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Lucas Cantor has an unusual claim on the AI conversation. In 2019, Huawei asked him to finish Schubert's Unfinished Symphony using artificial intelligence, and he did it. He's an Emmy-winning composer who has worked on every Olympics since 2002, produced a cover of Everybody Wants to Rule the World with Lorde, and now invests in music technology. His new book is Unfinished: The Role of the Artist in the Age of Artificial Intelligence.

In this episode Georgie Healy gets Lucas to take apart the story we're all being told about AI. Why he thinks nobody actually knows what the term even means. Why every single person he asks assumes AI can do the job they're not an expert in, and can't do the job they are. Why the claim that AI democratizes creativity is a fallacy sold by AI companies, and what it actually democratizes instead. Why B2B SaaS isn't dead, and who benefits from you believing it is. And why the music industry, supposedly murdered by Napster, is bigger now than it was before.

If you build, market, or operate anything, this is a useful hour of pressure testing. Lucas isn't a doomer and he isn't an evangelist. He's someone who has been inside the technology long enough to tell the difference between what it does and what it's sold as.

Recorded ahead of his first trip to Australia for BIGSOUND - which is September 1st - 4th in Brisbane!

Chapters:

00:00 Cold open

00:54 Welcome, and who Lucas Cantor is

02:49 The AI hack: stem separation

04:14 Taylor Swift's wedding

04:55 BIGSOUND, and the fear around AI in music

06:23 Why the purist argument falls apart

07:25 Tuning has drifted since the Renaissance

10:02 Composer, producer, author, investor

11:16 What Suno is, and the ethics problem

12:20 Why all music sounds better now

15:33 What it actually means to have your music stolen

16:56 Covering Everybody Wants to Rule the World with Lorde

19:19 Source Connect, Audio Movers, and remote studios

20:22 The fallacy that AI democratizes creativity

22:38 Black Swan, conductors, and the war on expertise

24:26 The doctor who said AI could write a pop song

27:38 Why he called himself a Luddite

30:18 Hans Zimmer's studio, and saying yes to Huawei

32:34 Finishing Schubert's Unfinished Symphony

37:00 "I don't think anybody knows what AI is"

38:49 Every AI agent ad shows something nobody needs

42:14 Hot take: is B2B SaaS dead?

45:13 AI is a story, and that's the problem

46:25 What actually wins in music tech

49:28 Amusing, but not amazing

50:20 Ben Affleck, Scorsese, and AI in the creative process

53:30 Two Emmys and a coach of the year award

55:36 The one takeaway from Unfinished

57:33 Georgie's Substack, Attention Is All I Need

Robin O'Connell spends his days inside LinkedIn's marketing and advertising team in Australia, working with founders and brands on content strategy - which makes him a rare voice on where AI genuinely helps marketers, and where it still falls flat. In this episode, Robin makes the case that the smartest move for any marketer right now is trying to replace parts of your own job with AI, just to find out fast what it can't do. His answer: strategy. AI can automate tactics at scale, but it still can't replace the judgement that comes from genuinely understanding a customer.

Georgie and Robin get into how brands actually stand out on LinkedIn (hint: it's not by looking like Apple), why comments and DMs are a better growth signal than impressions, and how to tell when AI-written content is quietly killing your credibility.

The standout story, though, is personal: Robin's dad Dennis, a serial entrepreneur in Dublin who lost his retail business during COVID, now runs a landscaping venture - and uses AI image generation on an iPad to show clients exactly what their garden will look like before a single spade hits the ground. It's one of the clearest, most human examples of AI actually changing how someone runs a small business.

Find Robin on LinkedIn for more on marketing, AI, and content strategy.

Freddie McKenzie is the co-founder and CEO of Manifest, an AI platform that helps creative and marketing agencies capture the real value of their work without timesheets. Before Manifest, he built and exited VIVID Creative, an Auckland-based production agency behind campaigns for Jetstar and other major brands, and in this conversation with Georgie Healy he traces that journey and where he thinks AI agents, and the AI hype cycle, are actually heading.

Freddie shares his AI hack of stacking meeting transcripts to actually see progress over time, and explains why he refuses to automate the one interface he thinks matters most: his inbox. He unpacks why Manifest's CTO built a proprietary AI model instead of wrapping an off-the-shelf one, the real story behind Manifest's $2 million pre-seed raise in a tough funding market, and his take on why most companies experimenting with AI agents still can't get past their first prompt. He also makes the case that the so-called SaaS apocalypse is a myth, and shares his simple rule for founders chasing product-market fit: find the ugly problem, not the sexy one.

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Welcome to the first ever episode of AI Icons, a new thing I'm launching on the show. Here's the idea: the people reshaping tech have stories more entertaining than anything Hollywood is putting out, so in under 30 minutes I'm going to tell you the whole story, the good, the bad, and the ugly, but only the facts. No spin. And at the end, I'll give you my two cents on what actually made them an icon, and whether it's something you and I could ever replicate.

First up is Mira Murati, and I'll admit it, I'm a fan. I take you all the way back to her childhood in isolated post-communist Albania, where maths was the one subject the party couldn't rewrite, through a scholarship in Canada, degrees in maths and mechanical engineering, and a Goldman Sachs floor in Tokyo at 21. Then it's Tesla and those ridiculous Falcon Wing doors, a risky bet on a startup called Leap Motion, and the move that made her famous: OpenAI, where she rose to CTO and helped bring DALL-E and ChatGPT into your life.

And then there's the part that genuinely reads like a thriller. The 72 hours in November 2023 when Sam Altman was fired, Mira was named CEO, and a 52-page memo and a string of 2:30am texts sat right at the center of it. I walk you through what we know, what we still don't, and what came out under oath. I finish on her next act, Thinking Machines Lab, the record-breaking raise, the talent exodus, and why, out of my four Gs, I think one of them explains her better than the rest. Come find out which one.

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Peter Gostev is head of AI capabilities at Arena (LMArena), the community-based platform where millions of real people vote in blind tests to rank AI models, born out of research at UC Berkeley. Before Arena, Peter was Head of AI at Moonpig and built a large following sharing hands-on explorations of what the latest models can actually do. He joins Georgie Healy from London for a genuinely nerdy, insider look at how models are judged and where the frontier is heading.

In this episode, Peter explains the difference between static benchmarks and human judgment, and why a model can pass every test you write and still produce something that looks completely awful. He breaks down the current state of the leaderboards, why Anthropic's models are dominating and how that tracks with real world adoption, and gives a sharp comparison of the top Western models, including why Anthropic's non-reasoning models are exceptional while OpenAI's strength lies in deep reasoning. Georgie and Peter get into why people aren't using Chinese models more despite their quality, the economics behind AI pricing and how enterprise usage is priced very differently from consumer subscriptions, why release cadence matters as much as capability, and what the wave of data centre investment means for the models arriving next. Along the way there's a fond detour on Opus 3 as the model you could talk to for hours, and why better models can sometimes feel worse.

Tune in for a clear-eyed, hype-free guide to how AI models are really evaluated, straight from someone who watches the charts move in real time.

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Damian Naughton is the General Manager of ANZ at ElevenLabs, the voice AI company now past US$500 million in ARR, just four years after its 2022 founding. Formerly a regional VP at Slack and an early team member at Sydney's Hyper Anna (acquired by Alteryx), Damian is leading ElevenLabs' new Sydney office and tripling the local team as enterprise demand for voice AI accelerates.

In this episode, Damian and Georgie Healy cover why ElevenLabs is planting a flag in ANZ now and the local customers already on board, including Xero, Employment Hero, Heidi Health, Australia Post, and Andromeda Robotics' aged care companion robot Abby. Damian unpacks the company's high performance culture and the "11x yourself" philosophy, why intrinsic motivation beats top down pressure, and how he co-designs stretch goals with new hires. They get into voice cloning and the ethics behind it, how little audio you actually need to clone a voice, and how ElevenLabs handles consent, safety, and scammers, including a clever "reverse" use case that keeps fraudsters on the line to gather intel for banks. Damian also shares his view that enterprise AI needs to be led by the business rather than tech, why the BPO and consulting worlds are facing real disruption, and his take that tall poppy syndrome is a scourge holding Australian tech back.

Tune in for a candid conversation on voice AI, building a high performing team, and how enterprises should prepare for a near future where your own AI assistant takes action on your behalf.

Time Stamps

00:00 – Intro: Your AI Assistant Will Soon Take Action For You

02:17 – AI Hack of the Week: A Michael Caine Voice Butler On The Fridge

04:57 – ElevenLabs Launches in Australia and New Zealand

07:14 – Why Voice AI Is Ready Now (Xero, Employment Hero, Heidi, Andromeda)

10:52 – From Journalist to Voice AI: How AI Is Changing the News

13:40 – Inside Hyper Anna, the Aussie Startup Acquired by Alteryx

15:31 – ElevenLabs' High Performance Culture and the "11x Yourself" Rule

25:38 – The ElevenLabs Founding Story: Two Polish Founders and Bad Dubbing

28:42 – How Will Australia React to Voice AI?

31:24 – Voice Cloning Ethics, Consent, and Celebrity Voices

34:12 – How Little Audio You Need to Clone a Voice

37:17 – Voice AI and Scammers: How ElevenLabs Fights Fraud

42:05 – Can AI Bring Back Music From Artists Who Have Passed?

45:11 – Can Enterprise Companies Actually Adapt to AI?

53:05 – Advice for Heads of AI: Let Business Lead, Not Tech

56:39 – Rapid Fire: Tall Poppy Syndrome, Hiring, and Spicy Takes

1:02:05 – Where to Follow Damian and ElevenLabs

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Akshay Kothari is the COO and co-founder of Notion, the workspace platform now used by over a hundred million people. Before Notion, he co-founded Pulse, the newsreader app built as a Stanford class project that Steve Jobs name-checked on stage at WWDC 2010 before LinkedIn acquired it. He joined Notion in 2018 when the team was fewer than ten people, and in this conversation with Georgie Healy he traces that journey and where knowledge work is heading as agents take centre stage.

Akshay shares his AI hack of the week, turning a screenshot of restaurant recommendations into a shareable Notion database, and explains how the unit of work has shifted from taking notes to simply having a chat. He unpacks the design obsession behind Notion's identity, the block architecture that lets anyone build their own tools, and the new Developer Platform that brings outside agents like Claude and Codex onto Notion's context graph. He paints a picture of a "factory of agents" working round the clock while humans move to reviewing and applying taste, makes the case for model optionality and cost control, and shares his rule for custom agents: macro delegate, then micro steer.

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This is a #paidpartnership with Commonwealth Bank

Blair is the Chief Engineer of Generative AI at Commonwealth Bank, overseeing nine to ten teams building the AI platform that powers Australia’s largest bank and its millions of customers. Including me, a Dollar Mite since primary school.

His origin story is not what you would expect. He was a self-described hacker who grew up clicking through every system configuration setting he could find on his mum’s school computers after hours. That curiosity took him from building on GPT-2 before ChatGPT even existed, to the heart of one of Australia’s most important institutions.

In this episode we get into:

• The litmus test he uses to spot bad AI use immediately
• Why context matters more than prompting
• What an AI platform actually is and why your company probably needs one
• Why software engineers need to take more accountability for what they build
• The single security mistake most people are still making
• Why it is absolutely not too late to figure AI out for yourself

Practical, candid, and full of things you can action today.

00:00 Intro

03:05 What Does a Chief Engineer of AI at a Bank Actually Do

06:02 How CBA Collaborates Across Hundreds of Engineering Teams

08:56 How to Keep Up With AI Tools Without Getting Overwhelmed

12:04 Why Tool Consistency Matters in Enterprise AI

14:56 Why Blair Shares His AI Insights Publicly

17:51 What Being a Hacker Really Means in Tech

20:50 How Blair Hudson Went From Startup AI to Commonwealth Bank

23:59 Why CBA Starts Every Sprint With a Real Customer Call

27:06 Why Over-Engineering Is Killing Your AI Projects

29:47 Where AI Is Actually Moving the Needle in Banking Right Now

32:15 Why the Year of the Agent Was Overhyped

34:41 How to Build AI Fast Without Cutting Corners on Safety

39:28 What Is an AI Platform and Why Does Your Company Need One

41:49 How CBA Handles Shadow AI and Tool Adoption at Scale

45:09 Why Context Is More Important Than Prompting

50:29 The Number One Security Mistake You Are Still Making

52:30 The Easiest Way to Start Using AI to Save Time Today

54:05 Why You Should Never Ship AI Output Without Reviewing It

55:38 Why It Is Not Too Late to Learn AI

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"Can does not imply should."

That one line from Dr Simon Longstaff cuts to the heart of everything wrong with how the tech industry is currently building AI. The Executive Director of The Ethics Centre and one of Australia's most respected moral philosophers joins Georgie for a conversation that is equal parts grounding and mind-expanding, and one of the most important episodes the show has produced.

Simon's path to becoming Australia's foremost ethics expert is not what you would expect. He left school at 16, cleaned toilets on a remote island in the Gulf of Carpentaria, drove ambulances, became a paramedic and fire officer, and was eventually adopted by one of the clans of the Anindilyakwa people. It was at the end of a ship loading wharf that an indigenous elder taught him something about seeing patterns in the world, a lesson he has carried through 35 years of philosophical work and only recently realised had shaped everything.

In this episode he unpacks why ethics is not an optional extra bolted onto technology but the foundation it has to be built on, why the pharmaceutical approval model could be the blueprint for governing AI, and why "necessary fictions" mean that CEOs deploying AI are responsible for outcomes they literally cannot understand. He also makes the case that the coming wave of job displacement does not have to be a catastrophe, and explains what ancient Athens and pre-colonial Indigenous life have to do with universal basic income.

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When Katelyn Lesse was leading engineering at Stripe, she noticed everything around her shifting because of AI. So she left, and joined Anthropic. Today she leads platform engineering at one of the most important AI companies in the world, which is why we were so thrilled to host her for Anthropic's first ever interview in Sydney.

Katelyn does not lead with technical jargon. She leads with a question every builder needs to sit with right now. Are you building on the exponential, or are you stuck on the linear? Most people, she says, are already further behind than they realise.

In this episode she shares the exact framework she uses to think about building in the AI era, why your frustrations with Claude are actually signals you are onto something, and what it really means to be AGI pilled inside Anthropic.

00:00 Intro

02:53 AI Hack: Using Claude to Pick Wine

03:42 Katelyn's Background and Path to Anthropic

05:32 Why She Left Stripe to Join Anthropic

11:22 What Building on the Exponential Means

11:48 Why Australia Is a Top AI Market

13:05 Is the Claude Obsession Healthy?

15:20 The Framework for Building AI Products

16:38 Why Evals Are Non-Negotiable

18:18 Inside Anthropic's Developer Platform

20:11 What Is Harness Engineering?

25:13 AI Security, Sandboxes and Human in the Loop

29:09 Cloud Managed Agents Explained

31:56 Open Source MCP vs Closed Claude

33:48 How AI Is Changing Engineering Teams

36:24 How to Choose the Right AI Coding Tool

39:12 The End of the Traditional Tech Team

44:30 The AI Magic Moment Everyone Remembers

45:30 What It Means to Be AGI Pilled

47:21 Rapid Fire With Anthropic

49:56 Advice for Developers Building With AI

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Anna Zhou and Vivian Shen, the co-founders of Toastie, join Georgie Healy for one of the warmest and most personal conversations the show has had. Two software engineers at Google by day, they have quietly built one of the most thoughtful health tracking apps in the world by night, all without spending a single dollar on marketing.

Toastie was born from a problem they were both living. Anna was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease and handed a few photocopied sheets to figure out the rest of her life from. Viv has been managing PCOS for years, experimenting with medications and diets on her own. They realised the tools available simply were not built for people like them, so they built one themselves. Today Toastie helps users track symptoms, food, body signals, lab reports and scans, surfacing the patterns and irregularities that would otherwise go unnoticed.

In this episode they unpack why almost one in two Australians live with a chronic illness but no one talks about it, why slapping AI on everything is the wrong instinct and how they decide which features actually need it, and the cold LinkedIn email that landed them their first global partnership before they even had a product. They also share why ChatGPT and Gemini are not enough when the stakes are this high, what their users actually write to them in the feedback form, and the story of the user who quietly security audited their app and was so impressed they wrote in to tell them.

Plus the early hackathon they won by faking the backend in real time, why they call themselves boomers when it comes to social media, the worst startup advice they have ever received, and a special offer just for In The Blink of AI listeners.

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00:00 Intro

02:20 AI Hacks and Life at Google Sydney

07:00 How They Met and Their Hackathon Wins

10:51 What is Toastie and Why It Matters

13:50 The Personal Stories Behind the Product

16:23 How They Use AI (And Where They Don't)

17:37 The Cold Email That Landed a Global Partnership

20:00 Why General AI Models Aren't Enough

23:25 Building, Prioritising and the Competition

25:13 Why They Refuse to Call Themselves an AI Company

27:57 Trust, Security and User Feedback

30:00 Going Viral With Zero Marketing Spend

33:33 Handling AI Hate Online

35:43 Rapid Fire and What's Next

38:45 Special Offer for Listeners

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"Code is getting cheaper. Which means taste is getting more expensive."

That one idea from Andrew Hogan reframes everything people think they know about competing in AI right now. Andrew, Head of Insights at Figma, joins Georgie to make the case that features are no longer a moat, and that the companies quietly investing in how their product feels are the ones building something that's actually hard to copy.

In this episode they get into why 56% of non-designers are already doing design work, why the job title "designer" isn't going anywhere, and why anyone who's still treating design as a finish-line coat of paint is going to get lapped. They also unpack what agent management platforms actually need to get right, why design matters even more when kids are the users, and what GeoCities taught us about creative ownership that most product teams have completely forgotten.

Plus: the prompting-together technique that turns prototyping into a team sport, why "no tech at all" is unnecessarily painful for parents, Andrew's verdict on Australian coffee, and why the golden era of the side project might be the most important shift nobody's naming loudly enough.

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"Shit at the speed of light is still shit."

That one line from Pip captures the entire philosophy behind Springboards, the AI company he co-founded with Amy and Kieran that is quietly pushing back against what the rest of the industry is doing. The three of them join Georgie Healy for one of the most thought-provoking conversations the show has had about what AI is quietly doing to creativity, and what it takes to build a model that breaks the mould.

Pip and Amy never planned to start an AI company. Both worked in advertising and got laid off within three weeks of each other, which led them to accidentally build the first version of Springboards themselves to solve a problem they kept running into: existing AI tools were not helping them do creative work better, they were making everyone's creative work look the same. Kieran joined as their technical co-founder and together they have now released Flint, a divergence model designed to break the AI hive mind.

In this episode they unpack why 69 out of 70 language models will tell you that time is a river, why mainstream AI has converged into one gray mush of sameness, and why the scariest part of this might be that most people will not even notice. They also get into how they built Flint to score 7.5 on novelty bench when the frontier models score ones and twos, why the smallest possible model was always the goal, and why they deliberately avoid making the tool feel too polished.

Plus why humans are evolutionarily lazy and what that means for our brains in the AI era, the unexpected analogy about sourdough and alcohol that changes how you think about creativity, and the honest reflection from all three founders on being the self-loathing AI company in a space full of hype.

00:00 — Intro

02:22 — Introducing Flint and the convergence problem in AI models

04:50 — Why Springboards is uniquely positioned to solve creative AI

07:30 — What entropy actually means in language models

09:44 — Real examples: random cars, pizza toppings, and where to holiday

12:36 — Why this matters for the advertising industry (and everyone else)

15:29 — Inside Flint: how to fine-tune a model for divergence

18:38 — Doubling the score on Novelty Bench (and what that even means)

23:35 — Try Flint yourself: who it's for and how to access it

26:10 — Cognitive atrophy, taste, and keeping humans in the creative loop

35:04 — Choosing a tech provider as an early-stage AI startup

38:20 — What actually matters for founders in the sasspocalypse era

41:12 — Rapid fire: copyright, cover shoots, Eumundi markets, and self-loathing AI

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Josh Clemm, VP of Engineering at Dropbox, joins Georgie Healy to cut through the noise and get to what is actually happening with AI agents right now. Josh has scaled engineering teams at LinkedIn and Uber Eats, founded his own AI venture, and is now building Dash, Dropbox's context layer designed to make agents dramatically more reliable. This is someone who has been on the coalface of this technology longer than most.

In this episode Josh introduces two ideas that will change how you think about AI at work. Context rot, the reason your large language models quietly get dumber the more information you give them. And work slop, the plausible sounding but completely hollow output that gets generated when AI tools are used without intention. He also delivers the most reassuring reality check of the year for anyone feeling overwhelmed by the idea that everyone already has a fully functioning team of AI agents working for them.

They also get into how the index approach behind Dash solves what real time fetching cannot, why the next AI breakthrough might actually come from old fashioned software engineering principles, and the two engineers Josh considers the greatest builders of their generation and why neither of them was asked to build what they built.

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Frank Greeff, the founder behind a $180M exit and the viral Founders Table series, is back, this time building Kinso, an AI messaging aggregation tool set to change how businesses communicate. Instead of retiring after one of Australia’s biggest tech acquisitions, Frank is diving back into the grind, sharing why momentum and purpose keep him building.

In this episode, Frank reveals the AI hacks that surprised even his engineers, why scrappy MVPs may not survive in today’s fast-moving AI wave, and how personal branding gives founders a hidden moat. Georgie and Frank also dig into what it takes to self-fund after top VCs said no, attracting A+ engineering talent in a competitive market, and why “taste” will define which AI products win.

Plus, Frank unpacks Meta’s $100M AI hires, the rise of deepfakes and how he protects his family, and answers listener questions on planning exits, building AI startups, and navigating AGI, UBI, and the future of work, all while playing a spicy rapid-fire round.

Time Stamps

03:20 – What is Kinso and why aggregate business messaging

06:15 – Why Frank couldn’t retire after a $180M exit

10:45 – Hack of the Week: how non-technical founders can challenge engineers with AI

14:30 – Why Frank thinks MVPs can’t be scrappy anymore

18:00 – Building a founding team: attracting top AI engineering talent

23:30 – Meta’s $100M AI hires and how Kinso competes

26:40 – Why VCs rejected Kinso and why Frank’s self-funding

30:50 – Taste as a moat: what makes great AI products stand out

33:00 – How building an AI startup differs from RealBase

36:00 – Planning for exits: documentation and timing

40:30 – Deepfakes and Frank’s “secret password” strategy

43:20 – Rapid Fire: AGI, UBI, future of work, and more

Resources Mentioned

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🔗 Frank Greeff on LinkedIn – / frankgreeff

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Jason Maynard, CTO of Zendesk, joins Georgie Healy for a conversation that cuts through the AI automation hype and gets to what is actually happening on the front lines of customer service.

Jason shares the framework every business needs right now for deciding where automation genuinely helps customers and where it quietly destroys trust. He introduces the dolphin problem, the counterintuitive reason why the brands that listen hardest to complaints end up winning the most. And he explains why, despite everything you are hearing about AI replacing jobs, customer service job postings in the United States went up 10% in 2025.

They also get into digital snap and how to design your way out of it, why your AI agent is really just an extension of your brand identity, a brand new role emerging inside service organisations that looks a lot like what happened to marketing in the early 2000s, and three rapid fire scenarios that reveal exactly when you need a human and when you do not.

This is one of the most grounded and practical conversations we have had on the show about what AI in customer service actually looks like when it is done well.

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Jeanne DeWitt Grosser, Chief Operating Officer at Vercel, joins Georgie in Sydney to discuss what the shift to agentic AI actually means for developers, founders, and enterprise teams in 2026. Jeanne shares why the primitives required to build reliable agents at scale have only just arrived, and what that means for companies still stitching together fragmented infrastructure.

They explore Vercel's product suite, the real-world application of vibe coding for non-technical builders, and why Next.js has become the default framework that AI models reach for unprompted. Jeanne also breaks down the go-to-market and engineering alignment model Vercel has built internally, and the design partnership approach, refined at Stripe, that turns customer relationships into a product roadmap.

The conversation covers what founders should prioritise right now, why small and fast beats big and planned in the current AI landscape, and how to get genuine signal from customers before you try to sell them anything.

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0:00 Intro

03:07 The Role of Engineers in AI Development

06:01 Transitioning from Tech Giants to Startups

08:56 Vercel's Impact on Development in Australia

12:10 Understanding Vercel's v0 and Next.js

14:53 The Future of AI and Development Tools

18:10 Bridging the Gap Between Technical and Sales Teams

21:10 Feedback Loops and Customer Insights

24:03 The Emergence of Go-to-Market Engineers

27:02 Empathy in Sales and Engineering

29:50 Advice for Navigating AI Overwhelm

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Stripe’s Head of Startups, Hayley Hopwood, joins Georgie to unpack what the next era of commerce actually looks like and why founders need to rethink payments now, not later.

They start with something unexpected: vibe coding a household chore app in 20 minutes. But the conversation quickly moves into much bigger territory. From OpenAI’s arrival in Australia to agentic commerce and Stablecoins, Hayley explains how AI is reshaping the final mile of every transaction and why payments are no longer just infrastructure, they are strategy.

They dive into frictionless checkout, tokenisation, and the psychology of “one click” buying. Hayley shares why Australia will not build the next foundational LLM but can absolutely dominate in niche AI verticals like health, insurance, agriculture and education. She also unpacks why founders must build for global from day one, even if they are only selling locally, and how ignoring tax, currency and billing models early can quietly kill your scale later.

Plus: is B2B SaaS actually dead, what jobs will change first in the AI era, why mediocrity will not survive, and what founders should do in 2026 to stay ahead of the curve.

This is a masterclass in building durable infrastructure in a world moving at AI speed.

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Every time you ask an AI to write a song, generate a script, or mimic a creative style, there's a good chance it learned how to do that by consuming someone's life's work, without asking, without paying, and without them ever knowing.

In October 2025, the Albanese Government became the first in the world to rule out a text and data mining exception to copyright law, a landmark win for creators that is now being actively challenged by the tech industry. It's the backdrop to everything Holly and Georgie discuss here.

Holly Rankin, the artist behind Jack River and founder of cultural strategy company Sentiment Agency, has testified before Australian Parliament and become one of the most articulate voices in the fight to ensure the AI economy doesn't get built on the back of stolen human culture. In this episode she and Georgie get into the staggering labour that goes into making a single song, why the "it's too complicated to license" argument from Big Tech is a convenient myth, and what the Anthropic book piracy settlement really signals about where this is all heading. But underneath the policy detail is a bigger question: if we let machines consume and replicate everything that makes us human, what exactly are we left with?

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Tracey Spicer is one of Australia’s most respected journalists and the author of Man-Made: How the Bias of the Past Is Being Built into the Future. In this episode, Georgie sits down with Tracey for a sharp, funny, and occasionally jaw-dropping conversation about what happens when we treat AI like neutral math instead of what it really is: opinion written in code.

They unpack why algorithmic bias is getting worse in the generative AI era, how recommendation engines can quietly radicalise people (from Andrew Tate pipelines to hyper-performative “tradwife” culture), and why “move fast” without guardrails is a dangerous blueprint. The discussion also goes into the weird and unsettling frontier of humanoid home robots, privacy risks in always-on devices, and what Tracey learned researching sex robots, including the disturbing ways consent is engineered out of the product.

Plus: why Tracey’s favourite AI tool is Claude, what she thinks about Grok and the chaos machine of X, why we are not getting a four day work week anytime soon, and her case for “regulatory sandpits” to test AI safely before it hits the rest of the world.

01:10 – Tracey’s TEDx “The lady stripped bare” moment and why it still matters

04:45 – Beauty standards, AI filters, and why expectations on young women have intensified

08:20 – Man-Made and the epiphany that sparked Tracey’s AI obsession

11:10 – The AI arms race, speed, and why we are in the “seatbelt era” of tech

14:30 – Digital natives vs critical thinking: the hallucination blind spot

16:45 – Tracey’s AI stack: why Claude is her daily driver

19:05 – Humanoid home robots: convenience vs surveillance

21:55 – Strength vs security: what actually scares Tracey about robots

24:35 – Sex robots and the consent problem manufacturers do not talk about

28:10 – Algorithms as “opinions in code” and how radicalisation happens

33:10 – Removing bias: conversations, perspective checks, and inclusive design

35:00 – Grok, MechaHitler, and what happens when platforms mirror their owners

36:45 – Deepfake porn, consent, and why regulation is finally catching up

38:10 – No, AI will not magically deliver a four day work week

41:10 – Future jobs: law, AI assistants, and why juniors still need fundamentals

44:15 – Indigenous knowledge, language revitalisation, and the full-circle AI story

46:50 – Rapid fire: brain chips, Waymo, smart glasses, and AI “snog marry avoid”

49:55 – What we should do now: regulatory sandpits and real guardrails

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Enterprise AI is past the hype phase and into the hard part: scaling what works without breaking security, blowing out costs, or shipping chaos into production. In this episode, Georgie chats with AWS technologist Rada Stanic about using AI as a “study buddy” to renew technical certifications faster, and why tools like AWS QuickSight can generate strong first drafts of strategy docs when you provide the right templates and context.

They go deep on AIOps: the operational discipline enterprises need to deploy agents and GenAI reliably at scale. Rada breaks AIOps into five practical pillars: defining agent intent, identity and security boundaries, policy and governance, observability and evaluation, and managing the rapid model lifecycle as new LLMs drop constantly. The conversation also covers why security questions dominate every enterprise AI project, why data quality still makes or breaks outcomes, and why “RAG” is fading as a buzzword even though retrieval is still foundational.

Finally, Rada shares a sharp concern for the next generation: what happens to junior roles when AI fills the entry level work, and why the pace of change itself may become the next generation’s greatest advantage.

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Liam Millward is one of Australia’s most watched young founders, but this conversation goes way beyond the headline of raising a record pre-seed at 17. Liam breaks down how Instant is building an AI powered marketing manager for e-commerce brands, why retention marketing is the real lever for growth, and how personalisation at scale changes the economics of marketing teams.

Georgie and Liam unpack what it actually takes to win in B2B SaaS right now, why “nice-to-have dashboards” are getting crushed, and what young founders should do instead of spending their time posing with VCs. Liam also shares the downside of raising big too early, his bet on Google winning the model race, and the one tool he has mandated across Instant’s engineering team.

Plus: why New York (not SF) is the next chapter for Instant, how Australian buying habits can create painful customers, and Liam’s spicy prediction that AI agents will become the majority of internet traffic shockingly soon.

01:35 – Meet Liam Millward and the record-breaking pre-seed story

03:40 – Using AI to hire better and have deeper interviews

07:55 – What Instant actually does and why retention beats acquisition

12:00 – How AI personalization changes loyalty, margins, and growth

16:30 – Is B2B SaaS dead or just getting ruthless?

20:45 – Raising big too early, age bias, and proving people wrong

28:30 – Teenage founders, VC hype, and why starting small still wins

34:15 – New York expansion, Google vs OpenAI, and Claude Code

43:50 – AI agents, Australia’s talent drain, and what comes next

44:38 – Saying no to customers: Australia’s “buy from friends” trap

45:32 – Structure at Instant: obsession, speed, and a tiny leadership team

46:42 – Australia’s talent drain and what could change it

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Is the next AI breakthrough hiding in robotics, not chatbots?

This week on In the Blink of AI, Georgie Healy is joined by cognitive robotics researcher Colm Flanagan for a grounded look at the next phase of artificial intelligence beyond large language models. While tools like ChatGPT live comfortably in the cloud, robots do not have that luxury. A self-driving car, drone, or warehouse bot cannot wait seconds for an answer. Decisions have to happen instantly, on device. Colm explains why this constraint could force a fundamental rethink of how we build AI, pushing models to become smaller, faster, and rooted in real-world experience rather than just trained on internet text.

The conversation explores whether LLM progress is starting to plateau, what a “data ceiling” really means, and why chasing AGI might be the wrong goal altogether. From robots that form memories like humans to the privacy tradeoffs of machines that watch and learn from us, they unpack the technical limits, the hype cycles, and what actually matters for builders today. If you want a clear-eyed take on where AI is genuinely heading, and why the next breakthroughs may be physical rather than digital, this episode connects the dots.

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Josh Vinson works at the edge where AI meets the human brain. With a background in psychology and machine learning, he is part of a growing group of engineers exploring neural decoding, the emerging field focused on translating brain signals into meaningful insights about thought, intent, and experience. While the idea of “reading thoughts” still sounds like science fiction, Josh explains why parts of it are already real, and why recent advances in large language models have quietly accelerated progress in this space.

In this episode of In The Blink of AI, Georgie Healy sits down with Josh to unpack how brain computer interfaces actually work, what separates invasive implants like Neuralink from noninvasive approaches such as EEG, and why the hardest challenges are not ethical or philosophical but technical. They explore the twin problems of noisy hardware and radically different brains, and what it would take for neural decoding to become reliable enough for clinical and everyday use.

The conversation stretches beyond medicine into the future of communication itself. From experience transfer and lucid dreaming headsets to brain wearables that could track attention, presence, and mental fatigue, Josh shares a clear-eyed view of what might be possible and what should give us pause. If you’re curious about where human cognition and artificial intelligence truly begin to blur, this episode offers a grounded look at what’s coming and why it matters.

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Tom Newby, Head of AI and co-founder at Procure Pro, joins Georgie Healy for a fast, candid tour through the most useful, controversial, and surprisingly human parts of the AI wave.

They start with Tom’s favourite under-the-radar tool in Australia, Hex, and its new “AI data analyst” agent that can actually do analyst work, not just answer simple queries. Georgie shares her own weekend hack: using AI to redesign a very average rental outdoor area with photo-based before-and-afters.

From there, the conversation turns to the bigger questions: whether using LLMs makes us “lazy”, why the blank page problem is real (and how AI helps you get to a wrong answer fast so you can refine), and what it takes to build AI features that actually matter inside a product. Tom breaks down Procure Pro’s mission to save a billion hours of construction admin and explains “bid leveling”, the messy PDF-to-spreadsheet reality that procurement teams face every day.

Georgie also brings the headlines. They unpack Australia’s surge in commercial data centre construction (and why the export narrative might not hold), plus Tom’s spicy take on OpenAI’s recent cadence, model naming chaos, and why distribution and “apps” could matter more than raw model gains.

They finish with rapid-fire stories: Tom’s accidental three-hour job, a 7-Eleven game exploit turned Slurpee rewards, a surprisingly thoughtful answer on ADHD and LLM workflows, plus a practical trust framework for everyday AI users.

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Australia has a new AI strategy, but does it match the speed of the moment? Dr Tom Kelly, CEO of Heidi Health, and Anish Sinha, founder of UpCover, sit at the coalface of deploying AI in two of the most regulated industries in the country: healthcare and insurance. They have both built companies where safety, compliance, and real-world adoption are not optional, and they bring that builder perspective to a frank assessment of the government’s latest plan.

In this episode of In The Blink of AI, Georgie sits down with Tom and Anish for a practical conversation on what Australia’s AI strategy gets right, what it completely misses, and what it would take to move from vague principles to measurable outcomes. They argue the plan needs sharper priorities, clearer success metrics, and a more decisive approach to accelerating adoption in industries where AI can lift productivity quickly.

Tom unpacks why Australia is non-competitive on energy and compute, why chip availability and latency matter if we want world-class AI experiences locally, and what policy levers could make Australia a serious data centre and infrastructure contender. Anish explains why tech-neutral regulation is a relief for startups, why government should focus on long-term market-making rather than short-term accelerators, and why Australia should look to Canada for inspiration instead of trying to copy the US or China.

This is a sharp, builder-led episode for anyone trying to understand what Australia should actually do next in AI, from infrastructure and sovereignty to education, public sector productivity, and stopping bad actors without slowing innovation.

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Heidi Health has quietly become one of the most widely used AI products in Australia, powering nearly two million clinical visits a week and transforming how doctors document care. In this re-release of the year’s most downloaded episode, Georgie sits down with Heidi cofounder and CEO Dr Tom Kelly to unpack how this runaway success was built, why clinicians trust it, and what the rise of medical agents means for the future of healthcare.

Tom shares the technical decisions that shaped Heidi’s accuracy advantage, including the surprising reason they ditched live transcription, how batch processing boosts note quality, and why a two percent gain in transcription accuracy can unlock a forty percent jump in adoption. He also breaks down what non technical founders absolutely must understand about LLMs, how he evaluates off the shelf models, and why compliance and regional infrastructure shape every product decision.

The conversation stretches far beyond medical notes. Tom dives into why rag is failing many real world use cases, how giant context windows could reshape patient care, and which AI startups may struggle as models get faster and cheaper. There are hot takes on personal branding, the attention hacking era, and the types of B2B SaaS companies he believes will not survive. Plus, Georgie and Tom play Late Stage Startup Bingo and share two very usable AI hacks.

This episode is a sharp, founder friendly deep dive into building AI products people rely on in the real world. A perfect refresher as we head into a huge 2026 for Australian AI.

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Amy Saper sits at the intersection of Silicon Valley’s AI boom, early-stage company building, and deep operator experience. Now a General Partner at Uncork Capital in San Francisco, she cut her teeth at Twitter, Uber, and Stripe before becoming one of the most sought-after seed investors backing the next generation of AI infrastructure and applications.

In this episode of In The Blink of AI, Georgie sits down with Amy for a wide-ranging conversation on how AI is rewriting early-stage investing, what real moats look like in an era of fast-moving models, and why she evaluates founders on slope, not pedigree.

Amy breaks down how she invests in AI-enabled apps and infra, why Gamma’s “overnight success” actually took five years, how non-technical investors can still win deeply technical deals, and what founders get wrong about market size. She also shares candid advice about hiring top AI talent (hint: bring your walking shoes), how to stand out as a seed-stage company, and why she’s bullish on cities and policies that embrace innovation.

This is an energising, thoughtful, and highly tactical episode for anyone building or backing AI in 2025.

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2025 was the year AI stopped being hype and started showing up in the real world, in our phones, our homes, our hospitals, and even our holidays. But with the pace of change accelerating, how do you separate the genuine life-changing tools from the noise?

To close out a huge year of In The Blink of AI, Georgie has hand-picked the top ten AI hacks shared by founders, CTOs, designers, researchers, and creative experimenters on the show so far. These are the tools and prompts they actually use every day, to travel smarter, remove mental load, make better decisions, get up to speed fast, and even check their own blind spots.

In this special holiday edition, you’ll learn how to turn an AI into your personal tour guide, save hours of context-setting with one drag-and-drop move, let your kids solve the dinner dilemma, challenge your thinking before you hit publish, and unlock the real power of voice mode for deeper, more personalised results. Whether you’re a total beginner or already living in the multi-agent future, these hacks are your shortcut to a smarter 2026.

Grab your phone, open your favourite LLM, and try these out for yourself.

00:00 — Why AI hacks matter more than ever

01:25 — Hack 1: A tour guide in your ear with voice mode (Dr Thomas Kelly)

03:59 — Hack 2: Poke, the life-organising bot hiding in iMessage (Maddie D Reese)

05:37 — Hack 3: Making personalised music with Suno

07:25 — Hack 4: Drag-and-drop context files to save hours (Isaac Peiris)

09:18 — Hack 5: AI-powered art hunts in Rome

11:46 — Hack 6: No more “What’s for dinner?” with fridge-vision prompts (Katherine Boiciuc)

14:49 — Hack 7: Why everyone is sleeping on voice for prompting (Mike Keating)

18:29 — Hack 8: Using AI to reveal your own blind spots (Sarah Kaur)

22:31 — Hack 9: The party-table prompt that gets personal fast (Kunal Gupta)

25:40 — Hack 10: Stress-testing technical architecture as a non-technical founder (Frank Greeff)

38:22 — What to expect from In The Blink of AI in 2026

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AI is lowering the barrier to software development faster than anyone expected, and GitHub’s APAC VP Sharryn Napier has a front row seat. In this conversation, she shares how she built a personal to-do list app in under an hour with GitHub Copilot and Spark, despite not writing code herself. Georgie and Sharryn explore why millions of new developers are joining the platform, how 80 percent of new signups use Copilot within their first week, and what the explosion of no-code experimentation means for both beginners and seasoned engineers.

They also unpack the chaos and opportunity of the multi-agent era, where GitHub’s new Agent HQ aims to keep developers productive, secure, and in control. From open source culture and the next wave of technical talent to enterprise adoption, risk, and the future of software creation, this episode offers an inside look at how AI is transforming who builds software and how it gets made.

Do you have a follow-up question about a topic discussed in today’s episode, or want a quick summary to reshare on LinkedIn? Just ask Top Road AI:

https://toproad.chat/in-the-blink-of-ai-with-sharryn-napier

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Artificial intelligence is reshaping everything from work to healthcare to the way we interact online, but it’s also exposing deep gender gaps that we can’t afford to ignore. At the eSafety Summit in Canberra, Georgie sits down with award-winning researcher and gender equality expert Dr Elise Stephenson for a live conversation on the uncomfortable truth behind AI’s gender problem.

Only 22% of the global AI workforce is women.

Only 2% of Australian startup funding goes to female founders.

And when generating images of British women, some AI models label them as models or prostitutes 30% of the time.

In this episode of In The Blink of AI, Georgie and Elise dig into how bias creeps into AI systems, who’s responsible, and what needs to change, from data collection to funding incentives to the way we teach young people about online safety. They also explore the surprising ways women are using AI, why representation matters at every layer of the stack, and what a truly gender-responsive AI future could look like.

This is one of the most important episodes we’ve made, equal parts confronting and constructive, and a must-listen for anyone who cares about building tech that works for everyone.

00:00 — Intro

02:31 — What AI actually is (and what it definitely is not)

04:00 — How AI is showing up in daily life: usage trends among women and men

06:40 — Physical AI, robotics, and Grace Brown’s loneliness-fighting invention

08:44 — The hidden gender power imbalances behind AI development

09:29 — A history lesson: how women were pushed out of computing

11:19 — Privacy, consent, and the fear of being recorded by your own doctor

12:35 — Deepfakes, blackmail, and why women are disproportionately targeted

14:45 — The “ghost workforce”: who actually labels the data AI learns from

15:26 — How unrepresentative datasets become harmful outcomes

16:35 — When Google Photos labeled a Black man as a gorilla

18:04 — The case for optimism: can AI reduce bias if we design it right?

21:32 — Who’s responsible for gender-safe AI: companies, funders, or users?

23:30 — The Inclusive Innovation Playbook: how to build fairer AI ecosystems

25:40 — Why regulating AI is so hard (and why countries disagree wildly)

27:23 — Dual-use tech, human oversight, and what companies like Unilever get right

29:03 — AI we should be excited about: healthcare, diagnostics, and robotics

31:39 — When an AI coworker goes rogue: who’s accountable?

32:56 — What a gender-responsive AI future actually looks like

34:08 — Top recommendations: feminist tech diplomacy and moving beyond critique

36:28 — Where to find Georgie and Elise

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Justin Tauber has spent nearly a decade inside one of the world’s biggest tech companies, first in strategic innovation, now leading Salesforce’s global work on ethical and human use of AI. With a background in cognitive science and design thinking, he’s become one of Australia’s most insightful voices on how technology and ethics can (and must) evolve together.

In this episode of In The Blink of AI, Georgie Healy sits down with Justin to unpack what “agentic AI” really means beyond the hype, and how enterprises can adopt it responsibly. Justin shares how scenario planning helps teams prepare for unpredictable futures, why prediction matters less than rehearsal, and how ethical constraints often spark the most original innovations.

They also dig into the growing problem of “shadow AI” inside companies, the trade-offs between startups and enterprises, and why Australia’s best AI opportunity might not be moving fastest, but safest.

If you’ve ever wondered what trust, transparency, and technology look like when they collide, this episode is your blueprint.

00:00 - Intro

05:20 - The rise of multimodal thinking

08:05 - Scenario planning and future rehearsal in AI

09:01 - Inside Salesforce: what an ethical AI team actually does

11:47 - Strategy vs policy: why most “AI strategies” aren’t strategic

13:00 - Safe hammers, safe chainsaws, and the real meaning of safety

15:45 - Trust = character + competence

17:15 - Prediction is less important than rehearsal

19:39 - Why ethics often drives innovation (bendy straws, accessibility, and more)

24:50 - Training ethical thinking like a muscle

26:01 - Shadow AI: the hidden risk inside every company

28:39 - Where bias really comes from, and how to design around it

32:12 - When to use generative vs deterministic AI

36:01 - The privacy paradox: consent, choice, and control

39:00 - Agentic AI explained through drum machines and creativity

46:13 - Startups vs enterprises: who’s taking bigger risks with AI

52:48 - Australia’s AI opportunity: becoming the world’s “safety lab”

🙋🏻‍♂️ Justin Tauber: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tauber/

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When Maddie Reese discovered AI tools in June, she’d never written a line of code. Six months later, she’d won multiple hackathons, built viral projects like Startup Obituary and Pet Hero Comics, and quit her job to go full-time as a vibe coder.

In this episode of In The Blink of AI, Georgie Healy sits down with Maddie to unpack what “vibe coding” actually is, and why joy might be the best productivity hack of all. From debugging API keys with ChatGPT to using Lovable, Cursor, and Replit to build entire web apps in hours, Maddie shares her exact workflow, her biggest “LLM gaslight” moment, and how she’s turning play into a career.

Expect practical tips for no-coders, hilarious guinea-pig side quests, and a refreshingly real take on the future of AI creativity.

00:00 – Welcome to In The Blink of AI with Georgie Healy

03:50 – AI Hack of the Week: Poke bot + Suno music app

08:37 – Maddie’s first project: cloning Google Drive in 4 hours

14:03 – Startup Obituary: a memorial for your failed startup 💀

15:35 – Debugging 101: what to do when API keys break everything

19:15 – Roast My App: Guinea Pig of the Day 🐹

22:24 – Using ChatGPT + Cursor + Lovable together

27:06 – Snog / Marry / Avoid: Lovable, Replit & Cursor

28:36 – Quitting her family business to go full-time in AI

30:46 – Getting through frustration (and proving ChatGPT wrong)

33:45 – Why you should hit “Publish” even if it’s not perfect

37:24 – How to recover when a prompt breaks your build

38:44 – Which tool to use: Lovable vs Cursor vs GitHub

39:33 – Is vibe coding dying or hotter than ever?

41:45 – What happens if vibe coding actually does die?

42:46 – Hot Takes 🔥 Non-engineers are the future of tech

49:10 – What’s next for Maddie Reese

🙋‍♀️ Maddie Reese: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maddiedreese

🪩 Maddie’s Projects: https://maddiedreese.com/

🐦 Twitter / X: https://x.com/maddiedreese

💻 YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@maddiedreese

✨ Lovable: https://www.lovable.dev

💬 Cursor: https://cursor.sh

💡 Replit: https://replit.com

🎵 Suno Music AI: https://www.suno.ai

📱 Poke by Interaction: https://poke.com/

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Before AI was cool, Dominick Ng was already building it. From a tiny country town in regional NSW to a PhD, a Fulbright Scholarship, and nine years at Google, Dom’s journey is the definition of technical brilliance meets humility. Today, he’s the Director of Engineering at Relevance AI, one of Australia’s fastest-growing agentic AI startups, backed by global investors and reshaping how teams build with large language models.

In this episode of In The Blink of AI, Georgie Healy sits down with Dom to talk about the real limits of agentic AI, why Australia needs to embrace experimentation, and how to build world-class engineering teams that can move fast without losing soul.

Dom explains how AI-assisted coding is changing what engineers can do in a weekend, what makes a great AI hire, and why “if you can’t onboard a person, you can’t onboard an agent.” He also breaks down why Meta’s hiring strategy looks so extreme, what China’s AI talent boom really means, and the cringe misconceptions about AI “making us lazy.”

If you’ve ever wanted to truly understand what’s behind the hype, this conversation will make you smarter (and probably a bit more patient with your next API error).

👨‍💻 Dominick Ng (LinkedIn): https://www.linkedin.com/in/dominickng/

🏗️ Relevance AI: https://www.relevanceai.com/

🧠 Vibe Sliding (Relevance AI feature): https://chat.relevanceai.com/

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When Mike Keating and Haziq Nordin founded Enhance Labs, they raised millions without a product, a pitch deck, or even a bank account. Backed by Blackbird and QIC, they became known for their unfiltered takes, chaotic energy, and refusal to ship something they didn’t believe in, even as the rest of the AI world raced to launch.

For months, they experimented in the shadows, building, pivoting, and learning why most AI startups were destined to fail. Then came the breakthrough: a way to let every user design their own personal internet, a “living interface” that could reshape how humans interact with software.

In this episode, Mike and Haziq share why they chose velocity and vibes over hype, how playfulness and curiosity became their competitive edge, and why founders must know when not to finish something. They break down what AI products will collapse by 2026, the open problems that still need a Nobel Prize, and why the next wave of innovation will come from the weird ones, the teams laughing the loudest while everyone else plays safe.

🙋‍♂️ Mike Keating: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikekeating/

🤖 Haziq Nordin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/haziq-nordin-1a6623107/

🚀 Enhance Labs: https://enhancelabs.ai/

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Laura McClure, Member of Parliament for the ACT Party in New Zealand, joins In the Blink of AI to unpack her viral deepfake experience, her groundbreaking member’s bill, and why tech regulation must protect victims without stifling innovation.

In a powerful conversation, Laura reveals how she created a deepfake of herself in minutes—and why it’s a wake-up call for policymakers worldwide. She shares insights on balancing tech freedoms with responsible safeguards, why regulation is about behaviour not banning tools, and how New Zealand’s slow policy-making could leave them lagging behind.

Laura also discusses how ACT’s libertarian values shape her pro-innovation, pro-startup stance and why deepfakes are a threat not just to teenagers, but to democracy itself. From the electricity grid challenges that could stall New Zealand’s AI adoption to the opportunities in agriculture and defence, this is a must-listen for founders, policymakers, and anyone passionate about the future of technology.

02:20 – Meet Laura McClure (ACT Party MP): From accidental politician to tech advocate

07:25 – Why Laura Entered Politics: Tackling New Zealand’s alarming government debt

09:13 – AI Hacks of the Week: Game-changing educational tech and viral LinkedIn strategies

13:24 – Going Viral with a Nude Deepfake: The shocking truth behind Laura’s Parliament demonstration

23:47 – Why Target Individuals, Not Tech: How Laura’s bill tackles deepfake abuse effectively

27:16 – Pro-Tech, Not Pro-Regulation: Laura’s vision to accelerate AI adoption in NZ and Australia

35:01 – The Infrastructure Challenge: What NZ must fix to power an AI-driven future

39:57 – Skills for the AI Era: Why critical thinking trumps rote learning

44:50 – Laura’s AI-Powered NZ: Her 5–10 year vision of an AI-enabled economy

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There’s a lot of AI slop out there, bland prompts, generic images, boring text that all blends together. But how do you stand out when everything looks the same?

In this episode of In The Blink of AI, Georgie Healy sits down with Christina Jones (aka CJ), Head of Design for Generative AI at Canva, for an unfiltered conversation about creativity, originality, and why taste is the new moat in AI.

CJ shares her journey from experimenting with a “cat editor” chatbot called Lemon to leading the design of Canva’s Magic Studio. She explains why AI should be a creative companion, not a micromanager, and how the “Steelman approach” can turn models into your best critic instead of your biggest cheerleader.

They cover why productivity isn’t the whole story, why creativity is especially essential during a cost-of-living crisis, and why observing the world around you is the fastest way to sharpen your originality. Plus: Georgie’s first ever AI rant, spicy takes on AI boyfriends, and the eternal love for the em-dash.

If you’ve ever worried that AI is dulling your creative edge, this episode is your permission slip to embrace originality, and maybe get a little emo about it.

00:00 – Welcome + Georgie’s husky “bug not a feature” voice

03:15 – CJ’s role as Head of Design for GenAI at Canva

05:10 – Why CJ stopped using AI to edit her writing

08:29 – AI Hack of the Week: The “Steelman” method

12:00 – Georgie’s first-ever AI rant: The guinea pig app that never launched

14:20 – Big picture: how to actually think about AI in your life

17:00 – How CJ uses AI to audit her calendar

19:14 – Beyond productivity: where AI really adds value

23:24 – Why creativity matters in a cost-of-living crisis

27:23 – Trends in AI art + training your own diffusion models

32:38 – Is taste the real differentiator in AI?

34:43 – How to grow original thought + creativity fast

38:44 – The ethics (and paradox) of AI companions

43:06 – Spotting “AI slop” in writing

45:03 – Do you need to be a software engineer to survive the AI era?

46:47 – Takeaways: observe, get out of your bubble, grow your creative muscle

🙋‍♀️ Christina (CJ) Jones: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisjonesish/

✍🏻 Jonesish Substack: https://jonesish.substack.com/about

🍎 Jonesish Website: https://www.jonesish.com/

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Replay Episode! When this conversation with Lorikeet co-founder Steve Hind first aired, the company had just raised $14M. Fast forward a few short months and they’ve doubled their valuation, become the hottest name in Australian AI, and poached some of the best engineers in the country. With so many new subscribers since then, we’re bringing this one back.

In this episode, Georgie Healy sits down with Steve to unpack how Lorikeet built Rae, an AI platform powering complex support for banks, healthcare, SaaS, and beyond. Steve explains why Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG) isn’t the silver bullet everyone thinks, what “agentic frameworks” really mean (and why it’s mostly marketing), and how starting with the hardest customer problems creates a defensible product.

They also dive into what makes AI support feel truly human, why empathy matters more than “personality,” and how to balance technical brilliance with marketing clarity. Along the way, Steve shares his favourite AI tools, what he looks for when hiring, and why founders should stop being insecure about not training their own models.

Whether you’re building in AI, hiring AI talent, or just curious about where the hype ends and real customer value begins—this replay is a masterclass in scaling smart AI support.

01:52 – What makes Lorikeet different from other AI support tools

02:49 – Why banks and healthcare companies need AI-driven customer support

09:00 – What is RAG, and why does it matter for AI-powered customer service?

14:09 – The biggest mistake AI chatbots make in customer support

16:26 – What does "agentic reasoning" really mean?

19:12 – The cost of running AI models and why RAG reduces compute power

27:46 – AI tools Steve uses every day (and his take on Perplexity and Replit)

30:36 – How to stand out when applying for an AI job

39:18 – What people get wrong about AGI and AI scaling laws

Founders scale faster on Deel. Set up payroll for any country in minutes, hire anyone anywhere, and get visas handled fast, so you stay focused on scaling. Deel takes care of onboarding, HR, IT, EOR, benefits, and compliance, so your team can grow without borders.

It’s why more than 40,000 fast-growing companies trust Deel to move fast.

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What if the next big unlock in payments wasn’t just faster checkouts, but bots buying on our behalf? In this episode of In the Blink of AI, Georgie Healy sits down with Karl Durrance, Managing Director for Australia and New Zealand at Stripe, to explore how AI is reshaping money movement at a global scale.

Karl reveals how Stripe is tackling fraud versus scams (and why scams are now the bigger threat), why AI startups are hitting revenue milestones at unprecedented speed, and what agentic commerce could mean for the way we shop. From buy now pay later’s misunderstood role in credit to why stablecoins may be the real future of internet-native money, Karl shares candid insights on where payments are heading next.

You’ll also hear why global expansion no longer requires a move to San Francisco, how single-use virtual cards could make agentic commerce safe, and why bots might soon handle life’s least joyful purchases, freeing us up for the ones that matter.

02:18 – Karl’s role at Stripe and the $1.4T payments scale

05:51 – Startups hitting $5M ARR in under a year

06:57 – AI Hacks: family holiday planning & cutting through bureaucracy

12:34 – Do Australian founders really need to move to SF?

17:39 – Explaining agentic commerce (AI buying for you)

20:34 – Shopping bots, travel assistants, and Amazon’s “Buy for Me”

22:25 – How Stripe protects against rogue AI agents

25:14 – Ticket scalpers, bots, and the arms race of fraud prevention

27:01 – Fraud vs. scams: what’s really costing the economy

31:51 – Why slowing payments down can actually prevent scams

37:21 – Spicy takes: BNPL, crypto & stablecoins

40:43 – BNPL vs. credit card debt — Karl’s contrarian view

41:24 – Stablecoins: solving volatility and internet money movement

45:51 – When stablecoins meet agentic commerce (next 5 years?)

47:41 – Stripe’s Sydney Tour: launches, thought leaders & what’s next

🦘 Stripe Tour Sydney: https://tour.stripeevent.com/sydney?rshow=sydney

🙋🏻‍♂️ Karl Durrance: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karldurrance/

💳 Stripe: https://stripe.com/au

Founders scale faster on Deel. Set up payroll for any country in minutes, hire anyone anywhere, and get visas handled fast, so you stay focused on scaling. Deel takes care of onboarding, HR, IT, EOR, benefits, and compliance, so your team can grow without borders.

It’s why more than 40,000 fast-growing companies trust Deel to move fast.

Visit https://www.deel.com/dayone

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What if we could simulate extreme weather before it strikes, and use AI to prevent billions of dollars in damage?

In this episode of In the Blink of AI, Georgie Healy sits down with Jack Curtis, Chief Commercial & Operations Officer at Neara, the startup building digital twins of critical infrastructure like electricity grids. Together, they unpack how AI is reshaping energy, data centers, and even Australia’s role in the global technology race.

From the true drivers of rising energy bills to why “climate tech is far from dead,” Jack shares a candid inside look at the intersection of AI, infrastructure, and policy. You’ll hear why digital twins are more than just a buzzword, what governments are getting right (and wrong) on AI, and how Australia can seize its moment to lead.

02:11 – Meet Jack Curtis and his role at Neara

03:00 – Digital twins: what they are and why they matter

04:45 – Using AI to model cyclone bombs and prevent grid damage

06:00 – AI Hack of the Week: Gong & NotebookLM for extracting insights

11:20 – Replacing manual, error-prone inspections with scalable modeling

14:50 – Why digital twins are critical in high-stakes infrastructure

17:45 – Adoption friction: humans vs. AI in enterprise contexts

18:40 – Breaking down the real drivers of spiralling electricity bills

22:20 – Can smart data centers help lower consumer energy costs?

25:10 – Data center siting: desert or grid-adjacent?

28:35 – Cooling and water trade-offs in data center economics

30:21 – Is Australian government AI adoption too slow?

35:30 – Can Australia win the global AI–data center “space race”?

37:20 – Why “waiting five years to see how AI plays out” is too risky

39:00 – Climate risk in the next decade: why infrastructure is already under stress

41:50 – Is climate tech still relevant or “not sexy”?

43:30 – Jack’s take on Scott Farquhar’s 5-point AI plan for Australia

49:55 – Rapid fire: digital apprenticeships, APIs, and easing AI into government workflows

50:30 – Jack’s sign-off: Neara is hiring ML engineers!

⛅️ Neara – https://neara.com/

🙋🏻‍♂️ Jack Curtis (LinkedIn) – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-curtis-399b182a/

💻 Gong – https://www.gong.io/

🎥 Andrej Karpathy: Neural Networks – Zero to Hero – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAqhIrjkxbuWI23v9cThsA9GvCAUhRvKZ

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It’s why more than 40,000 fast-growing companies trust Deel to move fast.

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At a Relevance AI community event, Georgie Healy speaks with Beth Lovell (FoBoH), Sam Garven (Hello Canopy) and Sally (King River Capital) about building AI agents that deliver real results. They share practical hacks, first-use cases, and lessons learned on data hygiene, onboarding and keeping humans in the loop. The panel also explores why women are adopting AI at lower rates and how non-engineers can use their unique strengths to create better tools.

01:05 – Beth’s journey from Woolies X to FoBoH: COVID supply chains, failed portals & why AI is different

04:07 – Sam’s origin story: unsafe workplaces, no safe way to speak up, and building Hello Canopy

06:15 – Sally’s investor lens: hundreds of agents tested, why she backs Relevance AI

07:32 – Favourite hacks you can steal: Replit, sticky notes → tables, system preferences for style

12:26 – First useful agents: outreach automation, policy-scraping, VC inbound triage

17:28 – What we wish we knew before building: expect errors, keep it simple, chain tasks, onboard like a teammate

20:07 – Designing for reality: data hygiene, human-in-the-loop, guardrails

22:27 – Dream agents: life OS, product-copy deployer, Excel-beating modeller

25:10 – Why women adopt AI less — and why that must change

30:32 – Strengths non-engineers should lean into: empathy, domain expertise, communication

33:27 – Career & workflow tips to start tomorrow: post weekly, try tools, ask for opportunities, get to “no” fast

👾 Relevance AI - https://relevanceai.com/

✨ FoBoH - https://www.foboh.com/

🙋‍♀️ Hello Canopy - https://www.hellocanopy.com/

🤴🏻 King River Capital - http://www.kingriver.co/

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In this crossover episode of First Cheque and In The Blink of AI, Cheryl Mack (Aussie Angels) and Maxine Minter (Co Ventures) team up with host Georgie Healy to unpack how investors are thinking about AI, beyond the hype. From pitch decks to product demos, they reveal the frameworks and gut checks they use to spot real value in AI startups, even when they’re not technical experts themselves.

You’ll also get a behind-the-scenes look at how Cheryl and Maxine are integrating AI into their own workflows, not just as investors, but as operators. From using ChatGPT to summarise founder meetings, to leveraging Prompt Cowboy and NotebookLM for due diligence and research prep, they walk through real examples of how AI is saving them time, sharpening decision-making, and helping them stay ahead in deal flow. And yes, we finally answer the question: what is an agent… and does anyone actually have one?

02:15 – Are Cheryl and Maxine AI skeptics or advocates?

06:00 – What's actually fueling the AI hype?

10:45 – Are we in a bubble—or just early in the cycle?

16:20 – Valuations, FOMO, and how investors are pricing AI

21:00 – What angel investors should look for in AI startups

27:30 – AI’s biggest red flag: When it all just sounds like magic

31:00 – Are agents real or is everyone faking it?

36:40 – AI in venture workflows: What Maxine actually automates

41:30 – The real power of personal brand in VC

44:50 – How Cheryl preps for founder calls with Google NotebookLM

49:00 – Weekly AI hacks: From flat lays to voice-mode strategy sessions

52:10 – Founder FOMO: Prompt Cowboy, Juno, and other hot startups

54:00 – The case for non-technical founders in AI

58:00 – Are one-person billion-dollar startups real?

02:15 – Are Cheryl and Maxine AI skeptics or advocates?

06:00 – What's actually fueling the AI hype?

10:45 – Are we in a bubble—or just early in the cycle?

16:20 – Valuations, FOMO, and how investors are pricing AI

21:00 – What angel investors should look for in AI startups

27:30 – AI’s biggest red flag: When it all just sounds like magic

31:00 – Are agents real or is everyone faking it?

36:40 – AI in venture workflows: What Maxine actually automates

41:30 – The real power of personal brand in VC

44:50 – How Cheryl preps for founder calls with Google NotebookLM

49:00 – Weekly AI hacks: From flat lays to voice-mode strategy sessions

52:10 – Founder FOMO: Prompt Cowboy, Juno, and other hot startups

54:00 – The case for non-technical founders in AI

58:00 – Are one-person billion-dollar startups real?

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Frank Greeff, the founder behind a $180M exit and the viral Founders Table series, is back, this time building Kinso, an AI messaging aggregation tool set to change how businesses communicate. Instead of retiring after one of Australia’s biggest tech acquisitions, Frank is diving back into the grind, sharing why momentum and purpose keep him building.

In this episode, Frank reveals the AI hacks that surprised even his engineers, why scrappy MVPs may not survive in today’s fast-moving AI wave, and how personal branding gives founders a hidden moat. Georgie and Frank also dig into what it takes to self-fund after top VCs said no, attracting A+ engineering talent in a competitive market, and why “taste” will define which AI products win.

Plus, Frank unpacks Meta’s $100M AI hires, the rise of deepfakes and how he protects his family, and answers listener questions on planning exits, building AI startups, and navigating AGI, UBI, and the future of work, all while playing a spicy rapid-fire round.

03:20 – What is Kinso and why aggregate business messaging

06:15 – Why Frank couldn’t retire after a $180M exit

10:45 – Hack of the Week: how non-technical founders can challenge engineers with AI

14:30 – Why Frank thinks MVPs can’t be scrappy anymore

18:00 – Building a founding team: attracting top AI engineering talent

23:30 – Meta’s $100M AI hires and how Kinso competes

26:40 – Why VCs rejected Kinso and why Frank’s self-funding

30:50 – Taste as a moat: what makes great AI products stand out

33:00 – How building an AI startup differs from RealBase

36:00 – Planning for exits: documentation and timing

40:30 – Deepfakes and Frank’s “secret password” strategy

43:20 – Rapid Fire: AGI, UBI, future of work, and more

🌐 Kinso – https://www.kinso.ai/

🔗 Frank Greeff on LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankgreeff

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Dr. Tom Kelly, founder of Heidi Health, is building one of Australia’s fastest-growing AI startups, and he’s doing it differently. In this episode, Tom reveals how Heidi Health transforms messy doctor-patient conversations into medical-grade notes in seconds, why batch transcription beats live, and why trust and time, not flashy features, are the future of healthcare AI.

Georgie and Tom unpack why most B2B SaaS startups may not survive, what not to do as a non-technical founder in AI, and how to build trust in high-stakes industries. They also explore personal branding, attention hacking, agents, and AI's limits in life-or-death decision-making.

Plus, Tom shares a killer AI travel hack and plays Late Stage Startup Bingo, guessing the hottest Aussie AI companies, from Relevance AI to Leonardo.

03:20 – What is Heidi Health and how does it work?

07:30 – Doctors spend half their time on documentation

10:45 – How many Australians have unknowingly used Heidi

12:15 – Does every AI founder need a personal brand?

14:20 – Attention hacking vs. building real trust

18:00 – AI Hack of the Week: voice agents as personal tour guides

20:00 – Gemini’s financial report guessing game

23:00 – Late Stage Startup Bingo: Aussie AI edition

28:30 – The batch processing decision that made Heidi better

31:10 – Why 2% better quality led to 40% more adoption

35:45 – How non-technical founders can get AI-literate fast

40:30 – Should you fine-tune models early on?

44:30 – RAG vs. unlimited context: what comes next

49:10 – The dream of lifelong medical memory

50:50 – Rapid Fire: B2B SaaS, AI agents & Aussie gov support

🌐 Heidi Health: https://heidihealth.com

🔗 Dr. Tom Kelly on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomkeykong/

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Harini Janakiraman and Shams Mosowi are the powerhouse co-founders behind BuildShip, a platform helping businesses automate complex backend and AI workflows in minutes. In this episode, they unpack what it really takes to build a fast-moving AI startup that developers not only use, but love.

Georgie dives into their founding story (from Antler hire to co-founder), their approach to vibe coding with tools like Claude and Cursor, and why product alone isn’t enough in today’s AI landscape. The trio also plays “hit or miss” with popular dev tools like Midjourney, Replit, Cursor, and GitHub Copilot, and they don’t hold back.

Harini and Shams share honest lessons on building for tech-literate users, hiring remotely, and turning branding into a technical moat. Plus: the viral power of great merch, why Shams temporarily moved to San Francisco, and how developers can earn exclusive BuildShip swag by shipping real tools.

02:43 – What makes a great startup partnership work

05:23 – Harini’s AI hack: voice-activated workflows for home and transport

07:21 – Shams’ AI hack: pitch deck evaluator and vibe coding with Claude + Cursor

09:40 – Comparing LLMs: ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude, Perplexity

14:11 – Tech hits & misses: Midjourney, Replit, Cursor, Copilot

21:44 – Where to prioritise capital pre-product-market-fit

24:49 – Is moving to San Francisco worth it for AI startups?

27:43 – Remote hiring lessons: trial projects, red flags, and finding fit

29:54 – Why brand is BuildShip’s moat (and how merch plays a role)

36:11 – How to earn BuildShip merch: hackathons and shipping tools

37:24 – Rapid fire: worst hires, dream users, and impossible customers

40:38 – Social media fails and that awkward “Hey Captain” email

42:07 – Final shoutouts: BuildShip tools, demo challenge, and how to get started

🛠️ Try BuildShip: https://www.buildship.com

✨ BuildShip Tools (vibe-code your backend): https://www.buildship.com/tools

📣 Harini on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/harinijanakiraman/

💻 Shams on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shams-mosowi/

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Isaac Peiris, founder of the growth agency Pistachio, has helped scale media brands like Mamamia and The Daily Aus through organic content and audience-first strategies. In this episode, he breaks down why brand matters more than ever for AI startups, the importance of knowing your audience, and how emotional connection beats transactional marketing.

Georgie and Isaac unpack famous brand fails like Google Glass and the Metaverse, and dissect Duolingo’s recent AI messaging stumble. They also highlight success stories like Waymo’s patient trust-building and Magic Brief’s smart organic content flywheel.

Isaac shares practical advice for AI founders on prioritising spend, validating through social engagement, and building your “thousand true fans.” Plus, hear his insights on AI as a creative accelerator, when it helps, and when it hurts.

06:20 – Who are Pistachio’s clients? Bridging knowing and doing social media

08:50 – The modern “business card”: personal brands, podcasts & newsletters

09:15 – Hack of the Week: context docs for better AI chats

12:45 – AI travel hack: Using Gemini & Google Maps in Rome

14:00 – Brand fails: Why Google Glass & Metaverse missed the mark

19:00 – Duolingo’s AI-first messaging misstep and audience insight

25:00 – Brand wins: Waymo’s slow, trust-first rollout of driverless cars

28:45 – Magic Brief’s Canva acquisition & organic content mastery

35:30 – AI brand strategy essentials for founders: audience + use case

40:00 – Where to invest early-stage funding: content & organic reach

45:20 – Isaac’s newsletter & the power of a thousand true fans

48:00 – Emotional storytelling beats transactional marketing: Wise example

50:30 – Aura Ring’s campaign flipping health marketing on its head

55:30 – Rapid fire: acquisitions, brand fails & AI’s creative impact

🙋 Isaac Peiris on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/isaacpeiris

📧 Free email course on organic content & brand building: https://brandchemistry.co/c/modern-media-masterclass

🎯 Pistachio: https://www.pistachio.so

📰 Magic Brief’s Internet Ads Club newsletter: https://internetadsclub.com/

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This week’s episode of In The Blink of AI is a special one, recorded live at UNSW in front of a sold-out audience. Georgie sits down with Andrew McCarthy, General Manager at Notion for Australia, New Zealand, and Asia, to explore how one of the world’s most loved productivity tools is quietly reshaping the way teams work with AI.

Andrew shares how Notion’s modular “building block” approach is changing the game for startups and enterprise alike, why simplifying workflows beats chasing the next shiny tool, and how students, founders, and even origami fans are building powerful systems without writing code.

They cover the anti-SaaS philosophy behind Notion’s design, what startups can learn from OpenAI’s use of AI for internal ops, and how AI can bridge the gap between newcomers and tenured employees, giving everyone superpowers at work.

Plus: Notion skincare routines, sports dreams, and a very wholesome story about digital journaling and self-love.

02:19 – Meet Andrew McCarthy, GM of Notion for ANZ & Asia

06:55 – Why Notion Chose Sydney as Its APAC HQ

09:42 – Notion’s Anti-SaaS Philosophy & Why It Matters

12:58 – The Real Notion Origin Story: From Near-Death to Kyoto

15:13 – The Power of UI/UX & the Race to the Application Layer

18:46 – What Notion AI Can Do, And What Users Are Loving

20:07 – Work as a Flow: The Case for Native AI Integration

20:20 – Why Templates Are a Hidden Superpower

21:38 – A Nepalese Student’s Side Hustle That Blew Andrew’s Mind

22:10 – From Hype to Value: How to Cut Through the AI Noise

24:36 – Most Unexpected Notion Use Case? Origami Knowledge Base

27:25 – Scaling Notion: Focus on What’s Already Working

28:48 – Enterprise AI Adoption (Hi, Toyota 👋)

30:44 – Should You Learn Python or Logic? Frameworks vs Tools

31:23 – Non-Tech Companies and AI: The Two-by-Two Matrix

34:01 – Rapid Fire: Sports Dreams, Dinner Guests & Parenting in the AI Era

38:02 – A Notion Page That Brought a Tear to His Eye

Andrew McCarthy on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/awmccarthy/

Notion’s Startup Program (6 Months Free) - https://www.notion.com/startups

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Aonghus Stevens, founder of Asseti, built his first drone business as a teenager and now leads one of Australia’s most fascinating AI infrastructure startups. In this episode, he shares why the real money in AI isn’t in the apps, but in the unsexy, invisible backend of enterprise and asset management.

Georgie and Aonghus unpack the surprising power of drones and defect detection, why asset degradation is a billion-dollar problem, and how Asseti is using AI to transform the way buildings, warehouses, and industrial sites are monitored and managed. They also dive into what makes a great VC partner, how to talk AI without sounding like a buzzword machine, and why drone delivery startups might be more hype than hope.

Plus, Aonghus names the one boring AI workflow that’s actually revolutionising how massive global clients manage their assets, and why most legacy systems are still stuck in 1995.

02:19 – Aonghus’ Origin Story: From Teen Drone Dealer to Founder

05:03 – Drones 101: Fixed Wing, Multirotor, and Enterprise Use Cases

08:13 – AI Hack of the Week: SQL Without Writing a Line of Code

11:29 – Why Drones Are Just the Beginning at Asseti

14:16 – Turning PDF Reports Into Live Asset Intelligence

16:20 – How AI, Imagery & Photogrammetry Power Asseti

18:41 – Startup Trade-Offs: When to Spend vs. Let It Burn

22:56 – The Broken Workflows in Asset Management

25:31 – Ideal Clients for Asseti & The Scale Problem in Inspections

30:14 – Lame or Lucrative: Drone Coffees, Google Wing, Flying Cars

36:17 – What Makes a Great VC (and Why Timing Is Everything)

40:15 – Form vs. Function, Flying Cars & Startups with Grit

42:45 – Where to Find Asseti and Why It’s a Quiet Game-Changer

🙋🏻‍♂️ Aonghus Stevens Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/ajbstevens/

👶 Aonghus Stevens on Forbes 30 Under 30 https://www.forbes.com/profile/aonghus-stevens/?ctpv=searchpage

🛩️ Asseti https://www.asseti.co/

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Sarah Kaur is not your typical technologist, and that’s the point. As Principal Design Strategist at Portable, she brings an artist’s eye and a community-first mindset to the world of AI and justice tech. In this episode, Sarah joins Georgie Healy to explore what it really means to build AI that works with people, not just on them.

They dive into the hidden biases in design, the pitfalls of “black box” systems, and the real cost of leaving communities out of the development process. From building tools in Australia’s family law system to dreaming up a sovereign digital twin that protects your data, Sarah’s approach to ethical innovation is bold, reflective, and deeply grounded in care.

Whether you’re designing for scale or simply wondering how AI can be made more equitable, this conversation will give you a new lens on what it means to build technology that respects, adapts, and listens.

03:20 – From Artist to AI Strategist: Sarah’s Unconventional Path

07:42 – What Human-Centred AI Actually Means

11:57 – Sitting in Ambiguity: The Black Box Camera Experiment

14:40 – Using ChatGPT to Surface Personal Bias

18:20 – What the Public Doesn’t Understand About AI Design

22:32 – Why Co-Design Matters More Than Ever

30:32 – Designing With Communities, Not Just for Them

35:40 – When Explainability Matters More Than Accuracy in AI

40:00 – Inside Portable’s AI Sprint Model

43:02 – Ethical AI vs. Imaginative AI

47:31 – Dream Tech: A Sovereign Digital Twin That Asks for Consent

👩‍💻 Sarah Kaur on LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahkaur/

🏢 Portable – https://www.portable.com.au/

📘 Amica (Family Law Tool) – https://www.amica.gov.au/

🛠️ AI Sprint Model by Portable – https://www.portable.com.au/articles/ai-design-sprints

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Laura McClure, Member of Parliament for the ACT Party in New Zealand, joins In the Blink of AI to unpack her viral deepfake experience, her groundbreaking member’s bill, and why tech regulation must protect victims without stifling innovation.

In a powerful conversation, Laura reveals how she created a deepfake of herself in minutes—and why it’s a wake-up call for policymakers worldwide. She shares insights on balancing tech freedoms with responsible safeguards, why regulation is about behaviour not banning tools, and how New Zealand’s slow policy-making could leave them lagging behind.

Laura also discusses how ACT’s libertarian values shape her pro-innovation, pro-startup stance and why deepfakes are a threat not just to teenagers, but to democracy itself. From the electricity grid challenges that could stall New Zealand’s AI adoption to the opportunities in agriculture and defence, this is a must-listen for founders, policymakers, and anyone passionate about the future of technology.

02:20 – Meet Laura McClure (ACT Party MP): From accidental politician to tech advocate

07:25 – Why Laura Entered Politics: Tackling New Zealand’s alarming government debt

09:13 – AI Hacks of the Week: Game-changing educational tech and viral LinkedIn strategies

13:24 – Going Viral with a Nude Deepfake: The shocking truth behind Laura’s Parliament demonstration

23:47 – Why Target Individuals, Not Tech: How Laura’s bill tackles deepfake abuse effectively

27:16 – Pro-Tech, Not Pro-Regulation: Laura’s vision to accelerate AI adoption in NZ and Australia

35:01 – The Infrastructure Challenge: What NZ must fix to power an AI-driven future

39:57 – Skills for the AI Era: Why critical thinking trumps rote learning

44:50 – Laura’s AI-Powered NZ: Her 5–10 year vision of an AI-enabled economy

👩‍💼 Laura McClure on LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7330443186185613312/

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