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From UK Police Intelligence to academia: Support versus specialist - Interview with Nadia Tuominen (S2E2)
Season 2 · Episode 2
Wednesday, February 25, 2026 • Duration 01:18:26
Summary
Listen to Nadia Tuominen's path from crime science student to intelligence analyst in London’s Metropolitan Police, where she learned mostly on the job in a changing organization. She explains how austerity and lack of development pushed her to leave for sports integrity in tennis, then into the financial sector to work on economic crime. A later shift into academia and training lets her “close the circle” by teaching police officers and practitioners, creating qualifications she wishes had existed earlier. Across her journey, she emphasizes intelligence as a reasoning process, the importance of frameworks, elevating analysts from “support staff” to specialists, and helping people think better rather than just learn tools. Nadia emphasizes the need for analysts to be proactive, build relationships, and continuously develop their skills to adapt to the changing landscape of intelligence work.
Key takeaways
Intelligence is a reasoning process for decision-making, not magic or perfect prediction.
Definitions of intelligence should fit each organization’s mission and context, rather than chasing one universal formula.
Frameworks like the UK National Intelligence Model, though imperfect, become clearly valuable once you work in less-structured private-sector environments.
Analysts should be treated as specialists, not generic “support staff,” to improve respect, pay, and decision quality.
Training should focus on how analysts think (cognition, self-awareness, bias) as much as on tools and structured techniques.
Biases are unavoidable and not inherently bad; the aim is to understand and manage them, not pretend they can be removed.
Many law enforcement analysts lack formal, portable qualifications, so building accessible, practice-based education helps careers and professionalizes the field.
Resources and references mentioned
NIM https://library.college.police.uk/docs/npia/NIM-Code-of-Practice.pdf
02:59 Journey into Intelligence and Law Enforcement
05:56 Training and Development in Intelligence Analysis
09:12 Transitioning from Law Enforcement to Sports Integrity
12:07 Understanding Intelligence Frameworks
14:51 Exploring Financial Crime and Economic Crime
17:49 The Role of Academia in Intelligence Analysis
20:51 Training and Cognitive Function in Intelligence
23:59 Defining Intelligence: Perspectives and Processes
27:10 The Importance of Forward-Looking Intelligence
29:57 Analysts as Specialists, Not Support Staff
37:13 The Role of Analysts in Decision Making
38:25 Understanding AI and Its Implications
40:30 Critical Thinking in AI Usage
42:35 Explainability and Trust in AI
44:22 Evaluating AI vs Human Intelligence
46:24 The Importance of Input in AI
48:28Training and Experience in Intelligence Analysis
55:33 Measuring the Value of Intelligence
01:01:05 The Dialogue of Intelligence
01:04:17 The Future of AI in Intelligence
01:12:10 Preparing for a Career in Intelligence
Lessons from a Former NCIS Analyst: Navigating Cyber Threats and board rooms - Interview with Teresa Walsh (S2E1)
Season 2 · Episode 1
Wednesday, February 25, 2026 • Duration 01:33:15
Summary
Here, Teresa Walsh, a former NCIS analyst and current Chief Intelligence Officer (CINO), shares how intelligence tradecraft, critical thinking, and stakeholder-focused analysis must underpin cyber threat intelligence in an AI-saturated world, especially in heavily regulated sectors like finance.
She discusses the importance of understanding the audience in intelligence work, the challenges of transitioning from government to private sector, and the evolving role of AI in the field.
Teresa emphasizes the need for critical thinking, continuous training, and the significance of stakeholder engagement in delivering valuable intelligence. The conversation also touches on the future of intelligence, the impact of AI, and the importance of measuring success and value in intelligence work.
Key takeaways
Intelligence is a profession, not a personality trait
Raw data is not intelligence
Audience and purpose drive value
Private-sector CTI lacks role and training standards
Finance is mature because it’s regulated, not smarter
Effective CTI blends technical and strategic skills
AI and LLMs are tools, not replacements
Beware “AI solves everything” thinking
Metrics must go beyond counts
Curiosity, humility, and feedback fuel growth
Resources and references mentioned
Structured Analytic Techniques (SAT) book - https://www.amazon.com/Structured-Analytic-Techniques-Intelligence-Analysis/dp/150636893X
Feedly - https://feedly.com/
IAP Training - https://inteltradecraft.com/sat-certifications
SANS Talk: The Way to a Stakeholder’s Heart is by Providing Value: Measuring Success of Your CTI Program - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5agsRg6-L4o
Metrics by Gert-Jan - https://github.com/gertjanbruggink/metrics
From Collections Manager in the FBI to Teaching Analytic Tradecraft: Analytic Skills versus Cyber Skills - Interview with Elizabeth Dos Santos (S1E7)
Season 1 · Episode 7
Sunday, December 21, 2025 • Duration 01:31:52
Summary
In this podcast episode, Elizabeth Dos Santos shares her journey from a 25-year career in the FBI, focusing on intelligence analysis and counter-terrorism, to the private sector, teaching intelligence.
She discusses the challenges she faced, the importance of communication skills, and her transition to the private sector. Elizabeth emphasizes the role of AI in intelligence, the need for critical thinking, and the significance of structured analytic techniques in training.
She also provides valuable advice for aspiring intelligence analysts, highlighting the importance of writing and presentation skills.
Takeaways
Elizabeth Dos Santos has a rich background in intelligence, having worked for the FBI for nearly 25 years.
Her journey into intelligence began through a suggestion from her father.
She emphasizes the importance of communication skills in intelligence analysis.
Elizabeth shares her transition from government to private sector work and the cultural differences.
She highlights the importance of structured analytic techniques in training and analysis is emphasized.
Elizabeth advises aspiring analysts to focus on writing and presentation skills.
The conversation touches on the need for transparency in AI and the importance of critical thinking.
AI presents both opportunities and challenges in the field of intelligence.
Resources and references mentioned
The Psychology of Intelligence Book - https://www.cia.gov/resources/csi/books-monographs/psychology-of-intelligence-analysis-2/
The Six Thinking Hats Book - https://www.amazon.com/Six-Thinking-Hats-Edward-Bono/dp/0241257530
From Manual Googling to Sophisticated Insight: Government Lessons for the Private Sector - Interview with Terry Pattar (S1E6)
Season 1 · Episode 6
Wednesday, December 3, 2025 • Duration 01:02:42
Summary
In this conversation, Terry shares his journey from government intelligence to the private sector, discussing the evolution of training and methodologies in intelligence analysis. He emphasizes the importance of structured analytical techniques and the challenges faced in adapting these methods in the private sector. The discussion also touches on the impact of geopolitics on cyber threats and the role of AI in intelligence work, highlighting the need for critical thinking and planning in the analysis process. Terry reflects on the differences between open source intelligence and open source information, and the importance of understanding biases in AI tools.
Takeaways
Terry is a senior director for customer success at Atreides.
He has a mixed career in both government and private sectors.
Training in intelligence has evolved significantly over the years.
Open source intelligence became more prominent after 2008.
Structured analytical techniques are crucial for effective analysis.
Planning is essential before diving into information collection.
The maturity of intelligence practices varies between sectors.
Intelligence agencies are starting to crowdsource information and recruits! For example, the MI6 platform, Silent Courier: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-dark-web-portal-launched-to-recruit-spies-to-support-uk-security
CTI Analysis, Co-Authoring a SANS course, and Building a vibrant CTI sharing community - Interview with Will Thomas (S1E5)
Season 1 · Episode 5
Wednesday, November 26, 2025 • Duration 55:09
In this conversation, Freddy and Will delve into the world of Cyber Threat Intelligence (CTI) and sharing communities, exploring of Will T, the journey of a cybersecurity professional, the importance of training and community, the challenges faced in threat reporting, and the impact of AI on the field.
They discuss the evolution of CTI, the necessity for critical thinking, and the ethical considerations surrounding the use of AI in intelligence work. The conversation emphasizes the need for collaboration and knowledge sharing within the cybersecurity community to enhance overall effectiveness against cyber threats.
Takeaways
The importance of foundational knowledge in cybersecurity.
Real-world experience is crucial for developing analytical skills.
Training can significantly enhance an analyst's capabilities.
Community support is vital for sharing knowledge and resources.
AI can assist in summarizing and analyzing data but has limitations.
Ethical considerations are paramount when using AI in intelligence.
Critical thinking is essential in evaluating threat reports.
Transparency in threat reporting builds trust with stakeholders.
Continuous learning and adaptation are necessary in cybersecurity.
Collaboration within the community can lead to better threat mitigation.
Resources & References Mentioned
Rob M. Lee - https://www.dragos.com/team/robert-m-lee/
SANS FOR578: https://www.sans.org/cyber-security-courses/cyber-threat-intelligence/
SANS FOR589: https://www.sans.org/cyber-security-courses/cybercrime-investigations/
From the CIA to inspiring global intelligence communities - Interview with Kathy Pherson (S1E4)
Season 1 · Episode 4
Wednesday, November 26, 2025 • Duration 01:46:14
Step inside the real world of intelligence with Kathy Pherson, a pioneering CIA analyst whose career arc spans from a curious Kansas City upbringing to the highest levels of global intelligence.
In this episode, Kathy reveals how she navigated the challenges of intelligence writing, honed her craft in security and Latin American analysis, and ultimately transformed the field with innovative structured analytic techniques.Kathy has candid reflections on balancing data and practical countermeasures, adapting to the evolving demands of intelligence, and the crucial role of critical thinking in a world increasingly shaped by AI.
Learn how Kathy’s work at the White House, her leadership of Pherson Associates, and her presidency at the International Association for Intelligence Education are shaping future intelligence professionals.
With stories of teamwork, adaptation, and even a personal mission to fight rare diseases, this conversation promises to intrigue, inspire, and challenge your ideas about intelligence analysis, education, and the intersection with advanced technologies.
Takeaways
Kathy Pherson's journey began with a love for language and led her to a career in intelligence.
She learned the importance of writing clearly for policymakers. Writing skills are crucial in intelligence analysis, especially for conveying complex information succinctly.
Understanding the audience and decision-making is key to effective communication in intelligence.
Kathy emphasizes the need for adaptability in intelligence work because the evolution of intelligence practices requires ongoing learning.
Resources and References Mentioned
Vassar College - https://www.vassar.edu/
Critical Thinking book - https://www.amazon.com/Critical-Thinking-Strategic-Intelligence-Katherine/dp/1544374267
From Cargo Theft to Cyber Threats: An Intelligence Journey - Interview with Scott Small (S1E3)
Season 1 · Episode 3
Sunday, September 28, 2025 • Duration 01:17:28
In this conversation, Scott Small, Director of Cyber Threat Intelligence at Tidal Cyber, shares his journey into the field of CTI, discussing his background, current responsibilities, and the importance of curiosity and empathy in intelligence analysis.
He emphasizes the role of AI and open-source intelligence in enhancing threat detection and response, while also addressing the challenges of implementing threat-informed defense strategies. The discussion highlights stakeholder engagement, the value of writing in intelligence, and the need for continuous learning and networking within the cybersecurity community.
Takeaways
Curiosity is essential for success in intelligence analysis.
Writing helps clarify thoughts and improve analytical skills.
AI is transforming the landscape of cybersecurity and threat intelligence.
Stakeholder engagement is crucial for effective intelligence sharing.
Open-source intelligence provides valuable insights for threat analysis.
Empathy allows analysts to understand diverse perspectives in intelligence.
Structured analytic techniques enhance the quality of intelligence analysis.
Networking within the cybersecurity community fosters collaboration and learning.
Trustworthy sources are vital for accurate intelligence gathering.
Incident-driven intelligence can lead to proactive security measures.
Resources references mentioned
Tidal Cyber web site - https://www.tidalcyber.com/
What are TTPs - https://csrc.nist.gov/glossary/term/tactics_techniques_and_procedures
my GitHub - https://github.com/Errum/IntelArchitectureMap
Katie Nickels - CTI study plan 1 - https://medium.com/katies-five-cents/a-cyber-threat-intelligence-self-study-plan-part-1-968b5a8daf9a
Storytelling, Stakeholders, and Communicating CTI to the Board - Interview with Gert-Jan Bruggink (S1E2)
Season 1 · Episode 2
Sunday, September 28, 2025 • Duration 01:14:24
In this conversation, Freddy and Gert-Jan delve into the complexities of cybersecurity and cyber threat intelligence (CTI), exploring the importance of decision-making informed by intelligence, the challenges of training and development in the field, and the significance of metrics in demonstrating value.
They discuss the evolving role of AI in cybersecurity, the necessity of critical thinking, and the importance of mentorship and community support for aspiring professionals.
Takeaways
The journey into cybersecurity often starts with hands-on experience rather than formal education.
Understanding the implicit decision-making processes in CTI is crucial for effective intelligence work.
Training and continuous learning are essential in cybersecurity.
Metrics should focus on impact rather than just activities to demonstrate value to stakeholders.
AI is transforming the landscape of intelligence, but critical thinking remains vital.
Source assessment and information evaluation are key components of effective intelligence generation.
The importance of storytelling in conveying intelligence to different stakeholders cannot be overstated.
Building a community and supporting others in their journey is a fundamental aspect of professional growth.
Recognizing influential figures in one's career can provide valuable insights and direction.
The future of CTI will require adaptability and a focus on explicit decision-making processes.
Insights into Cyber Threat Intelligence: From Government to Private Sector - Interview with Garrett Carstens (S1E1)
Season 1 · Episode 1
Sunday, September 28, 2025 • Duration 54:27
Join us in the first episode of our podcast where we interview Garrett Carstens in beautiful Berlin.
Garrett shares his extensive experience in cyber threat intelligence, from his beginnings at the US Department of Defense to his current role as VP of Intel Operations at Intel 471.
We delve into the transition from government to private sector, the importance of critical thinking in cyber intelligence, the evolution of threat intelligence, and how to effectively measure success in this field. Garrett also discusses the role of artificial intelligence and machine learning in cyber intelligence and provides practical advice for those looking to make a similar career transition.
Resources and references mentioned:
Intel471 - https://www.intel471.com/
SANS blog - https://www.sans.org/blog/enhance-your-cyber-threat-intelligence-with-the-admiralty-system/
FIRST CTI Conference Agenda - https://www.first.org/conference/firstcti25/program
LinkedIn post on "what makes something intelligence?" - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/fmurre_in-your-opinion-when-does-something-go-from-activity-7181221399561203712-mV-m
The Intelligence Architecture Mind Map on GitHub - https://github.com/Errum/IntelArchitectureMap
SANS courses FOR578 CTI - https://www.sans.org/cyber-security-courses/cyber-threat-intelligence
This conversation is a compressed edit of an interview Freddy has conducted as part of his PhD research. The interview was recorded in April 21st, 2025 during the FIRST CTI Conference in Berlin
From GCHQ to Building effective OSINT and Cyber Threat Intelligence (CTI) Functions - Interview with Aaron Roberts (S2E3)
Season 2 · Episode 3
Wednesday, March 25, 2026 • Duration 01:23:37
Summary
In cybersecurity, understanding the intricacies of intelligence tradecraft can make all the difference. In this insightful interview, cybersecurity expert Aaron Roberts shares his journey from military intelligence to founding Perspective Intelligence. He discusses the evolution of cyber threat intelligence, practical training approaches, the impact of AI, and how to build a successful intelligence function.
Aaron’s path into intelligence started with a fascination for intelligence and a local awareness of GCHQ, the UK’s Government Communications Headquarters. He candidly shares, "I always tell people this story and I don't think anyone believes me, but I used to watch a lot of 24." He recalls, "I was always interested in military history and intelligence services, which guided my career path." This foundational knowledge helped him navigate the complexities of cyber intelligence later on.
After working at GCHQ, Aaron faced a significant decision: stay in public service or explore opportunities in the private sector. He explains, "I thought I was always going to be there for life," but personal circumstances and the evolving cybersecurity landscape prompted him to make a change.
Aaron’s experiences provide valuable insights into cyber threat intelligence (CTI). He emphasizes the importance of adapting to new threats and technologies. "Cybersecurity is an ever-changing landscape, and staying ahead requires constant learning and adaptation," he advises.
One key area Aaron focuses on is Open Source Intelligence (OSINT). He finds it fascinating how the internet can be utilized for intelligence investigations. "Using the internet for intelligence work is incredibly powerful," he states. This approach allows organizations to gather insights that are often overlooked in traditional intelligence methodologies.
In 2021, Aaron published his book on cyber threat intelligence, a project that began during the early days of the COVID-19 lockdown. He shares, "I decided to write a book because there wasn’t much available for non-analysts looking to understand threat intelligence better." The process was both challenging and rewarding, providing him with a platform to share his knowledge and experiences.
Psychology of Intelligence book - https://www.cia.gov/resources/csi/static/Pyschology-of-Intelligence-Analysis.pdf
SANS FOR578 CTI - https://www.sans.org/cyber-security-courses/cyber-threat-intelligence
Is all Intelligence Forward Looking blog post - https://inteltradecraft.com/is-all-intelligence-forward-looking
The Thinking, Fast & Slow Book - https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0374275637
Training with Intelligence Tradecraft - https://inteltradecraft.com/sat-certifications
IAFIE - https://www.iafie.org/
The Structured Analytic Techniques (SAT) Book - https://www.amazon.com/Structured-Analytic-Techniques-Intelligence-Analysis/dp/150636893X
The SAT Handbook book - https://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Analytic-Tools-Techniques-5th/dp/0979888093/
Admiralty Scale SANS Blog - https://www.sans.org/blog/enhance-your-cyber-threat-intelligence-with-the-admiralty-system/
SANS FOR589 Cybercrime course - https://www.sans.org/cyber-security-courses/cybercrime-intelligence/
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Elizabeth Dos Santos
01:51 Journey into Intelligence
08:44 Career Development in the FBI
12:40 Challenges and Growth in Intelligence
19:39 Transitioning to the Private Sector
27:52 The Role of AI in Intelligence
53:23 Advice for Aspiring Intelligence Analysts
01:07:29 The Importance of Communication in Intelligence
01:14:19 Structured Analytic Techniques and IAP
01:18:19 Conclusion and Reflections on Intelligence
This conversation is a compressed edit of an interview Freddy has conducted as part of his PhD research. The interview happened on May 13th, 2025 in Copenhagen, Denmark.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Terry's Journey
02:54 Training and Development in Intelligence
05:52 Transitioning from Government to Private Sector
08:58 Challenges in Intelligence Analysis
11:50 The Role of Planning in Intelligence Work
14:51 The Maturity of Intelligence in the Private Sector
17:53 The Impact of Geopolitics on Cyber Intelligence
20:56 The Future of AI in Intelligence
23:43 Open Source Intelligence vs. Open Source Information
26:47 Advice and Reflections on Intelligence Work
This conversation is a compressed edit of an interview Freddy has conducted as part of his PhD research. The interview happened on May 3rd, 2025 in London, England.
Flavio Queiroz's LinkedIn post - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/flavioqueiroz_threathunting-threatdetection-threatanalysis-activity-7310254153732141056-b-Ba/
Council of Experts: https://blog.bushidotoken.net/2024/04/strengthening-proactive-cti-through.html
Microsoft Security Copilot: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/business/ai-machine-learning/microsoft-security-copilot
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Cyber Threat Intelligence
02:48 Career Journey in Cybersecurity
06:08 Understanding Cyber Threat Intelligence
09:06 The Role of Training in Cyber Intelligence
11:57 Teaching and Sharing Knowledge in Cybersecurity
15:08 The Importance of Community in Cyber Intelligence
17:54 Challenges in Cyber Threat Reporting
20:56 The Impact of AI on Cyber Threat Intelligence
24:08 Future of AI in Cybersecurity
26:47 Ethics and Challenges of AI in Intelligence
29:57 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
This conversation is a compressed edit of an interview Freddy has conducted as part of his PhD research. The interview happened on May 2nd, 2025 in Bournemouth, England.
IAP training - https://inteltradecraft.com/sat-certifications
SANS blog post on sources and admiralty scale - https://www.sans.org/blog/enhance-your-cyber-threat-intelligence-with-the-admiralty-system/
The Five Habits of the Master Thinker paper - https://digitalcommons.usf.edu/jss/vol6/iss3/5/
SAT book - https://www.amazon.com/Structured-Analytic-Techniques-Intelligence-Analysis/dp/150636893X
The Art of the Long View book - https://www.amazon.com/Art-Long-View-Planning-Uncertain/dp/0385267320
Maria Robson Morrow's research - https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02684527.2022.2029099
Gary Klein's book - https://www.amazon.com/Sources-Power-People-Decisions-Press/dp/0262534290
The Intel Architecture mind map on GitHub - https://github.com/Errum/IntelArchitectureMap
Intelligence Tradecraft Structured Analytic Techniques (SAT) training - https://inteltradecraft.com/sat-certifications
Workshop I teach at FIRST CTI - https://www.first.org/conference/firstcti25/program#pIntelligence-Collection-Planning-Workshop-How-to-Create-A-Plan-that-Synchronizes-Collection-with-Your-Stakeholders-Needs
11:51 The Importance of Storytelling in Cyber Intelligence
15:05 Challenges in Implementing Threat Informed Defense
17:52 The Role of AI and Machine Learning in Cyber Intelligence
21:01 Evaluating Open Source Intelligence (OSINT)
23:56 Identifying Trustworthy Sources in Cyber Intelligence
26:59 Lessons Learned from Mistakes in Cyber Intelligence
29:44 Case Study: Analyzing the Akira Ransomware Group
33:10 Future of Cyber Threat Intelligence
38:06 Navigating the Landscape of Cyber Threat Intelligence
43:37 The Path to Becoming a Cyber Intelligence Analyst
46:08 The Importance of Writing in Cyber Intelligence
49:31 Essential Skills for a Successful Analyst
51:14 Structured Analytical Techniques in Cyber Intelligence
54:30 Implementing Intelligence Tradecraft in Organizations
58:02 Proactive vs. Reactive Intelligence
01:01:33 The Role of AI in Cyber Threat Intelligence
01:09:53 The Future of Automated Threats and Defenses
01:15:15 The Value of Networking and Community in Cyber Intelligence
This conversation is a compressed edit of an interview Freddy has conducted as part of his PhD research. The interview was recorded in April 23rd, 2025 during the FIRST CTI Conference in Berlin.
00:00 Introduction to Gert-Jan and the CTI Conference
02:50 Gert-Jan's Journey in Cybersecurity
05:51 The Role of Intelligence in Decision Making
08:50 Training and Development in Cyber Threat Intelligence
12:06 Consultancy and the Importance of Storytelling
14:46 Generating and Consuming Intelligence
17:37 The Distinction Between OSINT and OSINF
20:49 Prioritization and Decision Making in Intelligence
23:54 The Art of Failure and Learning
26:55 Navigating the Intelligence Cycle
29:53 Responding to Incidents and Public Perception
35:38 Critical Thinking in Source Assessment
39:48 Understanding Source Reliability
43:04 The Role of AI in Intelligence
51:31 Metrics and Measuring Impact
01:06:02 Advice for Aspiring CTI Professionals
01:11:49 Reflecting on Influential Figures
This conversation is a compressed edit of an interview Freddy has conducted as part of his PhD research. The interview was recorded in April 21st, 2025 during the FIRST CTI Conference in Berlin.
04:21 Transitioning from Government to Private Sector
12:23 Becoming a Published Author
20:37 The Importance of Context in Cyber Intelligence
28:08 Challenges in Open Source Intelligence
36:53 Defining Intelligence: What It Is and Isn't
44:47 Critical Thinking in Intelligence Analysis
51:52 Training and Certifications in Intelligence
59:14 Success Criteria for Intelligence Functions
01:05:07 The Future of Cyber Threat Intelligence
01:11:03 The Role of AI in Intelligence
01:18:18 Advice for Aspiring Intelligence Professionals
PS! This conversation is a compressed edit of an interview Freddy has conducted as part of his PhD research. The interview happened on July 1st, 2025 in London, UK.
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