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Joel Van der Loon and Eva Müller explore energy healing from a practical, experience-led perspective. Joel shares his own intense somatic releases and spiritual transformation after divorce, while Eva explains how she works with high vibrational divine energies to clear stuck emotions, expand the system, and support healing.
We discuss why energy work is difficult to understand until it is felt, how childhood conditioning and stored emotion shape adult life, and why both speakers see present-moment awareness as central to healing. The conversation also covers intuition, vibration, God, and how Eva’s group-based work is designed to support ongoing transformation.
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Timestamps
00:00 - Joel introduces Eva and frames energy healing as a real, lived experience
03:11 - Joel describes full-body release, chakra work, and somatic clearing
05:45 - Eva explains how she transmits high vibrational divine energies
07:25 - Clearing stuck emotion, ancestral patterns, and past life influences
08:48 - Life energy, chakras, and why openness creates flow
10:55 - Mysticism, direct experience, and why the present moment matters
13:17 - How energetic blockage can become physical illness
15:25 - Resistance, surrender, and staying aligned with life
16:19 - Why the mind drags people into past and future
18:24 - Energy available now versus self-created obstacles
20:45 - Childhood conditioning from ages one to seven
23:04 - Triggers, stored pain, and subconscious belief systems25:01 - Why somatic healing matters more than insight alone27:22 - Eva’s path into energy work and early experiences of silence29:39 - Working beyond the mind and feeling energy in the body33:12 - Energy as vibration, information, and transformation35:07 - Reality as a mirror of inner vibration38:46 - Atoms, nonmatter, and the vibrational nature of reality40:23 - Nature, high vibration, and emotional states44:08 - Clearing low vibrational emotions versus processing them mentally45:41 - Why triggered states lose power once the system is cleared46:37 - Fast-track healing through high vibrational energies47:36 - Sitting with emotion instead of suppressing it49:32 - Joel asks about channeling and guidance51:09 - Eva describes channeling energy and receiving information as knowing52:34 - Hands, intention, and developing a personal framework54:48 - Healing unfinished emotional energy from childhood56:49 - Why the mind is a small part of the human system57:19 - How thoughts are formed from energy and stored information58:40 - Why thoughts disappear when the system clears60:06 - Sensitivity, boundaries, and tuning into energy only when needed66:27 - Eva’s view of God, creation, and the divine mother72:19 - Eva explains her offerings and group-based energetic work74:11 - Free Thursday meditation, guided practice, and Q&A76:34 - Why she works with groups instead of one-on-one sessions78:30 - Closing thanks and invitation to explore the work
