclaimed My Sanity, Self Esteem and My Life! | 27 Jun 2024 | 00:33:48 | |
In this episode, we explore the journey of overcoming divorce fears and finding peace post-divorce. Our guest, Elle, shares her personal transformation from fear and overwhelm to a fulfilling life despite co-parenting with a narcissistic ex-partner.
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This episode offers encouragement and actionable insights for anyone navigating divorce and co-parenting challenges. Elle's story is a testament to resilience and the possibility of finding happiness beyond the fear and uncertainty of divorce..
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| Reclaiming Connections: A Guide to Mending the Rifts of Parental Alienation with Ginger Gentile | 19 Jun 2024 | 01:00:33 | |
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| HC Divorce Demystified: Holding the Line: Boundaries in High Conflict Divorce with Dr. Abby Medcalf | 12 Jun 2024 | 01:00:37 | |
Navigating a high conflict divorce requires more than just legal representation; it demands your personal resilience and clear boundaries. As you go through this challenging time, establishing strong, well-defined boundaries is essential. These boundaries will help you manage interactions with your ex, especially in situations fraught with emotional challenges and conflicts. Setting effective boundaries is crucial for maintaining your sanity and emotional well-being, clearly delineating what behaviors are acceptable and what are not. In scenarios where you're faced with explosive conversations, hostile emails, or inappropriate discussions in front of the children, boundaries become your safeguard. They allow you to preemptively set limits on communication styles and topics, ensuring that your interactions remain respectful and constructive. By defining clear consequences for boundary violations, you create an environment where toxic behaviors are less likely to escalate, protecting not only your emotional health but also the well-being of your children. Abby Medcalf, a psychologist, author, podcast host and Tedx speaker with a profound understanding of relationship dynamics, emphasizes the power of boundaries in her book, *Boundaries Made Easy*. With over three decades of experience and a doctorate in psychology, Abby provides insightful, practical advice that can transform challenging relationships into opportunities for growth and cooperation. Abby has been a featured expert on CBS and ABC news, and has been a contributor to the New York Times, Women's Health, Psychology Today, Well+Good and Bustle and is the host of the top-rated "Relationships Made Easy" Podcast now in over 170 countries. More ways to connect with Abby:
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| HC Divorce Demystified: Broken Vows: Facing Sexual Infidelity and Making the Tough Choices with Cheryl Camarillo, LSW | 04 Jun 2024 | 00:42:28 | |
Welcome to an incredibly poignant episode where we delve into the heart-wrenching world of sexual infidelity, and betrayal. Today, we explore not just the pain but the profound decisions that come in its aftermath—whether to mend the bond or part ways. Joined by a renowned infidelity expert, we'll provide you with both professional insights and compassionate advice to navigate these turbulent waters. How do you cope when trust is shattered by infidelity? What steps can you take if you find out your spouse struggles with a sex addiction? This episode is a crucial guide for anyone facing these daunting questions. We'll discuss coping mechanisms, the dynamics of forgiveness and trust, and the complex decisions about your future together or apart. Stay tuned as we embark on this journey towards healing and understanding. Joining us today is Cheryl Camarillo, a licensed clinical social worker with over 30 years of dedicated service in the field of mental health. Since 2018, Cheryl has specialized in sex therapy and addiction, driven by both professional expertise and personal experience. With a deep commitment to her mission, Cheryl focuses on supporting women who are navigating the complexities of sexual addiction. Her passion is fueled by a blend of her extensive knowledge and her own personal journey through similar challenges. More ways to connect with Cheryl:
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| HC Divorce Demystified: Difficult Conversations Around Divorce: Telling Spouse, Kids, Friends and Family with Zach Brittle & Laura Heck | 29 May 2024 | 00:51:11 | |
In today's episode, we are going to navigate through some of the most heart-wrenching conversations that come with the decision of divorce as we delve into the delicate art of communicating about divorce with your spouse and children, as well as your wider circle of family and friends. Broaching the subject of divorce with your spouse is perhaps one of the most profound discussions you will ever have, and it requires a great deal of courage and sensitivity. We'll discuss how to express your feelings honestly while also respecting the emotions of your partner. Then, we will turn our focus to the children. Kids may experience a range of emotions from confusion to fear. We'll equip you with compassionate strategies to help ensure that this transition impacts their well-being as gently as possible, keeping the lines of communication open and honest. Lastly, we'll consider how to communicate your decision to friends and family. This part of the conversation can often bring unexpected reactions, from support to surprise, or even judgment. We'll talk about how to handle various responses and maintain your own emotional balance. It's important to remember that everyone processes this news differently, and while some might offer immediate support, others may need time to adjust to the new reality. Throughout it all, maintaining empathy and understanding for each other's feelings will be key. Joining me today are Zach and Laura, a team of marriage and relationship therapists!. Zach Brittle is a couples therapist in Seattle, where he has been counseling and coaching couples for over a dozen years. He is a best-selling author of The Relationship Alphabet, and the Marriage Therapy Journal. Zach and Laura co-host Marriage Therapy Radio, a podcast where straight talking marriage therapists and their brilliant guests tackle the most common problems every couple experience. Laura Heck is a relationship expert, speaker, Certified Gottman Therapist, Sex Therapist and Master Trainer for The Gottman Seven Principles Program. She and Zach are teaching partners and cohosts of Marriage Therapy Radio. More ways to connect with Laura & Zach:
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| Facing the Unthinkable: When Your Spouse Wants a Divorce...And You Don't | 16 May 2024 | 00:23:43 | |
If the person you pledged to spend your life with has just revealed they want a divorce, you're likely reeling from a whirlwind of emotions. This episode of our podcast delves deep into the heart-wrenching situation of being in a high-conflict marriage where one partner wants out while the other holds on. We understand the profound sense of loss, confusion, and fear that accompanies such news. Here, we'll explore the psychological impact of this revelation, the array of emotions you might experience, and the journey of grief that follows. It's a path fraught with questions and uncertainties, but you're not alone as you navigate this challenging time. First and foremost, it's crucial to understand that no one can dictate your pace through this ordeal—not even your spouse. Dismiss pressures to make hasty decisions about telling the children, hiring an attorney, or anything else. Instead, we encourage seeking immediate support from therapists or coaches who can guide you through this turbulent period. This episode will help you confront and quiet the self-critic within, questioning your role in the marriage's downturn. Many find themselves clinging to the memory of better days, yet through introspection and support, begin to see the realities of their relationship, perhaps recognizing their own contributions to the discord or acknowledging the marriage's long standing issues. What comes next? It's a journey of personal growth and self-examination. We'll discuss how to identify and amend behaviors that may not serve your marriage or personal well-being, such as self-condemnation, conflict avoidance, and codependency. Whether you're questioning the health of your relationship or searching for a way to reclaim your sense of self, we provide resources to aid you. From our free quiz assessing your marriage's health to courses designed to help you rediscover your identity and navigate potential divorce with wisdom, this episode offers a beacon of hope and direction. Join us as we explore these steps toward healing and self-empowerment, regardless of your marriage's future. Journey Beyond Divorce Resources mentioned in this episode:
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| HC Divorce Demystified: Divorcing a Narcissist: Mastering The Emotional Rollercoaster with Tracy Malone | 14 May 2024 | 00:56:03 | |
We're diving into a topic that many of you are eager to learn about. Now, imagine being on a rollercoaster, not just any rollercoaster, but one where the ups are few and the downs are many, and often quite triggering. That's a bit what it feels like. When you're divorcing a narcissist, it's not just about legal battles; it's an emotional journey where the usual playbook doesn't always apply. The biggest challenges often come from the constant unpredictability and the emotional manipulation involved. Narcissists will often use tactics like gaslighting, where they make you question your own reality and sanity, or stone-walling, where they shut down communication to throw you off. Today, we are looking at what you can do if you're in this situation? We'll be discussing strategies that include, gathering your support system, the importance of documentation, and how to stay as calm, as reacting emotionally only feeds into the narcissist's love of chaos and conflict. And perhaps most importantly, prioritizing your own emotional and physical well-being. Divorcing a narcissist is not just about winning a legal battle; it's about reclaiming your mind, your peace and your life. With me today is Tracy A. Malone, an acclaimed international coach specializing in working with people who are dealing with narcissistic abuse. Tracy is the founder of NarcissistAbuseSupport.com, a global platform to support survivors of narcissistic abuse. Tracy has been a powerful ally for those dealing with narcissistic relationships for almost 10 years. More ways to connect with Tracy:
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| Voices of Celebration: Reflections 8 Years Post Divorce with Clint Powell | 10 May 2024 | 00:49:31 | |
8 years ago, Clint reached out after listening to a JBD podcast. His wife had just told him she wanted a divorce. He was reeling in all types of grief, unbelief, fear and uncertainty. He enrolled in a coaching program and began the hard work of looking at his marriage and himself. Clint explains that doing his divorce poorly would hurt everyone, his kids, his STBX and himself. He wanted to be better and worked with both a therapist and divorce coach. Fast forward 8 years. His tween and teen kids are emerging adults, and he is proud of the job he did both parenting and coparenting. We talk about lessons learned, forgotten and learned again and how learning something and practicing and experiencing it are two very different things. We explore how when our family life changes, our career, or in his case his business change as well. Tune in for a dialogue on navigating divorce courageously, how to be a healthy man and raise healthy kids and other interesting stuff. More ways to connect with Clint and listen to his podcasts: Journey Beyond Divorce Resources mentioned in this episode:
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| Masculine and Feminine Energy: The Hidden Drivers Behind Divorce Choices with Shana James, Relationship Coach | 10 Feb 2026 | 00:44:34 | |
In this episode of the Journey Beyond Divorce Podcast, host Karen McMahon and guest Shana James explore the complex dynamics of masculine and feminine energies during the divorce process. They discuss how imbalances in these energies can sabotage divorce decisions and offer frameworks to help listeners reclaim their power. Shana shares her expertise from 20 years of studying trust, connection, and emotional safety between men and women, diving deep into how these energies manifest in everyday situations. This discussion offers insightful guidance on how to identify and balance these energies to improve confidence, boundaries, parenting, and future relationships. Whether you're currently navigating a divorce or seeking ways to enhance future relationships, this episode provides valuable insights and practical advice. Connect with Shana:
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| HC Divorce Demystified: Child Advocacy: The Guardian ad Litem Journey with Your Kids with Elle Barr | 08 May 2024 | 00:46:51 | |
In the turbulent seas of high-conflict custody battles and family disputes, a Guardian ad Litem (GAL) serves as a lighthouse, guiding decisions in the best interest of the children involved. It's crucial to understand when a GAL is needed, and what their role is. More ways to connect with Elle:
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| HC Divorce Demysitifed: Breaking the News: Strategies for Discussing Divorce with Your Kids with Christina McGee, MSW | 01 May 2024 | 00:52:25 | |
Telling your kids and you're getting a divorce is scary and hard. The world as they know it is about to forever change and feel like it is falling apart. In many cases regardless of the conflict between the parents, they can rally for the sake of the kids. In deeply high conflict situations, this isn't always possible. So when do you tell, what do you tell, do you tell all the kids together, and how do you determine if you should tell them with your soon to be ex or by yourself. My golden rule is you always do what is best for the kids, not what's best for you or your spouse. Today we get to hear guidance, advice and wisdom from one of the top experts in the field!! Christina McGhee is a divorce-parenting expert AND coach with 20+ years of experience, Christina is passionate about providing parents and professionals with information that helps keep the focus where it belongs – on kids. She is the author of the highly acclaimed book, Parenting Apart: How separated and divorced parents can raise happy and secure kids and the creator of a Co-Parenting Specialist Certification Training Program for divorce professionals. As a child of divorce and a bonus mom (aka stepmom), Christina has had lots of opportunities to practice what she preaches. Together she and her husband have four "adultish" children (2 bonus, 2 bio) and live outside of Houston, Texas, with three rescue dogs, several cats, and a ridiculous number of chickens.
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| Should You Mend or End a Dysfunctional, Toxic or Abusive Marriage | 26 Apr 2024 | 00:22:32 | |
In this heart-stirring episode of "Mend or End," we dive deep into the crossroads of decision that many find themselves standing at, teetering on the edge of staying in or leaving an unhealthy marriage. Karen's journey is one that resonates with the silent battles many face: the weight of religious or marital commitments that bind, the daunting financial fears of navigating life solo, and the complex web of fears surrounding the well-being and future of their children. It's a narrative wrapped in the struggle between the hope of change and the reality of delusion, between the known hardships and the foreign, overwhelming prospects of divorce. Karen's solo episode is not just a story; it's an exploration of the internal conflicts that plague those considering the immense step of ending a relationship. It addresses the all-too-common fear of being unable to make it alone and the paralyzing effect of having been bullied into a state of self-distrust. Furthermore, it confronts the intricacies of parental concerns—from the fear of hurting the kids with conflict, losing precious time with them, to the financial anxieties tied to their future education. Through Karen's eyes, we explore how the quest for personal health and well-being could indeed be the ultimate form of protection and support for one's children, challenging the listener to weigh the pros and cons of mend or end. Journey Beyond Divorce Resources mentioned in this episode:
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| HC Divorce Demystified: Affluence and Adversity: Financial Intricacies At The Crossroads of High Conflict and High Net Worth Divorce with Patrick Kilbane, CDFA | 23 Apr 2024 | 00:52:45 | |
Navigating a high conflict, high net worth divorce is exceptionally challenging, blending intricate financial issues with intense emotional tensions. The stakes are high with substantial assets in play, demanding informed and strategic planning to ensure your financial stability after the divorce. A Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA) can be your ally, offering insights to bridge the gap between the divorce's financial and legal complexities. They do more than crunch numbers; they provide an analysis aimed at long-term sustainability, guiding you through the economic implications of your settlement. As you gear up to negotiate, remember the importance of a clear-headed, informed strategy. Understanding the real value of your assets, including liquidity and tax implications, is crucial. By making decisions informed by logic rather than emotion, you're better positioned for a future that's both financially secure and emotionally fulfilling. With me today is Patrick Kilbane of Ullmann Wealth Partners, located in Jacksonville FL. He brings both a wealth of family law experience along with his Certified Divorce Financial Analyst designation to this conversation. Pat serves as a wealth advisors with over a decade of experience in helping clients coordinate their wealth management plans. He is also the Director of Ullmann Wealth Partner's Divorce Advisory Group where he assists, guides, and supports clients before, during, and after their divorce with a special focus on helping high-net-worth clients make wise financial decisions throughout the divorce process. More ways to connect with Patrick:
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| JBD Team Talks: Communicating with Mastery During High Conflict Divorce | 18 Apr 2024 | 00:38:17 | |
The way we communicate will make or break our divorce. It will move us closer to what we desire or farther away. It will invite curiosity and compromise or judgement and destruction. In order to be able to communicate with mastery, we need to first be aware of our triggers and ways of behaving under stress. We also need to be able to read other people, their mood, body language and tone. When we combine these skills with clear communication, we are on the right path. With me today is Lisa Brick, JBD Partner and Divorce Coach and Carrie Doubts, JBD Divorce Coach. Together we discuss tips and strategies to communicate with mastery. Journey Beyond Divorce Resources mentioned in this episode:
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| HC Divorce Demystified: Exploring the Intersection of High Conflict and High Net Worth Divorce with Susan Myres | 16 Apr 2024 | 00:57:47 | |
In this episode, we delve into the intricate dynamics of divorce proceedings at the crossroads of high conflict and high net worth. Marriages unraveling in such scenarios face a myriad of challenges, from navigating complex financial landscapes to the heightened emotional intensity that often accompanies disputes over substantial assets. As the stakes escalate with greater financial resources at play, so too does the potential for drawn out courtroom battles, where each party may wield significant financial ammunition to leverage their position. Amidst these legal battles, the welfare of children can be profoundly impacted, as extended litigation periods pose heightened risks and uncertainties, inviting additional chaos and contention. In this episode we underscore the urgent need for effective resolution strategies that prioritize the well-being of all involved. With me today is Susan Myres, a matrimonial attorney and certified Family Law Specialist, Susan has been practicing family law in the Houston area since 1982 forming her own firm, Myres & Associates, in 2011. She's been named to the annual list of Texas Super Lawyers since 2006 and is a past president of the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers (AAML). There are a lot of family law attorneys out there. I was particularly drawn to Susan for this podcast episode. Over the course of her career Susan has developed a keen interest in mental health, psychology, and the dynamics of interpersonal relationships and she approaches clients as if she were an aunt or a big sister. She has often said, "This is not my money. These are not my children. This is not my life. I will give you my advice as I would as a trusted sister or aunt, but the final decisions have to be yours. So let's dive in and benefit from her pearls of wisdom!! More ways to connect with Susan:
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| Voices of Celebration: How Divorce Taught This Woman to Set Boundaries and Trust Herself | 12 Apr 2024 | 00:38:29 | |
Stephanie faced infidelity and broken trust during her marriage. As she began coaching, she realized her patterns and part in the disillusion of her marriage. Her work led her to healthier communication and behaviors in all her relationships. Listen as she shares her fears, struggles and the unexpected treasures found through coaching and leaning into her faith in God. Journey Beyond Divorce Resources mentioned in this episode:
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| HC Divorce Demystified: Shifting the Dynamic between You and Your High Conflict Spouse with Dr. Thomas Jordan, Ph.D. | 10 Apr 2024 | 00:54:02 | |
Welcome to today's episode, where we delve into the profound impact family origins have on adult intimate relationships. We'll explore how the imprints of our family dynamics shape our approach to love, conflict, and connection, setting the stage for the patterns that unfold in our most intimate bonds. With insights from a seasoned psychologist and love life researcher, we aim to illuminate the unseen threads that link our past experiences to our present struggles, providing a roadmap for understanding and transformation. In this enlightening discussion, we invite you to recognize and learn from the patterns inherited from your family of origin. By examining these influences, we offer strategies to shift the dynamic with your high conflict person and lay the groundwork for healthier future relationships. Whether you're in the midst of a high conflict divorce or seeking to break the cycle of discord in your love life, this episode promises valuable insights and practical advice to navigate the journey toward healing and healthier relational dynamics. With me today is Dr. Thomas Jordan, a clinical psychologist, psychoanalyst, and love life researcher based in New York City. He is on the faculty of NYU's Postdoctoral Program in Psychoanalysis, author of Learn to Love: Guide to Healing Your Disappointing Love Life and founder of LoveLifeLearningCenter.com. Dr. Jordan specializes in the psychological treatment of disappointing love lives and has been studying them for over 30 years. More ways to connect with Dr. Thomas Jordan:
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| Your Support Team & Exploring Therapy vs. Coaching in High Conflict Divorce | 05 Apr 2024 | 00:20:12 | |
Emerging from a high-conflict marriage can feel like stepping onto a battlefield, where every day presents new challenges and uncertainties. In these tumultuous times, the need for support is undeniable - but what form of support is best suited to your needs? Journey Beyond Divorce Resources mentioned in this episode:
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| HC Divorce Demystified: Diffuse Tension and Resolve Conflict During High Conflict Divorce with Hesha Abrams | 20 Mar 2024 | 00:46:55 | |
I am thrilled about today's conversation with Hesha Abrams, a brilliant mediator, negotiator and author of Holding The Calm, a book jam packed with strategies to minimize conflict, settle disputes and create a safe space for the most thorniest of individuals to feel heard and seen so they can find their way back to the negotiation table. I've asked Hesha to join us and custom tailor some of her advice to our JBD listeners who have made the courageous decision to leave your high conflict spouse and now after being bullied and intimidated by them, develop the skills needed to navigate your divorce conversations, & negotiations skillfully and successfully. You don't want to miss this one!! Hesha Abrams is an internationally acclaimed master attorney, mediator, negotiator, and deal-maker who, for 30+ years, has been renowned for her success in resolving high profile or difficult matters, including mediating the case over the secret recipe for Pepsi. She has worked with Apple, Google, Amazon, Facebook, IBM, Verizon, and other large multinational companies, as well as individuals, inventors, and small businesses, creating deals and solving disputes. She has distilled her experience into a popular new book, "Holding the Calm: The Secret to Resolving Conflict and Defusing Tension", an insightful, practical, and easy to use toolkit to guide anyone to defuse tension, eliminate conflict, and make deals in their own lives. More ways to connect with Hesha:
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| Narcissist vs. Abuser: When the Dynamics Mirror Each Other and does the Difference Matter? with Licensed Psychotherapist, Chelsey Brooke Cole | 03 Feb 2026 | 00:57:53 | |
When you're in a high-conflict divorce, the behaviors often feel indistinguishable. Gaslighting. Manipulation. Control. Chaos. Emotional whiplash. It's why so many people fixate on one question: Is my spouse a narcissist? In this episode, I'm joined by licensed psychotherapist and narcissistic abuse expert Chelsey Brooke Cole to explore a deeper truth—when the impact on you feels the same, does the label actually matter? We unpack what narcissistic abuse truly is, how it overlaps with other forms of emotional and psychological abuse, and why abusers and narcissists often behave in nearly identical ways during divorce. Especially when they're losing control. Especially when the legal process becomes another tool for domination, punishment, and destabilization. This conversation is not about diagnosing your ex. It's about understanding patterns so you can stop internalizing blame, stop doubting your reality, and stop negotiating from fear. We talk about the internal experience of these dynamics—the fog, the shame, the fragmentation, the nervous system overload—and how those symptoms affect your ability to think clearly, make decisions, and advocate for yourself and your children. Most importantly, we focus on what actually helps. How to protect yourself emotionally and strategically during a high-conflict divorce. How to anticipate predictable escalations. How to step out of reactivity and into steadiness. And how to begin rebuilding your sense of identity, self-worth, and agency after prolonged psychological control. If you're divorcing someone who feels impossible, unpredictable, or emotionally dangerous, this episode offers clarity, validation, and a path forward rooted in reality—not labels. Chelsey Brooke Cole is a licensed psychotherapist, certified partner trauma therapist, bestselling author of If Only I'd Known!, and a nationally recognized expert in narcissistic abuse and complex trauma. She has been featured in USA Today, Psychology Today, HuffPost, WKRN News 2, and FOX 26 Houston, and supports thousands of survivors through her clinical work, education, and trauma-informed programs. This episode is for anyone navigating a high-conflict divorce who needs to understand what's happening, why it's so destabilizing, and how to move forward without losing themselves in the process. Connect with Chelsey:
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| How to Create A Safe Exit Plan | 18 Mar 2024 | 00:25:19 | |
How to Safely Plan Your Exit Strategy As a High Conflict Divorce Strategist, I will be speaking directly to and about just that - the high conflict dynamic and how it is so very different from your typical divorce. All divorce has conflict and some more than others. High Conflict marriages and divorce are in a realm of their own. So let's start at the beginning… In the early stages, knowing on a deep intuitive level and being ready takes time. Being ready and yet not being able to take action makes sense. After living in chaos and conflict, boldly making complex decision can feel impossible…this is normal. Before you can tell your spouse you've decided to leave the marriage, it is vital to develop a foundation of self trust, mental clarity and the ability to manage your emotional reaction. Then there are a lot of baby steps: what you say, when you say it, how you prepare to say it, what you do afterward, how you handle the kids and so on. This just scratches the surface…Which is why I have created Divorce 101, a smart start to enter your divorce on solid footing. Journey Beyond Divorce Resources mentioned in this episode:
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| HC Divorce Demystified: Navigating the Storm: The Psychological Battlefield of Divorcing a Sociopath or Narcissist with Kerrie Droban-Zhivago | 12 Mar 2024 | 00:52:58 | |
I'm excited to share today's conversation with you as my guest, Kerrie Droban-Zhivago, offers profound insights into the minds of sociopaths, psychopaths, and narcissists. For those of you undergoing high-conflict divorces, understanding these characteristics is crucial. As you know, these personalities can significantly impact the emotional and psychological well-being of their partners, often leading to highly contentious divorce proceedings. By educating oneself on the traits and tactics of these individuals, you will be able to better navigate the complexities of your circumstances. This knowledge empowers you to make informed decisions, establish boundaries, and pursue a path to healing and recovery. Kerrie's insights provide a roadmap for identifying these personality types and implementing strategies to protect oneself from their debilitating effects. Today's guest, Kerrie Droban-Zhivago, is an award-winning, critically acclaimed true crime author, accomplished criminal and matrimonial attorney and television journalist. She is an expert on criminal pathology, narcissistic personality disorder, and sociopathy and has a fascinating story of how she developed her expertise. More ways to connect with Kerrie:
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| Voices of Celebration: I'm Healing From Regret, Resentment and Codependence and Living My Best Life! | 08 Mar 2024 | 00:45:53 | |
When Maria reached out for support she was still resentful at her ex and regretting staying so long in a marriage that had been over for 2 years. Maria shares her journey to self awareness and acceptance of herself and her circumstances. In a short time, Maria developed an understanding of codependence and began shifting her behavior to more self loving and less fearful about what other's thought about her. Maria also shares her 'hot pepper moment' and the powerful impact our signature Emotional Energy tool had on both her healing and her new romantic relationship. Journey Beyond Divorce Resources mentioned in this episode:
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