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Interdependence
Holly Herndon, Mat Dryhurst
Frequency: 1 episode/13d. Total Eps: 97

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Myths and Machine Learning with Marianna Simnett
Episode 97
dimanche 10 septembre 2023 • Duration 55:43
In advance of the premiere of her new AI fueled gesamtkunstwerk “Gorgon”, the artist Marianna Simnett joins us to dive into mythology, mimicry and the saga of convincing tools to do what you want them to!
“Gorgon” (commissioned by LAS) will take place at HAU Berlin from the 13-17th September
https://www.las-art.foundation/programme/gorgon
Follow Marianna Simnett: https://www.instagram.com/mariannasimnett/
Collect OGRESS on Foundation: https://foundation.app/collection/ogress
The floor is moving with Shawn Reynaldo
Episode 98
mardi 29 août 2023 • Duration 01:42:28
Over the past two decades Shawn Reynaldo has operated in every corner of electronic music. His substack "First Floor", recently anthologized into his debut book, offers a refreshingly candid account of his feelings about the turbulent state of a culture in transition.
We dive into some of the choice essays from his book, reflect on some major shifts of the last decade, and attempt a COVID post mortem.
See Shawn on tour: https://thevinylfactory.com/news/first-floor-shawn-reynaldo/
Buy and read First Floor Volume 1: https://velocitypress.uk/product/first-floor-volume-1/
Sub to the First Floor Substack: https://firstfloor.substack.com/
Follow Shawn: https://twitter.com/ShawnReynaldo
Covid space travel and AI rabbit holes with Andy Turner (Plaid) and Emma Catnip
Episode 88
mercredi 23 novembre 2022 • Duration 01:14:17
A great joy to host Andy Turner and Emma Catnip to discuss their work in celebration of the release of Plaid's latest album Feorm Falorx. We discuss their intergalactic space travel over the covid lockdown, our mutual rabbit-holing over the latest AI tools and techniques, and the situation for touring artists as they prepare to take the record on the road.
Experience Feorm Falorx, the album and graphic novel: https://plaid.warp.net/
See Plaid on tour soon: https://ra.co/dj/plaid/tour-dates
Follow Andy Turner: https://twitter.com/chimpandy
Follow Emma Catnip's work: https://linktr.ee/emmacatnip
Other intelligences and prepping for utopia with James Bridle
Episode 87
jeudi 10 novembre 2022 • Duration 01:04:20
Hi everyone! Back in the saddle after an enforced little break prompted by a peculiar cluster of medical scare, pregnancy and founding a new organization. What a wild year.
Thrilled to host James Bridle to discuss his recent book on ecologies of non-human intelligence "Ways of Being", animal sensing and co-operation, deliberative democracy, the singing origins of language, cybernetics, and a great deal more. Few have such an encyclopedic and generous grasp of this field and it was a real treat.
Have a sweet week 🦾
Read "Ways of Being": https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/317823/ways-of-being-by-bridle-james/9780241469651
Order the audiobook of "Ways of Being" read by James himself! https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250856111/waysofbeing
Read "The New Dark Age": https://www.versobooks.com/books/3002-new-dark-age
Follow James: https://twitter.com/jamesbridle
Is A.I. good or bad for art? With The Culture Journalist
Episode 86
mardi 25 octobre 2022 • Duration 01:14:11
Mat joined our friends Emilie & Andrea at The Culture Journalist to cover a brief history of the current wave of AI art, why artist replacement narratives can veer on the absurd, and the work we are doing launching our new organization Spawning.
Read and subscribe to the Culture Journalist: https://theculturejournalist.substack.com/
See if you feature in AI training models, and opt out or opt in: https://haveibeentrained.com/
Gamer Wagnerism and dog operas with David Kanaga
Episode 85
vendredi 14 octobre 2022 • Duration 01:07:18
A real joy to welcome one of our favorites David Kanaga, the composer and game designer behind Soft Valkyrie, a recent opera starring Stephen Fry and Attila Csihar, the dog opera Oἶκoςpiel and more. We discuss gaming and modern composition and the fascinating villainy of Wagner.
Listen to Soft Valkyrie: https://davidkanaga.bandcamp.com/album/soft-valkyrie-first-day-from-the-ring-of-the-nibelung-directors-cut
Follow David: https://twitter.com/dkanaga
Play Oikospiel: http://www.oikospiel.com/
David's music: https://davidkanaga.bandcamp.com/
Post-Individualism, Metalabels and Web 3 with Yancey Strickler
Episode 84
mardi 27 septembre 2022 • Duration 01:27:46
A joy to welcome Yancey Stickler to discuss his idea of Post-Individualism and his new project Metalabel. We also get into his prior work founding Kickstarter, its parallels to web 3, and new proposals to fund artistic scenes.
Metalabel: https://www.metalabel.xyz/
Follow Yancey: https://twitter.com/ystrickler
Read Yancey's great blog: https://www.ystrickler.com/writing
Co-creating new music economies with Tim Exile (Endlesss)
Episode 83
mardi 13 septembre 2022 • Duration 01:56:20
Such a joy to have on virtuosic musician and instrument builder Tim Exile to discuss his collaborative online musical ecosystem Endlesss, the uneasy state of contemporary music, new folk traditions and what piqued his interest in web 3.
Follow Tim: https://twitter.com/timexile
Endlesss: https://endlesss.fm/
Tim's music: https://warp.net/artists/91285-tim-exile/info
The state of streaming, crypto and perpetual musical nostalgia with David Turner (Penny Fractions)
Episode 82
mercredi 31 août 2022 • Duration 01:35:12
David Turner shares some of the most insightful and thorough analyses on the music industry through his Penny Fractions newsletter.
We link up to discuss the current state of streaming, his skepticism about much of crypto, and his positive perspective on the regular recycling of the 20th century in popular culture.
Sub to Penny Fractions: https://pennyfractions.ghost.io/
Follow Penny Fractions: https://twitter.com/pennyfractions
Inhuman Intelligence with Anil Bawa-Cavia
Episode 81
jeudi 18 août 2022 • Duration 02:01:58
Anil is one of our favorite thinkers on AI. To celebrate the advent of Anil's debut book "Logiciel: Six Seminars on Computational Reason", we try and pick apart some high level concepts on reason and computation, and discuss why recent deep learning breakthroughs may require a break from traditional conceptions of what we consider to be intelligence.
Follow Anil: https://twitter.com/cavvia
The Inclosure of Reason: https://technosphere-magazine.hkw.de/p/The-Inclosure-of-Reason-ecTsvnENeC1GXtmgRNaMH9